WEBVTT - The CES Products That Never Made It

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and a law of all things tech and last week

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<v Speaker 1>was c e S one, which for many reasons was

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<v Speaker 1>very different from ce S events in years past. For

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, this c e S was fully virtual, so

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<v Speaker 1>instead of dominating the Las Vegas Strip, the event switched

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<v Speaker 1>over to a series of press conference streams from various companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Reporters who normally would be spending time wandering booths and

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<v Speaker 1>securing on location interviews and occasionally trampling me if I

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<v Speaker 1>happened to get between them and free food. We're instead

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<v Speaker 1>covering press releases and video streams, though a few also

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to get some hands on time with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the technology when companies would ship stuff to them.

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<v Speaker 1>But in one way, I suspect c e S T

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<v Speaker 1>one will be like many other ce S events of

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<v Speaker 1>years past, and that some of the things that were

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<v Speaker 1>shown off there are never actually going to make it

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<v Speaker 1>to the market. That can be a little frustrating for

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<v Speaker 1>some people, including myself. I mean, it is the Consumer

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<v Speaker 1>Electronics Show after all, or at least it used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>You actually are not supposed to call it that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the official c S media kit includes the

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<v Speaker 1>sentence quote, please do not use Consumer Electronics Show or

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<v Speaker 1>International ce S to refer to the event. End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not actually sure which year marked the official point

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<v Speaker 1>where c e S no longer really stands for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, as an initialism, but the Consumer

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<v Speaker 1>Technology Association, that's the organization responsible for throwing the event,

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<v Speaker 1>that Consumer Electronics Show is really too narrow a focus

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<v Speaker 1>for what c e S is today. I mean, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff you find at c e S

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really fit the mold of consumer electronics. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>it will never see the light of the day as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a consumer product. Some of it's meant as

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<v Speaker 1>an enterprise product. Some of it doesn't really have a

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<v Speaker 1>physical form. You might be talking about apps, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about stuff that is related to electronics, but

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<v Speaker 1>itself is not an electronic So I get why they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get away from that specific name. So in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, I thought I might cover a few gadgets

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<v Speaker 1>and technologies that got time on the showroom floor of

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<v Speaker 1>c E S. Events in the past, but they never

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<v Speaker 1>made it to something that consumers could actually purchase. And

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<v Speaker 1>I might mention a couple of examples from this past

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<v Speaker 1>c E S. I actually already alluded to this in

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<v Speaker 1>a previous episode of tech Stuff when I covered the news,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about Razor and Project Hazel and Project Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>So those will probably come up again, and I'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a couple of things that haven't been shown

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<v Speaker 1>off at CES, but had a similar path in that

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<v Speaker 1>they were announced but never actually emerged. So let's jump

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<v Speaker 1>on in. Also, I recommend that you look up some

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<v Speaker 1>of these on your own, especially if you can see

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures of them, because a lot of them are

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<v Speaker 1>really fun to look at. Now, sometimes we see a

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<v Speaker 1>product that isn't bad, it's just ahead of its time.

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<v Speaker 1>The implementation of the technology might be a little on

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<v Speaker 1>the crude side, and the price tag might be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot on the high side, and so an idea, while

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<v Speaker 1>a good one, might not go very far. That might

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<v Speaker 1>be why the robot called Genus never really had a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Genus that's g e in Us, debuted at c S NREE.

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<v Speaker 1>The robot looks a little bit like a pedestal on wheels,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of similar to some of the robots that Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>showed off at the c E S one like uh

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<v Speaker 1>like the bot Handy robot. However, the Genus robot is

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<v Speaker 1>a little more angular. It's not quite so smooth and

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<v Speaker 1>round as the other robots are. It's also quint essentially

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<v Speaker 1>eighties in style, so I recommend you check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>The promotional pamphlet for Genus said it is quote fully

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<v Speaker 1>programmed for beginners, yet is programmable for advanced users end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Now clearly, the Robotics International Corporation, which was the company

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<v Speaker 1>behind Genus, saw how personal computers were beginning to take

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<v Speaker 1>off in the consumer market, and they knew that they

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<v Speaker 1>would need to remove some of the barriers of entry

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<v Speaker 1>for the average person, that is, the average wealthy person.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this robot, depending on the options you picked, could

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<v Speaker 1>cost upwards of twelve thousand dollars in nine three, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we adjust that for inflation, that's more than thirty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand bucks today, a princely some I mean you could

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<v Speaker 1>buy a car for that. Anyway, Genus was to have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cool features that we would later much

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<v Speaker 1>much later, seeing products like the Roomba. It was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to learn your home and map out

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<v Speaker 1>the environment and learn where obstacles were so it could

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<v Speaker 1>avoid bumping into things and maneuver around. It could return

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<v Speaker 1>to its charging station on its own when its batteries

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<v Speaker 1>got got really low. Uh. It could even be equipped

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<v Speaker 1>with a vacuum. So gosh, I mean it was a roomba.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not really. It wasn't like an official roomba,

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<v Speaker 1>but you get what I mean. The technology behind this

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty impressive for the day. It included stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>a computer system with at least forty eight whole killer

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<v Speaker 1>bytes of memory. Yalza, had a CRT display, had an

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<v Speaker 1>optional keyboard so you could program it if you wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>had passive smoke detectors, motion detectors, and more. But Genas

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<v Speaker 1>never got much further than its debut at c E

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<v Speaker 1>S and Robotics International Corporation would dissolve sometime in seven. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the product was far too ambitious for the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was certainly an indicator of where things would eventually

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<v Speaker 1>end up, although it would take a couple of decades

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<v Speaker 1>and we're still seeing companies like the aforementioned Samsung introduced

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<v Speaker 1>large robots at c E SE So that trend continues

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We don't tend to see those large robots

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<v Speaker 1>actually getting adopted into the consumer market, but we see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that technology kind of trickled down into

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<v Speaker 1>other implementations like roomba. Speaking of Samsung and robots, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still waiting on Bali, that's the spherical robot that the

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<v Speaker 1>company showed off at C E S For that matter,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still waiting on scout About. What's scaled about? You ask, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about always being prepared if I remember correctly. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>how was a joke? No? Really, The scout About was

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<v Speaker 1>the name of a line of robots Samsung showed off

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<v Speaker 1>at C E S N. The scout About robots look

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<v Speaker 1>like little domes on wheels. I read one review that

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<v Speaker 1>said it looked like little motorcycle helmets that were scooting around.

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<v Speaker 1>They could roam autonomously around your home and the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of the scout About was to monitor your home for

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<v Speaker 1>the purposes of safety. It was to have ultrasonic sensors

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a passive infrared system, and it would

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<v Speaker 1>let the robot sense everything from sounds to the presence

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<v Speaker 1>of smoke. And it also had a temperature sensor. If

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<v Speaker 1>it were to detect a danger like a fire or

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<v Speaker 1>someone breaking a window to gain entry to a house,

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<v Speaker 1>it could sound an alarm and phone home to a

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<v Speaker 1>security service, which then could coordinate with authorities. Samsung said

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<v Speaker 1>the plan was for the robots to hit the market

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<v Speaker 1>by early spring of nine, with a price of where

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<v Speaker 1>between a thousand and fifteen hundred dollars. So again, this

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<v Speaker 1>is that would be somewhere between eighteen hundred and dollars today. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the scout about never came out. Now, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that last year's Bali robot will also never come out,

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<v Speaker 1>Nor am I saying that Samsung's bought Handy robot demonstrated

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<v Speaker 1>this year's virtual c e s will never come out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't hold my breath. All that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's only fair I point out that, at

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<v Speaker 1>least in some cases, it's not so much about a

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<v Speaker 1>specific product, but rather the advancement of the technologies that

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<v Speaker 1>power that prototype or concept. So, in other words, the

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<v Speaker 1>bot Handy, which Samsung showed off picking up a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of wine and pouring a glass of wine for somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>or another video where it showed the robot filling up

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<v Speaker 1>a dishwasher. It's not really necessarily about the row bot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's showing off something that actually is pretty darn cool,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the fact that the AI guiding this robot

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<v Speaker 1>gives the robot guidance on how hard or soft the

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<v Speaker 1>robot's grip should be whenever it picks up something. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we humans get a pretty intuitive grasp on that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff to use a pun, but for robots it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>A robot doesn't innately know how tightly it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>grip something, and so it might approach a cinder block

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<v Speaker 1>or a breeze block for you folks in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>and a delicate champagne glass with the same amount of

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<v Speaker 1>gripping force. That would probably not work out so well.

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<v Speaker 1>It would either be two week a grip for the

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<v Speaker 1>cender block and so it wouldn't be able to pick

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<v Speaker 1>it up, or it would crush the glass and it's

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<v Speaker 1>mighty robotic hand. Either way, not exactly the result you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for now. All that being said, the scout about

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<v Speaker 1>was being demonstrated as if it were actually about to

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<v Speaker 1>go on the market, so that particular example doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>fit into the hole. This is more about showing off

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<v Speaker 1>a technology than making an actual product kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe that was Samsung learning its lesson Sometimes the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff we see at c S is really just meant

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<v Speaker 1>to grab our attention period and doesn't indicate a sincere

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<v Speaker 1>desire to bring a product to market. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>that was the thinking that went into the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>robot marketed by Sharman that is, the toilet paper company,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was called robot because that's genius but not

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<v Speaker 1>genus anyway. The company had a booth set up complete

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<v Speaker 1>with a toilet where you could test out this robot,

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<v Speaker 1>though you were encouraged to, you know, not actually use

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<v Speaker 1>the toilet. The things you learned after experience. So you

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<v Speaker 1>would sit on the throne and you would call out

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<v Speaker 1>for precious t P allegedly by using an app on

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<v Speaker 1>your smartphone, and a little two wheeled self balancing robot

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<v Speaker 1>with a face plate that looked kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>a semi abstract bear face, you know, very like like

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<v Speaker 1>children's drawing kind of bare face. The robot also had

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<v Speaker 1>little ears on top of it that the toilet paper

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<v Speaker 1>roll would sit between and it would wheel out with

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<v Speaker 1>that roll of toilet paper on balanced on top of

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<v Speaker 1>its head. Uh, you know, flat side down obviously, otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>it just roll all over the place. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>no way to see how the robot, which had no arms,

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<v Speaker 1>is just the wheels and a box, and the toilet

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<v Speaker 1>paper roll would be on top of the box. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way to see how the robot would get the

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<v Speaker 1>roll of toilet paper balanced on its head in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. I'm pretty sure there's just some poor booth

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<v Speaker 1>attendee behind the scenes whose job it was to place

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<v Speaker 1>rolls of toilet paper on the self balancing robot before

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<v Speaker 1>it would wheel out of its alcove to the rescue. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this was never really meant to come across as a

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<v Speaker 1>real product. It was more of a marketing gimmick. It

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<v Speaker 1>is too bad, however, because as we saw in getting

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<v Speaker 1>hold of toilet paper was sometimes a challenge, and it

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<v Speaker 1>would be really useful to have a robot bear do

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<v Speaker 1>battle for you in grocery stores to get t P.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was not meant to be Moving on in

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<v Speaker 1>five two years after Genus rolled around at CS Commodore,

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<v Speaker 1>the computer company that had been a real contender in

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<v Speaker 1>the early days of home computers revealed a portable computer,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's amazing is that this one did not weigh

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<v Speaker 1>a ton. A lot of the early portable laptops were

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<v Speaker 1>portable in name only. They typically had a handle like

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<v Speaker 1>a briefcase, and it required a strong back to lug

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<v Speaker 1>around places, But the Commodore l c D tipped the

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<v Speaker 1>scales and a smelt five pounds or about two point

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<v Speaker 1>three kilograms. The Commodore l c D looked a bit

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<v Speaker 1>like a truncated laptop, or maybe like a typewriter connected

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<v Speaker 1>to a small flip up l c D screen. That

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<v Speaker 1>screen could display up to sixteen lines of text, and

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<v Speaker 1>it could run a subset of software that was programmed

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<v Speaker 1>for Commodore computers, but the l c D was not

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<v Speaker 1>fully compatible with the Commodore desktop line. Had a Rockwell

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five C one O two processor running at a

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<v Speaker 1>blistering one mega hurts clock speed. It boasted thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>kilobytes of memory, but it was expandable up to sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four kilobytes. Now. While the company didn't announce a price

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<v Speaker 1>for the planned product, analysts estimated that it would have

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<v Speaker 1>likely retailed for around six hundred dollars, and in that

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<v Speaker 1>would be let's see, for today's money, about one thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>one forty bucks. This project became the victim of internal

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<v Speaker 1>politics at Commodore, or so the story goes. So. The

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<v Speaker 1>way the story works is that the CEO of Commodore,

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<v Speaker 1>Marshall Smith, was talking to John Roach, the CEO of Tandy,

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<v Speaker 1>another company that was selling computers, and during that conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>Roach told Smith that l c D s were going

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere fast baby. Subsequently, Smith decided to cancel the Commodore

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<v Speaker 1>l c D project, along with all other l c

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<v Speaker 1>D related projects at Commodore, and legend says that only

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<v Speaker 1>five prototypes of the Commodore l c D were ever made,

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<v Speaker 1>but only two of them have ever been officially verified.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump around in time a bit more and head

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<v Speaker 1>up town. I was actually at that ce S. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways that companies will try to stand out

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<v Speaker 1>from the crowd is to tap celebrities to announce or

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<v Speaker 1>endorse products. I was not the celebrity. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity at all. But these celebrities, these real celebrities, will

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<v Speaker 1>make an appearance at ce S for what I believe

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<v Speaker 1>could be described as here, let me check my notes,

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, a truckload of money, at least I assume. So.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have no idea how much Slash was

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<v Speaker 1>paid to come on stage and two thousand eight to

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<v Speaker 1>play the opening riff of Welcome to the Jungle for

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Gates and then just disappear and smoke. But I

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<v Speaker 1>bet he was paid way more than I made that

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<v Speaker 1>entire year. Anyway, In eleven, a different celebrity showed off

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<v Speaker 1>a product to all her little monsters. Yep, Lady Gaga

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<v Speaker 1>was at c s Inn. I'm actually really upset I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to go to the event where she announced this.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to see it. I wasn't terribly familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with Lady Gaga, but I knew spectacle when I heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>but unfortunately I was elsewhere. Anyway, she was partnering with

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<v Speaker 1>Polaroid to allegedly design and then unveil the g L

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<v Speaker 1>twenty glasses, a pair of very boxy looking sunglasses with

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<v Speaker 1>a built in camera and a digital display that was

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<v Speaker 1>also built into the frames. And I guess that with these,

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Gaga could become the Papa Rozzie. Oh lah ah,

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<v Speaker 1>poker face there, I've exhausted my Lady Gaga knowledge. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>While Lady Gaga could wear the glasses and look fashionably weird,

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<v Speaker 1>I think most of us would just look weird wearing them.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wouldn't matter because a year later there were

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<v Speaker 1>still no g L twenty glasses on the market. Polaroid

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to still be planning a rollout, but another year

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<v Speaker 1>went by, and another, and by fourteen, Lady Gaga had

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<v Speaker 1>bid au Revoir to Polaroid and the two had parted ways,

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<v Speaker 1>still no glasses. Lady Gaga's involvement with the project definitely

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of attention, but in the end, there

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem to be much of a payoff, and depending

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<v Speaker 1>upon the terms of that partnership, it may have been

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<v Speaker 1>a big loss for Polaroid, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>shame because I still have a soft spot for Polaroid cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got more gadgets that never made it to prime

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<v Speaker 1>time coming up, but first let's take a quick akee

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<v Speaker 1>and now for the that Smells funny category for c

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<v Speaker 1>E S gadgets that never went anywhere. And I'm being

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<v Speaker 1>literal here because I want to chat about the I

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<v Speaker 1>smell from the company Digita Sense. Yeah, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>real thing. I think of this as sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet generation version of smellow Vision. This one made the

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<v Speaker 1>news back in two thousand one, so this was way

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<v Speaker 1>before I ever went to c E S. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry about that, because I wish I could have seen

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<v Speaker 1>it in action. The device looked like a little pod

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<v Speaker 1>with a shark fin like protrusion, and it had vents

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<v Speaker 1>through which sense could pump. The idea is that you

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<v Speaker 1>would load this thing up with some cartridges filled with

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<v Speaker 1>scented oils, and the device would heat up specific oils

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<v Speaker 1>before using a fan to blow the smell out of

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<v Speaker 1>the sense. By heating different combinations of those oils, it

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<v Speaker 1>could produce different sense and it would connect via USB

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<v Speaker 1>to a computer. Now, just imagine the possibilities. You're on

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<v Speaker 1>your computer, you're checking out possible vacation destinations online, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at a beach in Hawaii, and then your

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<v Speaker 1>nostrils detect the scent of an ocean breeze. Maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>even a hint of coconut there. Or maybe you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>a video game and you're rushing through a burning building

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<v Speaker 1>and you can actually smell something that resembles would smoke,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you're looking at an ad for cookies and

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<v Speaker 1>you smell I mean cookies. You know, it definitely falls

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<v Speaker 1>on the gimmicky side, But at the same time you

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of see how incorporating smells into other computer

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<v Speaker 1>activities could really increase a sense of immersion. The team

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<v Speaker 1>behind the ice Smell included Joel Lloyd Bellinson and Dexter Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>both of whom had backgrounds in business. They envisioned a

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<v Speaker 1>database of smells with an algorithm that would best match

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<v Speaker 1>sense to whatever it was the computer was, you know, encountering,

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<v Speaker 1>so that way you would have a relevant smell. So

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't just have, oh, that smells like burned rubber

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm looking at daisies. That would make no sense now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. They also envisioned a world in which people

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<v Speaker 1>would need to purchase refills for those scented oil cartridges,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of similar to how printer companies really count on

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<v Speaker 1>you having to order lots of new printer toner cartridges.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately for the team, the idea received a little

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<v Speaker 1>more than ridicule, even for the name I Smell. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind they were launching this or trying to

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand one, That was two years before Apple

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<v Speaker 1>had even launched the iPod, so they were actually anticipating

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<v Speaker 1>the eye trend. The company failed to release anything to

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<v Speaker 1>market due to a distinct lack of consumer interest, and

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<v Speaker 1>it faded away, and it really stinks. How about another

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<v Speaker 1>category now, This one could be called the old bait

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<v Speaker 1>and switch, or in this case, the belt and switch.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm talking about Belty, which was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>weird gadgets that gets a lot of buzz because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not another big screen TV or fitness tracker. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons a lot of these gadgets get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of coverage. It's not just that they're weird,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that they stand out because it's not yet another

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<v Speaker 1>version of something that we see all the time. BELTI

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<v Speaker 1>appeared in and it was a smart belt. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that holds up your trousers. BELTI was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to make automatic adjustments all on its own,

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<v Speaker 1>tightening or loosening as the occasion demands, such as when

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<v Speaker 1>you go from sitting down to standing up or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>Small motors inside the buckle would activate and increase or

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<v Speaker 1>decrease the tension on the belt accompanying the smart belt

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<v Speaker 1>was of course an app, and together belt and app

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<v Speaker 1>would track activity and give you a running tab on

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<v Speaker 1>your waistline, just in case you were worried that you

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<v Speaker 1>were starting to feel a little too good about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was going to market for around four hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>This version of BELTI, however, failed to materialize beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>demo models that shows like c S, it was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to go to market later, and instead the Belty that

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<v Speaker 1>would ultimately come out was a very different device. You

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<v Speaker 1>can buy a Belty today, but it is a ratchet

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<v Speaker 1>style belt, so you can make minor adjustments, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do so manually. There's no motorized buckle doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for you. The smart part of the belt, the

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<v Speaker 1>current Belty, is that it has a built in battery recharger,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can charge your phone on your belt and

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<v Speaker 1>plug your devices directly into the belt buckle. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to give them more juice. Now, My guess is that

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<v Speaker 1>this recharging battery and the belt is itself a lithium

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<v Speaker 1>ion battery and noing how those can sometimes be a

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<v Speaker 1>little dodgy. I'd be a bit hesitant to strap one

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<v Speaker 1>right up against my pants. I mean it's probably okay, right,

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, phones don't usually spontaneously combust unless it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung Galaxy Notes seven. And yeah, I'm gonna skip BELTI

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, Jonathan, I hear you ask. Yes, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear you. How about you talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>product that was demonstrably a bad idea and that is

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<v Speaker 1>why it never came to market. Okay, I guess I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the Mattel Aristotle because who boy? Was

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<v Speaker 1>that a bad idea and the reaction to it would

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately lead Mattel to cancel launch plans for this device.

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<v Speaker 1>Mattel unveiled the gadget at c E S And if

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<v Speaker 1>you really want an easy way to describe this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>all you have to do is say it's Alexa, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for kids, shout out to the Hudsucker proxy

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 1>for that one. Anyway, it was a smart home assistant

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 1>similar to Amazon Echo or Google Home. Bundled with the

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.920
<v Speaker 1>smart speaker device was a camera, and the whole package

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to retail for three dollars. The back end

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<v Speaker 1>of the system included stuff like image recognition algorithms that

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<v Speaker 1>could recognize specific things within a child's room. Those specific things,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we'll surprise no one could include other Mattel toys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to paint a picture for you. Not the

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<v Speaker 1>Mattel ever said this, but this is just something that

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<v Speaker 1>I imagined when I was reading up on it. So

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<v Speaker 1>think for a moment that you're a little kid and

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<v Speaker 1>you're in your room, and then suddenly the smart robot

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<v Speaker 1>that lives in a speaker says to you, Hey, little

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<v Speaker 1>so and so, how about you go pick up that

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Wheels car and play with it? Room? Room? That

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<v Speaker 1>sure is fun, isn't it. Man? And you know what

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 1>helps would be fun if you had the super Ultra

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<v Speaker 1>Deluxe Stunt Spectacular Hot Wheels set. Then that car would

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<v Speaker 1>go really fast and you would be the most super

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:14.959
<v Speaker 1>awesome cool kid in the universe. Hey, how about we

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>ask Santa for that this year. Yeah, that's a great idea,

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you had, so and so. All right, So I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 1>taking some major poetic license here, but you get to

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm going right, The idea being this could easily

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<v Speaker 1>become a tool that Mattel could have used to try

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<v Speaker 1>and convince kids to get more Mattel toys. Numerous critics

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<v Speaker 1>also pointed out the other very glaring problems with privacy

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 1>that a connected device complete with webcam would represent for parents.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact is, Mattel did plan for the smart

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<v Speaker 1>device to allow you to do stuff like place orders

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<v Speaker 1>for things like diapers, for example, because Aristotle could switch

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<v Speaker 1>from child mode, where it would play with kids, to

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<v Speaker 1>adult mode, and then to up into Amazon's Alexa Assistant. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I found all of this particularly surprising, not because the

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:09.959
<v Speaker 1>company would try to tap into that market that I

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<v Speaker 1>think was inevitable, but rather because Mattel had already been

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<v Speaker 1>burned pretty badly with a Barbie doll called Hello Barbie

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:22.679
<v Speaker 1>from earlier on. This WiFi connected doll was vulnerable to

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<v Speaker 1>being hijacked. According to a security researcher named Matt Jakubowski,

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<v Speaker 1>they could turn into a surveillance tool and spy on kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is beyond terrifying and so, faced with some

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<v Speaker 1>very tough questions, including some coming from politicians, Mattel decided

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<v Speaker 1>to scuttle the plans for Aristotle later in Alright, I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about failed products, marketing, gimmicks, and stuff that falls

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in between, But how about something that was called

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<v Speaker 1>a scam. I mean, that's what some people said the

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Phantom console was all about. And I've talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>Phantom and other episodes recently when I talked about Google Stadia.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand four, the company behind the Phantom in

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<v Speaker 1>Phinium Labs, showed off the Phantom at c e S

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<v Speaker 1>at the Windows Embedded Devices stand only it wasn't switched

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<v Speaker 1>on or connected to anything. It was really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a box. At this point, there was already speculation online

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that in Phinium Labs wasn't totally on the up and up.

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<v Speaker 1>There were message boards filled with threads by users who

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to have visited the listed office address for the

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<v Speaker 1>company only to find unoccupied space. There were investigations into

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<v Speaker 1>the people behind the company, but the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>company was part of c e S and associated with

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft made people wonder if perhaps it was legit. Despite

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<v Speaker 1>those early misgivings. At c e S two thousand five,

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<v Speaker 1>in Phinium Labs would appear at the Nvidio booth. Visitors

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<v Speaker 1>to the booth had a chance to actually play games

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<v Speaker 1>on the console, but those games had already been installed

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<v Speaker 1>on the device, which meant no one can see how

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<v Speaker 1>long it would take to download a full game to

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<v Speaker 1>the Phantom. That's what the Phantom was meant to be.

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>It had no optical drive. You were to download over

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<v Speaker 1>a broadband connection all the games you wanted to play

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<v Speaker 1>on it. It also meant that people would point out

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that this made the Phantom no different from any other

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of computer, because there are already computers that run

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the games that were running on the Phantom. So, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as anyone knew, the Phantom so far consisted of

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>a fabricated case that could be around an otherwise mundane

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 1>collection of PC parts. The Phantom missed launch date after

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>launch date, and eventually it was clear that it was

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>never going to come out at all. Whether it was

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>all a hoax from the beginning or it was just

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 1>a case of a product languishing in development remains an

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>open question. I'd like to think that the team working

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>on the Phantom were sincere in their efforts. I have

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>suspicions about some of the business leaders, but I also

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>suspect that the engineers at Infennium Labs were really trying

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to make a good, robust system. Infennium Labs would eventually

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>produce actual products, but they fell into categories like keyboards

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, not actual consoles. One thing I've seen at

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>numerous c e S shows are devices that claim to

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>read your brain waves and generate a response based on them.

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>That response could be anything from an app encouraging you

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to relax if it senses that you know you're being

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>really tense and anxious, or it could be a game

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>where your concentration affects what's going on. I'm reminded of

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a game called mind Flex that I saw at ce

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>S one year. This one actually came out, so this

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>is something that did make it to market. This was

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a toy from Mattel, or at least you know, distributed

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>by Mattel, that used a column of air to suspend

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a ping pong ball as if ball were levitating. A

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>fan inside the game's base would provide the column of air,

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.479
<v Speaker 1>and you would wear a headset and by focusing, you

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>could cause that column of air to raise or lower

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Essentially, what you're doing is changing the RPM

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>speed of the fan that's generating the column of air. Meanwhile,

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a rotating playing field would introduce various obstacles, and only

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>by making the ball move to the correct height would

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you be able to get through all the obstacles. The

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>headset relies on e G. Readings of brain waves, or

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>at least that's the claim. Now there's some disagreement about

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>whether or not it really works the way they claim

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it does, or if it just presents the illusion of control.

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>But I don't see why it wouldn't be at least

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>theoretically possible assuming you had decent sensors because e G.

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>S you know, picking up e G. Signals through the skull.

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a little tricky. But anyway, let's get back to

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>what I really wanted to cover, and that's the Harry

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>mind Blink, which in some ways sounds similar like the

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>mind flex. This was a device that had a wearable

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>component to it. You would put on what looked like

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a plastic headband, had a wire attached to it that

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>would lead to an atari console and you try to

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>control a video game using not your thoughts. Despite the

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>name mind link, you weren't, you know, focusing. Instead, you

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>were using the muscles in your forehead. The band had

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>infrared sensors that would pick up the movement of those muscles,

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>so by tensing or relaxing your forehead, you could send

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>commands as if you were holding some sort of controller. Uh,

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't work with just any game. It's not like

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you could hook this up to an to play any title.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>They had specific titles made for this device in particular. Uh,

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the inputs are pretty primitive, so they were more like

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the type of controls you would have with a paddle

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>based game like Breakout or Pong or something like that.

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>The mind Link was supposed to come out in nine four,

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>but you know it didn't now. At the time, Atari

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>was also dealing with the total collapse of the home

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>video game market because the industry had suffered a catastrophic

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>failure in nineteen eight three due to many different factors,

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>including a saturation of the market and some supremely bad

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>business decisions, along with a lot of just garbage systems

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and games. And no one was coming out of this

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:33.959
<v Speaker 1>sparkling clean. Everybody had made some dumb decisions leading up

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to this, and so the mind Link was never actually

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>meant to be. Besides, I hear a lot of users

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>would actually get really tired after using it for just

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes because they were scrunching up their

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>foreheads like crazy, just to get through a game which

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like much fun. Okay, we've got some more

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>examples to chat about in a bit, but first let's

0:31:53.720 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>take another quick break. Of course, not every gadget that

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>fails to make it to market debuts at c S.

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>In fact, some companies preferred to announce their latest innovations

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>well outside the c e S trade show window because

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it can be pretty hard to get noticed in all

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the hoop la at c e S. And there are

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>a few examples of concepts and prototypes that we learned

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>about elsewhere that likewise never became a product that you

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>could actually buy. So I thought it would cover a

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of the more notable ones we learned about these

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>examples outside the c e S show floor. And sometimes

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the stuff we see announced is coming out of a

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>company that is going through a tumultuous time, and the

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>reason that the gadget never makes it beyond the showroom

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>floor is because of big changes inside the company in

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>an effort for it to remain relevant. That's kind of

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>what happened to the Commodore l c D, It's kind

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>of what happened to the Atari mind Link, and it's

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>also kind of what happened to the Palm Folio, which

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought was a genuinely neat idea back in the day.

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>As the name tells you, the device came from Palm Incorporated.

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Palm was known for being a leader in personal digital

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>assistance back in the day, and for those young uns

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>among you, a personal digital assistant in those days was

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a primitive smartphone, only without the phone part.

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>You would use one to manage your contacts, take notes,

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>keep your calendar, that kind of thing. And typically you

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>would physically connect these early PDAs to a computer, usually

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>using some sort of proprietary cable or cradle, and you

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>would synchronize data from a computer program to your p

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>d A. But by two thousand seven, when Palm announced

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the Folio, Palm had progressed from the simple PDAs of

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the past and was not making smartphones like the Trio. Now.

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>These smartphones catered more to working professionals than to the

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>mainstream crowd, kind of like BlackBerry. Palm was a brand

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>used mostly by white collar executive types plus some nerdy

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>tech journalist types that I know, though there was some

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>adoption beyond that niche market. One such line of smartphones

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>from Palm as I mentioned was the Trio line of devices,

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and the Folio was meant as a companion for handsets

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 1>like the Trio. The Folio was a very small laptop,

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>categorized as a sub notebook. In fact, if it had

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>just come out a couple of years later, we probably

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>would have called it a netbook. The computer didn't have

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>super hefty specs. It was meant to be a versatile,

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>lightweight device that had a long battery life. It used

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Lennox as its operating system. It had two hundred fifty

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>six megabytes of memory, a four hundred sixteen mega Hurts processor,

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and an l c D display. It was meant to

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>be paired with a smartphone. It had WiFi, what functions

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>like email would work in concert with the phone, rather

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>than going from the Folio to the WiFi network directly.

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>It was a bit of an odd duck in that regard.

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Palm marketed the device as an alternative to heavier laptop

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>computers and pointed out that pairing it with a smartphone

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>would give users Internet access even if there were no

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>WiFi networks available in their area. The pitch was really

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>toward business users who travel a lot, as the device

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 1>suspects didn't fill many people with confidence that you could

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.280
<v Speaker 1>use it to do other stuff like, you know, watch

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>videos or anything along those lines. But then that's not

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the purpose that Palm was pushing it for. The Folio

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>never made it two stores. Palm actually canceled it, choosing

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>instead to focus on refreshing its smartphone technologies. Palm was

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:51.959
<v Speaker 1>in a bit of an existential crisis at the time,

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>with analysts suspecting that the company would either go out

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>of business or accept some other companies offered to buy

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>it out. In two thousand eight, Palm showed off the

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>web OS operating system that's web OS and introduced the

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Palm Pre smartphone at that year's ce S. That's the

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>product that actually did make it to market, but the

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Pre failed to gain much traction in a market that

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>was already being dominated by Apple and the iPhone. And

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it didn't help that Palm had signed an exclusive deal

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>with Sprint as the mobile carrier that limited the amount

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>of people that Palm could reach because it was only

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>for Sprint customers. In Hewlett Packard announced it was acquiring

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Palm for one point to billion dollars in an all

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.280
<v Speaker 1>cash deal. HP would later end all support for Palm

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and web os devices, and it seemed like Palm was

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 1>well and truly dead. But in a company called TCL

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>revealed it had acquired the Palm brand name, and so

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the name lives on, though you could make an argument

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that there's very little connective tissue to the old Palm company.

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Tc L, by the way, was one of the companies

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that this past c e S showing off concept smartphones

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>with expanding O LED screens, kind of similar to the

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.720
<v Speaker 1>LG rollable. While we're on the subject of innovative portable

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>computing devices, let's talk about the Microsoft Courier. Like the Folio,

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>this was a concept that we learned about outside of

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 1>c e S, with most reports about the prototype device

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>appearing in late two thousand nine. This predated Apple's launch

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of the iPad, which makes it even more impressive. Really,

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the idea was for a dual screen portable computer device

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>similar to a tablet, but really more of a booklet.

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>The device could fold into a closed position like a book,

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>with the two screens facing one another. The device included

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>a touch screen that users could interact with using either

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>their finger or a stylus. The pitch for Courier was

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that this was meant to be a device to allow

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>for content creation. It was meant for creatives who had

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 1>less of an emphasis on traditional productivity applications. And that said,

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>it as distinct from Microsoft's mainstream strategy. It ran on

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 1>a modified version of Windows, and ultimately the fact that

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>it didn't fall right in line with Microsoft product strategy

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of doomed the courier. Also, a different team inside

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft was working to develop a Windows variant for tablet computers,

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>which would represent a forked development path, and that in

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>general is a bad thing if you want a cohesive strategy.

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>By Microsoft had killed the project. Now, I mentioned Razor

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and its Project Hazel, which is a smart mask within

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 1>n certification that we we don't really expect to see

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>come to market. There's also Project Brooklyn, the smart gaming

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>chair concept that has a rollable display that extends from

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>the back of the chair over the head of the

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>person who's sitting in the chair. Then it stretches the

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>screen out right in front of them at head level.

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're going to see either of those

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>in the real world, at least not in those forms.

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 1>But Razor has a history of doing this, not that

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I think the company is trying to pull a fast

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>one or anything. It's often using some pretty ambitious designs

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to help push the general industry forward or to propose

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>alternatives to how things are traditionally done. The fact that

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>these projects might not ever hit the consumer market is

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of a drag. But in the process of creating

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>these projects, Razor is pushing designers and engineers to think

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>beyond their normal parameters, and that can often lead to

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>technologies we actually will see out in the wild, although

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 1>they often do not resemble the audacious projects that spawned

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>those technologies. Take Project Christine, for example. This was a

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>really cool idea that Razor floated in two thousand fourteen.

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>It was a PC design with an incredibly modular approach.

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>So imagine a stand. This is your base computer unit,

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:03.359
<v Speaker 1>and in the stand you could plug various modules, like

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 1>a module that has a CPU in it, or one

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>that has a specific GPU, or maybe it's a power

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>supply module or a memory module or its storage. You

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.760
<v Speaker 1>can mix and match. You could create a customized PC

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to your liking, and you wouldn't have to worry about

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff that otherwise is a big part of building your

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>own PC, like is this processor compatible with this motherboard,

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>all that would be taken care of for you, and

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the modular design means it would be easy to swap

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>out components. So let's say your graphics card is getting

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit long in the tooth. You could unplug

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that module from your base tower and swap in a

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>new GPU module or maybe multiple GPUs, and each module

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>would have its own cooling system. According to Razor, it

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 1>was active liquid cooling, and it also had noise cancelation

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>so it would run quietly. What it did not have

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.240
<v Speaker 1>is a release date. And again this isn't to really

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 1>lay fall at Razor's feet. A project as ambitious as

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Christine would require buy in from more than just consumers.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Razor would have to partner with the various companies that

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<v Speaker 1>were making GPUs and CPUs and memory cards and power

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>supplies and all that other stuff. There would need to

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<v Speaker 1>be a coordinated effort to build out modules that were

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<v Speaker 1>compatible with the system. And you know that just didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of inertia to overcome in the PC

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<v Speaker 1>space to make something like Christine a reality. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really interesting idea, one that could be

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<v Speaker 1>transformational if enough companies agreed to make components that would

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<v Speaker 1>fit the modular standard. But I'm also not surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't a lot of buy in on that front,

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<v Speaker 1>because pretty much everyone wants to be the one to

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<v Speaker 1>define the standard rather than the one who has to

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>conform to the standards that were made by somebody else.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Another Razor project that wild crowds but did not transition

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<v Speaker 1>to a consumer product was project Ariana, a projector. This

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<v Speaker 1>one was really wild. So this projector had two three

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<v Speaker 1>D cameras that would actually be used to scan the

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>room you had it in, so that way it would

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<v Speaker 1>create the perfect projection. And then when it was time

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<v Speaker 1>for you, to, say, play a game, the projector would

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<v Speaker 1>communicate with that game and effectively extend your viewing area

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 1>beyond the borders of your display. So you're still playing

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:30.240
<v Speaker 1>your game on your computer looking at your computer screen,

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>but the projector extends that view beyond what you see

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>on the screen, so you can kind of see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the edges of the frame. It's really an interesting notion.

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<v Speaker 1>The projector would also create interesting lighting effects to coordinate

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<v Speaker 1>with the game and enhance your experience. It really did

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>sound super nifty, I'm sad this one never really made

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it beyond the conceptual stage because it sounds truly immersive. Uh,

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.959
<v Speaker 1>maybe it would also be a little on the unfair side.

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're able to extend your view beyond

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<v Speaker 1>what most people can see, maybe then you could, if

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.919
<v Speaker 1>you're playing a competitive game, see players before they could

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>put possibly see you. I guess that might be a

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>thing that could be an issue. But how about Project Valerie.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a Razor concept laptop that featured not one,

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>not two, but three screens. The screens would sit in

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a stack, so you could use it as a single

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>screen laptop, or folding arms could extend a pair of

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>extra displays, one to either side of the central screen.

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Razor called it a way to create surround view with

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<v Speaker 1>a resolution of eleven thousand, five twenty by two thousand sixty.

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 1>That's a crazy resolution. They also called it twelve K

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>because it would be a four K screen of four

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>K screen and a four K screen. You could get

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a real panoramic view of a game this way, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you could use it so that you're playing a

0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>game on one screen, you're looking at BS over at

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Twitch on a second screen, and then you're monitoring chat

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>on your third screen, which would make this laptop the

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 1>portable video game streamer rig of Dreams and wonders. But

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Valerie also never came to market. There are some multi

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>screen laptops out there these days, but they tend to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a very different form factor than what we

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:27.320
<v Speaker 1>saw with the Valerie concept. For example, the Asus r

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<v Speaker 1>O g ZI Furus Duo fifteen, which has a main

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<v Speaker 1>display and then just mounted above where the keyboard is,

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a little hinged system that tilts up a bit

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.280
<v Speaker 1>where you have a touch screen display. That touch screen

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is very wide, but it's also very short, so it's

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>not like a true it's not a second screen that

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that mirrors the size of your primary screen. It's uh

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>an additional workspace, really a touch screen workspace. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how useful it is. I don't know how well

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.279
<v Speaker 1>it works as an extension of your main screen, but

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 1>it is interesting that we're seeing some actual consumer product

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.280
<v Speaker 1>versions of a laptop that has more than one screen.

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>It might not be the enormous beast that Valerie was,

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's a step in that direction. And that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I've got for today's episode. Clearly, there are countless other

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>examples of products that were announced at one point but

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>never ever made it to the consumer market. Uh. They're

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>probably a lot more failures out there than successes. In fact,

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's tons that we never heard of, and

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.839
<v Speaker 1>that's just the nature of things. If you're trying something new,

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not always going to work. But I do like

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the spirit of innovation. I like the creativity. I like

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the audacity of some of these projects that uh never

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<v Speaker 1>made it. I'm very curious what what the world would

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>be like if the I smell had really taken off.

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I hate to think of what some of my favorite

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>websites would smell like. I guess I don't have to

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>worry about that. If you guys have to do questions

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0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.480
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0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a trend in technology, a specific tech and how it works,

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. The best way to do that

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.000
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