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Speaker 3: His head coach, Jim Harbough said today that he.
Speaker 2: Have a cardio ablation appolation this offseason and here replacement surgery.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, remember having a conversation with you, I say,
Speaker 2: I know that walk.
Speaker 1: I've seen that every time and you did say that
Speaker 1: not long ago on the show.
Speaker 2: Joe, I know that walk. Think I know a guy
Speaker 2: that had that walk for the better part of three years.
Speaker 1: So it's painful. Huh what hold on, Wait a minute, now,
Speaker 1: wait a minute. If he's getting the surgery, if he's
Speaker 1: gonna get it, now, what's the timetable as far as
Speaker 1: healing and will he be able to coach?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'd be fine. He was fine. I mean,
Speaker 2: oh Joe. I had the surgery. The first surgery I
Speaker 2: had on a Wednesday. I had on a Saturday. I
Speaker 2: was doing squads and lungeon that following Thursday. What oh yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh it ain't no now for me. They
Speaker 2: uh uh. The PT told me say take a little
Speaker 2: take a little some ambient, you know, not ambient ambient,
Speaker 2: take some top pay medicine. So I took a couple
Speaker 2: of tile and off something like that. Because they say
Speaker 2: we're gonna put it through. It's gonna be a little painful.
Speaker 2: You gotta realize, oh Joe, you got that incision and
Speaker 2: you got the surgery, the artificial hip that's in there.
Speaker 3: You know you're gonna have to bite down. You know.
Speaker 3: I had a towel.
Speaker 2: I had to bite down on that towel, Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: because there's tears rolling down you boy's eyes. But I
Speaker 2: knew sometimes people wait too late and it gets you know,
Speaker 2: you don't get that flexibility in there. I wanted the
Speaker 2: flexibility immediately, and so I had to had to bite
Speaker 2: the bullet. But you know, oh, you're going as a
Speaker 2: professional athlete, you know, we have stuff like that. You
Speaker 2: don't know what it's like to be injured, and so
Speaker 2: you probably hadn't had to do a whole lot of
Speaker 2: rehab other than a little sprained ankle. But if you
Speaker 2: have surgery, if you've gone through things, you kind of
Speaker 2: know what it's like. And so it only took me,
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I was I was back working out. They
Speaker 2: normally say, okay, six weeks. I was back working out
Speaker 2: in four weeks, but I was squatting four days, five
Speaker 2: days after I actually had the surgery, squatting the luncheon
Speaker 2: hold on.
Speaker 5: I'm confused.
Speaker 1: Now, now, after you get these surgeries, are the rods
Speaker 1: or whatever they.
Speaker 5: Put in place, are they there?
Speaker 2: So what happened?
Speaker 1: Does it affect you when you in cold weather or no?
Speaker 2: No, there's there's You will never have pain in that
Speaker 2: because there is no bone, there's nothing to be arthritic.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna be great.
Speaker 2: And like the doctor told me said, you won't believe
Speaker 2: how well you feel after you have this surgery. Everybody
Speaker 2: that's ever had this surgery that I've spoken.
Speaker 3: To, they rave about it. They rave about it.
Speaker 2: If you have if you have hit pains, and the
Speaker 2: thing is, oh Joe, some people young is is Titus.
Speaker 2: I see you, buddy. Some people as young as twenty
Speaker 2: seven twenty eight are having total hit replacement.
Speaker 5: At twenty seven eight.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, that thing if it gets chronic, if it
Speaker 2: gets bad enough, O Joe.
Speaker 3: Oh, you get it done until I put it off,
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: I got the injection, I got the steroids, injection, I
Speaker 2: got all that stuff, O Joe. But eventually that pain
Speaker 2: got Then it kept felt like they was giving me
Speaker 2: a placebo. It didn't even do anything. The pain medication
Speaker 2: that they was injected in there to steroid, he wasn't
Speaker 2: doing anything to help. So I just did I just
Speaker 2: did that and got it done with. But Coach Harbard,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be just fine being the next professional athlete
Speaker 2: like yourself and being as hard a hit as you are.
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna put the time in the rehab
Speaker 2: and you'll be back up and running, and you'll be
Speaker 2: glad you had this surge. I promise you that pain
Speaker 2: that you feel. I don't know if he's taking any
Speaker 2: pain medication, but the pain that he feels, he won't
Speaker 2: feel anymore.
Speaker 3: I promise you that, O Joe.
Speaker 5: And hold on, I'm still thinking about that.
Speaker 1: You talk about people that's twenty seven to twenty eight,
Speaker 1: probably never played contact sports, never played at the highest
Speaker 1: level as far as NFL is concerned.
Speaker 5: How do you have hip problems at such an early age.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's degenerative. Sometimes sometimes it's degenerative degenerative, You just
Speaker 2: you're just born with it, you know. Look, my sister
Speaker 2: had both of hers. She ain't never played, no surgery,
Speaker 2: play volleyball, nothing, nothing, had both of them replaced. My
Speaker 2: brother had his replace, about to have a knee replaced.
Speaker 2: I've had both of mine replaced. Obviously, obviously, if you're
Speaker 2: a professional athlete, the bounding out of the jumper, a
Speaker 2: triple jump and a long jump in high school, played
Speaker 2: sports since I was nine years of age, Obviously, all
Speaker 2: that pounding up and down playing basketball all those year. Obviously, Yes,
Speaker 2: But sometimes you know, you're just you know, you're just born.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about all the people that never played
Speaker 2: a sport that's having knee replacement or hip replacement.
Speaker 3: Right, it just it just happened.
Speaker 2: But like I said, sometimes sometimes it's a situation where
Speaker 2: you have an accident, a car accident, a motorcycle accident,
Speaker 2: and the he'll get destroyed. You got to get another one.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's viagenity. You just never know. But I just
Speaker 2: know you glad you do, because glad you once you
Speaker 2: have that surgery. I know you're glad you are glad
Speaker 2: you did because it's so damn painful.
Speaker 1: Right now, I don't mean to be in anybody personal beness.
Speaker 1: I ain't mean to cown on. I don't mean to
Speaker 1: be in your pockets. Now when we talk about these
Speaker 1: type of surgeries. What's that money we talking about?
Speaker 5: Mind?
Speaker 2: This was I had my first one. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 3: I think I had my first one in July.
Speaker 2: Of twenty twenty. Yeah, like one hundred and four thousand.
Speaker 5: Man, Hell no, hey, that hip donna have to stay
Speaker 5: like that won't hurt.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you see, hey, you see how Jim Harbaugh walking.
Speaker 5: She's about like one hundred folks American dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hear the thing. Oh Joe. The longer you walk
Speaker 2: like that, now you wear down that knee. Now you
Speaker 2: mess up the other side. Because the body is like
Speaker 2: a car. When the shocks go bad on one side,
Speaker 2: if you don't get it replaced, it mess up the
Speaker 2: rear end. Now your alignment is messed up. Now something
Speaker 2: else is thrown off. The body is meant to be
Speaker 2: the work simultaneous. Now something is catching. This side has worked.
Speaker 2: Now it's got to compensate for the side that's not
Speaker 2: working properly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but come on, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: In this economy, you know, think, think about the price
Speaker 1: point you just said, you's to about one hundred and
Speaker 1: four thousand American dollars not pay so the Americans out
Speaker 1: and everybody ain't got that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of times it's older people
Speaker 2: and then maybe maybe you get Medicaid, Medicare or whatever. Say,
Speaker 2: I'm very fortunate that obviously, you know, I had medical insurance,
Speaker 2: but they.
Speaker 3: Don't pay for it. They don't pay for it all.
Speaker 2: And so I had to come out of my pocket,
Speaker 2: which was no problem, and I'm glad I was able
Speaker 2: to be but because even if I didn't have medical insurance,
Speaker 2: I would have been able to afford it. But fortunately
Speaker 2: I did have medical insurance and I was it was
Speaker 2: able to offset some of the costs.
Speaker 3: But you understand that, but it's.
Speaker 2: It's some things, oh Joe, you just can't And that's
Speaker 2: why I feel bad for people that don't have medical insurance,
Speaker 2: or don't have the proper medical insurance because you know,
Speaker 2: you get some diagnosis and then the insurance we want
Speaker 2: to pay for half and don't pay it'll bankrupt you.
Speaker 2: The quickest way to lose wealth is health care. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you don't have it. I mean some of these
Speaker 2: perceis he just cost a half a million, a million,
Speaker 2: two million dollars and you got drugs that's costing twenty
Speaker 2: thousand a month. Who're gonna prey for that?
Speaker 1: Hold on what proceeds it costs. I'm gonna fire a
Speaker 1: thousand to a million.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Hey, you start having them transplants, lung, you start having kidney,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, for sure, mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then medicine, I mean you get these certain kind
Speaker 2: of cancers though children medicine is twenty fives of a month.
Speaker 2: Who on for to you for twenty five of the month?
Speaker 5: Listen, I listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I have I have
Speaker 1: a take, and I don't want to go there on
Speaker 1: the show tonight as far as when it comes to
Speaker 1: cancer and and things of that nature. But that's that's
Speaker 1: a whole nother can of worms. I'm gonna choose not
Speaker 1: to open up the night.
Speaker 2: Well, look, we understand the uh. The money is in
Speaker 2: the treatment, not the cure, so we'll just leave it as.
Speaker 3: That, oh Joa.
Speaker 2: According to a recent Athletic article, deshean Washington was negative,
Speaker 2: was a negative presence and couldn't be held accountable.
Speaker 3: These are the most damnic excerpts.
Speaker 2: Coach Stefanski, I think it's a two time NFL Coach
Speaker 2: of the Year showed Washson clip from the offense during
Speaker 2: their meeting in March of twenty two, demonstrating how Washington
Speaker 2: could thrive in a wide zone play action scheme crafted
Speaker 2: by Gary Kubiak and Mike Shanahan. But after he arrived
Speaker 2: in Cleveland, Wasson never embraced Thefanski's system. He wanted to
Speaker 2: be in shotgun and Stefanski wanted him under center play action,
Speaker 2: a more effective component. According to multiple players, those mistakes
Speaker 2: weren't pointed out in film session, frustrating at least a
Speaker 2: few veterans who believes Stefanski wouldn't criticize Washington in front
Speaker 2: of the team when Jameis Winston placed Washon after he
Speaker 2: tore the Achilles, player says Stefanski returned and pointing out
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks mistake. In film session, players told me there
Speaker 2: was a constant heaviness surrounding Washington in the locker room,
Speaker 2: and they felt different energy in the building departure after
Speaker 2: There's Achilles injury in October, a couple of veterans told
Speaker 2: me it felt like a cloud had been lifted.
Speaker 3: For three years.
Speaker 2: The Browns consorted themselves to match Watson's strength and desires,
Speaker 2: but teammates ultimately grew tired of the organization catering to
Speaker 2: his ineffective quarterback and never really fit. In Cleveland. He
Speaker 2: received at least at least one death threat.
Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question? Yes, all the time?
Speaker 5: Why all this coming out now? Just curious?
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, Oh Joe, you asked the question.
Speaker 3: Remember you asked this question.
Speaker 2: You say, uh, why everybody else look effective in the
Speaker 2: offense other than DeShawn? Look at the offense they ran
Speaker 2: with the other guys, and look at the offense they
Speaker 2: ran with DeShawn. You should ask You should have had
Speaker 2: your answer as I'm reading this. You should have had
Speaker 2: the answer to the question that you were asking. Other
Speaker 2: guys were receptive of the type of offense that was
Speaker 2: going to be run. One guy wanted to run a
Speaker 2: specific type of an offense that he was so comfortable
Speaker 2: with and and and in Houston. Now, for me, I'm
Speaker 2: a firm believer, Ojo. If you get a guy in
Speaker 2: free agency, you probably should do what he did where
Speaker 2: he was in order to get the max out.
Speaker 5: Of him and exactly.
Speaker 2: But the problem is is that that's not what I teach.
Speaker 2: I can't teach you a subject that I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm a history teacher, Ojoe, I can't teach you math.
Speaker 2: Let me let me interject real quick, go ahead. If
Speaker 2: you see de Shawn Watson have success in Houston, and
Speaker 2: understand he was able to do more with less and
Speaker 2: he had success where at that time when he was
Speaker 2: in Houston, he was considered a top five quarterback what
Speaker 2: he was able to do in said offense.
Speaker 5: So if you're bringing him.
Speaker 1: In and you're paying him what you're paying him guaranteed money,
Speaker 1: why not as a coach, as an officer coordinator, make
Speaker 1: sure you scheme and plan around whatever his strengths are
Speaker 1: and what he did offensively in Houston to make sure
Speaker 1: you get the same exact effect and result in product
Speaker 1: when he's in Cleveland, not say you know what, No,
Speaker 1: I have my own offense that I want to run.
Speaker 1: I have something that I want to that we're going
Speaker 1: to run that. I created my scheme, my plays, and
Speaker 1: we want you to fit it to fit into that mold.
Speaker 5: If that's not what he does, that's playing to his weakness,
Speaker 5: not his strengths.
Speaker 2: Could ask your question, could DeShawn teach him that? When
Speaker 2: Peyton went to Denver, he taught him that offense. He
Speaker 2: taught him what he knew when Brady went to When
Speaker 2: Brady went to Tampa, he taught him what he so
Speaker 2: could Deshaun teach it?
Speaker 1: Hmm?
Speaker 2: Now, Mike, when RG three, that's really not the system
Speaker 2: that Mike wanted to run.
Speaker 3: But Mike went down to RG went down to Baylor,
Speaker 3: he talked to R.
Speaker 2: Brown's, he studied a lot of tape, and he implemented
Speaker 2: a system that was going to be conducive to what
Speaker 2: RG three was good at. But even though that was
Speaker 2: the system that RG three five, then he wanted to
Speaker 2: be Peyton, He wanted to be Brady, he wanted to
Speaker 2: be Drew Brees. Now RG three is going to disagree
Speaker 2: and say that's not the case. But I've got confirmation
Speaker 2: that was the case. So the question is, O Joe,
Speaker 2: can you teach someone the system that you do? Could
Speaker 2: you teach it? That's what Brady did, That's what Manning did.
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski knows what he knows. He knows this system works.
Speaker 2: It works, there's no quick there.
Speaker 5: It didn't work with the Shawan though, yeah, work with
Speaker 5: the Shan.
Speaker 2: But he didn't. He never tried to embrace it at
Speaker 2: least give it a try. Oh so you what did you,
Speaker 2: Prepa say, I don't like this? You ain't even tried it?
Speaker 2: What ain't that food it? See if you like it
Speaker 2: first before you turn your nose.
Speaker 3: Up at it.
Speaker 5: Hey, it'especially vegetables, it's specially this.
Speaker 2: Look, it's not working and it's too late to turn
Speaker 2: back now. So even if you put him in a system,
Speaker 2: I just believe there's too much damage that has been
Speaker 2: done to its body. Second, Achilles, he's gonna miss twenty six,
Speaker 2: he's gonna miss twenty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you think about o Jo, he's played what in
Speaker 2: the last three four years. The man might have played
Speaker 2: the entire season. That's if you that's if you put
Speaker 2: the games together together, he might have played. So what
Speaker 2: was that in twenty one he didn't play. Twenty two
Speaker 2: he missed the part of the game, twenty three he
Speaker 2: missed the lar chump, and he damn near missed all
Speaker 2: twenty four. Mmm, so remember in twenty one he didn't
Speaker 2: play at all? Oh Joe, he was on he I mean,
Speaker 2: he was healthy, but he didn't play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't.
Speaker 3: You can't get.
Speaker 2: Nothing out about not playing. I don't care what now.
Speaker 2: He preserved his body, but no, your body needs to
Speaker 2: go through that. Your body needs to drop back. Your
Speaker 2: body needs to feel these guys. You gotta duck and dodge,
Speaker 2: and you gotta keep your eyes down field.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It's just I just think the best thing for DeShawn
Speaker 2: and and and I hate to say this, I think
Speaker 2: it's just time for them to part where it's o Yo.
Speaker 5: You think so it is.
Speaker 2: He's never he's as much as I wanted to see it,
Speaker 2: He's never gonna be what he was in Houston.
Speaker 1: They can ask some yes, how old is this Sean
Speaker 1: Watson thirty even I don't even think he thirty yet.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine, twenty nine, twenty nine year old quarterback. You
Speaker 1: can't see him at that to the passes already on.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying no, I'm saying Cleveland cup ways. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying he should be done with the league.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, f I was gonna say it.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, he should be to Cleveland, should
Speaker 2: be done. But O Joe, but that's an awful that's
Speaker 2: an awful lot coming back off those two two achilles, Ojoe,
Speaker 2: not one two. Yeah, and he hadn't played a whole lot.
Speaker 2: Think about it, oh Joe, he's gonna play less than
Speaker 2: what fifteen games in a five year span. He missed
Speaker 2: basically all of twenty four. He's gonna miss all the
Speaker 2: twenty five. He missed all of damn near twenty three.
Speaker 2: Down for twenty two. He didn't play all the twenty
Speaker 2: and twenty one, so he coming up to twenty six,
Speaker 2: O cho. Think about if somebody asks you, O Joe,
Speaker 2: we're gonna let you play five games this year, five
Speaker 2: game next year, but the previous year you're gonna miss
Speaker 2: the entire season, and the year after that you're gonna
Speaker 2: play two games, and then you're gonna miss the entire
Speaker 2: season and you're gonna come back off the injury. You're
Speaker 2: not gonna be the same, Ojo, your body function. You
Speaker 2: need to be able to do that thing. You gotta
Speaker 2: be able to see it.
Speaker 3: I got a.
Speaker 2: If you're not doing that on Joe, you lose that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's crazy when you think about it.
Speaker 1: Think about the quarterback, the quarterback position like that.
Speaker 5: That too.
Speaker 2: It's all repetition because you a it's situations that you've
Speaker 2: been in. You start to lose those fighting senses. They
Speaker 2: don't tingle the same. Yeah, that's why it's hard for
Speaker 2: a guy to go to the bench and come back
Speaker 2: in Onjoe because you used to dodging that, you could,
Speaker 2: used to seeing that, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 2: they take that away from you.
Speaker 3: It takes your while to get it back.
Speaker 2: Now, think about you going away for five four and
Speaker 2: a half years and played thirteen fourteen games. And that's man,
Speaker 2: that's that's coming off of two A key Now that's
Speaker 2: the most serious injury. Hold.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing about it not the not too
Speaker 1: not only the two A kys injury. It's the same,
Speaker 1: it's the same.
Speaker 2: Same, same akuse. But and here's the thing, O Joe.
Speaker 2: What made him dynamic, It was an athleticism, meism, how
Speaker 2: much how much athleticism you think he's gonna have because
Speaker 2: he didn't look the same O Joe when he came,
Speaker 2: when he got in, and he didn't have.
Speaker 5: No injuries to his lower extremities, right, And that's that's sad.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Just in general, it's hard to get that back, O Joe,
Speaker 2: because you stay in the boot and you know, it's
Speaker 2: just like anything that muscle starts the atrophy, that calf
Speaker 2: muscle starts the atrophy.
Speaker 1: Right, right, and other parts of the body start to compensate, compensate.
Speaker 2: I just I just feel I just feel bad. Miles
Speaker 2: Garrett says the Browns are closer than people think.
Speaker 3: To contend it.
Speaker 2: I've talked to Jim Andrew Berry about what's going to
Speaker 2: make the most of the talent that's here.
Speaker 3: We're closer than some people think we are. No, you're not.
Speaker 3: You're not not without a quarterback.
Speaker 5: Did he really quote that?
Speaker 3: That's what he saying. That's what I mean. We got
Speaker 3: it in parenthesy, so that's what he's saying.
Speaker 5: I doesn't believe that.
Speaker 1: Man. This and me, we just we just talked about
Speaker 1: players in PC being PC and not truthfully saying how
Speaker 1: they really feel. You know, you understand the landscape of
Speaker 1: the NFL. You look at all the teams that are
Speaker 1: in the playoffs right now. I mean, obviously it's about offense,
Speaker 1: it's about defense, but all the teams in the playoffs
Speaker 1: have what what's the one common denominated every team in
Speaker 1: the quarterback?
Speaker 3: Quarterback?
Speaker 1: A quarterback. You know, I'm thinking, no, don't fool don't
Speaker 1: fool yourself. I think you had a merry go around,
Speaker 1: a merry go round and carouseler quarterbacks all season long.
Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to compete, let alone in.
Speaker 5: The AFC North until you get a consistent quarterback, a
Speaker 5: good one at that.
Speaker 2: I think Miles is a line for a contract extention,
Speaker 2: a big one.
Speaker 1: Hey oh, if he's on line for a contract extension,
Speaker 1: he don't want to get it in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: That's not where you want to get it. Hey, look,
Speaker 2: I get it. I get what he's saying. You know,
Speaker 2: they drafted him number one overall, they paid him, They've
Speaker 2: been good by him. I don't think they're close. He
Speaker 2: thinks they're I don't think they are. I have what
Speaker 2: so hold on what what?
Speaker 3: What? What pick are they in the draft?
Speaker 2: Who could they possibly get and if you go, if
Speaker 2: you go to Cleveland, when you see the success that
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield is having in Tampa. Cleveland, Oh, Cleveland, they
Speaker 2: picked number two?
Speaker 3: O't Joe?
Speaker 1: Okay, they picked number two? Where are they going quarterback?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: You think, come on now, no.
Speaker 3: To go there?
Speaker 5: I do not Prime will intervene like Archie Manning did.
Speaker 3: Don't Oh the Marks having taken cam Ward?
Speaker 1: Okay, well hold on if if they got to taken
Speaker 1: cam Ward, who picked first?
Speaker 3: Titans?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: Okay, so sure doors basically to the Titans, because I'm mars.
Speaker 1: They're very upset with with Will Levis and they don't
Speaker 1: like how that Oh yeah for sure, yes, yes, yes, absolutely, okay,
Speaker 1: I could I could see that. I could see that. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So who picks third in New England?
Speaker 3: Giants? Giants?
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh my goodness. So that means.
Speaker 2: They might go they might get take a quarterback in
Speaker 2: free agency and then take and then take Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: at three.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that, Oh Travis Hunter, a
Speaker 1: Travis Hunting nothing and that Oh.
Speaker 5: That's gonna be nice. Can you imagine I mean Travis Hunter?
Speaker 1: I would hope, Oh what position would he be drafted
Speaker 1: at oh A dB A receiver.
Speaker 2: dB A because it's it's it's easier to create packages
Speaker 2: for an offensive player than a package for a defensive player.
Speaker 5: Right, Hey, can can you imagine?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine being in the big Apple and how big.
Speaker 5: Being in that market can can be for him?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Woof, that's gonna be nast It's gonna be nasty work.
Speaker 5: That's nice, Oh, Joe, Okay.
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson and Arthur Smith reportedly had trouble working with
Speaker 2: one another, with unsubstantiated rumors that Smith preferred fields. Reports
Speaker 2: surface during the year that offensive coordinator Arthur Smith preferred
Speaker 2: fields over Wilson, but was never but that was never substantiated. Still,
Speaker 2: despite Wilson and Smith spending countless hours together after typical work,
Speaker 2: they're watching film and publicly joking about it. A teen
Speaker 2: source recently said that Wilson and Smith did not have
Speaker 2: a very good working relationship, but fought through their differences
Speaker 2: as best they could. Reports also sce that George Pickens
Speaker 2: showed up late to their Christmas game Christmas Day game,
Speaker 2: arriving at the stadium some twenty five thirty five minutes.
Speaker 3: Late.
Speaker 2: I think he arrived supposed to be there two hours
Speaker 2: before the game, and he arrived by the hour, not
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 3: Minutes before the game.
Speaker 2: Pickings showed up late to practice in games countless time
Speaker 2: now in his young career. It is believe the Steelers
Speaker 2: will move on from George Pickts this offseason. With moving
Speaker 2: on from Wilson and Pickens this offseason be the best
Speaker 2: move for the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I think, I think for pick I think a change
Speaker 1: the scene would be good, not only a change the scenery,
Speaker 1: but being able to sit down and talk to somebody,
Speaker 1: being able to sit down and talk.
Speaker 3: That's your job.
Speaker 5: I got you.
Speaker 1: I got you being able to sit down and talk
Speaker 1: to a veteran player and getting him to understand that
Speaker 1: the years, these years do go by fast.
Speaker 5: You know, these opportunities do go by fast.
Speaker 1: Right now, while you're not even close to your prime yet.
Speaker 5: You gotta get right. You got to get right on the.
Speaker 1: Right track, because they will tolerate you, like you always say,
Speaker 1: they will tolerate you until they can replace you on
Speaker 1: and Picktts needs to understand it. As great as you are,
Speaker 1: as good as you are, as as much potential as
Speaker 1: you possess, we got to get that on the right track.
Speaker 5: We gotta we gotta channel that energy.
Speaker 1: We got to channel that NBA in the in the
Speaker 1: NFL young boy energy in the right direction.
Speaker 5: We got to channel in the right direction.
Speaker 1: We got to put an energy into the game, into
Speaker 1: our craft, into wanting to be the best and being
Speaker 1: able to live to your full potential. And I think
Speaker 1: a change of scenery would be good for pickings, especially
Speaker 1: getting them in the right place. After having someone like
Speaker 1: myself and some other veteran NFL receivers to talk to
Speaker 1: them and they get them to understand what the g
Speaker 1: is go by fast and they don't won't tolerate you
Speaker 1: for so long, you know, oh yoe.
Speaker 5: As far as the qued.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, your best friend and everybody knows
Speaker 2: what I think of t O. Yeah, that's you ain't
Speaker 2: got too ability. Look at to To was catching for
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred and fifteen touchdowns and they moved on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let that sink in now. The guy that they replaced,
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice with San Francisco said, now we're doing Philly.
Speaker 2: Look at what TiO. Look at go back and look
Speaker 2: at TiO. TiO had like fifteen touchdowns. Then he missed
Speaker 2: three games with that broken ankle. Then he was halfway
Speaker 2: through the season. He had another seven hundred yards. He's
Speaker 2: gonna place to have fourteen fifty ondred yard Phillisida.
Speaker 3: I know we're doing Dallas.
Speaker 2: He goes to Buffalo and he's having a better season
Speaker 2: than everybody there. I don't know if Moles was still that.
Speaker 2: I think peerless price was still there, but Pillis might
Speaker 2: have been grown. TiO had almost a thousand yards there, Kelly.
Speaker 5: If Shaelley came to Cincinnati and cut a fool out
Speaker 5: there with me.
Speaker 2: He almost had a thousand yard towards New York m
Speaker 2: And with that count of ability, TiO should have been
Speaker 2: able to get at least at bare minimum two more years.
Speaker 2: TiO was supposed to be able to steal two years
Speaker 2: just because he t O and the numbers that he
Speaker 2: put up prior to that. Yeah, real, all the other receiver,
Speaker 2: all the other receivers were able to steal a couple
Speaker 2: of years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why couldn't he?
Speaker 2: And that's what George just doesn't understand. Bro and the
Speaker 2: world go get out. Look at Deontay Johnson just bouncing
Speaker 2: around on Joe. He's going from the Steelers to Carolina
Speaker 2: to pitt from Steelers to Carolina to Baltimore to Houston, Houston,
Speaker 2: back to Baltimore.
Speaker 1: See, yeah, I gotta know I'm gonna get into I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get matter of fact, not this pickets too, Jamaine
Speaker 1: Jermaine Burton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you definitely get him because that's your that's
Speaker 2: your that's all, that's that's that's your neck.
Speaker 3: Of the woods.
Speaker 1: I got, I got, I got a realing boys in man,
Speaker 1: I got I got a reallym.
Speaker 5: In because listen, I had I had, I had the fun.
Speaker 1: I had the fun while I was playing right, But
Speaker 1: my driving, my motivation, and my energy was so locked
Speaker 1: in into my craft, into what I'm doing with nothing
Speaker 1: else mattered outside, nothing else, So I was able to
Speaker 1: I was there, but to get away with having the
Speaker 1: fun and doing all the said celebrating because not putting
Speaker 1: the work behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: I put in the work.
Speaker 3: I didn't just.
Speaker 2: Nobody said, oh, jo o Joe, you gotta place. Come on,
Speaker 2: o Joe, man, you gotta run that route. Come on,
Speaker 2: old Joe.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody to say that.
Speaker 5: No, no, no yet, no no.
Speaker 2: Maybe you had maybe the antics about celebrating, but hell
Speaker 2: you done, got the ball and the ends on, so celebrate.
Speaker 2: They just say, come on, O, Choe, Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 2: block that guy. Come on, Oh Joe, you gotta jump
Speaker 2: on that fumble. Bro, you just got come home. Bro,
Speaker 2: you gotta give it some effort. They didn't say that
Speaker 2: even t O. Nobody could plain about t O's effort
Speaker 2: on the field.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Now you can old go back and check the tape
Speaker 2: that he's running. He's throwing the block for Garrison Hurst
Speaker 2: on that ninety six yard touchdown, rows down, block it
Speaker 2: all the way down the field. You never questioned t
Speaker 2: O's effort. Now, maybe his attitude. Maybe people had a
Speaker 2: problem with the coaching staff and organizations had a problem
Speaker 2: with his attitude.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Even with Tio's effort, it couldn't trump the attitude that
Speaker 2: teams got tired of.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm pickens.
Speaker 2: Make this, bro, you got a chance to make two
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars before.
Speaker 5: You done one of them?
Speaker 3: What are you? Oh Joe? Can you can?
Speaker 2: I want you to ask an answer them. Where does
Speaker 2: the figures think he can go and make two hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars in the real world? He played on be
Speaker 2: a Pablo es Cabar Elchoppo.
Speaker 5: Hey, I got him.
Speaker 1: I'm a really man, I'm a real I'm a really
Speaker 1: I'm a really man. Watch him next year though, and
Speaker 1: what watching anyway?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: Back back, also back to the authors. Yeah, listen. Most
Speaker 1: of the time, most of the time, quarterbacks, coordinators and
Speaker 1: head coaches, most of the time they get along, even
Speaker 1: if they even if something. Most of the time they
Speaker 1: get along, even if you don't. You have one goal
Speaker 1: in mind, correct, long when you have one goal in mine,
Speaker 1: sometimes you know what, everybody ain't gonna Everybody ain't gonna.
Speaker 5: Be your friend.
Speaker 3: Everybody gonna get it.
Speaker 1: Man, That's not the way it works now. Even though
Speaker 1: it would make for a better relationship. You were there
Speaker 1: for one common goal, right, We want to win games
Speaker 1: and compete and do our best to get our ass
Speaker 1: of goddamn New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Correct, that's it. It definitely works better. It definitely helps.
Speaker 2: If y'all do get along, it definitely helps. It definitely helps.
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to understand you.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson came in and had success when he took
Speaker 1: up for Justin Fields.
Speaker 5: We didn't hear any gripes. We didn't hear any issues.
Speaker 1: So even if they didn't get along, whatever it may be,
Speaker 1: it was working just fine. Now towards the end, they
Speaker 1: lost the last five. They lost the last five games
Speaker 1: that made the playoffs, went home in the first round.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, because maybe you're saying because
Speaker 1: you lost, you know, the last five, Oh, maybe the
Speaker 1: relationship had a strength. No, because it was doing just
Speaker 1: fine as far from a productive standpoint.
Speaker 5: We were winning games.
Speaker 2: What happened? What did you say? Thats the best? The
Speaker 2: older reant for a funk kill the locker room win it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he winning cures all. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you're losing, it magnifies everything. It magnifies everything. So are
Speaker 1: they going to move on from Russell Wilson? Now do
Speaker 1: you think a change the scene is good for him
Speaker 1: at this point? And do you do they come back?
Speaker 1: And do you pay justin fields? Because it was only
Speaker 1: one year deal.
Speaker 2: So he's still on this rookie deal. He said he
Speaker 2: was still on his rookie deal. So this is a
Speaker 2: fifth year option coming up right now.
Speaker 5: Okay, so they got him. They got him for the low.
Speaker 1: It got him for the low coming up this year,
Speaker 1: maybe depending on what happens. He ain't no telling what
Speaker 1: they ain't no telling what they're gonna do. You don't
Speaker 1: know how Mike Thomas thinking. You know, you hear rumors
Speaker 1: about him leaving and being traded. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: it's so much get off money there, Titus Titus chill Man, Well,
Speaker 1: I choke you out.
Speaker 2: He owned one to night him and Teddy.
Speaker 3: You bothered him. I know. Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough, o Joe when you lose, because people start
Speaker 2: looking at Okay, this is why we lost, instead of saying,
Speaker 2: you know what, we just weren't good enough, right, I
Speaker 2: don't give a damn if Arthur Smith or Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: was best friend. They're going out to lunch every night
Speaker 2: and they take it turns eating dinner at each other's house.
Speaker 3: They weren't beating the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, none of none of that mattered. None of
Speaker 5: that mattered.
Speaker 2: They need more playmakers on the officer side of the football.
Speaker 3: They don't have nearly enough.
Speaker 2: And if you look at it, their defense down the
Speaker 2: stretch wasn't as vaunted as it was in the beginning.
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't and most of the time. Their identity had
Speaker 1: always been their defense. Yes, but they were a no
Speaker 1: show against.
Speaker 5: Right King Henry.
Speaker 1: They were a no show. I was able to watch
Speaker 1: some of the film today. You know some of the
Speaker 1: all twenty two you know, was so big. He was
Speaker 1: running through man listen, and I'm looking at the I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the backers.
Speaker 5: I'm like, come on, the play fake. Wasn't that good
Speaker 5: for you to?
Speaker 3: Oh so you?
Speaker 5: Oh you know what? I'm hey, they was folding on,
Speaker 5: they was folding the play fake.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that good for you to move that far the
Speaker 1: god damn hold when you know it just be you
Speaker 1: and twenty two come.
Speaker 2: On that Oh well no, when Lamar was faking the ball,
Speaker 2: they was like, oh Lamar got it.
Speaker 1: They gone, and not one attendant that Henry had on
Speaker 1: bro Hey, back and move right out, move right out
Speaker 1: the A gap. Now you know, good ware that play fake.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that goddamn good for you to be waved over
Speaker 1: the back. I'm not gonna say nothing, but you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I ain't really trying to be in the A gap
Speaker 2: when Henry had his ball that that I ain't tried
Speaker 2: to happen. Oh, Joe the door Statins approved of his
Speaker 2: father Dion, becoming the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: I think it would be cool.
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones are reporting conducting teams head coach search solo.
Speaker 2: Cowboys expected to interview Robert Sala if reports are to
Speaker 2: be true, to interview Leslie Fraser or he called Leslie
Speaker 2: Fraser at some point during the day.
Speaker 1: Well, I think Leslie Fraser will be better as a
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator as opposed to a head coach.
Speaker 5: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Look here, I honestly don't believe Jared Jones is hiring
Speaker 2: a black guy at the head coach. That's just me,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: And now he checking the boxes.
Speaker 2: Huh Remember he brought Marvinie in last year?
Speaker 3: Yeah, couple. Well, well before you hired McCarthy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, can I can I say something real quick?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: And Ryan spoken at the day in depth about the
Speaker 1: winning rule and how these coaches, how these owners know
Speaker 1: they don't want to hire hire minority coaches, but what
Speaker 1: they do like Robert Crafted with Pep Hamilton and Byron Leftwich, yep,
Speaker 1: not even in football.
Speaker 5: But you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna bring
Speaker 5: them in any way and check the boxes. That's why.
Speaker 5: That's why Aaron Glenn was like, you ain't ain't good.
Speaker 3: I don't need a free trip.
Speaker 5: You're not fna play me like that.
Speaker 1: I know you not hiring me. What you're doing is
Speaker 1: you meeting the guy damn quota. You're gonna bring me
Speaker 1: in interview me, and you already know you're gonna hire
Speaker 1: somebody else.
Speaker 5: You knew that bravery in the first place.
Speaker 3: Krep.
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's a whole nother story. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: open up that can of worms either.
Speaker 2: Now it's reported that Jerry Jones pitched to Mike McCarthy
Speaker 2: about having Jason Witten on his staff so Witten could
Speaker 2: be coaching waiting again. See what I said, Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: you hiring somebody and then you're telling him how to
Speaker 2: fill out his staff normally coaches. Okay, I got my guys.
Speaker 3: I've hired the staff. I like this guy's decordinate.
Speaker 2: I've worked well with him, running back coach, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I don't need you telling And it's been reported now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true. Jane Slater, she
Speaker 2: knows all things Cowboys. She's reporting that Jerry wanted Mike
Speaker 2: McCarthy to slash his staff. Uh uh, cut the coach,
Speaker 2: cut some of the coaches.
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you.
Speaker 5: Cut some of the coaches to save money or me?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: Cut him?
Speaker 2: Yes, because remember Jerry likes for his coaches to coach
Speaker 2: on incentives. He played. He pays far below market value.
Speaker 2: Right now, the market value for a head coach, now,
Speaker 2: it's about ten million dollars a year old show. That's
Speaker 2: kind of the going rate he tried to pay, y'all
Speaker 2: part he tried to pay five.
Speaker 5: Hold on, wait, bring that back to me again.
Speaker 1: Now, the going rate for the head coaches ten men
Speaker 1: or you mean the coaches collectively?
Speaker 2: No good, The going rate for head coach is about
Speaker 2: ten million. Okay, he tried to pay five.
Speaker 5: You can't. You can't do that, Jared.
Speaker 3: Says, Hey, Jerry say the Cowboys. You can.
Speaker 5: He can't get out of his own way.
Speaker 3: He can't. He can't help it.
Speaker 5: You can't.
Speaker 2: Like I said, look when I when I when when
Speaker 2: somebody report, when James Slater's reporting, I take it.
Speaker 3: I take it.
Speaker 2: The heart about the Cowboys with Mary kay Cabot when
Speaker 2: she's talking about Cleveland. Now, whatever she said about the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns cashing in, cashing in, cashing in. Damn man,
Speaker 2: Jerry's on this solo mission Jared. Look like I said,
Speaker 2: you see what Jared likes to do, O Joe. He
Speaker 2: likes to put you in a situation where you know,
Speaker 2: he know you's gonna say no, gonna accept that. Oh
Speaker 2: you woman, have this guy coaching waiting. He's probably telling
Speaker 2: going back, telling you everything that I'm doing. So that
Speaker 2: basically that's Jerry eyes. Because when Jerry's not there, which
Speaker 2: is all the time, now, I got eyes and ears
Speaker 2: there to tell me everything that's going on.
Speaker 3: Right. Uh No, he knew Mike McCarthy was gonna say
Speaker 3: no to that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he knows what he's doing. It's all the game, man.
Speaker 3: O Joe.
Speaker 2: Fans have been commenting commenting on Devonte adams Instagram, begging
Speaker 2: him to come back.
Speaker 5: To green Bay Reredda green Bay.
Speaker 3: You see a scenario where Davante goes back to Green Bay?
Speaker 5: Probably not probably not what maybe maybe because I think.
Speaker 1: Christian Watson's gonna miss, maybe miss most of twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: being that he got injured late in the season. So
Speaker 1: I think having Davonte Adams come back as a veteran
Speaker 1: presence with Dobbs and Wicks and Read and those young fellas.
Speaker 5: I think that would that would be dope, That would
Speaker 5: be nice.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what Doc Davonte gonna won't Davonte's
Speaker 2: gon want twenty five to thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3: You're paying that for a veteran present.
Speaker 1: I think I think that the GOHO somewhere where you know,
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation is intact. Yesat a good quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: I think they can work something.
Speaker 5: Now, it might not be thirty thirty five million, And.
Speaker 3: You know that's the cause.
Speaker 2: That's what It all depends on what Doc Davante is
Speaker 2: willing to pay for, right play excuse men like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you know they got that look Christian Watson's down.
Speaker 2: But they got Dobbs and they got they gotta Read.
Speaker 2: They got a lot of receivers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got some boys.
Speaker 3: They got a lot of receivers.
Speaker 5: They got some boys that they don't have a Devanta Adams.
Speaker 1: Now, no, they don't have that, not even at thirty
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever that Devonte Adams age is. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that good veteran presence that you know that
Speaker 1: can be consistently getting open, you know, consistently, would be
Speaker 1: a nice addition to that offense, especially for Jordan Love
Speaker 1: as a target and a security blank.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think, I think, I personally think Davonte
Speaker 2: is gonna have his uhs choice of locations.
Speaker 1: You gotta be, you gotta be, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: be careful, you gotta get this.
Speaker 5: At this point in your career.
Speaker 1: There are only so many teams you can go to
Speaker 1: that have a quarterback and when and when and you
Speaker 1: can get the ball. You've already got your money. You've
Speaker 1: got to nothing it at this point. So what is
Speaker 1: the end goal at this point in your career? You know, championship,
Speaker 1: contend for one.
Speaker 5: For get the money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all on him.
Speaker 5: That's that's the personal decision.
Speaker 1: Now. You want to be compensated well for your skill level,
Speaker 1: for your plate. You know you on want to be
Speaker 1: playing for peanuts, right, But you know that's that's when
Speaker 1: you have to sit down and think to yourself, think
Speaker 1: very hard. There are only so many quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: There are only so many spots for somebody for a
Speaker 1: player of his magnitude.
Speaker 2: That's something. He got two young kids. Uh, he got
Speaker 2: a wife. He's gonna ask okay, maybe, okay, we'll move it.
Speaker 2: You know, we're in Green Bay. Whether it's bad, we're
Speaker 2: in Vegas weather, it was good. Went to New York. Okay,
Speaker 2: because now you got kids, oh Joe, and you know
Speaker 2: the kids want to go outside. They don't want to
Speaker 2: be inside all the time. Yeah, you know, you go
Speaker 2: to a certainly ego Green Bay after November, they ain't
Speaker 2: going back outside to catch the school but us or
Speaker 2: you drop him off here school. That's the only time.
Speaker 2: What they gonna do, what they gonna do with Green Bay,
Speaker 2: same thing New York? What did so at least in Vegas? Hey,
Speaker 2: we outside? Yeah, And so I think that's the thing
Speaker 2: when you factor in he's very committed having what I having.
Speaker 3: Sit down and talk to him.
Speaker 2: I can see how he lights up when he talks
Speaker 2: about his family, talks about his wife, and he talks
Speaker 2: about his young kids. And I love seeing that. And
Speaker 2: so I know that's gonna be that's very, very important
Speaker 2: to him. And I think they're gonna have a that's
Speaker 2: gonna have a large, a large part to do with
Speaker 2: the decision where he's going to play next.
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: If I can get you know, twenty million and go
Speaker 2: to somewhere that I know I can win, it is
Speaker 2: better than taking twenty five considering the money that I
Speaker 2: may now say, I ain't telling nobody. Look that's you.
Speaker 2: Whatever's important to you. But I will say this, when
Speaker 2: it comes down to Hall of Fame, they start looking
Speaker 2: guys they got rings and have comparable numbers. They're gonna
Speaker 2: get the nod over a guy that doesn't have rings
Speaker 2: with comparable numbers. Right mmmm.
Speaker 1: I wish I wish you. I wish him the best
Speaker 1: where every decides to go. I'm gonna be a fan
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have a jersey.
Speaker 5: That's all I know.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, check this out.
Speaker 2: Groom surprised his bride with tickets to the Bills game,
Speaker 2: doing a wedding bow.
Speaker 3: Do you like this, o Cho, Yeah, yeah boy, Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's it's all about No, it's all about knowing your partner.
Speaker 3: For one.
Speaker 6: Sometimes I may have to hold on to a secret
Speaker 6: bonus gift to give you during your ceremony. We're going
Speaker 6: to see the bells seriously.
Speaker 5: A reaction.
Speaker 1: You see, man, You see that reaction. That's what it's
Speaker 1: all about. When when you have a partner, When you
Speaker 1: have a partner, that's her love language. Obviously loves football.
Speaker 1: Now she loves the Bills. She loved the Buffalo. How
Speaker 1: much a ticket to that to that Bill's Ravens game
Speaker 1: is she got.
Speaker 3: A really love Do you know how cold is gonna
Speaker 3: be at that game? Man?
Speaker 1: Man, listen and they might be from Buffalo, they might
Speaker 1: be Yeah, you know, so listen that.
Speaker 5: That's what it's all about.
Speaker 3: On Sunday.
Speaker 5: And they play at night too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's cold.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be cool cold.
Speaker 2: Last week and it was during the day, it was
Speaker 2: one o'clock, so I can imagine what it's gonna be
Speaker 2: at eight o'clock, eight thirty.
Speaker 3: I think that's game going eight thirty.
Speaker 1: Long long is it's no snow because there's no snow
Speaker 1: on the forecast, so they're gonna be all.
Speaker 5: Right, sixteen sixteen degrees.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably win, any win.
Speaker 5: That's good weather there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Week then you get Jiggy in sixteen.
Speaker 2: I showed them, I show, I show, I show, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I said show.
Speaker 3: Don't miss playing that cold.
Speaker 1: After I like it, bron I like it because I
Speaker 1: show hate September September in October for football season. At halftime,
Speaker 1: what do you think I had to get every halftime
Speaker 1: IV I cramp in my calves?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't. You know why I cramped a lot?
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, you know why you cramped because you don't
Speaker 2: like drinking when it's cold.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but this is the thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't cramp when it was cold. That's why I
Speaker 1: couldn't wait for the cor I couldn't wait for November.
Speaker 1: The d of November December, I couldn't wait.
Speaker 2: I cramped more in the cold than I did in
Speaker 2: the summer because when it's hot, you drink. When it's cold,
Speaker 2: you don't drink a lot of water. Okay, see my problem.
Speaker 2: My problem is I'm so locked in on the game.
Speaker 2: I don't even be drinking no goddamn water or gator rid.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: I'm man man no, I don't man no, move that out.
Speaker 2: Wait, yep, I know that's that's that's what happened to me.
Speaker 2: And it's like and Greek was like, sharp, are you drinking?
Speaker 2: I'm like nah, nah, Yeah, I don't try to aink
Speaker 2: when I'm cold. I'm trying to get over them heated seats.
Speaker 2: That's what I tried to do.
Speaker 5: And they told you about that. They told you about
Speaker 5: the pickle juice. They ever told you drink the pickle juice?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard about it. I don't. I don't like pickles,
Speaker 3: don't like no juice.
Speaker 5: You think you worked with cramps? What do you think?
Speaker 3: I ain't.
Speaker 5: I ain't never tried it. Or Pedia like pedlight was
Speaker 5: so damn nasty.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I heard a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: I mean, guy, weould have pedia light. But Gatorade.
Speaker 2: I said, you give me all this gatorade you knowne
Speaker 2: gave me two balls, three bottles of gate Raye waterlog.
Speaker 2: Now I'm done. I ain't got no more crap. But
Speaker 2: by step by stoppach slashing them. What do out there?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: You drink all that, you drink all that grade you
Speaker 1: feel sluggish?
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 3: No excuse me? I try to run? Come on, man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's that's weird.
Speaker 3: Bro oh Joe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember whomen epics Jersey swap with a young fan
Speaker 2: earlier this season. Well that jersey we don't sell online.
Speaker 2: Uh NBA Central said, this is crazy. Jersey is already
Speaker 2: up for auction. Winby tweeted the crime emoji hold on.
Speaker 1: Was a jersey sign or he just gave it to
Speaker 1: him without I think he signed it, didn't he. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, when when I think about this, the
Speaker 1: first thing I think about is little kid.
Speaker 5: This is probably probably his parents' idea.
Speaker 1: And all I can think about is the economy that
Speaker 1: we're in right now, being bad as it is. I understand,
Speaker 1: I kind of, I kind of understand. It's the opportunity
Speaker 1: for us to get a chunk of change. Look at them.
Speaker 5: Oh we tried to bite him.
Speaker 3: Yeah he did.
Speaker 5: Fight fight.
Speaker 2: Oh they're both they're super jealous. Now, why don't move
Speaker 2: the other to get more past than the other, he
Speaker 2: snapped at him. Now a funny on, y'all go upstairs
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, everybody want to be in here.
Speaker 3: Y'all was never in here?
Speaker 5: Hey, that is funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just could not, Yoe, somebody gave
Speaker 2: me a journey, Like I said, I mean, I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, the kid had to be courtside. So the
Speaker 2: kid's courtside? How how how how how tough is the economy? Oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: you buying court side ticket? But that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I don't think parents. Parents say I could afford to sit, sit,
Speaker 2: sit courtside. That's why I think it was more. It
Speaker 2: was probably a kid that was in the stands. I
Speaker 2: think it was a kid that was in the stands,
Speaker 2: you know, that enjoys the game of basketball, that got
Speaker 2: the jersey. And when he when he exchanged jerseys with
Speaker 2: the little kid, the parents right away understood, you know what,
Speaker 2: we can get some money for this. Well if you, hey,
Speaker 2: well so, why are you at the game. If the
Speaker 2: economy is so tough, why are you at the game? Anyway,
Speaker 2: There ain't no telling how they got tickets on that Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: if you ain't no telling how you got tickets, ain't
Speaker 2: no telling how you can find a way to solve
Speaker 2: that issue about this economy, because you found the way,
Speaker 2: right Yeah, yes, sir, Okay.
Speaker 5: The volume