1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm a little little bit like, WHOA, how's this about 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: to go? Because I am so brain dead? 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: Excuse I mean, you're lucky, I said, I'm so tighty, 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: You're lucky. I woke up for this, I know. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: So we had Hello people. Hello. It is Friday and 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: last week, but we're recording early because I'm traveling this week. 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: And last week in Nashville was CMA Fest, and Chip 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: and I basically got our ass to do us work 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: what it is it is, you know. I think overall, 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: this year's CMA Fest was such a b like there 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: were so many gifts, the weather was great, it was 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: cooler than normal. Everyone's level of busy was like fun. Also, yeah, 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: it felt like a very positive vibe. It also felt 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: like CMA Fest was back after covid it last year. 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: It did not feel like that, and it felt a 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: little scary to me to be like, WHOA, is this 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: going to be normal? 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: Energy? This year was lit. It was how loud the 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: crowd was. 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Yes, this year was lit. Our city was just thriving. 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: I would say we had great weather. It wasn't too hot. 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: We didn't get rained until the last day, and it 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: was just great. But there is definitely like a different 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: level of exhaustion that comes after a week like that. 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I gotta give it to you though, Chip, I was 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: literally thinking about this this morning. We so we both 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: work with artists who were hosting the actual like the 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: elk is it called Elpi Field Nissan Stadium. I told you, 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: brain Fart. They host the like big stadiums show. I 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: work with expently. You work with el King, And so 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: it was like we were together a lot this week 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: because they were doing it together, which is always really fun. 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: But like I by Sunday especially was so low vibe, 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: but like I felt like I walked into a room 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, Daria, do you remember that girl? 36 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: She's like, oh wow, just like super negative, suck the 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: energy out of the room. Like I felt like that 38 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: was me. I just could not you didn't, Okay. I 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: was trying really hard to be positive, but I was 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: just like I'm such an absorber of other people's energy. 41 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: So when I'm in a place where I'm in a 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: big group setting multiple days in. 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: A row and like overworked and tired. 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: And I couldn't replenish, like I'm just depleted, Like it's 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: just my little impath soul cannot take it. 46 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: You're like, please, I need a shield. 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I literally want to live in a bubble. But 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: so anyway, by Sunday, I was like very depleted. You 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: were just like you would come up on the side 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: stage so positive. Every time you came up, you like 51 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: kind of trot up and it would make me smile 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: every time, Like you just had such a positive energy 53 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: and some funny story to drop on me every time 54 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: you are. 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: Well. I mean, I'm glad I was able to hide 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: how bad my feet were hurting. 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh is that what it was? 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: This? Yeah? I mean it was just like when you 59 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: stand around on the concrete for that long. 60 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: It just doesn't that make you feel old? Old to 61 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: say out loud? 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: Yes, but you know what I'm doing right after this, 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: going to get a foot massage. 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: You should by the first day, Oh look at it, 65 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: look at him go. The first day it was Thursday, 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: and I had like I had three clients that day 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: and so it was just like nuts the running around. 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: When I got home my hips. 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: I was like needed replacement. 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Literally, probably could have kind of replacement. Yeah, sign me 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: up a quick one quick? 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? What are those drive through ones? 73 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: You know? 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Derek's always talks about like when he sits in the 75 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: makeup chair, he feels like he's being run through, like 76 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: you know how race cars pull off to the side. 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: And that's what I needed that night. 78 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: I just needed someone to come in, yeah, the pit 79 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: to do like actual hip replacement and the replacement massage 80 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: my feet at the same time. 81 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, wouldn't that be amazing, like a car 82 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: wash for your body. I need it. I need it. 83 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: So anyway, we just had we had a week, but 84 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: we made it through. 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: Here we are back. Little surprises. 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: There were some fun surprises, which sort of actually is 87 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: a good transition into the top. 88 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: It made me transitioning. 89 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Well, that could mean a lot of things these days, 90 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: so be careful. We were throwing that around. So one 91 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: of the nights there was so Miranda Lambert was one 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: of the headliners or whatever, and one of the nights 93 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who bring like a lot 94 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: of guests. I would say Miranda brought a couple. She 95 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: had Leon Bridges come out, who I am obsessed with. 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: By the way, that new song of Theirs is fire. 97 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't even hear the song because I was so 98 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: stuck on his fashion, Like I definitely paparazzied him from 99 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: side stage, like trying to get all the scoop on, 100 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: like where he got those clothes? Like he just looks 101 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: he is like a vibe just looking at him, just 102 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: looks cool when he breathes. 103 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: So he came out. But the big one that. 104 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: We were all really really really excited about because it 105 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: was like the teenage me could not contain herself was 106 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: Avril Levine. 107 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy because Elle's glam guy told me 108 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: the day before he was like, oh yeah, I got 109 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: a call about like doing glam for Avril, but I 110 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: was booked. I was like, what is Avril doing in 111 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: Nasholl I had no idea why. And then we were 112 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 2: at rehearsals the next day and Anne walked to Avril 113 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: Levine like not glammed up, like in a big, like 114 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: anarchy T shirt, looking like all of eighteen years old. 115 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, how is she not? Like she literally has 116 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: an aged It's wild. And we were all like, oh 117 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: my god, it's Avril. 118 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: Is it though? 119 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: Or is it Melissa? 120 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: So here's what we want to talk about today. 121 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: When I was sitting there in the dressing room before, 122 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: we were having a similar conversation, someone said something like, oh, yeah, 123 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Avril Levine's gonna be here. I still don't really understand 124 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: that connection. Like her, they. 125 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: Became friends, so I don't know how they met. 126 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: But they probably like Instagram or something. 127 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably Anyway, it came up that Avrol was there, 128 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: and then someone in our dressing room was like, I mean, 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: but you guys do know it's probably not the real Approl, 130 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: just like erk do what excuse me? 131 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: Conspiracy theorist. 132 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: So we're talking about conspiracy theories today and the Okay, 133 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: so the topic this month is the word confront and 134 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: we have also talked about like the edge has just 135 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: got to be lighter. I mean, the world feels really 136 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: heavy sometimes right now, and it's been heavy for a 137 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: big season of time a couple of years, and sometimes 138 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: you just gotta like look at the sunshine, take you know, 139 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: like take the next right step, focus on the positive. 140 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: And so we really like to bring that to you 141 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: guys on Fridays. I know, I'm a little more serious 142 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: in the Wednesday episodes, kind of diving deep into some 143 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: soul searching stuff, and so Chip and I are like, 144 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: we gotta laugh, like that feels like one of the 145 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: most healing things ever, and so kind of this discussion 146 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: about the word confront we were like, but how do 147 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: we keep that light? Confront is a heavy word. I mean, 148 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: it can be it feels. 149 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: Hassy, so it's combative. 150 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does sound combative, but there were some things 151 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: that came up for us. You actually did a really 152 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: good job of explaining it. So I'll let you get 153 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: to that in a second. But I tied it to 154 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: when I came across Averil and I'll tell that story 155 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: in just a minute. But what were you saying before 156 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: we started recording about how you really felt like conspiracy 157 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: theories and the word confront tied together. 158 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: Well, you know, the thing is, conspiracy theories exist because 159 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 2: you know, we all have reasons to not trust big 160 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: pharma and corporations and the government in particular, and you know, 161 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: we we look for reason and truth when a big 162 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: event happens in our lives. So a lot of I 163 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: think when we hear conspiracy theories, it generally has to 164 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: do with like government and like nine to eleven and 165 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: wars and all of these things, the vaccine, and it 166 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: can get really heavy. But you know, all we want 167 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: is the truth and that is why these exist. And 168 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: there are plenty of examples in history where conspiracy theories 169 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: turned out to be actual conspiracies and you drop the 170 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: theory and they were true. But there are a lot 171 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: that are out there that are not true, but they 172 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: are born out of the seeking of truth. So just 173 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: because you think something's true doesn't mean it is, and 174 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: you need to dig deeper. But so we I thought 175 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: the word confront was actually really fitting because how else 176 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: do you get to the truth by by, you know, 177 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: anything other than confronting it and confronting these theories. 178 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: So totally when you said the thing about finding the truth, 179 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: seeking the truth, I'm like, yeah, that is confronting right there, 180 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: That is it. 181 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what we're going to do today. 182 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: That's what we won't do. And we there's obviously some 183 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: really deep topics, you know, like yeah, important things like 184 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: Avri Lavine's you know, body double. 185 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Okay, here's here's how it went down, and here's what happened. 186 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: So we're sitting in the dressing room and someone says 187 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: something about like or is it the real Avril? And 188 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, what are y'all talking about? I don't understand. 189 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: Of course, it's the real Avril, Like, uh, this is 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: the skater boy girl from my childhood, and I'm so 191 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: excited to actually see her in person. There is something 192 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: like and maybe it's the nostalgia, but like, I don't 193 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: get very excited about celebrity anymore unless it's someone who 194 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: I was obsessed with when I was younger. 195 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: Right, that throwback thing, Like yeah, remember when mister Belding 196 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: was around all the time. No, oh my gosh, he 197 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: was around all the time in Nashville, Like really, yeah, 198 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: he was obsessed with He's I think he's really good 199 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: friends with Jason al Dean. Oh my god, how did 200 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: I miss that then? So when was working with him, Yeah, 201 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: he was around a lot, Like that's the kind of 202 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: guy I want to get a photo with, Like exactly. 203 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we see these other huge reason we're like, oh, 204 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: that's fine. 205 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 2: There they are cool. 206 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: But then it's like the people from our childhood are 207 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: definitely geek out. 208 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: So Avril was. 209 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I was obsessed with that first album, like 210 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: definitely ran it dry, like totally did it on repeat 211 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: for months and months and months and months. So anyway, 212 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: when they're starting to talk about this, one of the 213 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: girls says, yeah, you don't know the theory about her, 214 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I obviously don't. And she 215 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: says that the theory out there is that after the 216 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: was the album called Complicated. 217 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: I think it was. 218 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, after the Complicated album, Avril was having a really 219 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: hard time, Like, you know, she's kind of emo. She's 220 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: having a really hard time grappling with all the fame 221 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: because that album. 222 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: Was so big and she was young. 223 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: She was so young, and this was back in the 224 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: day of like that emo punk rock, like that was 225 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: a big thing. Remember, So she was a huge star 226 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: almost overnight with the way that that TV, yeah and 227 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: MTV and all those things, and she was having a 228 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,119 Speaker 1: really hard time with it, and so she committed suicide, 229 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: which is really sad and terrible. However, before that happened, 230 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: they were using this actress Melissa. 231 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: Melissa no last name, Melissa. 232 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: We don't know anything about Melissa other than it's Melissa, 233 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: who looks identical to Avril. Like google it, y'all. When 234 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: I say she looks identical, it is wild. Like I 235 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: keep being like, when are you gonna show me a 236 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: picture of Melissa? Because he's side by side literally looked 237 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: like two pictures of Avril, so apparently they were using 238 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: her as a body double. So when Avril passed away, 239 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: they were like, well, this is this is such a. 240 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: Huge money maker. 241 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: Joe must go on, Melissa, step in and play Avril 242 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: for the. 243 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: Rest of your life. Yeah, because I'm sure Melissa didn't, 244 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: you know, have anything else going on. That's what I'm like. 245 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So immediately I say, okay, guys, So Melissa just 246 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: retires her whole life, like where's her family, where was 247 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: anything about like her friends, her life in general. There's 248 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: all these pieces that don't make sense to me right right. However, 249 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: when you see the pictures, it's very startling because you're like, whatever, 250 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: and there's a couple different Like you can google the 251 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: conspiracy in general and you can see there's like a 252 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: couple things that fans really grip onto with why they 253 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: think this is true. So we're sitting there and I'm like, well, 254 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go scope this out, like we're obviously gonna 255 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: be able to tell when we see her in person. 256 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: My other question is, so, oh, let me just say 257 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: we walk out, we go watch or whatever. We're standing 258 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: side stage. She comes, she comes up, and I was like, no, 259 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: that's definitely Avrol, like one percent Avrol. Then I go 260 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: out front and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna watch this. 261 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: She sings just like Avril, like you could tell it 262 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: was live singing, And I'm like, how is this girl? 263 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: What would the odds that this person looks just like 264 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: Avril and can also sing just like Avril? 265 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: Like there's no chance, right right? And you know she 266 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: was singing with Miranda, whose team we know, like, you 267 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: know her manager, I know her manager if and I'm 268 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: gonna have to text him today and be like, hey, 269 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: great to see you Melissa this weekend. Oh my god, 270 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: see what he says. But you know, she would have 271 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: had to have sung live because if not, she would 272 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: have had to provide a recorded vocal track to Miranda's 273 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: team to be silent. Yeah, it just is so obsessing. 274 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: We would have gotten wind via Miranda's camp that this 275 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: was not true. Right, That's how I feel at least. 276 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: But let me tell you something. Money talks, you know, 277 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: well money talks. But also it is wild with these 278 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. Because I was so anti she comes out, 279 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, this is ridiculous, like whatever, But then 280 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: we go backstage, like as she's like coming back out 281 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: that I could not help myself. 282 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: I really could not. 283 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: She walks past me, and I go, Melissa. 284 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: If she would turn around, I would have died if 285 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: I was next to you and then hapened. 286 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean the group of girls around me did they 287 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: were like whatever. 288 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: I actually was. 289 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: So flustered at myself that I could barely look to 290 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: see if she turned around. But the thing was that 291 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: there she had her like posse, you know, so like 292 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: maybe she didn't hear me, I don't know. 293 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: Or years were still in like or any years. 294 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: She's so trained over the years to be like I 295 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: am no longer Melissa. Maybe they've done hypnosis. 296 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. The thing is, is Avril has you know, 297 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: either av or Melissa have They've like they're aware of 298 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: the conspiracy theory. So it's like I feel like, I mean, 299 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: you actually took a beer risk, where like the real 300 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: Avril could have like turned around and been like, bitch, 301 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: what the fuck did you just say? You know what 302 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: I mean? Like, or she could have laughed with you 303 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: and then like like the teenage Kelly would have fucking 304 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: died if I back in winked at you. 305 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, because I'm dying even 306 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: at the thought. But this is what I was saying 307 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: to you before the podcast. If she is not Melissa, Like, 308 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: if it's just Avril, why has Avril not done a 309 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: side by side video? Like I would be like, Melissa, 310 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: you gotta come be in my video, right, or like 311 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: me do a YouTube. 312 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: It would go viral. Except what if Melissa doesn't exist 313 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: at all and it's just fucking Avril? You know what 314 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean? I feel like Melissa. I feel like she's 315 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: real real. Well, here's the thing. This is why conspiracy 316 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: theories take because there's always just enough nuggets to make 317 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: you be like, something's weird here. You know. 318 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: Apparently Avril has played into it a little bit, like 319 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: she wrote Melissa on her hand in one video or 320 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: something like that. 321 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: I think she's got a Melissa tattoo. 322 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we'll see. But like she's getting another 323 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: girl's name tattooed on her body. 324 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: I think it's funny. 325 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: Melissa's like that's her way to like, you know, what 326 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: is it pay homage. 327 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: Like to her old self. 328 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: She's like, I'm going to get this old name tattooed 329 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: on my body because Melissa has to die. 330 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: Well that you're just giggling Melissa. 331 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if she's Avril, she has to live as 332 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: Avril all the time she has, which is. 333 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: Weird because it means there's two deaths in this situation. 334 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: Avril's dead and so is the old Melissa, Old Melissa, 335 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: sweet Melissa. 336 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I was like really easy, cheesy set up. Well, 337 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: what's your vote? You think it's Melissa or Avril. 338 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: I think it's Avril. 339 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: I actually know the girl who did her glam and 340 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: I could also reach out to her. But I just 341 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's Melissa, I think it's so ironclad 342 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: at this point, like there there there has to be 343 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: very few people that know. And then what would they 344 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: do to her family, like her old family signs an nda. 345 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: I guess, or maybe they killed them, you know, it's 346 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: like leave no trace, leave no trace, huh. Maybe she 347 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: was an orphan Like wow, okay, I mean this is like, 348 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure we could go down some rabbit 349 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: hole that like. 350 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: We're on one. I think that's what this is. 351 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: Oh God, this was supposed to be my day off. 352 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: Not your journey down rabbit hole. 353 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: Now when I have to like get on the internet 354 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: and be down there obviously gonna be doing all day. 355 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: First day, you're gonna be like, is anyone there from 356 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: chip You're like, let me check that rabbit hole. 357 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: No, I'm just going to call you and be like, 358 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: Melissa Ribbit. 359 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's a frog. Now, never mind, Rabbits don't make noise, 360 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: do they. You just ribbeted, just really because ribbitt sounds 361 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: like it. Wow. 362 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: Anyway, this is where we are, This is where our 363 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: lives are at, and the fact that we have microphones 364 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: in our face is probably not good for anyone. Some 365 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: of the other ones that I thought were interesting. This 366 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: celebrity death thing is weird, which, like I always kind 367 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: of feel sad when I first hear about it because 368 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: I think about the family members of the celebrity like that. 369 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: People won't just let it go. Like the Tupac one 370 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: I think we've all heard for many years. 371 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: You know. 372 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: So he's on some island somewhere. He never actually got 373 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: shot and that was because the people met with him 374 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: didn't get shot at They always said that he was 375 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: wearing a bulletproof vest. They never could find the gun. 376 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: There's all these issues that they're with the actual murder 377 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: that they're like, this isn't real, this didn't happen. But 378 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Tupac's family, like how. 379 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: Do you grieve? 380 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: Like, let's say he did actually passed, and then everyone's 381 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: constantly saying like no, no, no, he's on an island. 382 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: It be hard, yeah, because you're like I would like 383 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: to go to that island and see my brother or 384 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: my son. 385 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. There's one about Paul McCartney. Do you know 386 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: about this one? 387 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's apparently been dead for years. 388 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: That one would make me very sad because I love 389 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: Paul McCartney and I especially love him. 390 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Now, well, here's the thing. Tell us, Paul McCartney, like 391 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: you might be able to find the guy that looks 392 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: like him, you might be able to even find somebody 393 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: that can sing like him. How do you inject the 394 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: ingredient of someone that can write a song like him? 395 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: Like that is you can't replace that, and he's continued 396 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: to write amazing songs throughout the rest of his career. 397 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 2: I'm not buying it. 398 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't buy it, I know, but if whoever, if 399 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: that is true, I mean, like I watched recently James 400 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: Corden go visit Paul McCartney's hometown. 401 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: Have you ever. 402 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm obsessa James Gordon. I'm sad that 403 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: shows over. But it was just so he's like such a. 404 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: Warm person and so good at managing the crowds, and 405 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, like he's good at fame, Like you know, 406 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: there's just some people who are really good at being celebrities. 407 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: To me, he feels like that, and so it would 408 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: be really odd to me if it wasn't the real guy. 409 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 3: But they did say they say that. 410 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: The real Paul McCartney was killed in a car crash 411 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven and has been replaced by a 412 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: looklike Yeah, it says the proof crazy. This article we 413 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: found is really funny. It's from Esquire dot com. It 414 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: says the proof playing Revolution nine backwards, various song lyrics, 415 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: various album covers, hundreds of other clues found by fans 416 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: over decades. Who believes it at this point probably Paul McCartney. 417 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the craziest ones from this list is 418 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: that Stevie Wonder can actually see why I mean, And 419 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: it says this is the theory Stevie Wonder, the legendary 420 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: blind singer songwriter is not actually blind. He's just been 421 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: pretending for the last six decades for some reason, like 422 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: why would you like ever write? And then it says 423 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: the proof He frequently attends basketball games a falling mic stand, 424 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: he is interested in photography and once took a photo, 425 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: and he does other things typically reserved for people who 426 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: can see. 427 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: Okay, took a photo is ridiculous because anyone can just 428 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: snap a camera like he could. The mic standing is interesting. 429 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this brings me back to Blessing And remember 430 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: what I did a couple of weeks ago where I 431 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: was like, can you see the chair over there? And 432 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, actually no, Kelly, Okay, you. 433 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: Know there's no context here, Like he could have kicked 434 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: it and felt the force of it. 435 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: What I was going to say is Blessing's instincts and 436 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: his other senses are so much higher than anyone else's 437 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Like he hears, he can hear, he 438 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: hears everything that's happening in the room at all times 439 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: because he's so alert to that, Like he feels energy 440 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: in different ways, like all the things. So the mic 441 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: stand to me is that like he just felt Yeah, 442 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: he could have kicked it. Like you said, the basketball game. 443 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: Is bab fell into him. 444 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: You know, wait, we don't know, we know nothing more context. 445 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: The basketball game thing is dumb too, because it's like 446 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: he could just like the excitement of being there. 447 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: Right. Deaf people go to concerts, right and they feel 448 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: sign language because they feel it. 449 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's vibration. It's like you didn't pick up a 450 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: marking mark. 451 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it, I got you. 452 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: Just try to move on. 453 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: You're like, IM going to try to just let's get 454 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: past this. Let's get she's shown her, she's shown her age, y'all. 455 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not buying Stevie. Wonder if if it was true, 456 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: that's like the biggest sweet kill to all of us 457 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: of all times. 458 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 2: I mean, right, how can I differentiate myself? I know 459 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: I'll be blind, Like what, oh my god, there's like 460 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: I never have to like do like real makeup stuff 461 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: on my eyes. I'll just throw some dark glasses on. 462 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: Like it's great. I can roll out of bed after 463 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: an all nighter, play a fake vocal. Shit, I can 464 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: even die die. Well, I'm just like saying like clearly, 465 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: like it's okay to be famous and you just die 466 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: because they just replace you, you. 467 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: Know, oh, right with an actor. 468 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: I wonder why they haven't replaced Prince yet. I know 469 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: that would have been a good celebrities that I wish 470 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: they would have replaced over. I mean, as much as 471 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: I love Avril Levine, like, I would much rather have 472 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: Prince still with us. Wow, I mean sorry. 473 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been a good one. Maybe there 474 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: was no person who looked just like him. Yeah, his 475 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: talent is like so next level, Like how do you 476 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: even fake that? 477 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? That's I guess. 478 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: So did you read about the Katie Jean Benet Perry one? 479 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: No Katie Jean. Wait a minute, they think that Katy 480 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: Perry is John Ramsey. 481 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: Correct, they said the theory John Madet Ramsey Ramsey. See 482 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: this is where I start to feel a little guilty, 483 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: Like this family lost a child and here. 484 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: We are like the murder crazy theory. 485 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 1: Right, Jamine Ramsey was not murdered in nineteen ninety six 486 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: and actually grew up to be a multi platinum recording artist. 487 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 2: Katy Perry. 488 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: The proof overlapping photos of Katy Perry and Jomene Ramsey. 489 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: Overlapping people believe that this was one guy. 490 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I even tried to click that link. Who 491 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: believes that this one guy and that link no longer exists? 492 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: So right, Yeah, they said Katy Perry's parents and Jomine 493 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: parents Ramsey's parents. I guess they look alike, and Katy 494 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: Perry could definitely resemble that child. 495 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Katy Perry also looks like Pauladine. Like 496 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 2: there's a meme that like has Katie Katy Perry's face 497 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: on pauladine head and it looks like Pauline. 498 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: What's okay, that's weird. Did I ever tell you about 499 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: the time I worked with Poladine? No, though, Oh my god, 500 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: she's so funny and so aggressive. We were working on this, 501 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: like he was at a Harri's casino in Mississippi and 502 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: she had opened a restaurant, like a Palladine restaurant, and 503 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: like she needed a touch up and I had walked away, 504 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: and she goes, where's my makeup? 505 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: Bitch? Like, what is this world? 506 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: I'm getting called that way? 507 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so everyone was like, makeup bitch. Oh wow, that 508 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: photo of Pauladine Katie. I mean, yes, and no, that 509 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: nose is very different. I'm gonna put this picture in 510 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: the link. 511 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: Of this podcast. For you guys, just for your ships 512 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: and giggles. 513 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Okay, there was one that you did talk about that 514 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: happened in Canada. But this is switched away from this celebrity. 515 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: This is like, obviously, we're very aware that there are 516 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: some real deal conspiracy theories, and then this one was 517 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: interesting because it was proven true. 518 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean there are some that you know, 519 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: were that are true and then they become real conspiracies, 520 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: which you know, again gives weight to conspiracy theories because 521 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: it's you know, if there's ever something that like you 522 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: don't trust the government for and it turns out to 523 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: be true, then it's it gives you know, a little 524 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: bit more credence to these crazy ideas like yeah, you know, 525 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 2: Beyonce is Solange's mother. It's so crazy. But there was 526 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory or conspiracy that the Canadian government was 527 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: so paranoid about homosexuality that it developed a gait Ar 528 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: machine year from This was in the sixties, So this 529 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: is from Reader's Digest, and the truth was it really 530 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: happened in the nineteen sixties. The government hired a university 531 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: professor to develop and detect a way to detect homosexuality. 532 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: In federal employees. He came up with a machine that 533 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: measured the people dilation in response to same sex erotic imagery. 534 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: The government then used it to exclude or far more 535 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: than four hundred men from civil service, the military, and 536 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: the Mounties, which is what they call their police. The 537 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: American government is also guilty, and they had some other 538 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: operations that were similar to this. What crazy, So it 539 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: was a pill they took. No, No, it was a machine. 540 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: So I guess they would probably be looking into this machine. 541 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: And then they were shown gay porn and if your 542 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: eyes dilated a certain way, arousal and they would fire you. 543 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous though, because people could be stimulated by sex, 544 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: like regardless of your sexuality. It's just like sex, you 545 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 546 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course here or like just nervousness. Nervousness, right, 547 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: we get nervous during sex too. Okay, here's another one 548 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: that turned out to be true. There is alien evidence 549 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 2: in the American Southwest, the conspiracy that Et is buried 550 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: in the desert of New Mexico. This is true, but 551 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: it's different. The Atari game for Et from the movie 552 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: failed so miserably that the Atari buried a bunch of 553 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: copies of it in New Mexico. 554 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I gotchaick us, gotcha, going back to the Gator. 555 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: Did you ever see that episode of the Office? No, 556 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, okay. I was so weird that this 557 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: came up on this podcast because I've been watching like 558 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: the Superfan episodes. So the thing about other thing about 559 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: CMAFS is it's really late nights, and it's like you're 560 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: so tired, you know, you get home, it's like after 561 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: midnight whatever, You're so tired, but you're so overstimulated that 562 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: you can't go to sleep, and so I try to 563 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: put it on something mindless to like wind down or whatever. 564 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: And so I've been watching The Office, the Superfan episodes. 565 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: That show is so funny. It's so ridiculously inappropriate, though, 566 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: like I don't know that they could have gotten away 567 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: with it in this right, like they got away with 568 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: a lot, but it was all in fun and like 569 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: in humor. You can you know that they're making fun 570 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: of how inappropriate what they're saying is. Of course, yeah, 571 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: it's so it makes it less offensive. I guess, Yeah, 572 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: what's the what's the word when it's like satire? 573 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: Yes? 574 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 1: Yes, so in this one episode, they find out that 575 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Oscar is gay, and it's this whole thing, like Michael 576 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: tries to normalize it because he made such a big 577 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: deal out of it at first, and he like kisses 578 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: him in front of everyone, like it's all that he's like, 579 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: he's like in see, I'm fine, Like he was gonna 580 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: die if he kissed you know, Like it's like so ridiculous. 581 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: But then Dwight, if you guys are familiar with the 582 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: episodes or whatever, Jim isn't working at Scranton Scranton. I 583 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: love that I'm giving you guys such a detailed description 584 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: of the office. He's not working in the scrant In office. 585 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: So but he still messes with Dwight. They have this 586 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: very like kind of just fuck with each other relationship, 587 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: and so Dwight decides that he has to be able 588 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: to detect who else in the office is gay, and 589 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: so Jim sends him this machine and it looks like 590 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: a metal detector, but he says it's a gatar and 591 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: he has it like to where he can walk up 592 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: to people and it'll be So he walks up to 593 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: Oscar and it kind of beeps, but then the twist 594 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: is that he puts it on himself, and it's like 595 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: like somehow Jim rigs it so that it goes wild 596 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: when it's on Dwight, So he's you know. 597 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: Do you get it? Yeah? 598 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: Anyway, ha ha ha. 599 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: There's always a way to the truth, even if it's 600 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: not the truth, you know, right. 601 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: All in good fun anyway in the office. Go check 602 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: out that episode. 603 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: It's a really good Did you have another. 604 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: One for us? Well? I was just gonna well, it 605 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: was funny because when you brought up this topic, it 606 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: reminded me of a conversation that I had with someone 607 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: at dinner last week. And this one isn't necessarily pop culture. 608 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: I guess it is pop culture of the day, okay, 609 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: but it also leans into politics a little bit. Like 610 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: it was just all of these similarities between Lincoln and Kennedy, 611 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: who were both obviously assassinating. Yeah, so I just wanted 612 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: to read through them. It's because it's kind of fun, 613 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: but it's not really I've read that art. 614 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: It's not a. 615 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: Conspiracy theory theory, but it is just like I think 616 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: you could this. The reason why I want to include 617 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: this is because it shows how people can find little 618 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: things that seem like they mean something. 619 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: And you're like, cool, it's just a coincidence. 620 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Lincoln and Kennedy both have seven letters. They were 621 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: both elected in Congress in forty six and then later 622 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: the presidency in sixty. In sixty you know, one was 623 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: eighteen forty six. Yeah, it was nineteen forty six. Both 624 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: assassins were born in thirty nine and were known by 625 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: three names composed of fifteen letters. That is weird. Yeah. 626 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse. 627 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in the theater. 628 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: They were both Southerners. Both president's successors were named Johnson 629 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: and born in o eight. Both Lincoln and Kennedy were 630 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: particularly concerned with civil rights and made there's views, you know, 631 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: strongly known. Both presidents were shot in the head on 632 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: a Friday. Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy who told 633 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: him not to go to Ford's theater. Kennedy had a 634 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: secretary named Evelyn Lincoln and she wanted not going to 635 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: go to Dallas, and both Oswald and Booth were killed 636 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: before they could be put on trial. This, I mean, 637 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: it is wild, this is right. Some of those things 638 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: have been debunked, but it's just it's it just shows 639 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: like how easy it is to be like, oh, that's 640 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: there's got to be something there, Like the government has 641 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: to be involved in these murders, you know, like this 642 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: has to be Melissa. Yeah, everything comes back to Melissa. Guys, 643 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 2: if you have any friends named Melissa, find out who 644 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: they really are, just start calling them Averrol. 645 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: It also the thing that was popping into my head 646 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: when you were reading all this the same the coincidences 647 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: or whatever, is I wonder if the assassin was it 648 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald with Kennedy, like he could have seen 649 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: the stuff, he could have been modeling his assassination after 650 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln. We don't know, do you know what I mean? 651 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So. 652 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: It's not really a coincidence. It's more like strategic. Yeah, 653 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: and he's trying to send a message. But we'll never 654 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: know because he was murdered very quickly after. 655 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: Which is part of the problem of like us, you know, 656 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: sort of glorifying and making you know, these terrible criminals 657 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: like famous for shit, you know, like we should never 658 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 2: use their names. Well that's why they don't. 659 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: They're not releasing a lot of information about the manifesto 660 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: from the Nashville shooters because they're like, they don't want 661 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: other people to mimic. 662 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: It, right, makes sense, I know, I agree, well, but 663 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: you know, this has obviously been pretty light, but I 664 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: do think it we would be remiss if we didn't 665 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: like acknowledge the fact that like conspiracy theories can actually 666 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: be really dangerous and they're probably listeners that have family 667 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: members that have been sucked into them. There's actual psychology 668 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: behind why they work and why they even you know, exist, 669 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: and if you have somebody that's struggling with it, it 670 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: can be a really hard thing to navigate, and you 671 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: can go to the Anti Defamation Leagues website. It's just 672 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: the ADL dot org, I believe, okay, and there are 673 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: resources there that can help you sort of navigate that 674 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 2: and right as soon as it's work their way out 675 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: of it. Yeah. Yeah. 676 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: As fun as this topic is, it's sort of like 677 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: anything else in this day and age, where it's like 678 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: there is also the extreme side of it that. Yeah, 679 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: it seems like has kind of been the cause of 680 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: some of the big things that have happened in our 681 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: country over. 682 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: The last couple of years. 683 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, definitely, I will link that website in 684 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: the description of this podcast. If you or anyone you 685 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: know is going through would that be called a struggle 686 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: or just like or kind of facing that maybe you want? 687 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I do. I do think it's a struggle, 688 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: because you know, there's a million examples that I've seen 689 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: over the last few years of like people being like, 690 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: I don't know my mother anymore because she's so far 691 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: down a QAnon rabbit hole, right right, so absurd, but 692 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: she believes it, you know, And it's like it's tearing 693 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: families apart, it's tearing our country apart, and you know, 694 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: it's a it's a real struggle, you know. And there 695 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: is psycho and this article on that sho'll link to, 696 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: like it breaks down the psychology of like why they happen, 697 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's people need real help from 698 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: these things. Well it seems very very dangerous, is that 699 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: part of it? Yeah? 700 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: I feel like that, And that's we kind of have 701 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: been touching on this the last couple of weeks. But 702 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: the media really does play into that too, So I'm 703 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: sure it's exacerbating all the issues here. You know, they 704 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: like we all have this fear, and we have a 705 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: deep sense of a need for security as humans, and 706 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: so when that's threatens, we want to do whatever we 707 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: can to survive and protect ourselves. So I feel like 708 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: someone fixated on like figuring it out could be part 709 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: of that. Like that actually makes sense to me to 710 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: kind of soothe your brain, you know. 711 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it's you know, like there are plenty 712 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: of examples of when the some of these things have 713 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: become true, especially in terms of the government. Yeah, so 714 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: there are real reasons to not trust the government, and 715 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, people play into that fear. 716 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So we'll put the link to that 717 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: in the description of this podcast. Obviously, Like the thing 718 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: about Avrol and Melissa, that's not affecting my day to day, 719 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: so it's pretty easy to let go of. As you 720 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: walk away, I'm like Melissa, and then she doesn't turn around. 721 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm like cool, that's like all I need to and 722 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: we're done. 723 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: You know. 724 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: But if there's something else that's like a bigger issue 725 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: in your life or a deeper questioning situation. 726 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: Go check out that website tip. 727 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: Do you have anything else you would like to leave 728 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 3: the people with this? 729 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: I mean Friday morning. I think I think we've done 730 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: enough damage. 731 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 3: Do you think we've done enough today? 732 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: I actually do. I'm sorry, y'all, that's all I should 733 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: I would like. 734 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: I literally just feel like we need to apologize. 735 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, or I hope you can laugh at it like 736 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: I do too. I'm sorry to any Melissa's out there 737 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: who are gonna catch ship for this. 738 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: Avril or Melissa. There's you know what, there's no other Avrils. 739 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: We'll say that unless it's Melissa. But right, all right, 740 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: well you text her manager. Get back to us next 741 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: week on the follow up of this podcast. We're gonna research. Actually, 742 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: we'll be back. We'll be back next week with more 743 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: information for you guys. I know you're gonna be on 744 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: pins and needles. I hope you can wait till next Friday. 745 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: And as you guys go into the weekend and you're 746 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: living on the edge, I hope you always remember to 747 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: act y'all. Just need to add casual now, yeah. 748 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: So why did you add that? Okay, it's because of me, 749 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 2: because I need. 750 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 3: To act casual right now, right now. Okay, I'm going 751 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: to get on my plane. 752 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to get a foot massage. Bye bye 753 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 3: Mm hmm.