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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Real

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Speaker 1: Time Crime. I'm your host Lee Lamar and my little

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Speaker 1: social Sure already, that's enough love that for me. I've

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Speaker 1: been on my ask for a week with some mystery illness,

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Speaker 1: which is really a true crime that we should be exploring.

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Speaker 1: But my little social studies. Who do I have with

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Speaker 1: me here today? But my friend, oh, my my real friend. Wow,

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Speaker 1: all right, I mean listen, this is the definition of progress.

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Speaker 1: My Real Time Crime friend Dmitri was gonna be honest,

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Speaker 1: was one of some of the best of my life. Okay,

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Speaker 1: for a second, I know, and no one can see Dmitri,

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Speaker 1: But um, Dmitri looks like he's wearing earrings from that

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Speaker 1: would have been cool if you bought them at Hot

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Speaker 1: Topic in But they're actually does earphones anymore? Oh? I

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Speaker 1: mean never mind, huh huh um. Look, look, we don't

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Speaker 1: judge here at Real Time Crime, Dumitry. We let you

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Speaker 1: be you. I get my accessories where I get them,

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Speaker 1: and that's nobody else's business. I also want to say

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of messages from people being like, wait,

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Speaker 1: you have a boyfriend, and I'm like, yeah, how did

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Speaker 1: you find out? On the podcast. That's what a podcast does.

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Speaker 1: It informs people of things. Do you mean what you mean?

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Speaker 1: Friends of yours? Yeah, friends who haven't like chatted with

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Speaker 1: in a while. Um, so, friends who haven't chatting with

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Speaker 1: a while. I'm sorry that I should have send out

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Speaker 1: a carrier bridge into everyone because it is not like

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Speaker 1: public public. It's public, but it's not. I haven't like

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Speaker 1: posted aggressively about him on social media, and that's because

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Speaker 1: my friends I posted on him, posted on him. I

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Speaker 1: posted about him like twice of my story and lost

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Speaker 1: like two thousand followers. It's like, I just met this guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, but I've had my Instagram following for a

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Speaker 1: way longer. So who am I going to be loyal to? I? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I hope he's not listening, kidding very much in love

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Speaker 1: with him? WHOA, there's a Can I have that as

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Speaker 1: a social club? Yeah, I'm I'm going in London next week,

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Speaker 1: so we'll be together again, and I'm sure you'll I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you'll get some since we're all social suits here,

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Speaker 1: you will be able to piece together where I am

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Speaker 1: and who I'm with on my social media. Yes, And

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Speaker 1: I think that the people that benefit the hierarchy of

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Speaker 1: benefiting from this relationship are obviously you and Adam. Then

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Speaker 1: I think me because I'm really enjoying it. And then

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Speaker 1: I think I gotta tip the cap to UM the

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Speaker 1: Um the comedy clubs in London because you're going out.

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Speaker 1: You're there, aren't you? I am, I'm I'm performing there.

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Speaker 1: I'm performing my hour there, and then I'm going to

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Speaker 1: But also, let me just say something about healthcare in America.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a real time crime because we just

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Speaker 1: made a crazy turn. No no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say this. I have been very

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Speaker 1: sick for the last week. Like my favorite went all

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Speaker 1: the way to a hundred and three. I felt like

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Speaker 1: I was going through menopause. I got like an early

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Speaker 1: glimpse into it. I was like, I'm having hot flashes,

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Speaker 1: like no, I'm hot, no cool, No, I'm hot, swatch

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Speaker 1: it on, swatch it off, swatch you itr off. No no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready for that life. That's number one. Number two. UM.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone on social media reached out

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Speaker 1: to me that literally hundreds of people were like, I

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Speaker 1: hope you're feeling okay. Also, f you to all the

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Speaker 1: people who told me that they thought I had monkey pox.

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Speaker 1: That's so annoying, Like, don't put that out there, don't

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Speaker 1: put that energy out there. I never had monkey pox.

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Speaker 1: I was never going to have monkey pox. Well, knock

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Speaker 1: on wood, I saw that you posted in your story.

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Speaker 1: You said, guys, I don't have monkey pox. Stopped suggesting that.

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Speaker 1: So to me, that was, you know, open season on

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Speaker 1: texting you and be like, how's the monkey pox? Very

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Speaker 1: way right? But see the thing is that I don't

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Speaker 1: seem cool enough to have been to an orgy in Europe.

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Speaker 1: What come on, You're going to Europe all the time.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're right, Oh my god, I am.

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Speaker 1: Try some food in the European orgies totally. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say this. I went to an

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Speaker 1: He's wearing flip flops at work. Yeah, you're not allowed

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Speaker 1: over to a barbecue, So just move this along. Hey yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I am burning. It's not hot flashes and hot topics.

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Speaker 1: I'm honestly love about shaking my sutter off. It doesn't end,

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Speaker 1: it hasn't ended, it's just ending. Well, you sound good,

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Speaker 1: Like last week you told me after that you were sick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta be honest, you were seemed pretty dialed in.

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Speaker 1: You didn't sound of This is my curse and my gift.

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Speaker 1: So anytime I'm like really sick and I'm going I'm

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Speaker 1: much pain, I can't stop, Like I just crack jokes

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Speaker 1: because that's who I am as a person, and so

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Speaker 1: they think I'm fine, I'm like, no, no, this is

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Speaker 1: my personality. Like I just I'm not okay, you know. Um,

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Speaker 1: so I really, I really struggle and I pushed through um,

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Speaker 1: even severe illness, which this is not a good thing.

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Speaker 1: This is just like I was taught to never take

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Speaker 1: extreme illness, um and never take time for self care.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm working on that. But moral of a

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Speaker 1: story is I am getting better. Did you hear that

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Speaker 1: heavy swell? Okay, guys, but you know who's not getting better? Okay.

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Speaker 1: A California woman allegedly impersonated a nurse in order to

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Speaker 1: abduct a newborn from a hospital room. Oh so, she

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Speaker 1: a Riverside Conney sheriff, this twenty three year old woman,

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Speaker 1: Ms Moron, pretended to be a newly hired nurse. She

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Speaker 1: gained access to a medical unit where newborn infants were present.

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Speaker 1: The suspect allegedly entered a patient's hospital room and identified

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Speaker 1: without the newborn. Investigators tracked her down in Marina Valley,

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Speaker 1: where she was rested and booked. Um, first of all,

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Speaker 1: if she could just meander her way into a medical

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Speaker 1: I feel like she's just like a secret shopper, you know,

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Speaker 1: She's like, hey, I'm just gonna let you know where

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Speaker 1: all your security flowers. Flaws are number one, the newborn sector.

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Speaker 1: And a buddy who did that one time he stole

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Speaker 1: to return the item and when they busted and he goes,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you why I did that. I'm a

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Speaker 1: documentary filmmaker and I was testing the things to see

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Speaker 1: how these stories handle these things. And you guys did good.

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Speaker 1: You have a good system in place. They're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not buying it, so and how yeah it's fine. He

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Speaker 1: rebounded better life now. Um, but the balls to go

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Speaker 1: take a baby and walk out like obviously not all there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I also think it's just like this is a Netflix

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Speaker 1: I just feel this is this seems like one of

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Speaker 1: like a the infamous baby apper when from hospital to

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Speaker 1: at midnight on you know what I mean, Like, this

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Speaker 1: is just why would you want to steal a baby?

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Speaker 1: They're so annoying that you have to do, you have

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Speaker 1: like did she just have a child? Does she a

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Speaker 1: I don't know what she wants to do with this baby,

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Speaker 1: but it's a huge responsibility. I mean, it's like you're

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Speaker 1: a baby. Listen, it's funny, it's not. I'm glad the

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Speaker 1: reason we're joking about it. She didn't get away with it,

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Speaker 1: the baby, but It's like that's crazy, Like, you're right though,

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Speaker 1: why why is she stealing responsibilities? Also, like I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: I just think you gotta I mean, if you want

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Speaker 1: Like at least we're twenty five dollars, Like, hey, the

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Speaker 1: a too drink minimum? Oh, there's a I mean, you

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Speaker 1: like they have like a little baby low jack system. Right,

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Speaker 1: to get possibly stolen. I don't know if there's a

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is like a cool reality show,

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Speaker 1: like got you. We weren't really trying to steal your baby.

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Speaker 1: Ha ha. I'm a cure fucked nowadays, it wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: But you know, go back to the balls of going

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Speaker 1: find out later it's like Nolly a Portman. She's like,

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Speaker 1: I just really wanted to know what it would feel

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Speaker 1: You know, you know when you go to the grocery

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Speaker 1: But I guess that's why crazy people are crazy people.

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Speaker 1: like a video of like flying cars and shut Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's like when Robin Williams comes out in Jamanji and

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Speaker 1: he's like, what year is it to have fun at

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Speaker 1: other people's expenses? This is real time crime and we

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Speaker 1: are about to take a break, So don't commend you

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Speaker 1: crimes or fall into a coma in between now and

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Speaker 1: us coming back from the ad break, y'all. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you in a minute. All right, you guys, this is

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Speaker 1: real time crime. We're back, baby, Real time crime with

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Speaker 1: Lee Lamar and Dmitri Oh. And they'd be like, well,

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Speaker 1: how long was that out? He's no longer sometimes man

434
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Speaker 1: must be like a decade, three thousand beers. Alright, So anyway, um, okay,

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Speaker 1: you guys, our main story for today. Pretty cool if

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Speaker 1: you ask me, so, dB Cooper, where are you now

437
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Speaker 1: trending on Netflix? What is it about you ask? So?

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Speaker 1: Netflix explores this fifty year old case surrounding the infamous

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Speaker 1: plane hijactor Hi dictor m dB Cooper. On November one,

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Speaker 1: a man going by the name Dan Cooper boarded a

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Speaker 1: Northwest Orient Airline flight from Portland to Seattle, Pacific Northwest.

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00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: Years later, but right, it's a short flight, right, Yeah,

443
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: this is a short flight. Yeah. Years later, Cooper became

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Speaker 1: an infamous name and the most wanted man in the

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Speaker 1: entire nation. Cooper, also known as the media epithet dB Cooper,

446
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: successfully hijacked the flight after threatening a nearby flight attendant

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Speaker 1: and demanding four parachutes and a hefty sum of cash.

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00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: First of all, that's so cool. It's super cool. Like

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Speaker 1: when you think about that's kind of like James Bond

450
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: movie type of style, Like you hijacking plane, then you

451
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: parachute out into the wilderness, but quickly, so it's a

452
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Speaker 1: short flight from Portland to Seattle or whatever was What

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Speaker 1: do you mean he demanded a large sum of money.

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Speaker 1: Where's that coming from? Well, first of all, can I

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Speaker 1: just say this is one So it's fifty years ago,

456
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Speaker 1: which isn't that long ago? No, you know what I mean, Like,

457
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Speaker 1: it's not that that long ago, which makes me think

458
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: security and um safety was so bad back then. There's

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Speaker 1: no way to find this guy who multiple offenses. Would

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is so crazy, But okay, it's like

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Speaker 1: you think that if you had a depiction of what

462
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: the person looked like and he'd committed multiple crimes like this,

463
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: that they would create a profile, they'd be able to

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00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: figure it out. They'd have a passenger ledger, they do

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00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: process of elimination. Like it just seems crazy that they

466
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Speaker 1: never caught this guy. Okay, I know, and I think

467
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: now in nowadays terms, I think it's insanely crazy. But

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Speaker 1: I think now that you mentioned that, you go back

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Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy one, which was before I was born.

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Speaker 1: But you go back there and it's like, Okay, if

471
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Speaker 1: someone parashutes out of a plane into the wilderness, right,

472
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: you have to spread that message. You don't spread it

473
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Speaker 1: like the way we do now with like phones and

474
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Speaker 1: Twitter and this and that. So these people outside of

475
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Speaker 1: that forest or ever may not be looking for something.

476
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Speaker 1: So he very easily could have just walked out of

477
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Speaker 1: there at one point and been on his way. It's

478
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Speaker 1: not like all of a sudden the news spreads and

479
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: everybody's looking out for him. Also, is this so crazy?

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Speaker 1: But I always was under the impression that if you're

481
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Speaker 1: on a plane and the door the door opens of

482
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Speaker 1: the plane, that everyone gets sucked out, right? Is that

483
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Speaker 1: true or false? No? I think that's true. But again short,

484
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Speaker 1: who knows what kind of flight this was? I don't.

485
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Speaker 1: It probably wasn't a giant, right, it seems like a

486
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Speaker 1: much smaller flight where you know, they're just kind of

487
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Speaker 1: open and close the doors. But where's the large sum

488
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Speaker 1: of money coming from on a flight like that? Well,

489
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Speaker 1: maybe if it's a small private flight like that, people

490
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Speaker 1: are just maybe a lot of people flew with their cash. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: I mean banking was different then, Yes, people weren't just

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Speaker 1: like going a t M S right, So I guess

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Speaker 1: a lot of people just said cash on them And

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Speaker 1: that's true, And maybe he knew people on the flight,

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Speaker 1: Like remember just last week, we were talking about a

496
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Speaker 1: guy who was stealing ten thousand dollars worth of items

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Speaker 1: from people on plane. So it's like people bring expensive

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Speaker 1: things with them and money with them. And okay, so

499
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Speaker 1: and especially if you're traveling abroad maybe or what you

500
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Speaker 1: carry cash on you more so on flights than you

501
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Speaker 1: would in your everyday life, because you want to have

502
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Speaker 1: petty cash around, right, all right, So now that I've

503
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: proved you wrong, we'll just keep moving forward. This is

504
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: this is what I like. I throughout these these situations

505
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: and you just debunk them and you solve them. And

506
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: that's what that's what happens here, you know, a real

507
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: social slop. Okay, So all those crimes were marked by intamy.

508
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: Cooper himself became a media sensation, earning multiple references and artwork, music, films,

509
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: and shows like Twin Peaks which I Love, and the

510
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Speaker 1: Disney Plus series Low Key. The FBI has since opened

511
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Speaker 1: an investigation into cooper his identity and present day whereabouts,

512
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: but fifty years later, the question of who is dB

513
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: Cooper still remains unanswered. Netflix's latest documentary, D Cute, dB Couper,

514
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: Where Are You, attempts to make sense I imagine he

515
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: just like, hey, I'm over here, just like hey, guys.

516
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: Um attempts to make sense of these missing pebble pieces

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Speaker 1: with new clues over the course of four episodes in

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Speaker 1: any series introduces the investigator, sleuth, and journalists who have

519
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: been working tirelessly to solve this mystery. I mean tirelessly,

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00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: like Okay. Following his crimes, he became an American folk

521
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Speaker 1: legend and so called quote unquote badass hero. Conspiracy theorists

522
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: and fans alike praised his guts, he escape and endeavors

523
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: with only heightened which only heightened his public yet unknown persona.

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Speaker 1: This to me, the crime doesn't seem like they call

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Speaker 1: it a hijacking. But he left the plane right. He

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Speaker 1: didn't bring them somewhere else or hold anybody hostage, so

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Speaker 1: it's probably a textbook definition of of hijacking. He took money, fine,

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Speaker 1: but how much could it have been? I haven't seen that,

529
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Speaker 1: but maybe it'll be in the Netflix show. And he

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Speaker 1: demanded parachutes and he bombed us, so I get the

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Speaker 1: the cult hero. You know the story is fantastic. I

532
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: don't know that, and I'm sure the Netflix show will

533
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: be because that's how these things happen. But I'm not

534
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Speaker 1: sure that the FBI is like opening this because this

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Speaker 1: is a most wanted guy. I think this is more

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Speaker 1: like the FBI is like, no, that'd be kind of

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00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: cool to solve. Well, apparently this was a commercial airplane

538
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Speaker 1: and he was able to just drop out of it.

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00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: It's like, do you think he was like ex military maybe?

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00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: But it also if he's doing that, what he didn't

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Speaker 1: take a parachute with him, Like he went up there

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Speaker 1: in the demand. What if they were like, no, we

543
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: don't have Well, how could he bring a parachute with him?

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00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: How could he go through security with that? Well? I

545
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: guess also like fifty years ago, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 1: very confused by a lot of things here. I mean also,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I I understand why people would

548
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: still want to crack the case because it's only it's

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00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: within a fifty year period and it's mysterious, and I think,

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00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, there are probably still some people who are

551
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: looking for Amlia Earhart and anything that's unsolved. People want

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00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: to answers to period out. But we can also spend

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00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: those tax dollars on getting me a doctor who's not

554
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: wearing flip flops. It's not an either or. We could

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00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: probably do both. I don't I don't think that we

556
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: need too much tax dollars to get your doctors some

557
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: fucking shoes to make you feel a little safer. Man

558
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: just gonna pay less. You know this, Payless still open

559
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: and today filed for bankruptcy. I don't know what I mean,

560
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: who knows whatever? Okay, So, I mean the FBI never

561
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: found the guy, right, so obviously they could never make

562
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: the arrest. But do you think that he survived the phone?

563
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Speaker 1: Probably he knew enough to do what he was doing.

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Speaker 1: He knew enough to do so I imagine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's got a parachute, right, so I'm sure he just

566
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Speaker 1: landed somewhere. And that's the fascinating part is what was life?

567
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: You know fifty years ago? What did he do? Did

568
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: he live in the wilderness? Did he come out and

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00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: join society and just blend in. Did he go somewhere else?

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Speaker 1: Like it is fascinating to wonder what became of him.

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00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: This is a real Tom crue Is move. Yeah, you know,

572
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: this feels like I'm watching a movie. It feels like

573
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Speaker 1: a mission impossible type of stunt. I mean, you have

574
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Speaker 1: to be slightly off your rocker to do this and

575
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: also a thrill seeker. And also like, this is the

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Speaker 1: type of person to me that is like a high

577
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Speaker 1: stakes gambler, you know, is able to function on no

578
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: sleep as going from city to city, has casual sex

579
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Speaker 1: all over. This is the part of the podcast when

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00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Leah falls in love with the criminal um TV. So

581
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Speaker 1: if you're still alive, call me. So I wonder if

582
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: he's on tinder um. Yeah, so he goes dB now

583
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: goes by David Buster. That's when he used the money.

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Speaker 1: That's why he stole the lifelong dream to start an

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00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: arcade a chain arcade in arcade chain um it is

586
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a badass move. The whole thing is

587
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: super cool and it's like, but how much did he

588
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: plan in advance? Did he planned where he was going

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Speaker 1: to jump out? Like all that? Because he had nothing

590
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: but the money in a parachute, right, So if he

591
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: lands in the middle of the wilderness, where's the food?

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00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Where's this? So it's fascinating and I don't know at

593
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: what point he jumped out, but did they comb that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they calmbed the area, but I'll definitely check

595
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: this out. I mean, you're going we don't have an answer, though,

596
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: I know. I mean. The other thing is how much

597
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Speaker 1: money did he ask for? Because because it must have

598
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: been a planned there must have been someone on there

599
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Speaker 1: that he knew would have a ton of money, because

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Speaker 1: it was a empty sum of cash. It wasn't like

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Speaker 1: a random flight. He probably there's probably I mean, I'm

602
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Speaker 1: sure we'll see in the documentary, which sounds very exhilarating

603
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: to me. I'm gonna watch it as soon as we

604
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 1: get off. But it seems like he had he knew

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00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: someone was flying with a ton of cash, and he

606
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: planned this out, and he had the expertise on how

607
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: would have jump out of an airplane? And or maybe

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Speaker 1: he didn't. Maybe this guy's totally bonkers, and like maybe

609
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: he was just hit rock bottom and he owed the

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Speaker 1: mafia a ton of money or like the cartel, and

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00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: he was like maybe, I don't know, for parachutes will

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Speaker 1: get me off the hook, I don't know, And then

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00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: he's maybe or maybe this is his way of like

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00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: drawing attention. If he was on the run from Save

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00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: the Mafia, this is his way of drawing attention and

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Speaker 1: then faking his death, but it does have a very

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Speaker 1: Oceans eleven field to it. I agree with you that

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Speaker 1: he probably knew someone was on there that had the

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Speaker 1: money and this was his whole plan. But the other

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00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: thing that um that field is that this guy in

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Speaker 1: the picture of him from he's in a suit like

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Speaker 1: it's total I love the theme. I feel like I

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Speaker 1: needed to give you some background. I wanted to keep going.

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Speaker 1: If that kept going, I would never Okay, well in

625
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: that case, I'll stop. But yeah, no, he's wearing these

626
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: like cool guy glasses in sea and his hair slicked back.

627
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: That's pretty badass for you, Dan Cooper, where are you? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a I mean he also look if

629
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Speaker 1: he was like, let's say, at the youngest twenty when

630
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Speaker 1: this happened, he'd be seventy now if he survived, he

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00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: didn't look like he's twenty in this photo. You have

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Speaker 1: any do you think they have any DNA that if

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Speaker 1: they ever found a body they could be like they

634
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Speaker 1: could test it. Then he he's all, this is okay,

635
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: this is just like a DNA test. Turns out he's

636
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Speaker 1: a hu. Listen. I think this is a This is

637
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: a of story of image that has been enhanced, right,

638
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Speaker 1: because if you think about it, his name is Dan Cooper.

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Speaker 1: No off, So the Dan Cooper's out there, not very

640
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: exciting name every ten minutes. Yeah, they got sunglasses, a suit,

641
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: He hijacks the plane, demands money, takes a parachute, jumps out,

642
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: and then they're like no, in order to make this now,

643
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: we're naming him dB Cooper. Right, they give him like

644
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: a cooler name. Why because there they is this something

645
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Speaker 1: that was enhanced. I feel like there's more to this

646
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Speaker 1: story than we think. I think there's more people involved

647
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Speaker 1: in just dB acting alone. What's an inside job? I

648
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Speaker 1: don't think you're wrong, and I'm very excited to just

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Speaker 1: find out more. Yeah, I'm excited to find out more.

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous to find out more. I am hoping he's

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Speaker 1: alive and single. Are you nervous to find out? Adam?

652
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: I hope you're not listening to this podcast. I love you, Okay, so,

653
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: but you get I've had to leave you for a

654
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: seventy year old criminal got jumped out of a plane. Like, yeah, Adam,

655
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Speaker 1: step up your game. Yeah, he's got a ton of cash,

656
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: this guy, and I'm sure he invested it well too.

657
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be so funny if he did all of this, survived,

658
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: lived to tell the tale, avoided the police, only to

659
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: invest it improperly and start back at zero, that would

660
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: be amazing. But this is what I want for you. See. Obviously, Adam,

661
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Speaker 1: I love him and that's my first preference. But if

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Speaker 1: you're going to go down the path of wanting to

663
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: take criminals, I want you to be with more of

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Speaker 1: like a dB Cooper than the guy that pulled a

665
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: gun at the dollar store. Because someone didn't say thank you,

666
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Speaker 1: that's what I want for you. Thank you. That's so sweet.

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Speaker 1: And I think that this is an excellent place to

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Speaker 1: end our final episode for the season. And you guys,

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Speaker 1: did you hear that? Did me really cares about me? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That was the standards for me and TV. Like the

671
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Speaker 1: whole season is an ark and at the very end,

672
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: it's a real nice cliffhanger payoff. Let's just say this.

673
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: We started with Teddy, we started with the Gabby Potito story,

674
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: which was traumatic to the entire nation that that story

675
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Speaker 1: just took us all by storm, and we started real

676
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: time crime there on a very heavy note. I think

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00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was still trying to be myself, which

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00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: means inappropriately infused humor random points, because it's my defense

679
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: mechanism against feeling uncomfortable and burying emotions that make me

680
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: feel sad or confused or heard or scared. And then

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Speaker 1: thank you, Um well they SAIDs what my therapist told me.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, she's like, have you ever considered

683
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: not deflecting with humor? And I was like, huh no, so,

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Speaker 1: um yeah, why would I do that? No? Thank you though, um,

685
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, and then we slowly got into some funny

686
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: hot topics, crazy hot topics. We've talked about murder mysteries

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Speaker 1: that have never been solved. We've talked about a lot

688
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Speaker 1: of cases that have been happening obviously in real time.

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Speaker 1: We've watched criminals die on our watch. We've seen criminals

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Speaker 1: come and go and adel V She's gotten n f T.

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Speaker 1: I bought it. I bought into the crime, you guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I just want more access to Anna,

693
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Speaker 1: I want more information. I'm really just mad she was

694
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: never on our podcast. And it's been a real roller coaster. Yeah,

695
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Speaker 1: and I like to think, um that we've solved a

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Speaker 1: lot of crimes. Don't go back and check because we

697
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: don't need to fact check on that, but I like

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Speaker 1: to think that we did. Um we and like you said,

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Speaker 1: we did see a bunch of them conclude, like the

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Speaker 1: Gabby Potito case. We started, like you said, and that

701
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Speaker 1: was one of those who are like, we may never

702
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: have answers to this. We got answers to that. And

703
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Speaker 1: it's funny that we're ending the season with D. B. Cooper,

704
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: which is fifty years with no answers. I love these stories,

705
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: but they drive me nuts thinking we'll never know, like

706
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: deathbed confessions, you stuff like that. I always like some

707
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: sort of bow on my crazy story. So it's nice

708
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: that we we do get them, and that kind of

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00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: gives me hope for some of these. But that's why

710
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: keeps true crime so interesting, and that's what keeps us

711
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: digging for answers because I don't know about you, but

712
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm a very black and white thinker, which doesn't really

713
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 1: work great for relationships. But when there's a question mark

714
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: or there's a mystery where there's something that's unsolved, I

715
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: need to have the hard facts. I need to see

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Speaker 1: the answer. I cannot just believe that everything's okay. I

717
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: cannot just believe that you know, you know, someone will

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Speaker 1: get their justice in the spiritual realm. It's like, no,

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00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: I need to know who did it when? How? Why

720
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: the motive is always so important to me? Like, and

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Speaker 1: this is with a lot of different things, right, It's

722
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: it's just in life. I don't like a lot of

723
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: gray area. I need to see. And this is why

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00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: a lot of my relationships and so so dramatically because

725
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: instead of just ending it when I'm like, oh yeah, see,

726
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: like this is a psychle I could just end it,

727
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll write it till the wheels fall off,

728
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: until I get all the way to the point where

729
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: I know you're cheating on me because I caught you

730
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: red handed, you know, but all the other things leading

731
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Speaker 1: up to it, the clues weren't good enough. Um no, No,

732
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: I need to complete the case right and then I

733
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: like people that want to do that. That's why I

734
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: appreciate O. J. Simpson and how he's looking for the

735
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: real killer. That's the type of stuff we need. Propacana

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Speaker 1: hasn't been the same since. But I really think, I

737
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: really think that I am. I'm gonna take uh a

738
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: lot of time. There's a there's a sentence that will

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00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: come at some point. It it's not there yet because

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Speaker 1: just like this podcast, it's a taking a quick pause.

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Speaker 1: This has been an extraordinary first season of Real Time Crime.

742
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: I love all my social studs very much. We've very

743
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: much enjoyed talking about all these different wild cases. And

744
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: thank you for falling around my tragic love life which

745
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: actually came to a pretty cool conclusion that wasn't open

746
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: and shut case. Also, the season is not ending on

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00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: that like stay tuned or to come. Yeah, I'm going

748
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Speaker 1: to London. Who knows, I'll have him there. As soon

749
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: as I get off here, I'm jumping right on your

750
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: Instagram stories and seeing was it well you know what

751
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: the next move is? Oh oh oh? Also Friday, Saturday

752
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: and Sunday, I'm running my hour in l A. M

753
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Speaker 1: Are you in town? Uh no, I'm at the lake.

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00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: I mean, but I am home now, and it's just

755
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: whatever are you going up on Saturday, Saturday and Sunday?

756
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: And then I leave Monday and then I'm going to

757
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: do a bunch of shows in London, So if you

758
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: are in the UK, I'll be doing shows in London.

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00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: I'll also be running my hour at the Bill Murray,

760
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: which is actually a venue. And then I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Edinburgh and I'll be doing my hour at the Fringe.

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Speaker 1: So if you're in Scotland, come say hi. If you're

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Speaker 1: in London, come say hi. If you're in l a

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Speaker 1: please this weekend, I'm sure Mary. I've also got other

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Speaker 1: shows on Friday. I've got two shows on Friday as well.

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Speaker 1: So uh, y'all, this has been a wonderful first season.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for blessing me with your ears. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being fans, thanks for loving us, thanks for following along

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Speaker 1: on this wild journey that we call crime and comedy,

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Speaker 1: true crime with a twizt um. I've been Lee Lamar,

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Speaker 1: your host. You can find me on the internet at

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00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: Lee Lamar to ours TikTok five hours, Twitter, same thing, website,

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00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: same thing I just told her my show dates. Then Dmitri,

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00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: where can we find you on the internet? Instagram at

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00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: Dmitri pappis and probably the same thing everywhere else. So

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Speaker 1: try that. Okay, you guys, we love you so much.

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Speaker 1: Stay safe out there, have a very safe summer. Take

778
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Speaker 1: care of each other, look look out for each other's backs,

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00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: and if someone opens the door for you, for the

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00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: love of God, say thank you, all right, thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: See what I did there? Love you. I it's real time,

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Speaker 1: grad real time gro right, I mean, is it actually

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Speaker 1: real time? I'm solving anything? Or just say it's a

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Speaker 1: fairly safe, got it? Okay, see you next week for

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Speaker 1: more real time crime, only on I Hort Radio