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Speaker 1: Oh, Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star

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Speaker 1: Credit Union, featuring Jaguars Senior writer John Osher and executive

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Speaker 1: producer Dave de Candice. I'm looking forward to this interview today.

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Speaker 1: It's with a player that I think people are starting

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Speaker 1: to get to know around the Jaguars. It's a young

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Speaker 1: guy who has a lot to say, has led an

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Speaker 1: interesting life. He's one of the more interesting off field

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Speaker 1: young players on the Jaguars. I think by now people

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Speaker 1: probably have extent that I'm talking about Jaguars right tackle

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Speaker 1: Juan Taylor. Juan, first of all, thanks for doing this.

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Speaker 1: I know during the season this is a busy time

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Speaker 1: and to take this time, we really appreciate it. I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you first, so we'll get into a

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Speaker 1: lot of different things. David want to ask you first

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Speaker 1: on the field through five games, how do you feel

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Speaker 1: like Juan Taylor? I'll go the third person there? How

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Speaker 1: do you feel like Jawan Taylor is playing this year?

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Speaker 1: So far? I feel like I'm playing pretty well. UM.

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Speaker 1: I definitely definitely want to keep on progressing throughout the season,

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Speaker 1: getting better, being more consistent with my play, protecting my

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Speaker 1: quarter that better. UM. Different things like that I'm just

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Speaker 1: improving on, trying to keep improving on and listening to

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Speaker 1: what Cold War Hoop tells me and locking in every

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Speaker 1: day and practice on different things I need to get

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Speaker 1: better on. So I've been you know, just you know,

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Speaker 1: keying in on those things and I go to practice,

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Speaker 1: and man, sure I'm getting ready for Sundays right now,

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Speaker 1: just in the process of doing that. But so far,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm playing pretty well, but I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: trying to get better. I haven't talked to you about this,

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Speaker 1: and I'm curious. It kind of steps it back a

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Speaker 1: little bit and we're gonna move forward more than anything.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about your rookie year and how tough it

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Speaker 1: is for an offensive lineman in the NFL to adjust.

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Speaker 1: What was the biggest thing that you took away and

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Speaker 1: what was the toughest thing about that year. First off,

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Speaker 1: just coming in having to learn the actual NFL style

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Speaker 1: that was pretty tough at first, um, but then after

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Speaker 1: I learned that, it was just transitioning from the game

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Speaker 1: speeds a little different from college to the pros. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, um, going against great players every single day,

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Speaker 1: like I came in going against like Yannick and got

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Speaker 1: Quai and Kelis Campbell and Josh Allen, different guys like

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Speaker 1: that every day. So um, that definitely made me better

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Speaker 1: and had me prepared for, you know, my first game

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Speaker 1: in the in the NFL. So uh, you know, just

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Speaker 1: doing that, just the transition to that was hard itself.

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Speaker 1: But um, other than that, um, everything else was good.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're playing the game we love, and you

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Speaker 1: know we come in every day in the build and

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Speaker 1: you just come in with a great attitude and in

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Speaker 1: the great mindset and just you know, you gotta you

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Speaker 1: gotta be willing to learn every single day being a rookie. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, just be quiet in the back of the

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Speaker 1: meeting room and ask the question you need to ask questions,

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Speaker 1: and you know, listen to your your veterans because last

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Speaker 1: year I had all veterans next to me, and I

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Speaker 1: was the youngest on the old line and in the

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Speaker 1: old line room. So just soaking up everything. Brandon and

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Speaker 1: Cam and and all those guys were telling me a

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Speaker 1: j and and you know that that helped me out

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Speaker 1: a lot. So um that that helped me get through

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Speaker 1: through our rookie year for sure. Now. The reason I

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Speaker 1: never realize, But I noticed early this offseason from it

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Speaker 1: seemed like the first week and a half after this

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Speaker 1: You're already lifting, You're already working towards this season. This

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Speaker 1: is pretty covid, but not every first year a guy

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Speaker 1: going into the second year is back like that. Does

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Speaker 1: that say anything about who you are your approach? It

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Speaker 1: struck me that you really were ready to get started

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Speaker 1: as soon as this thing ended last year. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Most definitely always had that work ethic and the hunger

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Speaker 1: in our drive to want to be better, be the

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Speaker 1: different things I need to improve on from our rookie

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Speaker 1: So um, it wasn't no problem for me. UM. I

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Speaker 1: I had just locked into it and try to get better.

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Speaker 1: So then they get this straight. You're young enough that

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Speaker 1: after a sixteen game NFL season you're ready to start

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Speaker 1: working out a week later. Oh definitely. Um, And it's

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Speaker 1: crazy because I felt so great throughout the season. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, thank god, I just I just was healthy

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Speaker 1: all year. I played every single snap. Um, so it

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Speaker 1: care of my body. So it was crazy. I felt

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Speaker 1: little few things and bruises, but it wasn't nothing crazy.

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Speaker 1: So um, it definitely it was so easy. And plus

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Speaker 1: twenty one, so um, just jumping back into it wasn't

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Speaker 1: that hard for me. Yeah, John let me give you

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Speaker 1: a hint when you're fifty four sitting behind the keyboard

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Speaker 1: all season. I needed two months. So that's what's coming.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're not congratulations on that. UM, tell me

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Speaker 1: about George warhop And I know you haven't had a

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Speaker 1: different NFL line coach, but we don't know him that well.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't talk publicly a whole lot. Uh, it seems

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Speaker 1: like he's helped you a lot. Amazing coach, amazing person

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Speaker 1: Warhock just going back all the way into the draft

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Speaker 1: like that. I did a private workout here before again

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Speaker 1: you know, he's all about work ethic and straining and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate him for that, you know the most, cause

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Speaker 1: you know, I just trying to lock in a way

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Speaker 1: you know, he's coached some of the best. Um he's

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Speaker 1: so you know all that, all that you know, knowledge

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Speaker 1: So you know, he's a He's a great guy. Though.

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Speaker 1: I've got to talk about this fish here in a

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Speaker 1: second because we all saw the media and they even

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Speaker 1: asked about it. But one final football question before him

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Speaker 1: but um, what how much confidence did you guys have

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Speaker 1: it's it's just you know, we came in confidence. Just

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Speaker 1: We all practiced hard and um in all season and

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Speaker 1: it's just that's just how it is. Man. We we

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Speaker 1: So I feel like that's was making us better. Big guy. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: have you always been a football guy? Is this something

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Speaker 1: that you knew from early on you wanted to do? Oh, definitely,

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Speaker 1: I've been. I was saying I wanted to play NFL

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Speaker 1: playing football for nineteen years now. The football became came

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Speaker 1: before the drums. Oh yeah, football came for the Jones.

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Speaker 1: Drums came in six, football came in four. Now having

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Speaker 1: because my grandmother was a pastor. You know, my grandmother

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because my brother is mostly talented, so he

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Speaker 1: I remember one Christmas they bought me and my brother

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Speaker 1: um it was crazy. They'll come home from work and

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Speaker 1: I can't bring this set up here. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it was fun. There was a lot of fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've got a kid four houses down. He practiced in

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Speaker 1: the garage. He's not popular. Um. The fish, this is

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Speaker 1: not something that a normal fisherman could catch dry. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be pretty experienced to catch it. Tell

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Speaker 1: you won't catch that many fish that wait more than you, right, no, never,

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Speaker 1: like they've been a huge influence. Oh, definitely, especially my parents,

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Speaker 1: That says something to me. He didn't go deep into it,

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Speaker 1: going to be because he didn't work for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jowan just I think he's a guy who has some

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Speaker 1: get him to say this, but he's playing at a

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Speaker 1: So there's like a last open lockerroom period before everybody

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Speaker 1: people packing up, there's a lot of stuff going on

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Speaker 1: get two weeks off, and then you're at a rookie

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Speaker 1: minicamp and then you're you're an NFL player. And just

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Speaker 1: for him to still like felt fresh at the end

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Speaker 1: of the seasons, pretty big compliment to him. He strikes

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Speaker 1: me as that guy you were friends with in high

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Speaker 1: a remarkable guy. And I'll say it again. I know

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Speaker 1: I'm a broken record on it, but guys like Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: D J. Chark, and Jowan Taylor. Uh, for fans who

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Speaker 1: look at the Jaguars right now and wonder where it's headed.

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Speaker 1: I've these guys are guys that you want around year

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Speaker 1: three all three of these guys are quality guys and others,

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Speaker 1: but they stand out to me I on these fronts.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to build a round around here in

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Speaker 1: Jowan Taylor is one of those guys. So on that

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Speaker 1: note day, I will thank Joe fort Shadow they do

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Speaker 1: every week for taking me down better than I am.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here for putting up with me

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Speaker 1: as always. That was this week's Thow's Own podcast. I

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Speaker 1: thought Jowan Taylor was great, certainly didn't suck. We'll look

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Speaker 1: forward to talking to you guys next week