1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're reviving 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Sabrini an Escu with a champagne drip and chess compressions. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: On today's show, the WIBA Finals celebration continues. We'll chat 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: with the ESPNS Andrea Carter about the sensational series between 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: the New York Liberty and the Minnesota Links, and we'll 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: reflect on the legacies of the matchup stars. Plus an 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: NWSL scoring sweep and Orlando streak of a different kind 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: and biased dresses. That's right, it's all coming up right 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: after this welcome back slices. Here's what you need to 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: know today. After the New York Liberties thrilling WNBA Finals win, 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Cheryl Reeve, head coach of the Minnesota Lynx, blasted the officiating. 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: Take a listen. 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: I know all the headlines will be Reeve christ foul. 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: Bring it on, right, Bring it on, because this shit 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: was stolen from us. 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: Bring it on. 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: Reeve also took a jab at New York for the 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: team's five one hundred thousand dollars fine for illicit use 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: of charter flights in twenty twenty one, and a little 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: side jab at the Las Vegas ass for that franchise 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: is rule violation regarding player benefits. 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: Here's some more. 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 4: You know what, we gave hope to those teams that 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: aren't willing to circumvent the cap or you know, fly 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: illegally or all this stuff that's happened over the last 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: five years, right, and so I mean, do it the 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: right way. It gives hope for those other teams that 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: you can build a team just like ours. 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: You don't have to have a super team, right, you 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: don't have to have that. There's a different way to 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: do it. So I'm incredibly proud of them. 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Meantime, Liberty coach Sandy Broundella was asked about Reef's comments 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: on officiating during her own postgame press conference. 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: Here's what Brondelo had to say. 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 5: I thought that, yeah, pretty fair. I mean, last game, 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: you know, I mean, that's what you're gonna give and take. 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: Like again, number one, we should have won that game, 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 5: you know, close it out. But look, I have so 39 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 5: much respect for Cheryl and I have so much respect 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 5: for that Minnesota League because, ma'am, I mean, that was ugly, 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 5: but we found a way to win. 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: Both Brondelo and Reeve had called out bad officiating earlier 44 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: in the series, with a lack of consistency at the 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: center of their concerns. Always tough to have a major 46 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: championship a great series like that leave you with so 47 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: many questions about officiating, but certainly something for the league 48 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: to look into after complaints about officiating pretty much throughout 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: the season and postseason. Now in happier post title news, 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: The Liberty sat down with Robin Roberts on GMA on 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Monday morning, and it was great to see the whole 52 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: team up on stage talking about the franchise's first win. 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: We got to do a little diggy to find out 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: why Sabrina Escu almost didn't make it. I think it 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: might be back to that Champagne trip we saw her 56 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: getting on Sunday when she was cramping up. 57 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: Try to take pictures with the trophy. 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: More WNBA news, the WNBA Players Association announced that they're 59 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: opting out of their collective bargaining agreement. According to Cheneogumkay, 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: who broke the news on ESPN, the union's Executive Committee 61 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: and the Board of Player Representatives voted on Monday to 62 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: get out of their current CBA two years early. The 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: current agreement, which was initially set to expire in twenty 64 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: twenty seven, will still be in effect through next season. 65 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: Opting out just means that the union and the league 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: now have a year to negotiate a new deal, or 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: else there will be a work stoppage. Heading into the 68 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season, the union is likely to focus 69 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: on getting players bigger salaries and more financial incentives, especially 70 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: following the league's recent historic media rights deal valued at 71 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars per year. In a statement, WNBA 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: Commissioner kat the Engelbert said, quote, with the historic twenty 73 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: twenty four WNBA season now in the books, we look 74 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: forward to working together with the players and the WNBPA 75 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: on a new CBA that is fair for all and 76 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: lays the foundation for growth and success for years to come. 77 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: End quote. 78 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the w We've got yet another new coaching vacancy, 79 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: as the Dallas Wings fired head coach Letricia Trammel on 80 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: Friday after just two seasons. Trammell's been a fan favorite 81 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: because of her charisma and her raw, unfiltered emotion, and 82 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: just last season, she helped the Wings to the franchise's 83 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: best record since eight, but this season injuries through a 84 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: wrench in Dallas's plan. Star forward Satusably missed twenty five 85 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: out of forty games with a shoulder injury, and two 86 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: time All Star Natasha Howard sat with a broken foot 87 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: that she suffered during the first game of the season. 88 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: There were more injuries to including promising young player Maddy 89 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: Segresse breaking her left index. 90 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Finger and missing time. 91 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: And to be honest, the rest of the league just 92 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: got better while the Wings didn't. They wrapped twenty twenty 93 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: four next to last in the league with a nine 94 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: to thirty one record. Trammell is the fourth head coach 95 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: to be fired since the twenty twenty four regular season ended, 96 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: joining Kurt Miller, Teresa Witherspoon, entity Schwreight to the NWSL. 97 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Just days after breaking the NWSL single season goal record, 98 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City's Tenwchiwenga became the first player in NWSL history 99 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: to score on every team in a single season. She 100 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: accomplished the feat by scoring her twentieth goal of the 101 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: season in a four to one victory over the San 102 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: Diego Wave. Also in the NWSL, the Orlando Pride lost 103 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: for a second time in as many games, falling to 104 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: Gotham three to one. 105 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: It's the first time. 106 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Orlando has conceded three goals in one game this season. 107 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: A lot of tears and hugs this weekend as several 108 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: NWSL players were celebrated. Gotham and former national team star 109 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: Kelly O'Hara got a big retirement sendoff in New York. 110 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: NWSL legend and current Angel City player Merret Matthias was 111 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: honored in LA as she ends her career, and at 112 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: that same Angel City game, Kristin Press was recognized for 113 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: her one hundred caps in the NWSL. More NWSL news, 114 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs are nearly set over the weekend. Utah, Angel City, 115 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: and San Diego were all eliminated from contention. That leaves 116 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: three teams in contention for the final two spots, Portland, 117 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: BAFC and Louisville. They'll have to wait a while to 118 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: see who makes the cut, as the NWSL is pausing 119 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: the regular season for a week for the NWSL Times 120 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: League Mxfeminial Summer Cup Championship game, taking place between Kansas 121 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: City and Gotham this Friday night. The final week of 122 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: regular season action will be the weekend of November first, 123 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: Also in soccer news, more than one hundred players are 124 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: protesting FIFA's sponsorship deal with Saudi Arabian oil giant ORAMCO. 125 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: One hundred and six international athletes, including former US national 126 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: team captain and current Thorns player Becky Souerbrun, signed a 127 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: letter calling out Saudi Arabia's human rights violations against women 128 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: and members of the Lgbtqia plus community, as well as 129 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Saudi Aramco's environmental impact. The four year FIFA Aramco partnership 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: includes sponsorship rights for the twenty twenty seven Women's World 131 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: Cup in Brazil. The letter calls the deal a quote 132 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: middle finger to women's soccer end quote, and cites a 133 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: list of women in Saudi Arabia who have been punished 134 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: after speaking up for women's rights. FIFA seems to be 135 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: unphased and unwilling to budge. In a statement to multiple 136 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: news outlets, the soccer Federation said it quote values its 137 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: partnership with Aramco and its many other commercial and rights 138 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: partners end quote. We got to take a quick break 139 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: when we come back. It's the mother of nothing. 140 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: Andrea Carter. 141 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: Joining us now. She's a host, analyst and reporter for ESPN. 142 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: Covering the WNBA, the MNBA, and Women's and men's college hoops. 143 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: She graduated from Universe See of Tennessee with her bachelor's 144 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: degree in communications and her master's degree in kinesiology. Was 145 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: part of the last hoops class to sign under the 146 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: Late Pat Summit, and before injury sidelined her, she made 147 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: ball handlers fear for their lives. She's a part of 148 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: ESPN's Big Three alongside Al Duncan in Cheneogum Makay a 149 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: Georgia native, and she loves the crap out of her 150 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: snake child named Nothing. 151 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 2: It's Andrea Carter. What's up? Andrea? 152 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: What's up? You said that nothing? He's just in his 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: little tank over here, just keeping me company. 154 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: I was going to request that he be a part 155 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: of the interview, but I do want you to focus 156 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: on important things. Maybe at the end we'll we'll put 157 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: nothing in your arms, because we got to start with 158 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: the snake, actually, because I didn't believe that that was 159 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: yours when I first saw your photos a couple years ago. 160 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I remember I slid into your DMS and I'm like, 161 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: what is happening? So can we get the brief story 162 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: on nothing? And just snakes in general. 163 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I had snakes growing up, Like as a child, 164 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 6: my biological dad had a snake. 165 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: That's where it all started. 166 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 6: And then my mom, when it was just her and I, 167 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 6: she got me a pet snake. Take me to the zoo, 168 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 6: and I would always want to see the snakes. I 169 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 6: have art like from elementary school where I drew snakes, 170 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 6: and when I. 171 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: Grow up, I will have a pet snake. Like it 172 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: was just always a thing. 173 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 6: And my stepdad, who raised me most of my whole life, 174 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 6: came in when I was pretty young and he's like, 175 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 6: no snakes. And so as I got older, I was like, 176 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 6: when I go to college, I'm getting a snake. And 177 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 6: literally freshman year, a group of my friends I had 178 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 6: shoulder surgery that year started at the very beginning of 179 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 6: the season, was sidelined with an injury, had shoulder surgery, 180 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 6: and after getting through that rehab, which was brutal, I 181 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 6: do all my other surgeries before I did my shoulder again, 182 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 6: they got me a snake and I've had him since then. 183 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: And that was twenty thirteen. 184 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: So how long do snakes live? 185 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 6: He could live like twenty to thirty years just here 186 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 6: in the wild. I think it decreases a little bit. Yeah, 187 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 6: but he's fed regularly and kept. 188 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: Saying do you need a snake watcher? Or can he 189 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: be alone while you're gone on your trips and be alone? 190 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 6: I'll have someone to come. I have a few good friends. 191 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 6: One of my college teammates, Bashara, actually, so he was 192 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 6: raised with hers in Atlanta, So she'll come by and 193 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 6: just like change his water, take him out, kind of 194 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 6: play with him a little bit. 195 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: But I've left him for a week at a time. Yeah, 196 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: someone comes to changes water. 197 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: It's a little different from a dog sitter to be like, 198 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: will you come hang out with my snake? 199 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: I love less work he eats does a month? 200 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: Does nothing have? Does nothing have? 201 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: I did not intend on asking this many snake questions, 202 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: but now I'm in. Does nothing have the kind of 203 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: scales that are super like buttery feeling like super soft? 204 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, like he is. 205 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: I've handled several snakes and some of them are like, truly, 206 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: I hate to say it feels like a beautiful bag, 207 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: because you know that's insulting to the snake population. But 208 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: some of them are a little scalier and gross. But 209 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: then the buttery ones, like I'm in I'm in. 210 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 6: And he's iridescent. When he sheds like he gets super irridesent. 211 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 6: Take him outside and he's the best. 212 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: He's okay, Well nothing, I'm sorry for even invoking the 213 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: idea of pursus. 214 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 2: I am anti snakes purse. Okay, important stuff. 215 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: WNBA Finals and the game five overtime win for the 216 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: Liberty on Sunday or was it a loss? Drea give 217 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: it to a straight Did the Liberty win or did 218 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: many lose? 219 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 5: Ugh? 220 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 6: I Ah, that's so tough because obviously two things are true. 221 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 6: But for me, I'm just like Minnesota lost it, or 222 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 6: like or it was like was it taken from Minnesota? 223 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 6: And this is the hard part, right because obviously there's 224 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 6: so much nuance, and it's never black and white. 225 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: There's always a gray area. 226 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 6: So there are going to be people that said that 227 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 6: was not a foul on Atlanta Smith. There are also 228 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 6: which I was so mad at myself when watching the replay, 229 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 6: I was so focused on the foul and where Alanta 230 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 6: Smith was sliding and watching that I didn't notice the 231 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 6: travel that could have been called on Briennasto caught the ball. 232 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 6: So there are so many things where people could be 233 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 6: like if if that call went the other way, or 234 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 6: if that call wasn't called at all, what would have happened, Like, 235 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 6: who knows what that would what would have happened. Would 236 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 6: Minnesota have gotten the ball or if they overturned the 237 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 6: foul call, then maybe would they have done a jump 238 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 6: ball and then would Minnesota have gotten that or would 239 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 6: they been able to set their defense? And then on 240 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 6: the other side, for the Liberty side, it's also like, yeah, 241 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 6: but there was still five seconds left, so who knows 242 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 6: what would have happened. We still could have tied it. 243 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 6: And then there's also the main group of people I 244 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 6: think that are like, you know, but there was still 245 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 6: five minutes left in overtime to go win it, and 246 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 6: so there's so many that's that's the beautiful thing. 247 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: About the game and the frustrating thing about the game 248 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: is there's all this gray area. 249 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 6: Obviously, hats off to the New York Liberty for winning, 250 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 6: because they went like, at the end of the day, 251 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 6: they can't what was what was. 252 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 3: New York supposed to do? 253 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 6: It be like, oh, actually she didn't foul me and 254 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: I traveled, so we're not gonna like you play the 255 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 6: game that the refs call and so you can't be like, oh, 256 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 6: New York shouldn't have to do done, and they dominated overtimes, 257 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 6: so I'd say New York won it in Minnesota lost. 258 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: And there we go. Yeah, we get you muted on 259 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: around the horn. 260 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: I want you to know that, but in this show 261 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: will allow you to have the nuance of both being true. 262 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, ronwall Jones. What does this mean 263 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: for her? The finals MVP? Adding that to her legacy. 264 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: It's huge. And you know, John Quall is the player. 265 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: She's so kind like, she is such a kind like. 266 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 6: She's someone that you just actively root for, and she's 267 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 6: someone that's also experienced heartache. 268 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: At Connecticut, she had. 269 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 6: Opportunities to win a championship with really good teams and 270 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 6: the makeup of those teams was obviously something that she 271 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 6: felt like she had to step away from and couldn't 272 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 6: find success there, and then has this opportunity with New 273 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 6: York and there's so much attention on them last year, 274 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 6: and last year seemed difficult from the outside looking in 275 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 6: like and figuring out where she now fits with the Liberty, 276 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 6: and then this year for her to almost come into 277 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 6: her own again and know her role and just be 278 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 6: so consistent all season long and then so consistent in 279 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 6: the finals and have her moment where she is so celebrated. 280 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 3: It's wonderful. You know, this is a. 281 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 6: Player for me with John Cuell, I don't think she's 282 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 6: celebrated enough and that we could do a better job 283 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 6: of that in the media. 284 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: She wasn't celebrated when she won the MVP Award. She 285 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: wasn't celebrated. 286 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: If there's a beautiful article written about it after the fact, 287 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 6: but that was almost written about how she wasn't celebrated enough. Yeah, 288 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 6: and so you know, she is a player that deserves it. 289 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 6: She's a center that can score. 290 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: From all three levels. 291 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 6: She shot fifty percent from the field, forty from three 292 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 6: to ninety percent from the free throw line. That Minnesota 293 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 6: really had no answer for John Quell and she was 294 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 6: the key to their victory. So I think just as 295 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 6: far as being a matchup nightmare and being a consistent 296 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 6: presence to win a championship, that is now added to 297 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 6: her resume, and I think it's great. 298 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: She deserves it. 299 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned that she's sort of the intersection of 300 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: so many things that we talk about in this league 301 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: that are off underappreciated, woman of color, queer woman, masculine 302 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: presenting big right. We love our guards, we love our 303 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, flashy, and she just gets the job done. 304 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: From six Women of the Year to season MVP, now. 305 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: Finals, MVP Champion, plenty of All Defense, plenty of All 306 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Star appearances. 307 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: Where does her career fit into the best all time? 308 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: For you? 309 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 310 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: Wow? 311 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I would definitely say John CLO's up there. 312 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 6: I mean, how many players in the league have an 313 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 6: MVP and a championship like that alone? Puts her in 314 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 6: a group or in a tier that is above a 315 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 6: lot of players, and she could she still hopefully has 316 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 6: a lot of time left and her game actually still 317 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 6: has room to grow. 318 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: And depending on whether she. 319 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 6: Stays with New York or where she goes next, you know, 320 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 6: she's absolutely a player who could win another MVP if 321 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 6: she wanted to win another championship if she wanted to. 322 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 6: So I think that there are obviously the players that 323 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 6: won multiple championships multiple they're in the tier of their own. 324 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 6: But John Quell's almost in that middle space, you know, 325 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 6: where she's like above the majority of the players, and 326 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 6: she's reaching for that top tier. And I think it's 327 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 6: special and it's also a testament to you know, John 328 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 6: Quell is a player that left her family and her 329 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 6: the Bahamas and to come here and play basketball. So 330 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 6: her story and her testament to almost betting on herself 331 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 6: when she went to New York, it's really cool. But yeah, 332 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 6: she's she's she's moving into the top tier, but she is. 333 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: She's well above the majority, well. 334 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: And so consistent across this series, which was what the 335 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: Liberty needed because you look at Stewie and Sabrina big missus, 336 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: big makes, but big misses, lots of misses. It felt 337 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: like roller coaster esque for both of them throughout this 338 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: five games. 339 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: Where does Stewie fit into the goat conversation now? 340 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: Because it's odd that she ends up winning this title 341 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: and is a part of this team and adds that 342 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: to a resume that is almost unmatched. But also throughout 343 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: this series, I saw a lot of conversation about how 344 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: Nafisa Collier was the one who would now slid into 345 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: right behind Asia Wilson as opposed to Brianna Stewart. Yeah, 346 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean what a season that fee had, right, Like, 347 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Nefisa was absolutely amazing. 348 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: What have for sure? 349 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 6: One MVP if the Minnesota Links would have won like 350 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 6: the Pole playoffs and her final series was just phenomenal. 351 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: The defense that she played against Brianna Stewart. When you 352 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 6: talk about this season, Nafisa is one hundred percent like 353 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 6: right behind Asia Wilson. 354 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: It was. 355 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: It was clear as day. 356 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 6: When you get into the larger conversation of where people 357 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 6: stand in this league, Stewie has created separation. 358 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: With the MVPs and with the championships, But. 359 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 6: When you get into who's catching up as just as 360 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 6: far as individual presence an individual, as far as being 361 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 6: effective goes as an individual, Fees up there. 362 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: Fee's right there. 363 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: When you watch those two go one on one, it 364 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 6: was phenomenal and Fee often won those matchups, but they 365 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 6: the way that they battled and for me, fees on 366 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 6: her way, Like, I absolutely think Nafisa will win an MVP. 367 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 6: Nefisa Callier will win a championship. It might be multiple 368 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 6: her games. She's so tough to guard and like she 369 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 6: is a player that has perfected. 370 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: The fate the faded way. Like think about how many 371 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: players in the league, in the w and in the NBA. 372 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 6: That have almost perfected that shot to the point where 373 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 6: it's unguardable. She already has that in her bag. She's 374 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 6: not even having to add that. Now she's going to 375 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 6: add everything else. So for me, v is catching up. 376 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 6: You know, she had a couple of tough seasons just 377 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 6: with Minnesota in general, but Fee as a player individually 378 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 6: is coming into her own and I think she'll move 379 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 6: into again. Like we're witnessing players that will be marked 380 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 6: as some of the greatest we've ever seen, which is 381 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 6: so cool. 382 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Do you think Minnesota could have the firepower to make 383 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: another run next season if the roster doesn't get changed 384 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: too much? 385 00:17:59,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. 386 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 6: I actually think Minnesota could be a team that makes 387 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 6: a move similar to the New York Liberty because coming 388 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 6: into this season right New York added Leoni Foebish and 389 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 6: then they trusted that Niaresabeli would kind of come into 390 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 6: your own, which she did to perfection. 391 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: Shout out to her, because what a performance. I could 392 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: see Minnesota. 393 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 6: They could definitely go and try to get a big name, 394 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 6: which would also totally work, but I could also see 395 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 6: them doing something where I'm as an analyst at the 396 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 6: beginning of the season being like, wait, that's. 397 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: It said, and you were like and she shut me up. 398 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she did, And I love that. 399 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 6: Like, the one thing I will do is coll as 400 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 6: beta Spade when it happens, and then collas beta. 401 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: Spade in reflection whether I'm right or wrong. 402 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 6: And uh, you know, I think Minnesota for me, they 403 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 6: were such a tight knit group. Like when I was 404 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 6: watching them play, there were times where I was like, 405 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 6: Minnesota has the better team, like in terms of the 406 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 6: team and the way they mesh and the way they 407 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 6: celebrate each other and the way it looks like they 408 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 6: just play with so much joy. But the Liberty at 409 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 6: times had better pieces, right, talented and more daces yep, yeah, 410 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 6: and more depth exactly. So if Minnesota kind of the 411 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 6: way New York did, they add a couple of pieces 412 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 6: that maybe people are like, but it adds to their death. 413 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 6: I think Kaylea McBride and a Fisa Collier can absolutely 414 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 6: lead a team. Courtney Williams coming into her own in 415 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 6: that point guard position. 416 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: That's where I wonder what they'll do. 417 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 6: Will they keep her as the point guard or will 418 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 6: they kind of move her into her more natural spot 419 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 6: if she thinks her natural spot is the two what's 420 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 6: that conversation with Courtney and where does she feel her best, Like, 421 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 6: is that there big three and they try to add 422 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 6: support or do they try to bring someone else big in. 423 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 6: There's so many things that could happen, But I think 424 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 6: this team with a tweak, like it doesn't have to 425 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 6: be a big change. The Minnesota Links with a tweak 426 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 6: could win a championship. 427 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 428 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean this offseason there's gonna be a ton of 429 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: disc gushion around the super teams and the teams that 430 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: got it done because of coaching and balance and vibes 431 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: like the Links. But also there's gonna be a big 432 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: shake up in the form of the Valkyries, the expansion draft, 433 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: and what it means for the league to build another 434 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: team next year, two more teams the year after. 435 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: It's gonna look a lot different. 436 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea who you think the Liberty 437 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: are going to core in the off season or Minnesota. 438 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough, obviously, I think, and I don't. 439 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 6: I would if you're in Minnesota, you core a fee 440 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 6: of course, like you you have to keep her, You 441 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 6: have to keep Nafisa Callier. She is, you know, one 442 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 6: of one in her own right, And I know we 443 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 6: use that term loosely, but there really isn't necessarily a 444 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 6: player like the FISA caller when it comes to footwork, 445 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 6: when it comes to the fade away, when it comes 446 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 6: to her defensive presence, and when it comes to her 447 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 6: poise like NAFISA callier is so she almost just looks 448 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 6: unbothered when I watched her play unfazed. Yes, like we 449 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 6: saw that exactly, and like I love if she gets 450 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 6: fired up. But I think they would core her if 451 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 6: they had to. If you could pick one, right, I 452 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 6: think would be in a FISA and for New York. 453 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting. I think it would. 454 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 6: To me, I would just course Stewie, like Stewie does 455 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 6: so much for you, uh, because she could play all 456 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 6: five positions, So that to me is. 457 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 3: Something that you you don't want to let go of. 458 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be fun to watch the Valkyries create 459 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: a brand new team and see who hangs on to whom. 460 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: All right, last two quickies. 461 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: Kathy Engelbert's dress featuring the New York skyline? Is this 462 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: are we feeding into Minnesota conspiracy theories? 463 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: Should Kathy have taken a hard look at the mirror 464 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: and said, I don't know if this is the right choice. 465 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: Probably. 466 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 6: I like, yeah, like you wear one and we get 467 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 6: we get it all the time now and it's kind 468 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 6: of like phased. 469 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: Out now that I'm more in studio. 470 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 6: But when I used to call games, it was like 471 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 6: a big thing, like you don't wear the team's color. 472 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 6: You never wear the team's color, supecially not the home 473 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 6: team color, but don't wear any team's color at all. 474 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: Is studio, it's a little bit different. Like I'm in 475 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: the studio. 476 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 6: I'm just grabbing as many you know, suits as I 477 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 6: can to be here for twelve days, and sometimes I'm 478 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 6: just not thinking. But I do think the skyline of 479 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 6: the city was a little crazy, like I maybe come 480 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 6: in in a certain fit, yeah, and then change into it, 481 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 6: but then have a Minnesota dress also to believe that 482 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 6: you weren't picking sides. 483 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how many brands are making Minnesota skyline 484 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: dresses unfortunately. 485 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: But also East Coast bias. 486 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 1: But also I feel like in her mind, she was like, oh, 487 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: it's Game five, We're in New York. It's just about yes, 488 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm from New York. But I would 489 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: have said just stay away from that just in case. 490 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: All right, Finally, unrivaled. How excited are you for this league? 491 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: Do you have any bold predictions about you know, I mean, 492 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: obviously a great TV deal, obviously a great chance to 493 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: see some of the superstars we love from the W. 494 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: But any bold predictions about the format or someone who 495 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: might show and that's unexpected in that format. 496 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 6: Oh, I think it's gonna be. Oh, I think it's 497 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 6: gonna be so much fun. Like, I think it's gonna 498 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 6: be amazing to watch. I'm so excited. I will be 499 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 6: down in Miami as a like, hanging out watching games. 500 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: I can't wait. And it's just new, Like anytime there's 501 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: a new format. The three at three on three in 502 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: itself is a completely different game. It's so much fun 503 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: to watch. 504 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 6: Like you can watch a player, you know, like a 505 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: Rique Goomba Walle just cook, like just b one on 506 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 6: one matched up and she'll have so many opportunities to 507 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 6: cook and create and and we'll see, you know, obviously, 508 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 6: bring a student a Fisa Collier, those two as business. 509 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: Partners, like a better for I know than the finals. 510 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 3: I'm I'm excited. 511 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: I called it h I called it Tampa City, USA. 512 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: Everyone said it's Tampa Bay because it's down in Florida, Andrea, 513 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: we love you so much. Thank you for making time 514 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: after an incredibly busy run here with the playoffs. 515 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on. 516 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: We got to take another break when we come back. 517 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: Conspiracy Coup Tour, Welcome Back Slices. The WNBA season is 518 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: technically over, but we can't stop thinking about this final series. 519 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: So in honor of all the shots, blocks, steals and 520 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: sellies that are still taking up space in our brains, 521 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: it's time for the moment we can't stop talking about, 522 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: presented by DraftKings, and for me, It'snfisa Collier changing her 523 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: future with a season and a postseason that left no 524 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: doubt about her place among the league's very best. Fee 525 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: has cemented her status as a no doubt MVP candidate 526 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: heading into next season, a player who we are certain 527 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: will be hot on the heels of the current Queen 528 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Aces, Asia Wilson. 529 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: Just listen to these numbers. 530 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: This playoffs, Nafisa Collier set the WNBA record for points 531 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: in a single postseason. In the finals, she averaged nineteen points, 532 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: eight rebounds, two point six assists, three point four steals, 533 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: and one point eight blocks while shooting forty nine point 534 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: four percent from the field. Her seventeen steals in the 535 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: finals marked the most ever by a player in a 536 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: WFA Final series, besting Tamika Ketching's previous record of sixteen 537 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: in the two thousand and nine WNBA Finals. 538 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: She led her team in four major. 539 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: Statistical categories during these finals, points, rebounds, steals, and blocks. 540 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: Last night, she also surpassed to Meka Catchings for most stocks, 541 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: steals and blocks in a single postseason with her forty 542 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: eighth and also tied Nakisha Sales for second most steals 543 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: in a postseason with her twenty fifth. Nafisa Collier, you 544 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: deserve some flowers for the effort that you put up 545 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: for the links, despite it being a losing effort in 546 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: the finals, So shouts to Fee. We can't wait to 547 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: watch you next season. Download the Draftking Sportsbook app now 548 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: and use code good Game. New customers can match us 549 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: five bucks to get two hundred dollars instantly in bonus 550 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: bets only on Draftking Sportsbook with code good Game, the 551 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: crown is yours. 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Don't forget to subscribe, Rate and review slices. 579 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: It's it's easy. 580 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: Watch WNBA commissioner Kathy Engelbert wearing a dress featuring the 581 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: New York skyline to Game five of the WNBA Finals. 582 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: Rating weirdness, review, fashion aside. 583 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: It's not a great look for the commissioner of the 584 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: league to show up to any game, let alone a 585 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: decisive Game five in a dress that clearly picks a side. Now, 586 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: there are some Minnesota fans out there who felt like 587 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: the fix was in, and you might have convinced him 588 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: it was just standard fan paranoia until they saw that 589 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: Empire State building planted right between Kathy's collarbone and hips. 590 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: Heads up for Nwslchemish Jessica Berman, be very careful when 591 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: selecting your fit for the championship next month. We're all 592 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: watching now, it's your turn, slices, Rate and Review. 593 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. See you tomorrow. 594 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: Good game, Andrea, good game, New York Liberty. 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