1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Advice. Welcome to the Naughty but Night Show. I'm your host, 2 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Rob Shooter. Hey, it's Thursday, which means our dear Fred 3 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: Mark Lupo is joining us. LUPI are you there on 4 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: my favorite day of the week. I'm here rab Hello. 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Is it your favorite day of the week, mom, because 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: we get to hear your voice, you get to talk 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: talk talk talk talk. Or is it your favorite day 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: of the week because you get to see all the 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: naughties and my good soul. I would say it's a 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: mix of both. But I love I love when you 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: talk talk talk right to me directly. This is really 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: what we do. I think the success of this show 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: is we forget that anybody else is really listening, is 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: joining us. This is what we do when we can 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: drink it. We pull up a chair, we sit down, 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: we say what is it? Screen tea time, and then 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: we begin. So let's start it up officially here on 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: the show. What time is it? My friends? It is? 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. So Megan Marco could be deposed 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: in Prince Andrew's sex abuse case. This so Attorn is 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: the represent Miss Duffrey, who is accusing Prince Andrew of 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: sexual abuse in a civil case are saying they potentially 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: could call Megan Marco as a witness and deposed. Wild 24 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: let me tell you what they are saying. Quote, she 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: is one of a number of people who we are 26 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: considering deposing. We only have between ten and twelve depositions, 27 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: so we're going to take it very carefully, obviously, but 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: she is somebody that could be a witness. They said 29 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: that at least a couple of depositions will be people 30 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: that know Andrew personally. So I don't think they're saying 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: Megan knows anything about the case. She clearly wasn't there, 32 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: she wasn't around, But she does know Andrew remember to 33 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: her favorite royals. In fact, the only one she's still 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: close with are Andrew's children. And she told us all 35 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: this in the Oprah interview. Wouldn't it be wild if 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: that Oprah interview comes back and bites them? And so 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: she did tell us that she's actually quite close to 38 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: Andrew and Fergie and their kids. And when she first 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: met the Queen, she was with Andrew and Fergie. So 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: Megan marcol apparently is in a position in the family 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: to know about Andrew. And get this the reason they 42 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: are going to depose her is She's in the United States, 43 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: so it's going to be easier to depose her than 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: someone that's in the United Kingdom. So basically, Andrew's hiding 45 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: in his mommy's castle. He's never going to leave England. 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: You're never ever going to see Prince Andrew ever. Again, 47 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: they can't get to him. He's locked in a castle. 48 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: It's going to be very very hard to get him 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: ever to sit down for a deposition. Megan is in California, 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: she's here in America. Plus, they're saying Megan has made 51 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: it her life's work to defend vulnerable women. This puts 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: her into such awkward, horrible position because she defends women. 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: She's very much part of the Me too movement. This 54 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: is who she is. But yet it's her husband's uncle 55 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. Oh yes, you think. Well, this 56 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: puts Megan in a very very trickiest positions because this 57 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: is not like going on OPRAH, where there's guardrails you 58 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: can kind of control the narrative. This is something that 59 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: you have to be honest, you have to tell the 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: truth under oath. So she she can't just hide things. 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: I think Megan knows where all the bodies are buried 62 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: in the royal family. She knows all the secrets because listen, 63 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: just like us, they gossip about each other, you know. 64 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: She I'm sure she's hurt all the rumors. I'm sure 65 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: her and Harry have talked about it. But I do 66 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: think it's a very awkward thing, like you're saying, and um, 67 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: But but to your point, I think Megan is a 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: talker and she probably would say more than Harry or 69 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: anyone else in the family. Yes, they're also talking about 70 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: deposing Andrew's ex wife, Sarah Ferguson Fergie, who he still 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: lives with. They have a very unusual relationship, but they 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: said it actually could be quite difficult to get to 73 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: her and she's probably not going to be as forthcoming 74 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: as Megan is. They also went on to say that 75 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: they're not going to drag in the queen. They're not 76 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: going to depose the queen. They said, given the queen's 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: age and position, we are inclined to respect her rights 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: to not have to have her talk about her son. 79 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: So I sort of respect that. But Megan's a really 80 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: complicated one here. Think about your own family, you know, 81 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: the truth might not want to a minute but you 82 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: know about that crazy uncle that wacky aren't no? And 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: this this is serious because this isn't just about having 84 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: a silly uncle. This is a really, really serious accusation. 85 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Megan could be deposed, which brings us to our whole 86 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: question of the day, Megan Marco could be deposed in 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew's sex abused drama. Should Megan answer questions about 88 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: her uncle? Should you yes or no? Go votes on 89 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: our Twitter page at Naughty Noice, roll about Facebook pages 90 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Norty Gossip. Be sure to check back tomorrow to hear 91 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: your results. Mark Love, what are you working on? Things 92 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: are not looking good for Chris No Throb. His marriage 93 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: is allegedly hanging by a thread amid multiple sexual allegation claims. Okay, 94 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: so let me explain what's going on here. So, in 95 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: photos obtained by The Daily Mail, Nose wife Tara Wilson 96 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: was spotted out without her wedding band and diamond engagement ring. 97 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: That's never a good side. So just two weeks prior, 98 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: Wilson would seem proudly wearing the rings while attending the 99 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: premiere of HBO's Sex in the City revival alongside her husband, 100 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: which I know Rob, you were also in attendance, but 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: now sources tell page six the pair's marriage is hanging 102 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: by a thread. What do you think, Rob, Oh, yeah, 103 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: they were really lovely Dorvy at the Sex in the 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: City premiere. You know, when things are going good, when 105 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: things are fabulous, when when spotlights on you and everybody's 106 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: praising you, it's quite easy to be that in love. 107 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: It's during these times that things get really, really, really 108 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: really tricky. Now he's been spotted out. He's in Massachusetts, 109 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: she's in l a. So it doesn't look like they're 110 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: going to spend Christmas together. But he was out and 111 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: about walking. He was smiling, he gave a peace sign 112 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: to the cameras. And I supose to some sources late 113 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: last night about this, and I was like, what is 114 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: he doing? And they said, he's in a no win situation. 115 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: If he hides, he looks guilty. If he goes out 116 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: and smiles, he looks flippant, like he doesn't care. What 117 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: does he do here. He's still claiming that he is innocent. Ultimately, 118 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: this is going to be he said. She said, although 119 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: there's more than one, let's let's be clear about that. 120 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: But there's not going to be a trial here. There's 121 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: never been a police report. I'm not defending him here. 122 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: I believe the women, But I'm just saying, from his 123 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: point of view, what should he do now the rest 124 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: of his life? Should he hide away? What happens to him? 125 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: It's it's a really complicated, complicated conversation. I think it's 126 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: a little bit too soon in my advice to him. 127 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: If I was representing him and I believed he was innocent, 128 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be representing him if I thought he was guilty. 129 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: But if I believe he was innocent, I'd say, laylow. 130 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: You've got a laylow for a while. Disappear, you know what, 131 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: four or five days after the accusations, walking around smiling 132 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: making peace signs. Not a smart thing to do. Not 133 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: a good luck Now, look like you really take this seriously. 134 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: But I do understand. You can't hide away for the 135 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: rest of your life. What do you think? You know? 136 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: This reminds me of like a Matt Lour situation. It's like, 137 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: what do you do? What a society do with people 138 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: who are in these situations have been canceled, They've been 139 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: accused of disgusting things, but they deny it and so 140 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: I think Rob, You're right, he should lie low. What's 141 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: complicated is that he has he has two young kids. 142 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: He's an eight year old, he's an eighteen year old. 143 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: You know, I think those are outside of the victims 144 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: who are alleging these things. I think they are the 145 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: victims too. You know, it's it's it's gonna cause a 146 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: lot of complications for his family. Um, but I do 147 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: think he needs to take a take a step back, 148 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: and then we'll see. He's even center up to the photographers. 149 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: He said, I'll let the chips for where they may. 150 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: So I think he's understanding that he might not work again, 151 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: but you know he has to continue on living. Yeah, yeah, 152 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: this this is at first it's so easy, isn't it 153 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: just to to say, oh, those people have done I 154 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: never want to speak to them ever. Again, what does 155 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: the wife do? Like can be married to someone you 156 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: have children with them? Like, it's really complicated. I was 157 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: putting myself in in his shoes or in his wife's shoes, 158 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: And if Bruce was accused of something like this, what 159 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: would I do? I wouldn't believe it was true. But 160 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: then with all the evidence, it's certainly you have to 161 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: question it and then do you forgive. I mean, it's 162 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: a very very complicated thing, but we'll certainly keep you 163 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: in the loop of what is going on. Hey, moving along, 164 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Hilaria Baldwin is now Hilaria is now slamming reports that 165 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: her and her husband Alec were pulled over by the police. 166 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: So we talked about it on the show. There were 167 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: photographs of them in the Hampton's and they definitely were 168 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: talking to a police person. It looked like they were 169 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: pulled over. She's insisting that that did not happen, but 170 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: they were being chased by photographers, chased by photographers and 171 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: that's when they spotted the police and called the police. 172 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: So they stopped the police rather than the other way around. 173 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: They said that they needed some help. And so that's 174 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: what she's talking about here. Does this matter? Should she 175 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: just let this go work? You know, it's incredible to 176 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: me for someone who's in possible serious legal trouble, we 177 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: cannot hear enough from them. They just continue to talk 178 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: to us via Instagram, via interviews on the street. Well, 179 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: I did find what was funny was hilarious. Accent came 180 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: back in the video. If you watched the Instagram it 181 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: was quite long, and she was she when she gets 182 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: upset at that accent comes back in full forests. That's hilarious, 183 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: Hundre said, moving a long. So, oh my goodness, it's 184 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: all doom and gloom today on the show, isn't it? So? Now? 185 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: James Franco is finally breaking his silence about his sexual 186 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: misconduct allegation. He sat down with Jess Cagle on Serious 187 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: XM and he talked about the accusations and also talked 188 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: about his friendship that ended with Seth Rogan. He said 189 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: the following. Over the course of my teaching, I did 190 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: sleep with students and that was wrong, but that's not 191 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: why I started the school. I wasn't the person who 192 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: selected the people to be in the classes, so there 193 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: was no big master plan. He's been alleged of coming 194 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: up with a big master plan to really abuse these students. 195 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: He's saying that he's not the case, but he did 196 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: say he slept with him. Once again, he's somebody else 197 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: who's pointing out that he thought it was consensual. He 198 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: was asked about his friendship, his friendship with Seth Rogan, 199 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: and he said that he sort of understands that. He 200 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: said quote, I absolutely love set for Ogan. I love 201 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: Seth Rogan. I worked with him for twenty years and 202 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: we didn't have one fight. He was my absolute closest 203 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: friend and collaborator. Of course, it was hurtful in the context, 204 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: but I get it. And he went on to say 205 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: that he had to answer for his silence and he 206 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: doesn't want Seth or his brother to have to do 207 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: that anymore. A big interview, Mark, did you listen? What 208 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: do you think? You know? It is a big interview 209 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: and it took four years. Um, you know, listen. He 210 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: is acknowledging some of his his wrongdoings, but I don't 211 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 1: know that he fully accepts responsibility for his actions. I 212 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: think he kind of skates over it and kind of 213 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: says that it was consensual and blah blah blah. I 214 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: don't know. It's the same thing. What do we do 215 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: with him? What do we do? We invite him back 216 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: to Hollywood? Do we just let him live his life? 217 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's complicated, isn't it. Honestly, I didn't 218 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: want to go down this road just before Christmas. But 219 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the story is to table all all like this, Mark, 220 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: And it's so difficult because people mess up. But there's 221 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: certain things that when you mess up, you have to 222 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: have consequences for it. You can't just walk away as 223 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: if nothing happened. So it's really something I think we're 224 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: all graspling with. And now what happens when we watch 225 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: Sex in the City. Can we enjoy it anymore? Or 226 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: now are we not meant to watch it? I felt 227 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: like this too with Michael Jackson. I loved Michael Jackson, 228 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: I really did. He was the first like sort of 229 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: mega star I ever went to see in concert. I say, 230 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: at Wembley sixty people Mark I was one of the 231 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: sixty bands, and I still remember that failing of screaming. 232 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: My friend Nadia thought she fainted, she didn't draw. But nevertheless, 233 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: it was just such a fabulous day of my childhood. 234 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: And now when you're out and Michael Jackson's song comes, 235 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I think to the I think, 236 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: just because it makes us uncomfortable, we can't avoid this. 237 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of my life avoiding stuff that 238 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: makes me uncomfortable, just pretending it didn't happen, and I 239 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: don't think that's an option anymore. What do you think? Yeah, 240 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: it's funny that you say Michael Jackson. When my brother 241 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: was getting married into thousand nineteen, the DJ told my 242 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: parents do not play any Michael Jackson songs at this wedding. 243 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: He is canceled. Um. I don't know that people feel 244 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: the same years later. I think that now, you know, 245 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: as more time passes, people kind of shy away from it. 246 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: So I think this is still like an involving conversation. 247 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: And I don't know that we have an answer yet 248 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: how to deal with this, because this is the me 249 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: too movement is not very old, right, It's not very old. 250 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: It's not very old, and people have done some awful 251 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: things they have and it was part of the culture. Unfortunately, 252 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: the reason they got away with them is that it 253 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: wasn't such an exceptional thing. Being really really bad was 254 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: actually more common than we want to admit. And I 255 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: think in my early days when I was working in 256 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: a PR office and you could scream at people, and 257 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: you could slam doors and even throw chairs and and 258 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: just be really really aggressive. You've been in the TV 259 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: business a long time, Mark, and in the early days 260 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: in that business it was very different than it is now. 261 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: I mean, the way that you communicate. I feel The 262 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: way I communicate now in the office is very corporate. 263 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: It's very everything is buttoned up. But maybe ten fifteen 264 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: years ago, it was very different. It was it was 265 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: very loose, and you can say what you wanted to say. 266 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: You can acted however you wanted to act, and that 267 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: would not You would be out of a job immediately 268 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: if you if you did those things now. Yeah, yeah, 269 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: and rightly. So let's let's make that clear here. We're 270 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: not we're not trying to go back to the good 271 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: old days. Now, lives have really really changed. Hey, quickly 272 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: before we get a break. This Bachelorette story made me scream, Mark, 273 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: So they did the bachelotte a three hour I mean 274 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: that's a little much. Bachelor Abi three hours, three hour 275 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: season finale and it's starlet with nobody in the audience 276 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: wearing masks. People got really angry about this, and because 277 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: it was live, they got that reaction immediately. They came 278 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: back from break and suddenly everybody had a mask on. Mark. 279 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: I love that you can be this quick to respond. 280 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: So ABC saw the response literally in live time. They 281 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: saw it happening right now, and they changed it and 282 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: put everybody in a mask. I like it. What do 283 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: you think you would think they would be wearing masks 284 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: from the from the start. I mean, we're in another 285 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: wave of this pandemic. I mean, what's going on in 286 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: the country, right right, right right. That's an interesting one case. 287 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: I think when people watch TV, producers are like, oh, 288 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: they want to escape. They don't want to talk about it. 289 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: They don't want to they don't want to be reminded 290 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: of it. Oh, I don't If it was a tap show, 291 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: yes I get it, like I don't want to see 292 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: masks on sex in the city, but a live show, 293 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: and I think they probably did the right thing. Hey, 294 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break here and we're gonna 295 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: be here right back. Welcome back to the I'm Rob 296 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: Shooter with that dear friend, Mark Lupo, Hey, LUPI, let's 297 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: get to the polls that pretty much everybody very nice. 298 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: So Kelly Clarkson's ex will not be evicted from her 299 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: Montana ranch. Mark ordered, that's her ranch. It's ten million dollars, 300 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: it's hers. They thought over who was keeping the ranch 301 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: in the divorce. She wouldn't. It's her ranch. So now 302 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: she's like, it's my ranch, please leave, and he said no, 303 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: and then she went to court to get him evicted 304 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: basically had he won the victim. It's so strange. I 305 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: don't know why he's not getting kicked out. So our 306 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: question where should he get kicked out? Percent said yes, 307 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm with the majority. It's how is it's her ranch, 308 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: it's her house, and rob do you know she pays 309 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: him close to two hundred fifty thousand dollars a month 310 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: for alimony and child support. It's like, dude, get your 311 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: own house. You could get like an amazing place for 312 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: that Rentma what you could rent for two hundred dollars 313 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: a month. I hope Kelly's charging him rent. I hope 314 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: she is a charging two hundred and one tho dollars 315 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: a month. It's so embarrassing, like get do get out, 316 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: get out now. It's embarrassing, isn't it. We're with the 317 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: majority normally we are, but particularly today, he don't get 318 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: to those on today's pole, Twitter paget row but on 319 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: Facebook pages. I'll be sure to check back tomorrow to 320 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: hear your results. And now I'm marks got noisies. Oh 321 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: our nicest of the day. It's Kim Kardeshian and Pete Davidson. 322 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: They're making an effort rob he gets to know each other. 323 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: So for the first time in nine years, Kim has 324 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: a new man by her side for the holiday season. 325 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: Kim and Pete were spotted returning to Los Angeles together 326 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: after a really cozy weekend in New York, and all 327 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: signs or seemed to indicate the new couple Well. Ten 328 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Chris Jenner's annual Christmas Eve bash, and it's gonna be 329 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: a party, and Kanye West might even be there. So 330 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: that's terrible, Like can you imagine. Yeah, it's gonna be 331 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: really good. But the source says Kim is really happy 332 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: and they're both putting in a solid effort to get 333 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: to know each other. Oh see, I think that's really lovely. 334 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: You have to put in the effort, whether it's with 335 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: love in a romantic sense or love in a friendship way, 336 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: you have to put in the effort. We meet people 337 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: that become our best friends too quickly, like we do 338 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: because of what we do for a living. Everybody in 339 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: show business, I love you, I love you, You're my 340 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: best friend. I'm like, no, you don't love me. You 341 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: just like the fact I've helped you, I got you 342 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: on TV I wrote about you and so I'm amazing. 343 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: But then the minute I don't do that, you won't 344 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: love me anymore. I do like this about making an effort. 345 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: You have to make an effort. I make an effort 346 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: with my friends too. Obviously I make an effort with Bruce, 347 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: but with my friends, I really try to reach out 348 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: to them. Like some friends that I haven't spoken to 349 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: in months, I say in a little text like, oh, 350 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: how are you all? Just thinking about you? And it 351 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: only takes thirty seconds. And I think that's the reason 352 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: I have friends, so many friends for such a long 353 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: period of time is that I do. I do make 354 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: an effort, and I've got to be honest. Sometimes it's 355 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: an effort, like sometimes I really want to do it, 356 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: but I do make an effort. What about you, Mark? Yeah, 357 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: relationships take work. You can't take them for granted. You 358 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: have to put the time in the affortian or else 359 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: they will fall apart. Right, And the ones that ultimately 360 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: are too much of an effort I drift away from, Like, 361 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: you can't be all effort. There's got to be some 362 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: joy too. So I really like that Kim and Peter 363 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: not just jumping into this in a sexual way. Obviously 364 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: they're attracted to each other. But now that they've done 365 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: the deed has and we're leaving her apartment. Now they've 366 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: done the deed. Now they're really getting to know each other. 367 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: And the only way you can do that is by 368 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: spending time with each other. He's in l A right now. 369 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: A source of mind spotted them having breakfast yesterday, so 370 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: they left a New York and now in l A. 371 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: I like this one and nicest of the day, and 372 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: now I'm no yest the day. Britney Spiers. His daddy Jamie, 373 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: is now saying that he wanted to end the conservatorship. 374 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Mark Wow. People that is it called revise history, saying 375 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: it's just not the truth. So his lawyers are now 376 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: have a very different take on this, and they said 377 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: he actually wanted to end the conservatorship and the reason 378 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: he wanted to end it is because he was worried 379 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: that people were depleting. Brittney is a stature of money, 380 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: you were, Jamie, and so he said that basically this 381 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: was his idea. Britney's lawyer is fighting back saying, oh no, no, no, 382 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: Britney spears his dad reaped millions of dollars from his daughter, 383 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: and he said, this is not what a father who 384 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: loves his daughter does. Not good. Do you have friends 385 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: that you know, people that remember things in a very 386 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: different way that the reality. I mean, what's funny about 387 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: this rather is that he might want to revise reality. 388 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: But we've been watching this play out for years, so 389 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: there's no revising my mind about this. Yes, Like, if 390 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: you have a disagreement at body you knows, there's probably 391 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: only maybe there's probably more there because we go as 392 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: a group, but there's very few people there that could 393 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: actually say, well, that happened or that didn't happen. The 394 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: whole world watch this job, we know what you did 395 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: and naughtiest of the day. Okay, let's end with a 396 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: moment of rob. You're gonna na you get a rob. 397 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: You've been beating yourself up for far too long, hoping 398 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: to hurt others. Admit it, you have, but in reality, 399 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: you've only been hurting yourself. It's time to forgive and 400 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: even being grateful of everything that has happened to you. 401 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: So if you have revenge in your heart, if you 402 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: hold a gridge, if you think nasty thoughts about somebody. 403 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Next time I see them, I'm gonna say this. Next 404 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: time I bump into them, I know I'm going to 405 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: have this zinger. No, let it go. It's like drinking 406 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: poison and hoping the other person dies. You're drinking the poison, 407 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: not them. They're not thinking about you. Stop thinking about 408 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: them and get this. This is bold, but I'm gonna 409 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: say it. Forgive them. Forgiveness is not about the other person, 410 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: It's about you. So them, Oh, Mark, you can hold 411 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: a grudge. I mean, I feel like I'm I'm Opera 412 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: is talking to me. I feel so inspired. No, but 413 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: it's true, like forgive them. It's the holiday season. Let's 414 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: let's I'll be merry and break yes. And you know what, 415 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: You're not really forgiving them, You're forgiving you really hard. 416 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: You free yourself. I used to hold a grudge and 417 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: I used to have really mean thoughts. Wait till I 418 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: bump into him, I'm gonna say this zinger. Thinking of 419 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: things that in your mind, going over all the mean 420 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: things you can say, or if somebody comes at you 421 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: on Instagram or social media, like oh, I'm gonna fire 422 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: this back and show them. No, you're spending a too 423 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: much time thinking about them. They are not thinking about you. 424 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: It's time to forgive. Hey, that's it for today. Listen. 425 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: While we were taping today's show, we had a few 426 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: technical issues, so hopefully it all sounds great. If you 427 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: didn't hear anything, we are with certain if you. If 428 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: you did hear a few little changes in the sounds, 429 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: were sorry about it, but we kept to go and 430 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: we're getting good at this, Mark Mark. A couple of 431 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: years ago, had this happened, the whole podcast would have 432 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: fell apart, falling apart. Now we're getting good at even 433 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: fixing it on the fly. That's it for today. Thank 434 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: you so much. With Rob and Mark show. I love 435 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: the sound of that. A production of I Heart Radio. 436 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: Don't forget to subscribe on the I Heart Radio app, 437 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: a podcast, or wherever you listen. Leave us a review 438 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: if you can. They really help and all together now 439 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: let me hear you see you out loud. If you're 440 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: going to be naughty, you've got to be take care 441 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: of everybody. It's starting, but spit raw