1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hello, Casey O'Brien, Hi, Miliated Jericho. How are you? 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Oh great? I mean you know what we're doing right now? 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are doing a new podcast. You and I 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: both of us making a movie podcast together. It's thrilling, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: it's terrifying, and uh, it's liberating all at once. That's right. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is our very first episode and we're really 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: excited because we've got a lot of stuff to cover. 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: First off, we're gonna kick off the show with something 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: we're calling Film Diary, and I was wondering, Casey, can 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: you tell them what it is? 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? I can do that. This is our the movies 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: we've watched, like in the last week, and we're gonna 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: be discussing the movies we have most recently watched. Now, 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: these are not necessarily recommendations. This is just like our extracurriculars. 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: These are our studies as film enthusiasts. You know, we're 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: trying to, like mine through all of film, of all 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: of time. You know, both of us were both students 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: of film. So these aren't necessarily recommendations. Some of these 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: might suck, frankly, a. 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: Lot of them will probably a lot of them. 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: Well, yes, you gotta break a lot of eggs, kiss 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: a lot of frogs. 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Also, we're going to talk about drinking in the movies, 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: so you know, movies that feature complete drunks or people 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: that are trying to get off the stuff. Whatever it is, 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about it. But we're also 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: going to really like hammer into one movie in particular, 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: and that is twenty eighteen's US Star Is Born, featuring 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper. And we might even talk 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: a little bit about Bradley Cooper as a director as well. 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: And today we have the wonderful comedian in Chile with Sharp. 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: She's on to talk about her area of expertise, which 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: was important to both of us when you say, Millie. 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: Oh yes, we had a very emotional conversation with Chilea. 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: How about a topic that is, you know, near and 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: deer to all of our hearts, which is the Magic 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: Mike franchise. 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: Oh so fabulous. Much more to come on Dear Movies, 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I Love You, Dear. 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: I Love you, and I've got to. 41 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Love me to. 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: Check the box. Welcome everyone to Dear Movies, I Love You. 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: This is a podcast for those who are in a 44 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: romantic relationship with film. 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: That's right. Those who are down bad for film, those 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: who have a crush on film, those are using movies 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: as a way to fill your sexual and amorous holes 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: into your life. I don't know if that's the right 49 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: way of expressing that, but it's for those who sincerely, 50 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: sincerely love film and about it very deeply. 51 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: That's right. I am one of your hosts, Millie to Jericho. 52 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: I used to host a film podcast. Yep. It was 53 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: called I Saw What You Did. It was on this 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: very network. It's probably on the feed that you're listening 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: to right now. 56 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: This is the same feed. It's the same channel. 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go back and listen to all two 58 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: hundred something episodes of it if you want to. But 59 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: I did that podcast with my co host Daniel Henderson, 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: who is one of my dearest friends. And Casey, you 61 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: were a part of that podcast too. You were actually 62 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: the producer of that podcast, right. 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: That's right. I produced that wonderful podcast. And this is 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, a phoenix rising out of the 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: ashes of I Saw What You Did. And I'm just 66 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: so thrilled and thankful that you wanted to have me 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: be a part of this show. Millie in this capacity. 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: That's right. I mean, you know, it's not unlike a 69 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: star is born if you think about it. I did 70 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 2: find you in a total dump, yeah, plucked you out 71 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: of obscurity and put you on That's right. But anyway, 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: the thing about doing a podcast with you is that 73 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: this is like a new thing. I'm very excited by it. 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: I know a little bit about you. I won't say 75 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: I know everything about you, but I do know that 76 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: you've got a lot of film bonafides, which makes you 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: qualify a toast podcast with me, wouldn't you say? 78 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: Sure? I guess so. First of all, I produced an 79 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: excellent movie podcast before this one called I Saw What 80 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: You Did. As we've already covered, I've produced several movie podcasts. 81 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: But also, like you, Millie, I went to film school, 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: and so hopefully, you know, we can throughout the course 83 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: of this podcast, we can get some of those, like 84 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, film school tales, and we can bring up 85 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: our time in film school, because that's sort of a 86 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: funny time in everyone's life. So anyways, went to film school. 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: I also would consider myself a filmmaker, would because I 88 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: do make short films and I'm working on a feature 89 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: film right now, and I really love movies. They're a 90 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: big part of my life and my creative identity. I 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: also used to host a film podcast that's called fart 92 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: House where we talked about artsy fartsy films, and I 93 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: did that with my friend Patrick mallin. 94 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: What's up Patrick? Listen, like you might be wondering. I mean, 95 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: I think obviously if you're a fan of iesolog did 96 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: you have heard many episodes where Danielle and I had 97 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: talked about you know, film bros. You know, you know 98 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: the type film bros. Sure, we're trying to, like, you know, 99 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: bring some other people to the table. And so for me, 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: the idea that I would be hosting a new film 101 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: podcast with a guy who went to film school, you know, 102 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: might be kind of unexpected. But guess what, you're a 103 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: good one. You're not a film bro. 104 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. 105 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: You're not a film bro. I will stand by that 106 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: one thousand percent. 107 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Millie. I think that 108 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: it's not unlike Wharf in Star Trek. You know, he's 109 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: a Klingon and a lot of people have you know, 110 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: thoughts about him. As you know, the Klingon race is 111 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: very violent, but you know, people just need to understand 112 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: that Wharf is a gentle soul, and you know, over 113 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: time they accept him. 114 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: So I'll just be plain honest with you. Have no 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: idea what you just said. I've never seen star Trek 116 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: in my entire life. 117 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: That's fine. I won't bring it up again on the show. 118 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: But anyways, I appreciate that. And I think you know 119 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: more than just film brodum. You know, I think there's 120 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: a kind of there can be kind of a lot 121 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: of rules in terms of and they're all imagined of course, 122 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: but like there's a lot of pressure to think about 123 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: movies in a very specific way. A lot of that is, 124 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: you know, it tends to be from like a more 125 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: male point of view, and it's kind of like these 126 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: are the good movies, these are the bad movies. If 127 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: you like these movies, you're cool. If you like these movies, 128 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: you drool, you know. And I think this podcast wants 129 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: to kind of dash away any sort of pretension or 130 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, rules about what you need to do in 131 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: order to consider yourself a lover of movies. You know, 132 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: if you sincerely love a movie, even if it's considered 133 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, a bad movie by some that should be celebrated, 134 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: and that's what this podcast is about. It It's about 135 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: like enjoying film at all levels. Yes, you know what 136 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 137 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: I agree, and I also think it's important to say that, 138 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I think obviously the title of 139 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: this podcast here Movies, I Love You, the icon that 140 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: pops up when you pull it up on your podcast platform. 141 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: You know, the idea that one of our favorite bands 142 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: of all time, the Softies, has done the wonderful theme song. 143 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: It all contributes to this idea of like again having 144 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: a crush on a film, having an emotional relationship to movies, 145 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: and how movies are a big part of people's lives 146 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: and they help them through like hard times and good times. 147 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I cry all the time in movies and 148 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: they don't have to be sad. I cry at happy movies. 149 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: I cry it sweet movies, I cry it you know, 150 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: violent films. Like I am such an emotional person that 151 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: I you know, I've realized this over several years of therapy. 152 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: I'm a very emotional person. And I think kind of 153 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: what you're alluding to, like with the things that you've 154 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: just said, is that like a lot of times, you know, 155 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: film is one of those mediums where people feel like 156 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: they got to be like super analytical or they have 157 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: you know, they got to come at it in a 158 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: very kind of sterile way in order to seem legitimate 159 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: or something. And I'm like, fuck that. We should be 160 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: talking about our crush on movies and talking about how 161 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: much we love it and how much they get us 162 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: through our lives and how they're a part of our lives. 163 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: So that's what it's. 164 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: Gonna be, guys. It's not gonna be this whole like, well, 165 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: the box office numbers from nineteen eighty nine show that 166 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: this movie did five percent better. Fuck that. I mean, 167 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: if that comes up, it comes up. But for the 168 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: most part, you know, we're gonna be a little sensitivo. 169 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna be sensitivo. I'm a very emotional person, 170 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: you know. I've said before that I consider myself a 171 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: soft straight I'm a softy, and I love rom Coms 172 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: are like kind of my favorite genre of film. But 173 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: I also I'll throw on Salo. Wait, who's the director 174 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: of Salo Pasolini? Pasolini, which is a movie that is 175 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: one of the most I don't know, sexually violent and 176 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: perverse and there's a lot of like eating poop in it, 177 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: and uh. 178 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: Great date night movie. 179 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: Great date night movie. But it's a very extreme art 180 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: house movie from the seventies. Is that one it's from? 181 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: But anyways, you know, I can throw on that movie 182 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: as much as I can throw on you know, Sleepless 183 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: in Seattle, a movie I truly love. So I think 184 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: this is more about the emotional connection to film rather 185 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: than any sort of intellectual debate or study of film. 186 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: If that all makes sense. 187 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: It all totally makes sense. 188 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we are intellectuals, we're emotional intellectuals, exactly, That's right. 189 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that is what brings us 190 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: together and why we thought this show would be good 191 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: is because I think we both seem so tough and 192 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: hard on the outside, but on the inside we're just 193 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: we're marshmallows. You know, We're a big softies. 194 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: We're not unlike John Wick, if you know what I mean. 195 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: We're exactly like in so many ways, We're exactly like 196 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: John that's right. 197 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: But you know what, also, I like about you, Casey, 198 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: and part of the reason why I poached you from 199 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: the film podcast streets to be on a podcast with 200 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: me I like that you understand that high art and 201 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: low art they both are able to sit at the 202 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: same table. You know what I'm saying. 203 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah. I think that way about food too. 204 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: I agree. 205 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: I used to work at a very fancy restaurant in 206 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: La Jelina and love the food there. But I'm a 207 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: frequent McDonald's. I'm in there getting a McRib you know, 208 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: on the regular when it's there. So yes, I agree, 209 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: high and low they're the same. They sit at the 210 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: same table. 211 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: For me, if I were to like talk about my 212 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: own career and the things that I've done, like programming 213 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: and writing and things like, you know, sort of being 214 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: sort of general film historian type, I think that's kind 215 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: of how I approach That's how I approach film, is 216 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: that I'm like, I want to speak in a smart, 217 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: intellectual kind of I don't know, competent way about all 218 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: kinds of shit. It can be high brow, but it 219 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: also there is a way to talk about show Girls 220 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: and ed Wood and you know, ye like truly depraved 221 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: cinema at the same time that you talk about I 222 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: don't know, more sort of intellectual fair kind of criterion collection, 223 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 2: any type of things, if you. 224 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: Will, yes to me. 225 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: That's kind of what I like about us both is 226 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: that we're able to kind of get you a man 227 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: that can do both type of feeling. 228 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So and all are welcome at this table, all 229 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: levels of filmdom. We'll be excited to listen to this show. 230 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk about, you know, art house filmmakers like ingmar Bergman, 231 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: but we'll also talk about silly movies like Adam Sandler's 232 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: Who Be Halloween. I don't know, that's just an example 233 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: a movie I like who But anyways, that's sort of 234 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: the crux of our new podcast, our new endeavor together, 235 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: and we're psyched. We psyched about it. 236 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: We just wanted to do a little intention setting before 237 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: we rolled out all the other episodes. But hopefully you're 238 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: on the ride with us. I mean, if you liked 239 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: I saw what you did, you're gonna like this podcast. 240 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: So we're excited. Here we go, We're excited to be here. 241 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Well, moving on, our first segment is called film Diary, Millie. 242 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: One way of keeping track of the movies we've watched 243 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: is on a social media app that we both use, 244 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: and I'd love if listeners followed us on there because 245 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: the comments I'm making on these movies are hilarious, cannot 246 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: be ignored. Yeah, they can follow us on there. You 247 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: like letterbox as an app, you use it, you're a user. 248 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm a user, of course. I talked about this on 249 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: my substack once about how I probably use letterbox in 250 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: the wrong way, which is that I'm not like consistently using. 251 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: So here's letterbox right. If you haven't been on it before, 252 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: It's basically a way for you to kind of catalog 253 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: the movies that you've seen. You know, there's an ability 254 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: to rate it like five star, you know, one to 255 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: five stars or no stars. You can leave reviews. There's 256 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: a kind of social component to where you can friend 257 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: other people and see what they've been watching and see 258 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 2: what they've been reviewing. So it's kind of just like 259 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: a big social media platform for movie nerds. 260 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: And there are. 261 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: Definitely power users out there who are writing like thousand 262 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: word essays on every movie they've seen. Yes, I am 263 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: real Lucy Goosey about it. I definitely catalog everything that 264 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: I've seen, so my film diary is always accurate. Am 265 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: I reviewing things all the time? No Am I writing 266 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: intelligent things in those reviews? No Am I rating it 267 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: with the star system, not all the time. That's another 268 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: topic for another time. By the way, is the star 269 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: rating system on letterbox Maybe that's a film grape we 270 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: can talk about. Sure, yes, because it's very contentious and 271 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: I've gotten called out on it before, But please find 272 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: us on there because it's a way for us. We're 273 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: going to be like talking about Letterboxed a lot because 274 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: this is like again where we're cataloging what we've seen. 275 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: But first and foremost, I have to say, Casey, I 276 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,239 Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this at all, but it took. 277 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: You eight I'm going to be upset that you're bringing 278 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm an upset that you're bringing people. Continue no, that. 279 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: It took you a very long time to friend me 280 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: back on letterbox. 281 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: So MILLI followed me on. And it's not exactly like 282 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: you're not really friends on a letterbox. You basically follow 283 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: someone and then they can follow you back. It's not 284 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: like accepting a friend request on Facebook and you're mind, 285 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: it's not it was for me, okay, Well, Milly had 286 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: followed me on letterboxed and I went about my life 287 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: after that after and I don't know if I missed 288 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: the notification or something. But it took me maybe a 289 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: year before I followed you back, and I mentioned it 290 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, MILLI, isn't it funny. I just 291 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were on letterbox. I can't believe 292 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: it took me so long to follow you back, and 293 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: you were like, yeah, I noticed. 294 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: It was an offensive amount of time that went by, Like, 295 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: let me just tell you right now, I had not 296 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: only readed you, but it actually commented on one of 297 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: your reviews. 298 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: I know, I think I had just I assumed I 299 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: had followed you back. I think that's what happened. I 300 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: think I had assumed. There's no way I didn't follow 301 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: you back, but I fucked up. I don't know what 302 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: you want me to say here. 303 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, we work on a film podcast together. 304 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: We're like in communication pretty much every other day. I know, 305 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: I friended this guy because I want him to feel 306 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: included in what we're fucking doing around here, and it 307 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: took him a year to follow me back. Anyway, I'm 308 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: just I'm just saying, sure that broke me for a while, 309 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: but then you fix itself and I forgive you, and 310 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: now we're obviously doing a podcast together. 311 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: Now we're having a podcast together. 312 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: I've let it go well, and like there's other functionality 313 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: on there too that like you can come up with lists. 314 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm a big list person. 315 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Yes. 316 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: I also you know, like I actually love the review 317 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: component because there are people, like I said, who are 318 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: using it like as like they're writing for Rogerdieber dot 319 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: com type of thing. But then there are people who 320 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: are like putting one two sentences about, you know, the 321 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: thing that they've watched. 322 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: That's how I do it. I do one or two sentences, 323 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: and I like that. I prefer that as a user 324 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: to read. I don't really want to read an essay 325 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: on here, to be honest. 326 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: Oh I know. And a lot of times it's like 327 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: and this is the way I do it, but the 328 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: other people do it this way too. It's like the 329 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: funniest observation about a movie. Yes, and I actually had 330 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: one go sort of VIVI. I gotta say, wow, my 331 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: review for a Complete Unknown where I talked about I 332 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen it yet, I won't spoil. 333 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: It haven't seen it. 334 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: Well, there's a moment of that movie that happens which 335 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: is a non spoiler, but it was like the weirdest 336 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: thing to me. That was like the one thing I 337 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: couldn't stop thinking about, and then I wrote it and 338 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, it's like ping, ping, ping, 339 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: Everyone's like, we love it, we love the review. So 340 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: that's what I like about Letterboxes that it's kind of 341 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: like again, I think it's a high low where you 342 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: could either be really like deliberate and professional about it, 343 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: or you can be a fucking goon like me. 344 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, here's kind of one of my favorite reviews. 345 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: This is ao Ata Biri. If you ever follow, she's 346 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: a great follow on Letterbox. This is her review of 347 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: The Empire Strikes Back. This movie is great, but I 348 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: was really shocked by how ugly Yoda was. Sorry if 349 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: that pisses anybody off, but I had only seen baby 350 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: Yoda and adult Yoda is fucking busted. I mean that's 351 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: the whole review. So it's great. Yeah. Anyways, this isn't 352 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: an ad for Letterbox, but we love it and I 353 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: use it all the time, and it's where I keep 354 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: track of all the movies I've watched in the past. 355 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: That's right. I mean, if the Letterbox wants to give 356 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: us a check, we'll take it. But I'm just saying, 357 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna be using. Let's go into 358 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 2: this film diary. 359 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Fabulous. 360 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: So in the past week, I've gone down this like 361 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: kind of strange rabbit hole. So I discovered this Japanese 362 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: director recently. And I don't actually know how I discovered it. 363 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm following some kind of Instagram account 364 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: that's like an Asian film archive. I think it's actually 365 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: what it's called. And they posted a trailer or something 366 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: about this movie. And the movie is called Hawu hr 367 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: U okay. It was directed by this Japanese director. His 368 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: name is Yoshi Mitsu Marita Okay. This movie's from nineteen 369 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: ninety six. And for some reason, when I saw the trailer, 370 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: I was like, this seems so charming, Like I think 371 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: his filmography, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not like a 372 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: scholar on him yet. But he was making movies in 373 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: like most of his movies came out in like the 374 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: eighties and nineties, which is a real for me, kind 375 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: of like a gap I don't I have, you know, 376 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: I started thinking, like have I watched a lot of 377 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: Japanese movies from the eighties and nineties, like and then 378 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: as the more I kind of was reading about him 379 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: and sort of that era. I think actually, and like 380 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to say that this is 381 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: the general le attitude, but I've read that, you know, 382 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: people kind of actually perceived that Japanese filmmaking in the 383 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: eighties wasn't very good, like they weren't making good movies 384 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: generally in the eighties. 385 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: Interesting, And so I came into. 386 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: It going, Okay, so this is supposed to be like 387 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: an era of like bad Japanese filmmaking. Yet I walked 388 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: into this movie and was like completely charmed by it. 389 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: It was It's essentially a movie. I mean, this is 390 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: this movie is probably like as close to this film 391 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 2: podcast as we can get. It's essentially a woman who 392 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: is a cinophile. She's a single woman, a school teacher 393 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: living in Japan, and she's a cinopile. And she then 394 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: she gets on like a movie message board. And this 395 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: is ninety six, so this is early internet days. 396 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: This is just like, inject this into my veins. I know, 397 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: this sounds wonderful and I've never heard of this guy 398 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: or this movie. 399 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it basically it's like a lot of the 400 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: movie is there kind of like literally on screen, like 401 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: sending messages on the message board. It's like her and 402 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: this other person, and the other person at first is 403 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: you know, kind of presents as a woman, but then 404 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: it's actually a man, you know, because back in the day, 405 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: you can really fool people about being you know, like 406 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could still catfish people now. 407 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: Oh, catfishing is thriving right. 408 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, thriving. But back in like ninety six, man, 409 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: you could literally be anybody. And so they kind of 410 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: developed this, you know, I don't know, this online sort 411 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: of a pistolary relationship and they're kind of like he's 412 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: in a bad marriage or he's in a kind of 413 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: weird spot in his life, and they just kind of 414 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: bond together and it's this kind of like you got 415 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: mail in Japan in the nineties over the internet. 416 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so cute. That's in a file. 417 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, oh, it was lovely. 418 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: That's so interesting, you say, like not knowing Japanese movies 419 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: from the eighties or nineties, and I was just thinking, 420 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't really either, except for one 421 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: of my favorite movies of all time, Tom Popo by 422 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: Juzi Atami, which is also like the cutest movie in 423 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, and so like, it definitely feels like 424 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: it's an area that I want to explore and I 425 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: definitely want to check out. Is it Yoshi Mitsu Marita 426 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: his movies Maurita, Yeah, these look incredible. 427 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I actually watched another one because I 428 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 2: liked Taru so much. 429 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 430 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: So there's this movie that he made in nineteen eighty 431 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 2: four called Main Theme. And I got to tell you, 432 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't think it's online anywhere. I had to go through, 433 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: you know, the dark web, the. 434 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: Dark web nefarious and Millie she's in the dark web 435 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: all too often always. 436 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, actually I get I get my groceries 437 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: from the dark Web. You know, it's yes, you know, 438 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: I just use it for everything now why not? 439 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 440 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: But this movie Main Theme, Oh my god. That movie 441 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: was also incredible. It was also kind of a romance, 442 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: but it had this like super whimsical It was kind 443 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: of like an umbrellas of Schoreberg feel. 444 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 445 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was the colors. 446 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 2: Were amazing, saying, I don't know, just the setups, the 447 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: camera work, the colors, the costumes, everything. I was like, 448 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: who the hell is this director? And why have I 449 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: just figured him out? 450 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? So amazing, that's great. 451 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: So what about you now, you've gotta tell me? 452 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, so full disclosure here. I'm in 453 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: a bit of a horror movie zone right now, and 454 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: so all of these are horror or horror adjacent and 455 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: these ain't elevated. I'll tell you that much. I saw 456 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: this kibbit Qua film called Humanist Vampire seeking consenting suicidal person. 457 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: What very cute that's on twenty twenty three. Wow title, 458 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: it's very cute. It feels like what I'll leave you. 459 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: I'll read my letterbox review. It's Only Lovers Left Alive 460 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: meets Twilight because it's about kind of like a It's 461 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: very cute, see, but it's also very twee. I'm like 462 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: over the vampires who are like, I don't want to 463 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: kill people. That's like, I find that annoying now, and 464 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: I am sure vampires are you know? They they should 465 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: murder people. That's that's what I took away from that. 466 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 2: Are you with Twilight? 467 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Were you indoctrinated? I've never read any of these books, 468 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: but I was in college when all of those movies 469 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: came out. And all of my gal pals were obsessed 470 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: with it, and so unfortunately, I have seen every single 471 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: Twilight film at midnight on the day it came out. 472 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: So wow, I know a lot about it. I think 473 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: people like like them now in retrospect, those are bad movies. 474 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: You'll be surprised to know a little bit of a 475 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: Twilight apologist. I kind of I've watched all of them. Really, 476 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I was way too old should could 477 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: be into it? Like, I mean, I want did the 478 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: first one come out. 479 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: Like two thousand and eight nine? May? 480 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I was a grown ass woman in a 481 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: full time job when those movies came out. I have 482 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: no business. But you know, here's what I will say 483 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: about that. I actually kind of feel that I might 484 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: like them better now knowing who Robert Pattinson and Christian 485 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: Stewart became. 486 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: True, do you know what I mean? 487 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like I go backwards now and I'm like, oh, 488 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: these these are like two cool people making cool films, Like, yeah, 489 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: I don't know they made a bunchet teen shit, it's 490 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: kind of cool. 491 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't well, And I saw them at the height 492 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: of my like shithead stage because I was in film school. 493 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: I was like, this isn't you know, this isn't like 494 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: the Wurkmeister harmonies, like this sucks you know, or whatever 495 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: the name of that Bellatar film is. But I think 496 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: I do need to revisit them because I think they 497 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: would be fun to watch. Now, Yeah, I agree, Yeah, 498 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: Twilight worth a revisit. Then I watched Okay, I saw 499 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: this movie that I thought was incredible and I feel 500 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: like it should be more famous. It's called Black Rainbow. 501 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: It's directed by Mike Hodges. It's starring Rosanna Arquette and 502 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Jason Robard's have you seen this movie? It was just 503 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: re released by Aero Video on Blu Ray. Like Harvey 504 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: Weinstein and Mirrmax totally fucked up the release of this 505 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: movie so it went straight to cable, so like nobody 506 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: knows about it. But it's really good. It's about a 507 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: traveling psychic played by Roseenna Arcuat her father Jason Robards, 508 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: and they're kind of a you know, shysters. They like 509 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: are kind of scamming people. But then she starts getting 510 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: visions of people actually dying. That's really good. I thought 511 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: it was really interesting. 512 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: I will not confuse it with Black mouthed Super Rainbow, 513 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: which is a band from Pennsylvania. 514 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. And I believe there's a movie beyond 515 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: the Black Rainbow. Okay, that's a different movie. Okay, that's 516 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: by Ponos Cosmatos of Mandy Fame. Oh that's a different film. 517 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: Okay, get it right, get it right, pay the price. 518 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: Did you ever watch Salute Your Shorts on Nickelodeon? 519 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: What are you asking me right now? 520 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: What you've seen Salute your Shorts? 521 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: Are you fucking kidding me? Dude? Do you seem like every. 522 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: Epp Okay doesn't ugg say? Yeah, get it right? 523 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: Or pay the price? 524 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, says it? 525 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, butt Nick screwed it up. 526 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm just glad. I just wanted to make 527 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: sure we're on the same page when it comes to 528 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: Salute your Shorts, and now I know we are, and 529 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: so we can move forward with recording the podcast. And 530 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: then the last movie I watched last night, which I'd 531 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: never seen before, The Crow. 532 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: I loved it. 533 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: I thought it was great. 534 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: The O G. 535 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: Crow, not Bill sars Guard's The Crow, Brandon Lee's The Crow. 536 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: I have been told I look like Bill. Good movie 537 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: by two different people. 538 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: Wait, move your move your face away from micros. I 539 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: mean a little bit. 540 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm loath to say such a thing because he's like 541 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: one of the hottest men on the planet. Or I 542 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: think he's very hot me too, I will say two 543 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: people told me that, but still a thrill. 544 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: I would say, you were a little bit Casey Affleck 545 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: meets Bill Scar's guard. 546 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, have you been told about case I get 547 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: told Casey Affleck frequently, and my name is Casey. 548 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: And maybe it's because your name is Casey, right, except 549 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: I get Casey Affleck, Casey Affleck and who else? Oh, 550 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 2: Paul Rudd, Paul, Wow, you just happen to look like 551 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: all the hottest men in Hollywood right now, and I 552 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: do not. That's what I'm trying to underscore. 553 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: And that's my burden, you know. 554 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So that was our film diary. How'd you feel good? 555 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: First one? 556 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: I feel good. It felt like writing in a real diary. 557 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: I feel relieved of some emotional baggage. 558 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: It's good. Well, okay, now we're moving into our main discussion, 559 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 2: which is, again, like I said, twenty eighteen's a Star 560 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: is Born. We're gonna talk about drinking in movies. But first, Casey, 561 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: I have a question for you. Do you participate in 562 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: what they call dry January? 563 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Now, this is a great question I have, But here's 564 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: a I have a huge problem with dry January. My 565 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: birthday is in January, and that's gonna be wet. You know, 566 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna that I refuse to not drink on 567 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: my birthday because it's in dry January. And also, my 568 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: daughter's birthday is now in January. Now maybe I shouldn't 569 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: be drinking. You know, it shouldn't necessarily be a cause 570 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: for drinking, but there'll be a party, and I would 571 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: be sad if I couldn't have like a beer at 572 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: my daughter's birthday party, which my daughter's birthday is the 573 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: day before my birthday. Isn't that funny? 574 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: Oh? 575 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: But I do think it is nice sometimes to dry 576 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: out a little bit and just you know, reconfigure because 577 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: I am a drinker, but it's good to you know, 578 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of reconfigure your system. I feel like I kind 579 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: of participate, is my answer in dry January. 580 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: Sure, Okay, okay, that makes sense. I was thinking about 581 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: this obviously because it's such a huge topic right now. Yeah, 582 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: we're at the beginning of the New year, Happy twenty 583 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: twenty five, and a lot of my friends are doing 584 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: this dry January thing. Yes, white knuckling it. 585 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 586 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: It's so interesting because I'm kind of like, okay, a, 587 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: when did we start, Like, I don't remember dry January 588 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: when I was a kid, Like I don't remember people's parents. 589 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: No, I mean, it feels like it's like ten years old. 590 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then it's sort of that feeling too where 591 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, I get that it's in sort of a 592 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: mode of, you know, we're in a new Year's resolution 593 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: phase where we're trying to be better people for a 594 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: little while and then it all falls apart. But I'm 595 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: also like, I guess it's because I am not like 596 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: a huge drinker, so I don't need a dry January, 597 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. 598 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like people will go extra hard 599 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: leading up to dry January and then go real hard 600 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: after Judy January, and it's kind of like, well, why 601 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: this isn't good? You know, moderation is best. 602 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: Well, and so it got me thinking, you know, because 603 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, it's our first episode, it's the first of 604 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: the new year, and so I was like kind of 605 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: thinking let's maybe talk a little bit about you know, 606 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: classic movie drunks or like movies about drinking, and you know, 607 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: not all of it is fun all the time. Yeah, 608 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: like charismatic drunks, but mean drunks. Yeah, and you know 609 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: the whole gamut. 610 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting because there aren't that many movies 611 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: where it's like a celebration of drinking without it being 612 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: about alcoholism, yes, you know, or like the downside of imbibing. 613 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 614 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 615 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: Well, and like, so I started thinking about, like, what 616 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: was the last movie that I remember seeing that just 617 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: really was truly about alcoholism, the darkest alcoholic, like maybe 618 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: a movie you'd watch that would inspire you to adopt 619 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 2: a dry jannywhere sure it's something really hardcore. And I 620 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: was like, I think the last one I saw was 621 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: A Star's Board, the remake, the most recent remake of it, Yes, 622 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: which was such a juggernaut when it came out. Did 623 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: you not feel that? 624 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely? And it's one of those movies. When I 625 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: saw the trailer, I was like, Oh, this is gonna 626 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: be so bad. I just thought, I don't know, like 627 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, it's Bradley Cooper's first movie. 628 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: It's obviously like this Passion project. It just I feel 629 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: like it had things going against it. It had kind 630 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: of a goof goofy moment in the trailer that was 631 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: like memed and is still memed, you know the you know, 632 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: but I love this movie and I was really blown 633 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: away and it was a juggernaut and it's the first 634 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: movie in a while where it was like, oh, it's 635 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: a big hit movie with stars and there's a huge 636 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: song attached to it. Like that was fun. It kind 637 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: of was a throwback to old blockbusters in a way 638 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 1: where there's like a hit song kind of attached and 639 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: embedded in the movie itself, you know. 640 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Like so I decided that I was gonna 641 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: rewatch it actually during the Christmas break because I think 642 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: it was on like I don't know, Paramount, so you 643 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: know how it's just like movies. I was like, oh, cool, 644 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: a nice holiday movie where Bradley Cooper drinks himself to death. Amazing. 645 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 2: So I watched it at my parents' house and I 646 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: gotta say, it's still really enjoyable. Yeah, And here's the 647 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: thing that I thought was really interesting about this version 648 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: of it, because if you don't know, I don't know 649 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: how you how you wouldn't at this point a stars 650 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: Board is this like very storied franchise really at this point, Yeah, 651 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: it almost seems like it gets remade like every twenty 652 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: thirty years. You know. The original, the very first Stars 653 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: Born was made in nineteen thirty seven, and it was 654 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: a William Wellman movie. I'm a huge fan of William Wellman, 655 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,479 Speaker 2: the director, and that is my actual favorite version of 656 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: the story. Wow is thirty seven because first of all, 657 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: it's like, well, it's the it's the original meeting. The 658 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: story you know, sort of is contained in its own 659 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: like little universe, right, But also the lead actor of 660 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: that film, Frederick March, who is I don't know if 661 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: listeners really no Frederick March. I mean he's kind of 662 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: he's a he's a very famous actor of the thirties, 663 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: but you know, isn't like a Gary Cooper say. He 664 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: was very you know, like kind of under the radar. 665 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: I say, if you are a Frederick March fan, we 666 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: should be friends, because you're a real head, you know 667 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: what I mean. That's how cool Frederick March is. He's 668 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: like the big star of nineteen thirties comedic actors. 669 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: He's in a movie I like called I Married a Witch. 670 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: Of course, yes, with Ronica Lake. Yeah, Frederick March is 671 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: the most charming drunk in cinema history for my money, Like, 672 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: and this is what makes the Stars for the original 673 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 2: the best because obviously same premise. This guy, famous guy 674 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: you know, meets this kind of like you Hollywood upstart 675 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 2: on Jenue type. They form a relationship. Then she quickly realizes, oh, 676 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: he's like a fucking alcoholic who like can't handle a shit, 677 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: and what do I do? I'm ascending my stars on 678 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: the rise. This guy is falling on his ass and 679 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, peeing himself in front of the Oscars or 680 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: whatever it was. But it's like she loves him, she's 681 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: tied to him. That's the you know, the baseline of 682 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 2: of the franchise, right, But Frederick March is so charming 683 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: and funny and like sweet that I truly feel like 684 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: I do not want this guy to fail, Like I 685 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: want him to get a shit together and I want 686 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: him to like win, but as you know, spoiler alert, 687 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: he can't win. Yeah, there's got to be tragedy. There's 688 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: got to be tragedy. 689 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: So that's something I want to ask you about because 690 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: you have you seen all of the Stars Born? 691 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I would say the Stars Board is like my 692 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: star trek. 693 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: Sure. Sure many have said that. 694 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: Like I am very committed, Yes. 695 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: And so I have to I have a few questions 696 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: because I have only seen the Bradley Coop Lady Gaga won, 697 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: And honestly, I'm sorry, but spoiler alert to the heavens 698 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: on this, I'm not holding back on the ending of this. Sure, 699 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: does the male protagonist pee his pants in front of 700 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: people in all of them? Or was that just in 701 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: the Lady Gaga Bradley Cooper won? 702 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: So what happens in the thirties version is that he 703 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 2: accidentally hits her? Oh? I think so? Basically like she 704 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: goes to the awards, he does his Holy La, you know, 705 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: interrupts the speech, and then he throws his arm back 706 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: and hits her like on accident, and everyone's like, oh, okay, 707 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: that's what happens in thirty seven. Now, I haven't seen 708 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: the seventies one in a while. I actually don't think 709 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: it's in there at all. And then the James Mason version, No, 710 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: I don't think he pisses himself because they wouldn't have 711 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: allowed that in the fifties. 712 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't see James Mason pissing his pants on screen. 713 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that was something that Adley Coops. Yeah, 714 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 2: you know, he put his own stank on that moment. Yes. 715 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this because I have a 716 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: huge fascination with Bradley Cooper as a director. 717 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. 718 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: So this be his first movie that he's directed. He 719 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: went ham right, because he's in the movie, he's saying 720 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: some of the songs. He you know, adopted this like 721 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 2: almost kind of like this new persona, wouldn't you say? 722 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, It's like kind of like Austin hippie cowboy guy, 723 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: you know. 724 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's like maybe having a drink at Pappy 725 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: and Harriet's in Pioneertown or something. You know. 726 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: Can I interrupt you? I have something to say to 727 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: that matter. I have a personal connection to this film. 728 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: How I went to college with Lucas Nelson, Willie Nelson's son. Okay, 729 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: he co wrote all the music with Bradley Cooper for 730 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: this movie, and Bradley Cooper based his personality on Lucas Nelson. 731 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 2: Is that a known fact? 732 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: There are articles about this? 733 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 2: Okay? 734 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know Lucas that well. We hung out 735 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: a few times, and then he'd left college after his 736 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: freshman year to become a rock star and lead the 737 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: band Lucas Nelson in the Promise of the Reel My 738 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: Good Friend, though Logan Metz was in the band The 739 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: Promise of the Reel. Oh wow, and Lucas Nelson is 740 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: in A Star is Born. He's like the guitar player. 741 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 2: Oh I see, yeah. 742 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting. Bradley Cooper did have a new 743 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: persona and it's kind of based on Lucas Nelson. 744 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: Interesting. There's something fascinating to me about because this. Obviously 745 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: he made more movies after this one. This was the 746 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: one where he was like, I got a lot to prove. Yes, 747 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: I am taking this beloved, storied, historical IP and I'm 748 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 2: gonna do my own weird, you know Nashville guy thing 749 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: with it. Right. Yes, it was a juggernaut. People loved it, 750 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: like it was memified. I mean, people were, you know, 751 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 2: imitating his excit, you know, which was essentially Sam Elliott's accent, 752 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: and you know, I mean it left people shook. I remember, So, 753 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to say this about y'all, but 754 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 2: like so many straight guys that I'm friends with were 755 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 2: like shook by that movie. Yeah, they were like, man, 756 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: what a movie. Like they had never seen a movie 757 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 2: that affected their kind as much as this film. Right, 758 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 2: My people, my people like welcome to our world. What 759 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: the fuck? They're like, oh my god, this, like you know, 760 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 2: dramatic story is hitting me in the fucking fields. And 761 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's what we do here, by the way, 762 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 2: as you know, we cry about every movie we watch. 763 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: But then he went on to make Maestro, which did 764 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: you see you saw my show? Right? 765 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: I loved my Strow. It was like one of my 766 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: favorite movies of last year. Like, I feel like A 767 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: Star Is Born is such a big swing. It's such 768 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: a big risk because like it could have been such 769 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: a flop because it's like it's so sincere, it's so 770 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: emotional and it really goes for it. And Maestro is 771 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: much the same, but even more so, I feel like 772 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: he felt empowered by A Starsborn to make a nuttier movie. 773 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: Someone pointed out that like every movie he's been in 774 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: and has directed, he plays a genius essentially, and there's 775 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: like a Martyred genius and that's sort of funny. To 776 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: think about. I keep thinking back to this interview with 777 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: Leonard Bernstein's children that Bradley Cooper was in that interview. 778 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? Have you seen this? 779 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, And the interviewer asks the children, 780 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: what do you miss most about him? Of course, Leonard 781 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 1: Bernstein died in like nineteen ninety one. Bradley Cooper doesn't 782 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: know Leonard Evernstein. But Bradley Cooper answered the question and 783 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, I just I miss him 784 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: so much. I just and he like started crying, and 785 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 1: I was like, this is so delulu crazy like that 786 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: he felt comfortable answering that question that it made me like, 787 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: maestro more. I mean, it's just such a like a 788 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: vanity project, and it's just it's so outrageously theatrical and 789 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: they're doing so there's so much like accent and makeup 790 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: work going on. I mean, it is so crazy. Bradley 791 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: Cooper's movies are like invigorating and alive in a way 792 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: and like passionate, and it just sucks me in because 793 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: they aren't like other movies coming out now, where so 794 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: many movies that are like highbrow art house movies are 795 00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: so quiet and like muted, and the performances are very muted, Yes, 796 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: but Bradley Cooper's they are loud, taking big swings, and 797 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: so I just I just it, just I just drink 798 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: it all in. I just I'm a fan. 799 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I I'm glad you think this because 800 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: I want to say that I have this very nuanced 801 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 2: opinion of Bradley Cooper as a famous person, right, yes, 802 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 2: and that I think it is informed by my love, 803 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 2: my love and my passion and my writing about fucking 804 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 2: Colt movies. I mean, basically, I'm a Colt movie person 805 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, so here's this like megalomaniac director type. Yes, 806 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 2: Like he's basically like extremely well funded ed Wood meets 807 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 2: Tommy Wiseau, you know what I mean. Like that that's 808 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 2: not a disparaging comment, by the way, Like I fucking 809 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 2: love ed Wood, but it's like in that way that's 810 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 2: like making ridiculous, big swing artistic statements. I mean, maybe 811 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 2: not Edwood. Maybe we call him like Bob Foster. 812 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: Sure, Bob Foster is a good comp I think, Yes, Yes. 813 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate there being at least one or two people 814 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: at any given moment in Hollywood being that maniac Like 815 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate the mania, the like ridiculousness, the sort of 816 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: you know, over the top, like you know, putting himself 817 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 2: in his own movies, like giving himself the duty of 818 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 2: making old classic things relevant. You know. Yeah, maybe you 819 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 2: know have feeling like you the onus is on you 820 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 2: to like extend the story of a stars Bord or 821 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: whatever the fuck right and uh pulling in like all 822 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: of your bullshit in the world, you know, like all 823 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,919 Speaker 2: of your weird isms and costumes and noses and ship 824 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 2: you know who left snoopy in the vestibule? Why, Like, 825 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 2: damn it, I was. 826 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm mad that you said that, because I was I 827 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: was thinking about doing that for Halloween this year, holding 828 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: a snoopy doll snoopy in the vestibule. Oh my god. 829 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 2: Like that to me is like, hey, that is my 830 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 2: actual letterbox review for my stroke. By the way, is 831 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 2: left Snoopy the vestibule. That's all you need, isn't that 832 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: one fucking sentence. Also is the essence of why I 833 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: think he's so funny and I like him ultimately is 834 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 2: because he's just like that, like throwing that into his 835 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 2: fucking three hour movie. About you know, somebody that he 836 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 2: feels like he needs to like cry about in front 837 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: of his ChIL You know what I mean? 838 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, so I am a fan. Yes, 839 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 1: I look forward to whatever his next project is. I 840 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: hope Maestro didn't throw him off course at all. Do 841 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 1: you like the music in A Star is Born? 842 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: I don't like the bop that they told us was 843 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: the bop. The shallow is a shallow, shallow shallow. 844 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: You don't like shallow? Oh, Millie, don't really hit for me. 845 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that's man. I'm just I'm an easy mark. 846 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: I just I was like, I just thought I was 847 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: I thought that was a great song, and I when 848 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: she first sings it in the movie, I was like 849 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: I was taken away. I don't know it worked for me. 850 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 2: God, the whole thing is just such a bummer. 851 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is like the whole. 852 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: Movie is a real fucking bummer by design. It's been 853 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 2: that way for decades because the thirty seven version is 854 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 2: a fucking bummer as well. 855 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: To me. 856 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. When I rewatched it again, I was like, 857 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 2: whoever programmed this at Christmas is a g because this 858 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 2: is like a fucking, straight up bummer of the highest order. 859 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 2: I feel like, shit, thank you. And then yeah, it 860 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 2: just sort of made me like re like just have 861 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 2: to remember kind of this, you know, the reality that 862 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 2: we were living in when this movie came out, and 863 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 2: how like you know Riley Cooper's media lady Gaga had 864 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 2: had she acted before, like this was her big like god, 865 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 2: her big thing. 866 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 1: I mean I think she had like hosted snl oh. Yeah, 867 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: and like I think she was in the Ryan Murphy 868 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: universe doing god knows what goes on there. She is 869 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: so charming in this Yeah, there's a shot when he 870 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: when she's on the side of the stage and he's 871 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: like trying to pull her on to sing Shallow for 872 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: the first time, and she's like hi, and like she's 873 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: like acting like such a like kind of like weirdo, 874 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: Like she's like totally overwhelmed, but it's like it's so 875 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: disarming and charming, and I don't know, I really I 876 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: thought she was so good in this movie. 877 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was absolutely delighted that Andrew Dice Clay played 878 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 2: her dad. 879 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: Incredible, right, absolutely incredible. 880 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 2: He was great at it and considering like how obnoxious 881 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: he was, like it is heyday. The fact that he 882 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 2: just was like some like dad in a movie really 883 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 2: like made be kind of happy. Yeah, it's like always 884 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 2: like you know, I don't know, he's back and he's 885 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 2: like Lady Gaga's dad who like drives a limo or whatever. 886 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: I don't even know what he does. But yeah, she 887 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 2: was really great at it. And I you know again 888 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 2: like that. That's the thing about a Starsborn. It attempts 889 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 2: to take that kind of like famous diva of the era, 890 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: uh huh and put her in that role. Right, So 891 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, we got Judy Garland, We've got 892 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 2: Barber Streisan, I mean the first one. 893 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 3: You know. 894 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 2: I wasn't alive in the thirties, So I don't know 895 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 2: if Janet Gaynor was the Lady Gaga of the thirties 896 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't believe so, but that's the thing 897 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: is that like it kind of couldn't have been many 898 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,959 Speaker 2: other people but Lady Gaga to be this role. 899 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 1: Were you ever influenced to drink an alcoholic drink based 900 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: on seeing it in a movie? 901 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 2: Yes, I drank a white Russian after I saw Big Lebowski. 902 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: I did that too. 903 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 2: Thought it was kind of nasty, to be honest. 904 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: I like a white Russian, but they're an acquired taste. 905 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 1: I saw the movie north By Northwest with Carrie Grant 906 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: and he orders a Gibson, which is a Martini with 907 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: pearl onions instead of olives. Oh and that's my favorite drink. 908 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: Really Yeah? 909 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 2: Do you eat the pearl onion like Cass? 910 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't always because that is a potent punch, but 911 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: it is. I like the brine of the pickled onion 912 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: in my martini. 913 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 2: I love Martini olives. 914 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: They're great. 915 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm like, yo, put like twelve of them 916 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 2: shits on a stick, and I'm just. 917 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: Gonna dunk, dunk dunk. Yeah, okay, I'm. 918 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 2: Gonna dunk the olive in the Martini drink and just 919 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 2: eat them. They're so delicious. 920 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 1: So do you like a dirty Martini? A dirty Martini 921 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: is where they actually pour olive brine into the martini. 922 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: Should try it out sometime. 923 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 2: I like the eating component though, that's the one I 924 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 2: like about Martini's. 925 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: You know what's funny, Millie? This is so random. You 926 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: and I have only seen each other in person for once, 927 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: and it was like for thirty seconds. Isn't that interesting? 928 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: Was it? At the Egyptian Theater or down that way. 929 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 2: It was, since you have a terrible memory involving anything 930 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 2: on with me, it was at the Chinese Multiplex in Hollywood, okay, 931 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 2: and you were about to see Was that a movie 932 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 2: with Rod Steiger? 933 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: No, it was, uh, it was Paul Newman, The Hustler. 934 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: That's right. I got you and your wife Tricia into 935 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 2: the movie. Yes, and that was the first time I'd 936 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 2: ever met you, even though you had been recording the 937 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 2: podcast for a while before that, right. 938 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: No, I think it was pretty early on. I think 939 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: it was. Maybe I've been doing it for like two months. 940 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 2: Oh, I see. 941 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: We will be reunited at some point in person, hopefully 942 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: drinking martinezn't eating olives. 943 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely Alrighty. That was our discussion of a Star is 944 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 2: Born and getting hammered in film. So now it's time 945 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 2: for our guest segment, which we're calling my area of expertise. 946 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 2: So this is where we're gonna bring on a guest, 947 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 2: usually somebody funny and cool, I hope, always cool. 948 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: Funny I don't know necessarily, but very cool, always cool. 949 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, we're setting a high bar with the funny 950 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 2: because Sheila was an incredible comedian but you know, normally 951 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 2: what would happen is we're gonna bring on somebody. They're 952 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 2: gonna discuss this like hyper specific area that they are 953 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 2: expert in when it comes to movies. Right, And since 954 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 2: we spoke about, you know, the modern iteration of a 955 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 2: Star is Born, which is a movie about music, I'll 956 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 2: be we're gonna bring on a guest to talk about, 957 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 2: you know, this area of their expertise. That's also sort 958 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 2: of another example of like a modern cinematic fantasia, the 959 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 2: Magic my franchise. I think, you know, our first guest 960 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 2: is a wonderful human being, and I am not at 961 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 2: all lying about that in any way, shape or form. 962 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 2: I've known this woman for so so long. She originally 963 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 2: is an Atlantic comedian who has been in New York 964 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 2: for decades at this point, I would say, and very funny. 965 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 2: She does stand up all over the country, all over 966 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 2: the world, to be honest, and also has this incredible 967 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: podcast called The War Report that she does with a 968 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 2: fellow comic named Gastor Almonte. They're very funny together, and 969 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 2: she's just a wonderful human being and I want to 970 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 2: bring her on the pods. So ladies and gentlemen. Please 971 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 2: welcome shealeiwa sharp yay. 972 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: Hello, Hi everyone, welcome, welcome. Wait, how do you How 973 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: did you guys first meet? Oh? 974 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 3: The dirty, dirty streets of Atlanta, casey. 975 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 5: Oh my god, where there are just young people roaming 976 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 5: just looking for their next you know, brit Pop Fix 977 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 5: or just any dive bar that needed people in horde 978 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 5: rim glasses to hang out around the edges. 979 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 2: I will say this though, not to say that we 980 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 2: were not good friends before this, but I feel like 981 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 2: the event that really crystallized our friendship in a deep, 982 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 2: meaningful way is that Playboy article slash interview with John 983 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 2: Mayer that came out many years ago. 984 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Like I think. 985 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 2: The biggest topics in that moment were the fact that 986 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 2: Jessica Simpson had been called sexual napalm. Remember I know 987 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 2: we talked about that, and that he called his penis racist. 988 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is. 989 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 2: I think was the biggest. 990 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: That was, like, I issue number one. I remember this now, 991 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: I was. I didn't realize it was from that article, 992 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: but that's yeah. 993 00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 994 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 4: I mean when you say, like share, I'd love to 995 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 4: date women that aren't white, but my being this is racist. Yeah, 996 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 4: you're gonna have people who are not white sit down 997 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 4: and go what yeah? 998 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 3: And so that's that's what we had to do for hours. 999 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Millie, why don't we transition a little bit into 1000 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: why we wanted to bring Chileuah on the show today. 1001 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 2: We like to bring people on and talk about, you know, 1002 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 2: an area of their film expertise, right, Like, have you 1003 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 2: gone really hard on like a specific director or a 1004 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 2: specific genre. Are you like very well versed in you know, 1005 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 2: a certain type of film or like a franchise of 1006 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 2: some kind. And so when I asked you this question 1007 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 2: and you replied, yes, I do have an expertise, and 1008 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 2: then you told me what the expertise was, I was thrilled. 1009 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 2: Let's just say that. Oh yeah, And I think that 1010 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 2: because Casey and I both share this passion as well. 1011 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 2: Oh good, So I feel like we're gonna have an 1012 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 2: incredible debates, Slash. I think there's gonna be a debate 1013 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 2: because I feel like over the course, I mean, let's 1014 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 2: just say it, Chi, what is your area of expertise 1015 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 2: that you like to talk about today? 1016 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 3: My area of expertise I'd like to discuss today is 1017 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 3: the Magic Mike Universe, the trilogy, the trilogy. 1018 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I would like to first and foremost, I 1019 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 2: would like to establish a timeline, if you'll bear with me. Okay, 1020 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 2: let's establish a timeline of the moment you figured out 1021 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 2: who Channing Tatum was. Did it start with the Step 1022 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 2: Up films or did you know him prior to that? Like? 1023 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 2: How did how did you enter the universe via Channing Tatum? 1024 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 4: It was the Step Up movie, the first one. I 1025 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 4: didn't see it in the theater, and I did end 1026 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 4: up renting it and watching it, and I remember at 1027 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 4: some point standing up and yelling why didn't I see 1028 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 4: the in the theater because it's so amazing. But that 1029 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 4: definitely was my entry point into Channing Tatum, and I 1030 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,879 Speaker 4: viewed him in a particular way, which definitely evolved as 1031 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 4: I got. 1032 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 3: To know him more. 1033 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 4: Air quotes around No, but yes, he came in and 1034 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 4: he really stole my heart very quickly, because he is 1035 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 4: what I like to call one of our chin strap 1036 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 4: beard warriors, And that is what I call any young 1037 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 4: Caucasian man who has an affinity for Black music, for 1038 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,760 Speaker 4: R and B, especially for hip hopes, for all aspects 1039 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 4: of hip hop, the graffiti, all of the graffiti, the breakdancing. 1040 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 3: It's the break dancing is important. 1041 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 2: It is my kryptonite. I have gone on record. 1042 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 3: I truly am stone cold. 1043 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 4: I'm the deuce out here. But if you are a 1044 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 4: young white man with a respectable fade, or a shaved 1045 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 4: head and or a chin strap beard, I don't know, 1046 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,959 Speaker 4: there's gonna be problems. I'm a weekend. I'm a little weak. 1047 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 1: And what was it when you saw it? What was 1048 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: your reaction to it? Was it nervous and excitement or like, 1049 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: were you surprised by your reaction to it? Were you 1050 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: comforted by the dancing? 1051 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 3: I fully enjoyed it, Millie. We saw it together. 1052 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 2: Yes, we did. 1053 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 3: Full disclosure, full disclosure. 1054 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 2: It was there. 1055 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 3: We saw it together. 1056 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 4: We ran, we ran, But I enjoyed magic, Mike. But 1057 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 4: it also was a little dark. Yes, yes it was. 1058 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 4: And I remember walking out. I was like, I mean, yeah, 1059 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 4: they danced, but oh my god. 1060 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: What they could have danced more? 1061 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 2: Well. This is kind of the like trajectory that I 1062 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,240 Speaker 2: think is really interesting about this franchise because it's like, Okay, 1063 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,720 Speaker 2: the first movie was like kind of a dark drama 1064 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 2: ye in certain parts, and it was really mostly about 1065 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 2: the Alex Pettifer character who was kind of like like 1066 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 2: because Channing Tatum like magical Michael if you will, well, yes, 1067 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 2: he was already in the world. And then you as 1068 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 2: a viewer were with the Adam character, the Alex Peddifer character, 1069 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 2: who was like, I'm new to this. I need some 1070 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 2: extra cash. I guess I'm gonna like start, you know, 1071 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 2: down this road of exotic dancing and drugs and women 1072 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 2: and all this stuff. And that was kind of more 1073 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 2: about his descent into the world. And so there was 1074 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 2: a serious moment, you know, or two, but it was 1075 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 2: like it was really his story. And then when the 1076 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 2: second one came out right yes, they basically were like, well, 1077 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 2: the public has spoken, we have heard the request. Nothing 1078 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 2: no more serious. We don't care about this. Who the 1079 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 2: fuck cares about Adam. We might as well kill it. 1080 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 3: Off, right. 1081 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: We need to get rid of the darkness, we need 1082 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: to get rid of ploty, we need to get rid 1083 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: of you know, all the extra stuff, and really concentrate. 1084 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: It's a concentrated film into what is the essence? And 1085 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: I think Magic Mike XXL is the one that is 1086 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: now remembered mostly. 1087 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I think so. I think what they 1088 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,919 Speaker 4: did is. They took the montage in the first one 1089 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 4: of First they took out all the soderbergness for XXL. 1090 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 4: They took the montage of Matthew McConaughey teaching the new 1091 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 4: kid how to move like a rattlesnake in the marr 1092 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 4: and then you stick it. They took that and then 1093 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 4: they took it out of the Golden Hour lighting. 1094 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: Did some color. 1095 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 3: Brighten this up? Let's check the color of this bitch. 1096 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 4: And then they and then they're like, let's make a 1097 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 4: whole movie of that energy. 1098 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 2: Put them in an ice cream truck and let them 1099 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 2: travel around the South. 1100 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 3: America loves a road movie. 1101 00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: America loves it. 1102 00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1103 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,439 Speaker 1: They really. They remove all steaks too. I mean there's 1104 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: like no steaks in the second one. Really. I mean, 1105 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: in some ways, Magic Mike XXL feels more like kind 1106 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: of like an art house experimental film because you're like, where. 1107 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 3: Are you going? 1108 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: Where are they going? It's not a competition, They're not 1109 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: going it's like a showcase. They don't win anything, so 1110 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: there's no like prize money that they need to get something. 1111 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: They're just kind of like hanging out, going place to place, 1112 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, dropping in on all these people and thrusting 1113 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: on them, and it's just like it's more of an 1114 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: interesting kind of experiment in what a film can be 1115 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: than the first one, which is more of like a 1116 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: traditional like arc you know. 1117 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the second one is definitely it's a magic, magic, 1118 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 4: magic magic bike. 1119 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 2: It's a magic magic magic mic. 1120 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: Yes. 1121 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 5: Well. 1122 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 2: What I think is also really fascinating about the second one, too, 1123 00:59:54,360 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 2: is that they introduced this Jada Pinkett Smith speak on it, 1124 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 2: mansion of Exotic Dancing Men, like whatever this private club was, 1125 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 2: and that in and of itself has a lore that 1126 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 2: needs its own movie totally, Like that house needs to 1127 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 2: have its own franchise. 1128 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: It has has its own like Ballerina john Wick type 1129 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: movie exactly. 1130 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I may be getting ahead of us, but 1131 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 4: this is why I was so angry with the Last Dance. 1132 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 3: Yes, Magic Mike's Last Dance, the third one, we'll get there. 1133 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, But because of what they did in the second movie, Like, 1134 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 4: there are a couple of stories that definitely could have 1135 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,439 Speaker 4: been just like offshoots from this main thing that would 1136 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 4: have been fine, you know, maybe not theatrical release, I 1137 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 4: don't know, but you could have thrown that either on 1138 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 4: straight to DVD or a streamer, wherever it would have 1139 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 4: fallen in the timeline of. 1140 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 3: Excellent to be movie, an excellent TOOV movie. 1141 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 2: It'd be like an Amazon freew original, yes, free original 1142 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 2: of like what's his name, big big Dick, big Dick Rich. 1143 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 4: Like he finally finding his glass slipper and now moving 1144 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 4: in like probably taking up with that woman. 1145 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 3: What did that look like? 1146 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 4: Totally Also to find out the personalities of these dancers. 1147 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 2: They were like a boy band. It was like, yeah, 1148 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 2: boy band, Like it was like he had the bomber character, 1149 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 2: was kind of this like Ed Kowalchiky like kombucha Eastern 1150 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 2: religion guy. And you're like, why did that happen? And 1151 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 2: then you know you've got like the big Dick Richie story. 1152 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 2: I mean even like the fucking Kevin Nash had a 1153 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 2: moment's pantst right. 1154 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 4: And then it was a desert storm, like all kinds 1155 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 4: of all kinds of stuff. 1156 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 3: Then it's like what And it's not like I. 1157 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 4: Need you to give me a movie for each one 1158 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 4: of these guys, like a like a children's book. 1159 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 3: Or I don't need I don't need to know all. 1160 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 4: Of that, but there were a couple of things that 1161 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 4: happened to them that it's like, how did you end 1162 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 4: up here? 1163 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1164 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 3: You know, you definitely could be We could do a. 1165 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 2: Four rooms sure, yeah, different directors, just take you know 1166 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 2: what director for each one, like an anthology. 1167 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we could do that for them. 1168 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 2: At the very. 1169 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 3: Least, that would have been something, Yeah. 1170 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: Well bringing up the characters and like how you get 1171 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 1: to know them in the second one, which is like 1172 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 1: what makes that second one so great? Then they take 1173 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: that away immediately in the third one. My gosh, I 1174 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 1: think they're on a zoom call or something. 1175 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 2: You was so offended by that. 1176 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 1: I was. 1177 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 2: I was like, I am walking out of this theater. 1178 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 2: And I saw the third one in London. 1179 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 1180 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 2: I was actually in England the weekend that it came out, 1181 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 2: and I was like, I feel like I'm in the story, 1182 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 2: you know whatever? Why in London? Don't know why? And 1183 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 2: then when that happened, I was like, you're meeting to 1184 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 2: tell me that the boys the gang are gonna be 1185 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 2: relegated to a fucking zoom. That was like all stuttering 1186 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 2: and like you know, bad wi Fi. I was like, 1187 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 2: this is an insult, an insult to the second. 1188 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,959 Speaker 3: One, Yeah, I was so mad. 1189 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Well, I thought that they were like setting it up. 1190 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, don't worry, they're gonna have to fix 1191 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: some things with the show, and they're going to bring 1192 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the boys back to help fix the show. And that 1193 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 1: did not happen. 1194 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 3: No, we didn't even get a good like. 1195 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 4: Boys in that they found. That's really what got me. 1196 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, it really was bad. It was 1197 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 4: it was Godfather three, y'all. It was god The whole 1198 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 4: thing gave me my personally. I was like, oh, this 1199 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 4: is my personal Godfather. Because I love the first one. 1200 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 4: I really love the second one. The second one had 1201 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 4: two stories going on, really and then the third one 1202 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 4: is questionable at best, but I do not like it. 1203 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well the third one made me sad too, because 1204 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, in Magic Mike ex Excel, it seems like 1205 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 1: he's gotten the furniture business off the ground, he's making 1206 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: his own money, he's doing well. Yeah, the third one 1207 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: starts with him working some shitty catering job at Selma 1208 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Jayak's house. I'm like, what happened? 1209 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 2: What happens? 1210 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just sort of like starts as 1211 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 1: an off as a bummer. 1212 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 3: It does. It really does. 1213 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 4: And I mean after the first performance that he gives 1214 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 4: for he did a few things. I was just like, physically, 1215 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,959 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh wow, okay, you still got it, Mike. 1216 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 4: I don't like, you don't want to train like Magic 1217 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 4: Mike the next generation or like a like you know, 1218 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 4: which I think. 1219 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 3: Is already like a reality show or something. 1220 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,440 Speaker 4: But sure there was space for him to pass down 1221 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 4: his chin strap like learnings teachings to London where I'm sure. 1222 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure the chin strap dude situation there is fantastic. 1223 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 4: They concentrated on the wrong thing because they paid for 1224 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 4: Salmahayak to be there. That's why do you feel like 1225 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 4: this franchise could either be rebooted it's some future points 1226 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,919 Speaker 4: maybe even completely different people you know how they do now, 1227 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 4: or there will be like a fourth movie way into 1228 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 4: the future that could be done. 1229 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 2: Maybe it is like a Netflix thing or something like. 1230 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that's at all possible any future 1231 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 2: with this franchise at all? 1232 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 4: I don't think the reviews were great on three, and 1233 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 4: that may have stuck in Channing Katom's Krang maybe a 1234 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 4: little bit, because that is I feel like what it 1235 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 4: would take for a fourth one to be made. It's 1236 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 4: there's room you can you can save it if you 1237 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 4: have a movie with a little life in it. I honestly, 1238 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 4: I really love the idea of like doing the Jada story, 1239 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 4: but that might be too far gone now. Yeah, but 1240 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 4: I think that they could do some sort of a reboot, Like. 1241 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 2: What if they got like Nicholas Galazine to. 1242 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 4: Be Oh, Nicholas Gallatin, that's my new favorite guy. 1243 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 3: I love him so much. 1244 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 2: What if he was Magic Mike, the son Magic Mike. 1245 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 4: I called it the Son of Magic Mike. That would 1246 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 4: be enough. Son of Magic Mike is like so funny. Yeah, 1247 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 4: I think that's what they would have to do. They'd 1248 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 4: have to do it like they did the Step Up, 1249 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 4: like where Channing just comes through for one scene and 1250 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 4: he's literally glowing like I don't know. 1251 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 3: Obi wan kenobi or some shit. 1252 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 4: And he just kind of comes through and it's just 1253 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 4: like I give you the power or something something glittery throat, 1254 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 4: and now he's able to his son or his nephew 1255 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 4: or some whatever is now able to I think that's 1256 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 4: what it would take. 1257 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I have a pitch just based on everything 1258 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: you just said. Shlua, son of son of Magic Mike. Okay, 1259 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 1: Nicholas Gallop, why do you say Allen Allen's scene okay? 1260 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 1: And he has a bad relationship with his father, uh 1261 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: huh okay, And he goes up and do his attic 1262 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 1: and he finds all the old pictures and videos of 1263 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 1: his dad stripping, and then he starts stripping, and then 1264 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: Magic Mike is like, you don't want to go down 1265 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 1: that road, like it'll ruin, it'll. 1266 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 3: Kill you it, let's go, let's go. 1267 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: In the end the finale, Channing comes out to save 1268 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 1: his son somehow by stripping. 1269 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 3: I'm here, I'm kind of here for it. 1270 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 1: I think that would work. 1271 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 2: The other angels, the other Angels. 1272 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Like like the end of Star Wars, you see 1273 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: the ghosts of All We Want and Darthyding there see 1274 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Big Big and he's like translucent, you know, like smiling 1275 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 1: down yeah. 1276 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 2: Because they're dead. 1277 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 1278 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 4: I would love nothing more than to see Nicholas Gallatin 1279 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 4: in an attic lifting out of a dusty box a 1280 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 4: penis pump, Yes, just blowing the dust off a penis 1281 01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 4: pump and just like what is this and then like 1282 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 4: packing it all up, leaving the house you know, give 1283 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 4: us a little bit of love is a battlefield Pat 1284 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 4: Benatar video vibe. Like all of this a little bit 1285 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 4: of very eighties like us against the System vibe. Yes, 1286 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 4: anything that ends with somebody with their fist up at 1287 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 4: the end in a freeze frame, I think we got it. 1288 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think that's it. Yeah, I think that's it. 1289 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 4: Oh, it's a way in, it's away in, and it's 1290 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 4: so wild and then you just want to see what happens. 1291 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh man, lord. 1292 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 2: I'm gonna cash up my bir and fun. If you 1293 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 2: guys co write the screenplay, I will fund whatever. I 1294 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:40,719 Speaker 2: will fund the production. 1295 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,679 Speaker 3: That's great. Yeah, I'm here for it. I'm here for it. 1296 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 2: Well slei, well listen, we really really appreciate you coming 1297 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 2: on the pod to give your takes, uh, your expertise 1298 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 2: on the Magic Mic franchise. If people want to find 1299 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,599 Speaker 2: you online or do you have any show was coming up? 1300 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 2: What's all that info? 1301 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 4: Oh sure, I am tragically and chronically online at still 1302 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 4: in all of the things. My handle on all of 1303 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,799 Speaker 4: them is at silky jumbo all one word traditional spelling 1304 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 4: except for TikTok, where the O at the end is 1305 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,720 Speaker 4: a zero, but if you actually just put the O in, 1306 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 4: you'll find the other account that I forgot the password too. 1307 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 3: You'll find me. Look, I'm there, I'm there. 1308 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 4: I swear my website is Chilewassharp dot tumblr dot com 1309 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 4: because I don't know what I'm doing. 1310 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 3: Why would I leave Tumblr. 1311 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on Instagram a lot. I'm on Twitter, the 1312 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 4: only dead name I use. I'm on Twitter all the time. 1313 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 4: That's usually where you can find where I'm going to 1314 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 4: be if you are in the New York City area. 1315 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 4: UCB has a theater on East fourteenth Street, and on 1316 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 4: Monday nights, there's a free stand up comedy show called 1317 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:03,480 Speaker 4: Whiplash and I I am the host of that. That's 1318 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 4: a very storied stand up show that has is back 1319 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 4: from the risen from the Ashes along with UCB again 1320 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 4: and uh and so I'm hosting that, So you can 1321 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 4: find me there just stumbling through jokes and pointing at 1322 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 4: people in audiences and laughing at them and uh, yeah, 1323 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 4: that's about it. I teach at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective online. 1324 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 4: If you look up Brooklyncomedy dot com that's them. Yeah, 1325 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 4: And then otherwise I'm just kind of haunting the streets 1326 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 4: a lot I can't easily be found. 1327 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 2: Great yeah no. And then War Report, I gotta say, 1328 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 2: such a great podcast. You and Castro are absolutely hilarious. 1329 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 2: It's more like a courn Affairs like, you know, news 1330 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 2: of the day kind of podcast. It comes like on 1331 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,560 Speaker 2: what every week you guys do bonus. 1332 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 4: Every yeah, every Thursday for sure, and occasionally on Mondays. 1333 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 4: That's our bonus episode that we still seem to have done. 1334 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 3: Uh, and people expect and I'm like, I. 1335 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,680 Speaker 4: Don't know if we understand what bonus means all of us, 1336 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 4: but uh yeah, it's me and gast Romonte, who's a 1337 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 4: very funny comedian and he's a very Brooklyn, a Brooklyn 1338 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 4: boy and uh just very New York and I have 1339 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 4: to break him up. That break him up that because 1340 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 4: he's so Brooklyn and I just gotta it's enough, it's 1341 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 4: too much. 1342 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:23,839 Speaker 1: So that's that's. 1343 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,839 Speaker 3: What we're doing while talking about news stories. 1344 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 2: Well, thanks again, Shilewah, you're the best. We really appreciate it. 1345 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1346 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 3: This is great, my pleasure. Thanks for having me. 1347 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 4: I just would be sitting in my living room talking 1348 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 4: about these movies anyway. 1349 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 2: So. 1350 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:55,360 Speaker 1: There you go. Oh my goodness, love man. 1351 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 2: I've known her for so long. We have been bros 1352 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 2: for so long that it's kind of like, I don't know, 1353 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 2: it's effervescent. Yes, when I talked to her, and I'm 1354 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 2: just glad now you know each other. 1355 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 1: That was a hard conversation to even stop talking about 1356 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Magic Mike because I feel like it really there was 1357 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: so much more in the chamber there. We really, I 1358 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: mean we could have. Yeah, it was really hard to 1359 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: pull back on that. I mean, we might need to 1360 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 1: do follow up episodes, honestly, yo, Yo. 1361 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 2: It made me want to change the theme of the podcast. 1362 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 2: Just do we want about the Magic Mic franchise. 1363 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 1: So there you go. Frankly the format of the podcast 1364 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 1: to all of our episodes being about the Magic Mic 1365 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 1: extended universe. 1366 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 2: So that was great. 1367 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 1: Oh god, Okay, moving on, Let's get into our final 1368 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 1: segment of the show, Employee Picks. This is where we 1369 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,640 Speaker 1: do a film recommendation based on kind of what we 1370 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 1: talked about in this episode. Did I ever tell you 1371 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: about the chicks picks at Mister Movies at my Low 1372 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,240 Speaker 1: video store? No? 1373 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 2: I love Employee Picks, so tell me tell me about it. 1374 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 1: So there was like, you know, the staff picks at 1375 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 1: my local video store, Mister Movies in Minneapolis, and it 1376 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:15,719 Speaker 1: was all dudes who worked there, and they were nice men, 1377 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 1: but my mom was like bothered by this. My mother, 1378 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 1: and so she went in and she was like, you know, 1379 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 1: you don't have any women on the staff picks. It's 1380 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: like five guys recommending action movies. Love that, And the 1381 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,719 Speaker 1: manager was like, oh my gosh, you're right. To his credit, 1382 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,680 Speaker 1: he was like, oh my gosh, you're right. We need 1383 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,640 Speaker 1: to do something about this. And my mom goes, well, 1384 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,759 Speaker 1: I have an idea. How would we do a box 1385 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: and women can submit their picks to this box and 1386 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 1: you can have a chicks Picks row. 1387 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 1388 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 1: He's like, oh that's great. Yeah, maybe we'll get started 1389 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 1: on that. And then my mom is like, well, I 1390 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 1: already made a box for you. So here's your box 1391 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: and you can put it up on the counter. So 1392 01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 1: then like the next week, there was a little you know, 1393 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: on one of the shelves it said chicks Picks with 1394 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 1: movies recommended by women. 1395 01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,640 Speaker 2: First of all, you're fired. Your mom is hired to 1396 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 2: close this podcast me. 1397 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: My mom's a pioneer. 1398 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 2: I think it explains a lot about you to be honest, 1399 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,639 Speaker 2: that is wonderful. She's like a fucking to suffragette or something. 1400 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 2: I love it. 1401 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anyways, yeah, that's kind of my you know, 1402 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 1: part of my film history. You know, as a child. 1403 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 1: That was probably like twelve when my mom did that. 1404 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 2: Wow, that's like And honestly, were you ever able to 1405 01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 2: create an employee pick at all in any of your jobs? 1406 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Because I take that shit real seriously. 1407 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: No, I don't think. I don't think I've had an 1408 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:43,640 Speaker 1: opportunity to do something like that. 1409 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god. You should just get a job where 1410 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 2: you could do it. It is so fun. 1411 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 1: So quit this podcast and do something else and have 1412 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 1: my mom co hosts the podcast with you and said, okay, 1413 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: got it. 1414 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 2: Of course, allo Asten. I think we're ironing out the 1415 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 2: rest of your life here. Sure. But I you know, 1416 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,839 Speaker 2: I worked in many record stores. I worked at Tower Records. 1417 01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 2: That was like such a huge responsibility because that was 1418 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 2: in a very prominent location in the store. I mean 1419 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,679 Speaker 2: there's Tower Records, of course, And I was like, your mom, 1420 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 2: I was like, this is such a moment for me 1421 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 2: as one of the only women that work in a store, 1422 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 2: a music store. I was like, I'm doing research. I'm 1423 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,160 Speaker 2: gonna do things unexpected. I'm not doing it like the 1424 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 2: other guys do it. So, needless to say, this is 1425 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 2: the employee picks is such a part of video store culture, 1426 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 2: so we wanted to kind of replicate something like that 1427 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 2: because we just thought it would be really cool. 1428 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,839 Speaker 1: Totally. So imagine this on a shelf in a digital 1429 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 1: video store somewhere. Yeah, so, Milli, why did you give 1430 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,240 Speaker 1: your your pick first? 1431 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 2: So my employee pick for this week, because we are 1432 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,839 Speaker 2: talking about dry January and drinking and films, is actually 1433 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 2: about alcoholism. It's kind of a bummer, not gonna lie. 1434 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 2: But it's a film from nineteen fifty two and it's 1435 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 2: called come Back Little Sheba, directed by the great Daniel Mann. 1436 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 2: This is a movie that stars Burt Lancaster and Shirley Booth, 1437 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,640 Speaker 2: who is one of my favorite actresses in classic Hollywood. 1438 01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 2: If you like Shirley Booth, email us at Deer Movies 1439 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,599 Speaker 2: at exactly Rightmedia dot com. We are gonna be friends 1440 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,719 Speaker 2: if you like Shirley Booth. But it's a movie about 1441 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 2: this married couple. You know, obviously Burt Lancaster Shirley Booth 1442 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 2: married couple and Burt Lancaster is an alcoholic and he's 1443 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 2: in recovery, and it was one of the first or 1444 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 2: maybe the first time that alcoholics anonymous AA was ever 1445 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,280 Speaker 2: mentioned in a film, so it kind of has a 1446 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,559 Speaker 2: little bit of a little bit of historical relevance because 1447 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 2: of that. But it's a heartbreaker, man, and I love 1448 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,799 Speaker 2: a fucking fifties weepie. I love these types of films. 1449 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 2: There's no like Frederick marsh being a charming, joyous drunk. 1450 01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 2: This is straight up like, I hate my life because 1451 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,360 Speaker 2: I can't have a drink and I don't know if 1452 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 2: I want to be married anymore, and now I gotta 1453 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,600 Speaker 2: watch my husband feel this way. And it's just a 1454 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 2: it's a bummer of a film, but it is a 1455 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 2: great film, and I feel like it's not talked about enough. 1456 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 2: So there's that. That's my wreck. 1457 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 1: Fabulous, Yeah, fabulous. I haven't seen it. I got it. 1458 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: I must check it out. 1459 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 1460 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:25,639 Speaker 1: My recommendation since we're talking about drinking, is a movie 1461 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty. It's a Danish film, so you will 1462 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 1: be reading subtitles, y'all. It's called Another Round. It's by 1463 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 1: the filmmaker Thomas Vinterberg. It stars the very Hot Mad's Michelson, 1464 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 1: and it is about these four high school teachers who 1465 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 1: kind of all sort of have depressing lives. They're friends 1466 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,559 Speaker 1: and they read about this medical guy who says that 1467 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,639 Speaker 1: you actually operate better if you're a tiny bit drunk, 1468 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 1: Like your optimal pH kind of level is if you 1469 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 1: are a little bit drunk. So they decide to test 1470 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,599 Speaker 1: this out, and like are just kind of drunk all 1471 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 1: the time. And at first it's like fun, Yeah, they 1472 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 1: feel great all the time, and then it sort of 1473 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 1: devolves as some of these guys shouldn't be drinking all 1474 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,639 Speaker 1: the time. It's an interesting kind of exploration of alcohol 1475 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,080 Speaker 1: because I think it has a more complex conversation because 1476 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 1: it's not saying like drinking is bad. It's more like 1477 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 1: drinking can be bad. If your life is bad and 1478 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 1: you are drinking a lot, that is bad. But alcohol 1479 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 1: in it of itself isn't bad, but it can be. 1480 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,720 Speaker 1: And so I don't know, it's kind of an interesting 1481 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 1: thing because I just feel like sometimes movies exploration of 1482 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,120 Speaker 1: drinking is so cut and dry. If you see someone 1483 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,599 Speaker 1: drinking hard alcohol in a movie, you're like, oh ooh, 1484 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 1: something bad. Is gonna happen that guy's tortured, you know. 1485 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 1: So I think it's a really interesting movie by a 1486 01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:58,599 Speaker 1: really interesting filmmaker. It won Best International Film at the Oscars. 1487 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 1: Thomas Benderberg is a very interesting filmmaker. He comes from 1488 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 1: Denmark and he was a part of the Dogma ninety 1489 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,000 Speaker 1: five movement, which he started with another Danish filmmaker named 1490 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Lars von Trier. And that was like in the nineties, 1491 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 1: and they had all these rules for making films. It 1492 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 1: was like had to be shot on like a video 1493 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 1: camera with no tripod, no violence. They had all these rules. 1494 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 1: They were kind of like really art housey movies, and 1495 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,919 Speaker 1: there are some really good ones, like one of his films, 1496 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 1: The Celebration is really good even if it is shot 1497 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,679 Speaker 1: on a video camera. But he kind of was like, ah, 1498 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that anymore, and he stopped 1499 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 1: making moves. He stopped being like such a pretentious prick. 1500 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:45,120 Speaker 1: But Another Round is fabulous. Leonardo DiCaprio was supposed to 1501 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 1: remake it, but I don't know if that's still happening, 1502 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 1: but I'm checking it out. So anyways, Another Round. You 1503 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 1: can watch that on Prime. It's on if you're a 1504 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,640 Speaker 1: prime video. I think it's You can stream it on 1505 01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 1: there Peacock Canopy, which is a live app you can 1506 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,640 Speaker 1: watch movies for free on there, so it's in a 1507 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 1: lot of places, but check it out. It's a great movie. 1508 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 1: Another round from twenty twenty sounds great. 1509 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,599 Speaker 2: I love it, Millie. 1510 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 1: Oh my god. We recorded our entire first episode and 1511 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,680 Speaker 1: we didn't kill each other by the end of it. 1512 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 2: No, I just fired you and hired your mother. 1513 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was fired a few times replaced by my mom, 1514 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 1: which was humiliating, but we made it to the end. 1515 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,640 Speaker 2: We did, we did. I'm excited this is This is 1516 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 2: gonna be so fun. 1517 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 1: I know. 1518 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,040 Speaker 2: We hope you enjoyed it. 1519 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we have so many ideas about what 1520 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:36,600 Speaker 1: we want to do for this show. This is going 1521 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 1: to be changing all the time. You know, new segments 1522 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 1: are coming in. It's going to be a very vibrant show. 1523 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,720 Speaker 1: We're very excited about it. We have so many ideas 1524 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 1: for it. But one of the ideas I have in 1525 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: the future is we want to give out film advice 1526 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 1: at the end of our shows. So please right in 1527 01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 1: your questions for us. You know, if you're in need 1528 01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:01,240 Speaker 1: of specific movie recommendations for specific situations like you're on 1529 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 1: a date or something and you need a movie to watch, 1530 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,400 Speaker 1: or if you need help navigating a certain director's filmography, 1531 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,960 Speaker 1: we can help. Or if you need a film gripe resolved, 1532 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna have film gripes. That's gonna be a big 1533 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,719 Speaker 1: part of the show moving forward, huge part. Please write 1534 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,880 Speaker 1: in at Dear Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com. We want to, 1535 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, give out advice to the people. As movie experts. 1536 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 1: We want to help you. We want to help people. 1537 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 1: But you know, you can write in, or even better, 1538 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,640 Speaker 1: you can leave us a voicemail. You can record a 1539 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,599 Speaker 1: voicemail on your phone, keep it under sixty seconds. Please 1540 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 1: and email that voicemail to Dear Movies at exactlyrightmedia dot com. 1541 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 1: So we'd love to hear from you people. Please right in. 1542 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we love hearing your voices. Like, the accents are fantastic. 1543 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 2: That's like my favorite part. 1544 01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,879 Speaker 1: Well play it on the show. Yeah, love hearing these accents. 1545 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,759 Speaker 2: Also, we have social media. We are at Dear Movies. 1546 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 2: I love you on Instagram and Facebook. Just a little fyi, 1547 01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 2: Casey and I are going to be doing a couple 1548 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,759 Speaker 2: Instagram lives. Once in a while, we're gonna be posting 1549 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,519 Speaker 2: some video. So Instagram is gonna be hot people. 1550 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna have its own vibe to It's almost like 1551 01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 1: a second show's going on. 1552 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 2: That's right on Instagram, that's right. And because Casey's a filmmaker, 1553 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 2: it's gonna be in four K digital restorations. 1554 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of tricky camera moves, dolly shots, Dutch angles, 1555 01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:31,200 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff. 1556 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,439 Speaker 2: We built the rig from the first Evil Dead movie. 1557 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna be through the woods with it, so it's 1558 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,280 Speaker 2: gonna be exciting. But just wanted us to shout that 1559 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,760 Speaker 2: out as a way to like, you know, engage with 1560 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 2: the pod a little bit more. And also, if you 1561 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 2: are on letterbox, if you are a letterbox user and 1562 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,840 Speaker 2: you haven't followed us already, our letterbox handles are at 1563 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:58,680 Speaker 2: Casey Lee O'Brien and at m DE Jericho, and that's 1564 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 2: where we are. That's where we're hanging out putting down movies. 1565 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:06,440 Speaker 1: That's right. Well, Millie, thank you for a wonderful first episode. 1566 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully many more to come after this. 1567 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,479 Speaker 2: Oh I agree. I had such a blast. 1568 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:15,800 Speaker 1: So much fun, so much fun. All right, Well bye everybody. 1569 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:21,040 Speaker 2: See you next time. This has been an exactly right production, 1570 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,760 Speaker 2: hosted by me Milli to Cherico and produced by my 1571 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,320 Speaker 2: co host Casey O'Brien. 1572 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 1: This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfocal. Our associate producer 1573 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,680 Speaker 1: is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and 1574 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,639 Speaker 1: our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac. 1575 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,680 Speaker 2: Our incredible theme music is by the best band in 1576 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 2: the entire world, The Softies. 1577 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 1: Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia Hartstark, 1578 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 1: Daniel Kramer and Milli to Jericho, we love you. 1579 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 2: Goodbye, bec