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Speaker 1: and Out podcast. That's me, that's the show. That's where

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Speaker 1: we're at right now. Uh, it's Sunday Night. We just

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Speaker 1: finished Week two of the National Football League, Week three

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Speaker 1: the middle of September and we have multiple games to

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Speaker 1: go off now. It was today was really really entertaining

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Speaker 1: in that game, which I'm going to dive right into

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. Lamar Mahomes Hardball Andy Reid Hardball used

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Speaker 1: to work for Andy Reid with the Eagles. He was

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Speaker 1: They've had a little bit of a rival that the

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Speaker 1: Something I noticed in the Cowboys game that I gotta

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Speaker 1: give Jerry and company and McCarthy and the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: because I've given them a lot of heat. So I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm an equal opportunist. I give, you know, criticism, but

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Speaker 1: I also give praise and that they deserve standing ovation

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Speaker 1: would be probably strong, but they deserve a fist pound,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe high five. Uh. The rookie quarterbacks to day,

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Speaker 1: specifically the first and second overall pick did not farewell.

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Speaker 1: Uh did not farewell at all. And I have some

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the injury things that I talked about on

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Speaker 1: the Middlecoff mail back we're not going to do on

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Speaker 1: this Monday podcast, but we do it on Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: instagram you guys know the drill slide in also every Monday,

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Speaker 1: but tomorrow we're starting at four thirty at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: the Volumes Instagram as well. We will be live at

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Speaker 1: four thirty Pacific Standard time seven thirty East or so,

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Speaker 1: depending on where you are. You do the math, come

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Speaker 1: ask questions, hang out up until the game. We'll just

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Speaker 1: we'll be there for a while, b sen taking questions,

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Speaker 1: come hang. I highly recommended also the three Now podcast.

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Speaker 1: If you could subscribe, rate review, leave a review. Five

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Speaker 1: stars if you want, and uh, I greatly appreciate that,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to start with the Sunday night game,

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Speaker 1: and first and foremost, before I knew what the result

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Speaker 1: was gonna be, probably with ten minutes left in the game. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: Lamar did not play well in the first half. He

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Speaker 1: His team was kind of in shambles, right, they have

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Speaker 1: that they play kind of reckless, and he still does.

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Speaker 1: But I discounted this, and if you know, if you've

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Speaker 1: I bought one of his shirts, no or sweatshers, no

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Speaker 1: and I love whenever I see Lamar talk after wins

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Speaker 1: end of the day, in pro sports, you gotta have talent,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is a hundred thirty million dollar quarterback hunter

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Speaker 1: as terrible. Honestly, it's probably worse. They just have Clemson

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Speaker 1: in the pact. Twelve of these last four or five

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Speaker 1: years haven't had a top team but Clemson. You remove Clemson.

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Speaker 1: All the other teams are a joke. And Trevor kicked

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Speaker 1: her out. Trevor is an awesome prospect. Talk to a

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Speaker 1: friend in the league on the phone on Friday. He said,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in all his years, has been doing it

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Speaker 1: for over decades. The best player. He's every value. He's

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Speaker 1: an elite talent. But we know it's it's hard to

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Speaker 1: just take this talent at quarterback, then run the whole operation,

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Speaker 1: learn the offense, elevate good players around you. Then you've

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Speaker 1: got a factory. And you got a bad coach for

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Remired me a great pro head coach or

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Speaker 1: college at coach. Their defense is bad. Team just sucks.

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Speaker 1: It's really really difficult. Zach Wilson goes number two. His

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Speaker 1: team's awful, and then immediately the first you know in

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Speaker 1: training camp and then first week they lose like three

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Speaker 1: or four players, so they're immediate Their team is already

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Speaker 1: questionable in terms of how talented it is. You take

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Speaker 1: away Carl Losson, you take away back then like their

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Speaker 1: talent just diminishes fast. So then you go into every game.

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Speaker 1: Even Zack Wilson b YU, but definitely Trevor at Clemson,

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Speaker 1: they always went in with the advantage. They went, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're better Trevor. How many games were they never not

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Speaker 1: favored in his three years there? He wasn't used to

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Speaker 1: never be in goliath when they entered the field. Maybe

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Speaker 1: sometimes right if you factor in the Final four when

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Speaker 1: they would go against Alabama Ohio State, that's just another Goliath.

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Speaker 1: But Clemson didn't view themselves in that game at all

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Speaker 1: as anything less than an equal, even when they lost.

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Speaker 1: Right going into the game, they viewed were the better team,

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Speaker 1: as they should. It's not the case on Sundays. It's

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Speaker 1: really really, really hard. He didn't even throw for a

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty yards Trevor Zack Wilson through four picks.

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Speaker 1: Should we be shocked? He was playing Bill Belichick? Have

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Speaker 1: you ever heard of him? The greatest coach of all time?

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Speaker 1: I don't even necessarily hold today against Zach, but I

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Speaker 1: think both these guys the learning curve is traumatic. The

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Speaker 1: it's just very, very difficult. The expectations are outrageous. You

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Speaker 1: can disagree, and I have with Matt Nagy, but when

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Speaker 1: Dalton went down today and Fields went in, it did

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Speaker 1: look like a lot of things were moving fast. And

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Speaker 1: they were playing the Bengals. Trey Lance didn't even get

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Speaker 1: in the game today. Now they're playing Philly. It was

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Speaker 1: a tight, physical game. But I was like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if this kid is quite ready yet. We

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Speaker 1: forget I guess we don't. We talked about it a lot,

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Speaker 1: but Patrick Mahomes, I mean it was like really much

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Speaker 1: more like ninety six the way he got treated in

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Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. Get to sit for the entire year, learn,

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Speaker 1: take it all in, watch you know, approach every week

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Speaker 1: like the backup. Just kind of get a feel for

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Speaker 1: whatever other NFL players do. These guys getting thrown right in.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine even if you were really talented at

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Speaker 1: twenty one or twenty two years old, It's one thing

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Speaker 1: to be a position player. Michael Parsons right, or Jalen Waddle,

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Speaker 1: Davonte Smith, you name it all the position guys. A

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure. You're making a lot of money. Everyone

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Speaker 1: looks at you like the first pick, but you got

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Speaker 1: to just kind of blend in. You just kind of

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Speaker 1: get to be one of the dudes. You're usually not

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Speaker 1: a team captain, you're not even the leader in your

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Speaker 1: own position group. You just kind of got to blend in.

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Speaker 1: Now you're expected to make plays. But it's just an

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Speaker 1: easier feel when you're Zack Wilson or Trevor Lawrence and

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Speaker 1: you have to start on the worst team in the league.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's staring at you every All the fans are talking

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Speaker 1: about you, all the coaches are looking at you. The

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Speaker 1: other players are looking at your on your own team.

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Speaker 1: Every team you play, the other defenses are trying to

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Speaker 1: kill you. As someone who matured really kind of kicked

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Speaker 1: in in my thirties, i'd say my twenties, I can't

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Speaker 1: even can't even begin to comprehend how intense that would be.

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Speaker 1: I never saw a first round quarterback when I worked

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but I did see the pressure in

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Speaker 1: the intensity of it. I did see Derek Carr my

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Speaker 1: second year of Fresno State, come in. Coach Chill didn't

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Speaker 1: name him the starter, made him the backup, just didn't

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Speaker 1: think it was quite ready at eighteen and Derek disagreed.

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Speaker 1: I remember now I would if I sat down with Derek,

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Speaker 1: who blocked me on Twitter a long time ago because

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Speaker 1: I thought I was too negative about the Raiders, which

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Speaker 1: wasn't a total lie, but they were really terrible at

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Speaker 1: the time, I was probably tweeting negative things. I wonder

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Speaker 1: what Derek would say now about He basically got two

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Speaker 1: years because he was the backup, and then he got

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Speaker 1: to red shirt a second year. It is easier any

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Speaker 1: time you take a step up in life if you're

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Speaker 1: truly not ready, and definitely in football, when your team

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Speaker 1: around you isn't ready. If I put Trevor Lawrence on

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, it would look a lot better. If I

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Speaker 1: put Trevor Lawrence on the Colts, it would clearly look

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Speaker 1: a lot better. That's not the case. He's on the

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Speaker 1: shittiest team in the league, him or Zack Wilson, and

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Speaker 1: they're both just thrown to the Lions and they're getting

519
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Speaker 1: eaten alive, eating alive. But if they're able to mentally

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Speaker 1: handle this, and failure sometimes breaks people. It destroys people,

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Speaker 1: especially who when it's just over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: If they can overcome it and get to the other side,

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Speaker 1: and some of it's gonna be out of their control,

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Speaker 1: right who they draft, who they signed, it free just

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Speaker 1: improved the team. They will be better for it. But

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Speaker 1: when you go through the lowest of lows, and you

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Speaker 1: may stay there for a couple of years, it breaks people.

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Speaker 1: It shatters people's will, It really does. Like it's what

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Speaker 1: I gave you, Lamar a lot of credit about his

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Speaker 1: competitive character. Right, Well, he's always been competitive. He's he's

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Speaker 1: always won, so he's competing in games to try to win.

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Speaker 1: And they go to the playoffs and it's just it's natural, right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying those guys don't have it either.

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Speaker 1: You can't even tell. I mean, they're just getting molly

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Speaker 1: wopped every week. So I don't know, man. I think

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are in for a long year.

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, we'll have more on Tuesday. This is

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Speaker 1: a little Monday we try. We would do like minutes

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Speaker 1: recap some things I saw. We'll do this every Monday,

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Speaker 1: like I said Instagram, four thirty Monday before Monday Night

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Speaker 1: football four thirty Pacific Standard time, seven thirty Eastern at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoffs and stuff. Also the middlecoff mail back slide

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Speaker 1: up in those d ms. Have a great Monday, and

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Speaker 1: uh I'll either see you Tuesday, I'll see on Instagram

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Speaker 1: on Monday, Monday night, Monday afternoon for me. Talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Peace The Volume