WEBVTT - Best of No Ceilings Part 2 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.040 Piece of the planet, Charlamagne to God here and as 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.400 we come closer to closing out this year, I just 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:06.320 want to say thank you for tuning into the Black 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.000 Effect podcast Network. There have been so many great moments 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:10.840 over the past year. Take a listen to some of 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.840 those captivating moments in this special best of episode. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.079 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.160 Sealers Podcast with your host. Now, fuck that with your 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:33.880 loat glasses, Malone. No the way you look, because it'd 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.000 be people like that you, you know what I'm saying, 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.800 Like people your whole life. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:40.760 You feel me like that. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.680 You grew up loving their music, you know what I'm saying, 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:48.000 and you really to some level admiring the person that 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:48.480 they are. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:49.560 You know what I'm saying. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.280 That's the trick you. You'll really find yourself admiring somebody, 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.480 especially when they hone their craft, you know what I mean, 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.120 they and they talented. You'll be like, yeah, I respect that, 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.639 and then they do something Yeah they just like. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.399 Bro, why would you do that? Bro? Like? Who? Who? 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.480 Like you know how they say you got it? Like who? 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:10.520 You who? Your homies? 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:10.880 Dude? 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.440 Do niggas be that rich and that popular? Due they 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:19.240 homies not say nothing like like hey, my nigga, that's trash, 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:25.759 Like why you wearing that hair hat? Man? Or why you? 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.679 Why you why you painting your your beard or why 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.160 you It just be it just be a gang of 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:38.160 ship man. What up? Bro? Yeah, it'd be. But the 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.160 but the akon hat, it's crazy. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.520 And that's my man, like one hundred grand bro, Like 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.920 that's really my guy and it's not a but it. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.320 Looked like you could peel it if I seen him. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.240 I just want to peel it off, Like can let 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:51.880 me feel that? 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.320 Oh man, I'm telling you. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:57.920 That's why I said we should put him on I 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.960 Love La, because it'd be dope. Like people look at 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.280 certain artists and hip hop like and that's a perfect example. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.559 That's a hip hop artist, right. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.639 And normally we on our live streams and you know, 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.960 this is dope to to do the podcast, right, this 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.880 is just the audio portion, but it's dope, like you know, 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.839 to really have these conversations to that degree, like where 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:25.119 like with Cohn, like right, where like people like he's 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.320 a hip hop artist, you know, I mean even though 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.639 he don't rap in the traditional acons of hip hop artists, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.040 you know, like he could have an R and B sown, 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:35.560 But he's a hip hop artist. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.240 He was a rapper, wasn't he. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.000 I think at one time he did rap. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.200 But that's a perfect example of somebody who sings that 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:48.440 pretty much is a hip hop artist. And like, we 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.080 just really try to disregard me. And Twine was talking 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.120 about it earlier. Shout out to Oni Twine, you know 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.000 what I mean. On the podcast, y'all seen him a 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.720 couple of times on the live stream. He really hasn't 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.519 done a pod, so it's dope to have him on 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:05.000 on the first podcast and no selllings, but having him 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:06.600 like people, I'm telling the homie, I'm like, yeah, I 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.000 think I want to have a Kon sing. 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:09.679 I love l a song. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.640 He's like, man, we could get somebody more current, and 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:18.760 I'm like it's Akon. Like imagine you could get like 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.600 like uh, actual rolls or like one of them big 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:26.480 rock stars like uh like like, uh, what's the dude? 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.560 Uh who be dancing? They all feel like he danced 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:37.840 really well. No, no, the rock and roll dude can 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:38.600 dance really well. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.920 Y'all know Mick Jack, Mick Jagger, Oh, Mick Jagger can dance. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.600 I mean like white, white people, white people, you know 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:51.960 what I mean. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.760 And they feel like Mick Jagger got swagged like so, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.000 but imagine like some young rock group could get Mick 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:59.640 Jagger on the sothing like now we don't need to 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.080 get make Jagger, we need to get somebody new. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:03.600 It's like, Bro, it's Mick Jagger. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:10.200 Yeah that's yeah. Fuck with Mick Jagger current, He's never 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:10.800 not current. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.720 That's what I'm Akon is like Mick Jagger of hip hop. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.040 You know what I'm saying. It's like it's like you 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.480 can get a song with the locks, or I mean 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.400 you can get a song with g rap like these 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:22.560 dudes are permanent. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.080 And now hold on glasses. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:31.040 Now, I agree that that that a Kon is very prominent, 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.360 but he's not as quite as prominent as a Mick Jagger, 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.240 like MiG Jaggers and mc jagger got a Jagger got 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.240 like a fifty almost a sixty piece in the game 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:38.960 like and. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.440 Oh no, no, no, no, not that and don't know what 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.800 he looks like. Not comparing them to right, but I'm saying, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.279 what Mick Jagger is to rock is what Akon is 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:48.880 to hip hop. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.480 And again I have to disagree, Bro, I understand. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.760 But but what I'm saying is it's not the comparative 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.080 part that I'm really reaching for. 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.720 As much as he's prominent, he's somebody that you don't 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.320 pass up with when you have you. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:06.720 Have an opportunity to work with period and especially as 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.240 a as a person. What he does with records, I mean, 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.599 his ability to make a record special, it's like that 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:13.400 don't wear off. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.240 Like Mick Jagger, it don't wear off. 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.960 Now you can look at their own run and say, oh, 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:22.200 you know what, Oh, they're not making the biggest records 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.600 on their own. But that's not the point. The point is, 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.160 you can make a great rock record with Mick Jagger today. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.560 You can make a great rock record with you know, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.880 actual roles, like you can make a great rock record 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.200 with some of the greatest, Like right now, I want 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.000 to do that song like I was telling you with 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.719 a with Siegert, with Bob Seger, like I feel like 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.560 I can make a smash hit record in hip hop 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.039 with Bob Seger today. You know what I mean, because 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.360 if you know what you're doing with the record, voices 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:53.960 be voices. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.240 I can make a hit record with Stevie Wonder today. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.720 It don't matter when Stevie had his last hit record 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.880 on this on like if you know, if you have 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.719 the right record for Stevie Wonder. His voice is permanent. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.320 It can be the number one song in the country 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.640 of Stevee. And it's a few artists that have ascended 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.159 to that level. Akon is one of those artists where 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.600 he's so prominent. He was so successful on a mainstream 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:22.279 level in pop records. His sound is forever like He'll 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.600 always beat it like what it is for people that 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.080 like that music, you know what I mean? And I 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.120 just feel like in hip hop again, when you don't 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.320 get it. And this was a conversation it was happening 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.800 earlier where you think you know hip hop because you 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.520 watch some rap videos. You think you know hip hop 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:42.000 because you know you saw something on Rap City, you 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:43.960 know what I mean, or you heard some songs. It's 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.599 like you just know the letter, you know the letter 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.279 of hip hop. You don't know the spirit of it 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.800 until you really go sit down in the bronx and 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:55.280 somebody really give it, give you what's going on. And 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.799 I just feel like at this time, no, we don't 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.400 have that. Like everybody he just feels like they know 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.880 what's going on, or they just disregarded as nothing and 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:15.440 it's too powerful to be nothing. So we did us 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.240 live stream and it was based off a conversation I 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.160 was having with one of my young homies, my little 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.160 brother a d He has a stream, a live stream 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:28.960 called the Community with my homeboy Pun and we were 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.560 having a conversation about what was going on with Dirt. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.520 Dirt got arrested for murder for hire. Dirk was a 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:41.520 wrapper in Chicago, you know exactly, and he was saying 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:49.720 that the beef Dirk and Young Boy, their crews started 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.560 over a girl. They were sleeping with the same girls, 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:57.120 and you know, some happened somewhere along the line. They 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.560 got loos and people start talking crazy and everybody cruise, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.920 people around the cruise start talking crazy. So now it's 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:07.320 King VN who was part of Dirt Cruise Quandoronto was 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.840 a part of Young with They were all cool at first, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.360 and they start talking crazy to each other, you know 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:18.200 what I'm saying. And they go to Atlanta and the 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.960 Chicago brothers go to Atlanta Ron and they get into 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.680 a confrontation with Rondo cost King v his life. Yes, 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:30.200 so Quando Rondo you know, year a year or two later, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:35.439 comes to California to do some business and his transportation 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.880 that he's riding in through to do the business within 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.600 the city. They near Century City, the whole truck gets 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:46.800 shot out with fully automatic weapons. Okay, and that's the 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.440 charge that Dirk is, you know, being in dice, that 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.120 he organized, that he economically financed that that happened. Okay, 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.599 So they got what's supposed to be allegedly is the 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.680 shooters and have him for order for hire. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:06.280 He was ad. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.240 My little brother was telling me that was a lot 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:13.760 to go through, you know, over a girl, and I'm like, well, 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.840 it's not really over the girl, you know what I mean, 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.440 It's really over the stuff people say around the girl. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.960 We start having a conversation and I was saying, like, 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:27.160 if if we're together, you, if somebody sleeps with you 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.520 and they know I exist, they know me, no, they 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.120 don't have to be my friend. If they know me 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.960 and they know we're together and they sleep with you, 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.760 not only are you disrespecting me, they're disrespecting me right. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:43.240 And I believe in the universe where the people disrespect 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:48.520 you purposely, they will keep doing it. Right. So the 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:56.640 harmonious thing to do is to erase you off the planet. Okay, 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.679 not the vengeful thing, because vengeance would be that I'm 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.440 doing it because you did this. The harmonious thing is, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.520 in my mind, is you will keep disrespecting me because 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.600 you should have respect for me. I haven't did anything 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.400 to you for you to disrespect me. The harmonious thing, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:15.000 the justice thing, would be to erase you off this planet, 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.160 so you can't keep deflating who I am every day 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.280 by taking advantage of whoever whatever goodness you think lies 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:27.360 inside of me. And that's the difference between vengeance and 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:32.280 street justice, right, because you have regular societal justice where 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.560 everybody agrees on laws and then they have prisons and 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:41.400 courts and juries and prisons and jails to help them 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.760 issue out that level of harmony through justice. Well, in 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.679 the streets there's the same space. And we were talking 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:54.040 about Dirk situation and saying it was more you started 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:58.400 to pursue it differently, like there is a level of 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.280 street justice that should happen. But street justice, again is 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.920 still as harmonious as anything else. It's like when you 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.880 go to a real courthouse and instead of you like R. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:13.559 Kelly or Puff right where instead of them being held accountable, 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.040 like Puff should be held accountable for combing his old 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.240 lady here in the hotel lobby and da da da, 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.800 and that should be like if they have a federal 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:26.280 assault charge or the solicitation of prostitution, those are all 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:30.720 fair charges, you know, possession of drugs, possession of guns, 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.760 those are fair charges based off of evidence, versus them 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:39.640 railroading him with a RICO where it's a racketeering charge 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.480 for organization and there's only one person being charge, so 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.280 that would be a one person organization. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:45.959 Same for R. 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.240 Kelly where instead of him just being charged for child 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.920 pornography because if you sleep with a girl under the 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.600 age of sixteen on a camera, you know, it don't 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:59.640 matter she can't consent, it's child or not federally which 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.560 carries seven years and other stuff which R. Kelly should 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.000 be in prison eight to twelve years. You feel me, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.840 But because you allow white folks to carry out vengeance 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.680 against a nasty thing that they have against brothers in 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.760 this country since they was buying them by the dozens. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.800 You know, in Virginia you have people mistreating and you 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.080 have a like a like a trail of vengeance that's 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.800 happening where it's all mistreatment. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:26.760 So instead of R. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.080 Kelly getting the eight to twelve years that he deserves 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.240 based off the crime, he gets more time than Sammy 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.640 the boy Girvano has for murdering you know, nineteen people. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.640 He almost has forty years instead of R. Kelly, you know, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:44.320 getting eight to fifteen years for you know, having a 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:50.040 consistent history of soliciting prostitution and you know, using drugs 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.160 or possessing drugs or having guns with serial numbers scratched 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.720 off which carries ten years federally or any that stuff. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.920 So that eight to fifteen years that he should be facing, 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:05.000 he's facing a lot. That's to me, white vengeance or 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.400 systemic vengeance, you know, like we still can get these 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:09.320 niggas when we can. 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:10.840 Yeah. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.959 And he was just saying to me and Pete like, Okay, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.720 well that sucker if you do that over your girl, 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.679 because a girl gonna be a whole and you shouldn't 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.840 be mad at no man. I'm like, well, I wouldn't 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.720 be upset at the man for what my old lady is. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.120 I'd be upset at the man for disrespecting me knowing 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.320 that this is my lady, and he was saying like, oh, well, 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.720 you know you don't you disrespect that given his earn. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.000 I'm like, that's street, that's not real. Like, you should 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.960 respect every man even before they've earned it. You should 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.160 only disrespect the man that you've lost respect for. Yeah, 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:51.240 but if you disrespect the man that immediately in y'all 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.520 first interaction, you know what I mean? You could take 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.160 advantage of that. And so Pete was gonna give me 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.640 a story fast forward again to the back mama where 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.160 he felt like, oh, well, if my friend sleeps with 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.080 my baby mother, and I'm like, well, what difference do 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.319 it make if y'all lot together? Like why does that body? Well, 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.560 he's betraying our friendship. I'm like how He's like, well, 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.560 you know, I don't care about her, but he will 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.600 be betraying our friendship. I'm like, well, if you don't 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.240 care about her, and Pete was asking the same thing, 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:23.320 you don't care about her? Yeah, right? And this is 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.600 your friend and he has positive intentions for this woman, 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:32.040 why does it body? And what I was telling Pete 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.920 and I was telling still on the live stream, the 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.320 truth is you love her, and he was like, well no, 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.280 because I'm not sleeping with the once we break up. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.840 I'm like, sleeping with somebody is not with love is 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.720 about that's self gratifying. Like you can make that type 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:51.320 of act about somebody else, but for the most part 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.320 is self gratifying. When you have to do things for 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.400 people and you get nothing, it's true love. And I'm like, 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.520 the reality is you stid and it's like, oh, well, 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.080 why would I love her, you know, just because. 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:04.320 We had a kid. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:09.800 I'm like, yes, and me and Pete were just talking 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.800 to him, you know. And obviously the audience that's listening 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.840 to the stream immediately went to a space like where 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.960 they must stand by this versus us saying if you 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.680 don't care trying to get him to say you love 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.400 your kid's mother, which could make you think twice about 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.840 just getting somebody pregnant or at least want I mean, 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:33.200 if not love, at least can see that you want 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:37.360 her on some degree. I think you love him. I 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:42.120 think I don't care what nobody say. There's no way 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.920 possible somebody can give you extended lineage on the planet 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:56.440 Earth and you don't love them for it. Nah. So's 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.600 it's weird listening to it because right. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:15:59.040 It's like. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.640 I've been saying this for years, you know, and I 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.760 get a lot of pushback to me on I get 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.320 a ton of pushback on all of this because of that, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:20.600 you know what I mean, Like, where's like it ain't 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.360 on purpose. I just think that he got into a 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:29.760 space to where it's like people have been complaining about 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.360 hip hop being like like an advocate of like violence 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:38.280 in the community or promoting drug use, like you know, 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.960 rich Homi Kwan passed away from Atlanta, and you know, 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.560 when something like that happens, the first thing is like, well, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.480 let's look at the music, and it's like, well, what 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.560 was happening before the music? You feel me like why 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.680 were people on drugs in the sixties and seventies or 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:55.240 in the fifties. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.480 Yeah, they never talked about like the music going on 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.640 when Kirk Cobain blew out his own brains, they never 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:02.560 they never mentioned that it was the music. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.359 Well, I think white people kind of did. But again 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:13.919 it's like it's like really silly. I mean, the artist 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.560 very reflective of said community. But the point I was 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.640 making is and in that situation with Dot and Drake 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:25.000 is like, but Dot and Drake is like Drake that 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.119 just pretty much you know, said, hey, you know he 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.840 pulled the carpet. You know, he he had been standing 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.280 on this rug that we call cultural cachet this whole time. 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:36.439 M hm. 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.879 He just snatched the rug from like, man, you're not 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.760 the culture boom and then you know, so he couldn't 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.960 really there was nothing to stand up on them now, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.200 And I think that's what we're looking at, like hip 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.120 hop is still rooted and poor people making things cool. 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.760 That that don't mean hip hop is only poor people, 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.280 but the culture of it comes from poor people. The 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.320 language comes from you know, the majority of the which 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.920 come from you know, because it's bad educational program the fashion, 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.000 it's taking ship, that's that you you know, if parents 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.400 can't afford, but you know, some dickies and putting creases 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:10.600 in them, you knowing. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:11.720 Rocking it with pride. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.400 You know, it's not the chucks themselves, it's the fat 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.200 laces and the chucks. So you know, that's what that 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:23.640 pride and that type of struggle is really where hip 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.240 hop is different. You know, how can these people be 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:30.200 so happy under these circumstances. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:35.520 I think, and I think that's that gets lost. That's 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.119 lost now you know, and that's and that's why people 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.320 start to, oh, well, hip hop isn't just only poor people, 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.199 and hip hop isn't only just from the hood, and 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.400 hip hop isn't only this and that, And it's like, actually, 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.639 like at the core essence of it, if that's what 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.760 we're that's literally what it came from, you know, and 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:55.880 we've talked about that. 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:56.159 You know. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.640 I was like your slogan that you're not it's not slogan, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.320 but you're the the way you set it up, you 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.280 say it's a street or urban street, urban culture, but 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.800 there's more to it, personify through the arts of elements, 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.000 per through the arts and element so like. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.679 The actual act itself is not really hip hop, like 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.640 being you know, street urban culture. But once you put 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.880 it into the arts of elements, that's when you start 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.160 seeing the artistic expression that we reference as hip hop. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.760 And that's the part that gets confused, I think for people, 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.760 because then they just go, well, if I can just 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.160 do the art part of it, then I'm hip hop, 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.960 and that's not necessarily true. Now. 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:38.560 I think you used to use this term was ah shit, 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:39.680 what is it? Was like a. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:42.280 What did you say? 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.720 You used to say it was like, when you're not 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.800 from a product of hip hop, a product of hip hop. 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.240 Yeah, it's a ton of people who enjoy the music 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.600 and they are not hip hop, you know, just because 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.280 you know, my favorite food is Mexican food, Bro, That 0:19:58.359 --> 0:19:59.400 don't make me Mexican. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:19:59.600 Bro. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.480 I don't care how many tacos I get, how many 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.399 you know, it don't matter. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.840 But most people in the Mexican community would give you 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:13.000 a pass and say that you are an honorary Mexican. 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.040 And I think that a lot of people in hip 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.560 hop want that because Drake was low key kind of 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.560 getting that until I feel like it almost seemed like, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.560 I mean, I don't know, because I don't know him personally, 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.240 but it seemed like he started getting under people's skin 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.040 by doing things where he started thinking he was bigger 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.560 and not and doing things that he didn't remember, like, Yo, 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.640 low Key, you kind of a guess, bro, even though 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.880 you're mixed. Yeah, okay, you have Jewish. 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:40.200 You have black. 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.520 That's cool, but but that don't make you hip hop 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:43.920 like that. 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.679 Well again, I don't think the mixed part of it 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:53.080 is the problem. It's it's it's the culture part. How 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.200 do you grow up culturally. I mean, if you grew 0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:00.280 up in Jewish culture. You know, if a Rabbish already 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.680 rapping about his Jewish experience, I think we would enjoy 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.600 it and we love to claim it, but it probably 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:07.880 would be Jewish. 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.280 Well, I think what's his name made a comment about that, 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.600 and I thought that was pretty Rosenberg. And he was like, 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.159 he's like, I know a guy that grew up in 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.600 like cause he's Jewish. So he was basically saying like 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.960 he could identify and he said Drake got upset at 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.680 that because he was like, like, I understand that he 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:27.639 doesn't like that. 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:31.320 I can see who he really is. Yeah, it's like, 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:32.399 nothing's wrong with that. 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:37.400 Again, but again, if you're trying to present yourself as 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:41.760 the poor people culturally, I mean, and and did he 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:45.240