1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: We're going to play you some more clips from the 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: They Let Us Burn rally in the Palisades a year 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: since the fire. Other things that we are going to 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: cover along the way. Well, Deverra's gonna have constant updates 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: on what happened in Minnesota. An ice agent shot a 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: woman to death. 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: She was. 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Driving a car and the ice agent was standing in 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: front of the car and it looks as if he 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: felt that she was trying to run him over, and 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: so he fired a shot through the windshield and she 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: ended up dead. There's more to the story, but that's 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: the basics. A lot of people are gathering in Minneapolis 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are angry, and we are 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: just watching to see if that turns into some kind 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: of some kind of riot. And then secondly, Nick Reiner 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: appeared in court today for an arraignment and the big 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: shock was his high profile attorney, Alan Jackson quit the case. 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: Said he had to, but didn't explain, and so now 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Nick Reiner has been assigned to a public defender. We'll 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: had more on that with Royal Oaks, our legal analyst. 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Next hour. I want to continue, though, so that you 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: can hear and feel what these palis Age residents have 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: been going through for the last year. And I'm going 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: to start with I talked with a sister and a brother, 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: Ann and Joe Giuliano, and they lost their childhood home. 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: And they. 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: And especially went on at length with all the things 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: that have gone wrong in the city's response, well, the preparation, 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: the lack of preparation, the lack of response, and the 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: difficulty that since then as the city tries to rebuild, 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: the neighborhood tries to rebuild. 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's. 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: Play this cut number six And and Joe Giuliana, all right, 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk with the woman here. She's got a 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: sign that says, stop the propaganda. We need a boss, 40 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: not bess. I like that sign. What's your name? 41 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: And Juliano? 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: And and did you lose a home here? 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: Yes, we did. It's the childhood home my brother and 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 3: I grew up in. 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: What what's the thing that makes you the craziest? I 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: know there's probably twenty five things, But what's the stuff 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: that you repeatedly go back to? 49 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: There's a lot that day when we evacuated, you know, 50 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: I smelt the smoke. I went outside, I saw it. 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: We were very close to the start of the fire, 52 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: and we just left immediately. And at that point I 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: said to myself, I'll be back tonight. We have the 54 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: best fire department in the world. And you know two 55 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: days later our house burned down. Two days later, Yeah, 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: that does not make sense. I have video footage from 57 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 3: an off duty fire department official of our house when 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: it caught on fire. Not one fire chop is on 59 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: that street. 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: So for two days nobody showed up on your block. 61 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what happened that day our ring 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: camera went off, but I know the day of the 63 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: house burned down, there was not one fire truck on 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: our street. 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: When you hear the stories this week in the Times 66 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: about how there were seven rewrites of the investigative report, 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: this morning they found out that it was sent to 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: Karen Bass and she wanted more refinements. 69 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we knew that this is not this is not 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: a mistake and not just bad management. That's why I 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: say this is propaganda. They call it a wildfire, they 72 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: call it a natural fire. This was not wild This 73 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: was not natural. This was not one day. This was 74 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: an entire month of decisions made to destroy this community. 75 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't know why I was going to ask you why. 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people feel the way you do. Yeah. 77 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't discount anything anymore, but it seemed, well, you're 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: in the slogan of this whole rally. 79 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: They let it burn. Why would they let it burn? 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think that the report from 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: on the fire department is tip of the iceberg. Were 82 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 3: you here that day that week when it went on fire. 83 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: I live in Brentwood. 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you remember the media conferences every morning they 85 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: all stood up thanked themselves for the great job they 86 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: were doing. I have tons of video footage where there 87 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: are just fire trucks that are not there. You have 88 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: a friend who in New York asked to come and help. 89 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: They were told not to come. They were told not 90 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: to help. We have volunteer firefighters, over one thousand called in. 91 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: They were told not to come. Why Why wouldn't you 92 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: put every resource and the amount of effort that was 93 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: given to the city and to this town to be 94 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: able to save it, and it wasn't given. And days 95 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: and days went by where nothing happened and they refuse 96 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: that help. That's not a mistake. I don't understand why 97 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: you would do that. Is not a mistake. It's on purpose. 98 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: And I really think we need to be treated with respect, 99 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: We need to be told the truth. But if you 100 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: don't want to tell me the truth, fun, don't tell 101 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: me the truth. But don't call it a natural fire. 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: Don't call it a wildfire. There's just completely man made. 103 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: And I don't know why. 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: The part where the State Parks reps throughout the LA 105 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: Fire Department and they actually left in order to save 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: the milkfitch plant for being trampled on. 107 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: That one will stick in my head forever. 108 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: There's a lot of. 109 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: Things about what happened in January of last year that 110 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: needs to be questioned. 111 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: There's a lot of things. Do you think you're ever 112 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: going to get yourself in? 113 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: It's why is a reservoir still empty? Why haven't they 114 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: filled that up? 115 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: They're still homes in the highlands? 116 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: A little bit idea, Thank you very much? Your name 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: again and Juliano and now this is your brother? Yeah, 118 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: all right, so we're gonna talk to Anne's brother now, 119 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: who's holding a sign Fixed Sale Services yeah, just about 120 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: all of them. What's your name, Joe, Joe, Juliana, Joe. 121 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: We just talked to your sister there. What are your 122 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: feelings about all of it? 123 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: Sure? 124 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 5: So it's very complicated. I think the sense of loss 125 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 5: is enormous because it's not just a house. It's losing 126 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 5: the whole, so much of the community, all the schools 127 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 5: that we went to growing up, the library, the just 128 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 5: where we used to play, the grocery stores, everything, and 129 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 5: so it's it's just massive. And it should have never happened. 130 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 5: And that was always our thought, is it should it 131 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 5: never happened. 132 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: You're just through a list of things that they didn't 133 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: do or that they botched, and at the end, she goes, 134 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: it makes me wonder, you know it was it on purpose? 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: Why would they do this? What do you think? 136 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 5: I can't understand it either, because I can't understand why 137 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: when you know you have a reservoir that it's meant 138 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: for backup firefighting purposes and you've left it empty for 139 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 5: so long and it was so cheap to put water 140 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 5: in there, and they didn't do it, and why would 141 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 5: you do that? You don't drive around town on an 142 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 5: empty tank of gas and wait for your car to 143 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 5: putter out, you go to the fill station, you fill 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: it up. So why didn't they do that? And so, 145 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 5: And it's not a short period of time, it's not 146 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 5: a week or a month. 147 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: It was. 148 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's very difficult to not think that that 149 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 5: was not just negligence, not just recklessness, but intentional. 150 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: And then they tell you, well, it wouldn't have mattered, 151 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: that's a lie. 152 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 5: Why did they tell the firefighters to stand down? Didn't 153 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 5: they say they did that because there was no water? 154 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't believe any of that. And we've 155 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 5: had our family has lived here for fifty years, and 156 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 5: we've seen fires throughout those fifty years, and they've always 157 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 5: been caught before there have been any structure fires or 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 5: very few structure fires, having this many structures burned down, 159 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: having right here in this building, right here, that was 160 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 5: what nineteen ten or something like that, over one hundred 161 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 5: years old, caught on fire. I mean, come on, it's 162 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 5: very difficult to to say that these mistakes were inconsequential. 163 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: What do you want done now? Fix LA services? 164 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 5: You know, the water department should provide water, the fire 165 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 5: department should fight fires. The LAPD screwed up too, because 166 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: they screwed up on evacuation, told people to abandon their cars. 167 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: We almost had a. 168 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 5: Bunch of people, you know, burn and running from their 169 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 5: part cars on Palisades drives. They screwed up on that. 170 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 5: There's nobody here fighting any fires. We couldn't even come 171 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 5: back to our house to save their replaceables. You know 172 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 5: what was that for? 173 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: LAPD? 174 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 5: So all the LA services failed us and all of 175 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: them need to be fixed. 176 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: All right, thanks very much, all right, brother and sister 177 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: Anne and Joe Juliano. The firefighters were loitering around on 178 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: a beach off of PCH at the very time that 179 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: homes were burning. They were sitting around, eating lunch, playing cards. 180 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: Multiple reports, but this went on. Why did the fire 181 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: department stand down? How could you have the biggest fire 182 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles history? 183 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: And the fire department Remember. 184 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: A lot of guys were sent home, but the ones 185 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: that were not sent home were standing around, and we're 186 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: told not to go to work, not to do anything. 187 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: Why would you do that? Who told them not to 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: put out the fire? 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: Oh? 190 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: And that question hangs in the air over every conversation 191 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: I had today and many many others that I've had 192 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: off the air with people. 193 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: We got more coming up. 194 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 195 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 6: six forty. 196 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: We spent this morning at in the Pacific Palisades. The 197 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: rally They Let Us Burn was the title of it, 198 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: and it was put on by Spencer Pratt, the reality 199 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: show star, and Jeremy Patdower, And then you had Karen 200 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: Bass smearing them, claiming they were there for profit, and 201 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: Padower said, no, I spent forty thousand dollars of my 202 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: own money. There was no profit, there was no income, 203 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: nobody was charged for anything. So she's very frustrated because 204 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: people don't believe her lies anymore, and believe me, there's 205 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: not one resident there, and there's well over a thousand, 206 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: not one person who believes anything. 207 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: Karen Bass says. 208 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: In fact, they would be happy if she just if 209 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: she would just move away. They don't want to hear 210 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: her voice anymore. They don't believe anything, and they don't 211 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: believe because they've been lied to. They don't believe anything. 212 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: Avenusman says, they don't believe anything from the Los Angeles 213 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: Fire Department. Everybody's blown their credibility to smithereens and this week, 214 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: we find out that there were seven versions, seven different 215 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: drafts of it. After action report, which is supposed to 216 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: be nothing but facts. It's supposed to just state what 217 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: happened and what could be done better next time. When 218 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: you rewrite something seven times, it means you're covering things up, 219 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: you're lying. And they found out that one of the 220 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: versions actually went to Karen Bass and she demanded changes. 221 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: And that's even upset the Fire Commissioner or the President 222 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: of the Fire Commission, Janethia Hudley Hayes, who up to 223 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: this point said that she really didn't pay attention, just 224 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: gave it a read through and really had no further questions. 225 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: She was just going to accept the report as is. 226 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: Then found out that there was all kinds of shenanigans 227 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: going on, and now she's speaking out against us. 228 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: So there's something really rotten. 229 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: And Karen Bass is now lashing out at the victims, 230 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: lashing out at the people who dare criticize her. No 231 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: wonder she fired Kristin Crowley, who by the way, is 232 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: her own back of problems because she was horrifically incompetent, 233 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: and I mean I mean her hires. Her hires have 234 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: been awful, Karen Bess, Geniseez, the good crazy lady who 235 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: ran the homeless agency of Valicia Adams Gallum and Rob 236 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Sorry these this is all DEI hiring, is what it is, 237 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: and and their disasters. They weren't hired for their intelligence, 238 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: that weren't hired for their competence. And I think what 239 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: I'm struggling with a lot of people are struggling with 240 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: is how can so many people botch the job in 241 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: so many different ways for so long? Literally nobody did 242 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: anything right. And that is not an overstatement, That is 243 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: not hyperbole or any kind of exaggeration. Literally every key 244 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: person in the chain, every agency in the chain, screwed 245 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: up very badly. 246 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: Now is that possible? 247 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: At what point when you look at dozens of people 248 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: doing stupid things do you start to wonder? Was this 249 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: some kind of a wacky plot? I mean, imagine kicking 250 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: the fire department out of a hotspot and nobody went 251 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: back there. They got kicked out I think on January 252 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: first or second, and nobody went back even after the 253 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: National Weather Service set out all the morning. It's like 254 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm supposed, I mean, really was benign? 255 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 7: Is this? 256 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: Everybody went stupid at the same time, everybody went stupid. 257 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: Everybody who's constantly compulsively scrolling and scrolling and scrolling got 258 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: all these National Weather Service warnings and they all looked 259 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: at them and no reaction. Hey, maybe we should go 260 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: look at that hotspot that still was smoldering, because strong 261 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: winds could kick that up in a matter of minutes. Nobody, 262 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: nobody in the fire department. That's just not possible. So 263 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: you're asking me and everyone else to believe something that 264 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: doesn't seem possible. Now, I don't exactly know what the 265 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: evil conspiracy theory would be, and I don't know what 266 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: the upside of this would be. But the other conclusion 267 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: is is that everybody's that stupid, that incompetent, that lazy, 268 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: that dense. 269 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: I a. 270 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: Completely flummoxed by this, and so is everybody there. And 271 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: that's why somebody like Spencer Pratt can stand up there 272 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: and announce he's running for mayor and the whole place 273 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: goes crazy. Everybody starts screaming. And before you say, oh, 274 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: that can't happen, that's impossible. 275 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: He's a reality star. He's crazy, He's this and that. 276 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: Just watch it. That's what they said about Trump. 277 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: When people get really really fed up, really disgusted, when 278 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: they're at the end of the line where they've disrespected 279 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: and kicked and spit on and condescended to something crazy 280 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: could happen. Maybe something crazy needs to happen. You can't 281 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: actually wake up in twenty twenty seven and Karen bass 282 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: is being sworn in as the mayor again, can you 283 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: have that? Or at the end of twenty twenty six, 284 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: can't go on this way? And for people in other 285 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: parts of the city, eight you're next next time? Something bad, 286 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: In fact, something bad is happening every day in all 287 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: parts of the city. Witness the tens of thousands of 288 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: homeless people that she's lying about. All her numbers are fake. 289 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: Her numbers are fake, the crime numbers are fake. They 290 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: perfected the art of fake numbers, fake reports, getting the 291 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: media to regurgitate the fake nonsense. 292 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: And they figure. 293 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: They're a bulletproof. Nobody's going to run against them, or 294 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: if they run, nobody's gonna beat them. They got the 295 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: unions in the bag to provide the to provide the 296 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: money for their lying, stinking commercials. There get out the 297 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: vote operations. Be very careful when you have that many 298 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: people screaming for Spencer Pratt become mayor. 299 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: Don't dismiss this anymore. 300 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: I think we're generally in a period of dramatic change 301 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: across the country. Obviously in California, maybe the last domino 302 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: to fall, but it's gonna fall. People can't live this 303 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: way and they shouldn't live this way now. The only person, well, 304 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: one of the few people that has made any sense 305 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: and has really poured her heart and all her time 306 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: and energy into trying to make things better is the 307 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: La City councilwoman Tracy Park, who would make a great mayor, 308 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: by the way, and she's the councilwoman on the West side. Well, 309 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: I talked with her at the event. When we come back, 310 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to play our conversation and try to imagine, 311 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: like I tell you, imagine Rick Russa being the mayor. 312 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: Try to imagine somebody like Tracy Park being the mayor. 313 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 314 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 6: six forty. 315 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: Weistein is seven moist eighty six for Friday eight seven 316 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: seven moist eighty six or dial the numbers eight seven 317 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: seven sixty six four seven eight eighty six. Leave your 318 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: message all your righteous anger and fury. You can use 319 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: the talkback feature in the iHeart app and we'll record 320 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: everything and play back the best stuff coming up on Friday. 321 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: This morning, we recorded a number of interviews in the Palisades, 322 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt and Jeremy Paauer were hosting a rally called 323 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: they let Us Burn. 324 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: And it's hard to argue with it that the the. 325 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: What they proposed here is they meaning the government let 326 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: us the Palisades Park? 327 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: Why did they let us burn? 328 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: Everything they did would leave you to leave that that 329 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: title is accurate. That's the premise that they let us spurn. 330 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: They didn't put out the fire, and they intentionally decided 331 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: not to put out the fire. They kept the fire 332 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: department far away, and we're told to stand down, and 333 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: nothing worked anyway. 334 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: And all their reports that's supposed to explain all this 335 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: are fully their lies. 336 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: There's seven six rewrites of the fire departments after action report. 337 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: Now it turns out Karen Bass demanded changes, big cover up, 338 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: big lie. It's got to be busted wide open here. 339 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who know and they're afraid 340 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: of getting fired. This has to be busted wide open. Enough, 341 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: isn't enough. 342 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: Now I want to focus on a positive for a moment. 343 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: It's La City Council in Tracy Park. She just does 344 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: superhuman stuff trying to make people's lives better on the 345 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: West Side. She was at the rally and I spoke 346 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: with her. Play cut number nine. All right, we're here 347 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: at the councilwoman for the eleven district covering the Palace 348 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: sas Tracy Park, who's been on with us frequently. 349 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: Tracy, I've been. 350 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: Talking to people for an hour here and people are 351 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: still at the highest level of anger over everything. How 352 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: can after a year none of the major questions be 353 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: answered and every piece of news is another bombshell. How 354 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: nobody understands what's been going on and it's still going on. 355 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, John, it's a really good question. And I don't 356 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 7: know how to account for this. You know, I was 357 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 7: very very clear in the immediate aftermath of the fire 358 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 7: that the LAFD absolutely, under no circumstances, should be investigating itself. 359 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 7: I called for, and the council approved and outside independent inquiry. 360 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 7: That is one of several that are either underway or. 361 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: Have been completed. 362 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 7: But watching this information trickle out headline by headline, detailed 363 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 7: by detail, when we haven't had a full accounting and 364 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 7: reckoning of the events that occurred and didn't occur on 365 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 7: January seventh. In the lead up has compounded the anger 366 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 7: and the frustration. 367 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: When you see seven different versions of the report, and 368 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: we found out this morning it had been sent to 369 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: the Mayor's office, and the mayor's office wanted further refinements. 370 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: Well, nobody's going to believe anything. 371 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 7: Well, and there in lies the problem. Whether the revisions 372 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 7: or the changes that were made were intended to hide 373 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 7: or mislead, it doesn't even really matter. The perception of 374 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 7: it is that it wasn't accurate, and it wasn't transparent, 375 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 7: and we walk away from it wholly unsatisfying. So I 376 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 7: want to actually thank Chief more for his remarks yesterday 377 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 7: at Fire Commission acknowledging finally the mistakes that were made, 378 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 7: because really that is the first step in the accountability, 379 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 7: which is fixing the circumstances that allowed this to happen. 380 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: One thing I hear from talking to people, no one 381 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: can believe that every level of. 382 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: God rim it failed and it's continued to fail for 383 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: a year, and nobody wants to own up or explain anything. 384 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 7: Well, you know, very well, maybe the case that the 385 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 7: lawsuit is the only way that people are going to 386 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 7: get answers. And I've said this before, you know, the 387 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 7: consolidated complaint actually seems to be one of the most 388 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 7: comprehensive recitation of the events of that day. But a 389 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 7: crying shame that that's what it takes. I mean, the 390 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 7: reality is there is enough blame to go around. There 391 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 7: are layers of responsibility, and there are layers based on 392 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 7: decades of failure that lined up in a collision course 393 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 7: for the catastrophe on January seventh. 394 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it's hard. 395 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: To believe that everything went wrong and that everybody like 396 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: screwed up at the same time and continuously ever since. 397 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 2: It's just hard to fathom. And I'm telling you a lot. 398 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: Of people are wondering if there's some darker issue here 399 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: because you see the title of this event, they let 400 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: us Burn. 401 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 7: Well, you know, I understand the sentiment and the frustration 402 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 7: behind it. You know, literally, you know, you talk about 403 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 7: how did everything fail? Literally everything the evacuation routes, the 404 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 7: water system, the communications, the timeliness, literally catastrophic systems failure. 405 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 7: But it was decades of bad management and failure to 406 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 7: invest taxpayer dollars in adequate infrastructure and public safety that 407 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 7: we're going to be necessary to keep this or any 408 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 7: community safe. 409 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: The State Parks rep Park reps kicking out the LA 410 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: Fire Department at the hotspot where the fire reignited to 411 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: save the milk Vetch plan for being trampled. 412 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 7: You know, I don't even think the milk Vetch read 413 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 7: is still there. So I think there's a very very 414 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 7: important and painful lesson to be learned. These policies have 415 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 7: to be balanced against the potentially catastrophic outcomes like we 416 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 7: saw here. 417 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: Do you have many allies on the city Council to 418 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: help fix all this because most of the council is 419 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: very quiet at best. 420 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 7: I have been very grateful for the support that I 421 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 7: have had from a number of my colleagues over the 422 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 7: last year. But yes, as the news cycles shift, as 423 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 7: other crises and emergencies emerge, attention spans are short, and 424 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 7: you know, unfortunately for ninety nine percent of Los Angeles, 425 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 7: life has moved on, and my job as our local 426 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 7: council member who represents the Palisades and other communities impacted 427 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 7: by this is to make sure these stories stay in 428 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 7: the headlines and that government is held accountable. 429 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: You're going to run for re election, You're going to 430 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: keep at it. I am, I am. 431 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: My work here is not done. 432 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 7: The sense of responsibility and obligation that I feel to 433 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 7: help the Palisades community get further on their journey home. 434 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 7: I've got to see Venice through the Olympics, and the 435 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 7: incredible progress that we've made already on homelessness isn't finished. 436 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 4: I have more to. 437 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 7: Do, and I have more to do right here on 438 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 7: the West Side. 439 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on with us, Tracy. 440 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: Always, John so Soon. 441 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's made a lot of progress on almostness on 442 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: the West Side, but to other districts, no, they have not. 443 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: You know, when we come back, I'm gonna play a 444 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: clip from a guy named Josh Lederer who really got 445 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: life was just turned upside down, shook up. He's got 446 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: a wife and a kid, and the whole experience has 447 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: sent him into therapy and he talked at length on 448 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: how everyone let him down. 449 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: You had. 450 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: Tracy Park mentioned how the news cycle moved on and 451 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: implied that some of the council people became less interested. 452 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: What was really telling is when the ice raids happened 453 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: in downtown LA. And you saw how angry and animated 454 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: Karen Bass got because some illegal aliens were getting deported. 455 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean, she just lost it. So much emotion, so 456 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: much energy, so much anger. And she's getting illegal alien 457 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: activist groups and citing them to riot funded by taxpayers, 458 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: of course, more of those nonprofit organizations. And that's the 459 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: Karen Bass. And I don't understand why anybody would want 460 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: a woman who has turned her back and abandoned the 461 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: palisades filled with tens of thousands of taxpayers and families, 462 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: and she's got ice cold on that issue. But boy, 463 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: she sees some video online on TV of legal aliens 464 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: getting arrested, and she's back to her old cashtro roots. 465 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: She's full of fire and anger and vigor and screaming 466 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: and demanding two completely different Karen Basses. One you have 467 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: American citizens and taxpayers suffering a horrific tragedy, the other 468 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: a bunch of illegal aliens, and she's egging on the 469 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: taxpayer paid nonprofit groups who then started a riot. 470 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: Oh. 471 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: In fact, I'll tell you a big difference between the 472 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: illegal alien protesters and the people who are at the 473 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: rally today. The organization that put on the rally huge 474 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: difference in how they were treated by Karen Bass's la 475 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you when we come back. 476 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am 477 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 6: six forty. 478 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: Follow us to John Cobelt Radio on social media. 479 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: We're going to be posting or have posting stuff about 480 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: our trip to the Palisades today talking with the residents. 481 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: You could also subscribe on YouTube and see our videos. 482 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna be putting videos of all the interviews sometime today. 483 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com. Slash at John Cobelt's show. YouTube dot 484 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: com slash at John Cobelt's show. Let me play for 485 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: you now, this guy got to me. 486 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: His name is Josh Letterer, lost his home, his whole 487 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: life was upended. 488 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: He's got a wife and a child, and he feels 489 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: he was just devastated. He was holding a big sign, 490 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: completely let down by all the idiocy here in Los 491 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: Angeles and the government. So let's play cut number is 492 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: that cut number three? We're talking to a man here. 493 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: He's got a large vinyl banner. While he's holding they 494 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: let us burn written big bold black and red letters, 495 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: your name, Josh Letterer Josh, I've heard you talk to 496 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: some reporters here about how everybody in government let you down. 497 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: Talk about that. 498 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 4: Go through the list. 499 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 8: Let's talk about our fire department, the closest fire department 500 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 8: on the day the fires, when we got high wind alerts, 501 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 8: being forty five minutes away on training. They didn't get 502 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 8: to the fire until an hour after the fire started. 503 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 8: Talk about the fire commissioner not being in service because 504 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 8: of doing a fake bomb threat. 505 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: We can talk about our mayor being in Ghana and 506 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: not helping, they said. 507 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 8: Newsom said there were resources all over the state. I 508 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 8: was here for six hours that day. I didn't see anyone. 509 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 8: I didn't see one firefighter fighting the fire. There was 510 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 8: nobody helping us. 511 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 4: We were left to evacuate the elderly. There was nobody. 512 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 8: You think when there's a major disaster, there's gonna be 513 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 8: people to support you, especially when you have that much time, 514 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 8: and they didn't. 515 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: Do their jobs. Nobody did their jobs that day. 516 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: What did you lose? Did you lose your whole house. 517 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 8: Or I lost my life? My house is partially there. 518 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 8: I'm the only one on my block. I'm the only 519 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 8: one on my street, not just my block. I don't 520 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 8: want to say exactly where my house is, but I 521 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 8: stayed that day. 522 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: I prepared my house for the fire. 523 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 8: I prepared a few other houses for the fire on 524 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 8: Timescal and those were the only houses on Timescal. 525 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 4: Out of about one hundred houses, we kept. 526 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 8: About five of them and about three of the ones 527 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 8: we were working on. 528 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: What did you do? 529 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 8: We turned off the gas. We threw things in pools 530 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 8: that could have burned. We watered down the areas the 531 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 8: fire was coming from, any areas we thought could burn. 532 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 8: We took away vegetation or chairs that were close to 533 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 8: the house. 534 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: I mean we too. 535 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 8: We prevented the fires for several houses that day that 536 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 8: should have happened throughout the neighbor. 537 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: So you watered down these properties that it helped prevent 538 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: them from being burned. And then we hear from the 539 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: government that having a one hundred and seventeen million gallon 540 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: reservoir empty, the reservoir would have had no effect. 541 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: On fighting the fire had it been full. What do 542 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: you say to that? 543 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 8: Okay, so there are two reservoirs that were empty, right, 544 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 8: there was two reservoirs, And yeah, that's another part of 545 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 8: the incompetence. Here is the biggest part of the fire. 546 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 8: I was watching the fire that day from ten thirty on. 547 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 8: I had a very good few of the fire. We 548 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 8: had two planes trying to fight the fire that had 549 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 8: to travel very long distance to do their water drops. 550 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 8: If we had five planes that were able to go 551 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 8: to the reservoirs and pick up water, that would have 552 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 8: been able to extinguish the fire or at least stop 553 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 8: eighty percent of the fire. The big issue is when 554 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 8: the fire doubled back across the Mescal Canyon took out 555 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 8: the entire city. That happened at about three PM, within 556 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 8: the span of ten minutes when the wind changed. 557 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: They had four hours to fight the fire and to 558 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: get it out with air drops before the wind got 559 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: too bad, and. 560 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 8: The city didn't do it. The city wasn't prepared and 561 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 8: they didn't get They didn't protect us. 562 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: Talk about what your life's been like for the last year. 563 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: You have a family, You've moved a lot. Go through 564 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: those details. 565 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 8: I'm forty three. Last year was by far the most 566 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 8: difficult year of my life. We moved five times, we 567 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 8: evacuated from four different houses. 568 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 4: Dealing with our insurance company. 569 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 8: He won't give us any information dealing with banks that 570 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 8: slow down the process. It's just a I have three 571 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 8: jobs now, trying to deal with my insurance comp company 572 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 8: and then fix my house while I'm trying to support 573 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 8: my family that just went through this disaster. 574 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 4: It's everything just keeps piling up. 575 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's got to be so draining physically and emotionally. 576 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, as it if you felt like you're near 577 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: a breakdown at times. 578 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 4: All the time. 579 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 8: I've had forty three I've never seen therapists before this year. 580 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 8: I would love to send the city my therapy bill. 581 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 8: We all need a lot of support here. It's been 582 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 8: very difficult for us. 583 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: What's the thing that infuriates you most? All levels of 584 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: government failed us. You know, we found out recently that 585 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: the state Parks Reps kicked out the LA Fire Department 586 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: so they couldn't tamp down the lock Right fire exactly. 587 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, they could have put out the fire. 588 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 8: They were there two days after there were videos it 589 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 8: was still smoldering. I Mean, what bothers me is the 590 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 8: people now saying they did a good job and that 591 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 8: things are going well and they're helping. 592 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: Us, and they're not. Nobody helped us. 593 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 8: They screwed everything up and now they're acting like they're 594 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 8: doing a great job. They're not Mayor Pass, Governor Knewsom. 595 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 8: They're doing a terrible job. There's no help for us. 596 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 8: There was no help for us that day, and there's 597 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 8: been no help for us since then. They said they're 598 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 8: going to help wave fees, they're gonna help rebuild. I 599 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 8: mean you can see around here. About two months ago 600 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 8: it was one in twenty houses. Now it's about three 601 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 8: or four and twenty houses that are being rebuilt. 602 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: We're nowhere near we should be. And it's the fault 603 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 4: of the city. 604 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: What do you want done? Do you want fast? Do 605 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: some new? Some's going to be out in a year. 606 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: What are you looking for in government? To people? New 607 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: people are going to be. 608 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 8: Elected, Accountability, people who can do their jobs, not people 609 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 8: who are here to give us lip service and say 610 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 8: they're going to do a great job. There's two kinds 611 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 8: of people. There are people who do and there are 612 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 8: people that talk. We got a lot of talkers right now. 613 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 8: We got we need people who do, people who put 614 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 8: the right people in place to be prepared for disasters. 615 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 4: We're not prepared. 616 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 8: What's gonna happen when we've an earthquake. What's gonna happen 617 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 8: when we've another disaster. We're not prepared and we need 618 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 8: people who are prepared, people who are have been trained 619 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 8: to protect us from disasters. 620 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: All right, your name again, Josh Letterer, Josh Leederer, Josh, 621 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: thanks very much. 622 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: Are when we come back, we're gonna have Royal Oaks 623 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: on to talk about, Uh, take a break from the 624 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: fire for just a moment, because Robin Michelle Reiner's son 625 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: and killer Nick Reiner, was in court today and the 626 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: big story is his lawyer, quit Alan jack and Jackson 627 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: is a big name attorney who's defended celebrities like Harvey 628 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: Weinstein and Kevin Spacey, and he got out and he 629 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: won't explain why, says he's not allowed to explain why. 630 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: So we're going to have Royal Oaks on see what 631 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: he can figure out. And then we've got more interviews 632 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: to play for you from our attendance in the Palisades today. 633 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: They let us burn rally, including the former La County 634 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: Sheriff Alexi Viennaweva, who'll set some light on the Alta 635 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: Dina fiasco because that was another big botch up by 636 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: government in Altadena and. 637 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: We're also going to talk to. 638 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: A woman who went through the lengthy list of fallops 639 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: and she was aware of all of it as it 640 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: was happening. That's next. Hey, you've been listening to The 641 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: John Cobalt Show podcast. 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