1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: On the line with us. Now former Buffalo Bill's quarterback 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight or two thousand twelve seasons in the 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: National Football League, the nineteen eighty four Hinzman Trophy winner 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: from Boston College. Happy to have Doug Flute on the 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: line with us. Hello, Doug Flutie, John Murphy and Steve 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Tasker Upper in Buffalo. Thanks coming on with us. Hey, 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Johnny stay thanks. I'm down in Florida. Weather's a little nicer, 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: but we're getting ready to hit the bulk of this 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Corona thing too. It's it's on its way here. It 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: hasn't been bad here, but it's supposed to be bad 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: for the next two weeks. Well, you've you've kind of 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: geared up the Flute Foundation to battle coronavirus, especially the 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Flute Foundation for Autism, and you're providing support for families 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: who have an autistic child. I guess I tell us 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: what you have in mind there, Doug. Well, you know 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: a lot of families who are financially strapped anyway, and 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: then in this situation, families with autism. Um, you know, 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of other expenses incurred. So those in particitionally, 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I think them direct funding to them through true gift 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: cards and you know whether their true groceries every day 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: needs whatever to help them through this time period. The 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: other aspect of that is um you know, children with 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: autism thrive more on routine, and this definitely has disrupted 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: everyone's routine. So the state at home schooling is a 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: lot more difficult. So we're also supplying technical support so 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: they can continue their programs from home. There's all of 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: a number of other things. How prevalent is homeschooling when 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: the autism community Doug, I mean, I suppose it depends 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: on where they fall on the spectrum, but how you 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: know how many families, either by choice or or just 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: other circumstances are forced to either force to or would 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: rather educate their kids at home, particularly the ones who 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: are who have autism. Well, when we first started out, 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: a lot of families did it. A lot of families 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: would try. I mean, obviously it's very, very expensive. It 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: probably cost us sixty grand a year to have someone 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: working with Doug you for three four hours a day, 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: and that was when he was little. Then more programs 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: have been developed, more schooling is there, so it's not 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: as prevalent now, but a lot of people do have 41 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: one on one tutoring at home, you know, for a 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: few hours a week or on the side or whatever. 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: This has created a situation where the only way you 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: can do it is to home school yourself or have 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: the tech support to do it through their regular tutors 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: and teachers and you know that worked with them on 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: a regular basis, but do it through a laptop to 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: a tablet, which is even more difficult when you're talking 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: about children with all Has it been a big step 50 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: forward now that maybe the school more school systems are 51 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: ready ready to aomidating in two great autistic kids into 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: the regular mainstream system. Is that a much better place 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: that you're in now? Oh? No, no question. I mean 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: leaps and bounds where you were twenty years ago, ten 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: years ago, five years ago, No doubt. There's more support 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: and more opportunity there all over, So the programs that 57 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: continue to increase, it's it's it's at least there's a 58 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: at least there's something in place that we can work 59 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: with that when you come to a time period like 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: this and you have to adjust, at least you're just 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: adjusting and rather starting from scribe. Doug Flutey our guests 62 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: talking about the Flutey Foundation and what they're doing in 63 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: the coronavirus pandemic era to help families with autistic issues. 64 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: I did see where the flute Foundation launched a Facebook 65 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: live show twice a week trying to help out families. 66 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Tell us about that, if you can doubt, yeah, we 67 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: started doing that, getting out there so we can be 68 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: a little more interactive with those in need and those 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: that follow us and want to know what's going on 70 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: with the foundation and what's the next step, and and 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: just to be in touch and and you know everything. 72 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we've all learned our lesson that. 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: And look at Network TV right now that there are 74 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: other ways you can do reach people. Um, you know, 75 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: studios are shut down basically, but everybody's doing their broadcast 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: live from home, and it's a great little avenue to 77 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: be able to reach people. And I think I want 78 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: to also throw out that the Bills backers of Orlando 79 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: given us great donations as well as Power Foundation up 80 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: there in Buffalo have given donations to help us in 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: this effort to help support these families in this time. 82 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: And also in returning you've made it known today that 83 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: any donations you get today are gonna if people are 84 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: listening here, Buffalo Bills fans, the donations today will go 85 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: to Buffalo autism organizations and families. Is that right correct? 86 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: We'll go directly. Yeah. We've tried to do that from 87 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: day one. From from the areas that the money come, 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: then we try to put it right back out to 89 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: those areas. So it's there. Our donations today, we'll go 90 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: right back into the Buffalo area. This is a trying 91 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: time for everyone. You know, I give if you can, 92 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: if not, I it's completely understandable right now. And what's 93 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: going on, I mean there's there's people just trying to 94 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: worry about paying a bill to put food on the 95 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: table right now. Doug flew to our guests former Bills quarterback, 96 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: long time NFL quarterback. Hey, Doug, we haven't talked to 97 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: you since you were back in Buffalo. I think it 98 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: was before the at the Baltimore game right last second 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: week in December, December eighth. You got a really good response, 100 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: and I know you you met fans in the field 101 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: house and we're injurduced on the field. What was your 102 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: favorite part about that weekend? You spent the whole weekend here. 103 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: What did you think of that? It was absolutely amazing. 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: And I say this all the comic called Jim Kelly 105 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: this when we're all hand because I played three years 106 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: and I played twenty one years of professional football. I 107 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: spent three years in Buffalo and it was special to me. 108 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: But they treated me like it was Jim Kelly for 109 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: crying out loud it was. I was, yeah, it was. 110 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: It was like a big warm hug, I said. We 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: set up in an hour autograph fashion over at the 112 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: field house. I think got signed for two hours and 113 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: we had to cut the line off and people still 114 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: had all the flute flakes, memorabilion and all that, and 115 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: people wearing jerseys and you know, I'd come out, walked 116 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: out of the tunnel down by the field there in 117 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: pregame and just the interaction with the fan, it was. 118 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: It was amazing and well maybe one of my favorite 119 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: moments when I was there. Douggie had been diagnosed and 120 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 1: we were trying to get them schooling and get everything 121 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: straightened out. So my wife stayed in Boston the Dutch 122 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: and they would come up for games, come up on weekends. 123 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: We would see each other when we could, so I 124 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: was there by myself a lot. So I'd go to 125 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Uncle Joe's diner down the road and I mean, I 126 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: need two meals a day there sometimes three and yeah, 127 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: And so the people at Uncle Joe's knew that I 128 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: was in town and they were waiting for me to 129 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: swing by. So it was actually Saturday morning before the 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: field House saying i'd like made the people that I was. 131 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: I made them stop because I had had to stop 132 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: and just say hi, and they didn't get it, they 133 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: didn't understand. And I went in and and actually three 134 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: people were in there that were working there twenty years ago. 135 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: And it was really cool because they started yelling at 136 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: me for not coming. You're always coming on Friday nights 137 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: and gets your turkey dinner and then a milkshake, and 138 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: you weren't here on Friday night. We expect you to 139 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: be here on Friday night. Why weren't you? So it 140 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: was it was pretty cool. It was really cool. Just 141 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: um also Dennis Depolo over Dilio Depolo's I just on 142 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: a wind side I had, I was free for dinner. 143 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: I want just swung by And again it was like 144 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: like I played in Buffalo forever and never left. Um 145 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: it's just um really special. They're really special. One of 146 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: the great things that happened while you were here and 147 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: everybody still talks about it, was the Jaguars game when 148 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: you in your bootlegg den for the wind. What were 149 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: do you have a couple not even a handful of 150 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: one or two memories that I mean, you played twenty 151 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: one years, You've got to have a laundry list of 152 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: great moments m plus winning you know, you won the 153 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: Heisman before you ever started your pro career. Give us 154 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: some highlights of your time here in Buffalo. What were 155 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: a handful of the memories that made it so special 156 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: on the field rather than just the people off it. Yeah, 157 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: on the field of that that bootleg, that drive, we 158 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: had no timeout, so that had to go sixty seventy 159 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: yards and under a minute with no timeouts and you're 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: running into the end zone. It's actually a bust at 161 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: play because it was a chuck with me and I 162 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: checked to the pitch and Thurman ran to dive, So 163 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: it actually worked a great bootleg. Look where he dove in. 164 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Everybody sucked in. We blocked the corner and I just 165 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: walked around the end. So that's a great moment. But 166 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: you know what was really special to me was very 167 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: first game. We're out in San Diego, and I was 168 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: just happy to make the roster and I'm you know, 169 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: fighting my tail off to get back into the NFL. 170 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: And Rob goes down late in the game, third quarter 171 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: whatever it was, and I go in and I wound 172 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: up throwing a couple of touchdown passes. They kick a 173 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: fifty five yard field goal that hits the cross bar 174 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: and goes over to take the lead with thirty seconds 175 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: like the game, and I hit maybe two or three passes. 176 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: We got interference call and we got him field goal ringks. 177 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: We missed the field goal, and we lose the game. 178 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: But that fourth quarter that let me know that, Okay, 179 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,239 Speaker 1: this is gonna happen. This is I'm gonna I'm comfortable, 180 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: it's just football again, and we're gonna have some fun 181 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: here in Buffale, because I knew then that I was 182 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: back to stay and that it was going to work 183 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: out well. Not for nothing, Doug, but I was in 184 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: the booth for CBS for that game, and not only 185 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: did you get in the game, but that was Ryan 186 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: Lee's first game as a pro, and their backup all 187 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks that we're in, that we're active in that 188 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: game got on the field, and I remember saying this 189 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: in the booth that when you got in and the 190 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: way you played, I said, you Rob Johnson, a big contract, 191 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf, number one overall pick. And I can't even 192 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: remember who Ryan Leaf's backup was. Was Charlie Whitehurst or 193 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: somebody like that, but I said, you know, Doug Flutie 194 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: was the best quarterback on the field today out of 195 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: the four guys the big contract and the number one 196 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: over all pick and the early in the season and stuff, 197 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: and you came in. He almost did get it done. 198 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: I will never I'll never forget that. It was the 199 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: only game I think I ever did in my career 200 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: where all four quarterbacks on the field got in the game, 201 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: uh uh, and had to play. And it was a 202 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: really probably a pretty close game there at the week 203 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: one of the of the season in nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, yeah, 204 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: and along those lines of that kind of a moment where, yeah, 205 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: the high price quarterbacks was supposed to be all this, 206 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: and we went to Indianapolis and I don't know, I 207 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: think it was Peyton Mannings rookie year. You know, Peyton 208 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: signs his big deal, and Roberts signed a huge deal 209 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: with Buffalo, and like I said before, I was happy 210 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: to be on the roster. Rob goes down early in 211 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: the game at Indie and I have a great day. 212 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: I have a really good day. We beat Indianapolis handily. 213 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't say anything, Pump, but in the 214 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: back of my mind, I was thinking exactly the exactly 215 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: that you know, the high price guys, blah blah blah 216 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: blah blah, and I had a good day. So I mean, 217 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: those are the things that motivates, and those are the 218 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: things that drive you on a daily basis. And there there, 219 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a thousand great moments. I mean or 220 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: in my you know, guys that you played with Eric 221 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: molds He's you know, so many big plays with Eric. 222 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: He and I had a great relationship on the field, 223 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: just understanding. He knew when the ball was coming. If 224 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: you were one of the one with Eric, I don't 225 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: care it was against leverage or not. Balls coming and 226 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: he would make a play on it. And I just 227 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: got off call. Yesterday was a bunch of the guys 228 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: and it was fun and Reminisce and Doug. I'm wonder 229 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: if you look back on your career twenty one years 230 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: playing football, twelve a dozen years in the NFL were 231 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: the three years in Buffalo. Maybe when you broke through 232 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: in the NFL you got a chance to start and 233 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: play and played out some pretty good teams. Were those 234 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: of the breakthrough years for you in your NFL career? 235 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: I'd really, I'd say so definitely. Um. I was labeled 236 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: as a backup for my first five years, and I 237 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: had some moments back with New England early on and 238 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: in the late eighties and all that, and then I 239 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: went to Canada free years and what it did was 240 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: reinstill the confidence and put the fund back in football 241 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 1: for me, and I started to learn to trust my 242 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: own judgment and be a little more hands on with 243 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: the game planning and be a part of it. And 244 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: so when I came to Buffalo, um, you know a 245 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: lot of question marks for in me in my head, 246 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: but I thought, if I'm gonna do this, if I'm 247 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: going to crash and burn, I'm gonna crash and burn 248 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: my way. And I just I think Joe Pendry did 249 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: a great job as an offensive coordinator catering to what 250 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: I did well and put me in a position to 251 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: be successful, and you know, it would have been nice 252 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: to see you know, the you had had a really 253 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: nice three year run there, but you know, you move 254 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: on because Rob was seen as the future quarterback of 255 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: the franchise from the day I got there. He was 256 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: seen as the future. And the frustrating part was that 257 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: I played another five years after I left there, so 258 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: you know, we could have had a good eight year 259 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: run and or you know, maybe okay, at the end, 260 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: at least a six year run. And that's the frustrating 261 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: part to me is that you know, throughout my NFL 262 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: career that I never really had where you got the 263 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: keys to the car and it's your team and you go, well, 264 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: in the current situation, we're staying here in the midst 265 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: of a pandemic, and you know, there's all kinds of 266 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: scenarios that we're trying to foresee and everybody's got these 267 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, what ifs and maybes and all this kind 268 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: of stuff. Do you think you could play or what 269 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: would it be like for you to maybe play in 270 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: an NFL game if the stadium was empty, because that's 271 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: what they're you know, kind of talking about that that 272 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: would kind of change things all the way around, wouldn't well, 273 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: it changes communication on the field. Snap count becomes a 274 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: factor again. You can actually draw people off side and 275 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: do some of the things you sho do audibilizing, and 276 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: people could yell from the sideline, you know, if you're 277 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: in a wrong formation, you can get corrections from the 278 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, think of a practice field, you know, the 279 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: stuff that gets yelled out across the practice field. That's 280 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: what it would feel like. Or when you had that 281 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: scrimmage for scrimmage of training camp and you're in the stadium, 282 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean empty stadium. I think players now, players today 283 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: are a little different. They do get juiced up by 284 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: the crowd and the crowd noise in the music playing 285 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: in the stadium and all that. I used to think, 286 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: you know that that was kind of irrelevant to me, 287 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: that you were just so locked in and fired up. 288 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: But the emotional level of the game at times, I'm 289 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: sure would be completely different watching it on TV. The address. 290 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: You even get an adrenaline rush off seeing the fans, 291 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, watching it on TV. So you know, the 292 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: game would still be the game. It could still get done, 293 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: but it would definitely be different. We're on the line 294 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: with Doug Flutey, who has got his flute Foundation doing 295 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: some work for coronavirus relief for families with autism in 296 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: the family. Hey, Doug, we're a week away from the 297 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. On I asked you. You know you were 298 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: affiliated with the Notre Dame broadcast on Network TV for 299 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: a while. Can I ask you about a couple of 300 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: Notre Dame prospects in this draft? I get more. I'm 301 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: more interested in Chase Claypool, the big wide receiver for 302 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: the fighting Irish Shaw. How do you think his skills 303 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: will translate into the NFL. I think he'll be great. 304 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: I think he'll translate very well. He's a big body guy, 305 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: great leaping ability to phenomenal hands. His big issue, I 306 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: mean his big issue was immaturity his freshman sophomore years 307 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: and getting issues off the field, and then coming into 308 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: his last year complete turnaround the kidney. He matured. He 309 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: was driven and from the first game of the year, 310 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: the first ball he caught, he felt like he was 311 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: going to score every time he touched the ball, breaking tackles, fighting, 312 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: his mental toughness just really came through in this past year. 313 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: It was amazing to see it seriously, every time he 314 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: touched the ball, it looked like he was going to 315 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: break every tackle. It didn't matter how many guys were 316 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: on the field. So I think the maturity level came 317 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: around the athleticism, the abilities on the field that's always 318 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: been there for Chase. And I think he's going to 319 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: really I think he'll be very good, and I think 320 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: he'll improve as he does because he played with a 321 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: quarterback that didn't throw the ball well early on, and 322 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: then when Ian Book took over, it was more of 323 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: an efficient passing game, and so finally he and the 324 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: other receivers started to improve. And then you add that 325 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: with his maturity level improving, I think he's I think 326 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of room for improvement as well 327 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: from where he is right now. Ask you about one 328 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: more prospect. Cole came at the big tight end who 329 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: missed the early part of the season with an injury. 330 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: He only played one year. I think it not a 331 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: namer started one year. What kind of an NFL player 332 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: would he be. He's he's got the size, he's got 333 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: the speed of the tight end position. You're like, I 334 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: think he'll translate, Well, he's not a fire at tight end. 335 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: But he runs very well. Yeah, there's there's some freaky 336 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: tight ends are just I don't I don't know what 337 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: his time in the forty is. But Cole blocks extremely well. 338 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: He catches the ball. He's a route runner. He's a 339 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: multi athlete in baseball. He's a pitcher. He was in 340 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: ninety two ninety tread our fastball. He's there closer in baseball. 341 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: So he was going over to baseball, closing a game 342 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: and then coming over to spring practice. He really he's 343 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: a guy that doesn't stay injured. He had a nasty 344 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: ankle sprain and they were anticipating a four to six 345 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: week thing. He played the following week. He he just 346 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: has a knack for pain tolerance, I guess and fight. 347 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: He fought to a few different injuries at different times, 348 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: so his toughness is there as well. And he's one 349 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: of those guys when we would have him in production meetings, 350 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: i'd love talking to. So I I think he'd be 351 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: very existent successful. Um, Kenny be as dominated as a 352 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: guy like Gronk was. I don't know Kelsey those guys, 353 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: he's he's maybe a smidge's not as athletic, but he's 354 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: real close, real close. What can you tell us about 355 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: maybe some of the defensive lineman. There's a two of them. 356 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: Start with Julian Aquara. What kind of athlete is he 357 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: and what is his skill set? Julian, he was like 358 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: when you looked at him when he was young, he 359 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: was an undersized defense things like this guy's gonna get 360 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna run the ball down his throat. And he 361 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: was all finesse and he's got moves, he's got hands, 362 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: he's got quickness. And as a youngster, you get in 363 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: there on third down and rushed the pass there like 364 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: nobody's business, and all of a sudden you realized a 365 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: year later, you know he's moving people. He's a lot 366 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: more physically strong and and thrown together than his body 367 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: type would indicate. The coaches raped, no one could block them. 368 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean they had all NFL caliber offensive linemen and 369 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: Notre Dame and nobody could block them. He had great 370 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: pass rush moves, quick around the edge, using his hands well, 371 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: and he's much more physical than you would think looking 372 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: at him. Hey, Doug, just give us a recap. If 373 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: folks want to donate to the Flute Foundation, especially families 374 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: with someone affected, by autism, Where do they go? How 375 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: can they help? And I think you pointed out the 376 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: money donates and eight comes right back here to agencies 377 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, right, yes, correct, So Flute Foundation dot org 378 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: is where you can go to make donations. And like 379 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: I said, right now, we're in a position where there's 380 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: a lot of families that have been disrupted, that maybe 381 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: financially strapped, that can't even pay the bills or put 382 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: food on the table, and we're reaching out to those 383 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: families with autism in those situations and helping them out 384 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: as well. There's technology to help the kids at home. 385 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: So reaching out to the Flute Foundation dot or for 386 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: your donations if you can, If you can help, we 387 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks Doug Chapping the Dog, Thank you great 388 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: talking with you.