1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Giants Huddle, a New York Giants podcast. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Huddle podcast. I 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: am John Schmilk. The NFL Combine is in the books. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: To break it all down, is Eric geta Home. He 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: covers the NFL Draft for Yahoo Sports. But first, if 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: you like what you're in the GIHNT Suttle Podcast, find 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: us on all your favorite podcast platform subscribe. You can 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: also find us on the Giants app and on giants 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: dot com slash podcast. Now, let's welcome to our guests. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: He's Eric get Home. He covers the draft for Yahoo's Sports. Eric, 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: first off, thanks for being with us, and tell people 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: how they can find your work. Yeah, they can go 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: to Yahoo Sports and the NFL page there, and most 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: of what I do is draft special this time of year. 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: So I'm glad we got to run into each other 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: down and yeah, it's just an exciting time right now. Absolutely, 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: we did like three two hour shows on there. We 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: have something like twenty five guests on a lot of 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Combine preview. Now we can actually talk about what happened there, 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: which is great because all the testing is in the books, 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: and I guess we'll kind of go through winners and losers. 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: I know that's kind of broad, but we'll try to 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: hit it as best we can. I don't want to 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: spend much time on the quarterbacks, Eric, but I'll throw 25 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: it very broadly to you. How much interest after Joe 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Burrow do you think there's going to be with teams 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: trying to move up in the draft to secure their 28 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: quarterback with to his medicals? Is it Herbert or Love 29 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: that s number three? Does depend on the team. Just 30 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: kind of give me a window into what teams would 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: be thinking they're at the top of the quarterback class. Yeah, 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's all going to be the 33 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: discussion over the coming weeks. And it really did start 34 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: down in India. I mean you heard the Washington Redskins 35 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: say yeah, I mean Ron Rivera offered up the information. 36 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Imagine that you know that, Hey, we're talking to three 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks down here, we're bringing into and we're bringing in 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: Burrow for for our fifteen minute visits and all that. So, 39 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think they're trying to drop up interest. 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: But what if they're questioning Dwayne Askins. What if they're 41 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: suddenly pivoting you know, the Arizona Cardinals. Dude, with Josh Rosen, 42 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: it can happen. This is a new air of NFL 43 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: where you know the windows are shorter, and you know 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: patients and regime changes can can throw everything out the window. 45 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean obviously the Giants there for they're 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna be one of those teams. Were talked about Detroit 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: at three depending on all shakes out. I mean, I 48 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't see four quarterbacks go in the top ten. That 49 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: puts almost all those spots in play, assuming Burrow goes 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: one and it just kind of trickles down from there. Yeah. 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: We had your colleague Charles Robinson on on Friday Show 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: and he said he could see four quarterbacks in the 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: top seven, um, which would which would be pretty amazing. 54 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Jordan love getting a lot of no pun intended love 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: from NFL teams out there. You know. The report of 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: Mammi Herald over the weekends to the Dolphins would rather 57 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: just kind of stay there at five and pick their guy, 58 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: which might motivate someone to to move up ahead of him. 59 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: So I think that would be something definitely UH to 60 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: keep an eye on as the week goes. As for 61 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: the wide receivers, I think it's really interesting. I don't 62 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: know how all these guys are gonna fit into the 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: first two or three rounds where they belong. It seems 64 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: to me there's gonna be a lot of value late. Yeah, 65 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: there's there's no doubt about it. I mean, I'm I'm 66 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: kind of in the process, you know, when we started 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: talking and I was just hit paused on my my rankings, 68 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know that I've had a position dominate 69 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: my top hundred the way receiver is going to and again, 70 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: this is just my rankings. Yes, I talked to people 71 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: from Auntald League. I get a lot of different opinions, 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: but everyone seems to be in agreement with the fact 73 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: that even if you think the top two or three 74 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: guys are in that you know that Mike Evans o 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: b J Range from was the two thousand and thirteen 76 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: fourteen whatever that was. You know, the depth of this 77 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: class where you might be able to get day one 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: or day two talent into day three, that's that's rare. 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: That's that's actually kind of shocking. I don't think there were, 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, enough poor workouts to knock that down or 81 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: change that at all. Too So there were plenty of 82 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: stand ups and NINDI got to skip their drills and 83 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: are gonna be fine, you know, not just the first round. 84 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: This this this thing is gonna gonna leak well into 85 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: day three where you see surprise followers, guys that we 86 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: had ranked in the third round or second round who 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: end up going in the six and you say, what happened? Well, 88 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, if you draft the receiver in the second round, 89 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna take one until later in day three. 90 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: That's just the way it goes sometimes. Yeah, and tell 91 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: me why Denzel Mims isn't gonna be considered now at 92 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: the end of the first round. I mean, he's production. 93 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: He showed he can run routes at the Senior Bowl. 94 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: His not only his size and measurements and his straight 95 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: ahead speed was great and Indy he also ran the 96 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: best three cone drill at six three. He benched a 97 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: lot for a guy with long arms. I don't see 98 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: what this guy's missing now that you see the total package. 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: Is what he's done during this draft process. Yeah, I 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: mean scouts has kind of said, look, he needs to 101 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: add some Christmas and some subtlety to his route running 102 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: and all that. I mean that sounds like nitpicky stuff 103 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: to me when I was calling him in December, and 104 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, in the bowl season everything, he was getting 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: third and fourth round grades. I had one team say 106 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: that he was sort of in the fifth round range 107 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: from from their area scouts. So if there's a player 108 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: who's improved more from the senior Bowl now on of 109 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: the combine, you know, than Mims, I don't know him. 110 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I really think he is one of the 111 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: two or three guys that absolutely helped himself the most. 112 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: And you know, we probably shouldn't have made it that hard, right, 113 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: as laborious as this process can be, I mean, still 114 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: even in a deep class, everything you just said rings true. 115 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: He played well at high level. He's a jump ball specialist. 116 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't always have elite quarterback play down there. 117 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's the thing you're looking at and saying, 118 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: why wouldn't I take him in the top fifty or 119 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: been sneaking to that that end of the first round. 120 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's second round pick all day. 121 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: And there might be a team twenty five and later 122 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: who says, yeah, we're willing to invest the first rounder 123 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: in him. I'm still doing work on him. But I 124 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: think you're right on the button on that one. I'm 125 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: looking at at Chase Claypool and I watched him before 126 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: I went out to Mobile for the Senior Bowl, and 127 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: I did not see a guy that I thought separated 128 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: very easily from defensive backs. Then he goes and runs 129 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: a four four two. His measurements are off the charts, 130 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: is jumping. Was was was very strong. How do you 131 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: think m NFL front officers are viewing him? I know 132 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: some people talked about a move to tight end. In fact, 133 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: his measurements even his speed matches almost perfectly up with 134 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram's numbers when he was at the Combine a 135 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: few years ago. How do you see NFL front office 136 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: is viewing him? Yeah, I think it's kind of similar 137 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: to the guy who was at Notre Dame last year. 138 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Now productive than Boyken. You know, some of the numbers 139 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: were a little bit better, but really similar type of workouts, 140 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: big frame runs fast. Clearly, you know whoever the strength 141 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: coaches that the Notre Dame should get a raid. They've 142 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: got some good looking athletes, Troy Pride and Julian Aquar 143 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: and those guys, So you know that that's a testament 144 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: what they've done in terms of developing these players physically, especially, 145 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: so I guess there's just sort of a little hesitation 146 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, is he is he a 147 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: true outside the numbers receiver? Do you want him more? 148 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: Is that kind of over the middle guys a big 149 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: slot our teams asking him to kind of play that 150 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: tight end dish role. Like like you said with the 151 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, there are very similar measurements, even a little 152 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: taller than him, So, you know, I agree with you. 153 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: There were times when it felt like he was kind 154 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: of gliding out there on tape. But I think from 155 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: like the second half of the Virginia Tech game, he 156 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: had a really tough game against Michigan. I think it 157 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: was like three drop passes, the penalty. He wasn't just 158 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: not his day that day. From the next game on 159 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: when he took over in the fourth quarter against Tech, 160 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: the last five games he played like a different guy. Now, 161 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: some of that was getting on the page with his 162 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: quarter a little bit. You know, I think they're often 163 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: slacked a little bit of cohesion at times. They had 164 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: trouble throw in the football. It was a lot like 165 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about with Donovan people's jones in Michigan. You 166 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: know it. You know it took about six seven games 167 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: for that passing game to really go, So that's part 168 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: of it. But I think what you said is absolutely true. 169 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: And now these combined workouts, these great numbers. As some 170 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: people maybe going back to the tape a little on Claypool, 171 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: how do you see that second group of wide receivers now, Eric, 172 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: because I think that t or after you get past 173 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: the Ceedee Lambs and Judy's out there rugs into that 174 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: mix too, as justin Jefferson kind of vaulted himself ahead 175 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: of the ragers, the Chaults and those guys. How do 176 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: you view that next group after those first three off 177 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: the board? Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting, right. I 178 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: mean Jefferson running well, you know, I think just sort 179 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: of solidified things for him. I wondered, Okay, was he 180 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: a second round pick? Is he somebody that we're gonna 181 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: say we're on the outskirts of the top fifty. But 182 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: I think running the way he did and you know, 183 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: bringing work are at work, ethic and character to the 184 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: to the position as well, he's probably a lock for 185 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: the top twenty five or thirty picks. I I feel 186 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: better about him in the end. A round one that 187 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: ever has so ragor is interesting because the explodesive drill 188 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: numbers are really good, the quickness drill, you know, the 189 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: free cone drill really surprised me with how average his 190 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: number was. That was what he did in college. He 191 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: made people miss you had those sudden cuts. He's a 192 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: tricky one to figure out. Now. He was held back 193 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: as much as any receiver in this class by his 194 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: quarterback place, so it's just a tough study. I think 195 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: he could still work his way into that first round 196 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: range at the at the worst will go you know, 197 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: the first dozen or fifteen picks around too. But he 198 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: might have put on too much weight for the combine. 199 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: That's why you saw him run of four four seven 200 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: and have that you know, very middling three cone numbers. 201 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be shocked if he tried to retest 202 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: that the pro day and gets a little better result, 203 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: and then we start kind of okay, that that makes 204 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: more sense. This is the way it is better at 205 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: and that kind of puts them in that late first 206 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: round range against the final wide receiver question. Eric leisco 207 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: Chenault tried to kind of fight through a core and 208 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: muscle injury that played him during the year ran a 209 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: bead forty times, which I don't think anyone's gonna hold 210 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: against him. But now that it's gonna be pretty much 211 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: it for him, I doubt he's gonna be able to 212 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: do much of this pro day if anything. So, how 213 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: do the team's gonna view him now? And is somebody 214 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: just gonna fall into some gold there if he drops 215 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: the third round because of his I guess not as 216 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: great final year and now his post draft process has 217 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: been wiped out. It's a complicated evaluation for all the 218 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: reasons you just played out there. I mean the history 219 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know, the toe surgery before last year. 220 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: Now this core muscles thing, He's had about four things 221 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: that have either slowed him down or he's had repaired 222 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, at the time, speed that he 223 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: showed India is not how he plays. He's got some 224 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: real first he's a three level threat. I mean, they 225 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: line him up a wildcat quarterback, they line him up inside, outside, 226 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: put him in motion, use them kind the world. This 227 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: past season was frustrating, but he's still sauce of that 228 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: explosive ability. But the injury question is really what I 229 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: come back to. I mean, I I think, right, it 230 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't stun me to see him go you know, three 231 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: and in the draft, whereas you know two months ago, 232 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: I think people were putting eighteens and that just sometimes 233 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: happens when these injury issues crop up. So I was 234 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: a little surprised he didn't have that surgery immediately after 235 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: the season. I think the feeling was, let's give it 236 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: rest to calm down a little bit. Now, do some 237 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: some rehab works, see if they can heal that way. 238 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: They didn't want to put the combine in jeopardy where 239 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: he couldn't work out at all, couldn't train for it. 240 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that game were backfired. It's just those things. So 241 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: you credit the kid for wanting to try to compete. 242 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: But you know, unfortunately now we have a lot of 243 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: more questions we do answers. I'm gonna put these into 244 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: one question because the Giants probably don't have too much 245 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: of in the at the spots. But anything really strike 246 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: you from the running back or tight end groups that 247 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: change your evaluation before you walked into Indianapolis. Yeah, not 248 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: really A super fast group of the one guy at 249 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: running back, who really kind of opened my eyes and 250 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: I just reminded me of he's a special plea cam 251 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: Akers and you know, playing behind a subpar offensive line, 252 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: I would even say that I think they were really 253 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: poor last year. You know, every since Jimbo laughed, felt 254 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: like things really went downhill there. The surrounding cast was 255 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: not up to par. He couldn't showcase stabilities, and watching 256 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: him do drills and turning those numbers, I mean, it's 257 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: just a reminder that had he been at Georgia behind 258 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift line or Wisconsin behind Jonathan Taylor's line, you know, 259 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: we would have seen a different player last year. So 260 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: he's one that I think helped himself tight end. I 261 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: don't know that the numbers were very strange and that 262 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: some guys worked out well in one category but not another. 263 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: They skipped an event, so I don't know that there 264 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: was a whole lot of movement a tight end. But 265 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: Albert okuwban I'm running a four four line certainly open 266 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: my eyes. I had a four six, five or seven 267 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: guys based on the tape I'd watched, So that's that's 268 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting development right there. Well, more impressive 269 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: impressive than that time was your ability to properly pronounce 270 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: that last name and one fell swoop. That was very good. Eric, 271 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: that was impressive. If I wasn't a missou grab, I 272 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: don't think I could have pulled it off. You know, 273 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: the corner from Auburn still tripped me up. So I'm 274 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: not in uh and shape here with my pronunciations real quick. 275 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: On Acres, I was surprised he ran such a poor 276 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: short shuttle time. It was the second slowest time at 277 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: four four two, and they did that little do Stanley drill. 278 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: His feet looked phenomenal. I was just surprised that the 279 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: one Joey did that measured agility wasn't where we kind 280 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: of thought it was gonna be. Yeah, he was lightning 281 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: in that do Stanley drill. He was unbelievable. And then 282 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: that makes me think he's gonna be a great insight 283 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: don't runner anyway. They he just had the perfect sort 284 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: of you know, outlook for that for that type of scheme. 285 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, sometimes these guys will put so 286 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: much into the other trills like the shuttle, I think 287 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: he's lost a little bit of its value. Until sometimes 288 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: they'll just say, all right, I'm having a good day, 289 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: I'll run in, or I haven't trained that much for it. 290 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is. I'm just kind 291 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: of throwing out ideas here, because you're right, it was 292 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: a total outlier from every other number he put up 293 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: an Indie. Did the testing and field drills do anything 294 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: for you to separate the top four offensive lineman in 295 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: this class? I mean they're just they're really good. That's 296 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: the thing. Like, Yeah, I mean you guys could have 297 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: your choice of offensive tackles there. You know, the teams 298 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: picking really from the Giants to four until the Jets 299 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: at eleven. You know, we talked about all the quarterbacks 300 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: going that high. It could be qbs efensive tackles the 301 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: top of the draft dominating, you know, and somewhere in 302 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: there Isaiah Simmons and you know, Jendrick Wills showed superpower 303 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: and pop in those in those blocking drills, he moved well, 304 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: just the worst, unbelievable athlete. I knew it was a 305 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: good athlete, but you know, even better than I think 306 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: I would have expected coming in. You know, Mike Hi Beckon, 307 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say i've been I was the first 308 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: guy on him, but I've been on him for a 309 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: while and even I couldn't have predicted a you know, 310 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: a five point one forty for US three kicking pound guy. 311 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: It's just phenomenal. So he's a special story. You know, 312 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: they hand him the ball a couple of years ago 313 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: on the goal line. I mean, he's clearly got some 314 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: unique traits for a man that's ing. And Andrew Thomas 315 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: has really grown on me. I didn't love him to 316 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: the year. I thought early on, I think he didn't 317 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: have a great game first third of the season. But 318 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: the more of this process has gone on, I realized 319 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: that I was just I was missing it. And he's 320 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: a really good player. So that's probably your top there, 321 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: and I might be missing somebody, but I think that's 322 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: the group that's gonna, you know, gonna go up high 323 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: in the first round. How do you rank Americ And 324 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: can we bury the Tristan Worfs to guard talk now? Please? Yeah? 325 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: Well look, and that's the thing, like, you know, think 326 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: about Brandon Shureff for the Red Kids, Like everybody said, 327 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: he's the tackle, He's a tackle and they put him 328 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: at Guarden. He's an All Pro guard. So I think 329 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: you could put up a guard if you wanted to 330 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: do that, or you know you want to do the 331 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, he'll be a guard this year and then 332 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: we'll move in the left tackle when our free agent 333 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: leaves or something. Sure, no problems. So yeah, he's for 334 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: me a tackle all day long. But you know, could 335 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: he also be an All pro guard? Yes, that's why 336 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: he's my slight number one. I've got him, Becton and 337 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Wills almost back to back in my rankings. All are 338 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: going to get top eight or nine overall grades, and 339 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: then I have Tom. It's just a shade lower in 340 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: the you know, eleven to fourteen range or something like that. 341 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: But again, we're I don't remember last time we had 342 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: four offensive tackles that you could legitimately say are among 343 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: the four of the top twenty players in this draft. 344 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: So it's at the top, really really good for that group. 345 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: I want to dig it on Thomas a little bit 346 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: because I feel like he doesn't get as quite as 347 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: much as pub and respect as the other three. And 348 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: he measured a thirty six inch arms, which is ridiculously good. Um. 349 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: All the PFF numbers show him as the most productive 350 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: offensive tackle allowed the fewest quarterback hits, a fewest pressures, 351 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: things like that. But the one constant I heard from 352 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: people I talked to it in in Indianapolis was that 353 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: his balance was an issue. But I won there balance 354 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: was an issue in that conference. Shouldn't he given have 355 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 1: given up a lot more sacks and quarterback hits if 356 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: that really was that big of a problem. Yeah, I 357 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: mean I didn't quite see it that way, But you 358 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: saw him a little bit tight. There were times when 359 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: he's sort of I don't know if it's he just 360 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have the sort of hip flexibility or something. Again, 361 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not an offensive line code, you know, so 362 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: it's really tough to really truly well unless you talked 363 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: to the player about those specific things. But you know, 364 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: there were times when his sort of footwork looked a 365 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: little choppy, a little bit kind of scatter shot. Yeah, 366 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: but I'm not seeing a player that that was getting 367 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: routinely beat like I did you know Austin Jackson from 368 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: usc who physically same thing, like a really impressive kid. Right, 369 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: just all those as you just mentioned, but the tape 370 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: wasn't there, right, So that's why he's only going to 371 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: be a second or third round pick or something like that, 372 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: whereas these guys they have the tape, they have the measurements, 373 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: and they have the workout numbers that that back up 374 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: what you would expect from a you know, a top 375 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: twel over fifteen picket offensive tackle. So you know, I'll 376 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: have to keep an eye on that. I mean, I 377 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: planned to watch at least one game I haven't seen, 378 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: if not two or three from from all these top prospects, 379 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: just to kind of reinforce all right, Am I there 380 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: with him? Yes? And Thomas is probably one of the 381 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: things that I you know, even though he's good, not me, 382 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: I still need to see a little bit more of him. 383 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: But you're right, you would think that it would have 384 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: been a lot worse that those were the issues that 385 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: are being brought up. The next group of offensive lineman. 386 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: You mentioned Austin Jackson, Josh Jones, Lucas Niang. I know 387 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: some people having the mix there met part maybe other 388 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: names that I'm not mentioning. Who do you like in 389 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: that second group of a lineman? And then where do 390 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: you think those guys start coming off the board. Yeah, 391 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: and that part's a fun one. And and you know, 392 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: getting stuck at Yukon and a team that's struggled and 393 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: things like that, playing the right side, and it took 394 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: him a little while to kind of get that time. 395 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: But you know, this is the kid who you actually 396 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: went to my high school strangely enough, but you know, 397 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: private school in New England. Eight games schedule, not a 398 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: football three. You know, same conference at a j Dillon 399 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: played in some good athletes, but still we're not talking 400 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: about ball powerhouse stuff here. He was a basketball kid 401 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: and he came into there to play basketball in high school. 402 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: They got himnute football. He's sort of a late bloomer 403 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: from that regard. But you know, the last five years 404 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: he sculptured, his body has gotten bigger, hasn't lost his 405 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: mooning skills. I thought he looked really good down on 406 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. You know, looked the part of a 407 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: second round pick to me. So I'm kind of, you know, 408 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: keeping a close eye on him and wouldn't be stunned 409 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: if he ends up cracking the top fifty or something. 410 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: So he's one. You gotta keep an eye on Lucas 411 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: Nyang with the surgery, you know, obviously unfortunate for him, 412 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: but when he played, he's good. I mean, he can 413 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: Maull people, and he's he's got that that size that 414 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: he just can't teach. So I really like him quite 415 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: a bit, you know. And Jackson, he just how to 416 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: be patient with him. You've got to have an offensive 417 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: line coach that's gonna be able to sit there and 418 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: work with him and get the best out of him 419 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: when he's not starting as a rookie, because I can't 420 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: see him just stepping right in and being a left 421 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: tackler in the NFL. So you know, I know some 422 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: people have had him in those first rounds in the 423 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: Monks and maybe he made but he's fall in love 424 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: with him. But for me, he's he's somebody that has 425 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: the great traits and just probably needs some real good 426 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: coaching to kind of get him to that point. How 427 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: about Josh Jones real quick? Oh yeah, Jones. I mean 428 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: here's another kid who the opinions are a little split 429 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: on him something. Yes, He's one that I had people 430 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: telling me third fourth round and other people saying, you know, 431 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: late first. So I think if there's a player who 432 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: could be this year's Arey Dillard, you know, the guy 433 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: kind of all of a sudden we're talking about at 434 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: the first round pick where we weren't doing that a 435 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: month or two ago. He could be it. But I 436 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: will say that not everybody is convinced that that he's great. 437 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: I think some people really like the balance of footwork. Besides, 438 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: he is clearly there. He's sort of the you know, 439 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: the football type athlete at tackle, and I could see him, 440 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, appeal to a handful of teams enough to 441 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: where they could take them that lady edge. Russia was 442 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: never a deep class. Eric. We didn't see Chase Young, 443 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: we didn't see calevon Chase on compete. So obviously that's gonna, 444 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: you know, make the make the class take a bit 445 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: of a hit. Anybody really impressed you from that group, 446 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: And when the Giants are picking at the top of 447 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: that second round and even back into the third, are 448 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: they going to have value at that position or just 449 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: just one of those drafts where it's gonna be tough 450 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: fun to edge rushers. Yeah, I mean started getting into 451 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: the Josh who Chase who's not going to be an 452 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: edge rusher for every single team? Or the Bradley and 453 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: eyes of the Kenny Willikises. I mean, those are all 454 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 1: really good college football players who have some sort of 455 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: physical trait that doesn't match up to what you normally see. 456 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're willing to look past that and 457 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: you feel like you have a system that can help 458 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: spring those guys. Like look at the Tennessee Titans, their 459 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: their defense, their edge guys. Last year we're in the 460 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: two five pound range. They made it work because they're 461 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: off their defensive schemes. So you know, if you're willing 462 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: to stand him up aston rush from a two point stance, 463 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: you know that can sometimes take advantage of that. You know, 464 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: then there's some of these bigger ends like Khalid Kareem, 465 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: who you know, might look like a five technique to 466 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: some teams, but just say, hey, what the name is 467 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: the six or seven? He could be our base end. 468 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: He's just gonna you know, knock the tar out of 469 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: the tight end and and you know, contain the run. 470 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: And so that's where I think those guys are all 471 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna tinna be lumped second, early third, mid third, I guess. 472 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: But as you pointed out, if it's a thin position 473 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: like it appears to be, and a jeza doesn't work 474 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: out great, and if you guys didn't work out at all, yeah, 475 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: maybe there's a maybe there's a run earlier in the position, 476 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: and sometimes those guys get bumped up by ten or 477 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: fifteen picks. I think we can officially proclaim that the 478 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: age of these smaller, undersized late nineties safety looking linebackers 479 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: has arrived because these guys just tested off the chart. 480 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: You Starwart Simmons and just go down the line. Yeah, 481 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: I mean I knew, I knew idea Simmons would would 482 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: look great because he always looks great athletically speaking. Or 483 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: three nine is just stupid. I mean, you know, for 484 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: two or thirty eight pound guy to to cook like 485 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: he was, And the jumping drills were fantastic too, you know, 486 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: right up there with some of the best numbers in 487 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: the last several years. So he's special man, and and 488 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: all this sort of handwringing about oh where do you 489 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: play him is off the ball linebackers and the safety. 490 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a football player. You can come from 491 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: tight ends blitz. Look how the Derwin James thing went 492 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: two years a great So he's special. Kenneth Murray worked 493 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: out like a demon. He was outstanding. Patrick Queen had 494 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good workout, Zach Bond had a good workout, 495 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: and all these guys are slightly different, but man, if 496 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: you can't find a way to use them, maybe you know, 497 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: maybe a new defense and coordinators in order or something 498 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: like that. I find Bond interesting because he was mostly 499 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: edge rusher Wisconsin, but he's gonna play to play off 500 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: the ball more in the NFL. How do you think 501 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: he looked in some of those drills where maybe it 502 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: points to him either transitioning well to a new role 503 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, no, I mean I think he's a 504 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: really good apple natural athlete. There's a qude who played 505 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: quarterback in high school, had the ball in his hands 506 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: and you know they've turned. You know. Uh, think about 507 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: Ryan Connolly, for instance, as another guy who went from 508 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: high school QB too front seven ty for for a 509 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: Wisconsin team that just keeps cranking those dudes out. So 510 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying he's the same player, but 511 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: what I am saying is that if you look at 512 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: how the Patriots used Kyle van Noy, where he can cover, 513 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: you can be a box s guy. You know, you 514 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: could rush the pastor games, rush the pastor twenty five times. 515 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 1: You know, you can live with a guy who's two 516 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: utter and thirty eight pounds rush in the pastor if 517 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: it's eight specific matchup game and you like other games, 518 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: gonna be different that he's a smart kid, he's likable, humble. 519 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's from Brown Deer, Wisconsin, right, I mean 520 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: this is this is somebody who I think still has 521 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of starry eyes about. Wow, I'm going 522 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: to the NFL. He's gonna work hard, he's gonna be 523 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna be something for somebody, That's what I'll say. 524 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: And I think he'll be a nice you know, maybe 525 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: an early second round pick. Some people say late first 526 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: but I think somewhere in that five to fifty range 527 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna upstanding pick. I would love Kenneth Murray or 528 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen to fall to the giant at the top 529 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: of the second round, but sadly after India, I don't 530 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: think that's going to happen. So I've started to dig 531 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: a little bit deeper. Malie Harrison is an interesting player. 532 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: I watched him going into the senior bowling at the 533 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and I'm like, boy, this guy is like, 534 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: you can cover much. Then I look at his testing 535 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, this guy should be able 536 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: to cover. He ran a very good three. Coney ran 537 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: pretty well. When you look at Malie Harrison, do you 538 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: see a guy that has some coverage upside where maybe 539 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: he can develop that part of his game. Yeah. He 540 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: showed a little bit of that the Senior Bowl. You know, 541 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: he out back in the zone and picked off Jordan 542 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: Loves on the final day of practice and you know, 543 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: almost kind of baited into the throw too. And you 544 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: watch that, you say, oh, okay. You know those questions 545 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: we had previously about you know, being a good athlete 546 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: but not a great one, being okay in coverage but 547 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: not great, they make you think that, Okay, perhaps this 548 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: is not a guy who steps in and you know 549 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: he's a Tampa to Mic linebacker who can just drop 550 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: for the yards and be that guy from day one. 551 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: But let's give him some time and let him develop 552 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: his craft a little bit. Another guy who played quarterback 553 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: in high school, so still kind of developing those positional instincts, 554 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: still trying to figure out what he can get away with. 555 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: Can you cheat over here? Can he anticipate plays the 556 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: way he thinks he? I still think some of it 557 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: is trusting his own is It could be wrong about that, 558 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: but I've talked to some people at Ohio say he's 559 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: just starting to scratch the surface of what he can do. 560 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: And last year he played really well. He was, you know, 561 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: a tackle machine. He can you know, he can do 562 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: a lot near the line of scrimmage. But as you 563 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: pointed out, you want to play in the NFL these days, 564 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: off ball linebacker, you've gotta so I feel like the 565 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: potential is there, even if it's not gonna be Christine. 566 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: From day one, people are pumped up about this cornerback 567 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: class coming in and other than maybe Damon On Yet 568 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: maybe Cameron Danceler, it seems like everybody pretty much lived 569 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: up to the building. No, yeah, and Danceler really was 570 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: just the fort r dash that because I saw in 571 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: the positional drills, I thought he looked fantastic. So you know, 572 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: if he goes to his pro day and runs a 573 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: four or five six, which wouldn't be beyond expectation, and 574 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: then you say, absolutely you take him as a you know, 575 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: a zone corner. He's a tough kid, he's smart, he 576 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: takes on all comers. I really like him or net 577 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, you know there's some characters stuff 578 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: teams that had to kind of dive in on a 579 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: little bit. He seems to have matured though, you know, 580 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: not outstanding signs or speed or any kind of physical traits. 581 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: But he's tough. You know, he'll he'll, he'll, he'll take 582 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: on those assignments as well. And I think he has 583 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: a chip. Like all the talk is about Okuda, you know, 584 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: even Sean Wade who went back to school, got more 585 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: buzz than he did. He's interesting, right, I mean, but 586 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: I just I think at this point that Dan's assuming 587 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: he can sort of answer those questions about the forty, 588 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: he's he's he's gonna surprise the people. Yeah, I thought 589 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: on tape he was great. Has C. J. Henderson solidified 590 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: himself as cornerback too? I think? So I know one 591 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: team who has I think either the same grade or 592 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: very similar grades Zokuda and him. So that's the only 593 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: one that I've heard of that most people say Okuda 594 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be, you know, the unquestioned top ten. Henderson 595 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: might be the next top the board. You know, all 596 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: the issues that I kind of worried about before about 597 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: like the the tackling and the competitiveness, I think some 598 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: of it was, you know, him just kind of knowing, 599 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: like I'm coming out this year, I understand it. Let's 600 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: let's be smart about how we go after these guys. 601 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: He's a really good man cover corner in this league. 602 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: Who do you like coming out in this class that 603 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: could really do a good job in the slot. Yeah, 604 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: A Holmes looked good yesterday. You know, he's grown on me. 605 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: He had a kind of an up and down season 606 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: from what I saw, got beat deep a little bit. 607 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: There was some safety issues there and and you know, 608 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: maybe he just didn't trust to, you know, some of 609 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: the things he was seeing in colleges last season. But 610 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: oh my senior ball, he was competitive. You know, I 611 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: thought last night in the drill Sunday night in the drills, 612 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: he looked really good. Um the kids from pent State, 613 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: John Reid, He's he's not anything special physically, five ten 614 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: five pounds whatever he is. Hasn't been asked to be 615 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: like a run defender at all. I don't think he's 616 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: been a core special team or for him. But I 617 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: like the fact that he's tested well now. He seems 618 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: competitive and really smart. He builds computers for fun, Like 619 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: he's just one of those guys that I think can 620 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: can really figure things out on the fly. So he's 621 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a good plot corner. And they're they're quite 622 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: a few. And as we know, I mean that's that's 623 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: sort of your twelfth starter. That's an important part of 624 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: the defense. Grant delpa and Xavier McKinney better look out. 625 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't look ants on Windfield man. I know he's 626 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: only five eight or whatever. I don't care. That dude 627 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: can play football, man. And in the drills, I thought 628 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: he looked like the best safety out there and it 629 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: wasn't close. He'st you know, he's He's the one where 630 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: you can sit there and say, hey, maybe some of 631 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: those seven interceptions you know, sort of luckily fell in 632 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: his hands a little bit. He does have the size questions, 633 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, is he gonna be hold the hold up 634 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 1: at that size and safety Other than LaMarcus Joiner, there 635 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: really aren't a ton of those guys who asked on 636 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: the flip side, what you're talking about is absolutely true. Instincts, 637 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: fluid hips, really good workout. I didn't know what he 638 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: was gonna run. I thought he might run a four 639 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 1: or five seven or something, so good running times from him, 640 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, clearly the bloodlines are elite, right, His dad 641 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: was one of the most steered five nine pound dbs 642 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: in the League's a great tackler. You see it in 643 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: his kids play. That's that's a fact that I don't 644 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: know where to slot. That's really what I'll have to 645 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: say is that some teams are really high on them. 646 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: Some are worried about the injury concerns that made him 647 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: a you know, a fourth year sophomore with two years. 648 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: So that's that. I think second rounds is where he 649 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: hears his name called. But yeah, I mean, it's gonna 650 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: be the right team, right fit who doesn't mind the size, 651 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: questions of the concern final question. Right before we say goodbye, 652 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave the floor open to you. One takeaway, 653 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: two takeaways, three takeaways. Suddenly we haven't mentioned that you 654 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: really are walking out of Indie saying about that. Yeah, 655 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: just where, I like, where does he go to? Because 656 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, let's say the Giants don't take him before 657 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: just for argument's sake, I mean they could. I mean 658 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: I can see exactly why they want them. You know, 659 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator coming from a system where that type 660 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: of player was desired. If he goes that that high. 661 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: It's a great win for the NFL in this new 662 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: era of like that Robot linebacker we were talking about 663 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: earlier on the flip side. If he doesn't, does the 664 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: Arizona take him at eight? You know, where does the 665 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: quarterback run and where does the offensive line run? And 666 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: as he fit into a team trade up for him, 667 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: he's sort of a I don't know. I it's it's 668 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: with the mock drafts and stuff. It's a little hard 669 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: to figure out exactly where he'll go. Does Detroit love 670 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so special special player not knowing 671 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: like derwin Ja was falling the seventeen. I don't think 672 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: we'll have that happen again. But he's he's still not 673 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: clear exactly where in Atlantic. Eric, awesome stuff, my friend. 674 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: We really appreciate the time. Let's do it again before 675 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: the draft and we'll talk to you soon, right pal, 676 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: You got it anytime. Thank you. That's Eric at Home 677 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: covers the NFL Draft for Yahoo Sports. Make sure you 678 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: check out his work. Does a great job covering things. 679 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: Nice to meet him out at the Combine and we'll 680 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: try to do him live at the Combine next year. 681 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: But a great recap there about all the stuff that 682 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: happened at the testing at the NFL Combine over the weekend. 683 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm John Schmulk and once again you can find the 684 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Gihant Suttle podcast and all your favorite platforms, the Giants 685 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: Mobile app and of course giants dot com slash podcast. 686 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: So forst on your favorite podcast platform, the Giants Uttle 687 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: and you will find us. Thanks for being with us, 688 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Everybody. 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