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Speaker 2: Life's going, man, I mean off season, getting more time

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Speaker 1: So it's been cool. Yeah, what's the vife in like? Uh,

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Speaker 1: in the workout vibes?

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Speaker 2: Just defensively, I mean, just continuing what we were on

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Speaker 2: last year and building off of that and you know,

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Speaker 2: having whatever new guys come in kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: So josh y'awork said, or you.

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Speaker 2: Just to getting OTAs goops and to actually gett off

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Speaker 3: Getting some work together and building the chemistry entire school.

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Speaker 1: I mean very excited.

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Speaker 2: I mean it just means we're closer to the season

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Speaker 2: and that's the best part of football for me. You know,

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Speaker 1: So the rookies, w what's this process like, you know,

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Speaker 3: What's the lots of mo weeks? You know they at

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Speaker 3: work community games last week? What's that process been like

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Speaker 3: for you to get speaking?

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Speaker 2: I mean, uh, I'm just a player, I'm not a coach,

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Speaker 2: So I ain't really been two hands on with them

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Speaker 1: So Josh, how about the success that you had this

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Speaker 1: past season? Mm, how do you be in this offseason?

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Speaker 3: Try to build off that?

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Speaker 2: Where you take from that? I mean, uh, last year's

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Speaker 2: last year. I mean, can't cash in on much from

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Speaker 2: last year. You know, it's a new season and just

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Speaker 2: kind of just trying to forget last year and just

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Speaker 2: build and become the best football player I could be.

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Speaker 2: So trut d did you think i'm'na look for you

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Speaker 3: But when you look at sort of production, I guess.

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Speaker 1: What what sort of clicks? It was?

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Speaker 2: Just being more free, just uh, you know, not stressing

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Speaker 1: And just going out there and having fun.

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Speaker 2: I mean, uh, kind of when I found my groove,

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Speaker 2: I just found myself having a lot more fun and

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Speaker 3: Does that mean there was a time when you might

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Speaker 3: have been focusing on things outside your control, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know, I know I'm not the

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Speaker 2: So it was just you know, a learning experience and

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Speaker 1: And it's still coming together. You know.

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Speaker 3: So, what were some of the things you let go

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Speaker 1: You know, but if you take it day to day,

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Speaker 2: So Josh Shu think you're talking about how much of

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Speaker 1: To play this game. So what do you flip it

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Speaker 2: So I I like to watch uh moving arc on

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I gotch talking about last year.

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Speaker 3: But I guess quite literally, you'rerun in contract to your

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it just comes back to controlling the controllables.

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Speaker 2: I mean all I can do is come in each day,

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Speaker 1: I I can't control that right now, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know. Eventually the rest of handle itself.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just you know, I that's what I

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Speaker 2: So just constantly watching different guys, Uh, I kind of

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Speaker 2: kind of go back last year and see things I can.

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Speaker 1: So how important is it to you last year?

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Speaker 1: But maybe yeah close. God, I mean, at the end

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Speaker 2: So it's you know, wherever I'm needed, you know, like

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Speaker 2: And that's the one thing I've tried to live by

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Speaker 1: To be like? And what makes some a good coaching

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Speaker 3: So you tuch anything specific you've been working on in

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Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I love football, so I'm trying

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Speaker 2: Uh as I can be, you know, coverage, pastors, run,

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Speaker 1: So did you do some of that again in South

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Speaker 3: and you guys were talked last year. I said, both

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Speaker 3: all helped you know, both of you as you broke

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Speaker 2: But you know really how successful I mean, Big Mic,

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Speaker 2: that's my man's like, that's really like my brother. Like

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Speaker 2: you know, Uh, we were roommates together when we first

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Speaker 2: as y'all know. But you know, just living with Mike

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Speaker 2: Like I definitely thank god he put us in the

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Speaker 2: same situation, you know, on the Patriots, and you know,

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Speaker 2: having a good friend like that to to be able

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Speaker 3: But they don't wanna rest on what happened last season

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Speaker 3: to you know, just appreciate what you did double digit sacks,

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Speaker 2: Uh? Not really, because I feel like if you just

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Speaker 2: kind of just I try to leave that where it's

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Speaker 2: I'm worried about the past, then I can't capitalize on

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Speaker 1: Sir, Yeah, why question?

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Speaker 2: Uh, I was just gonna ask about Mike in your relationship.

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Speaker 2: Does it how does it go deeper than just being

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Speaker 2: Michigan guys or being Patriots football players. I mean, y,

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Speaker 2: him being Nigerian, It's like he understands what it means to,

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Speaker 2: you know, for hard work. You know, that's our culture

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Speaker 2: and to have somebody that understands, you know, mentally, and

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Speaker 2: our families are close, you know, so us kind of

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Speaker 2: being really tied in it allows us to keep pushing

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Speaker 2: each other, motivating each other and understand that it's like, hey, yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's tough, but you know we're built for it. So

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Speaker 1: it's been great. Thanks Josh, appreciate you guys,