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Speaker 1: What is up everybody? John Middlecock, That would be myself

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Speaker 1: three and Out podcast. That would be what you are

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Speaker 1: listening to. Welcome to the show. If anyone's new, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Hi again for those of you that have been listening

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Speaker 1: for a while, we're here Super Bowl Sunday. Well not

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Speaker 1: really because I'm recording this on a Thursday afternoon and

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Speaker 1: you might be listening on a Friday or Saturday. But

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Speaker 1: the Super bowls here. The Chiefs given three points as

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Speaker 1: of the latest according to my book Bookie. Literally my bookie.

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Speaker 1: Uh is where I'm looking right now, minus three and

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Speaker 1: big Super Bowl. We're gonna dive into something. I just

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Speaker 1: I watched the a f C Championship Game. One thing

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Speaker 1: you realize is football is coming to an end. One.

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Speaker 1: I hate the month of February. Uh, there's nothing on

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just I'm not really that into the NBA

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Speaker 1: right now. No baseball. I like golf, but there's no

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Speaker 1: golf on during the week. At night, there's nothing to watch, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch and I've flipping around channels. I've

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Speaker 1: watched everything on Netflix and Amazon Prime, at least all

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Speaker 1: the good stuff. Um. I'm not a big reader. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't love admitting to that. I wish I was

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Speaker 1: do it through my ears, through the audio book. And

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Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of the the a f

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Speaker 1: C Championship game from two thousand eighteen, and it got

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Speaker 1: me thinking, I'm gonna hit on that over the top. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just some mahomes Brady stuff. They'll dive in a little

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Speaker 1: bit to the game. I mean everyone's doing like game breakdown.

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Speaker 1: I just a couple of little thoughts I have for

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Speaker 1: the game. Ultimately, I'm gonna pick the chiefs. Uh wentz

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Speaker 1: on the block reports Eagles are. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a journalist getting the exact wording of the trade. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure many of you have seen it. Uh people are calling,

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Speaker 1: of course they are. Uh, just show a Watson situation.

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Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about it. I just don't know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if if he gets traded, it's gonna take a team

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Speaker 1: that that has some conas because they'll be setting themselves

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Speaker 1: back a little bit while they're also acquiring a big

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Speaker 1: time quarterback. You guys know the drill. If you listen

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Speaker 1: up into those direct messages and leave yourself a question.

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Speaker 1: I have like a hundred questions. We will bang some

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Speaker 1: of those out, uh at the end of the at

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Speaker 1: the end of the show, but I want to start

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Speaker 1: with this. Watching the two thousand eighteen a f C

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Speaker 1: Championship game, obviously, I mean that was the peak of

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Speaker 1: the Patriots dynasty. They'd already won five Super Bowls. They

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Speaker 1: They were a powerhouse. Brady was an absolute legend. Belichick

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Speaker 1: and in that game it was a ward zone. Belichick

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores, which we all agree dramatically better than Matt Patricia.

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Speaker 1: Their defense was excellent. I mean they would just go

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and they were peppering, let me repeat,

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Speaker 1: peppering Mahomes. And I'm watching this game, thinking, God, this

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Speaker 1: if this guy was a stock now we all knew it,

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Speaker 1: Then I heard Veach on with Peter King telling this story.

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Speaker 1: star players, I would do everything possible to play like

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Speaker 1: some of the Patriot game. Dump it off, slow down

426
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Speaker 1: the game, play defense, try to keep the thing in

427
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Speaker 1: like the low twenties. Don't get into a shootout with

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Speaker 1: these guys. That is not the way to win. And

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Speaker 1: Tampa has. Tampa is not the little engine that could that,

430
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Speaker 1: added Brady. They have blue chip players. Mike Evans is

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Speaker 1: a star. Godwin is gonna get a ton of money

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Speaker 1: this offseason. Antonio Brown before he went nuts, was like,

433
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Speaker 1: you know, on a path right to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Devin White star JPP has played like a star this year.

435
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Speaker 1: Vita Via one of the best three and fifty pound

436
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Speaker 1: players in the league in the last like twenty years.

437
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Speaker 1: Like they have excellent players, so they can play talent wise,

438
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Speaker 1: This is not a Mitch mismatch. But when I look

439
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Speaker 1: at the teams, like the Chiefs have a clear identity.

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00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: They know how to win. They've been doing it now

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Speaker 1: for three straight years. Tim Bay did not win until

442
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: Tom showed up. Plain simple period, point blank, end of story. Now,

443
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: their defense was good and their offense could score point

444
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 1: But when you watch them, like a ton of penalties,

445
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: little loosey goosey a little bit. That's Bruce Arians. There's

446
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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians is a little loosey goosey. So to me,

447
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: can they just play a little more buttoned up? Now

448
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Speaker 1: that's probably asking a lot, but just talent. If they

449
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Speaker 1: can play buttoned up, they can play with these guys

450
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Speaker 1: because they do have the guys. You know, Tom can

451
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Speaker 1: play buttoned up, but can the guys around him? Can

452
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff? You'd say, historically that's not really their deal.

453
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Speaker 1: And to me, Campa City is pretty simple. If their

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Speaker 1: offense is dialed in, no matter how good Tampa's defense is,

455
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Speaker 1: they're winning. If Mahomes has an a game, he wins.

456
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Speaker 1: It's just that simple. When Mahomes is good, his team's

457
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Speaker 1: gonna win. He's the best player on this field. And

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Speaker 1: think about that, the greatest quarterback ever to play in

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Speaker 1: the game is playing in the Super Bowl and he's

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Speaker 1: not even the best player on the field Patrickiss. So

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Speaker 1: if he plays well, the Chiefs are gonna win, and

462
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Speaker 1: probably pretty comfortably big reason the Niners were in the league.

463
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Speaker 1: Mahomes is playing like ship. Last year, Mahomes was awful

464
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Speaker 1: in that Super Bowl until he flipped a switch in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and that's what great layers do. But

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Speaker 1: I'd say before that fourth quarter stretch where he threw

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Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, I bet if he was sitting

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Speaker 1: here right here with me, I'd say, how what would

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Speaker 1: you give your grade up until that wasp throw. I

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Speaker 1: guess what he'd say, like C minus D plus. It

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Speaker 1: was not good. Now, a big part of that was

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Speaker 1: the Niners defense, But he was off. He was just

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Speaker 1: overthrowing guys. He was just not crisp. But if he

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Speaker 1: plays well, the Chiefs are winning, just period, point blank,

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Speaker 1: end of story. Yeah. I mean, and I think we

476
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Speaker 1: know the deal. If you can get a pass rush

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Speaker 1: on Tom unlike Patrick. Like Patrick can move around, Tom can't.

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Speaker 1: So if you can get him, and it's happened in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl before, where you go up the gut

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Speaker 1: and you get the the interior pressure, it throws him off.

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Speaker 1: And they gave Chris Jones all this money. He's one

482
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Speaker 1: of the best inside pass rushers in the league. Uh,

483
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Speaker 1: you just gotta write him. And if he has a

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Speaker 1: big game like Tampa's in trouble to me, Tampa Chiefs

485
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Speaker 1: can win this game with like their B game. I

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Speaker 1: Tampa can't. So I think there's a lot more pressure

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Speaker 1: on Tampa to play crisp and the Niners did last

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Speaker 1: year and and they still blew it because they couldn't

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Speaker 1: do it for four quarters. Chiefs don't. The Chiefs to me,

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00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: that's where they have parallels to some of those Warriors teams.

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Speaker 1: Once Kevin Durant showed up. They don't need to play

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Speaker 1: their A game to win to win championships, let alone

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Speaker 1: games like that. They could win a Super Bowl. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Tampa was off, the Chiefs can win Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: like with a B minus game. Tampa's on, Chief's probably

496
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Speaker 1: gotta be like B plus, but they can win with

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Speaker 1: their B plus. Their margin for air is just much.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Whider, their guys are just used to

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Speaker 1: playing in these games. They're just they have a bunch

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Speaker 1: of champions on their team and the Bucks don't. That's

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Speaker 1: why I'm going with Kansas City minus three Andy Reid

502
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Speaker 1: Mahomes back to back Super Bowl champions. Let's dive into

503
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and I'm gonna look at this. I'm gonna

504
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Speaker 1: try to look at it very very simplistically. Is that

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, a quarterback, is the most important asset a

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Speaker 1: team can have in terms of their players. Right, we

507
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Speaker 1: all know that. And when you factor in Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: how much the Eagles spent for that asset? Right? They

509
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Speaker 1: traded all these picks to get up to draft him.

510
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Speaker 1: Then they double down and they paid them all this money.

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Speaker 1: So they if you draft capital, they've used financial capital.

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Speaker 1: They've invested a lot. They've taken this asset and they've

513
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Speaker 1: just pumped resources. Whoo whoo, whoo, whoo whoop. And the

514
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: r O I was not great this year, and really

515
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, given that he was hurt,

516
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: has not been ideal. But this year was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: His play was awful. He's not getting along with people

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Speaker 1: you can get along with, you know. His coach just

519
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Speaker 1: a problem. So I think they have to ask themselves

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Speaker 1: two things. If I'm Howie Roseman, I'm Jeffrey Lury. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I really the new coach how much

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Speaker 1: he factors in, but he should if you're running a

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Speaker 1: high level organization, he should have an opinion number one.

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Speaker 1: And this is why you hired this guy. Potentially, can

525
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Speaker 1: we fix him? Right? We've invested all this money, is

526
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Speaker 1: it spilled milk. Is it over or can our new coach?

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Speaker 1: Can we get more talent around him? Can we fix

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Speaker 1: this player? Is he a fixable player? Because he's our

529
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: asset right now now? We could be open to getting

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Speaker 1: rid of him, for sure, that would be just you'd

531
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: be you know, negligent, you'd be just dumb, not to

532
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: entertain everything. But we have him. He's on our team,

533
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Speaker 1: he's under contract with the Philadelphia Eagles. Can we get

534
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Speaker 1: him back to what he wants was three or four

535
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: years ago? Do we believe we can? That? To me

536
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: is the number one question you have to ask yourself now.

537
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: Can we get his value back up? Because if he

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Speaker 1: gets his value back up, then he's valuable to us

539
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: because he plays the position he plays. We want him

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Speaker 1: on this team. If his values up, that means he's good.

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Speaker 1: That means we want him. Just that simple. Do we

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Speaker 1: believe if you just use it one to ten scale,

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Speaker 1: right if Mahomes, Rogers, Brady, whatever, top quarterbacks or ten

544
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Speaker 1: out of ten, we've seen Mahomes have flashes of like

545
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Speaker 1: eight or nine. Right now, he's at like a two.

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Speaker 1: The problem is we're paying him like a ten, but

547
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: his play, his locker room stuff he's like a two

548
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: or three disaster. Can we just get him back to

549
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: like a seven or eight? Because if we can, then

550
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: he's worse keeping. Only they truly know how they feel

551
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: about that, And if they're entertaining calls, then I think

552
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: there's a chance they already know the answer to one.

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00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: They believe whether they're right or wrong, and they would

554
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Speaker 1: know this once they trade him. We don't believe we

555
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: can fix them, so too, if I am gonna entertain

556
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Speaker 1: trading him, I have to ask myself, this is it over?

557
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: Because if I can't fix him, do I believe someone

558
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: else can? Because I don't want to deal him like

559
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: that would just mean I don't want to deal with

560
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Speaker 1: him anymore, because if I'm gonna trade him, I am

561
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: basically acknowledging we don't believe we can fix them, and

562
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: we don't really like him around here anymore. Because if

563
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: I do trade him to the Niners, to the Saints,

564
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: you know, to the Colts, I have to come to

565
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Speaker 1: grips with. He might be good. He might go from

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Speaker 1: that two or three back to a seven or eight. Hell,

567
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: even at nine, I have to come to grips with

568
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: once he leaves me, he might be good again. Am

569
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: I cool with that? Am I cool with just drawing

570
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: a line in the sand? Like listen, you know when

571
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Speaker 1: someone gets a divorce and you go, you go, like

572
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: James or Bill, you're leaving her. She's so hot, she's

573
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Speaker 1: got a great job, she got money, she's a great

574
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Speaker 1: mom my, wife loves her. What are you doing? And

575
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Speaker 1: he's like, I'm telling you, John, I can't stand her.

576
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: You're like, well, I listen, you're the one sleeping with

577
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Speaker 1: her every night, right you only truly you spend every

578
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: night and spend every day around her. You know better,

579
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: because listen, she's gonna go on the open market. She's

580
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: gonna find another husband, and he's gonna look good on

581
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: Instagram pictures, probably Mary a rich guy. You could look bad.

582
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: You might not be able to rebound, you might not

583
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: find a better wife than her. You might lose this transaction,

584
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: at least on paper. Are you cool with that? And

585
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: he might just go, I can't do it anymore. I

586
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: have to get a divorce, just like the Eagles might

587
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: be saying, we can't do Carson Wentzon. We are over

588
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. But you have to acknowledge that when you

589
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: trade him to the Colts. Let's say the Saints get involved,

590
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: the Diners, whoever. I'm just I haven't seen teams interested.

591
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm just these are pretty basic teams that would be interested.

592
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: If he goes to these places, there's a chance he

593
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: kicks ass and takes names that would make you look bad.

594
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: You have to just be come to grips with that fact,

595
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: because I know, having lived in Philadelphia, it would get ugly.

596
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: People be piste off, especially if you can't you know,

597
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: if Jalen Hurts is just a guy, or you can't

598
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: draft another guy, because if you're willing to trade him,

599
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: like if you get a divorce, she's single, then she

600
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: can go day whoever she wants. You trade him, especially

601
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Speaker 1: to a good coach like Nick Serriani, he Ain, Kyle Shannahannis,

602
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: shan Right, those guys if they got their hands on them.

603
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: And and maybe it's over with Carson Wentz. Maybe he's

604
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: just too entitled, too many bad habits, He's never gonna

605
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: be good. I don't know. I don't have the answer.

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00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: I I could justify trading for him if I was

607
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: a GM, and there's part of me that like, I

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00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't touch the guy. I'm out on Carson Wentz, I'm

609
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: like on the fence, I don't. I don't really, I'd

610
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: have to get way more information from the information I

611
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: have probably be out on him, but like I'm a

612
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: sucker for talent and his ability. His physical attributes are elite.

613
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: There's a reason I pay Sean Payton and Kyle Shanahan

614
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: ten plus million dollars a year coach the guy up. Now,

615
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: if he is such a locker room cancer, like you

616
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: can't get along with his teammates, I'm out on that.

617
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: With a quarterback, I don't do that. We can do

618
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: other positions, but not quarterback. I need my quarterback to

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Speaker 1: be the galvanizing force in the locker room, especially when

620
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Speaker 1: he makes all that money. And so to meet Carson Wentz,

621
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Speaker 1: I would lean I'd be out on so. I understand

622
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: what the Eagles doing it, but I would also be very,

623
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: very nervous. I would like to send him to a

624
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: bad team because I would like it to be ugly.

625
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: I would not want to put him in a situation,

626
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, to kick ass. But like as we see

627
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, like he could kind of dictate some of

628
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: that stuff. What if he says I refused to show

629
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: up or who knows. I mean, I would doubt that.

630
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how much leverg he has. But why

631
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: would a bad team trade for Maybe they would just

632
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: take a flyer on. I don't know, but so to me,

633
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: you just have to The Eagles have to come to

634
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: grips with can we fix them? And if you can't,

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Speaker 1: are we cool with it just being over? Are we

636
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Speaker 1: just done with this guy? You know when you hate

637
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: someone or just can't stand someone so much that like

638
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: the moment you see them, you just you get that

639
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: feeling in your body. You're like, I think that's what

640
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: McVeigh happened to Golf and McVeigh with from McVeigh, not

641
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: necessarily Golf. If the Eagles are at that point, then

642
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: I think you gotta trade them because there was no

643
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: fixing it. If I was Sirianni, I'd want a shot.

644
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: I want a year with him because, like like I said, that,

645
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: every one was acting like the job was bad. If

646
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: you fix WinCE, you got a chance to have to

647
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: actually have the job to be pretty good. If you

648
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: can't and you trade him and then he's good and

649
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: Jalen looks terrible, you might have some problems Okay, let's

650
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: dive into Shaun Watson. It's something I've been thinking a

651
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: lot about, right because teams, and I think you could

652
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: use the NBA as an example of this. Two superstar

653
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: players have been traded over the last twelve months, James

654
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: Harden and Anthony Davis. What did both of those players

655
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: have in common with the team they ended up on

656
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: because they got traded for a ton of picks, both

657
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: of them historic amount of picks. Both of them went

658
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: to teams that were ready to win immediately. One had

659
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Lebron James, the other had Kevin Durant. It would have

660
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: made zero sense for the Sacramento Kings to trade all

661
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: their picks and all their good players for James Harden

662
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: because they are good now and with James, with nobody,

663
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: they would have been bad then. So if you get

664
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: a trade for James Harden, or you're gonna trade for

665
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, you need a team around him, and in

666
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: basketball that means one other star player or two. There's

667
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: a reason terrible teams don't usually trade for star players.

668
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. So if I'm gonna trade

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson and I'm the Miami Dolphins or I'm

670
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: or the Miami don't will get into the MINA and Dolphins.

671
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: A second, the New York Jets. The New York Jets

672
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: have a terrible roster, absolutely awful roster. So if I

673
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: trade Sam Donald and get like a second, I trade

674
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: three ones and two twos for Deshaun Watson, my team

675
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: is still terrible. It just has Deshaun Watson. Then all

676
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: the assets that I would have had to get good

677
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: I no longer have now. Obviously it doesn't take as

678
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: much as it would cost to get Deshaun Watson to

679
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: get Khalil Mack, Jalen Ramsey or Jamal Adams. But think

680
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: about that. Jamal Adams and Jalen Ramsey, the last two

681
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: star players traded for two ones and a two. What

682
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: do they both have in common? One went to Seattle

683
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: and one went to the Ramps. Both teams, rightful or wrong,

684
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: view themselves as like a player away, and both teams

685
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs immediately with those guys, they were

686
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: willing to mortgage the future because they were playoff ready.

687
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: The Bears a little bit bold, but they immediately made

688
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: the playoffs with Khalil Mack because they had a really

689
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: good team around him, and he was became their best player.

690
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: But if I'm the Jets, it doesn't make any sense

691
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: to pay everything for the Shann Watson my team stinks

692
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: it would basically be the exact same situation as he

693
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: was just in with the Houston Texans. Now, if I

694
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Speaker 1: am let's say, the Miami Dolphins, yes, I would be

695
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: very interested because my team in theory is equipped to

696
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: win right now. So could I trade three ones and

697
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: two twos to get to Shan Watson? Does that give

698
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: me a hands to compete in the a f C. Yes,

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00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: I think you could justify that, and I think it's

700
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: easier than to pivot, like, yeah, we missed on TWA,

701
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: but no one would care ifter Shawn Watson. That would

702
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: probably be the one team that could that could justify it.

703
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: There's no way, like I would say the Colts could too. One.

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00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think Ballard would do it, But to

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00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: the Texans aren't trading him within the division. They're not

706
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: gonna trade the best player they've ever had humor obviously,

707
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: DeAndre to the Indianapolis Colts. No chance doesn't make any sense.

708
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: The forty Niners, for example, do have a lot of

709
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: question marks. They have a ton of free agents, they

710
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: have a ton of moving parts. The team that went

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl is not going to be the

712
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: team that they feel in two twenty one. A ton

713
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: of those starting players are gonna be gone. So I

714
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: think the problem for the Watson situation, even if I

715
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: know they're saying they're not going to trade them, but

716
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: even if they are open trading him, it's hard to

717
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: know what the hell is going on the agent, the team.

718
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't leave anybody. I just know it's a complete

719
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: shit show and nothing will shock me. I think easter

720
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: Be's a clown. I think Deshawn's agent constantly, you know,

721
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: leaking stuff is not helping anything. I think that's clown activity.

722
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: I think it's all clown activity. Deshan just stay quiet

723
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: and just let the chaos happen and then figure it out.

724
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: But they could trade them, they could keep I don't know.

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00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm open to anything, but teams are comin. Teams are

726
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: gonna be interested. They're not gonna trade them with the Colts.

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00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: The Dolphins should be interested because they are a team

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00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: that could like compete to win the Super Bowl next

729
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: year if they got them now, they would have to

730
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: nail some free agents because they need some help at

731
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and they wouldn't have any draft picks. The

732
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: Jets don't make any sense if I'm the Jets like

733
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, so I just have Deshaun Watson, nothing else

734
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: and no picks. So what am I basically the Houston Texans.

735
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: It just I don't That doesn't add up. It makes

736
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: no sense to me. I'd rather just trade donald, draft

737
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback, use all my picks to get other players,

738
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: and try to build up a team. I'm I'm I'm

739
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: a year away from being a year away from maybe

740
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: being a year away. The Miami Dolphins go, we were

741
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: a game away from the playoffs. To me, the forty

742
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: nine is like, you know, we got some holes. We

743
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: got some major holes. Now quarterbacks number one. But if

744
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: we trade all of our picks, how are we gonna

745
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: get good. We're actually closer to being up against the

746
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: cap than you know a lot of these teams that

747
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: just went six wins, So we got some problems. I

748
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: don't think Sean fixed that. The Saints have no money.

749
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: Now they're equipped to do it. You could say they

750
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: might make some sense, but they got some cap situation

751
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: that they got to figure out. The Bears. You know,

752
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: if I'm the owner and you're basically a one year

753
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: deal for my GM and my coach, like I do,

754
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: I really want to let them do that. Now at

755
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I got Deshaun Watson on

756
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: my team moving forward, Who cares? I think they could

757
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: probably talk themselves into it. But any of these bad teams, like, no,

758
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense for the Jets. And I

759
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: see these reports like he'd waves no trade clause to

760
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: the Jets. So he's just gonna go from one bad

761
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: franchise to another that hasn't been no picks and no talent.

762
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: What are we doing? So the thing with the NBA

763
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: when they trade for the equivalent of Deshaun Watson. It

764
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: happens a lot in the NFL with position players, who

765
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: typically trades their first round picks for players. The Bills

766
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: step on Dicks a f C championship game, Seattle Boom

767
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: wins the division. Jalen Ramsey Boom Rams are good Bears,

768
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: Khlil mac Boom in the playoffs, they were like they

769
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: were close where they were already a playoff team. Usually

770
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: don't see you know who just uh, I'll just use

771
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: a hypothetical here, who who would be a good player

772
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: that could be on the on the move. Let's just say,

773
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: like Julio Jones. You know who just traded for Julio

774
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: Jones The Carolina Panthers. You'd be like, what, well, why

775
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense? You know who just traded

776
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: a first round pick for Julio Jones The Jets. We'd

777
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: be like, what, that's kind of stupid, right that? That

778
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: doesn't that doesn't quite to add up to me. What

779
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: if the Eagles traded like a first round pick for

780
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: a player, You'd be like, what, You're not a player? Away?

781
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: Good teams do? Teams are drafting the twenties, and if

782
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm trading to Seawn Watson, I don't want picks in

783
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: the twenties, So I I just don't see the fit.

784
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: It doesn't it to me. It doesn't. It's a very

785
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: complicated situation. That's why I don't think we're gonna get

786
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: an answer anytime soon. Okay, mail bag time at John

787
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the the Instagram handle, you guys, know, the

788
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: drill slide up in those d m s. And if

789
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't answer a question on the show. Sometimes I

790
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: just answer directly to you, so don't don't get mad

791
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: if you don't hear a question. There's a lot of questions.

792
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: I can't get to them all. Sometimes I'll just interact

793
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: and we'll just start texting, so it would be the

794
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: same thing, honestly. Sometimes, uh, all right, I know you

795
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: want to hear your answer on the show. I try

796
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: to get to them all. It's just difficult sometimes. Got

797
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: a lot of d ms, all men all asking me

798
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: football questions. Not many babes up in there. Long time listener,

799
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: first time in the mail bag from Jack. The whole

800
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: narrative going around the Chiefs replacement left tackles Mike Ramers

801
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: is gonna have his lunch a by JPP and Shack Barrett,

802
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: combined with being on the losing end of von Miller's

803
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl m v P and JPP acting like he

804
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: didn't know who he was in a press conference this week.

805
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: How big is the chip on his shoulder gonna be

806
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: coming into Sunday. He's actually started most of the year

807
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: at right tackle for Jeff, not Jeff Schwartz, Mitchell Schwartz.

808
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: I said Jeff because I was texting with Jeff earlier.

809
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: You just said Schwartz, So I'm not you got it right,

810
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: Jack and played pretty well. I love the pod Go Chiefs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I I'm with you. Like he's been the

812
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: starting right tackle. To me, the bigger question is Eric

813
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: Fisher being out so you've got a new left tackle.

814
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't think your right tackle is as big of

815
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: an issue. And to me, there's not as much of

816
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder when you're backup, when you're

817
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: a rotational backup, like the swing tackle, it's not about

818
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder. It's about going to execute

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00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: and playing well. You know, Tom Brady is a chip

820
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: on his shoulder because he's he got passed up and

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00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: he's an elite player to be at hip on your

822
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: shoulder when you are a backup and you get the

823
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: opportunity to start, like I, I don't know if that's

824
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: always the right mindset. I don't necessarily think he will,

825
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: like JPP is a better player than him. Now, that

826
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: doesn't mean, like you're in the NFL, you can block anybody.

827
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: Even if you're an average backup tackle. You don't give

828
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: up a sack like every play. You still couldn't shut

829
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: anyone out, so I don't. I don't think it's necessarily

830
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: a chip. I think it's about going out there, playing well,

831
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: playing within the offense, doing what you're told, um, not

832
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: getting mahomes hit. To me, the chip is more. I

833
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: don't know if that works with offensive lineman because it's more.

834
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's a position where you get

835
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: to really play with the chip, not not a tackle.

836
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: Maybe it's center or guard where you're kind of in

837
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: the mud and the muck every play, but a tackle.

838
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: It's it's weird. It's a very very physical position, but

839
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: it's also like you're kind of on an island. You're

840
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: blocking these guys. It's raining. You gotta be careful with

841
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: your feet. You don't want to slip. It's it's actually

842
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: a pretty cerebral position. I love the podcast. Listen while

843
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: I work out question for you. I'm a huge Lion

844
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: fan and unfortunately have been my entire life. Everyone has

845
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: been trashing the Lions lately, but I'm actually pretty happy

846
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: with the moves they made. I was hesitant about the

847
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: head coach, but then hearing they brought an Aaron Glenn

848
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: as the d C Lynn, who is as long as

849
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: he isn't calling time outs, defense decent offensive coordinator. They

850
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: also got Due Staley from the Eagles. Their front office.

851
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: They bring in a bright guy in homes, John Dorsey,

852
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: to help him out. Agree, John Dorsey, nice little higher.

853
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: Just listen to you down the trade on the Lions

854
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: to you down the trade on the Lions side, saying

855
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: they took too late first rounders over a first from

856
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: the Panthers. You and I both know an extra pick

857
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: this year isn't turning them around. I believe they're going

858
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: to break the rest of the team down this year

859
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: and get rid of all Bob Quinn contracts and start rebuilding.

860
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this? I would agree they're

861
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of everyone and they're gonna bottom out.

862
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: So my point is on value. They took less value

863
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: than the eighth pick. So if both those picks are five,

864
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: they did not get the same value. Now you can

865
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: turn the eighth pick in to pick one. A team

866
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: could trade up for a quarterback. All of a sudden,

867
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: you got twenty one plus next year's first rounder. Like,

868
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: you can turn it into different stuff. You don't have

869
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: to use the eighth pick. It's like I can buy

870
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: a home. If I buy a home for a million dollars,

871
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: but really that house is worth two million dollars. I

872
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: never have to move into that home. I can sell it.

873
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: And you say, John, someone has to be willing to

874
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: trade for pick eight. Yeah, someone has to be willing

875
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: to buy buy home for that much money. But if

876
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: I know that I can flip it, that I'm in

877
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: pretty good shape. Now it's risky. There's risk involved in anything.

878
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: So I was just talking about the value. But I

879
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: hear you. I understand they're gonna try to suck this year.

880
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: That's why they gave MotorCity Dan a six year contract.

881
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: So why I think they're cool with taking Jared Goff

882
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: to just kind of take the bullets for them. So

883
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: I hear you. Eventually, though, the Lions are gonna have

884
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: the draft good players. So all these picks. You see

885
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: it with the Jets, You see it with the Jags. Uh,

886
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: you see it with the Dolphins, like you gotta nail

887
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: the right players. Look at the Dolphins they missed. They

888
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: took to instead of Herbert, that's wrong. So eventually, whatever

889
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: pick you have, whether it's the fifth pick, whether it's

890
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: pick your pick's gonna be up, and you're gonna have

891
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: to decide be see, you know, on the best five

892
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: guys on the board, you're either gonna get it right

893
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: or you getting it wrong. So eventually the Lions are

894
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: just gonna have to pick good players and then Dan

895
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Campbell is gonna have to be a good coach, big

896
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: fan of your of your golf picks. Who are you

897
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: liking waste management this week? I actually I bet way

898
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: too much on golf. I probably minimum a bet like

899
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: a hunter buck sometimes about like three a week, and

900
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: every once in a while you get it right and

901
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: if they pay great. Unlike football, where if I like

902
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: bet the Chiefs to win, right, I bet a hundred,

903
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: I actually have to bet a hundred and ten to

904
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: win a hundred. In golf, if you pick a winner,

905
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: now it's really hard. But I got a bunch of

906
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: guys Scottie Scheffler, Brendan Steele, JB. Holmes, who's not good,

907
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: Bubba Watson. Like Bubba Watson, I put fifty dollars on

908
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: at forty one. If he wins like a two thousand dollars.

909
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: Now it's very you're basically picking one guy against the field.

910
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I believe this to my chorus, someone

911
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: who's gambled since I went to Indian casinos when I

912
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: was in high school, so two thousand one two two

913
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: to play blackjack. Started sports gambling in college. So I

914
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about gambling, they don't actually

915
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: do it. I love to gamble. Now I have to

916
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: be careful because you know what, you've been gambling a

917
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: long time and you start making a little more money.

918
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: Like a hundred dollar bet doesn't do that much for me.

919
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: So like betting a hundred dollars on the Super Bowl sucks,

920
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't do that. I mean I bet fiftellars

921
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl when I was in two thousand seven,

922
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: when I was in college. I'm not acting like I

923
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of money. I mean that was all

924
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: the money I had. But like I like to get

925
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: a little juice out of my bets. That's a great

926
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: part about golf. I can sprinkle. I can put two

927
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in my account sprinkle bets, and if I

928
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: do hit on one of them, they pay like grand

929
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: three grand. Right now, it's very difficult to pick the

930
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: guy for the majors. Is a little easier because you

931
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: can just pick a star and like I bet a

932
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: hundred dollars on Dustin Johnson to win the Masters one

933
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: of thousand dollars. So that's that's the fun part about golf,

934
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: the highs you get over the potential wins. Were football

935
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: easier to bet, but you basically just win your money.

936
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: And it's not like what am I gonna do bet

937
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars on games? Like I'm not a degenerate,

938
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: but I'd say to really get my juices flowing, you know,

939
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: A hundred all bets not doing much for me. So

940
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: I gotta get to like five dred dollars, and all

941
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you start betting four or five games,

942
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: you lose them all. You're out a couple of grand

943
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: that's net income, you know. I'm just like, damn, it's

944
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: we all know. So I went Scottie Scheffler, Bubba Watson,

945
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: Max Homa, Brent and steal JB. Holmes. I think are

946
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: my bets this week. I also dabbled, like I said,

947
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: a little on Rob Gronkowski for Super Bowl or first touchdown.

948
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: But see that that bet, I think it's fifty bucks,

949
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: pay seven d I like huge returns, so it's the

950
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: way I invest in the stock market. I would rather

951
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: if I have ten thousand dollars and I'm an invest

952
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: in the stock market on one stock, I would much

953
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: rather better on a cheaper stock, you know which thirty

954
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: under thirty bucks. Knowing that if that company, because I

955
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: bet in things I believe in, can double triple, it's

956
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: easier for that thing to go to the moon where

957
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: it's like Netflix is right now or whatever, is that

958
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: thing ever gonna go to It might, but it's gonna

959
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: take a while where it's easier for me to find

960
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: a stock at six dollars like I have in some

961
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: of my weed stocks, and that thing all of a

962
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: sudden you look up, you know, a year later it's

963
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: at forty or fifty. Make your money go five six,

964
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: seven X. I like taking big swings. I'm not saying

965
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm not Warren Buffett here. It's not always the right approach.

966
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: But every once in a while, like does last week,

967
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: you peek in your brokerage account, you go oho, take

968
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: big swings. Sometimes you hit a grand slam. Got a

969
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: trade scenario for you Niners. Trade for both Julio and

970
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, for Deebo Jimmy. This year's two's or maybe

971
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: next year's once. That could make the Niners pretty scary

972
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: and offense. Is that crazy? Would the Niners want Julio

973
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan? Yes, let's look at from the Falcons angle.

974
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: Let's say they draft a quarterback and they want a

975
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: red shirt him. Jimmy gives them a bridge. Don't hate that, Debo,

976
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: good young player. A little bit of a red flag

977
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: gets hurt a lot, hurting college, hurting the pros. Debo's

978
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: stud when healthy gets hurt a lot. So but he

979
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: got a little value. Okay, this year's too. You know

980
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: their two is relatively high. That's probably not enough for

981
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I would say this year's two and next

982
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: year's one that was probably what it would cost. So

983
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: you get Matt Ryan, you get Julio. The money also

984
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: doesn't work, so this is like a kind of a

985
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: fake trade. You might be onto something, but the problem

986
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: those two guys make a ton of money and the

987
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: Niners don't have much cap space. Jets fan, I assume

988
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: you have NFL context. What do you think the Jets

989
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: will do in the off season, Whether it's keeping Donald

990
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: and trading down or drafting a quarterback and building around

991
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: or even trading for to Shawn and speeding the rebuild.

992
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: I know they've been a dumpster fire lately, but Joe Douglas,

993
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: Robert Sala, Michael Flour make me really optimistic. I would

994
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: agree as you should be. What the move probably is,

995
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: trade Sam Donald. Let's say for a second draft, a

996
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: quarterback in the top three, take another sweet position player

997
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: with your other first round pick, and use the second

998
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: round picks and just start building. Just start building brick

999
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: by brick and just build that mother up with the

1000
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: young quarterback and get going from there. Or you can

1001
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: just use the third pick, trade it to another team,

1002
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: give Sam Donald another year, use all these picks you

1003
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: get from maybe trading back five or six spots, you

1004
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: have multiple first round picks in the next couple of years,

1005
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: and just build the thing around Sam. You could try

1006
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: that out too. Sam might be good at Michael Floor's offense.

1007
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: The best part about the Jets they got some options

1008
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: because the bar is so low. That's the thing with

1009
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, like they're viewing the playoffs next year, so

1010
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: that they're they're margin for error on what they do

1011
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: with two in the pick is much higher because they're

1012
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: way better than you guys. Were you guys? Like if

1013
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: next year you went to seven wins and I had

1014
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: all these good young players, I think you'd feel pretty

1015
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: good about it. I got that nobody cares work harder,

1016
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: and I instagrammed it and everyone keeps asking me, where'd

1017
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: you get that sweatshirt from? I don't know, this little

1018
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: place they call Amazon dot Com. Uh, they used to

1019
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: have the CEO named Jeff Bezos. Then you just stepped down.

1020
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: They sell everything. So if I my nobody cares work harder,

1021
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: I got it from Amazon for like one bucks. My

1022
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: question to you is, in regard to the Texans and

1023
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: de Sean, say they come to the realization it's time

1024
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: to move on. All this is uh proverbial list of

1025
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: preference for Watson his bullshit, wouldn't you say? Short of

1026
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: temper Gruden offering something ungodly like five first, it really

1027
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: simply comes down to does DeShawn want to play for

1028
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: the Jets or not? Because that's the only package they'll

1029
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: entertain with Miami coming in the ballpark of them in

1030
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: regard to trade compensation, but less likely because they today

1031
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: seemed to be committed to him. Like I said, Gruden

1032
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: could and There was a report out earlier this week

1033
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: and I talked about it on my YouTube channel, John Middlecoff.

1034
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 1: Just go the guy that wrote that report I've just seen.

1035
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: I've been following the Raiders and been associated with them. Now,

1036
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: I used to work on a radio station that had

1037
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: the Raiders, you know, five six years ago in the Bay.

1038
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: And that guy, that guy wrote that report because the

1039
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: Raiders are thinking it. He basically is the equivalent of

1040
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: working for the Raiders. Anything he writes is coming from

1041
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders. So that report means the Raiders are thinking

1042
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: about trading for the Shaun Watson so Gruden I would

1043
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: take Gruden's four first rounders. Now, like I said, I

1044
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: would not do that deal. If I'm the Raiders, would

1045
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: I just use first rounders on getting defensive help? My

1046
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: offense is good. Derek Carr played well, that doesn't make

1047
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: any sense. And Dave Tepper like you ain't a player away,

1048
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: Like if they would have got Matt Stafford, I don't

1049
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: think Panthers would have been any good. So they just

1050
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: don't make any sense. He's basically just going from the

1051
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: Texans to the Jets. He's basically just going from the

1052
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: number four media market to the number one media market

1053
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: the same team. Awful, no picks. It doesn't make it

1054
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: doesn't add up. Uh. The Dolphins are the one team

1055
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: that I would entertain because they got picks and they

1056
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: could justify they're a player away. But the Raiders that

1057
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: report the Raiders are thinking about it because what he

1058
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: writes comes from the Raiders. He just writes what they think,

1059
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: so John Gruden, which doesn't shock us, right, I mean

1060
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: John Gruden. Of course he's thinking about doing this, even

1061
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: though it's kind of stupid. But I would just roll

1062
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: with Derek huge Cowboy fan. Should the Cowboys pull the

1063
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: trigger and signed Dac to a long term contract or

1064
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 1: be concerned based on the outcome of the other contracts

1065
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: from his draft class? Goffin Wentz. How does this happen

1066
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: with those contracts affect other organizations willingness to pay their

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00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: quarterback or doesn't That's a good question. I would say

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00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: probably not, because if you have a good quarterback like

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00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, you don't hesitate. I think Josh Allen is

1070
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna get a huge extension. But I think Josh Allen

1071
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: is a good example. It's Josh Mahomes we just know

1072
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: now is a star, he's elite. Is Josh Allen gonna

1073
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: be elite every year? Or is it just a one

1074
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: year thing? Is he gonna be that good next year?

1075
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a hell of a question. I

1076
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: don't think any of us know, right, it's a million

1077
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: dollar question. Like Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, you know those

1078
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: guys are stars, goffin Wentz. We thought we're in. They've

1079
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: been a disaster. One guy got bens, the other guy

1080
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: get traded. The other guy might get traded too. I'd

1081
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: say Dak Prescott is a more consistent human being than

1082
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. People love him right, more talented than Jared Goff.

1083
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: He's a better athlete, But like those guys, Carson just

1084
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: became a bad player. Goff's limited talent. Wise, Doc is

1085
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: never gonna be Aaron Rodgers. He's never gonna be Russell Wilson.

1086
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 1: He's never gonna be Patrick Mahomes. He doesn't have Josh

1087
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: Allen's talent. So you're basically paying to get him to

1088
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: sign a long term extension. It would cost you know,

1089
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: hundred thirty let's even just say, on the cheap side,

1090
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: hundred fifteen million, dollars. You're paying a premium for a

1091
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: guy that's a B and Dak's good. Like, if the

1092
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: team was good, you can win with Dak. But once

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00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 1: he starts making thirty five the thirty thirty five million

1094
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: or whatever and all that guaranteed money, you're you're like,

1095
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: how do you add other players? I'm in a tough

1096
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: spot on Dak me personally because I'm a fan of

1097
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: his game, but I think he's more like a twenty

1098
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: three million dollar quarterback. Part of what makes Derek car

1099
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: so valuable. He makes twenty million. If Jimmy Garoppolo had

1100
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: just played like he did in two thousand nineteen again

1101
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty, he'd be like one of the

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00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: best deals in sports. Problem is he gets hurt. When

1103
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: you make twenty million and you're like a top twelve quarterback,

1104
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: you're in great shape. When you're like the ninth quarterback

1105
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: and you make thirty three million, we got problems. Aaron

1106
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: Rodgers makes thirty five million, He's elite, say with Russell Wilson, elite,

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00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Sam with Mahomes elite. Hell Brady was one of the

1108
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league this year, made twenty five

1109
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: how much you make really, especially with the cap. You know,

1110
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: reports are I've been saying that the whole time it

1111
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: was never gonna be a hundred seventy five million dollars.

1112
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: Reports are it's gonna between a hundred and five. But

1113
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: if I pay a guy thirty five million dollars, you

1114
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: do the math. That's what like, Well, if you're an

1115
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: eight percent of my cap and you're an elite player,

1116
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: no issue. If you're just kind of average. The other

1117
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: thing with Dak is he is coming off a major injury.

1118
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: So is he gonna be healthy right off the bat?

1119
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: Is it gonna take a mate games? They get going

1120
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: like there's some risk involved with just his health. Now

1121
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, no, because the doctors and stuff. But still,

1122
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: I've been listening to the show for close to a year. Now,

1123
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Big Saints fan, do you think they go

1124
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: after someone other than Jamis or Tayson Taysom? Do you

1125
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: think they need to? Well, if Derek Carr is available,

1126
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: they should be all over Derek Carr. If Carson Wentz

1127
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: is available, they should be all over Carson Wentz. If

1128
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: to me, Matt, the Saints or the Falcons would never

1129
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: trade them. Matt Ryan Kirk Cousins. I would just rather

1130
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: have Jamis, But I think Derek Carr and I think

1131
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: that uh and Carson Wentz they should be sniffing around

1132
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: that that they should be sniffing around. I do think

1133
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: if you just rolled back with Jamis and Taysom, you

1134
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: can make the playoffs. So and I think if Jamis

1135
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: is smart, he just signs like a one year deal,

1136
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: you know, maybe like ten to fifteen million dollars once

1137
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: Drew Brees retires. It just tries to resurrect his value

1138
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: if they're not able to get one of those guys. So,

1139
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, one year starter deal, fifteen million, ten million, whatever.

1140
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: If you have a good year and they're good, and

1141
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: you lead him to the playoffs, and maybe you win

1142
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: a playoff game, all of a sudden, Shawn's gonna want you,

1143
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: then you're worth million dollars. But you gotta prove it.

1144
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: And I think Jamis is in a good spot that

1145
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: he goes these guys believe in me, the team is good.

1146
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: I can prove it here. That to me is a

1147
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: fallback plan. But you gotta know before free agency, because

1148
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: there are other teams that are so desperate for quarterbacks

1149
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: that Washington Chicago, who knows like I do, think people

1150
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: are gonna want James, which is crazy to say. Uh,

1151
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: big fan of the Pods. NFC West seems to land

1152
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: a lot of high profile guys through trades Hopkins, Ramsey's,

1153
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: Adams now Stafford, none of which went to the Nyers.

1154
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Got me thinking how funny would it be if Seattle

1155
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: traded Russ for Watson? Straight up? Niners fans would go nuts.

1156
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: Then I really started thinking about it. Would that be

1157
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: a sweet deal for both teams. Seattle gets an m

1158
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: v P caliberal quarterback who's younger and under contract. That

1159
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: might be the the way Houston can unload Watson and

1160
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: say face. Watson gets out, gets to play with d

1161
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: K and lock it under a player's coach like Carol.

1162
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: Only snag would be Russ had a no trade clause.

1163
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has no trade clause or not,

1164
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: but here's what I do know. If I was Russell Wilson,

1165
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: if I was Russell Wilson's agent, if I was Russell

1166
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: Wilson's friend, if I was anyone associated with Russell Wilson,

1167
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: the moment I got wind of that trade, I would say,

1168
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: no fucking way I refuse to play for the Houston Texas,

1169
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people would support Russell

1170
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: Wilson maybe like, wait, you're trading him the Texans after

1171
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: he Let's face it now, LB, Sherman, Earl, those guys

1172
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: were a big part of it too. But Russell has

1173
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: helped shape the relevancy of a franchise in Seattle. He

1174
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: has made them box office and sustain their run. You

1175
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: can't trade him the Texans. To me, just look at

1176
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: what the Lions did. If you were going to trade him,

1177
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: which they're not, you have to work with him. Under

1178
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: no circumstances. Could Seattle trade him to the Texans to

1179
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: get away with it, because I think he'd refused to

1180
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: show up and he honestly, I'd support him on that.

1181
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: That would be bullshit. Now I'm with you, like that'd

1182
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: be a pretty sweet move for Seattle, like extend their window,

1183
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: get a younger quarterback. You're right, Houston would say, face,

1184
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: Why would Russell Wilson want to go work with Dave

1185
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: Culley and nickis Sarria. I just I just don't see it.

1186
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: Do you think Zach Taylor is a quality NFL coach?

1187
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: Being a Bengals fan, it's been incredibly frustrating to see

1188
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: us lose those one score games consistently. If he has

1189
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,479
Speaker 1: another losing season, do you think he'll get another shot

1190
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty two. Yeah, that's a hell of

1191
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: a question. You know, I'd be lying if I said

1192
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: I watched that much Bengal football. Their roster stinks, they

1193
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: don't have many good players. But whenever I followed pac

1194
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: Man Jones on Instagram after games, and he's a he's

1195
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: he's pretty funny, Like he goes on these just rants

1196
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: on stories and instagrams talking an unbelievable amount of shit

1197
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: about the Bengals. But about Zach Taylor in the coaching staff,

1198
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: and I think he's probably right. But let's say instead

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01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: of winning two or three games, would they have won

1200
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: six or seven with a good coach? Maybe? Is Zach

1201
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: Taylor a really good coach? Probably not, if I want

1202
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: to defend Zach Taylor, But like, his team's terrible, his

1203
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: offensive line's atrocious, his defensive talents not very good. His

1204
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver A. J. Green got hurt last year. This year,

1205
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have that much to work with now.

1206
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon is good. Tee Higgins is pretty good. Burrow

1207
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: was really good until he got hurt. I would say,

1208
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: I would lean history would show us Zach Taylor's probably

1209
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: just a guy. Here's your problem though, and I listen,

1210
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to talk about your franchise, but I

1211
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: think even you'll acknowledge this. People are not gonna want

1212
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: to go to the Bengals. They don't pay that much.

1213
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: They're just like when they hit a home run on

1214
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis, like they kind of got lucky. Look who

1215
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: you know. They don't typically get Marvin Lewis's that franchise

1216
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: most of my life has been pretty embarras. They're more

1217
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: likely to get Zach Taylor's and Freddy Kitchens and those

1218
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: types then Marvin Lewis. So is it possible to win there?

1219
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: Maybe not? Right, It takes a pretty special guy. They

1220
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: landed Carson Palmer. The best thing you have going for

1221
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: you is Joe Burrow. That guy looks like he's got

1222
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: worst cases like Tony Romo. Problem is he's got a

1223
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: major injury. Now, you probably see more of them than

1224
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: I do, But whenever I see him on these zooms

1225
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: and doing these interviews, seems like he's in great spirits,

1226
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: so he doesn't seem like a guy that's worried about

1227
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: like not being able to come back, which is good.

1228
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: If Joe Burrow is great this year, even if that

1229
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: leads to Zach Taylor getting fired, maybe I'm gonna change

1230
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: my own point. Maybe that job is a lot more enticing.

1231
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 1: But is Mike Brown gonna pay eight nine million dollars

1232
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: to get a top offensive coach? Because if I was

1233
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: a good offensive coach, maybe Eric Banamy in a year

1234
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: goes to coach Joe Burrow there Because if Joe Burrow

1235
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: is good, the job is good, right, The job once

1236
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, who never text me back, by the way,

1237
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: but in fairness, I hadn't text him forever, and like

1238
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: I text them asking for something. Probably my bad busy

1239
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: week two. But Joe Burrow is good. The jobs is

1240
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: not terrible. But yeah, is he a good coach? I

1241
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: would lean, you know. But I'm also not watching every snap.

1242
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: But their team is pretty undisciplined and not very good.

1243
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: Big fan of the pod, been listening. I'm a lifelong

1244
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks fan, and it seems to me that they're

1245
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 1: wasting Russell Wilson's career. Trading two picks for a DV

1246
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: who can't cover and forcing an anequated run first offense

1247
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: on him has brought the ceiling to the team down

1248
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: in my eyes. What do you think they can do

1249
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: to get back to legitimate contenders. I'm pretty sure they

1250
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: just hired multiple coaches, but their offensive coordinator from the Ramps.

1251
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: I think you guys look at a run first scheme

1252
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: as a bad thing, like ideally, you got my homes

1253
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: and you can just chucking around the yard. To me,

1254
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: there is like back to back NFC West teams went

1255
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, right, the Rams and then the Niners.

1256
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: Do you know what both teams were run first schemes

1257
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: now they're running games? Were both The Niners were the

1258
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: number one rushing team I think in the league in nineteen.

1259
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with running the ball. You can't just

1260
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: throw go routes to d K every play or throw

1261
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Speaker 1: those like crossing routes you know, to lock it to

1262
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: get them wide open on the play action. Nothing wrong

1263
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: with running the ball. I think Pete Carroll has a

1264
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: heart on because in fairness, like he has seen the

1265
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: Rams and the forty Niners the last couple of years. Really,

1266
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: the Rams have been good for four years. The Niners

1267
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: have been competitive now with him for a couple of years.

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01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: The Niners actually beat him the year they got Nick

1269
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: Bosa in December. Like, I think he sees that running

1270
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: scheme and that's what he wants to do. That's what

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01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: he wants, the Shanahan run game. And I don't mean

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01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean Mike that what what the Packers did with

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01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, what they did with Jared Goffolo, they did

1274
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo, what they did with Ryan tanney Hill.

1275
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: And it takes pressure off, you know when you do that.

1276
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was in a run based scheme this year.

1277
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: He threw forty eight touchdowns. You can meld the two together.

1278
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: I actually think Russell, if they embrace this scheme, the

1279
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: shanahaner offense, honestly, we might look up in two years

1280
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: and every single person is running this offense. Uh. I

1281
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: don't hate it. I think they could be. I don't

1282
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: know anything about this coach. I don't have to google

1283
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: his name, but the Rams guys that pretty clear what

1284
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna implement. That that could be pretty nasty with Russell,

1285
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: and you guys have already. You guys always kind of

1286
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: did some of that zone running scheme, especially Tom Cable.

1287
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: I think you guys make too big of a like,

1288
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: you guys are having successful Russell, like, it's working. You

1289
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: guys win every year. You go to the playoffs every year.

1290
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: It works. You want a playoff last year? Obviously you

1291
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: got beat this year, but you hosted a playoff game,

1292
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: like your your franchise is very successful unless your name

1293
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: is Brady or Mahomes, like, you don't really go to

1294
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Any chance you could do a take on

1295
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: Red's win at Farmers Insurance. Interested to hear what you

1296
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: make of the whole embedded ball thing. Thanks man, keep

1297
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: it up. I text with the player on the PGA

1298
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: Tour and he thought Patrick Reed didn't break any rules.

1299
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: He said, I would have done this. He played in

1300
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: the tournament. He said he did the same thing. The

1301
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: ruling golf if your ball is embedded means like, obviously,

1302
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: if it's soggy and breaks ground, you can drop it now.

1303
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: If me and you are just playing for twenty bucks,

1304
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: we never do that. We just hit it. But on

1305
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour they use a t They mark it

1306
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: and they check. Now he gets a bad rap because

1307
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: no one believes him and everyone thinks he's a cheater.

1308
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: But the tour player told me who literally was at

1309
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: Tory Pines and said the place was wet and soggy

1310
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: and everyone was doing it. I would have done the

1311
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: same thing. Now because it's Patrick Reid, everyone thinks he's

1312
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: a cheater. Something went viral this week because of the

1313
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: Phoenix Open Tiger Woods first year on PGA Tour. There

1314
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: was a big rock and he hit the rock and

1315
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: he's right behind it. He got the crowd and they

1316
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: all moved the rock because it was like it was

1317
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: like a non on. There's a specific term for it,

1318
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: Like it was a removable object. You could move it.

1319
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: If Patrick Reed had done the same thing, that people

1320
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: would claim he was like Bernie made off. So listen,

1321
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 1: did he does he push the envelope? Yes? Did he cheat? There?

1322
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: It felt a little crazy. He did ask his playing partners.

1323
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: I think the hard part with golf, unlike football, is

1324
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: like in football, for example, I'm just playing the other team,

1325
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: So anything that is my benefit impact just me versus

1326
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: that team. In golf, whenever I pushed the envelope, and

1327
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: Patrick was in the league. It doesn't just influence the

1328
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: guy I'm playing with it, it it influences the entire uh

1329
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: field you are playing the field. That's why betting on golf,

1330
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: like I said, it's so hard. You've been on one guy.

1331
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: Even like a heavy favor like Dustin Johnson and the Masters,

1332
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: he still gotta beat a hundred and sixty two guys

1333
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: or hundred fifty whatever the amount of people they let

1334
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: into the field. And football, it's just me versus the

1335
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: other guy. So his playing partners might have been cool

1336
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: with it, but all these other guys weren't playing with

1337
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: them might not be. We're in football, like if you

1338
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: get a bad pass interference on you right in a game.

1339
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: The if if I'm Seattle and I get a bad

1340
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: p I call and I'm playing the Browns, the Niners

1341
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: don't give a ship that week, right, The Rams don't care.

1342
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: The Eagles aren't even paying attention. We're in golf. Everyone's

1343
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: paying attention. It's what makes the sport kind of unique.

1344
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: Did he push the envelope a little? Yeah, he did.

1345
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: Ask his playing partners. They said cool. He marked it.

1346
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: He picked it up fast, little sketchy, but as I

1347
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: was told from someone that was there, really wet and

1348
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: it was happening all over the place. Have a question

1349
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: for you. You said the first round picks that the

1350
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: Lions got are less valuable than the first round picks

1351
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: from this year. But if you're the Lions and you're

1352
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: gonna tank for a couple of years, maybe they prefer

1353
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: to have future assets so they can build a good team,

1354
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: and then with those future assets they can get a

1355
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: cheap young quarterback. Yeah. I mean, I've come to grips

1356
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: and I've admitted that for sure. My point more is

1357
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: that if the Rams are really good and good question, Antonio,

1358
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that the Rams are

1359
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: easily one of the favorites. And maybe I'm higher on

1360
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: Stafford than some of you guys listening and some of

1361
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: the people in the league that are the favorite. One

1362
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: of the favorites the Green Bay Tampo, right, depending on

1363
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: who the Saints get at quarterback in the NFC. And

1364
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: let's say they're in the NFC championship game. So they're

1365
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship Game even if they lose it,

1366
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: their picks twenty nine or thirty. So you traded Matt

1367
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: Stafford and next year you get picked twenty nine. And

1368
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: then let's say next year they get beat in the

1369
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: first round, so you get picked twenty one and twenty

1370
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: nine for Matt Stafford and you get Jared Goff, who

1371
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: is just not that good. That's where I struggle with. So, yeah,

1372
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: you're trying to suck. But then those picks aren't really

1373
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: that great, like Jamal Adams, Jalen Ramsey net probably better

1374
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: picks than those, but those guys are position players. Whatever,

1375
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm trading a quarterback to a team that was so

1376
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: desperate for their quarterback and desperate to get rid of

1377
01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. That's where you know. And and here listen,

1378
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: I can have a take. You can have a take

1379
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: at whatever the time the trade is, and and that's

1380
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: gonna be natural, right. A transaction happens. It doesn't even

1381
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: need to be a trade. I sell you a desk,

1382
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: a house, a car, whatever. The day I traded one

1383
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: of us, probably thinking God, I got that for I

1384
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: I got that for cheap. God I just swindled that dude.

1385
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: Well would have. Then a year later or two years later,

1386
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: that house you sold me for five grand that you

1387
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: thought was a dump, I flipped for one point to market,

1388
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: goes up, make some improvements. I actually won. Would have

1389
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: been a couple of years we look back, they draft

1390
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: a sweet quarterback because they sucked. They use some of

1391
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 1: those picks to either trade up or trade down and

1392
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: land a bunch of sweet players and the Rams don't win.

1393
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: That's always possible, Like we don't know the end result. Right?

1394
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: That That to me like we're we have our opinions,

1395
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: but a huge The only way humanly possible to judge

1396
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 1: the trade is what does the player do that you

1397
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: trade for? Actually do? Right? Jalen Ramsey stays elite and

1398
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: he's awesome. He helps the Rams win. Well, what do

1399
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: the Jags then use those picks on. Well, in a

1400
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: couple of years will be like, well, they drafted the

1401
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 1: defensive end from l s U and this year they

1402
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: used it on Jalen Waddle and in three years those

1403
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: guys have both made Pro Bowls. Fucking win for the

1404
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: Jags and Jalen Ramsey was all Pro for the Rams

1405
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: all those years. Win. It was a win win, right,

1406
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: But you look at the Raiders, you go, you trade

1407
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: to Khleil Mack. He helped the Bears make the playoffs.

1408
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: Then you got all these picks and your team continue

1409
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: to suck on defense and you never made the playoffs.

1410
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: So if you know, it's definitely not a win win.

1411
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: It's not a lose lose because the Bears got a

1412
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: good player. If anything, it's a slight win for the Bears,

1413
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: loose lost for the Raiders. But it took time for

1414
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: us to see who they drafted, what the results of

1415
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: the team are, how that player does, how the team does.

1416
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: You know? In fairness and listen, I talked for a

1417
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: living and I got react to the trade. And just

1418
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: like as fans, we all react. We all react. Basically,

1419
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 1: it's all at right now, fan of the league that

1420
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 1: gives his opinion. But until we see the evidence, you

1421
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: don't know, right, We'll see. Time will tell because historically

1422
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: the Lions like, are they gonna draft good players? Because

1423
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: if they don't, no matter what they would have gotten,

1424
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: it's a loss. If they draft three Pro Bowl players

1425
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 1: and get a star quarterback and Dan Campbell's good, that

1426
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: trade was a heist for them. Same with the Jets

1427
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: getting rid of Jamal for two ones and a two.

1428
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh Joe Douglas, and I like Joe Douglas

1429
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: never met him, emailed him once, try to have him

1430
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 1: on the show, and then Adam Gays thing got weird

1431
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 1: and he you know, hopefully can get him on again,

1432
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 1: but not again because he never come on, but just once.

1433
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: If Joe Douglas doesn't hit on either one of those

1434
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: first round picks that he got for Jamal Adams, it's

1435
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: a disaster because Jamal is good for Seattle. If he

1436
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: gets a pro bowler and a sweet starter out of

1437
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: those two first rounders at worst, it's like, okay, it's

1438
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's a wash. You better hit on those.

1439
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: There is pressure to hit on those picks because Jamal

1440
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: is good. Right, it worked. He's the best player for

1441
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: Seattle on defense when healthy. But like, is he gonna

1442
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: stay healthy? I don't know. Is he like he can

1443
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: he not cover? Is he just gonna be terrible at coverage?

1444
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: Maybe forever? Probably, Like you usually don't get better at

1445
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: covering people as you get older in the NFL, you know,

1446
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: So it's just we do you know if I want

1447
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: to be like old school journalists, like time needs to

1448
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: play out, have a good week, Super Bowl Sunday, Godspeed

1449
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 1: Chiefs minus three audios,