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Speaker 1: What a night it was nineteen to sixteen, and I'll

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Speaker 1: your Texans. Here's what it sounded like when Caney Fairbands

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that that that type of trust

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Speaker 1: has been built yet. From that standpoint, Dred the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: Julio moves back to left, Kendall plays on the right.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier to Marcus Lawrence's stat line, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, the second spin move of Hopkins was on

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Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence. He was flying on the field and

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Speaker 1: he made Lawrence miss. But Lawrence's stat line, I thought

435
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Speaker 1: this would be key. I said it before the game.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence's stat line one assist and that's where it stops.

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Speaker 1: How do you think overall the offensive line played, maybe

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Speaker 1: not a run game, but the past protection it felt

439
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: like they held up better than they had except for

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Speaker 1: the one interception where they got pressure. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt that the Davenport feels more secure and

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Speaker 1: comfortable on the left side. And I've given this example before,

443
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Speaker 1: but you guys are sitting there in the studio, just

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Speaker 1: cross your arms and listeners, just cross the rum now

445
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: take now take them apart, and then to cross them

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Speaker 1: the other way. And what you have to do is

447
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: you have to think about it. It's not a natural move.

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00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: Whereas at left tackle, you know, and it takes you

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Speaker 1: a little bit of time to think about executing that move. Well,

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Speaker 1: at left tackle or right tackle, you don't have that

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Speaker 1: kind of time. You know, the guy's blown by you

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Speaker 1: in that sense where you're putting one hand on the

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Speaker 1: on the ground where you used to putting the other one,

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Speaker 1: or you're one foot up to one back where you're

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Speaker 1: used to having it flip flop um, and so overall

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Speaker 1: I thought it was great, A good performance of solid

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Speaker 1: performance by the guys up front. I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: them run block a little bit better. They lost some

459
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Speaker 1: of that steam the last maybe a couple of weeks,

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00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: but overall, the protection was better. And and some games

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Speaker 1: you're just not going to have the type of running

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Speaker 1: game that you want because teams are going to take

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Speaker 1: that away and force you to throw the football. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you would ever forced the Shaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: Hopkins Fuller and now Key Key QT and throwing some

466
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Speaker 1: tight ends in there as well, and Griffin and Thomas,

467
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: but forced the ball into their hands. But that's the

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Speaker 1: way that the Cowboys chose to go about the business yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and it led to a lot of yards and ultimately

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Speaker 1: a loss on their party. Prescott's getting a lot of criticism, Andre,

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Speaker 1: is it warranted? What are your feeling on That's hilarious, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the same thing. Think about it. A

473
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, Shaun Watson was getting criticism, and

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Speaker 1: it's nothing more than put some put some people around it.

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Speaker 1: There's never been a quarterback that could really be as

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Speaker 1: best with no offensive line and a bunch of playmakers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then take away the playmakers and give me the offensive life.

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Speaker 1: Who the hell I'm gonna get the ball to? There's nobody.

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Speaker 1: I was laughing with a couple of buddies mind late

480
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Speaker 1: last night on the text thread that there's nobody for

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Speaker 1: him to go to. He's dropping back, throwing to nothing,

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Speaker 1: and I mean nothing. You got a bunch of maybe

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Speaker 1: third receivers or fourth fourth string guys that he's working with,

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Speaker 1: and he's got Zeke. But when he takes Zeke away,

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Speaker 1: and that was shown last night, he's got nothing else.

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Speaker 1: So you know, there's no plan in place when they

487
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: got rid of Dads and certainly I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they saw the retirement coming with Wit and maybe they

489
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Speaker 1: saw that. But you know, you don't draft players, You

490
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Speaker 1: don't draft anybody high enough Sutton. I think Johnny told

491
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Speaker 1: me was there for the Cowboys to take out of

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Speaker 1: SMU Courtland Sutton. But if you don't have anybody to

493
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Speaker 1: work with or skill position players around you at that position.

494
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: You're only as good as those guys around you. So

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll get through it, and it's gonna be

496
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Speaker 1: a long year for the Cowboys. Know. It's funny after

497
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Speaker 1: the game, Jerry Jones said that he wishes the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: had a number one receiver like Dion hop I don't know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he said, yeah, I don't know who Dean Hopkins is,

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Speaker 1: but you know, it's interesting from the Ry. Cherry's interesting

501
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: individual as it is Drean. I don't know how much

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00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: we've talked about the defense, but it feels like we

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Speaker 1: could go down the list on the defense of guys

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00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: that made plays throughout the night. But stopping the Cowboys

505
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: is about stopping Elliott and that meant the linebackers had

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Speaker 1: to play well. And it felt like McKinney and Cuttingham

507
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Speaker 1: were as good as they've been stopping the run and

508
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Speaker 1: playing Elliott all night. I think it was their kind

509
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Speaker 1: of game. I mean, when you know you're talking about

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Speaker 1: two SEC linebackers that's used to seeing a ball carrier

511
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: come downhill Adam and how to how to get to him.

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Speaker 1: And it's been some obviously some pretty good backs that

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Speaker 1: those two have faced in their careers at Mississippi State

514
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Speaker 1: and Vanderbilt, respectively. But this is their kind of game.

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Speaker 1: And I said it before the game that I expect

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Speaker 1: McKinney to have one of those types of games because

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Speaker 1: it fits him. And but what he showed me yesterday

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Speaker 1: both showed me something that I didn't know they had,

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Speaker 1: and that's McKinney playing sideline the sideline and make it

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Speaker 1: plays outside the numbers. And then Zack Cunningham being big

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Speaker 1: enough and strong enough to take on a two hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty pound back coming right at him I mean

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Speaker 1: and right at in the hole, just one on one

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Speaker 1: and stoning him. So it kind of reversed itself where

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Speaker 1: Cunningham is usually the guy that does what I just

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Speaker 1: described and McKinney being the guy that plugged the middle.

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Speaker 1: They kind of reversed roles yesterday to show you their versatility.

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Speaker 1: So that was outstanding. Also got to give credit to

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Speaker 1: Brandon Dunn. I thought maybe he played his best game

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Speaker 1: as a pro last night. Outstanding. What are you in

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Speaker 1: college this week? I'm going into a place that is

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Speaker 1: hard to get in and harder to get out of,

533
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Speaker 1: but Manhattan, Kansas to see the wild Kansas State and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State do battle this weekend, so yeah, it'll be Uh.

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Speaker 1: I've got the travel part of it armed out, so

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Speaker 1: I know I kind of know how I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go about it. It's basically executing it and having it

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Speaker 1: having it unfold correctly so I can't get the hell

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Speaker 1: out of Manhattan, Kansas Kansas State, Hey, I remember, I

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00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: remember way back when Bill Snyder touched them. Oh wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, now he's still back by the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be one of my first questions

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00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: to him when I get there. It's you know, what

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Speaker 1: keeps you doing this? Because I know he doesn't have

545
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Speaker 1: to do it. Hell, he's got a name on the

546
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Speaker 1: stadium there. If he just wants to be around football,

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00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's probably got a key to the joint.

548
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: But I don't know it eighty plus years old, while

549
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: you're while you would still do it other than just

550
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: to flat out love for doing it, and that's what

551
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: it is, and maybe grooming young men's lives, that's that's

552
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: got to be it. But I'm interested to get his

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00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: take on it. One of my favorite stories about Bill Schneider,

554
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: the coach at Kansas State, he is he's well to

555
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: his eighties and the football stadium is named after him.

556
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: We have I'm a Bear Bryant Award Committee, the Executive

557
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Speaker 1: Leadership team, and each year I get a opportunity interview

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Speaker 1: the coaches. Back when I was doing my actual show,

559
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: I would use the interviews on my show. And I

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00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: went to do my interview with Coach and we were

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Speaker 1: taping them all back in studio. We were at the

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Speaker 1: hotel for the event, but we're taping him in studio

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Speaker 1: and something happened and somebody had used the studio for

564
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Speaker 1: some dumb interview, and so we had to wait. And

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Speaker 1: so Coach rolls up literally right as is happening, and

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Speaker 1: so I know, We've got about eight or nine minutes

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Speaker 1: that I just have got to kill before I can

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Speaker 1: get Coach to do this interview. And so I explained

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Speaker 1: to him. I said, Coach, here's the deal. He's like, John,

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Speaker 1: no problem, and he just sat and he waited, and

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Speaker 1: I after about a minute or so, I was like, Hey,

572
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Speaker 1: so Coach, how about this? And so we talked for

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Speaker 1: good seven eight minutes and then they said all right,

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Speaker 1: you're all clear and did the interview. Talk for the

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Speaker 1: next ten minutes and he was great about it, and

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Speaker 1: I said, Coach, I'm so sorry. I was no problem. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know how that happens. And I mean, he was

578
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: just fantastic. So there's a little there's a little part

579
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Speaker 1: of me that always wants Coach Snyder to do really,

580
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: really well. Actually a big part of me, because I

581
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Speaker 1: think he's what's right about coach football for the most part.

582
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: So Jay hops fun talking to Coach Snyder. He'll talk

583
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Speaker 1: his ear off. Coach Snyder can go a while now,

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Speaker 1: So get ready, Dre all right, we get back. We'll

585
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Speaker 1: talk to our buddy Spencer Tillman right here in Texans

586
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Speaker 1: All Access a battle from the lone star state and

587
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: the Texans to win it in ot. Boy, did they

588
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: dig deep tonight again. They made errors, they failed to

589
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: cash hit a few times, but they held it together

590
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: Andrey Yeah, and they came up with a huge play

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00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: Watson to Hopkins, the two offensive bill Cows teaming up

592
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Speaker 1: on our huge catching run to get the Texans and

593
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: field goal range and fairbaron for the second straight game

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Speaker 1: winner and overtime as the Texans beat the Cowboys nineteen sixteen. Boy,

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Speaker 1: there's something about that number nine. Huh. Holy Smokes nineteen

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Speaker 1: to sixteen Texans get the win over the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show Texans All Access from the

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Speaker 1: Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, football

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Speaker 1: analyst and south On reporter and fan of all things Houston.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this as we started the show last night,

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Speaker 1: started the game last night, and pregame show. There's so

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Speaker 1: many different things I do before the game sometimes have

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Speaker 1: to figure out and remember, but this datten on me

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Speaker 1: at some point. On Sunday, on Thursday night, University of

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00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: Houston beat Tulsa here in Houston or at TDCU Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Then on Saturday, Sam Houston State got a victory in

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Speaker 1: the Battle of the Piney Woods Saturday afternoon, big win

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Speaker 1: for Casey Keeler and the guys. I amc the luncheon

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Speaker 1: that we had here coaches luncheon, which was very, very

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Speaker 1: fun and I appreciate LSC for allow me to be

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Speaker 1: part of that. And then on Friday, the Houston Astros

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00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: won their Game one. The Houston Astros won Game two.

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00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: It was up to the Texas to hold up there

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Speaker 1: into the bargain. The Houston Texans did, winning nineteen sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and then today you've got the Houston Astros finishing off

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Speaker 1: the three game sweep of the Cleveland Indians. How's that

617
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Speaker 1: spin rate, now, Trevor, how about that? Eleven to three?

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Speaker 1: They will go on to the American League Championship Series

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Speaker 1: and take on either the Red Sox or the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: Now here's where it gets kind of interesting from me.

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Speaker 1: Y'all know, I'm from Houston. I'm a huge fan of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Astros, and I've got to be good friends

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Speaker 1: who with my buddy Sal Capaccio, who is the sideline

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Speaker 1: reporter for the Buffalo Bills. We met at the combine

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Speaker 1: in twenty I think it was twenty sixteen and we started.

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Speaker 1: Their table was right next stars. There was John Murphy

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Speaker 1: and Sal was getting some sound and so Sal's kind

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Speaker 1: of sitting there. And in twenty fourteen we played here.

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Speaker 1: I have the sideline pretty much, you know, to myself,

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Speaker 1: but must you know the photox And I look over

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Speaker 1: and I see him. He's the salary reporter for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I look at him, I'm like, yo,

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00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: we start to we're gonna beef here, like what's going on?

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Speaker 1: And Sal walks over you guys, I can't get reception

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Speaker 1: on the other side. And he was just nice as

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Speaker 1: he could be. I was like, oh, man, no problem,

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00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: anything you need, just let me know. So we talked

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00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: about that the combine and then we just hit it off.

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Speaker 1: We start talking. We talked for about probably ninety minutes

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Speaker 1: of two hours, just talking about our experiences where he's from.

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Speaker 1: He coached football in Florida. I could football in Florida.

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Speaker 1: We just had a really good report. We stayed in

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00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: contact over the years. Well, bum hold. Sal's a huge

644
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: Yankees fan. I'm a huge Astros fan. And if the

645
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Speaker 1: Yankees get in the if they win American League Championship Series,

646
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: I believe we'll start that weekend. One of the playoff

647
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: games will be on Saturday when the Bills get here.

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00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: And sounds like, Yo, if that happens, then you got

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00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: to hook us up. And I'm like, if it happens,

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00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: we'll get it done. Now it's up to the Yankees

651
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: to hold up there end of the bargain. Sal just saying,

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00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: not saying, I'm just saying, all right, we got our

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Speaker 1: buddy Spencer Tillman, who we'd love to have on to

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Speaker 1: provide perspective, a team perspective, and also what did he

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Speaker 1: see on Sunday night against the Cowboys. Spencer, So, what

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00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: did you think of the drama that unfolded at NRG

657
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: Stadium last night? It was beautiful. I thought it was

658
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: just an unbelievable physically demanding, you know, frustrating. It was

659
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: exhilarating at times. I think there was so much going

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Speaker 1: on and you you guys were talking about the industrial

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00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: the webster. I was sitting there think the second play

662
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: or third play into the game, and I noticed it happening.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of nondescript. I mean, it probably missed

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. I turned the Great Bailey over

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Speaker 1: khr K and said, hey, look, websters out, you meant

666
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 1: you need to check on it. We limped off the field.

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00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was just it was evan flow. I mean,

668
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: the game was all over the place in terms of emotion.

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00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: Some things were good. Still need to clean up a

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00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: lot of red zone stuff. There's just some things that

671
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: you can do to fix and have a reasonable expectation

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00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: that you're going to have better outcomes moving forward and

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00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: get rid of some of this stuff that's kind of

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: been uh, you know, really hampering us from really exploding

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00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the thing. Defense was unbelievable

676
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: in the second half. So again I found all over

677
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: the place because that's how I felt when you combine

678
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: Oklahoma losing to Texas on top of that, and then

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00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: it really got complicated for me this weekend. It was crazy,

680
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: but what a get Well, there's some layers to that game.

681
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: We can get into it. Obviously a decision that was made.

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00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that a little bit, Spencer, but especially

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00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm maybe putting you on a spot a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and I know Mark will probably do this to be

685
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: at some point too, because I've been thinking about it

686
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 1: all night. How do you get better from inside the five?

687
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: What can you do as an offense given what you have,

688
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: which is this offense and this offensive line which still

689
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: doesn't have a ton of career starts up front. You're

690
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: not really a mash him at the point of attack

691
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: type offensive line, but you have run the ball well

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00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: at times? What can you do to be better inside

693
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: the five? John, That's the most important and I think

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00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: probably the most the most significant question I've been asked

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00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: about this Texans team, and as it relates to this

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00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: specific game at this inflection point. And here's my shot

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00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: at it. I'm a proponent, and I deal with a

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Speaker 1: lot of coaches from all over the country, both in

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00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: NFL and collegiate, but a primary collegian in this time

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00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: of year, I believe that the type of quarterback you

701
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: have your playbook can actually expand, as opposed to doing

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00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: just the opposite. We know that the back end line

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00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: is a type of defense, and you're not going to

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00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, third of your playbook is a conventional wisdom

705
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: goes out out the window when you get into that

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Speaker 1: red area and then particularly at the five in the

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Speaker 1: green zone. So here's what I believe. When you have

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Speaker 1: a dual, a multidifensemensional quarterback who can do everything, I

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00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: think your options actually expand. I've had great conversations with

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00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: at least a dozen coaches about this. Now. The conventional

711
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: wisdom is, which is what a lot of coaches at

712
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: the NFL level I've got to fight, is that you

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00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: want to protect your quarterback. We finally moved him under center,

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00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: which was a great, great thing, but then you get

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00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: a double a gap gut situation where you got linebackers

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00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: filling in those gaps. That look like voids when you're

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00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: sitting back there and gun. That changes thing. Well, that's

718
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: what you can run option game off of that. Come downhill.

719
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: You don't have to put your quarterback in harm's way immediately.

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00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Maybe give him a two yard of a one yard cushion.

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00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: You don't want him obviously running downhill becoming the primary

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00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: runner in a phone booth, but you can draw attention,

723
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: particularly against a fast flowing defense like the Dallas Cowboys

724
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: have men. They are active and they are physical, just

725
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: like they got us on the screen early in the game.

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00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: I think you can have similar success with them because

727
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: they're so aggressive and they run so fast. The playbook

728
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: needs to expand, and I think coach O'Brien hit it

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00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: right on the head. That's on coaches and that's on players,

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00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: because there are options to score the people down there

731
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Speaker 1: when you have a guy that has a suite of

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00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: skill sets like our quarterback does. Specier Delmot joining us

733
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: on Texans Monday, presented by his methodist. All right, so

734
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: what about DeAndre Hopkins A rhetorical kind of question, but

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00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: I want you to address it. How good is he? Well,

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00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: he is not good, he is great, And I don't

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Speaker 1: use that word loosely. Here's what I've learned. I think

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Speaker 1: it was Tory Holt in the great NC state Wide

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00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: respect days. And then there's a little nuance I like

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00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: to put on it as well. When you make a

741
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: mistake and when you, in this case turn the football over,

742
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: something happens that is atypical for you. I'm looking at

743
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: everything about the body language of the player to see

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00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: how he responds and the hot he does just the opposite.

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00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: He takes his game, which is already off the charts,

746
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: to another level. All the guy altogether, he's aware of

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00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: what's going on around him. Yeah, he still may carry

748
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: the battle little bit loosely, but he was so aware

749
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: of when he secured the ball, when people were around him,

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00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: he felt it. He was not going to let that

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00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: happen to him a second time. And then the double

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00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: spin move on, that singular move on, that singular catch

753
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: and run was probably the most entertaining catch we've seen

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00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: and probably at least the last two years, that I've

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00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: seen on one single play. He is so phenomenal guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you run out of superlatives when you try

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00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: to describe him, but he's the ultimate competitor. He's strong,

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00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: he's got all the skills, he's got the attitude. His

759
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: influence in terms of his leadership is off the charts

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00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: as well. I'm just in love with the guy. I

761
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: got a man crush on him, no question about it.

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00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: Hey Spence, I'm gonna ask you this, and I'll Mark

763
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: responded this as well. I don't I can't think of one.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a walk off pick six before?

765
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen it? Because we were that close

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00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: to having one last night with Kareem Jackson, So I'll

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00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: let you answer that, and also I want you to

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00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: comment on Kareem and how well he has played at

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Speaker 1: all the positions he's been playing in the secondary of

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I know you guys are up against

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00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: and so let me just say this, it would have

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00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: been great to see that walk off. And kudos to

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Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson, and I celebrated him when they picked him

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Speaker 1: number one all those years ago. I guess it's been

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00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: almost ten years ago now when he came out of

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00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: Alabama and there were some people who weren't necessarily high

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00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: on that, but man, nobody has been able to slide

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00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: seamlessly into a cornerback, safety roll safety, cornerback as is

779
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: needed because of our injury situation. And he has been

780
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: so effective and coming up from depth, blowing up runs

781
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: a submarineing folks and just taking them out of the play.

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00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: He has been lights out. He is the guy that

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00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: to me, is taking his game to another level. So

784
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: but just to see that has been really pleasing for me.

785
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: And really just to see a guy at the stage

786
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: of his career being meaning so much to a defense

787
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: has been exciting to watch. But both that had been

788
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: a walk off. I had to run out of the studio.

789
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: It had been unbelievable. Has seen me running down the

790
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: street thought I stole something or something. It's been great.

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00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: That's the one war for you. What about the defensive

792
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: performance out of Ezekiel Elliott last night, Well, the defensive

793
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: performance for us shutting him down for the most part,

794
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: was it. Listen, I never would disparage Dallas, but they're

795
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: one dimensional. I mean, Zeke is their guy. Everything is

796
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: flowing through him. And when if you can hold him

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00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: to under sixty yards, man, that's pretty darn strong. I mean,

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00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: obviously he's gonna get some yards in the throw game.

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Speaker 1: But they nicked him up a little bit, had him

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00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: limping off the field a couple of times. They were

801
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: they knew the game plan and that was to limit him.

802
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: And if you can do that, you know, we still

803
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: got to do something about that. Why stick? They don't

804
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: have the Jason Witten anymore. But those explosive plays early

805
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: in the game when they took advantage of our getting

806
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: up field with the screen was perfectly timed. But if

807
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: you can eliminate that, why stick away from what they

808
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: do and then zee keep him under sixty yards under nightness,

809
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: under hundreds, we had ninety eight yards. That's pretty darn strong.

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00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: That's a winning performance against this Dallas team. Hey, what

811
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Speaker 1: are you having college football this week? I got West Virginia.

812
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good game. It's West Virginia and

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00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: Iowa State, who knocked off Oklahoma State yesterday, So that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be Dana Hoganson has got his team planning at

815
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Speaker 1: a high level. Now you're having another Monday show in

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Speaker 1: the books. What an exciting, exhilarating, exhausting Sunday night it was,

817
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: and we got the basket it on Monday. We're back

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Speaker 1: to it tomorrow or fud Ruckers. You got Texas replay,

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00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: plenty of stuff for you. Big thanks to Spencer, Andre,

820
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: to Mark, to all of you for listening. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Rudy and has always go Texans m