Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Real
Speaker 1: Time Crime. I'm your host Lee Lamar and my little
Speaker 1: social Sure already, that's enough love that for me. I've
Speaker 1: been on my ask for a week with some mystery illness,
Speaker 1: which is really a true crime that we should be exploring.
Speaker 1: But my little social studies. Who do I have with
Speaker 1: me here today? But my friend, oh, my my real friend. Wow,
Speaker 1: all right, I mean listen, this is the definition of progress.
Speaker 1: My Real Time Crime friend Dmitri was gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: was one of some of the best of my life. Okay,
Speaker 1: for a second, I know, and no one can see Dmitri,
Speaker 1: But um, Dmitri looks like he's wearing earrings from that
Speaker 1: would have been cool if you bought them at Hot
Speaker 1: Topic in But they're actually does earphones anymore? Oh? I
Speaker 1: mean never mind, huh huh um. Look, look, we don't
Speaker 1: judge here at Real Time Crime, Dumitry. We let you
Speaker 1: be you. I get my accessories where I get them,
Speaker 1: and that's nobody else's business. I also want to say
Speaker 1: I got a lot of messages from people being like, wait,
Speaker 1: you have a boyfriend, and I'm like, yeah, how did
Speaker 1: you find out? On the podcast. That's what a podcast does.
Speaker 1: It informs people of things. Do you mean what you mean?
Speaker 1: Friends of yours? Yeah, friends who haven't like chatted with
Speaker 1: in a while. Um, so, friends who haven't chatting with
Speaker 1: a while. I'm sorry that I should have send out
Speaker 1: a carrier bridge into everyone because it is not like
Speaker 1: public public. It's public, but it's not. I haven't like
Speaker 1: posted aggressively about him on social media, and that's because
Speaker 1: my friends I posted on him, posted on him. I
Speaker 1: posted about him like twice of my story and lost
Speaker 1: like two thousand followers. It's like, I just met this guy,
Speaker 1: you know, but I've had my Instagram following for a
Speaker 1: way longer. So who am I going to be loyal to? I? Oh,
Speaker 1: I hope he's not listening, kidding very much in love
Speaker 1: with him? WHOA, there's a Can I have that as
Speaker 1: a social club? Yeah, I'm I'm going in London next week,
Speaker 1: so we'll be together again, and I'm sure you'll I'm
Speaker 1: sure you'll get some since we're all social suits here,
Speaker 1: you will be able to piece together where I am
Speaker 1: and who I'm with on my social media. Yes, And
Speaker 1: I think that the people that benefit the hierarchy of
Speaker 1: benefiting from this relationship are obviously you and Adam. Then
Speaker 1: I think me because I'm really enjoying it. And then
Speaker 1: I think I gotta tip the cap to UM the
Speaker 1: Um the comedy clubs in London because you're going out.
Speaker 1: You're there, aren't you? I am, I'm I'm performing there.
Speaker 1: I'm performing my hour there, and then I'm going to
Speaker 1: Edinburgh and performing my hour there. They're really excited about it. Um.
Speaker 1: But also, let me just say something about healthcare in America.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a real time crime because we just
Speaker 1: made a crazy turn. No no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I just want to say this. I have been very
Speaker 1: sick for the last week. Like my favorite went all
Speaker 1: the way to a hundred and three. I felt like
Speaker 1: I was going through menopause. I got like an early
Speaker 1: glimpse into it. I was like, I'm having hot flashes,
Speaker 1: like no, I'm hot, no cool, No, I'm hot, swatch
Speaker 1: it on, swatch it off, swatch you itr off. No no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready for that life. That's number one. Number two. UM.
Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone on social media reached out
Speaker 1: to me that literally hundreds of people were like, I
Speaker 1: hope you're feeling okay. Also, f you to all the
Speaker 1: people who told me that they thought I had monkey pox.
Speaker 1: That's so annoying, Like, don't put that out there, don't
Speaker 1: put that energy out there. I never had monkey pox.
Speaker 1: I was never going to have monkey pox. Well, knock
Speaker 1: on wood, I saw that you posted in your story.
Speaker 1: You said, guys, I don't have monkey pox. Stopped suggesting that.
Speaker 1: So to me, that was, you know, open season on
Speaker 1: texting you and be like, how's the monkey pox? Very
Speaker 1: way right? But see the thing is that I don't
Speaker 1: seem cool enough to have been to an orgy in Europe.
Speaker 1: What come on, You're going to Europe all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're right, Oh my god, I am.
Speaker 1: Try some food in the European orgies totally. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just want to say this. I went to an
Speaker 1: urgent care and the doctor came out and flip flops
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, it can't be good. That
Speaker 1: was here and in the US, just around the corner,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I gotta get I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta leave. I can't I can't trust this man's opinion.
Speaker 1: He's wearing flip flops at work. Yeah, you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to wear open toed shoes at a restaurant, let alone,
Speaker 1: at at a at an urgent care. You know. He's like,
Speaker 1: once I figure out what's wrong with you, I'm heading
Speaker 1: over to a barbecue, So just move this along. Hey yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Well you guys, I don't know why I
Speaker 1: made that noise, and I'm very sorry. I think it's
Speaker 1: time for us jump into our hot topics for today,
Speaker 1: because I am burning. It's not hot flashes and hot topics.
Speaker 1: I'm honestly love about shaking my sutter off. It doesn't end,
Speaker 1: it hasn't ended, it's just ending. Well, you sound good,
Speaker 1: Like last week you told me after that you were sick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I gotta be honest, you were seemed pretty dialed in.
Speaker 1: You didn't sound of This is my curse and my gift.
Speaker 1: So anytime I'm like really sick and I'm going I'm
Speaker 1: at the e er and I'm like, I was so
Speaker 1: much pain, I can't stop, Like I just crack jokes
Speaker 1: because that's who I am as a person, and so
Speaker 1: they think I'm fine, I'm like, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: my personality. Like I just I'm not okay, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: so I really, I really struggle and I pushed through um,
Speaker 1: even severe illness, which this is not a good thing.
Speaker 1: This is just like I was taught to never take
Speaker 1: a break. I was thought you must fight through even
Speaker 1: extreme illness, um and never take time for self care.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm working on that. But moral of a
Speaker 1: story is I am getting better. Did you hear that
Speaker 1: heavy swell? Okay, guys, but you know who's not getting better? Okay.
Speaker 1: A California woman allegedly impersonated a nurse in order to
Speaker 1: abduct a newborn from a hospital room. Oh so, she
Speaker 1: was charged with a felony kidnapping after allegedly trying to
Speaker 1: abduct a newborn baby from a patient's room. According to
Speaker 1: a Riverside Conney sheriff, this twenty three year old woman,
Speaker 1: Ms Moron, pretended to be a newly hired nurse. She
Speaker 1: gained access to a medical unit where newborn infants were present.
Speaker 1: The suspect allegedly entered a patient's hospital room and identified
Speaker 1: herself as a nurse. While inside the patient's room, she
Speaker 1: attempted to take their newborn infant. She was confronted by
Speaker 1: hospital staff, who then notified authorities. Uron fled the scene
Speaker 1: without the newborn. Investigators tracked her down in Marina Valley,
Speaker 1: where she was rested and booked. Um, first of all,
Speaker 1: if she could just meander her way into a medical
Speaker 1: unit where newborns are present, there's an issue with the hospital.
Speaker 1: I feel like she's just like a secret shopper, you know,
Speaker 1: She's like, hey, I'm just gonna let you know where
Speaker 1: all your security flowers. Flaws are number one, the newborn sector.
Speaker 1: And a buddy who did that one time he stole
Speaker 1: from a store and he tried to return. He tried
Speaker 1: to return the item and when they busted and he goes,
Speaker 1: let me tell you why I did that. I'm a
Speaker 1: documentary filmmaker and I was testing the things to see
Speaker 1: how these stories handle these things. And you guys did good.
Speaker 1: You have a good system in place. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: not buying it, so and how yeah it's fine. He
Speaker 1: rebounded better life now. Um, but the balls to go
Speaker 1: into a hospital and like just be like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take someone's newborn baby. I'm gonna dress up as a nurse,
Speaker 1: take a baby and walk out like obviously not all there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I also think it's just like this is a Netflix
Speaker 1: movie in the making, you know what I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: that oh yeah, she's doing research for a Netflix movie.
Speaker 1: I just feel this is this seems like one of
Speaker 1: those things that you see that's not really real. It's
Speaker 1: like a the infamous baby apper when from hospital to
Speaker 1: hospital stealing only the most special child bo Celsius on
Speaker 1: at midnight on you know what I mean, Like, this
Speaker 1: is just why would you want to steal a baby?
Speaker 1: They're so annoying that you have to do, you have
Speaker 1: to care so much, like you got a feed that
Speaker 1: like did she just have a child? Does she a
Speaker 1: wet nurse? Because if not, she better have a lot
Speaker 1: of formula and there's a formula shortage, so like that's expensive.
Speaker 1: I don't know what she wants to do with this baby,
Speaker 1: but it's a huge responsibility. I mean, it's like you're
Speaker 1: stealing a responsibility that who steals jobs. Like most twenty
Speaker 1: three year old you're trying not to get pregnant to
Speaker 1: have a baby, and this one is going to take
Speaker 1: a baby. Listen, it's funny, it's not. I'm glad the
Speaker 1: reason we're joking about it. She didn't get away with it,
Speaker 1: the baby, but It's like that's crazy, Like, you're right though,
Speaker 1: why why is she stealing responsibilities? Also, like I'm sorry
Speaker 1: if I'm giving birth and people could just walk in
Speaker 1: and out of the room. Too many people are seeing
Speaker 1: my vagina more than usual, guards standing out, someone's a
Speaker 1: little lofty on her on her self image of her. Uh.
Speaker 1: I just think you gotta I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to come watch the show, you gotta pay a ticket.
Speaker 1: Like at least we're twenty five dollars, Like, hey, the
Speaker 1: cost of admission you can come on in. Is there
Speaker 1: a too drink minimum? Oh, there's a I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta your drink. Um. So I had four kids, right,
Speaker 1: and so the hospital that I was at is very
Speaker 1: like they have like a little baby low jack system. Right,
Speaker 1: so if you were if the baby got too close
Speaker 1: to the front door of the hospital or something like that,
Speaker 1: it would set off alarm. So I this sounds so
Speaker 1: just walked in in person in a nurse almost got
Speaker 1: away with it. Like that sounds pretty like. I think
Speaker 1: they need to update what they're doing there and be
Speaker 1: on a better alert. Yeah, it sounds like a wackass hospital.
Speaker 1: By the way, back to women, women be on alert
Speaker 1: don't have your baby there. Don't go to this hospital
Speaker 1: and have your baby there unless you want your baby
Speaker 1: to get possibly stolen. I don't know if there's a
Speaker 1: yelp for hospitals, but I would look into that also.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is like a cool reality show,
Speaker 1: like got you. We weren't really trying to steal your baby.
Speaker 1: Ha ha. I'm a cure fucked nowadays, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: But you know, go back to the balls of going
Speaker 1: into a hospital, dressing as a nurse or a doctor,
Speaker 1: and then trying what it means the method actress we
Speaker 1: find out later it's like Nolly a Portman. She's like,
Speaker 1: I just really wanted to know what it would feel
Speaker 1: like to pretend that I was going to steal a baby.
Speaker 1: You know, you know when you go to the grocery
Speaker 1: store and you have to say you have to use
Speaker 1: the bathroom, like you have to go back into like
Speaker 1: where the employees are where, like that's where the bathroom is.
Speaker 1: I feel so nervous if I have to do that,
Speaker 1: because I'm just like head down and you walk back
Speaker 1: where you're allowed to go. But it makes me so
Speaker 1: nervous to think that I'm walking back where I'm not
Speaker 1: supposed to normally be. So I don't know, man, Like
Speaker 1: my heart would be racing to walk into a hospital
Speaker 1: dressed as a doctor or a nurse and start doing ship.
Speaker 1: But I guess that's why crazy people are crazy people.
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny is that your heart races
Speaker 1: when you're literally going to the bathroom in the most
Speaker 1: low stakes possible situation ever. Yeah, I mean, listen, I
Speaker 1: never I never claimed to be a mastermind a criminal.
Speaker 1: But also, Tom Dream, sorry, where are you? Because you're
Speaker 1: not in your regular place today. I am not. I am.
Speaker 1: I'm up at the lake on vacation. I'm on a
Speaker 1: family vacation. But you know what, crime never sleeps oh boy,
Speaker 1: And speaking of crime never sleeping, neither to our stories
Speaker 1: about crim Okay, so is this one of those feverite spikes?
Speaker 1: Can you guys open the window and here? Okay, there's
Speaker 1: no Yeah. I feel like you've been in a coma
Speaker 1: and you're now just starting to come out of it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of being in a coma, Hey, hey, hey, we're
Speaker 1: skipping ahead, sir. Oh sorry, that was the one I
Speaker 1: was excited about. Okay, go into it, go into it. No, no,
Speaker 1: because this next one is ridiculous, and this actually gets
Speaker 1: me fired up. This one literally no puns. Speaking of
Speaker 1: being fired up, a Connecticut man pulls gun on woman
Speaker 1: who didn't thank him for holding the door. Honestly, should
Speaker 1: that should this? Does that? Thank you? Should have? And
Speaker 1: this is something that actually used to bother me a lot,
Speaker 1: because I am I'm a gentleman. Okay, I will hold
Speaker 1: the door for people. I will let people whatever it is,
Speaker 1: order first, whatever the thing that you can do. That's
Speaker 1: that's chivalrous. I do that, and you did. Used to
Speaker 1: bother me when I would hold the door and someone
Speaker 1: would walk through like I was. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm supposed to be holding that for them or
Speaker 1: like they have. All it takes is a simple thank you.
Speaker 1: Did I ever get to the point where I thought
Speaker 1: I should pull a gun on someone for not saying
Speaker 1: thank you? No. I think that's part of the the
Speaker 1: way the world is spiraling out of control right now. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I think it's just two words, thank you, show some gratitude, bitch,
Speaker 1: you know, or you're gonna learn the hard way. No,
Speaker 1: I mean this is, you know, like, where's your manners?
Speaker 1: Said Joshua Murray of New Haven was that family dollar
Speaker 1: store on Saturday afternoon when he became incensed over the
Speaker 1: impolite act. Mm hmm. So basically that's all that happened.
Speaker 1: And Murray alleged the whipped out of pistol during the encounter,
Speaker 1: fled and then was picked up. So so not only
Speaker 1: did he pull out the pull out the pistol to
Speaker 1: be like, yo, where's my thank you? I mean holding
Speaker 1: the door is a lot of f I mean that
Speaker 1: burns what like point two five calories, takes a lot
Speaker 1: of strength. He he then fled the scene because he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I pulled out a gun. And then
Speaker 1: he got picked up by officers. And when they opened
Speaker 1: the car door for him, did he say thank you?
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much. I appreciate you know what.
Speaker 1: That would have been fantastic if he didn't thanks guys.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It's very nice. As he gets into
Speaker 1: the cop car, I think he's in there like pushing
Speaker 1: his head down. Yeah, and then the jail cell um it.
Speaker 1: It's it's frustrating when when people don't say thank you
Speaker 1: for for doing little things because there's an air of righteousness.
Speaker 1: Um again, I think the gun is probably a tadbit
Speaker 1: too far. I'm luckily it was just that and it
Speaker 1: didn't go further than that. But you know, also on
Speaker 1: him the guys at the family dollar store looking for
Speaker 1: polite people like, probably not, it's not. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's high on the list. All right, just thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like there are a lot of ways that
Speaker 1: in modern society you just pull a gun on someone.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, if I'm on a first date
Speaker 1: and he asked to split the bill, just pull him
Speaker 1: the gun. I see. Uh who Yeah, Well, the truth
Speaker 1: is things are spiraling out of control. I speaking at
Speaker 1: first date. I saw a story that a woman is
Speaker 1: suing a guy ten tho dollars for standing her up
Speaker 1: on a date. How does that even happen? Well, because
Speaker 1: it costs eight thousand just to laser everything beneath her eyebrows. Sorry,
Speaker 1: then her clothes cost a thousand, I'm sure, and then
Speaker 1: from makeup and mhmm you just no, no, not from experience,
Speaker 1: you're just guessing. No, I don't shave, but um, yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: I understand it takes a lot of money to get
Speaker 1: ready for date. Did she take a private jet to
Speaker 1: go see him that he said he was going to
Speaker 1: pay for and he didn't pay her back. We don't
Speaker 1: have all the information, Dmitri. Is that the tenders on there?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but this is where we're going, Right,
Speaker 1: someone doesn't stand you up on a date, you feel
Speaker 1: entitled to sue them. Right, you hold the door for someone,
Speaker 1: which is your choice, and they don't say thank you.
Speaker 1: That does not mean okay, not well, and now I
Speaker 1: should scare the ship out of them or pull a
Speaker 1: gun on them or whatever it may be. Like it,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I it does frustrate me without
Speaker 1: without the thank you, but I don't think, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's giving with an expectation like this is the same
Speaker 1: thing where everything in life becomes transactional or that you're
Speaker 1: expecting something in return. Maybe he just really needed that
Speaker 1: thank you. I don't know, but and probably other stuff
Speaker 1: going on, right, but with with not to go heavy
Speaker 1: on this, but with gun violence the way it is
Speaker 1: now and everyone being like Second Amendment, everyone has the
Speaker 1: right to have a gun, not if that's what you're
Speaker 1: doing with it. Yeah, bringing us back home, So um,
Speaker 1: I just I go on these tangents that take us
Speaker 1: all of the strass heard and you're like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: what about reality? Yeah yeah, yeah, sorry back to the
Speaker 1: eight thousand dollar lazery. Go I'm sorry you're the one
Speaker 1: who brought up that story. Um, that's number one, number two.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that. Yeah, I'm actually I'm done.
Speaker 1: I'm complete. But this is why I like talking to you,
Speaker 1: because every time I think this is this is an
Speaker 1: open and shotcase. This is obvious, like why would someone
Speaker 1: do that? You're like, no, I get it. Pull a
Speaker 1: gun if you know, if he tries to steal some
Speaker 1: of your fries, like yeah, like did he mistake her
Speaker 1: for someone that might have had his money? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like you never know. M I
Speaker 1: think you would make a great defense attorney because you
Speaker 1: really start on the side of the criminal most times,
Speaker 1: especially if you could find a niche where you like
Speaker 1: a defense attorney but only for like hot criminals, like
Speaker 1: hot guy criminals. I think that would be like visits
Speaker 1: with all of my clients there it is, it's actually
Speaker 1: and it's win win, so whin win for everyone except
Speaker 1: for me because my therapy bill. Okay you guys speaking
Speaker 1: of therapy bills, Well, yeah, you feel like you've been sick.
Speaker 1: I know, you feel like you've been in a coma
Speaker 1: for a while and now maybe you're just waken up
Speaker 1: from it. A West Virginia woman woke up from a
Speaker 1: two year coma and identified her brother as the attacker
Speaker 1: who nearly killed her. Police say they found the fifty
Speaker 1: one year old Wanda Palmer when a name in an
Speaker 1: upright position on her couch with severe injuries caused by
Speaker 1: what appeared to be a hatchet or axe. Her brother
Speaker 1: was suspected after witness saw him at the scene the
Speaker 1: night had happened, but police didn't have enough evidence to
Speaker 1: make an arrest. After two years in a coma, the
Speaker 1: victim is now coherent but unable to hold full length conversations.
Speaker 1: When she woke up at the long term care facility,
Speaker 1: authorities asked her what she remembered about the night she
Speaker 1: was attacked. She said her brother did it because, quote,
Speaker 1: he was mean, relatable, My sisters really mean to me,
Speaker 1: and like I think if she had an ax, that
Speaker 1: would have been her weapon of choice. When I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I was like three, and she literally drove
Speaker 1: over me with her bicycle, which is basically like a
Speaker 1: lot of little axes that that. Yeah, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpack there. Um, I have a
Speaker 1: podcast about true crime, so um, what does she do?
Speaker 1: Tricks and real estate? She are you guys okay? Or
Speaker 1: do she still mean to you? Well, she's alive, We're
Speaker 1: not really close. That wasn't clear. It sounds like next question.
Speaker 1: Um okay, So okay, not a lot for not a
Speaker 1: lot for the cops to uh to get the brother
Speaker 1: one right, he was seen at the fit, he was
Speaker 1: seen there before and obviously we don't know all the
Speaker 1: details about what evidence was taken in all this not
Speaker 1: enough to get them. Now her waking up two years later,
Speaker 1: do you think is that enough to now charge this guy? Okay?
Speaker 1: First of all, miracle, Yeah, first of all miracles. Second
Speaker 1: of all, anything that she says after waking up, you
Speaker 1: just have to believe because it feels like God was
Speaker 1: like poop, I choose you to reset. You know, like
Speaker 1: this feels like a Jesus moment. You just take what
Speaker 1: she says for truth. I don't know, it would just
Speaker 1: be too weird for her to lie at this point,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think with with the
Speaker 1: couple of words, she can get out. You know, I
Speaker 1: think that she wouldn't want to spare it on someone
Speaker 1: who wasn't the person who tried to murder her. And
Speaker 1: you know also because look, even if it wasn't him
Speaker 1: and she had a grudge against him, he was being Well,
Speaker 1: that's my problem. I wish I wish that she I
Speaker 1: agree with you. She woke up from a comma from
Speaker 1: two years, Like she slipped into a comma after she
Speaker 1: got hit with a hatchet or whatever. Right, she wakes
Speaker 1: up two years later and says that it's him, so
Speaker 1: most likely him. The only thing I would have preferred
Speaker 1: was that the reason she gave was not because he
Speaker 1: was mean, because that sounds but let's translate that to
Speaker 1: something else. He's as sociopath. He's a psychopath, he's a narcissist.
Speaker 1: Maybe he has a pattern of abuse with other people.
Speaker 1: And that was just her way of saying it. I
Speaker 1: feel like, maybe, you know, she just woke up from
Speaker 1: a two year coma and she could barely get full
Speaker 1: sentences out, Like, let's give her the benefit of the
Speaker 1: doubt that maybe she meant more than just that. I
Speaker 1: get it. I would have preferred like, he's a fucking
Speaker 1: lunatic that would have held more more away for me,
Speaker 1: but not saying he didn't do what I'm assuming he did,
Speaker 1: and we can do that because we're not the authorities.
Speaker 1: I mean. The other thing too, is if she had
Speaker 1: just died, he probably would have gone away with it.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, it's like possible she doesn't
Speaker 1: remember it correctly. But I think that if you're an
Speaker 1: coma for two years, your brain is obviously super foggy,
Speaker 1: and so the memories that you have remaining are probably
Speaker 1: the deepest ones m and the truest ones create, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I feel like it's accurate. And babe, bitch, you're
Speaker 1: going to jail now. Do you think for two years
Speaker 1: he thought like she's never going to wake up. I'm
Speaker 1: probably getting away with this. Yeah. Yeah, I can't believe
Speaker 1: they kept her in life support, which makes me think
Speaker 1: that they're probably very wealthy. Maybe, but their westroot sounds
Speaker 1: here in a coma and all of that's it. That's
Speaker 1: kinda be exciting to all of a sudden be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know that person that's been taken up that room
Speaker 1: for two years. Yeah, they're awake and they're chirping like
Speaker 1: a Canary. If someone woke up from a coma for
Speaker 1: that long and and we got a notification and you
Speaker 1: know the main frame whatever that means. Like I'm contending,
Speaker 1: like I'm a hack. I would just show up in
Speaker 1: an alien soon and be like, welcome humans in the
Speaker 1: year is three thou? That would be so okay, one um,
Speaker 1: I gotta put in my will or whatever that I
Speaker 1: don't want you anywhere near me if I fall into
Speaker 1: slipping to Oacoma. But that is a brilliant idea though,
Speaker 1: to really have some fun with it, right, like you've
Speaker 1: been out for one and twenty years and just have
Speaker 1: like a video of like flying cars and shut Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like when Robin Williams comes out in Jamanji and
Speaker 1: he's like, what year is it to have fun at
Speaker 1: other people's expenses? This is real time crime and we
Speaker 1: are about to take a break, So don't commend you
Speaker 1: crimes or fall into a coma in between now and
Speaker 1: us coming back from the ad break, y'all. We'll see
Speaker 1: you in a minute. All right, you guys, this is
Speaker 1: real time crime. We're back, baby, Real time crime with
Speaker 1: Lee Lamar and Dmitri Oh. And they'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: how long was that out? He's no longer sometimes man
Speaker 1: must be like a decade, three thousand beers. Alright, So anyway, um, okay,
Speaker 1: you guys, our main story for today. Pretty cool if
Speaker 1: you ask me, so, dB Cooper, where are you now
Speaker 1: trending on Netflix? What is it about you ask? So?
Speaker 1: Netflix explores this fifty year old case surrounding the infamous
Speaker 1: plane hijactor Hi dictor m dB Cooper. On November one,
Speaker 1: a man going by the name Dan Cooper boarded a
Speaker 1: Northwest Orient Airline flight from Portland to Seattle, Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1: Years later, but right, it's a short flight, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a short flight. Yeah. Years later, Cooper became
Speaker 1: an infamous name and the most wanted man in the
Speaker 1: entire nation. Cooper, also known as the media epithet dB Cooper,
Speaker 1: successfully hijacked the flight after threatening a nearby flight attendant
Speaker 1: and demanding four parachutes and a hefty sum of cash.
Speaker 1: First of all, that's so cool. It's super cool. Like
Speaker 1: when you think about that's kind of like James Bond
Speaker 1: movie type of style, Like you hijacking plane, then you
Speaker 1: parachute out into the wilderness, but quickly, so it's a
Speaker 1: short flight from Portland to Seattle or whatever was What
Speaker 1: do you mean he demanded a large sum of money.
Speaker 1: Where's that coming from? Well, first of all, can I
Speaker 1: just say this is one So it's fifty years ago,
Speaker 1: which isn't that long ago? No, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: it's not that that long ago, which makes me think
Speaker 1: security and um safety was so bad back then. There's
Speaker 1: no way to find this guy who multiple offenses. Would
Speaker 1: I mean, this is so crazy, But okay, it's like
Speaker 1: you think that if you had a depiction of what
Speaker 1: the person looked like and he'd committed multiple crimes like this,
Speaker 1: that they would create a profile, they'd be able to
Speaker 1: figure it out. They'd have a passenger ledger, they do
Speaker 1: process of elimination. Like it just seems crazy that they
Speaker 1: never caught this guy. Okay, I know, and I think
Speaker 1: now in nowadays terms, I think it's insanely crazy. But
Speaker 1: I think now that you mentioned that, you go back
Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy one, which was before I was born.
Speaker 1: But you go back there and it's like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: someone parashutes out of a plane into the wilderness, right,
Speaker 1: you have to spread that message. You don't spread it
Speaker 1: like the way we do now with like phones and
Speaker 1: Twitter and this and that. So these people outside of
Speaker 1: that forest or ever may not be looking for something.
Speaker 1: So he very easily could have just walked out of
Speaker 1: there at one point and been on his way. It's
Speaker 1: not like all of a sudden the news spreads and
Speaker 1: everybody's looking out for him. Also, is this so crazy?
Speaker 1: But I always was under the impression that if you're
Speaker 1: on a plane and the door the door opens of
Speaker 1: the plane, that everyone gets sucked out, right? Is that
Speaker 1: true or false? No? I think that's true. But again short,
Speaker 1: who knows what kind of flight this was? I don't.
Speaker 1: It probably wasn't a giant, right, it seems like a
Speaker 1: much smaller flight where you know, they're just kind of
Speaker 1: open and close the doors. But where's the large sum
Speaker 1: of money coming from on a flight like that? Well,
Speaker 1: maybe if it's a small private flight like that, people
Speaker 1: are just maybe a lot of people flew with their cash. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean banking was different then, Yes, people weren't just
Speaker 1: like going a t M S right, So I guess
Speaker 1: a lot of people just said cash on them And
Speaker 1: that's true, And maybe he knew people on the flight,
Speaker 1: Like remember just last week, we were talking about a
Speaker 1: guy who was stealing ten thousand dollars worth of items
Speaker 1: from people on plane. So it's like people bring expensive
Speaker 1: things with them and money with them. And okay, so
Speaker 1: and especially if you're traveling abroad maybe or what you
Speaker 1: carry cash on you more so on flights than you
Speaker 1: would in your everyday life, because you want to have
Speaker 1: petty cash around, right, all right, So now that I've
Speaker 1: proved you wrong, we'll just keep moving forward. This is
Speaker 1: this is what I like. I throughout these these situations
Speaker 1: and you just debunk them and you solve them. And
Speaker 1: that's what that's what happens here, you know, a real
Speaker 1: social slop. Okay, So all those crimes were marked by intamy.
Speaker 1: Cooper himself became a media sensation, earning multiple references and artwork, music, films,
Speaker 1: and shows like Twin Peaks which I Love, and the
Speaker 1: Disney Plus series Low Key. The FBI has since opened
Speaker 1: an investigation into cooper his identity and present day whereabouts,
Speaker 1: but fifty years later, the question of who is dB
Speaker 1: Cooper still remains unanswered. Netflix's latest documentary, D Cute, dB Couper,
Speaker 1: Where Are You, attempts to make sense I imagine he
Speaker 1: just like, hey, I'm over here, just like hey, guys.
Speaker 1: Um attempts to make sense of these missing pebble pieces
Speaker 1: with new clues over the course of four episodes in
Speaker 1: any series introduces the investigator, sleuth, and journalists who have
Speaker 1: been working tirelessly to solve this mystery. I mean tirelessly,
Speaker 1: like Okay. Following his crimes, he became an American folk
Speaker 1: legend and so called quote unquote badass hero. Conspiracy theorists
Speaker 1: and fans alike praised his guts, he escape and endeavors
Speaker 1: with only heightened which only heightened his public yet unknown persona.
Speaker 1: This to me, the crime doesn't seem like they call
Speaker 1: it a hijacking. But he left the plane right. He
Speaker 1: didn't bring them somewhere else or hold anybody hostage, so
Speaker 1: it's probably a textbook definition of of hijacking. He took money, fine,
Speaker 1: but how much could it have been? I haven't seen that,
Speaker 1: but maybe it'll be in the Netflix show. And he
Speaker 1: demanded parachutes and he bombed us, so I get the
Speaker 1: the cult hero. You know the story is fantastic. I
Speaker 1: don't know that, and I'm sure the Netflix show will
Speaker 1: be because that's how these things happen. But I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that the FBI is like opening this because this
Speaker 1: is a most wanted guy. I think this is more
Speaker 1: like the FBI is like, no, that'd be kind of
Speaker 1: cool to solve. Well, apparently this was a commercial airplane
Speaker 1: and he was able to just drop out of it.
Speaker 1: It's like, do you think he was like ex military maybe?
Speaker 1: But it also if he's doing that, what he didn't
Speaker 1: take a parachute with him, Like he went up there
Speaker 1: in the demand. What if they were like, no, we
Speaker 1: don't have Well, how could he bring a parachute with him?
Speaker 1: How could he go through security with that? Well? I
Speaker 1: guess also like fifty years ago, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: very confused by a lot of things here. I mean also,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I I understand why people would
Speaker 1: still want to crack the case because it's only it's
Speaker 1: within a fifty year period and it's mysterious, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, there are probably still some people who are
Speaker 1: looking for Amlia Earhart and anything that's unsolved. People want
Speaker 1: to answers to period out. But we can also spend
Speaker 1: those tax dollars on getting me a doctor who's not
Speaker 1: wearing flip flops. It's not an either or. We could
Speaker 1: probably do both. I don't I don't think that we
Speaker 1: need too much tax dollars to get your doctors some
Speaker 1: fucking shoes to make you feel a little safer. Man
Speaker 1: just gonna pay less. You know this, Payless still open
Speaker 1: and today filed for bankruptcy. I don't know what I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows whatever? Okay, So, I mean the FBI never
Speaker 1: found the guy, right, so obviously they could never make
Speaker 1: the arrest. But do you think that he survived the phone?
Speaker 1: Probably he knew enough to do what he was doing.
Speaker 1: He knew enough to do so I imagine. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got a parachute, right, so I'm sure he just
Speaker 1: landed somewhere. And that's the fascinating part is what was life?
Speaker 1: You know fifty years ago? What did he do? Did
Speaker 1: he live in the wilderness? Did he come out and
Speaker 1: join society and just blend in. Did he go somewhere else?
Speaker 1: Like it is fascinating to wonder what became of him.
Speaker 1: This is a real Tom crue Is move. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: this feels like I'm watching a movie. It feels like
Speaker 1: a mission impossible type of stunt. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to be slightly off your rocker to do this and
Speaker 1: also a thrill seeker. And also like, this is the
Speaker 1: type of person to me that is like a high
Speaker 1: stakes gambler, you know, is able to function on no
Speaker 1: sleep as going from city to city, has casual sex
Speaker 1: all over. This is the part of the podcast when
Speaker 1: Leah falls in love with the criminal um TV. So
Speaker 1: if you're still alive, call me. So I wonder if
Speaker 1: he's on tinder um. Yeah, so he goes dB now
Speaker 1: goes by David Buster. That's when he used the money.
Speaker 1: That's why he stole the lifelong dream to start an
Speaker 1: arcade a chain arcade in arcade chain um it is
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a badass move. The whole thing is
Speaker 1: super cool and it's like, but how much did he
Speaker 1: plan in advance? Did he planned where he was going
Speaker 1: to jump out? Like all that? Because he had nothing
Speaker 1: but the money in a parachute, right, So if he
Speaker 1: lands in the middle of the wilderness, where's the food?
Speaker 1: Where's this? So it's fascinating and I don't know at
Speaker 1: what point he jumped out, but did they comb that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they calmbed the area, but I'll definitely check
Speaker 1: this out. I mean, you're going we don't have an answer, though,
Speaker 1: I know. I mean. The other thing is how much
Speaker 1: money did he ask for? Because because it must have
Speaker 1: been a planned there must have been someone on there
Speaker 1: that he knew would have a ton of money, because
Speaker 1: it was a empty sum of cash. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: a random flight. He probably there's probably I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll see in the documentary, which sounds very exhilarating
Speaker 1: to me. I'm gonna watch it as soon as we
Speaker 1: get off. But it seems like he had he knew
Speaker 1: someone was flying with a ton of cash, and he
Speaker 1: planned this out, and he had the expertise on how
Speaker 1: would have jump out of an airplane? And or maybe
Speaker 1: he didn't. Maybe this guy's totally bonkers, and like maybe
Speaker 1: he was just hit rock bottom and he owed the
Speaker 1: mafia a ton of money or like the cartel, and
Speaker 1: he was like maybe, I don't know, for parachutes will
Speaker 1: get me off the hook, I don't know, And then
Speaker 1: he's maybe or maybe this is his way of like
Speaker 1: drawing attention. If he was on the run from Save
Speaker 1: the Mafia, this is his way of drawing attention and
Speaker 1: then faking his death, but it does have a very
Speaker 1: Oceans eleven field to it. I agree with you that
Speaker 1: he probably knew someone was on there that had the
Speaker 1: money and this was his whole plan. But the other
Speaker 1: thing that um that field is that this guy in
Speaker 1: the picture of him from he's in a suit like
Speaker 1: it's total I love the theme. I feel like I
Speaker 1: needed to give you some background. I wanted to keep going.
Speaker 1: If that kept going, I would never Okay, well in
Speaker 1: that case, I'll stop. But yeah, no, he's wearing these
Speaker 1: like cool guy glasses in sea and his hair slicked back.
Speaker 1: That's pretty badass for you, Dan Cooper, where are you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a I mean he also look if
Speaker 1: he was like, let's say, at the youngest twenty when
Speaker 1: this happened, he'd be seventy now if he survived, he
Speaker 1: didn't look like he's twenty in this photo. You have
Speaker 1: any do you think they have any DNA that if
Speaker 1: they ever found a body they could be like they
Speaker 1: could test it. Then he he's all, this is okay,
Speaker 1: this is just like a DNA test. Turns out he's
Speaker 1: a hu. Listen. I think this is a This is
Speaker 1: a of story of image that has been enhanced, right,
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, his name is Dan Cooper.
Speaker 1: No off, So the Dan Cooper's out there, not very
Speaker 1: exciting name every ten minutes. Yeah, they got sunglasses, a suit,
Speaker 1: He hijacks the plane, demands money, takes a parachute, jumps out,
Speaker 1: and then they're like no, in order to make this now,
Speaker 1: we're naming him dB Cooper. Right, they give him like
Speaker 1: a cooler name. Why because there they is this something
Speaker 1: that was enhanced. I feel like there's more to this
Speaker 1: story than we think. I think there's more people involved
Speaker 1: in just dB acting alone. What's an inside job? I
Speaker 1: don't think you're wrong, and I'm very excited to just
Speaker 1: find out more. Yeah, I'm excited to find out more.
Speaker 1: I'm nervous to find out more. I am hoping he's
Speaker 1: alive and single. Are you nervous to find out? Adam?
Speaker 1: I hope you're not listening to this podcast. I love you, Okay, so,
Speaker 1: but you get I've had to leave you for a
Speaker 1: seventy year old criminal got jumped out of a plane. Like, yeah, Adam,
Speaker 1: step up your game. Yeah, he's got a ton of cash,
Speaker 1: this guy, and I'm sure he invested it well too.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be so funny if he did all of this, survived,
Speaker 1: lived to tell the tale, avoided the police, only to
Speaker 1: invest it improperly and start back at zero, that would
Speaker 1: be amazing. But this is what I want for you. See. Obviously, Adam,
Speaker 1: I love him and that's my first preference. But if
Speaker 1: you're going to go down the path of wanting to
Speaker 1: take criminals, I want you to be with more of
Speaker 1: like a dB Cooper than the guy that pulled a
Speaker 1: gun at the dollar store. Because someone didn't say thank you,
Speaker 1: that's what I want for you. Thank you. That's so sweet.
Speaker 1: And I think that this is an excellent place to
Speaker 1: end our final episode for the season. And you guys,
Speaker 1: did you hear that? Did me really cares about me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was the standards for me and TV. Like the
Speaker 1: whole season is an ark and at the very end,
Speaker 1: it's a real nice cliffhanger payoff. Let's just say this.
Speaker 1: We started with Teddy, we started with the Gabby Potito story,
Speaker 1: which was traumatic to the entire nation that that story
Speaker 1: just took us all by storm, and we started real
Speaker 1: time crime there on a very heavy note. I think
Speaker 1: you know, I was still trying to be myself, which
Speaker 1: means inappropriately infused humor random points, because it's my defense
Speaker 1: mechanism against feeling uncomfortable and burying emotions that make me
Speaker 1: feel sad or confused or heard or scared. And then
Speaker 1: thank you, Um well they SAIDs what my therapist told me.
Speaker 1: And then you know, she's like, have you ever considered
Speaker 1: not deflecting with humor? And I was like, huh no, so,
Speaker 1: um yeah, why would I do that? No? Thank you though, um,
Speaker 1: you know, and then we slowly got into some funny
Speaker 1: hot topics, crazy hot topics. We've talked about murder mysteries
Speaker 1: that have never been solved. We've talked about a lot
Speaker 1: of cases that have been happening obviously in real time.
Speaker 1: We've watched criminals die on our watch. We've seen criminals
Speaker 1: come and go and adel V She's gotten n f T.
Speaker 1: I bought it. I bought into the crime, you guys.
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I just want more access to Anna,
Speaker 1: I want more information. I'm really just mad she was
Speaker 1: never on our podcast. And it's been a real roller coaster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I like to think, um that we've solved a
Speaker 1: lot of crimes. Don't go back and check because we
Speaker 1: don't need to fact check on that, but I like
Speaker 1: to think that we did. Um we and like you said,
Speaker 1: we did see a bunch of them conclude, like the
Speaker 1: Gabby Potito case. We started, like you said, and that
Speaker 1: was one of those who are like, we may never
Speaker 1: have answers to this. We got answers to that. And
Speaker 1: it's funny that we're ending the season with D. B. Cooper,
Speaker 1: which is fifty years with no answers. I love these stories,
Speaker 1: but they drive me nuts thinking we'll never know, like
Speaker 1: deathbed confessions, you stuff like that. I always like some
Speaker 1: sort of bow on my crazy story. So it's nice
Speaker 1: that we we do get them, and that kind of
Speaker 1: gives me hope for some of these. But that's why
Speaker 1: keeps true crime so interesting, and that's what keeps us
Speaker 1: digging for answers because I don't know about you, but
Speaker 1: I'm a very black and white thinker, which doesn't really
Speaker 1: work great for relationships. But when there's a question mark
Speaker 1: or there's a mystery where there's something that's unsolved, I
Speaker 1: need to have the hard facts. I need to see
Speaker 1: the answer. I cannot just believe that everything's okay. I
Speaker 1: cannot just believe that you know, you know, someone will
Speaker 1: get their justice in the spiritual realm. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: I need to know who did it when? How? Why
Speaker 1: the motive is always so important to me? Like, and
Speaker 1: this is with a lot of different things, right, It's
Speaker 1: it's just in life. I don't like a lot of
Speaker 1: gray area. I need to see. And this is why
Speaker 1: a lot of my relationships and so so dramatically because
Speaker 1: instead of just ending it when I'm like, oh yeah, see,
Speaker 1: like this is a psychle I could just end it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll write it till the wheels fall off,
Speaker 1: until I get all the way to the point where
Speaker 1: I know you're cheating on me because I caught you
Speaker 1: red handed, you know, but all the other things leading
Speaker 1: up to it, the clues weren't good enough. Um no, No,
Speaker 1: I need to complete the case right and then I
Speaker 1: like people that want to do that. That's why I
Speaker 1: appreciate O. J. Simpson and how he's looking for the
Speaker 1: real killer. That's the type of stuff we need. Propacana
Speaker 1: hasn't been the same since. But I really think, I
Speaker 1: really think that I am. I'm gonna take uh a
Speaker 1: lot of time. There's a there's a sentence that will
Speaker 1: come at some point. It it's not there yet because
Speaker 1: just like this podcast, it's a taking a quick pause.
Speaker 1: This has been an extraordinary first season of Real Time Crime.
Speaker 1: I love all my social studs very much. We've very
Speaker 1: much enjoyed talking about all these different wild cases. And
Speaker 1: thank you for falling around my tragic love life which
Speaker 1: actually came to a pretty cool conclusion that wasn't open
Speaker 1: and shut case. Also, the season is not ending on
Speaker 1: that like stay tuned or to come. Yeah, I'm going
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Speaker 1: as I get off here, I'm jumping right on your
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Speaker 1: I mean, but I am home now, and it's just
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Speaker 1: So uh, y'all, this has been a wonderful first season.
Speaker 1: Thank you for blessing me with your ears. Thanks for
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