WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: Bot Army on Fire

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<v Speaker 1>Cutbooms.

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<v Speaker 2>If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes

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<v Speaker 2>a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants

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<v Speaker 2>of the old republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He

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<v Speaker 2>treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the

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<v Speaker 2>rich pill poppers in the penthouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.

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<v Speaker 2>The Fifth Hour with Ben Mahler starts right now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the air everywhere, The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Mahlor and Danny G Radio. And just like Muhammad Ali

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<v Speaker 1>said back in the day, on this podcast, we were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. Because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, this is just a benign podcast, the

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth Hour Podcast. It is in addition for the real

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<v Speaker 1>p ones of the Overnight Show during the week the

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Mahlor Show. You come in here, you hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with us on the podcast. But all things, as Ernest

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<v Speaker 1>Hemingway said, all things truly wicked, start from the innocence

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<v Speaker 1>of a weekend podcast. So you got me Ben, Danny

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<v Speaker 1>g is producing this podcast. He'll join me hopefully at

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<v Speaker 1>some point over the weekend. On this pod, We've got

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<v Speaker 1>growth hack, Bougie Benny and a Ring of Fire, and

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<v Speaker 1>these are never before told stories. You're only gonna hear

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<v Speaker 1>this content right here in the Fifth Hour. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a global exclusive. All the other broadcast companies want this content.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only available here for you. The competitive edge of

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<v Speaker 1>the Fifth Hour podcast right here. So we will not

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<v Speaker 1>waste any time and we will skid daddle into the

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<v Speaker 1>storytelling mode. So there was a point, and we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the media business, So there was a point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>long long ago when success. I'm gonna focus in on music.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know, I'm not a music guy. I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to music, but I'm not music guy. Started out as

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<v Speaker 1>a DJ. I was a bad DJ. I have friends

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<v Speaker 1>that are very into music. But the point of the

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<v Speaker 1>story is when there was there was a period of

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<v Speaker 1>time when success in the media business was measured by

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<v Speaker 1>something tangible, meaning ticket sales or screaming fans, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some gold records on the wall, stuff like that. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here we are in twenty twenty five, and success comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a bunch of bots in a basement somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>Moldova clicking repeat on a fake Drake song for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three hours a day. Now I bring this up because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not show business. It's show fraud, is what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>According to a new lawsuit filed recently by rapper RBX,

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<v Speaker 1>as I understand it, the same RBX from the death

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<v Speaker 1>Row Records days. I had to look that up. So

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<v Speaker 1>get to the point, please, So Spotify, the mass CIV

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<v Speaker 1>media company Spotify, which is so popular or are they

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<v Speaker 1>their entire empire, according to this lawsuit, is built not

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<v Speaker 1>on rhythm, not on the melody of the music or art,

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<v Speaker 1>but on algorithms, phantom users, and artificially inflated stream counts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the music industry anymore. It's the metric industry.

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<v Speaker 1>You see now Spotify again, this is going to a lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>Spotify is letting fake streams flood their platform by the

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<v Speaker 1>billions with a B like ben billions billions each month.

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<v Speaker 1>Now why would they do that? I mean, no reason

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<v Speaker 1>would there unless there's a financial gain. Ding ding ding

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<v Speaker 1>ding ding ding ding. Yes, because it turns out the

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<v Speaker 1>fake plays are really sexy for the people on Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street man, those people that do finances when they actually

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<v Speaker 1>deal with media companies, they don't seem to understand how

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<v Speaker 1>any of this works, which is somewhat troubling considering they

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<v Speaker 1>control the wealth of the United States. So because fake

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<v Speaker 1>people are listening to real music and it's fake plays,

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<v Speaker 1>they look good again for Wall Street and to advertisers

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<v Speaker 1>as well. The more streams that they can tout, the

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<v Speaker 1>higher rates they can charge for advertising. The shinier the

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<v Speaker 1>IPO is, the bigger the bonuses. It's the trickle down

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<v Speaker 1>economics from the bot. It's the oldest trick in the media.

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<v Speaker 1>Grift playbook, cook the books and then sell the sizzle.

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<v Speaker 1>Now your reminder, just so we don't get sued. You

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<v Speaker 1>can sue almost anyone for almost anything, and Spotify is

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<v Speaker 1>in a court case now defending themselves. The real question

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<v Speaker 1>isn't if you can sue, it's whether or not you

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<v Speaker 1>have a viable, winnable case. So turning the page on that.

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<v Speaker 1>If this lawsuit sounds familiar, caught my attention enough to

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<v Speaker 1>share it with you here on the podcast. If it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds familiar, it should. We have seen the same hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about motown hustle. We've seen the same

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<v Speaker 1>hustle before. I've ranted here on these microphones in the

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth Hour Studio Fifth Hour Podcast Studio, That podcast downloads

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<v Speaker 1>are tremendous bullshit, you know, and now listen, we do

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well. I've not invested in that form, but once

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<v Speaker 1>you see what happens in a lot of these podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh my god, oh my god, podcast downloads

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<v Speaker 1>that never existed. YouTube views inflated by bots. I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>that as I've gotten involved in YouTube, how bogus YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of it. You've got TikTok stars. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my personal favorite tale, and we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>in a previous episode of the Fifth Hour podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Lucky Tony knows exactly what day we talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But TikTok stars, who are so popular, have millions of

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<v Speaker 1>people following them on TikTok and the people love their music.

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<v Speaker 1>Except they could not sell out a coffee shop if

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<v Speaker 1>they were giving away free coffee. Couldn't do it. Couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Now, real fans buy concert tickets. Bots do not. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>real fans buy the concert tickets. The bots do not.

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<v Speaker 1>But these fake streams, if you believe this lawsuit, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaning that way, help Spotify keep its stock price

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<v Speaker 1>inflated again Wall Street. They don't do the digging on that,

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<v Speaker 1>so the stock price is inflated and its artist payout

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<v Speaker 1>numbers conveniently are obscure, right, they're kind of hidding. The

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<v Speaker 1>company claims to pay musicians based on the share of

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<v Speaker 1>total streams. But if total streams, if those numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>people futzing around, If there's stuff with robotic repeats, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know of Drake or any other top shelf act

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<v Speaker 1>that is part of the mainstream. The little guys get

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<v Speaker 1>pennies while the big dogs are raking monopoly money, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone smiles and nods like this is the progress of

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<v Speaker 1>the music world and all that stuff. It's kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you use a sports analogy, because plausibly, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the fifth Hours of Sports podcast, but the radio

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<v Speaker 1>show mostly is. So it's like baseball juicing the stats.

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone in twenty twenty six is going to a

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<v Speaker 1>bat four hundred, until you realize in order to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get to everyone batting four hundred, the

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<v Speaker 1>balls are made of cork, the fences are moved in

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty feet shorter, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's hitting four hundred. Now, make no mistake, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest con ever pulled in media, and that includes

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, we've had some Nielsen box futzing around

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<v Speaker 1>radio spins popular back in the day, those fake number

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<v Speaker 1>one on iTunes charts that exist for about eleven minutes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Spotify's entire ecosystem thrives on illusion. Right. They sell artists

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<v Speaker 1>on exposure, they sell advertisers on engagement, and they sell

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<v Speaker 1>investors on growth, all things that are very important in

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<v Speaker 1>the world of engagement. But in reality, if you read

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<v Speaker 1>this lawsuit, in reality, they're selling all of us a

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<v Speaker 1>ghost story. Oh spooky. Think of it like a musical

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<v Speaker 1>seance where the spirits are synthetic and the applause is

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<v Speaker 1>pre programmed. You'd think that this would absolutely outrage a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, specifically the people that are tasked to

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<v Speaker 1>regulate this kind of stuff, But it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>is not the case. Silicon Valley long ago. The people

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<v Speaker 1>that run the tech world master the art of self

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<v Speaker 1>policing much like the government does, which is to say,

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<v Speaker 1>not policing at all. Every bot farm is treated like

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<v Speaker 1>a growth hack, every fake stream a data point in

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<v Speaker 1>user retention. They're not fixing it because it's not a bug.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the business model that they're going for. The lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>calls out again, this is based on just what I

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<v Speaker 1>read the other day. The lawsuit calls out billions of

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<v Speaker 1>fraudulent streams. Again. I keep going back to that number.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. I just trying to wrap my head around

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<v Speaker 1>a billion and billions and billions of fraudulent streams. However,

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<v Speaker 1>that number does not even capture the cultural decay, the

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<v Speaker 1>rot that this leads to. Right, you push, you push

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<v Speaker 1>this out in the world that we're in, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot tell here's my point, When you cannot tell

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<v Speaker 1>what real anymore, When every chart, every ranking, every viral

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<v Speaker 1>hit is just a hologram, aren't you living in a

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<v Speaker 1>simulation at that point? And this is my argument about

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<v Speaker 1>the matrix and the Internet and all that stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>and who knows what's gonna happen with us? Lawsuit was Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not alone, Right, they're alone. It's just the latest

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<v Speaker 1>stop in the long digital funhouse. And up is down,

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<v Speaker 1>and right is left and black is white and bought

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<v Speaker 1>his fan And that's the way it is. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the music of the future, right, And this

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<v Speaker 1>is certainly not the future of music. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>a spreadsheet, humming to itself is what you're doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>Years ago, we used to mock. There was a group

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<v Speaker 1>called Milli Vanilli. You know, mock Milli Vanilli for lip syncing.

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<v Speaker 1>I told the story before that one of the members

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<v Speaker 1>of Milli Vanilli was a DJ at Kiss FM when

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<v Speaker 1>I got my start, one of my early jobs in radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I saw him doing a midday show, very

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<v Speaker 1>short show was before the day of voice tracking, so

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<v Speaker 1>we actually came in. Now the entire industry is lipsticking

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<v Speaker 1>to its own numbers. The bots have replaced the fan,

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<v Speaker 1>the data dashboards replace the DJ, and the accountants replaced

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<v Speaker 1>the artist. And just like that, Oof goes to magic

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<v Speaker 1>drag and authenticity has left the building. It's taken the

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<v Speaker 1>shortcut out of the building. Now, if this lawsuit gets traction, maybe, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe we'll see someone holds some people accountable. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>hold your breath. When there's this much fake money swirling around,

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<v Speaker 1>No one wants to turn off the tap. If you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, right, Why would anyone mess with this?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's making money, money, money, money, money, money. Bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>though the music industry, and I know I do sports

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<v Speaker 1>and spoken words. But the music industry didn't just sell

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<v Speaker 1>its soul to the algorithm. It rented it out by

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<v Speaker 1>the stream. And the only ones dancing are the bots.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are billions of heart stopping bots that are

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<v Speaker 1>dancing and having a great thing and just wonderful, and

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of us thunderheads over here like what

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing? Some serious god zukeri are turning the page.

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<v Speaker 1>So the maloromobile, I know you love stories about the malomobile.

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<v Speaker 1>You're nodding your head, Yes, I know. So the malomobile

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<v Speaker 1>is not just a mythical vehicle like the Batmobile or

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<v Speaker 1>the Scooby Van. No, no, no, the dream Machine van.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a companion in many ways. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>confessional booth. It's a war buddy, the radio wars. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been with me through more dead of the night

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<v Speaker 1>freeway drives than most people have seen sunrises, just has.

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<v Speaker 1>And while other people upgrade, and I live in a

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<v Speaker 1>place where you upgrade all the time. Other people up

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<v Speaker 1>grid their rides like phone models. Now you got to

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<v Speaker 1>get the new iPhone and all that we've stuck with

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<v Speaker 1>the old friend, battered, scarred, and more reliable than the

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<v Speaker 1>Dodger Bullpen in the regular season in July. This isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the showroom Queen, the Malamobile. It is a working class

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle that knows the exact on ramp rhythm of the

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<v Speaker 1>one oh one at three point forty three in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>when the freeway's hum like a sleeping beast. The Malormobile

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<v Speaker 1>has seen a thing or two, so it knows a

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<v Speaker 1>thing or two. In many ways, it is a museum piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the fancy wing of the museum where the whispers

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<v Speaker 1>are there about impressionist art and all that stuff. The

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<v Speaker 1>other wing, the one where they show you the relics

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<v Speaker 1>from ordinary lives. The rotary phone, the transistor, AMF radio,

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball mint, that type of stuff, the lawnmower that

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<v Speaker 1>smells like summer. It's seen the Malomobile Los Angeles at

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<v Speaker 1>its emptiest and the rarest form of the city when

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like a ghost town. It's seen me shuffled in,

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<v Speaker 1>bleary eyed, armed with a bottle of caffeine pills and

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of opinions about the type of pancakes Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick likes to eat when he's in Chapel Hill hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with Spacoli. Now it's it's waited patiently. The Malomobile

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<v Speaker 1>sits there, waiting for me in the parking garage at

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<v Speaker 1>the iHeartMedia Building, the Premiere Network Studios, home of Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. It is there like a loyal dog, engine

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<v Speaker 1>cooling its cracked leather, quietly testifying to the many years

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<v Speaker 1>of service. Unfortunately, as you know, nothing lasts forever. Time

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<v Speaker 1>is undefeated. Recently experienced the awkwardness of getting into the

0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Melamobile and sitting on the driver's seat. And this has

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<v Speaker 1>been my throne. This has been my throne for some time. Unfortunately,

0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the throne started cracking. The driver's seat. The leather on

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<v Speaker 1>the driver's seat started cracking. And I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a small little crack, no, no, no, This was the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fissure that makes you say out loud, well

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<v Speaker 1>that is not good. That I'm telling you that is

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<v Speaker 1>not good. And then you start debating with yourself, like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it wasn't that bad. I'm just imagining it being

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<v Speaker 1>that bad. It probably wasn't that bad. But you say, well,

0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not good, you say it out loud, just talk

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, no one in particular. And this was not

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<v Speaker 1>just a tear in leather. In many ways, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a wrinkle in time right. It was the first whisper

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<v Speaker 1>that this car, which had been a loyal foot soldier

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<v Speaker 1>for the radio show, the first whisper that the Maladmobile

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<v Speaker 1>was moving into the well loved classic chapter of its life.

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<v Speaker 1>And now now back in the dark ages when I

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<v Speaker 1>learned to drive and was enjoying my CD. Actually, when

0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I learned to drive, it was like cassette tapes, so

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<v Speaker 1>we had CD easy as well. But when I was

0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:26.760
<v Speaker 1>growing up, I would see cars that had seat covers.

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<v Speaker 1>Seat covers were a joke. They looked like something you

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<v Speaker 1>won from a claw machine at a carnival. They were ugly,

0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:41.280
<v Speaker 1>they were saggy. It was just a sad disguise to

0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:46.320
<v Speaker 1>cover up and paper over the cracks for a really

0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.960
<v Speaker 1>sad seat. And if if your car had seat covers

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, it meant you were like

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<v Speaker 1>one car wash away from giving up entirely. However, to oh, no,

0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:07.320
<v Speaker 1>seat covers have become bougie. Yeah, so you can call

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:13.199
<v Speaker 1>me bougie Benny. They really have the hug the seat

0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.880
<v Speaker 1>gets from the cover. They hug those things like their

0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:22.800
<v Speaker 1>tailored suits, and you can't even tell they're there, which

0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:27.240
<v Speaker 1>blows me away. And I don't know when that happened.

0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't paying attention. It may have happened years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the boats of the automotive world. Subtle, their sly,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just speak to you. I've still got this.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some more life in me, these old bones,

0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.040
<v Speaker 1>this old warhorse has more more time. So we made

0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the leap, and we did it. We pulled the trigger.

0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:53.439
<v Speaker 1>A major upgrade to the Malemobile forced because of a

0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.520
<v Speaker 1>rip in the leather. New seat covers, not wheel not

0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.560
<v Speaker 1>new wheels. We didn't get new tires, not a new

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<v Speaker 1>sound system. We didn't spend seventy eighty ninety one hundred

0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.879
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars on a status symbol. We didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't get massage seats, and we didn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger display. It didn't go down to Best Buy and

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<v Speaker 1>buy a bunch of bells and whistles. No, what we

0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.879
<v Speaker 1>bought was just a simple seat cover, a simple act

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to preserve what we have, the kind of

0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:30.000
<v Speaker 1>thing you do when your car is not a disposable product,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's more of a relationship. So you see the

0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Malamobile has earned every scar. It's been in multiple accidents,

0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:42.399
<v Speaker 1>every freeway chip, every dog here from Moxie and the

0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:47.000
<v Speaker 1>late Great Bella embedded deep in the carpet and the

0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.440
<v Speaker 1>seats and all that. Every dent that comes out has

0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.959
<v Speaker 1>a story. You know, at the time, I was leaving

0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the Fox Sports Radio parking lot and I swung a

0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:01.400
<v Speaker 1>little too wide. Ding ding, Yeah, a little bit too

0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:05.480
<v Speaker 1>much there the time. You thought you could parallel park

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.439
<v Speaker 1>like a champ, but you were a little tired, and

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.760
<v Speaker 1>needless to say, it didn't go so well. A new

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.880
<v Speaker 1>car would erase all of that. I'm not a historian.

0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I am not a historian, but a new car would

0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.640
<v Speaker 1>erase all of that history, all of it. And these

0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.600
<v Speaker 1>seat covers in many ways honor it. This is how

0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:28.360
<v Speaker 1>people who actually live a real life. And I'm assuming

0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you're like me as well. I do overnight radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not getting rich, I'm not making Colin Coward money, so

0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I got to preserve what I have, and so this

0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.720
<v Speaker 1>is how we do it. You know. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>not just driving the car. You're not doing that. You

0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.080
<v Speaker 1>treat the ride the way it needs to be treated,

0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and you do a little patch over here, a little

0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.040
<v Speaker 1>spackle over there, and you keep the thing going. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little malor meatball surgery on four wheels and the malomobile.

0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>We're not replacing the malamobile. We're not. It's just being refreshed, revived,

0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing, right. And so this is how

0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 1>people who again are partaking in this, you know, late

0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.720
<v Speaker 1>night radio thing. Every late night radio shift begins and

0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:19.320
<v Speaker 1>ends on that driver's seat. It's the malormobile that warms

0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 1>up while the rest of LA cools down or in

0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:25.400
<v Speaker 1>some ways burns more in that a minute. But it's

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the malormobile, the iconic malomobile, that gets gets you to

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the studio through those graveyard hours and some sometimes during

0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:37.639
<v Speaker 1>the day. We don't like to talk about that. Sometimes

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 1>have to go out during the day and get your

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<v Speaker 1>home though, before the world wakes up, and the seat

0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:47.400
<v Speaker 1>covers are more than full leather. They are. They're a statement.

0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:52.200
<v Speaker 1>They're a middle finger to the depreciation value of automobiles,

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.720
<v Speaker 1>a quiet rebellion, if you will, against the very idea

0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that everything must be replaced the minute it shows any

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of where the world sports stadiums the worst is

0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.720
<v Speaker 1>sports stadiums and I've not been to Europe. I'm gonna

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.520
<v Speaker 1>get there at some point. And some of these stadiums

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 1>on the pitch are from the eighteen hundreds. I think

0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>there's one that's even older than that, believe it or not.

0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.199
<v Speaker 1>But they've been around, been around a long time, and

0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>they don't get rid of them. They don't here we

0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.280
<v Speaker 1>get rid of stuff. And so yes, the math Andmobile

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<v Speaker 1>has seen better days, better days, but it has also

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<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of days, and that does matter. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not just driving to work. Spent a lot of time

0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.679
<v Speaker 1>in the Malamobile from the north Woods. We're driving a timeline. Now.

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Some of you guys I know, like JT the Wingman.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of you guys are in your car all the time,

0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Truck or Joe. All you guys a rolling archive, moving

0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:50.719
<v Speaker 1>man Matt in Boston, a museum piece that still punches

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.359
<v Speaker 1>the clock. And now now it's become because of the

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.679
<v Speaker 1>improvements of technology, a bougie seat cover. It looks just

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.679
<v Speaker 1>a little more dignified doing it. And the truth is

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 1>a new car might ride smoother, would get better gas mileage.

0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 1>It would also cost one hundred thousand dollars or whatever.

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 1>These cars are insane and in fact, I'm not gonna

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:13.879
<v Speaker 1>get any more new cars. I think I've told that

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.680
<v Speaker 1>story before. I'm going used, pre owned, whatever you want

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.360
<v Speaker 1>to say. Certified, pre owned is the way to go

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 1>on that. If I do get a new car, the

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:24.919
<v Speaker 1>car I got to teach the car. It wouldn't know

0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the rhythm of the overnight, it wouldn't understand me. So

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the maloromobile rolls on. It's still scrappy, it's still scarred.

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Just got a nice new suit covering it up. One

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 1>other thing I wanted to mention, and the naked city burns.

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>So again a story about me coming and going to work.

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:50.200
<v Speaker 1>So driving back to the north Woods in the aforementioned

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:56.159
<v Speaker 1>malomobile is like slipping through a portal, a dimension, a

0:22:56.240 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 1>parallel dimension. Overnight commute to Bizarrow and I just like

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>to share these crazy stories that happen when I'm driving home,

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 1>because it's there's no one with me, everyone's sleeping, it's

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.719
<v Speaker 1>just me and the road. And there's something about Los

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Angeles at night that just hits different. It just does

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the daytime version. If you, I know most of you

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 1>aren't in LA, but if you've ever been to La,

0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the daytime version is this manic dreamscape of Tesla's and

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:31.879
<v Speaker 1>juice bars and tofu salads and kale fueled optimism and

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 1>all that. And then after midnight, after midnight, the mass

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 1>goes away. And when you go further and further into

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 1>the night, the city of Angels, which is really the

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:49.200
<v Speaker 1>city of Dodgers, becomes a mood piece. It's smoky, it's cinematic,

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it's slightly surreal. So I do this drive often. I

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:58.639
<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about my commute, winding from the Sherman

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Oaks Studios just down the hill from bel Air, through

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the labyrinth of freeways, the maze that that is always

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the same mission. Avoid two things I try to avoid.

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 1>I try to avoid Coltrans, which is freeway work and

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 1>drunk drivers. Both will ruin your night, one slowly and

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.239
<v Speaker 1>one suddenly. But the endgame is not good. So the

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>one on one freeway again, another one on one freeway story,

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:31.719
<v Speaker 1>my companion. This is a pretzel, a ribbon of asphalt

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that doubles as a I've talked about a water park.

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>When it rains, it fills up with water and floods

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 1>because the people at Caltrans don't believe in clearing out

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the drains that the freeway has until it rains. So

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you really haven't lived until you've hydroplane passed the Koanga Pass.

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>You just have it right wondering whether your tires are

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>auditioning for Finding Nemo, the new version of Finding Nemo

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 1>or not. Now the other the highway that I was

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>on turned into a James Taylor song, the one to

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>one Freeway, fire and rain with a touch more arson

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 1>than melody. So somewhere near the Fourth Street Bridge, coming

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>to the East LA interchange, four Street bridge, the cinematic

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>overpass that you've seen in every car commercial, every low

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>budget crime movie since the nineteen seventies, there's this one

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>stretch in LA. They film all the car commercials there.

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>It's wild. It's been in every kind of car commercial anyway.

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 1>So I rolled straight into a ring of fire, not

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>realizing it was a ring of fire. I'm not talking

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>about some kind of made up fire. This is not

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>This is not some bogus nonsense, not Johnny Cash poetic fire,

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 1>actual fire, burn, baby burn. So I'm driving, I'm mining

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>my own business, and this I see up ahead, like

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a little orange. What's that? That doesn't look good?

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.400
<v Speaker 1>And it was a blaze that was flickering just off

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to the right, just off to the shoulder, and it

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>was licking up into the end of the night air

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and it was so bright it was painting the concrete walls.

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>There was this orange glow from the fire. And it

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>was crazy because behind it, I'm just trying to paint

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the picture if you're blind. So behind it, the skyline

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>is glistening. You know, it's got a pretty good skyline.

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not as good as like Vancouver's got a better silene,

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's a nice skyline. And so it's it's

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>glistening there the glass towers of downtown Los Angeles reflecting,

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was just crazy. You got this

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>cathedral of mirrors and here I am out in the

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>distance and moonlight in the air, and moonlight doesn't care

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>about this. All of a sudden it became this dystopian,

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>oddly beautiful situation where it's like watching civilization rehearse its

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 1>own funeral. Uh, that could be too dramatic. But you

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>could feel the heat from the car. You could smell.

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure. I thought it might have been plastic.

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure exactly what it was burning and I

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>see the heat, and I'm not going that fast. I'm

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of cruising trying to save truth be told, I

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.719
<v Speaker 1>try to cruise down the one on one save some

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 1>money on gas. But because I'm cheap like that, I

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>am cheap like that. So I see the heat shimmer,

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, dancing above the flames and all that stuff,

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and no sirens, no flashing lights, just me and just

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>casually driving up ahead. I see the city ablaze. So

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I did what any responsible grown up would do. I

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>grabbed my phone and punched in three numbers and I said, okay,

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>let me help them out. Now, my wife works in

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.640
<v Speaker 1>the business of chaos. She's one of the calm voices

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>that answer when your life falls apart. So I called

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>her employer nine one one, what's your emergency? I calmly

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>told them that I was just a motorist. I was

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>not an arsonist. I was a motorist and I just

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>happened to see the fire. And I said, well, we

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't start the fire. I said, half of Billy Joel,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>half civic duty, and probably just another meth head, somebody

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>leaning in too much doing fentanyl. And then the match

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is lit in the middle of the night. See. That's

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the part though, That is the part the outsiders never

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>quite understand. When you visit southern California, Los Angeles does

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<v Speaker 1>not sleep. I see it because I'm there. It burns.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not some kind of apology. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of the word here, like a apocalyptic like

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<v Speaker 1>the San Andreas Fault, the fire season kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It burns in spirit, this strange again glow, this a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of desperation. Some loser arsonists lit this thing on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>But at three in the morning, the city is it's

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<v Speaker 1>like half of it's an art film with the buildings

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<v Speaker 1>in downtown. Half is a fever dream. And there is

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<v Speaker 1>this I'm telling you this when everyone's sleeping, but not

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's sleeping. It's like there's a there's somewhere out there

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<v Speaker 1>as somebody who drives a prius in Silver Lake who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to make the next big movie, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know their name yet. Right, there's that person. Then there's

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<v Speaker 1>some actress who's crying outside a Melrose apartment, and a

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<v Speaker 1>guy named Vinnie or possibly Steve torching a mattress under

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<v Speaker 1>the four Street bridge, and each one living a different

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<v Speaker 1>version of the same story. Right, trying to stay warm.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know this is a place where they sell sunshine.

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<v Speaker 1>By you can buy a lot of sunshine. So I

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<v Speaker 1>rolled down the window. I watched the flames dance. I

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<v Speaker 1>then looked in the rear view mirror. No cops, no firefighters,

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<v Speaker 1>just another unsupervised, uncontrolled blaze in the naked city, a

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<v Speaker 1>live action metaphor for La itself. Dazzling, obviously a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit dangerous. There the fire and one spark away from

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<v Speaker 1>absolute cast. Now I kept driving north, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>heading to the north Woods, past the flickering lights, past

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<v Speaker 1>the echo of sirens in which finally arrived, and that skyline.

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<v Speaker 1>I love skylines. I'm a big skyline guy. Love beautiful skylines. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>is that great? It's just wonderful man made art. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it was all kind of a mirage. At that point,

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere between Studio City and the north Woods, I realized that, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of crazy. This is wild and nuts

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. And so even though Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>has many issues politically, taxation, all that stuff, it's not dying.

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>It's rehearsing. Some would say, it's always been on fire,

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<v Speaker 1>always been on fire. Right, Sometimes literally sometimes spiritually on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, every couple of months we need reasons to

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<v Speaker 1>burn stuff. And the Dodgers won the World Series, So

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do? People are flummoxed. They go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and they destroy the thing of a jig

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and the watch mccullett and all that stuff, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're good for another couple of months until something else happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I will tell you this. The people that

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<v Speaker 1>live here find new ways to burn and destroy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of these people don't seem very political,

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<v Speaker 1>but they find ways to burn stuff anyway. That's the secret.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the secrets here about La does not fade

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<v Speaker 1>quietly into the night. It glows until the morning and

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<v Speaker 1>when the sun comes up tomorrow, tomorrow is another day.

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<v Speaker 1>Just it's like artistic. It's very artistic, is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, leave you on that, have a great

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your Friday. We may have an ask Ben

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<v Speaker 1>if you listen to this on Friday on the X machine,

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<v Speaker 1>so keep an eye on that or possibly the YouTube page.

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<v Speaker 1>Benny versus the Penny is up. Check out week ten

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<v Speaker 1>the full edition of Benny Versus the Penny. I Love you,

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you, for listening. Danny G thanks you. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he loves you, but we thank you together,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll have a new podcasts all weekend later. Skater

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<v Speaker 1>Asta Pasta now a Rivada, Jay got a murder. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go.