Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days
Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard
Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics. They'll get you closer
Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.
Speaker 1: This is cutting the Distance. Welcome back to the podcast. Everyone.
Speaker 1: It's November. It's prime ruts coming on for a lot
Speaker 1: of people. Deer hunting starting to kick off. Some of
Speaker 1: the best time of year to chase gear is now
Speaker 1: and I get really excited about that. Last week on
Speaker 1: the podcast, we were talking about gear and going over
Speaker 1: a little bit of gear. So now we're gonna switch
Speaker 1: gears and answer your questions on this week's mail sack.
Speaker 1: So far, I've already had a great season, been guiding
Speaker 1: l ot of l hunters. Last week we had five
Speaker 1: hunters in camp, killed five bull and one guy had
Speaker 1: a deer tag as well, So and a deer. You
Speaker 1: can't ask for anything better. Um, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've heard that shot. I've got some guys here sighting
Speaker 1: in their rifles, so if you hear some random shooting
Speaker 1: throughout this it's I'm not a war correspondent. I'm just
Speaker 1: a lowly hunting guide here and trying to record a
Speaker 1: podcast in between taking people out. So we're gonna jump
Speaker 1: into it right now. We've got questions that need answered,
Speaker 1: but first let's go to some testimonials. First message comes
Speaker 1: from Ryan. He says, hey, Man, wanted to say a
Speaker 1: quick thank you my whole life, I've had the itch
Speaker 1: to make the transition from white tail hunting on my
Speaker 1: family's farm to western big game hunting, but with not
Speaker 1: knowing anyone who does the seemingly daunting task of taking
Speaker 1: the first steps I always put off. However, since listening
Speaker 1: to your podcast, it has given me a truly incredible
Speaker 1: amount of information and has finally pushed me over the
Speaker 1: edge to start the journey. So I wanted to pass
Speaker 1: along encourage you because what you're doing is incredible. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that, Ryan, and thank you so much for all
Speaker 1: the other people that sent out messages um for encouragement
Speaker 1: and just saying how how much the podcasts helped you
Speaker 1: kind of get out there. Uh. Lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of success testimonials this week as well. This one comes
Speaker 1: from Bridger Smith. He says, listen to all your podcasts
Speaker 1: this summer and fall love the tactics called in my
Speaker 1: first archery bowl. Thanks for the inspiration and it's a
Speaker 1: great bowl. Good work, Bridger. This one's from Jeff Miller.
Speaker 1: He says I was chasing a larger buck in the
Speaker 1: area for a few weeks, but he did what big
Speaker 1: mealies do, disappear after nearly walking the dog into the ground.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help myself on this buck. Kept checking the
Speaker 1: pockets and it paid off. Thanks for the advice for
Speaker 1: staying persistent and thick, hard to hunt areas, Jeff with
Speaker 1: a good nice typical four by four meal dere Awesome work,
Speaker 1: Jeff is up. Yeah, Yeah, that's a great buck. Last
Speaker 1: testimonial comes from Brian so Well. He says, ended up
Speaker 1: taking this bull using some of your tactics on your podcast.
Speaker 1: This is a bull I've ever harvested General Tag in
Speaker 1: Montana and it is a giant six by six So Brian, congratulations.
Speaker 1: Listening to the podcast pays off. I can the proof
Speaker 1: is in the putting. I don't know if this is putting,
Speaker 1: but I've been getting message after message of guys sending
Speaker 1: me something saying this is the first elk I've taken.
Speaker 1: This is for the biggest bull I've taken using this tactic,
Speaker 1: so thank everyone out there. Thank you guys for sending
Speaker 1: in those testimonials. The pictures I really enjoy. I'm like
Speaker 1: to always read a few here. Um, and now we'll
Speaker 1: go into a few questions. Maybe some of their testimonies
Speaker 1: will pop up. I got these questions on just on
Speaker 1: my phone, so we'll start running through some of your
Speaker 1: questions here and we'll get into it. Since last week
Speaker 1: was a Gear episode, I did get quite a few
Speaker 1: questions on Gear, let's start with this. One's question comes
Speaker 1: from Dave. He says, hey, remy love the podcast, please
Speaker 1: do a moose hunting episode. I've got a lot of
Speaker 1: requests for that, so I'll probably be in the in
Speaker 1: the works. Here says my question for this week's Q
Speaker 1: and eight is how do you stay comfortable hiking in
Speaker 1: wet environments? If I'm marching up hill, I overheat and
Speaker 1: the rain gear makes it that much hotter. How do
Speaker 1: you keep cool and comfortable when it's too wet to
Speaker 1: take off outer layers? How do you layer to hunt
Speaker 1: in wet weather? Um? And he's say in PS. When
Speaker 1: I say wet, I think coastal blacktail moose swamps wet.
Speaker 1: So that's a great question. When I'm in like really
Speaker 1: wet country, I know it's gonna be wet from sun
Speaker 1: up till dark, or even if I know it's like
Speaker 1: hey it's it's probably not gonna let up, or it's
Speaker 1: I'm starting out maybe just rained all night, and I
Speaker 1: know it's gonna start out start out wet, and I
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be hiking. I actually, we'll just wear
Speaker 1: my rain gear and um, I won't put it over
Speaker 1: like pants or something like that. So I'll have my
Speaker 1: rain gear on and if it's cold, I'll through thermals
Speaker 1: and then rain gear. So just be like a bass
Speaker 1: layer shirt, rain jacket, and it'll be um, maybe thermal
Speaker 1: pants and rain pants. I've even just gone rain pants
Speaker 1: nothing else, um, well underwear and keep from the chaffin.
Speaker 1: But um, I found like, actually that's the best way
Speaker 1: because it kind of stays cool. Now, what I will
Speaker 1: do too, is like if it's not raining but it's
Speaker 1: just like wet country, I can then often vent my
Speaker 1: pants and a lot of times what I'll do is
Speaker 1: I'll wear like rain gear and then I'll put some
Speaker 1: gators over the top of that give it a little
Speaker 1: bit more protection keep it from dripping into my boots
Speaker 1: and other things. So I'll put my rain gear on
Speaker 1: and then my gators over the top of that, and
Speaker 1: then um, and then I can, you know, use the
Speaker 1: zips to regulate my body temperature. So even when I've
Speaker 1: got just very light and I'm hiking, I'll start to
Speaker 1: unzip the jacket if it's not raining, if it's just
Speaker 1: like wet country where everything kind of seems wet now
Speaker 1: when it's raining and everything else, the only way your
Speaker 1: rain gear is gonna work is if it's tight. So
Speaker 1: I always one thing to think about. Just added info
Speaker 1: here is when you've got your rain gear on, use
Speaker 1: your hood. Like if the hood's not up, the rain
Speaker 1: gear is not gonna work if your wrists straps aren't,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I tighten it around my wrists as well,
Speaker 1: so the water doesn't run down, and then you know,
Speaker 1: don't obviously keep your hands down or what ever in
Speaker 1: your pockets. One thing I also don't like to do
Speaker 1: in wet weather. One little secret I've got is I'll
Speaker 1: put handwarmers in my pocket and then I won't wear
Speaker 1: gloves because when my hands get wet, then the gloves
Speaker 1: get wet, and I just would rather just in wet
Speaker 1: weather put my hands in my pockets to warm them
Speaker 1: up with those handwarmers and then keep them from my
Speaker 1: gloves getting soaked. But the layering system that I do
Speaker 1: in really wet country is I just go straight up
Speaker 1: rain gear. It's waterproof, it's breathable, and the breathing works
Speaker 1: a lot better when you don't have two layers on
Speaker 1: underneath it. So I just go base layer or light
Speaker 1: layer underneath or no layer underneath, and then rain gear,
Speaker 1: and if I get cold, they just start moving. Um.
Speaker 1: It feels pretty good. I've been in some you know,
Speaker 1: even when it's a little bit warmer out walking through
Speaker 1: that cool wet water with just the rain gear on,
Speaker 1: it almost feels it's just kind of like feels pretty cool,
Speaker 1: especially if you don't have base layer on underneath it.
Speaker 1: So it just goes straight. Rain gear keeps your base dry.
Speaker 1: And then if I've got um, if it dries out
Speaker 1: or whatever, I could have my other stuff in my
Speaker 1: pack and then just swap it on layer change it out.
Speaker 1: So once it gets dry and say it's not raining
Speaker 1: room and it dries out during the daytime, then I'll
Speaker 1: swap out. If I need a jacket, then I'll swap
Speaker 1: out the rain jacket for say, like a soft shell jacket.
Speaker 1: And that's the way that I like to layer in
Speaker 1: really wet places. But like I said on the Gear podcast,
Speaker 1: you know start out cool. This is a good one.
Speaker 1: This one comes from Ricardo. He says, hello, Remy, I
Speaker 1: just listened to your latest podcast about rule number one
Speaker 1: don't leave anything on the ground, and I laughed hysterically.
Speaker 1: I'm currently driving to the bow shop because I left
Speaker 1: my bow on the ground and ran over my bow
Speaker 1: with my truck. That tip hit my soul. Have a
Speaker 1: great day. Thanks. That's um, that's very unfortunate. I I
Speaker 1: have once run over a spotting scope and I know
Speaker 1: I feel the pain man And it was on a
Speaker 1: CU's deer hunt and a long way away from anywhere,
Speaker 1: and I actually the spotting scope still operated, but the
Speaker 1: tripod was destroyed. So um, and that still wouldn't hit
Speaker 1: as hard as a boss Man bummer. But also a
Speaker 1: testimonial of don't leave stuff on the ground rule number one. Alright,
Speaker 1: This next question says, hey, Remy, love the content. When's
Speaker 1: that ELK video coming out on the big end. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was gonna take uh my little brother in law
Speaker 1: on a mule deer hunt. I have a two two
Speaker 1: three he can use with sixty four green soft tips.
Speaker 1: Would that be reasonable to shoot one within a hundred yards?
Speaker 1: If so, what shot would you take? High shoulder or
Speaker 1: just the sweet vital shot. That's a great question. So
Speaker 1: the first part the big Elk video is actually good timing.
Speaker 1: Is actually out today, so you can go over to
Speaker 1: uh you can find it through go on my Instagram page.
Speaker 1: I've got a link to it there, or the Made
Speaker 1: with Meat YouTube channel. It'll be there, and then I
Speaker 1: will also on my YouTube channel put it on a playlist,
Speaker 1: so if you follow my YouTube channel, you can go
Speaker 1: there and it'll make it easy to find, you know,
Speaker 1: play list there that big that my largest bull um
Speaker 1: got the video edit done. It's ready and I think
Speaker 1: it turned out pretty dang sweet. So hopefully everyone goes
Speaker 1: over there and checks that out. Okay, so now on
Speaker 1: to hunting with the two two three sixty four green
Speaker 1: bullets soft tip. You know, I'm a big proponent of
Speaker 1: not overgunning people that are specially smaller. So he says, here,
Speaker 1: your little brother in law um, the two two three. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can absolutely kill a meal deer with the two
Speaker 1: two three. How do I know because in New Zealand
Speaker 1: I have shot red deer which are about the size
Speaker 1: of elk with two two three's. Um. We actually used
Speaker 1: to meet shoot with them as well, like shooting commercial
Speaker 1: meat shooting. But on that we would do all head shots. Um. However,
Speaker 1: I have seen like taking kids or whatever and taking
Speaker 1: a pretty large animals with triple two's two two three,
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, absolutely possible. I would I would definitely
Speaker 1: probably say stay away from the shoulder because I've found
Speaker 1: animals that we've taken later on with small caliber bullets
Speaker 1: in the shoulder. So I would just go with the
Speaker 1: sweet vital shot. Um. You know, it's a good bonded
Speaker 1: type bullet would be best. I would say, there there
Speaker 1: is a lot of like you know in two three
Speaker 1: you can get some really like more frangible rounds. I
Speaker 1: would definitely get a more hunting built round for it. Uh,
Speaker 1: and that just you know, just kind of think about
Speaker 1: that when you're looking at it. There's there is a
Speaker 1: difference in the price of the box. UM, but yep,
Speaker 1: a good soft point um would probably work fine. Just
Speaker 1: something that it depends where you're at, but UM, you
Speaker 1: know if you can use you know, a bonded soft
Speaker 1: point or something like that, UM, get one that's designed
Speaker 1: for hunting, and it will absolutely be plenty of gun
Speaker 1: and you won't overgun your brother in law. So I
Speaker 1: think that that's a great option and go for it.
Speaker 1: Because she says, Hey, Rebby, in regards to late season
Speaker 1: spot and stalking me with your hunt, what do you
Speaker 1: do when the bucks spend very little time in one spot,
Speaker 1: typically either chasing a dough uh that's hot or on
Speaker 1: a dos centrail, particularly in those spots where the stock
Speaker 1: can be long and arduous. Tim from BC, that's a
Speaker 1: great question. So many of the places you're hunting, if
Speaker 1: you if you can hunt that late rut season, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to pre rut, bucks are cruising and
Speaker 1: you might see a buck three four miles away and
Speaker 1: he's just moving. He's on that trail, or like you said,
Speaker 1: he gets into a zone where he gets a hot
Speaker 1: dough and it's it's cruise city. In those kind of scenarios,
Speaker 1: it can be really hard to get on the deer
Speaker 1: that you're trying to watch. So I do a couple
Speaker 1: of different things. I mean, one thing is you can
Speaker 1: keep watching and see where he goes. Or you can say, okay,
Speaker 1: how can I cut this deer off and get into
Speaker 1: that particular zone. Um, there is kind of this thought
Speaker 1: of you might not catch that buck that you see. Uh,
Speaker 1: And so what I would like to do is like,
Speaker 1: if I'm seeing a lot of crew sing bucks, I
Speaker 1: almost would put myself into a position where they tend
Speaker 1: to be cruising through. More often than not, you'll notice,
Speaker 1: like there might be a place in the mountain where
Speaker 1: you're looking and watching over and you can see all
Speaker 1: this country, which is really good for spotting, but it's
Speaker 1: not good for putting yourself into a position for that stock. Now,
Speaker 1: I tend to prefer to cover more country with my eyes,
Speaker 1: So I probably picked that spot where hey, I'm watching
Speaker 1: cruising deer, but I'm gonna pick that spot with the
Speaker 1: hopes that I'm catching that deer that can that will stop.
Speaker 1: I had a similar experience with this just a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago. Spotted a good buck. I was like,
Speaker 1: he's cruising. But then I looked over and saw a
Speaker 1: pocket of doze. So I just watched. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm just gonna go. You know, if if
Speaker 1: I was I actually didn't have a tag, I was
Speaker 1: just scouting for clients. But it's like, all right, if
Speaker 1: I had a tag, I would just go to that
Speaker 1: pocket and see what happened. And sure enough, later on
Speaker 1: that buck hit that pocket and started doing is like
Speaker 1: hot laps around those doughs checking them. Also, if I
Speaker 1: would have made that stock and moved of that pocket,
Speaker 1: the wind was good. You know, I've seen those doughs
Speaker 1: downwind of him and knew that he's cruising and he's
Speaker 1: gonna stop when he sees those dough So understanding where
Speaker 1: those dough pockets are can help you pinpoint a deer
Speaker 1: that's gonna slow down. Um. That's one way to think
Speaker 1: about it. Another way is, um, you know, if you've
Speaker 1: got like a buck that's chasing a hot dough, kind
Speaker 1: of going back to that, Like if he runs that
Speaker 1: hot dough off, sometimes they'll go for miles, but many
Speaker 1: times that dough is gonna try everything she can to
Speaker 1: kind of get back to that group, and so kind
Speaker 1: of getting back once again, kind of stalking the does
Speaker 1: and then using that as the magnet to attract the
Speaker 1: bucks might be your best bet. Another option is just
Speaker 1: watching that deer. Many times I'll see a cruising buck
Speaker 1: and he'll be cruising, cruising, cruising, like seems like he
Speaker 1: doesn't stop, and then he hits up an area and
Speaker 1: he just stands there for thirty minutes or whatever. Once
Speaker 1: that deer hits that standing point, you might think, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I can make my move. So it can be difficult,
Speaker 1: but there are things that kind of slow them down,
Speaker 1: and so I try to focus on those things and
Speaker 1: then make my move based on that. Otherwise I kind
Speaker 1: of set up and do my glassing in an area
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, this is a high concentration of
Speaker 1: where they might be moving. I'm looking over a lot
Speaker 1: of country, but when you see one here, you can
Speaker 1: make a quick move. And there's been many times during
Speaker 1: the rut that my stock is not a slow stock.
Speaker 1: It is an absolute all out run and uh. And
Speaker 1: then just trying to get set up with rifle hunt,
Speaker 1: you know, get set up maybe where I still got
Speaker 1: a good view, but I like shooting across the canyon
Speaker 1: or something like that. So that's kind of your options.
Speaker 1: Questions comes from Kent. He says, sorry if you stay
Speaker 1: this before in your podcast, But being from Texas, I've
Speaker 1: never had the chance to do a true backcountry hunt
Speaker 1: and want to next season for ELK. I know that
Speaker 1: doing public land requires getting back further and farther than usual.
Speaker 1: What would you recommend to make it easier, especially with
Speaker 1: getting a bull out, taking two friends, or trying to
Speaker 1: find a location allows something like an e bike. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean, here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even consider those things mutually exclusive. I do when
Speaker 1: I hunt elk. I never Maybe this is the wrong
Speaker 1: way to think about, because I've done it a lot,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know I've probably packed out. I
Speaker 1: couldn't even count the amount of elk that I've packed
Speaker 1: out or animals um in the thousands. And I have
Speaker 1: this philosophy that it's like I never think about how
Speaker 1: I mean, not that you shouldn't be prepared for it,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I never choose a place worried about
Speaker 1: the pack out. I just hunt and then get the
Speaker 1: animal out afterwards. And it's just always a pain in
Speaker 1: the ask, but it's just part of it, you know.
Speaker 1: So one thing that I would say is like it's
Speaker 1: it's a good idea to be prepared to pack it out,
Speaker 1: and especially on your first one, having some people with
Speaker 1: you is never a bad thing, I would say if
Speaker 1: it's your first trip, either way, the having a couple
Speaker 1: of extra people is going to make it a lot easier.
Speaker 1: Like you can you can share in the toil, you
Speaker 1: can share in the experience. UM absolutely take to people
Speaker 1: with you. Now, I'm saying that to say that having
Speaker 1: an hunting an area where it's like, hey, I've I've
Speaker 1: got the option to take an e bike in or
Speaker 1: whatever can be part of your hunt plan that doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to involved like be saying well, I'm either
Speaker 1: going to take the e bike or I'm going to
Speaker 1: take two friends. You can do both. But if you
Speaker 1: have the two people, no matter where you get the elk,
Speaker 1: you've got help packing it out so you can go
Speaker 1: back as far and then you can hunt with that
Speaker 1: mindset of not worrying about how I'm going to get
Speaker 1: it out, but hunt and then get it out. And
Speaker 1: you just got to know that that work is going
Speaker 1: to be involved. Now, I know people are probably saying like, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta make sure you can't shoot something where you
Speaker 1: can't get it out. That's absolutely true, so you wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to go beyond your limits. But having those two
Speaker 1: people you won't have to think about it, is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you can just go out and hunt
Speaker 1: and you know that you'll be able to get it back.
Speaker 1: And so I like that option. I also like the
Speaker 1: idea of like, hey, it's never a bad idea to
Speaker 1: you know, find find other ways to access areas. So
Speaker 1: if it's you know, hiking in on a logging road
Speaker 1: where you can go like, okay, I can get in
Speaker 1: here and then access the ass Arian and bush whack
Speaker 1: up here. Great. You know, if you can use an
Speaker 1: e bike greade like that part doesn't matter. That's just
Speaker 1: more of like the hunt strategy and planning, like how
Speaker 1: you're going to get into the area, areas you're going
Speaker 1: to look into access. But if it's your first trip,
Speaker 1: I would just say take a couple of guys with you,
Speaker 1: have a good time. It's a little bit safer that way,
Speaker 1: like you can you know, it might keep you a
Speaker 1: more motivated to hunt harder if it's the guys with
Speaker 1: kind of like a like mindset, and you know, if
Speaker 1: everybody's got a tag to it might give you more
Speaker 1: opportunity to experience like a successful harvest and a pack out.
Speaker 1: If if everybody's got tags and maybe they split up,
Speaker 1: and then you come back to camp and you're however
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it. It's never a bad thing to have.
Speaker 1: Um some help. I remember many years ago I was
Speaker 1: doing a solo hunt and then my buddy Mike help
Speaker 1: me pack out, and I said, and I think one
Speaker 1: thing that I said, and that just rings true, and
Speaker 1: pretty much every hunt is, even a solo hunter makes
Speaker 1: a great team packer, Like, no matter what, if you
Speaker 1: can get help packing out, take it, it's great. Question
Speaker 1: comes from Tom says, Hey, I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: your podcast, love your content and how you break everything down.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on bipods, shooting sticks or tripods?
Speaker 1: Also doing my first Elate season Blacktail hunt in November
Speaker 1: in Washington, any tips or suggestions? So the first part, um,
Speaker 1: I think all three have their place in some way
Speaker 1: or another when it comes to shooting. I always like
Speaker 1: to be field ready, and I think field ready involves
Speaker 1: being able to get steady on whatever is around. The
Speaker 1: first thing that I always try to get steady on
Speaker 1: is my pack, laying down using my pack. Uh. If
Speaker 1: you have a bipod that works, great, you just need
Speaker 1: to be no matter which one you use, practice with
Speaker 1: them all. If you're if it's gonna be something you're
Speaker 1: gonna hunt with, practice with it, and not necessarily just
Speaker 1: saying like practice shooting with it at the range. That's
Speaker 1: kind of I mean, that's just like part of it.
Speaker 1: But I would say that's the smallest part I would
Speaker 1: I would much rather prefer to see people like getting
Speaker 1: out hiking around with whatever they're gonna use, and then
Speaker 1: you don't even have to shoot. Maybe it's dry fire
Speaker 1: practice where you just get set up and pick something
Speaker 1: like okay, you don't get on that fast, and see
Speaker 1: which one works for you. In a lot of situations,
Speaker 1: bipods are very difficult to get steady with unless it's
Speaker 1: the right situation, I would say, out of all of them,
Speaker 1: but I throw iPod on many times. And when you
Speaker 1: use a bipod and have the right set set up,
Speaker 1: it's probably the most steady thing you can get. Now,
Speaker 1: if you have shooting sticks, it can get you a
Speaker 1: little bit higher up so you can get above some
Speaker 1: of the brush and grass. It's not going to be
Speaker 1: a steady as being proned out on your packer on
Speaker 1: the bipod. But um, shooting sticks kind of give you
Speaker 1: that upper hand of still being steady while maybe being
Speaker 1: more advantageous to different, uh say, hunting scenarios I like
Speaker 1: as opposed to shooting sticks. I actually use my treking polls.
Speaker 1: I talked about this in the last one. But use
Speaker 1: those treking polls as a shooting sticks that works really
Speaker 1: well or just I mean, I do have a para
Speaker 1: shooting sticks that I bring along as well. And then tripods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like getting steady on anything you've got. So if
Speaker 1: you've already got a tripod, there, practice getting steady on it.
Speaker 1: The way that I use a tripod. I'll extend the legs,
Speaker 1: put the like spotting scope down, and then set the
Speaker 1: gun in that kind of arm between the spotting scope
Speaker 1: and the tripod. The worst part about the tripod is
Speaker 1: it's not super adjustable. Um. So I would say between
Speaker 1: all three of those, the one if I was to
Speaker 1: carry one, I would say carry shooting sticks because I
Speaker 1: can find ways to get steady with the other without
Speaker 1: the other two by using my pack or using the
Speaker 1: tripod that I have. But um, shooting sticks kind of
Speaker 1: give you that kind of in between that's a lot
Speaker 1: faster movement. So that's why I think on that when
Speaker 1: it comes to late season, uh, black tail tips. You know,
Speaker 1: I guess it depends if you're hunting more of that
Speaker 1: jungle type country temperate rainforest type stuff, or if you're hunting,
Speaker 1: you know, more open stuff. But late season is is
Speaker 1: kind of like it's very similar to mule deer, and
Speaker 1: I will also say very similar to white tails. Um
Speaker 1: black tails are kind of that perfect in between where
Speaker 1: they have those smaller home ranges, so you can pattern them.
Speaker 1: You can use trail like you can use um waiting
Speaker 1: tactics like tree stands and other things on trails in
Speaker 1: that thick country. But one thing you're gonna want to
Speaker 1: focus on is definitely focused on those does. Bucks will
Speaker 1: be more at to cruising later in the season, and
Speaker 1: that's gonna be your best time to find deer moving around,
Speaker 1: So don't forget to glass those clear cuts, those openings
Speaker 1: where you can actually see and then finding that that
Speaker 1: good sign in those trails. Probably i'd focus on like
Speaker 1: places that deer will cruise, like actually like finger ridges
Speaker 1: and those ridges in the timber where it's a lot
Speaker 1: easier for them to walk around and move fast, just
Speaker 1: like anything. You know, if if you think of a
Speaker 1: buck's cruising looking for does he's walking along trying to
Speaker 1: send the dough and he's going to take the easiest path.
Speaker 1: You know, there's times where they might be in that
Speaker 1: thicker stuff. But if they're moving around, find those trails
Speaker 1: that are easy to move on where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is a natural way that I would move, um.
Speaker 1: And then where it's like they can cover a lot
Speaker 1: of country and be moving for doughs and then kind
Speaker 1: of hunt still hunt do however, whatever your tactical hunting is,
Speaker 1: bush stocking, sitting, waiting, whatever, um, based on those areas
Speaker 1: where they're going to be moving more often. This question
Speaker 1: comes from Ivan. He says, Hey, there, I'm about to
Speaker 1: go on a mule deer trip up here in BC.
Speaker 1: What awesome coincidence. You recently did some podcasts on the topic.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you have any recommendations on calls to use.
Speaker 1: Thanks when it comes to deer calls. Lately, I've been
Speaker 1: using the Rocky Mountain game calls grunt Tube. It's got
Speaker 1: like this slider bar on it and so I find
Speaker 1: it works better than the rest everything else I've tried,
Speaker 1: because some of them, like the other ones i've used,
Speaker 1: the kind of stick when it's cold and freeze, especially
Speaker 1: if you're like up in BC or Northern Montana or whatever. Um,
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of those calls kind of freeze
Speaker 1: up on you. And I like this slider bar because
Speaker 1: I can change the tone so I can go like
Speaker 1: that more deep like deep grunt, or I can even
Speaker 1: just do like an estrus bleat, like a kind of sound. Um.
Speaker 1: With that same call, it's got like a great tone,
Speaker 1: and I think it it carries really well. I use
Speaker 1: that same call for white tails meal deer. Um. I've
Speaker 1: actually even used it for big horn sheep. So I
Speaker 1: I really like that call in particular. Um, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you can find it online. I can't. I wish I
Speaker 1: knew the name of it. But it's got like this
Speaker 1: little on it, and it somehow got like some little
Speaker 1: slighter thing that's kind of I guess like a trombone slider,
Speaker 1: you know, But it's built into it so it changes,
Speaker 1: it puts different pressure on the red inside the call.
Speaker 1: That that's the one that I recommend and then when
Speaker 1: it comes to rattling, I mean just anything um I've used.
Speaker 1: I like to use like big mellier antlers. Sometimes sometimes
Speaker 1: I use just shoulder blades that I've taken off of
Speaker 1: something dried out. Sometimes I use like a rattling bag
Speaker 1: or whatever, just something that's easy. I found that the
Speaker 1: like plastic rattling antlers, uh, don't really work that well
Speaker 1: in the cold. Like I've had them break a lot.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because I I tend like they're outside a
Speaker 1: lot or something. I don't know. I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of those break um, so I've kind of got away
Speaker 1: from those. But um, any kind of like small rattling
Speaker 1: back there's like this shoot, It's like this little rattling
Speaker 1: box that I've used worked, okay. Seems like just sometimes
Speaker 1: bringing a set of meal deer sheds seems to be
Speaker 1: like the best or deer sheds for white tails amuled there?
Speaker 1: All right? This question comes from Scott says here, emmy,
Speaker 1: just listen to your latest podcast about gear. I was
Speaker 1: surprised to hear you like the smaller spotting scope. Me
Speaker 1: and my buddies utilize a pair of ten by fourty
Speaker 1: two bonos and twenty five or thirty magnification rifle scope
Speaker 1: depending on setup, and bring a sixty five millimeter spotter.
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on that setup? So here's my thought
Speaker 1: on that. The first one, the ten by fourty two
Speaker 1: by nos awesome, the sixty five millimeter spotter great, the
Speaker 1: twenty to thirty magnification rifle scope. I would never use
Speaker 1: a rifle scope for spotting glass, NG verifying anything. Um.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's good practice. And I mean
Speaker 1: that's and I and I also don't think it's like
Speaker 1: a very great tool for verification. Like, yeah, you get
Speaker 1: a little bit more magnification whatever, but you're just better
Speaker 1: off like using your binoculars and your spotting scope. UM.
Speaker 1: I have been in the field and like had people
Speaker 1: like walked up on people that don't even have binoculars
Speaker 1: and they just use their rifle scope to verify something.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely unacceptable. I mean, I'm not saying that that's
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Maybe you're like, oh, it's a deer,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's something you can legally shoot out, but
Speaker 1: I am so anal about gun safety that that gun,
Speaker 1: whether unloaded, whether the bolts out, whether it's anything, should
Speaker 1: never be pointed at anything that you don't intend to
Speaker 1: shoot at any time ever. And so like there's been
Speaker 1: times where I've been walking down the trail someone sees
Speaker 1: movement and I've they've got their gun point at me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that freaks me out and I get
Speaker 1: pretty piste off and I and I let them know
Speaker 1: about it. Um. I've seen people glassing other people with
Speaker 1: rifles across the ridge. You're glassing, you know, like using
Speaker 1: rifles to to look at things, And it's like that
Speaker 1: should never be a way that you do anything ever. Um,
Speaker 1: And I think that just bears repeating of Like I mean,
Speaker 1: whether that's how you use it or not doesn't really matter,
Speaker 1: or I just think it's like something good to talk about. Um,
Speaker 1: That we have rifle scopes for shooting the gun and
Speaker 1: that's what it should be for. We have binoculars for
Speaker 1: glassing and finding animals. We have a spotting scope to
Speaker 1: zoom in and verify. So if you've got the spotting scope,
Speaker 1: just use that and just use the binoculars now. UM,
Speaker 1: I would much rather carry the weight of a large
Speaker 1: spotting scope than use plan on using a rifle scope
Speaker 1: to check something. So that's my thought. On that. I
Speaker 1: think the binoculars are great. I think the spotting scope
Speaker 1: is good. Um, and it's also you know, having that
Speaker 1: spotting scope for a little bit extra verifications awesome. Now,
Speaker 1: if it's something you're lining up to shoot and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a good buck, I've got a tag for it,
Speaker 1: I might want to shoot it, and you're using the
Speaker 1: rifle scope to check it out, see if you get
Speaker 1: ready to get your shot. Whatever, That's all cool, but
Speaker 1: never use the you know you never I never think
Speaker 1: of using a scope as a more verification on something
Speaker 1: because we have better tools for that. This question says, hey,
Speaker 1: big fan of your work Slash podcast. I like your
Speaker 1: transparency and drive. I've been hunting cues white tail in
Speaker 1: Arizona for about ten years. I've got three smaller ones,
Speaker 1: but can't get over the hump and kill a nice wallinger.
Speaker 1: I'm not even archery hunting, just can't find the big bucks.
Speaker 1: I hunt October, which is not the most ideal time.
Speaker 1: No ruts slash can be hot. I hunted harder last
Speaker 1: week than I ever have tried to find isolated areas
Speaker 1: of food. Water shelter than glass and makes stealthy approaches
Speaker 1: into high probability areas by incorporating wind sound site. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what I'm doing wrong. I used told by
Speaker 1: fifty vipers. Is the buy not too cheap to hunt effectively?
Speaker 1: I spot deer at a thousand yards, but couldn't tell
Speaker 1: if they were bucks. Granted, I'm sure if it was
Speaker 1: a monster buck I probably would have noticed. Anyways, I'm
Speaker 1: not pure trophy hunter. I just like the meat, but
Speaker 1: at some point would really like to get on a
Speaker 1: big public land cues. Thanks for your time, Danny. That's
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I do love hunting the cues bucks.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, so we were just actually
Speaker 1: talking about spotting scopes. I on accused deer hunt. That's
Speaker 1: a that's a hunt that I take a good spotting
Speaker 1: scope on. UM. I glass with it, I get, I
Speaker 1: use it for verification. UM. You know, seeing those deer
Speaker 1: two thousand yards, you've got to be able to zoom
Speaker 1: in tight because during that October season, those bucks are
Speaker 1: not moving and uh, you know what what you see
Speaker 1: Sometimes you've got to be able to get really tight
Speaker 1: in that, like cover in that where they're hanging out
Speaker 1: in those holes that they live in and really really
Speaker 1: pick it apart, like inch by inch, because I've seen
Speaker 1: the best bucks I see that time of year. It's um,
Speaker 1: it's really really picking the country apart and being able
Speaker 1: to zoom and say, Okay, that's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: That's that's a good buck. Sometimes even just zooming in
Speaker 1: on something that might not be a good buck and
Speaker 1: you'll find a good buck. Now. I will also say
Speaker 1: in full transparency, if you want to kill a big
Speaker 1: cus dear during that October timeframe, but you're only I
Speaker 1: guess quote unquote looking for them in October, then you're
Speaker 1: doing yourself in justice. The way that you would kill
Speaker 1: a big cous deer is by putting in more time
Speaker 1: outside of that hardest time to find them. So if
Speaker 1: you're if you're like, I mean that to say that,
Speaker 1: to kill a big cus deer buck, it's going to
Speaker 1: take more time outside of that October time so you
Speaker 1: can pinpoint where that big bucks living and then when
Speaker 1: it's October and they're like in their holes, you know
Speaker 1: that buck's home range. I would say that, you know,
Speaker 1: starting out going out in January, it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: a You're gonna have to put in a lot of
Speaker 1: time outside of the season when you're hunting. January would
Speaker 1: be when i'd start, and I would go during the
Speaker 1: rut when the deer out and their cruising and whether
Speaker 1: you're archery hunting or not, say okay, there's a big
Speaker 1: buck here. Then I would continue that on through the
Speaker 1: summer when they're in that velvet phase. It's hot, you know,
Speaker 1: but you're you're gonna be able to pick them out
Speaker 1: and figure out, Okay, here's where that buck's living. And
Speaker 1: then before they kind of like in that September phase
Speaker 1: as well. So it's gonna be kind of like a
Speaker 1: year round endeavor where you go out you understand and like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this area has a high population of big bucks. I
Speaker 1: see them here. I'm they're running, you know, as long
Speaker 1: as it's on area where they're transitional, moving from like
Speaker 1: a big high mountain down to the low stuff during
Speaker 1: the rut, and say like, okay, here's a here's the
Speaker 1: area that these bucks are in. I know that there's
Speaker 1: a big book there, because you don't you gotta be
Speaker 1: in an area where big bucks live to shoot a
Speaker 1: big buck. Start number one, so you're gonna find them
Speaker 1: when it's the easiest time to find them January, then
Speaker 1: you're gonna go back and try to like pinpoint that
Speaker 1: deer because what coups do you do is they actually
Speaker 1: have a fairly small home range, Like you might even
Speaker 1: find that that buck in September, like when he's out more.
Speaker 1: You just find that buck and you're like, Okay, he
Speaker 1: likes to bed here, he likes to bed there, he
Speaker 1: likes this kind of canyon sweet. And then when that
Speaker 1: October time comes, like when it's the hardest to find
Speaker 1: these bucks, when there's a lot of people out, when
Speaker 1: they're pressured, you're like, you can go and you can
Speaker 1: really just get in that spotting scipe, get in those
Speaker 1: binos and just pick it apart because you know that
Speaker 1: you're spending your time looking in an area where that
Speaker 1: buck probably is, and you can really focus in on
Speaker 1: that that thick cover kind of stuff, and then you
Speaker 1: can you know, hopefully pull out that buck that you've
Speaker 1: already located and know like this is where he's at,
Speaker 1: this is his zone. Now I just got to find him.
Speaker 1: And I would say that that's going to be the
Speaker 1: way that you're gonna be most successful taking a big
Speaker 1: cus deer during that time of year, and the same
Speaker 1: goes for I mean really anything big meal dear can
Speaker 1: be like that as long as they're super transitional. If
Speaker 1: it's more of like a buck that has a home
Speaker 1: range and they're you know, they don't cruise a big distance,
Speaker 1: but cuse dear, they've got like I would say, a
Speaker 1: mile radius maybe two mile radius that they like and
Speaker 1: that's their zone. And so if you can pick them
Speaker 1: out in the summer and then kind of learn that
Speaker 1: buck zone even year after year, you're gonna just start
Speaker 1: like you're gonna start rolling into big buck after big
Speaker 1: buck by just knowing that area so well and knowing
Speaker 1: where those deer are before the season starts. The question
Speaker 1: I actually really like because it hits home for me.
Speaker 1: Um let's tell a little story here in a second,
Speaker 1: but comes from NICKI says, Hey, remmy, how a mountain
Speaker 1: lion take a deer just yards from the house. They
Speaker 1: have been getting too bold over the past decade, but
Speaker 1: especially in the last couple of years. As you are
Speaker 1: well aware, options for hunting lions in organ are limited,
Speaker 1: but most of our lion trail camp photos are in daylight,
Speaker 1: and we usually get one on camera within sixty eight weeks.
Speaker 1: I hear that lions in this area run circuits that
Speaker 1: can take roughly two to six weeks. I've never hunted lions,
Speaker 1: and I'm intimidated by the idea that they might only
Speaker 1: be coming through once every two to six weeks. What
Speaker 1: tips do you have for lion hunting when focused on
Speaker 1: one location? The cameras help a bit and add a
Speaker 1: few pieces to the puzzle, but are not enough alone
Speaker 1: to pattern them. Are there some rules of them for
Speaker 1: patterning lions? Love the show? Sincerely, Some dude from a
Speaker 1: brush patch in western Orgon h that's a that's a
Speaker 1: great question. And I say that's a great question because
Speaker 1: just last night I had a lion kill a buck
Speaker 1: white tail essentially I don't know, ten ft from my cabin.
Speaker 1: Um I could. I woke up and I was like
Speaker 1: I heard. I'm like, jeez, what's going on? And a
Speaker 1: cat killed a deer right behind me there. Um, It's
Speaker 1: not the first encounter or first time I've had cats
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. We can chase them with dogs,
Speaker 1: but not this time of year I've had I've probably
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of deer killed just you know,
Speaker 1: within a spitting distance of where I sleep so UM.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that I've found.
Speaker 1: One weird thing that I found is like there they
Speaker 1: tend to be more concentrated in the wintertime, like they've
Speaker 1: got that smaller range, especially if it's really hard to
Speaker 1: decide what those cats are doing where you're at, not
Speaker 1: knowing enough about the area. So I don't know how
Speaker 1: how big the property is that you've got, you know,
Speaker 1: access to hunt, if it's just like a small neighborhood plot,
Speaker 1: or if it's like you know, you've got public land
Speaker 1: and then it comes in your private and they're just
Speaker 1: killing the deer because they're concentrating in like your yard.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what happens for me. So it's got
Speaker 1: a big area where they roam, but you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: the deer concentrate here. But also got some really thick stuff.
Speaker 1: Tend to find that they the cats seem to be
Speaker 1: like clustered up in some of this stuff. Certain times
Speaker 1: a year. Um, they do move through, but it's also
Speaker 1: crazy how tight they'll hold sometimes. I guess really the
Speaker 1: number one thing I would do is if you've got
Speaker 1: to kill, um, you can hunt off that kill or
Speaker 1: like hunt the cat as he's coming and going to
Speaker 1: the kill. Another option is waiting for snow. If you
Speaker 1: can't hunt with dogs and you can't do whatever, your
Speaker 1: only options spot in stock then tracking him yourself. I've
Speaker 1: actually walked down quite a few cats myself. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: generally they jump up pretty close. You could use I'd
Speaker 1: have maybe two different types of ways of shooting, like
Speaker 1: a shotgun or something if it jumps up and runs
Speaker 1: because it's kind of the brush a little bit um
Speaker 1: or you know, just going slow and glassing as well,
Speaker 1: but waiting for that fresh snow, cutting that track, then
Speaker 1: following it. As far as finding the pattern, it would
Speaker 1: be really tough to do unless you have more information. UM.
Speaker 1: But I will say one thing I have noticed is
Speaker 1: I find a pattern not necessarily in like looking because
Speaker 1: I've got the same thing where it's like I know
Speaker 1: that these cats are coming through certain times, And what
Speaker 1: I do is I just keep all the data in
Speaker 1: one spot and then I go and look back, and
Speaker 1: it's almost it's like crazy, how within the day or
Speaker 1: two days it's like this certain time cats start coming through,
Speaker 1: and you can kind of look year to year, it's like,
Speaker 1: what's this pattern overall? And sometimes You've got to kind
Speaker 1: of just step back and say when you're trying to
Speaker 1: pattern certain animals that seem kind of unpatternable, where they've
Speaker 1: got these really big circuits, saying like, okay, well how
Speaker 1: often is this cat coming through? But like look at
Speaker 1: it from year to year? Is it is it coming through?
Speaker 1: Like and then start to piece together, like look over
Speaker 1: historical data of what was the moon doing, then, what
Speaker 1: was the weather doing, and what was was it a
Speaker 1: dry year? Was it a wet year? Was it a
Speaker 1: year where it's like, hey, maybe it's a really dry year.
Speaker 1: The dear higher concentrations, a deer on your property and
Speaker 1: they're coming through kind of uh when there's no moon,
Speaker 1: or they're coming through when it's a full moon. You know,
Speaker 1: kind of deciding those kind of things and looking at
Speaker 1: those patterns and trying to decipher, okay, well when are
Speaker 1: these cats moving through and when it's gonna give me
Speaker 1: my best opportunity to try to pinpoint where they're at
Speaker 1: and win hunt. And that's that's what I kind of
Speaker 1: gathered from that. I got one more gear question here
Speaker 1: It says uh Q and a question I'm looking to
Speaker 1: purchase my first bow. I'm looking at a one piece recurve,
Speaker 1: something classy and deadly. I'm expecting to spend some money
Speaker 1: on this, so I want to make sure I purchase
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm looking for. My question is I'm right
Speaker 1: handed and comfortable shooting my rifle right handed. The problem
Speaker 1: is I'm left eye dominant. When I shoot my buddies bow, naturally,
Speaker 1: I shoot right handed. Should I buy a bow left
Speaker 1: handed decater to my dominant eye and learned to overcome
Speaker 1: the awkwardness? Or should I buy a right handed bow
Speaker 1: and shoot with my less dominant I I'd really love
Speaker 1: your input on this big dilemma from me right now.
Speaker 1: Thanks Remy, keep crushing, Eric. That's a great question, Eric,
Speaker 1: I've got it, you know, if you go through a
Speaker 1: lot of the Q and a's. I think I've answered
Speaker 1: this question in one form or another many times, but
Speaker 1: bears repeating, Um I would I would get the one
Speaker 1: left eye dominant. Um, I would shoot the bow left handed,
Speaker 1: especially if you haven't really started. I think for a
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. I mean, when when I talk about
Speaker 1: like bow shooting, you know you're shooting for your eye dominance. Well,
Speaker 1: shooting a rifle right handed, you're you're bringing the gun
Speaker 1: to your right shoulder. You're controlling the weapon with your
Speaker 1: right hand, which makes sense, you know, you're right. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's for your dominant eye. But it's also easier to
Speaker 1: control the weapon if you're right handed as well. But
Speaker 1: think about shooting a pistol. You shoot a pistol with
Speaker 1: your right hand, why would it not be more easy
Speaker 1: like easier? I mean, it's it's like using your dominant
Speaker 1: hand to control the bow if you were left eye
Speaker 1: dominant and right handed. It's actually not a bad thing
Speaker 1: because you're controlling the bow with your dominant hand and
Speaker 1: drawing back with your non dominant hand to your non
Speaker 1: dominant eye. So in many ways, it's actually better, um
Speaker 1: to shoot a left handed bow or you know, to
Speaker 1: your left eye dominance. Now, if you're already kind of
Speaker 1: accustomed to shooting a bow the other way, it could
Speaker 1: be very difficult to train yourself in which case I
Speaker 1: don't really know the answer, you know, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot better shot, especially um with the traditional bow,
Speaker 1: if you can uh shoot to your dominant eye. So
Speaker 1: I would say that, and then as far as uh
Speaker 1: gear goes on, like a solid recurve. I definitely look into.
Speaker 1: You want like a really classy piece, go for a
Speaker 1: stalker stick bow like those you make some South Cox
Speaker 1: makes some incredible bows, so that's one to definitely check out.
Speaker 1: That's like a piece you can pass down for generations.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, UM does a great job with them.
Speaker 1: So I've definitely look into that and I but also
Speaker 1: I mean also think about possibly doing a takedown recurve
Speaker 1: of some kind as well. UM. That's just my suggestion
Speaker 1: because I have a one piece one and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: it's hard to travel with, so it's nice to have
Speaker 1: a takedown, but you know, different strokes for different blokes.
Speaker 1: Last question comes from uh Federa, says Remy love the
Speaker 1: podcast UM. The questions deal with hunting big mountain white
Speaker 1: tails out west or eastern Washington. The area hunt steep
Speaker 1: mountains with lots of ridges and draws. Is there a
Speaker 1: mix of clear cut selective logging in dense forests? Um?
Speaker 1: They The first question says, I see a lot of deer,
Speaker 1: but almost all of them are groups of three days
Speaker 1: two year lin deer? Is my area at a white
Speaker 1: tailed nursery? Is there such a thing as a nursery
Speaker 1: and if so, will bucks come to the area where
Speaker 1: I should where should I spend my time to bag
Speaker 1: a big buck? And question number two says, do you
Speaker 1: ever use techniques like drag scene h drags, estris is,
Speaker 1: estris calls, grunts, rattling decoys, etcetera. I want white tail
Speaker 1: hunting out west. That is actually sorry, this was a
Speaker 1: cented from this the wife's account, so it's from Sean. Uh,
Speaker 1: great question Sean um, And I'll tell you what. So
Speaker 1: the first thing, yes, there is such thing as a nursery. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of you know. The other thing is
Speaker 1: maybe the deer where you're at just um, you know,
Speaker 1: like how do you distinguish where doughs are going to
Speaker 1: be from like where does and fawns are And that
Speaker 1: can be difficult. I will say, yes, bucks will cruise
Speaker 1: through there, but they probably won't hold. So if you're
Speaker 1: pre rut hunting, you're definitely gonna find dear you know,
Speaker 1: checking those areas where there's does and fawns. Um. And
Speaker 1: if there's a lot of doughs, then you're gonna find
Speaker 1: a lot more bucks. And then there if there's the
Speaker 1: occasional dough it's like, Okay, here's a pocket with more doughs.
Speaker 1: It's just like anything during the rut, the does will
Speaker 1: attract the bucks and so hunt the dose. Uh Now,
Speaker 1: question number two Calling techniques, gonna have to tune in
Speaker 1: because we're gonna be doing a white tailed Western white
Speaker 1: tail calling episode here shortly, so check back in next week.
Speaker 1: I think I'll do it next week, but it remains
Speaker 1: to be seen. So for the answer to question part
Speaker 1: number two, if you want to know some Western white
Speaker 1: tail calling tactics, you're going to have to continue to
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast. Appreciate everybody tuning in. That concludes
Speaker 1: our mail sack for the week. Thank you guys so
Speaker 1: much for sending your questions. I appreciate every question out there.
Speaker 1: I hope that UM answered it and maybe somebody else
Speaker 1: had that same question. So thank you guys for you know,
Speaker 1: stepping up being the ones that raise your hand in
Speaker 1: class and say, hey, I got a question on this
Speaker 1: because it probably helped everybody else. So I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, tuning in, Stay tuned
Speaker 1: because coming up for the rest of the month, we've
Speaker 1: got some late season tactics. Like I said, maybe some
Speaker 1: white tail uh calling and rut stuff, you know, white tail.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of white tailed deer hunting still
Speaker 1: out west, and maybe some tactics you could take back
Speaker 1: home to wherever you live when it comes to calling deer.
Speaker 1: So we'll stay tuned for that and best of luck everyone,
Speaker 1: keep the questions coming. And how are we gonna end
Speaker 1: to this one? Uh? Just get out and hunt, Just
Speaker 1: get out and hunt. H