1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: your bets. This's be Joey P joe Pisapia and this 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: is BP NFL and to help us break down the 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: best bets of Week five in the NFL, Terrell Furman 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Junior and the Undertaker himself Andrew Ericksson, and I can 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: tell you Terrell already lined up a lot of ugly today. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: You might have to just kind of cover your eyes 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: and bet it. Some of that worked out last week, 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: and Terrell and I are already getting into it before 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: the show, arguing all over the place. 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: So this is gonna be a hot one today. 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe to the channel wherever you get 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: your podcasts as well, subscribe to Betting Pros, and of 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: course don't get to download the Betting Pros app for 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: iOS and for Android and sink. 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: Your sportsbooks for free. 17 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: That way you could track all your bets across the 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: major sportsbooks in one spot. 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Terrell, you 28 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: and I were arguing about those feelings coming into the 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: show today. To kick things off for us, baby, walk 30 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: us through what you see when it comes to Minnesota, 31 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: New York in London. 32 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we were one hundred percent arguing because I'm 33 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: a cultureron better and so i take the contrarion side 34 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: and I'm on the Jets plus two and a half here, 35 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: and you know what, you know I'm a cuturion better 36 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 3: because I took the Broncos plus seven and a half 37 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: last week. 38 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: You didn't. 39 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: I told you to take them, and I told everybody 40 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: and I got Oh, they were after me too. They 41 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: were laying seven and a half with that Jets team. 42 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: But now this Jets team is a dog and they're 43 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: catching points against the Minnesota Vikings team that's four to 44 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: o this season, and I just don't believe that they're 45 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: going to get to five and oh and I've had 46 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: this written down since the beginning of the year, since 47 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: I've seen the pattern. Daniel Jones, Rot Purdy, CJ. Strout, 48 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, Brian Flora. Defense has been really, really good, 49 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: better than I expected in the beginning of the season. 50 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: But he's also been taking advantage of the fact he's 51 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: been playing younger quarterbacks. He's been throwing them looks that 52 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: they haven't seen before. He's been getting them off of 53 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: their stride. Now he's playing a veteran quarterback in Aaron Rodgers. 54 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: And I know you're not a big Aaron Rodgers guy, 55 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: but look at the end of the day, he's a 56 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: veteran quarterback that has seen these protections, seeing these schemes, 57 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: and he knows where to go with the football. He's 58 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 3: going to make the smart decision with the football. I 59 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: don't need him to go out there and try to 60 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: air the ball out sixty yards downfield. But if you're 61 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: at a third and four and they're throwing this look 62 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: at you, I need you to just be able to 63 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: get the first down and keep the chains moving. And 64 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 3: I think that's what they're going to be able to 65 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: do here. I think that they're going to pick apart 66 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: the defense do enough to continuously put up points on 67 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: board and on the other side of the ball. This 68 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: is the Jets defense to go out there and completely 69 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: have a party and have a day. I think that 70 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: they're still a really, really good defense overall, one of 71 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: the top defenses in the league. And I think this 72 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: is going to be the opportunity where they say, hey, 73 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: after that embarrassing, embarrassing Broncos loss at home, this is 74 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: a big, big get bat spot, a big get right 75 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: spot for him. I like the Jets plus two and 76 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: a half. 77 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 5: Get this done. 78 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: If you really like the Jets, you bet them on 79 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: the money line. Always. 80 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 5: I sprinkled my dogsney line. I don't know. 81 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: You might just take a dog and say you just 82 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: want to, but I always sprinkle the money line on 83 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: all of my dogs. That's why I got Broncos money 84 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: line last week. 85 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: Thank you very good. I'm glad you did. I'm glad 86 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: you did. 87 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: And speaking of Jets being dogs, maybe it's time to 88 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: admit that dog should maybe be taken out behind the 89 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: shed because it's old and it's done, and maybe it's 90 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: it's just the last week I was because I thought, 91 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: if you can't beat bo Nicks in your own building, 92 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: you have zero respect for me. 93 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: Last organization, But now we got to take them behind 94 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: the shed t te boone Nicks. 95 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: At one point at halftime, bow Knicks was seven for 96 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: fifteen for no negative seven yards. 97 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: He was negative. And yet you still find a way 98 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: to lose that game. 99 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: And you think, somehow this organization is gonna pull itself 100 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: up the haunches and rally around each other with all 101 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: these good feelings of us against the world, and get 102 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: on a plane to London and somehow figure it out. 103 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Against the Minnesota Vikings defense, it's been that's been rushing 104 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: guys like crazy. Look, he might be able to recognize 105 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: what's going on, but Kenny stand upright long enough to 106 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: execute against it. That's my question, Andrew Erickson. You could 107 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: clearly see Terrelle and I are fighting. So this is great. 108 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: This is like where Stephen A. Smith we can bring 109 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: him in here. But look, where do you. 110 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: See this game? How are you approaching it? 111 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: Because I understand where Charles coming from with maybe it's 112 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: closer England. Weird things happen, But what's your take on 113 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: Minnesota New York? 114 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, weird things happened in England. But what has been 115 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: the trend a lot of times is the favorite. So 116 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 4: going back to TEA being contrarian, going with the underdog, 117 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: which I like. But the other trend is unders unders 118 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: hit four and out last year in London. All the 119 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: international games last year were under. The total points are 120 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: down this year. We're not gonna just gonna go overseas 121 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: and we're gonna suddenly see, oh well, now the offenses 122 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: are all back, especially when you look at this matchup again. 123 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 4: I still like the Vikings defense a lot. They're three 124 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 4: to one towards the under this season. I still think 125 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: the Jets strength of their team is still on defense. 126 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: It wasn't the defensive fault that they lost to Bonnicks 127 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: because the offense couldn't move the ball. So I like 128 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: this to be a defensive matchup between the Vikings and 129 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: the Jets. Going back to weird things happen in these 130 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: London games, and I think that's gonna result in less 131 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: execution from the offensive sides of both teams. Sam Darnold, 132 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: the production is eventually gonna come down. He's his touchdown 133 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 4: rate is ten percent. That's not sustainable. Year or for 134 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: the entire season. So if he's not throwing nearly as 135 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: many touchdowns, you're gonna see less scoring overall. So for me, 136 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 4: I think that it's the under for me. So I 137 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 4: want to wake up, maybe miss the game, and look 138 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: up and say, hey, if I'm on the West Coast, 139 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: I bet this game. Bet the under. Wake up, Oh, cash, done? 140 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: What I miss nothing? You didn't miss anything, as it's 141 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: your win. Because you woke up and. 142 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: You missed the Jets win, that's what you missed. 143 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: Maybe you missed the Jets win. But if there's not 144 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: a lot of points, which is kind of how I'm 145 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: viewing this game again, Rodgers a little bit banged up. 146 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: I like the under. 147 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's see if we can agree on some 148 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: of the next things that guys have. Actually, I do 149 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: like the forty and a half. I am feeling that. 150 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: Let's go to Terrell second pick. Let's talk about the 151 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. 152 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: T Look, this is a team last week I think 153 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: had some expectations and they fell pretty short. So how 154 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: do they bounce back this week in a situation where 155 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: look against the forty nine ers at times you've seen 156 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: them really show up in those games and give the 157 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: forty nine ers all they can handle. 158 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm gulging towards that direction. I like the Cardinals and 159 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: the points. But what do you like in this one? 160 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? I like the Cardinals and the points. 161 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: Here see we're friends again. 162 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is really just like that is. Hey, 163 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: you're on the right side this time. 164 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 5: Like I like it. I like it. 165 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: So here the Cardinals and it's another Closure Eye Special 166 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: last week. 167 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: And you know what, I'm very annoyed because this is 168 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: what I get. 169 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: I always give out the Closure Eye Special. And you 170 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: know what, I didn't give out the Closure Eyes Special 171 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: because it was the Jacks. And guess what, sure enough, 172 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: the Closure Eye Special hit because when it's ugly is nasty, 173 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: and I still bet it. When it's ugly, nasty and mucky, 174 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: you take it. And now you get the Cardinals here 175 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: after that ill disgusting game against the Commanders where nothing 176 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: possibly went right, but here we are. We have Kyle 177 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: Shanahan yet again, another large favorite. I've talked about this 178 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: on this show when we got the Rams. He's not 179 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: good laying these amount of points. Now, he was able 180 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: to do it last week against the Lowly, Lowly Lowly 181 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: New England Patriots. I think this is a better get 182 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: up spot for the Cardinals playing in their division rivals 183 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: A tame you feel comfortable with Kyler Murray's going to 184 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: go in there and pick apart this San Francisco forty 185 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: nine ers team, who is also a little beat up, 186 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: like I think that they don't have the full assortment 187 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: of their team yet as well. I think this team 188 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: is slightly overrated from where they were last year to 189 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: where they are this year. 190 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 5: This is way too many points. I think Cardinal's gonna cover. 191 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: I was just trying to keep track of all the 192 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: lowlies speaking of the lowly Patriots? 193 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: Do you get that they're lowly? Andrew? 194 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure now you know we 195 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: know better we know about our lowly Patriots. But he 196 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: really had to throw in that last one just to 197 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: stick it to us. 198 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: They play Miami this week. 199 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley was not the answer, at least not yet 200 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: for this offense. The Patriots have no offense to speak of. 201 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: It's already a low number. But Erickson, are we still 202 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: going under in this total? 203 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 204 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: Because the final score is going to be ten to 205 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: seven and seventeen is underneath thirty six points. So yeah, 206 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: I understand that the number is already low, but we 207 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: see plenty of games finish with under twenty points total, 208 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: especially when scoring is down overall in the league. So 209 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the trend. Seven of the dolphins last 210 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: nine games have gone under the total. How can the 211 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 4: Patriots move the ball in this particular matchup? Oh, they 212 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: should run the ball. Oh well, they just put David Andrews, 213 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: their best offensive lineman at center, on injured reserve. Oh okay, 214 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: that's great. Oh their best running back. He might be 215 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: benched because he's fumbled four times in four straight games. 216 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: Not a great look for the offense if you're taking 217 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 4: your best player off the field. So more issues about 218 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: how the Patriots can move the offense. Miami has been 219 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: very boom or bust against the run, so I think 220 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a lot of three and outs. It's 221 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of punts. The only way I 222 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 4: see this game going over is if you're getting wild 223 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 4: turnovers from both sides of the ball. But I don't 224 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: think either team wants to drop back and throw the 225 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: ball forty times. The Patriots, I think, will take their lumps, 226 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 4: run the ball three straight times, punt whatever. 227 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: We don't care. 228 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 4: We're just gonna because they can't pass protect Jacoby Brissettes. 229 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: The Patriots media is talking about, we gotta play Jack May. 230 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: We gotta play Jack May. Guys, Jake May will get 231 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 4: his time because Jacob Brissett's not gonna last the entire 232 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: season if he's taking this many hits every single week. 233 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: He takes more hits than throws actual passes in the game. 234 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: So that's a tangent. That's a side note. But for me, 235 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: I just don't see scenario where with Miami's offense without Tua, 236 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: they have scored more than twenty one points one time 237 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: over the last two seasons. Without two tongue Biola, they 238 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: just can't function at the level that you'd expect with 239 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: all their explosive playmakers. I haven't been encouraged at all 240 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 4: from what I've seen from Miami without two of the 241 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: last two weeks, I haven't seen the game planning I 242 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: expected from McDaniel to really utilize his weapons in the 243 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: best way A chan, why are you running this guy 244 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: up the middle? Get him in space. I'm just not 245 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: seeing that from him. So they have a bye week 246 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: coming up, I think that they're just trying to get 247 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: through this game, maybe escape with a win. I don't 248 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: think you're going to see a dynamic offensive game plan yet. Again, 249 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: I think they really need to kind of get back 250 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: to the basics. When they hit their BIB, we can 251 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 4: then get to a get back in Week eight. So 252 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: for me, both games went over last week for the 253 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: Dolphins and the Patriots. That's not gonna happen two weeks 254 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: in a row. So I'm taking the under. 255 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: I like mi Emmy on this side, man, Like, I 256 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: just think they can have that one play that Tyreek 257 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: Hill makes I do and that's it, that's your touchdown, 258 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: that's your ten of the other teams at three, like, 259 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: I just think you know, at the end of the day, 260 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: is that one player who can have that moment and 261 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: that's all you need to carry you over the day. 262 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: And I just don't know if New England has that 263 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: on their roster and three of those guys. 264 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: How do you feel about Miami's defense, Like, I mean 265 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 3: general New England have at least been able to put 266 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: up some amount of points. 267 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: Like, I haven't seen Miami's defense all year, so I 268 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: couldn't tell. 269 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: You Miami's defense doesn't let us third downs. They're number 270 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 4: one and third down conversion rate. The Patriots can't convert. 271 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: That's the issue with Miami. Like that's why. Yeah, so 272 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 4: I just the Patriots can't move the ball. 273 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: So it's like you know, like you know when you 274 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: when you both when you're. 275 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: Walking and you walk into somebody and they will go 276 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: right and then you go right, and then you're like 277 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: try to get past yours. Oh sorry, and then you 278 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: both go left and then it's oh, I'm sorry sorry. 279 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: That's what this game is. It's like you just want 280 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: to get past each other. No, no, we don't really 281 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: want to get past you. It's gonna look a lot 282 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: like that for about three hours, that's what it is. 283 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: Uh So, before we get on to the next pick, 284 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: here just a quick reminder and everybody to make sure 285 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: you hit up our discord betting pros dot com slash chat. 286 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: It's a great way to you know, kind of work 287 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: through your bets with some of the folks. 288 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: They are. 289 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Some of the analysts are on there as well. Matt 290 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: Parolt's on. 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It's it's not a spot 316 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: that he's ever been good at at all in his 317 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: tenure as a starter since being with the Seattle Seahawks. 318 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: In fact, he's actually for eight in one ats as 319 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: a home favorite for the Seattle Seahawks. And if we 320 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: go and take it a little further and just saying, hey, 321 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: what is he doing when it is over a field goal? 322 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: Even is slightly worse three seven and one, like, he 323 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: does not cover this number. It's just isn't the makeup 324 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: of Gino Smith and this team. They always find a 325 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: way to either allow the other team in the game 326 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: or to just muck up the end of it and 327 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: blow it at the end. Whereas Brian Dable pretty good 328 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: as a dog, he's coached his team up as a 329 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: dog before they were able to cover Thursday. They also 330 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 3: have long rest coming off the Thursday game. With short 331 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: rest for the Seattle Seahawks coming off Monday night football 332 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: going over, I think they're gonna travel. 333 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 5: Well, they're gonna go over there. 334 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: They've been playing Seattle pretty decently, and I think that 335 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: this defense actually gave Seattle a whole bunch of problems 336 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: when they played last year, so I think it's gonna 337 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: be some of the same here. The defense keeps them 338 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: in the game. It's a really, really low scoring game. 339 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: Geno Smith, he does win these games, but he doesn't 340 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: cover them. So I like the Giants plus six and 341 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: a half here in another ugly, ugly, ugly game. 342 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: I'd like a lot more if Neighbors were playing, and 343 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary's banged up too. I just yeah, the Giants 344 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: have only gone over twenty points once this. 345 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: Year, and hey, Jalen Hyatt touchdown, go ahead and play 346 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: that now. I'm calling it now. 347 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, that's the problem is, like, can they 348 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: generate enough offense for this number? That's the only hesitation 349 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: I have Without Neighbors. 350 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: Can they do that? We'll see, But the theory behind 351 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: it's very good. 352 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: That's gonna don't think Seattle's offense is gonna show up. 353 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: What you saw on Monday night, I think is an 354 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: anomaly to the Detroit Lions, and I think the New 355 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: York Giants are gonna play it a lot better. This 356 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: is a low scoring game, and I tell you to 357 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: take the under. 358 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Panthers next. Ericson should 359 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: I call them your Carolina Panthers? I feel like the 360 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: way you were talking about him in the preseason, they should. 361 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: But they're playing the Chicago Go Bears this week. The 362 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: Bears are home favorites, not typically, but they are in 363 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: this one minus three and a half. 364 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: Right now. 365 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: They're two and two. The Panthers are one and three. 366 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: So the Andy Dalton experiment was fun for a week. 367 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Last week kind of came back down to earth. So 368 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: where does that leave the Panthers in Week five? 369 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: I like them on the road again, I don't I 370 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: just how good is this Bears team? Really? Right? Look 371 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: when you look at how they've done at home, So 372 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: they are two and ozer at home and against the spread, 373 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: but it's been by the slimmest of margins. Again. Week 374 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: one was the Will Levis experience. Of course, when you 375 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: look at they've been out gained in both games. Again 376 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: against the Rams last week, the Rams should have won 377 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: that game, all right, But then I've been working out 378 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 4: so I think for me, it really it goes back 379 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: to the turnovers in those games, five to one turnover 380 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: ratio in favor of the Chicago Bears. That's why they've 381 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: won these home games. It's not because they've been the 382 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: better team on paper. They have not. Again, they've been 383 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: out gained by their opponents at home in those two games. 384 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: So I look at Dave canallis, what did he do 385 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: last year with the er Mayfield in this offense when 386 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: they were road underdogs. They were eight and two against 387 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: the spread. He gets the best out of his offense 388 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: when they play on the road, when they're kind of 389 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: when they're not, they're being counted out essentially. So I 390 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: like the Panthers here. I'm not afraid of this Bears team. 391 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams is still not put it all together quite yet. 392 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: I think that he is taking steps and improving, but 393 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 4: I haven't really seen the full package yet. And it 394 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: goes down to I have no faith in Shane Waldron. 395 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: I don't think that he's going to be able to 396 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: devise a game plan as obviously as it is just 397 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: run the ball against Caroline Panthers. The linebackers all hurt, 398 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: their defensive tackles are all hurt. But he's gonna just 399 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: overthink it and think, all right, let's drop back forty 400 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: times with Caleb Williams, this will work and it's not 401 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: going to. So I'm putting my faith into Canalis getting 402 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: the best out of Andy Dalton on the road where 403 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: they're being counted out against just an inferior Bears team 404 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: that I don't think that should be getting this many 405 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: points at even at home, where I think it's kind 406 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 4: of been overrated how well they've played at home. 407 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Look, the Rams should have won that game last week 408 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: in all honesty Week one, they right, I mean, honestly, 409 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: they should be going to at home. Levis handed them 410 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: a victory and Matthew Stafford kind of did too. That 411 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: terrible pick that he threw. They were on the zone, 412 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: like yeah, it absolutely just killed them and they were 413 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: already behind because they're you know. 414 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: Down talent. Let's go to another big match up here, 415 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: AFC Bills Texans. 416 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 6: Now. 417 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: The Bill's coming off of ass kicking of epic proportions 418 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: against the Ravens this past week. The Texans are a 419 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: team that feels a little flat to well, they feel 420 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: like a team that to me, so far is starting 421 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: to understand what the burden of expectation is. Last year 422 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: they had none. This year they have some that we 423 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: could talk about the Stefan Diggs thing. 424 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if that. 425 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: Enters your sphere or not when you're wagering on this game, 426 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: But what do you see in the future for this 427 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: contest between the Texans and the Bills. 428 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: Well, the Bills got be so bad they actually would 429 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: have been a closure Eye special that they were catching 430 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: points this week. 431 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 5: That's how bad that they got beat. 432 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the Bill's one point favorite here, so the closure 433 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: Eye special is not active. However, I'm taking the under. 434 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: I like under forty seven and a half here between 435 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: these two teams. If everybody's thinking, oh, Josh Allen, CJ. 436 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 3: Stroud take the over. But wait just a second. Look 437 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 3: at what the Houston Texans defense does at home. And 438 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to take you on a trip to last 439 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: year and I'm just gonna read off the totals. Gave 440 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: up twenty to Indianapolis, gave up six to the Steelers, 441 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: thirteen to the Saints. They had the big game thirty seven. 442 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 3: You was just talking about how they were on the 443 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 3: road last year thirty seven points two to Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 444 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: Then after that sixteen seventeen, three, fourteen go into this season, 445 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: they've given up twenty to the twenty. They gave up 446 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 3: twenty to the Jags last week, and they gave up 447 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: thirteen to the Bears. This defense does come up big 448 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: at home, and it's been against different quarterbacks, different offices, 449 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: different spots, but the same result. They haven't given up 450 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: more than twenty one points but just once. So I 451 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a little bit of the same year. 452 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: I think the defense is gonna come up. Texas are 453 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: going to look really, really good defensively at home, and 454 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 3: that I questioned Stroud as well. In this offense, and 455 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that the Digs thing is working out, 456 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: and I think that something something is off about that 457 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: offense where they're just not able to consistently put the 458 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: drives together that they need to. So ultimately I think 459 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: this game goes under. I think this is a low 460 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: scoring game. This is going to be more about the 461 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: defenses than both quarterbacks in this game and both of 462 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: the teams. I think with the low point spread, we're 463 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: expecting for it to be competitive. I just suspect for 464 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: it to be defensive and competitive. So yeah, I'm taking 465 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: the under a forty seven. 466 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting that you said that too, because 467 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: I think people's immediate reactions they see these big quarterbacks, 468 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: the big names, and they rush to the over, no 469 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: matter what the number is. And I think you giving 470 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: people pause today is a really interesting point because it 471 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: is a pretty high total forty seven and a half. 472 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: And if you look just back at last week, right 473 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders Arizona, like, oh, these are two teams, right, 474 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: nobody plays defense. These quarterbacks are young and athletic. They're gonna, 475 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, no disappointed, you know, because the Carlin didn't 476 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: keep up there, undo the bargain. So I think you're 477 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: doing a good job here alerting everybody. I think this 478 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: one's when everybody should be on this week. This under 479 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: is really interesting. Next up Cleveland, Washington, speaking of the 480 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: comm So, Cleveland just handed a game to the Raiders 481 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: last week, unbelievable. It's like again, it's like nobody wants 482 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: to win their football games. I don't know what's going 483 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: on here. The conquering hero Jaden Daniels comes home. So 484 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: ericson what does this one look like for you from 485 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: a betting perspective. 486 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 4: Going right back to the over. It's a Commander's game, right, 487 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: So I'm going right back to the over here. Last week, 488 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 4: I still believe the total went over because the Commander 489 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 4: scored so many points on their own that it actually 490 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 4: ended up going over the closing line totals. So I'm 491 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: going back to the over. Nine of the Commander's last 492 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: twelve games have gone over the point total. Basically, the 493 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: number you're looking for is when Washington allows at least 494 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: twenty points on defense, they're twelve to three towards the over. 495 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: You look at the implied team totals this week, the 496 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: Browns sitting at twenty implied points. So all the Browns 497 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 4: have to do is just, hey, do what the expectation is. 498 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: That's all you have to do. 499 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: Don't have to be above average in any way, and 500 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: this game is going to fly over. Look Deshaun Watson, 501 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: for all the criticism that he deserves to have and get, 502 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 4: he had his best game of the season last week. 503 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 4: There were so many points that did not count because 504 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: of penalties because of the drop passes. He threw an 505 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: eighty ar touchdown that got called back because of a 506 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 4: BS holding call, So I think that the numbers are 507 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: going to reflect that more in this matchup. It's a 508 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: match that he can take advantage of against the Commanders 509 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 4: and their horrible secondary looking at the and then I 510 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: also don't think the Browns can stop Jane Daniels. Who 511 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: can stop Jane nanails And I know that there's been 512 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: about oh, well, Jane Daniels, this is a tougher defense 513 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: he hasn't faced yet. What had the Browns shown this 514 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 4: year that looks anything like what they were last year, 515 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: especially when it comes to their home road splits. This 516 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 4: team has historically been much worse defensively when they play 517 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 4: on the road. They are in the bottom of the 518 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: league in terms of misstackles. You look at the Commander's offense, 519 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: one of the best things they are doing is forcing 520 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 4: misstackles between their running backs, wide receivers and tight ends. 521 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 4: So I have no issues about Daniels moving the ball 522 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: against this Brown's defense. And I think that we could 523 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: get something out of Deshaun Watson with Amari Cooper potentially 524 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 4: David and Jokuo coming back with Jerry Judy like the 525 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: over in this game, all right, So the. 526 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: Over for the Cleveland Washington, the under for Bill's Texans. 527 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: Before we get the upset special, give me one more, guys, 528 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Jaguars because they are up against it. Terrell, 529 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: you gotta go zero to five here to start the season. 530 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: That's when people start losing their jobs. So what happens 531 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville? And again we gotta speculate because as of 532 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: now we're not sure exactly who is playing quarterback for 533 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: the Colts. 534 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the same things that happens in Jacksonville 535 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: is the same thing that's been happening in Jacksonville since 536 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. And that's the fact that the Indianapolis Colts 537 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: do not win in Jacksonville. 538 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 5: It doesn't happen. They don't win in Jacksonville. Like, this 539 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 5: is ridiculous. 540 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 3: We're going on, We're going what they haven't won here 541 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: since twenty fourteen, since you're a merger, the NFL merger 542 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 3: has been forever, Like, the Indianapolis Colts do not win 543 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. And so this is this is the AFC 544 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: South South flow chart, and this is the week that 545 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: everybody talks themselves into the Colts. They selt themselves into 546 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco being able to get this done, or they 547 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: taught themselves Anthony Richardson starting and being able to get 548 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 3: this done despite the fact I think Joe Flacco is 549 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: slightly overrated. 550 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 5: I think he had the good eight. 551 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco's back this week, and then it comes back 552 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: down on the road next week, and then Anthony Richardson 553 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: if he does play, Oh well, we should just go 554 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: ahead and lock this up because Anthony Richardson is gonna 555 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: give us the win. I mean, He's gonna throw the 556 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 3: ball in the end zone. And all the critiques that 557 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: I have had about Anthony Richardson in that game before 558 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: the Steelers played last week are still there. They are 559 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: still there no matter how that game ended and him 560 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 3: getting no They're still there. 561 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 5: So Anthony Richardson plays in this game. 562 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: I just do not trust the Colts right now, but 563 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: I really don't trust them in the false prophet that 564 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: is Joe Flacco right now. So absolutely I think this 565 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: is a Jags get the win finally is needed. It 566 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: doesn't mean anything more about the Jags being better about 567 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: their season. Is just reinforces what we already know that 568 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: Indianapolis does not win in Jacksonmith. 569 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: All right, Andrew ericson when we did the look Ahead show, 570 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: and in case you miss it, you can go back 571 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: and watch on the YouTube channel. Came out on Monday 572 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: last pick last game. You and I were talking about 573 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: the Saints. You and I were talking about are the 574 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: Chiefs at a weird vulnerable point right now? 575 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: So we are here now. 576 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: A few days later we said we'd come back to 577 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: this spot and rejoin and come together. So after a 578 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: couple of days of marinate, are on it. Where are 579 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: you when it comes to Chief Saints. 580 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: I'm taking the Saints to win in the upset on 581 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: Monday night Football. Get your popcorn ready, people, because this 582 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: Chiefs team at four and oh yes, they have been great. 583 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 4: Great have they been great? Well, they've been winning games, 584 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: and great teams find ways to win, but eventually your 585 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: luck starts to run out. I compared them to the 586 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: Eagles last year, where the Eagles kept winning all these games, 587 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 4: but you looked at the advanced metrics and you'd say, hm, like, 588 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: how good is this team really? They just lost their 589 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: best wide receiver, Rashie Rice. He's not going to be back, 590 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: probably for the rest of the season. The Chiefs have 591 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: a bye week coming up. They would love to get 592 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 4: on their bi week, and all they have to do 593 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 4: is take care of Derek Carr, a familiar opponent out 594 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 4: It's is Derek Carr whatever. But Derek Carr and this 595 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 4: new offense, they've been pretty good to start the year. 596 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: Derek Carr has one in Kansas City before. Now, many 597 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: quarterbacks have been able to do that. Ever, so where 598 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: the intimidation factor comes into play, where a lot of 599 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 4: teams go into k C is just a place Arrowhead 600 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: Staium Man. You can't go here and win. Derek car 601 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: has already done that, like he has done it before. Again, 602 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 4: he hasn't done it every single time because it's very 603 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: hard to do, but he's gone into Casey and had 604 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: productive games. He's actually two and two against the spread 605 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: in his last four games playing in Kansas City. So 606 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 4: I like Derek Carr with the upset here on the 607 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: road against Kansas City Chiefs, who again there four and zero, 608 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 4: they could be owned four right when you just look 609 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 4: at how close all of these games have been. Week one, 610 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 4: it was the toe, Week two, the Harrison Butker field goal, 611 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: Week three of the pass interference. Week four of the 612 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 4: Chargers were winning that game up and then you had 613 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 4: they also didn't have their offensive tackle. So things that 614 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: just really worked in favor of the Kansas City Chiefs. 615 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 4: I think through the first four weeks of the season, 616 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 4: and I want to take advantage when their luck runs out, 617 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: and I think it runs out on Monday night. 618 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 5: Give me the chief to lose. 619 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Well, that'll bring us to our upset special end Ericson 620 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: and I are holding hands here. We're gonna continue to 621 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: look and so the Saints. The safer way to bet 622 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: this is just to take the Saints with the points 623 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: heavy plus five and a half. That gives you some 624 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: outs here, like if Patrick Mahomes with a minute thirty 625 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: left marches down the field and they get a field 626 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: goal to win the game. 627 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: I think that is the smartest way to take. 628 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: Advantage of what could be something that might be a 629 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: little wrong in the marketplace. Taking the Saints with the 630 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: five and a half was it minus one oh five? 631 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: You're getting on that. That's a really good investment, I think. 632 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: But if you want to have some fun, and as 633 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: Terrell said, if you're gonna back some of your dogs, 634 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: you might as well be button money line too. Then 635 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: you gotta go plus two oh five and throw something 636 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: on there too, just in case Patrick Mahomes can't pull 637 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: the rabbit out of his hat this time at home 638 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: against the Saints. And look, Alvin Kamara's been run the 639 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: foot all with the vengeance, he's been terrific, So you 640 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: gotta look at him as a great way to control 641 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: the game a little bit, control the clock a little bit. 642 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: Don't give Kansas City too many opportunities here and right 643 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: now without Rushie Rice, no Hollywood Brown, Travis Kelce looking 644 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: a little less Travis Kelce most of the time, certainly 645 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: some opportunity, which brings us to. 646 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: The parlay of the week two. 647 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: So let's take the Saints on the money line because 648 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: we're having fun. Look, give me the Seahawks on the 649 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: money line too, just despite Terrell. Give me the Seahawks 650 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: to beat up the Giants. 651 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Terrell said that the. 652 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 5: Straight up, straight up. So that's a pretty good. 653 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: Now, I'm now I'm gonna go take the get the 654 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: Seahawks with the points. 655 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: No, but I'm gonna stay with the Seahawks of the 656 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: money line, the Saints on the money line, and give 657 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: me the Packers minus three to just obliterate the Rams. 658 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna absolutely just stomp a mud hole. 659 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: At minus one point fifteen, you put those three things together, 660 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: you get plus six seventy seven. 661 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: That to me is a good day at the office. 662 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: And the nice thing about it is, if you get 663 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: the Packers to cover the three and Seattle'll win the 664 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: football game that Monday night game is looming, you might 665 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: get offered a cash out, or you can even wait 666 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: in game live. Maybe the Saints go up in that 667 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: first drive, get a score, then you take the cash out. 668 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: So there you go. 669 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: Watch it carefully, folks, parlayser about making money on investments. 670 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: You don't have to see them all the. 671 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: Way through to the end, but we're gonna see the 672 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: show to the end right now. Don't forget to drop 673 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: your comments below. 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