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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronis, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. And it's time for another edition of

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys on a Tuesday here at the Star in Frisco, Texas,

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Speaker 1: home of your Dallas Cowboys. After a rookie mini camp

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, and then reality hits this week as

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Speaker 1: the rookies joined the veterans, and then next week we've

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Speaker 1: got OTAs and on and on it goes, and before

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Speaker 1: you know it, we'll be in Oxnard, California. Right, guys,

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Speaker 1: that's where I am going. Are you going to Hawaii?

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Speaker 1: I hope? So that's I buried the lead there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: before you know it, we'll be in Honolulu. Yes, there

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Speaker 1: you go. All right. We had a big weekend and

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity for the first time to check out

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Speaker 1: this rookie class and the coaches more importantly, had a

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Speaker 1: chance to work with them on the field at Ford

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Speaker 1: Center here at the Star in Frisco, and we got

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to over the course of the

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Speaker 1: next hour. We invite your phone calls. Ken Garrison here

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Speaker 1: to take your calls, and any of these rookies that

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Speaker 1: you might have a question about give us a hauler.

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Speaker 1: And we've got three experts in the room. Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Mickey Spagnola, who can tell you exactly

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Speaker 1: how what they saw over the weekend. Can I just

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Speaker 1: give Brian quick props for finding a way to write

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Speaker 1: eight hundred words on two separate days about these practices,

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Speaker 1: which I mean, Hey, it's great to see guys back

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Speaker 1: on the field doing stuff, but it's not live action,

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Speaker 1: it's not offense defense. Uh, that took some some work

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Speaker 1: by you. Well, you're just going on movement, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're going on athletic ability. You're going on guys that

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe there were some things that I think for

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Speaker 1: the example, you know, with Chris Westery, the cornerback from

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Speaker 1: I'd never seen him live, you know, so yeah six

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Speaker 1: to four and a half. Yeah, I was interested to

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Speaker 1: see how well he could really turn. And I knew

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Speaker 1: that I knew that, uh, that we would see that.

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Speaker 1: I knew that Chris Rashard and Christian and Greg Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Those guys would peddle these guys and turn them and

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Speaker 1: break them and stuff like that. So it kind of

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Speaker 1: things that these guys are going to have to work

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Speaker 1: on as we get to as we get going here.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Hyder was another one. Mitch Hyder's film Probably shy

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Speaker 1: would I say, Hid Hyatt, You're thinking R sounded like

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Speaker 1: you're from the East coast R on everything? Yeah, Hyder,

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Speaker 1: Pizzer Hyatt. But anyway, yeah, right. The thing is though

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Speaker 1: with him, you know, you can see some slow footedness

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Speaker 1: with him a little bit, some things that he's going

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Speaker 1: to have to work and why I was undrafted. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's some more questions about his strength. But

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Speaker 1: I need to keep an eye on this, you know,

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Speaker 1: as as they're doing athletic things, you want to be

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Speaker 1: they improved on this or is this something I think

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Speaker 1: very early in the campaign last year, we thought okay,

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams and we've talked about a bunch in the

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Speaker 1: show Connor Williams lack of strength. We saw that and

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Speaker 1: it was something that kind of was throughout the season

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Speaker 1: that he had to develop. So these are just little

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Speaker 1: things that you can you can't pick up when you're

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Speaker 1: watching and comparing Mitch Hyatt and Connor Williams. Okay, look

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Speaker 1: at the age of both of them, twenty one, twenty well.

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Speaker 1: Hyatt turn twenty two on February sixth, right, very young,

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Speaker 1: especially concerned the fact he's a four year starter at Clemson,

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Speaker 1: got down he turned twenty two. What's today today? He

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Speaker 1: turned two days ago. Yeah, and you know what one

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Speaker 1: offseason in the weight row, Yeah, did him wonders? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because if you've seen him now, Mickey and I saw

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Speaker 1: him at the training table yesterday. Much different looking guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And Scott shoulders a back and arms the word out

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Speaker 1: the off season. The work he's doing in the program

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Speaker 1: good for him. Connor McGovern turns twenty two on November third.

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Speaker 1: I mean remember the time when when offensive lineman coming

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be the great EXPERI yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting when it's funny, when they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: He's gonna again, it's all those guys, because this is

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Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna see. I thought. One of the

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Speaker 1: guys that changed my impression on him was Tony Pollard.

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Speaker 1: Just the talk of him about everybody describing what he

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Speaker 1: noticeably smaller than Zeke Elliott and Pollard's you know, like

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Speaker 1: first practice. So yeah, I don't think they think it's

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Speaker 1: something serious. And Todd Archer's got something this morning. He

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Speaker 1: the rookies doing now? This week here, ever, we had

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Speaker 1: Wooden coached his boys back in depth. By step. Well,

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Speaker 1: and you can watch, you know where guys are lining

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Speaker 1: Stadium this season. You won't want to miss these exciting

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Speaker 1: matchups with the Giants the Eagles. Hey, the Giants and

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Speaker 1: schedule it is. And let's get into some scouting news

457
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys have lost some scouts that you know.

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Speaker 1: And these guys, the ones that I know, really good guys.

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Speaker 1: Something about scouts. They just seem to be good guys,

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Speaker 1: decent human beings at times, right at times. Yeats, which

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Speaker 1: one would you like to start with? I'd like to

462
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Speaker 1: start with Tom Siskowski. There you go. Yeah, I think

463
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Speaker 1: that Tom. You know, Tom was nice enough to come

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Speaker 1: by say he was moving on. Tom had a hell

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Speaker 1: of a run here with the Cowboys, got an opportunity

466
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Speaker 1: to most famous thing he's probably done is drafting or

467
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Speaker 1: helping to draft Larry Allen. We were talking about Larry

468
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Speaker 1: Allen junior. Well here's Larry Allen. His dad, Tom was

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Speaker 1: a big part of that. Tom West Coast scout did

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Speaker 1: a heck of a job then got to sit in

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Speaker 1: the big chair for a little bit too, And you know,

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Speaker 1: that's not an easy thing to do here. And Will

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Speaker 1: McClay has done a great job. Larry Layswell was my

474
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Speaker 1: old boss about did a nice job as well. But

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Speaker 1: it's it's not an easy thing to do. And I'm

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Speaker 1: really I'm happy that Tom. Tom's one of those guys

477
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Speaker 1: that feels like he's got a bigger calling somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Tom's a deeply religious man and when you talk to him,

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Speaker 1: he always talks about his faith and how important it

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Speaker 1: is to him, and he just he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: waste any more time. He wants to go out and

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Speaker 1: try and help some people if he can. And so

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Speaker 1: by all means, you know, I'm glad that he's, you know,

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Speaker 1: going to be able to do that. You know, he was.

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Speaker 1: He was a great guy to work with. I love

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Speaker 1: being around him. He's always had a positive attitude. He

487
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: was always great to argue with about players and discuss players,

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Speaker 1: and I wish him the very best. I consider him

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Speaker 1: a really, really good friend. Because of all the things

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Speaker 1: that we were able to do, and we didn't always

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Speaker 1: accomplish great things together, but I'll always respect the way

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Speaker 1: he handled his job, very professional in the way he

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Speaker 1: went about his business. Been here since nineteen ninety two,

494
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: so kind of almost my entire career covering the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: He's been in that scouting department, and you know, and

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Speaker 1: I think the thing that I don't know if people

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Speaker 1: knew that, but uh, you know, he coached for fifteen

498
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Speaker 1: years before he ever became to the Cowboys, and had

499
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Speaker 1: been at places like Arizona State and Oklahoma State when Pasca, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: He's from Medford, Oklahoma, was at Oklahoma State with Tony

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Speaker 1: Wise and Jimmy Johnson, and Miami with Butch Davis and

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Speaker 1: U n LV. So he's been around. And when he

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Speaker 1: stopped to tell me what he was that he was retiring,

504
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: he said he was just he was just kind of

505
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Speaker 1: tired of it, you know, and he wanted to have

506
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: fun and he wasn't sure that it was still fun.

507
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: And you know, he's been what several different roles here

508
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Speaker 1: Area Scout, a blessed O Scout Senior Personnel exec I

509
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Speaker 1: think was his last title, but five six years as

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Speaker 1: the scouting director kyled Scouting Director. So he's been and

511
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: wore a lot of hats for this organization. And the

512
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: good thing about Tom to me, he was always a

513
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: straight shooter. He he would tell you what he thought,

514
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Speaker 1: maybe to a fault in some circles in the organization,

515
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: but uh he was a straight shooter. And uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna I'm gonna miss seeing him. He was always

517
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Speaker 1: a trusted voice in that room for many many years.

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Speaker 1: As you guys said, Um, he stood on the table

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Speaker 1: for Larry Allen, she said, Brian. And my memory, one

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Speaker 1: of my memories of Tom, he's always really to me

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Speaker 1: as long as I've been here. But being in the

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Speaker 1: Seattle press box, oh five preseason opener they just drafted

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00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: to Marcus Ware and he had a big voice and

524
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: bringing to Marcus Ware too, and I'm Ware had just

525
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: a monster opener there. I think he had a strip

526
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: sack strip fumble and he's just pumping his fists in

527
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: the press box, you know, which you don't see that

528
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: often because it's mostly media in there. But I mean

529
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: that's validating, you know, a really important pick that they

530
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: had and this is a guy that's going to go

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Speaker 1: on to be a Hall of Famer two probably you know,

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00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at his bio here, and then we're talking

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00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: about Tom Siskowski here who is retiring after many years

534
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: as a scout where the Cowboys going all the way

535
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: back to nineteen ninety two. But you know, he was

536
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State, worked with Tony Wise, the offensive line

537
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: coach at Oklahoma State at the time, who of course

538
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: later became the Cowboys offensive lying coach. And then he

539
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: was at Wichita State, and then after that season at

540
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: Wichita State in eighty four, he went to the University

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Speaker 1: of Miami as a volunteer assistant coach, working with Butch Davis,

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Speaker 1: who is the defensive line coach at the U at

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Speaker 1: that time. You think about that decision for him, He goes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to work as a volunteer coach at the

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Speaker 1: University of Miami. And then a few years later what happens,

546
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: of course, Jimmy Johnson gets hired in Dallas with the

547
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys until five years basically after he made that decision,

548
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: he joins the scouting department with the Cowboys, which turns

549
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: into basically thirty years with the Cowboy Absolutely, I mean

550
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to take a chance, Yeah, you do,

551
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: especially in that lesson, especially in that profession. Yet it

552
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to do a job you don't. Some

553
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: of the great success stories are about these head coaches

554
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: now that started off doing something that was you're like, really,

555
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: you were a high school coach that you know, and

556
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: next you know they're head coaching of a very successful program.

557
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: And then two scouts have moved on to the Oakland Raiders,

558
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: Jim Abrams and then Walter Julia after thirty one years

559
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys thirty five and the NFL ass I

560
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm shocked at he's leaving the state of Texas because

561
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: he's been here his whole life. From sant Angelo University, Yeah,

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00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: San Angelo, and then you know, coached high school for

563
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: a while and then became able to scout. Yeah, he's

564
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: been here since eighty eight. Nobody is as hard on

565
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: Texas players as j Walter Jewelian. It's impossible to get

566
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: you see how many Texas players have been drafted Walter

567
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: Walter was one of those games in their awards. Yeah

568
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: he would. It could be Ricky Williams, it could be

569
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: it didn't matter, Sean Rodder, it didn't matter. He would.

570
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: He would fight you on these kids. I mean fight

571
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: you on him. And the thing about Walter and I

572
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: think with Walter is that I said this on Twitter

573
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: last night, someone asked me about Walter moving on, why

574
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: would he move? You know, we these pensions now that

575
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: we deal with and the years of service that we

576
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: deal with, and there's certain things that you can get,

577
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, the way the league takes your three best

578
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: years of earnings as a front office member, and so

579
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: he gets paid very well for three years stay with

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Then those will be the three years that

581
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: they that the League takes and averages out for him.

582
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: So and he's going to be the college scouting director.

583
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: I think Jim Abrams is that guy already. Oh I

584
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: thought that that's what Walter was going to. Jim's Jim's

585
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: a damn good scout too. He came from that forty

586
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: nine er group that was you know that back in

587
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Speaker 1: the day with with Bill Walsh and that and that bunch,

588
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: and Jim will do a fine job with with the Raiders.

589
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed visiting with him. But but yeah, Walter's

590
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: another one of those guys that we didn't have a

591
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: whole lot of success with him. Walter was a guy

592
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: that worked underneath Larry Lacewell. Uh, you know, he was

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00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 1: one of those Walter always was everywhere. I've never been

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Speaker 1: on a school call. Everybody didn't. Everybody in the in

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00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: the country knows Walter Julie. Walter Julife. Can go into

596
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 1: any college program and somebody there will know Walter Julife.

597
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: And that's that's a credit to him lasting this long

598
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: and what he has been able to accomplish. I'm happy

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00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: for him that he's going to get the opportunity. As

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00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: we again we get to the later in points in life,

601
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: we have to think about, Okay, how am I going

602
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: to set myself up at the end of this and uh,

603
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: And he is, in fact that he's going to do

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00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: it the right way here with the Raiders. Again, sorry

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00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: to lose him, but they'll find a way to move

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00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: to replace him and get somebody else in here that

607
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: can can help him out. I think he just wanted

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00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: to live in Vegas. Well, the beauty of it for him,

609
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: he can still live in Austin. He'll still live it

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00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: is not going to leave Austin exactly. Yeah. But was

611
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: it a year from now the going to Vegas? Yeah,

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00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: yea yeah, so yeah, Walter it'll be funny to see

613
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: him walking around the Combine and the Senior Bowl with

614
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: a different color hat on. That's gonna be weird. It's

615
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: been really weird. But but Walter's been He's you know,

616
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: he's a guy that's he's had his ups and downs.

617
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: We all have had our ups and downs. And again,

618
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: he's a guy that will battle tooth and nail for players,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's the thing you have to respect

620
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: about him the most. All right, let's go to the

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Speaker 1: phone lines. Let's go to Bronlow and Bermuda. You're on

622
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: talk and gentlemen, good afternoon. How are you guys doing good? Good? Okay,

623
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: I've got a question for you, um fifty fifty success

624
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are heaving with the offensive line. Malie

625
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: Collins is going to be a free agent next year.

626
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: He drafted McGregor um the center. You mean you're talking

627
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: about wild about wild Collins, right college loud. Collins is

628
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: going to be a free agent next year, right, right

629
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: if with him likely to sign a huge contract as

630
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: a free agent, we're lucky to get a third round

631
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: pick right in the in the contensatory, you would hope, yes,

632
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: right if a team in the playoff team loses a

633
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: left tackle, with the Cowboys be in a position to

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00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: to um trade Collins for a fresh rom picking return

635
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: fifty depths know that we have. Is that a possibility

636
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: Instead of bidding for next year to get a third

637
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: round compensatory pick, you can get a fresh round pick

638
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: and the move Comma Williams to tackle and and the

639
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: other corner will play at guard. Okay, okay, And I'll

640
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: also like to like to thank Bryan and his team

641
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: for an outstanding draft coverage. Thank you very much, appreciate

642
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: It's very kind of you say that. One of my

643
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: favorite countries in the world, by the way, Bermuda, Yeah,

644
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: right behind this one. Yeah, oh my gosh, what a

645
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: beautiful place. Yeah. But you know, to me, okay, this

646
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: is where I think he's going. He's trying to figure

647
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: out a way if you if maybe that's some may

648
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: maybe you get in a situation like the Cowboys did

649
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: with with having to get with Mauri Cooper. Maybe maybe

650
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: it's a team that is saying, you know what, you know,

651
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: we we'll give a first round pick for I think

652
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: that's your best ABU. If you want to make that move,

653
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: if you want to make that move. I think that

654
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a trade that happens. I

655
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a trade it happens early. But

656
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's one that if you did it, it would

657
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: probably have to materialize maybe a week or two into

658
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: the season, and then you kind of figure things out. Yeah,

659
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of questions from fans asking like, Okay,

660
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: if you think Lyle might leave in free agency next year,

661
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: do you go ahead and start giving Connor Williams reps

662
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: at tackle and all that, which to this point there

663
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: hasn't been an indication that they're going to do that

664
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: at this point. Um, we'll see at the OTAs, we'll

665
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: see Do you want to win? Are you yelling at

666
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: me or just throwing it out there? Do you want

667
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: to win? Are you gonna make all these changes on

668
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: the offensive line? I guess I'm just trying to how

669
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: does the team feel about Lyle Collins. I'm just trying

670
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: to answer the man questions they like, That's what I

671
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: was asking him, though, Do you want to win or

672
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: do you want to up a choice? Of course he

673
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: wants to win. Think they like Lyle Collins a lot.

674
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: I do think I do think at some point you

675
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: got to start looking at your roster and like how

676
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: many guys can we pay and will we be able

677
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: to keep him a year from now. I don't think

678
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: it's that they don't like Lyle Collins. I think it's

679
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: just something and McGovern pick I don't think was made

680
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: with that in mind. I think it was just it

681
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: was that whole blinking light thing. But by the way,

682
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: this guy offers a lot of depth. Travis Frederick is

683
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: coming off a pretty serious illness. Can't hurt, can't hurt?

684
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: To add position, would you take it? Would you take

685
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: a one right now for Lole Collins? Oh heck yes, okay,

686
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: but no ask me the other question. Would I give

687
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: up a one for Lyle count I? I I didn't

688
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: think anybody was free agent. I didn't think anybody will.

689
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: But look what Look what happened with Cooper. I mean,

690
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: look at that that you end up you're even having

691
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: to pay that you get one to pay had another

692
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: year thirteen million dollars. Yeah, and then the year another

693
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: year and say, well, no, it's not because he's not

694
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: a first round pick. You don't have the fifth year off.

695
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: He's a free agent next year I understand that, but

696
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying though that you're having to pay both

697
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: guys anyway, right, I mean, if you're training for you're

698
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna keep him, right, you're a tent probably is to

699
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: pay him, am I right? Yeah, you're not going to

700
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: training trade. That's the three yes, exactolutely right. Tackles are hard,

701
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: very very hard to come by. But you just said

702
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: you give a first you you personally would take it.

703
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: You would take it, but I wouldn't give it. Okay,

704
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Let's let's look at the cowboys angle here,

705
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: and that's what I think Rob is trying to do here.

706
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: I thought I wouldn't take it, like you just asked.

707
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: You just asked if we're trying to win, Yeah, okay,

708
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: to win, because now you're gonna have somebody playing right tackle.

709
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: But you just said you would take a walk, you'll

710
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: take a first round? Yeah, I would, but I wouldn't

711
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: do it. You're riding the fence. Now what is that?

712
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: What does that mean? I would exactly when somebody offered

713
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: me a first for him. Yeah, like you have to

714
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: shuffle the line anyway, But but how is that going

715
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: to affect what I'm trying to win this year. Here,

716
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: so here's the difference. Cooper, You're gonna just slide a

717
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: rookie in at left guard and a second yearsn't played.

718
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. Okay, I'm trying. I'm trying to

719
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: figure this. Shout. Here's here's the difference. The reason the

720
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: Raiders traded Amari Coop? What would what was the Raiders

721
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: the record when when they traded Amari Cooper they were

722
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: going down the tube, they were not good. Okay, yeah,

723
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: and so so if the Cowboys are in the same

724
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm saving Mickey, thank you. If the position, but his

725
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: question was his question was the question of the I

726
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: think that the question was you're not going to be

727
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: able to resign him. That's the question, not if you're

728
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: going down the tubes. The question was you're not gonna

729
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: be able to resign him, and would you take a

730
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: pick right now? But I think Mickey is now backtrack

731
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: and said, wait a second, I would not take it

732
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: if I was in the Raiders position with the Cooper.

733
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: If I'm going down the tubes leading up to the

734
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: trade deadline, sure, I'm taking a one for Lyle Collins. Yeah,

735
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: if you're if you're trying to line up and go

736
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. I want Lyle Collins on my

737
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: team right mine would give up a one? I don't know.

738
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: It's just as Brian says, if there is a team

739
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: who really likes Lyle Collins and maybe they've had discussions

740
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: with his a gent they know they can sign him

741
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: long term, they think, yeah, that is the opportunity to Yeah,

742
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: he took a lot of greed for taking a giving

743
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: up a one for Amari Cooper. Who would you have

744
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: done that? I don't. I think we did some shows

745
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: where you said you wouldn't have done that. I said

746
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: I'd give up a second. Okay, see, and by the way,

747
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: gave up a one. Stephen Jones told us last week

748
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: they have gotten calls from teams asking about certain spots,

749
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: and he went on to say that we love our

750
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: offensive line depth, so maybe you can connect the dots there.

751
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: And they're not willing to do anything right now, but

752
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: they do have a lot of depth. There's Brian said,

753
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: all these guys that they've bringing in, these rookies, like

754
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: not all of them are gonna make the team. All

755
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got a third round pick who

756
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: you love, you got Joe Looney is a nice interior

757
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: backup guy, assuming Travis is going to be good to go,

758
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: and Travis has said, you know, I need to get

759
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: into training camp and put the pads on and see

760
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: where I'm at. I will say this every time we

761
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: always talk about how much depth there is at a spot.

762
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Depth is fleeting. Things happened. Who knew what this? What

763
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: would happen to Travis last year? And give him so

764
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: much credit for working his way back, but you just

765
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen. Who's the one player

766
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: you have it has some value on your roster right now?

767
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: If you could trade the one player, like from a

768
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: position of depth and just who who is that guy?

769
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them in terms of trade value. Guys,

770
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: you guys, you there's no value, can't no value. There

771
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: no value with Lewis. I mean who else you gonna

772
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: who else you willing to move? I mean to get

773
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: something significant, know what I mean? The second round pick?

774
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: Maybe that you're that you'd be willing to move. Yeah,

775
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't know that there is

776
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: because now that you're past the draft, I mean, what's

777
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: it's I kind of now I'm I'm actually understand what

778
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of Mickey's saying, Like, now that the

779
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: draft's over, now you're getting picks for next year, when

780
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: you're going to try to win a Super Bowl? Like,

781
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: what does that really help you right now? But if

782
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: you feel good about your depth and you know you're

783
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: not going to resign the guy, what do you know

784
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: about your depth on the offensive life you know that

785
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: Connor Williams could play. I've seen Connor Williams play tackle

786
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: at a high level. I think that would do it. Eventually.

787
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: That would be the only reason he's gonna get ready

788
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: to coach in twenty twenty. He's gonna be your right tackle.

789
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Frederick is not playing football. Who's playing center? Okay, well,

790
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: there that the kid you drafted from Penn State. Well,

791
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: then who's playing guard? Well, then that Joe Looney could play.

792
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: Joe Looney. Joe Looney played sixteen weeks Wally my offensive

793
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: line that was considered the best offensive line. And that's

794
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: not football at one point when we finish, okay, uh

795
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: is no longer it's just average. The I think the

796
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: only one move, No, you've made two moves, three moves.

797
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: If Frederick can't play. You trade Collins and now you've

798
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: got to put a rookie at left guard. You got

799
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: to put a second year guy at right tackle, and

800
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: now you're back with Looney at center. You're gonna win

801
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: with that. But you take the first round pick, though

802
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: he would know if you could keep him into the

803
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: first If I was three and five at the halfway point,

804
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: I might consider it. Okay, God do what yee? I

805
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: think the only way that the Cowboys would ask me

806
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: if I would do it today, I'm with you. I

807
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it either. I was trying to line up,

808
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: but I don't have I don't have the knowledge that

809
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys coaches have about those offensive linemen. If they're

810
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys coaches think that Connor Williams is a

811
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: better right tackle than Lyle Collins is, and that Connor

812
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: McGovern can go in and play and start it left

813
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: guard for you, then I still hesitate because of what

814
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: Rob's talking about. Injuries happen in this league and Fleming too,

815
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm just saying there's depth, Mickey, I'm just

816
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: saying there's death but this team. But that's the beauty

817
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: of the third round. Compensate is getting the compensation too.

818
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: You like Flemming. They went two and oho with him

819
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: at left tackle, absolutely, tight end and back pocket almost

820
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: every place. I don't know. Well, okay, go try that. Okay,

821
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: they might have to next. It was so good in

822
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: New England, said, you know, well, we don't need to

823
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: sign him. I played a super Bowl Mickey, I know

824
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: he did. That's the miracle. Stop it. Wow. Okay, we're

825
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,759
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826
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849
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00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,200
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883
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: do you have to use the number six or do

884
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: you spell out six? You use the number six? Pick six?

885
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: Pick six? Okay? Is that like one of those lottery

886
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: tickets you can buy scratch offs? Yeah, that's slattery. We'll

887
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: do that. Read here next week, probably join the rotation.

888
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: Six is a football reference, but uh yeah sure, yes,

889
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: yes sir, Thanks Kim, I didn't know again, Yeah, okay,

890
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: that horse racing. Can you pick six? Yeah? I wish

891
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: I could have the other day. We haven't seen a

892
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: lot of pick six is around here Byron Jones. The

893
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: last one I believe in Washington the rain. Maybe, yeah,

894
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: didn't in that game. And that's a long time ago,

895
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: sounds right? Was it? Two years ago? He's playing safety?

896
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: Three years ago? Two years ago? Two years ago? Jalen

897
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: Smith was a fumble return. You want to trade him,

898
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: you want to win Byron Jones. What a damn winst

899
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: year contract Byron Jones. Yeah, he's coming off a hip procedure.

900
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: It's good walking around though, he does. He's fine, very good. Good.

901
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to Trey in Mississippi up next

902
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. Hello, Trey, how do you guys doing today? Good?

903
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: All right? Let me start off saying I love listening

904
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: to you guys, and I learned so much from y'all.

905
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: I have two things that I want to talk about.

906
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: The first thing is offensive speed. I can't remember a

907
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: time when we've had so much offensive speed on that

908
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: side of the ball, Even going back to the Miles

909
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: Austin days and days of those sorts, We've never had

910
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: multiple receivers that were sub for for guys, if I

911
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: can remember correctly. My next thing is Jeff Heaths. I

912
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: don't think he's much a weak link as a lot

913
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: of people talk about. People remember that hustle play he

914
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: made against Oakland out right before, right before the goal

915
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: on a lot of safeties aren't making that player even

916
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: putting in that effort. Also, if Aaron Rodgers drops that

917
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: ball on that sack in the playoffs, we're thinking about

918
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: Jeff Heaths in a whole different way. So I'm gonna

919
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: hang up and just listen to what you guys think.

920
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: He's been this team's interception leader for the past four

921
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: or five years. He makes plays. Evidently the coaching staff

922
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: agrees with you on your assessment. Jeff Heath. Yeah, they

923
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: were in no hurry to move on from him. No,

924
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: that'll be. That'll be for this draft. We'll think about

925
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: the day they had all those safeties sitting there and

926
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: they said, you know what, we're okay with Woods and

927
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Heath and Frasier and Alka, and you know, again, they

928
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: picked a kid. You know, they picked the Wilson kid.

929
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: We'll see if he can come in and help. Maybe

930
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: Wilson is a better version of Cavan, Frasier or Mate.

931
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. That's kind of where I think

932
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: this thing is going to is going to go. I

933
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: myself have always been a big, big Jeff Heath fan

934
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: because I think you have to have a safety that

935
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: plays with toughness. I think you have the safety that

936
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: plays with some intelligence, and I think he does both

937
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: of those. Is there's some things he's physically limited at it. Yeah,

938
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: I do think there's some things there but overall though,

939
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath does not kill you as bad as as

940
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: Cowboy Nation wants to believe. And we'll see again. Mickey

941
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: brought up a Donovan Wilson's name early in this campaign.

942
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: We'll see how well he plays once we get to

943
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: Oxnard and the pads come on and and see if

944
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: he can play with intelligence and toughness and all that.

945
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe they found him one there, which

946
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: was the fastest wide receiver core the Cowboys have ever had.

947
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good point by the caller. Um,

948
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: I got a proposal for you, miss, I'll let show

949
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: is it one with one of them? Gott include Bob Hayes, Right, yeah,

950
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: I think you start there wasn't there wasn't there like

951
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: a you know with the with the Alexander Wright group.

952
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: What was that? But he was well, I'm just saying

953
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: the fastest you said the fastest fo Yeah, fastest group

954
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: of wide receiver Michael Michael was not fast. So Michael

955
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: brings him down. Who else was it? Was Harper in

956
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: that group. He's not till ninety one. So Alexander Wright

957
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: was eighty nine, wasn't he he was? There was a

958
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: second round pick in ninety Okay, no, no, uh yeah,

959
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: second round pick in ninety yeah, after him, it did

960
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: Rocket and gal Away. Joey Galloway played again. That might

961
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: be a situation there early two thousands, they do, because

962
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: Galloway got hurt in ninety Rocket. Yeah, two thousand season

963
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: that played together. Yeah, Joey got hurt, but he got

964
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: hurt the first game. Yeah, I don't know that they

965
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: subtly played thousand and one together. Yeah, ninety nine to

966
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and one was Rockets time here, so so

967
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: they one. Terry Glenn offered a lot of speed. Terry Glenn,

968
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: he was here with Austin, right with Austin, well a

969
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: few miles. Wasn't started back there because Austin was a

970
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: free agent. No. Seven, Terry last year six and play

971
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: until Yeah, I propose we please, I propose nineteen seventy

972
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: one when the receiving Yeah, that's nineteen seventy because Hayes

973
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: didn't do anything in seventy one. Yeah, but he was

974
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: still fast. Yeah. Well, now that I look at it,

975
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, because Drew wasn't a burner. I'm sorry,

976
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, no, no, he's did a lot. Okay,

977
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: never mind seventy one, which was a Super Bowl season.

978
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: Your top two wide receivers were Bob Hayes and Lance Allworth. Allworth, right,

979
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: but Allworth Allworth, Okay, I'd look it up. All Worth

980
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: was a track star, running the one hundred and two

981
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: hundred twenty yard dashes in nine point six seconds and

982
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: twenty one point two seconds. Yes, okay, at Arkansas. So

983
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: that qualifies him as fast. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Conversation,

984
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. So there you go. I think

985
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: Bob Hayes counts is two. Yeah, that's right, Olympic speed.

986
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, you had to get a second one with him,

987
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: and then Bambi is good enough for mere you go.

988
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: And so with this, with this group, the two rookie

989
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: for agents they added can run about Jalen and John

990
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: VEYA Johnson, both of them. I don't think either one

991
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: of them went to the Combine, but on their pro

992
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: days fourth I was gonna say sub four four, So yeah,

993
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: four three nine and faster than Kyler Murray, their teammates

994
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: at in high school. At Allen, I knew you were

995
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: going to somehow tie this together. Two thousand yards worth

996
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: of passes from Kyler Murray and on three state championship teams.

997
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: So those guys can went to Notre Dame and then

998
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened after that, but wound up

999
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: at North Texas and that guy can talk. We ran

1000
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: an interview with him last night on CBS eleven and

1001
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: that guy's got personality on him, Jalen Guyton. And then

1002
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,959
Speaker 1: you talk about the confidence. Yeah, he's got a load

1003
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: of confidence too. Yeah. Any and now see if he

1004
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 1: can play played at North Texas those these last two years,

1005
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: and um, he could be a sleeper in that group. Yeah.

1006
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: Both guys had you know, sixth round grades on their board,

1007
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: so you know, right there, you're looking for the trades

1008
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: and what's the trades? The ability to run? But you

1009
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: watch Guidon play, and then I had a lot of

1010
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: chance to watch the Johnson played. Clio Telio had like

1011
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: three receivers that you had to study a couple of jobs.

1012
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: You really, yeah, you really had to study those guys

1013
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: because they were they were They did a nice up.

1014
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. The thing it was impressed about Gaytan

1015
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: was that ability, like he cut a lot of inside

1016
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: routes for in breaking routes and the next thing you know,

1017
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: is he's catching that ball, he is up the field.

1018
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he is accelrating. And I think that that's

1019
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: going to be his way of making this football team.

1020
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna have to come in here. And I don't

1021
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: know if we've talked about this, Maybe this is for

1022
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: another show another day. But of all these wider and

1023
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 1: we did a mailback question about that today. That's kind

1024
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: of why it brought it, why it brought it up.

1025
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: How that group's gonna shake Yeah, how that group is

1026
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: gonna shake down? Because you'd like to think that maybe

1027
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: experience will help these guys, but man, the talent of

1028
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: these two kids of Johnson and Gaydon might put a

1029
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: veteran wide receiver or two or two. I'm thinking about veteran.

1030
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a veteran guy like Lance Lenore. I

1031
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: mean veteran in a way who's been here for two

1032
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: three years kind of a thing. And when we talk,

1033
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean we talk went through it on the mailbag.

1034
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: And you've got obviously a Mari Gallop and Bob and

1035
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: then I think they kept six pretty much throughout the

1036
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: season last year. I might have to keep seven. Alan

1037
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: Hearns is coming off a major injury. Just keep in

1038
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: mind though, he's a steady presence there for them because

1039
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: he coaches love him. He's you know, he's a vet.

1040
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: He plays all three positions if he can get back healthy.

1041
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: Noel Brown has taken steps as a wide receiver and

1042
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: he helps on special teams. They like him. But again, yeah,

1043
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: these guys are going to be in competition. The draft

1044
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: pick last year, you know what, don't don't go to

1045
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: sleep on Devin Smith. Another guy he can run. We

1046
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: just second round pick. That was a guy at Ohio

1047
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: State that was a track champion in the state of

1048
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: What about speed right there? Competition Maybe not Bob Hayes

1049
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: or Land towards speed, but there's a lot of speed there.

1050
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: So somebody at the end of that deal, they're they're

1051
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: not gonna be here. We didn't even mention Tavon Austin. Yeah, yeah,

1052
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: m if they use it the right way. All right,

1053
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: let's go back to Mississippi. It's amazing how many cowboys

1054
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: fans are in Mississippi. Chris in Mississippi. You're getting out

1055
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: of his car. Hey, how are y'all doing? There? We go? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there we go, Chris, all right, be safe out there.

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Speaker 1: I've got two questions for y'all, one on just the

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Speaker 1: general topic, the other one spot Brian brought us. And

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Speaker 1: then I have a comment. Okay, all right, I want

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Speaker 1: to say I want to say this. I want to

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00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: ask a question when I've never heard it and I've

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00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: never even seen anybody suggests that Dak said that he

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Speaker 1: wants to be the highest paid quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think that he deserves. Could be a pretty good quarterback,

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00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: could be a pretty good paid quarterback because of what

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Speaker 1: he's done on the field. And the other question is

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Speaker 1: is Brian, I know it's early and this, that and

1068
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: the other, but you're an LSU fan. I want you

1069
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: to watch this Mississippi State defense again. Miss next We

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00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: absolutely we have some really, really really good players. You

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00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: always have good defensive players. I get tired of seeing that.

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00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: I get tired of hearing them damn cowbells when we

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00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: play down there. Yeah no, you got no. Probably have

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00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: one of the better linebackers in the SEC this year,

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00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, what's his name? His name is Earl

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Speaker 1: Thompson Junior. Earl Thompson Junior. He is going to be

1077
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Speaker 1: a very very high draft pig because He is very smart,

1078
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: physical and a very good player. Bill is starting a

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00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: new page in the Green notebook. That's try Earl Thompson

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Speaker 1: Junior is my first entry in the notebook. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that was for Brian. Now, did you have another comment

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Speaker 1: you wanted to make, because we're up against the clock

1083
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: and we'll and we'll address your other stuff here. I

1084
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: heard exactly what you said about Jeff he and I

1085
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: want to caution cowboy fans and one thing, remember that

1086
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: we're paying big money to some of these other people. Yeah, Jeff,

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00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: he is a very certain, certain serviceable option for what

1088
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: money we can probably pay him compared to what we

1089
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: can pay somebody else for the rest of the rest

1090
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: of his career. And people need to think about that.

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00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we get a big name safety, we're gonna

1092
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: have to pay him big money or he's gonna be gone.

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00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: And Jeff, Jeff Heath is on a four year, seven

1094
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: point seven million dollars deal inspires this year. There's a

1095
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: wise man driving that. But Chris, I think someone is

1096
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: at those truck stops is feeding you a line about

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00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: Dak wanting to be the highest paid quarterback. He hasn't

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00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: he said, he hadn't heard it. Oh he hasn't. Dak

1099
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Speaker 1: hasn't stay on it, all right, very good. Yeah, as

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, Yeah, yeah, he's right about Mississippi State.

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00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: My gosh, just watching that film last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: the rush end, the defensive tackle, I mean, the safety,

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00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 1: that's a defensive and the defense was not the problem

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00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: at Mississippi State. You know, they just needed more consistent

1105
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: play from the quarterback and they would be just fine.

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Speaker 1: I hate playing there at Starkville. God bless, it's loud.

1107
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: It's those bells. It's uh, fans are just all over you.

1108
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: It's some little small stadiums, you know, you kind of

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00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of big from the from the road.

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Speaker 1: I've driven by it, haven't. Yeah, fans, The fans are

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00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: on top of you. That's the problem. God bless, go away.

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Speaker 1: I still look at that if you can find it

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Dak Prescott's last game, big Bull at Starkville

1114
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: where he was walking making the dog walk or whatever

1115
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: it is they call it, from the bus or from

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00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: the dorm to the stadium, and there were people lined up,

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00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: it had to be. It looked like for a mile

1118
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: they were come that sec But this this was. This

1119
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: ain't the Big Twelve. Okay, it's because you guys don't

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Speaker 1: play any defense in the Big Twelve. That's okay, don't

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00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: worry about it. Can you imagine the lines for Baker

1122
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 1: Mayfield or Kyler Murray? Do we have that? You're gonna

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00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: love it? A line up? And there's been plenty of

1124
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: lineups in Oklahoma. There all kind of lineup. They all

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Speaker 1: gotta get Swinzer on the show sometimes with the next

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Speaker 1: to it. Have they have they built the statues the

1127
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: for them? Guys? Uh, there's gotta be a statue for

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Speaker 1: Dak very soon. I told you that story real quick.

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Speaker 1: If I can't know where that we're past. But but yeah,

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Speaker 1: when after he left, Mississippi State scouts were going back

1131
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: in there and they were going, we're all the players,

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00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: we're all we're They figured out it was Dak Prescott,

1133
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Speaker 1: the one that was That team was ranked number one

1134
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: the country for several weeks and you know, had to

1135
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: finish the way they did. It was really off a

1136
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: lot of it because that quarterback. Ye, because all the

1137
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 1: scouts were like, whoa where all these players? You guys

1138
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: are taught? They haven't been the same since they've been

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: the same since the number one in the country with

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Speaker 1: dak as the quarterback. All right, It'll be an Ota

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Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys next Tuesday, The Star. This has

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