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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. Everybody welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Last day of Mini Caamp, last day of the off

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Speaker 2: season on the field. There will be a nice little

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Speaker 2: family barbecue for the guys tomorrow and then it's the desert.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Texas All Access with John Harris and Mark Vandermier,

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Speaker 2: the voice of the Texans.

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Speaker 1: Mark.

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Speaker 3: Last day of Mini Caamp. Good to see the team

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Speaker 3: for a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: We went inside because we got a little rain this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: That was this morning, I should say, and that got

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Speaker 2: got a little ugly, but inside some good things.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts welcome in. How you doing doing great, Johnny.

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Speaker 4: Very competitive practice today. A lot of situations stuff, a

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Speaker 4: lot of red zone than late game field goal situation,

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Speaker 4: a lot of learning on the fly.

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Speaker 1: Ye. A lot of.

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Speaker 4: Different issues came up that they will address and some

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Speaker 4: handled well. Some I'm sure they would want to handle differently,

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Speaker 4: but that's what this is all about. And it's great.

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Speaker 4: It's iron sharp AND's iron like. Dimiko Ryan says, he

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Speaker 4: got both sides making plays. It's beautiful. Great to see

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Speaker 4: Cji there throwing. Day two of him throwing in this offseason,

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Speaker 4: and I loved it all. I really did. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I know, he saidly, I am the voice of the Texans,

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Speaker 4: but this is great to see so many different players

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Speaker 4: out there make it plays. How deep this team is,

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Speaker 4: all phases, special teams included, and they really have a

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Speaker 4: lot of potential here. They just have to go out

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Speaker 4: and do it now, don't they.

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Speaker 2: That's yes, And I think one of the things I've heard,

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Speaker 2: I think it was maybe Brady says it said this,

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Speaker 2: you can't get bored with the basics. And I think

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Speaker 2: the city of Houston, Texas fans, you and I and

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Speaker 2: all of us that follow his team. I want to

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Speaker 2: avoid that tendency of all right, let's just get to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, because that's really where you know that season

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Speaker 2: will be fine. Let's just get to the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: then you know, we win a couple of games to

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Speaker 2: get the AFC Championship game. I think this team is

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Speaker 2: going to be really fun to watch every time it

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Speaker 2: steps on a field.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the talent level. I think the depth at

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Speaker 2: each of the positions. Even when we went into the

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Speaker 2: thing about when the off season started, so it's a

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Speaker 2: few weeks before the draft, think about what they did

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Speaker 2: in the draft, what we've seen in many camp boutiers

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Speaker 2: what they've done with other signings. I eat Nick Chubb

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Speaker 2: the other day and you start looking at Okay, we

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Speaker 2: thought maybe there was an issue with the receiver going

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Speaker 2: into the office. They're like, all right, you got Nico Collins, bo,

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Speaker 2: you're bringing digs back.

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Speaker 3: We don't know about Tank.

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Speaker 2: Well, we had a Christian Kirk yep, draft, jayde Higgins,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Noell signed, Justin Watson. Seeing some significant increases in

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Speaker 2: Xavier Hutchinson and John Metch and you're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: receiver kind of fun, all right, yeah, running back? You know,

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Speaker 2: Joe a little dinged up, don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Damien he'd participated in in the office.

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Speaker 1: He's the other day. Just to share this with the listeners.

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Speaker 4: There's no they're giving them to us to interview you

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Speaker 4: if it's life threatening, as Bill O'Brien used to say,

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Speaker 4: that's right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but depth of running back.

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Speaker 2: Then you add Nick Chubb to the mix, You add

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Speaker 2: Woody Marx to the mix. Meanwhile, you bring back the

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Speaker 2: entire running back room from last year, and you get

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Speaker 2: back British Brooks after the twenty A cl.

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Speaker 1: That he suffered.

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Speaker 2: Man, Okay, you got depth that position, man, that's gonna

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Speaker 2: end up being a really tough cut, you know, tight end.

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Speaker 3: You bring Luke lasche in.

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Speaker 1: You saw the growth of Kate Stover.

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Speaker 3: Offensive line.

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Speaker 2: My god, we'd be here all day for two or

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Speaker 2: three different shows, all the different changes.

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Speaker 3: And things that we've seen on the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: One note on that quickly today I'm looking at it

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Speaker 4: they put the two's for lack of a better way

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Speaker 4: they put the twos, especially today, I thought I could

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, wait a minute, are you

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Speaker 4: deeper than your thought on the offensive line. I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying it's all world, everybody's going to the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 4: but it looked solid both units they had out there.

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Speaker 4: Ella everybody's got flaws. I'm not here to pine in

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Speaker 4: the sky this thing, but I think that this is

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Speaker 4: of people originally thought.

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Speaker 1: With the way they're constructing it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they know where they're going to

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Speaker 4: be in September, but look, this is what training camp

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Speaker 1: Sorted out. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: The defensive line walked over during special teams near us

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Speaker 2: to work out. Yeah, and they were just working some

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Speaker 2: chalkboard stuff, just walk through stuff on the field, Yeah, through.

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Speaker 1: The garbage cans and things like that. Couldn't take my

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Speaker 3: I could not take my eyes.

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Speaker 1: Schematic stuff of what they can do.

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Speaker 2: It blew me away and I just went, WHOA, that's

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Speaker 2: that could be really fun. Then you get the linebacker

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Speaker 2: and then today, if there were some guys that to

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Speaker 2: me stood out today, EJ. Speed stood out today. EJ

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Speaker 2: made a number of nice plays today. And you start

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Speaker 2: the secondary, and I mean, Kamari might have been the

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Speaker 2: MVP of the off season.

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Speaker 1: Like in practice, he was unbelievable. He looks like a

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Speaker 1: pro bowler. He looks like a pro bowler.

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Speaker 3: He looks like he completely belongs.

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Speaker 2: They kept coming after him and he's just like, nope,

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Speaker 2: And it's all kinds of stuff. It's being in a

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Speaker 2: just won't throw at him at times because he's in

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Speaker 2: such great position it And the thing about it is,

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Speaker 2: it feels like the offense has had those moments too,

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Speaker 2: you know today, and we thought about like controlling everybody

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Speaker 2: a little bit, saying that a Texas quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 2: sat out of practice today and didn't throw, just to

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Speaker 2: see what people would say. Man, it was Davis today.

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Speaker 2: Davis did not did not throw. But Keen Slovas has

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Speaker 2: done some good things.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so you look at all these positions and you're like, god, dang,

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Speaker 3: And then what's the practice squad look like?

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Speaker 2: And I know you're gonna have to and I know

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Speaker 2: in the end you kind of can figure out.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be this. I think it's

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Speaker 2: But man, how do you divvy up the reps on

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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you even go about doing.

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Speaker 4: I think the reps are one thing. It's who's on it?

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Speaker 4: Right we do you have who's on it? They're all

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Speaker 4: sudden they're not in there, but you're seeing Barnett make

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Speaker 4: a play or by Taylor. Maybe Darryl Taylor is going

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Speaker 4: and who knows who else. We still have Dylan Horton

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Speaker 4: last year. We talked to him this week and it's

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Speaker 4: hard to write him off going into year two. Starting

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Speaker 4: to get it a little bit. They've got a lot

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Speaker 4: of options there. And look, you're gonna go through six

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Speaker 4: least in certain spots, and you just hope that doesn't

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Speaker 4: become too much of a problem. But we'll be here

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Speaker 4: to talk about it all because you and I are

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Speaker 4: going to be live on the field every morning of

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Speaker 4: training camps. Start things off weekdays on sports Radio six ten,

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Speaker 4: eight to eleven or eight to ten rather, and then

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Speaker 4: we'll take eleven tooth to let us yeah, and then

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Speaker 4: we'll still have the evening show and we'll just go

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Speaker 4: through it all as it happens in real time. Three

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Speaker 4: pre season games open up against the Rams. Take it

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Speaker 4: from there. But training camp is a grind. It's very hard.

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Speaker 4: It's six weeks, it's extensive. It's well, it's not really

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Speaker 4: two a days, it's one a day, but it feels

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Speaker 4: like two a day's because they do other walk through

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Speaker 1: It's the modern version of that.

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Speaker 4: It's just all day long of a lot of activity

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Speaker 4: and you've got the one hundred degree heat along with it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you ready for twenty questions with Mark Vanamir.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Okay.

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Speaker 2: Question number one very simply put CJ stroud these two days.

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Speaker 3: In mini camp seeing him throw.

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Speaker 2: How much better does that make you feel going into

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Speaker 4: I never felt bad about his situation, not throwing, whatever

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Speaker 4: and I felt fine. I know he's a really talented quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be great, He's gonna be fine six weeks

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Speaker 4: of camp. Like I said, I never worried about it,

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Speaker 4: but it was nice to see. It was really nice

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Speaker 4: to see because I didn't want to have to answer

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Speaker 4: questions about it for six weeks. That was that was

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Speaker 4: my big concerned just listening to all the chatter.

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Speaker 1: About is gonna be okay?

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Speaker 4: Well he's fine, So that was important to me from

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Speaker 1: I was never worried personally. Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like the nat that was fly around

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Speaker 2: in this room Ebery now and again. You get up

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Speaker 2: in your ear now and again, and it's annoying when

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Speaker 2: that happens, but it was not there all the time,

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Speaker 2: but you just wanted it to go away, and CJ

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Speaker 2: put that away.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Question two, what do you think Nick Chubb has left

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Speaker 2: and if everybody is healthy in the running back room,

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Speaker 2: how do you think that all fits together?

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Speaker 1: Be it roster and playing to see?

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Speaker 4: Everyone talks about Darry, but the Dar a role is

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Speaker 4: a role, right, It's not like Chubb can become Darry.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody you know.

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Speaker 2: People want to say, well, what he marks is the

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Speaker 2: next Dar. I don't know that anybody can be the

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Speaker 2: next Darry, and perhaps all the Mars can be, but

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Speaker 1: It's a son of a bug. But I just I

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Speaker 3: It's hard to get out of your head.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is a guy coming off of a devastating

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Speaker 4: Well, they's a situation today where it was third and

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Speaker 2: Let me throw you, let me throw your curve ball.

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Speaker 3: Team, I gotta get them on the field, right.

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Speaker 2: What about a package that includes both Mixing and Chubb

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Speaker 1: You know you love these things.

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Speaker 4: I loved doing something you were talking about that with

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Speaker 4: But he talked about that with us. Damien did about

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Speaker 2: But I just I remember Reggie and Lendale at USC

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Speaker 2: The number two wide receiver in catches in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: To be wide receiver. You're saying, not tight end. Wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Can't be Schultz, KB Schultz, can't be Stover, can't be

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Speaker 1: So I like Kirk being number two in receptions.

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Speaker 2: Who has more catches Nico Collins or the Cyclones.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Johnnyep So, you know.

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Speaker 3: What DeAndre have year won pop fifty, like fifty catches.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back and look, you still let Andre

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Speaker 1: So, and that was twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 4: They were thrown a lot because they were down a lot,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was fifty all right.

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Speaker 2: Would you take fifty catches for Jayden Higgins in year one?

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Speaker 2: Right now you're getting fifty catches from Jadan Higgins over

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: The number one is Jaden Higgins catching fifty balls, you know,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely taking the fifty. I'm not looking back from the

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Speaker 1: But you know, Schultz has had some issues healthy. You

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Speaker 3: What have I said all off season?

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Speaker 2: Okay, next question, will the Texans carry a true fullback?

441
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,439
Speaker 1: I e. Yakub Johnson. That's a great one. I'm going

442
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,199
Speaker 1: to say more likely not. Yakub is definitely intriguing. I

443
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 1: like him, you know, you and I love this kiddies.

444
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 3: He was fun to I can't wait to play an interview.

445
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 1: Is so good poster boy for NFL global expansion. That's right.

446
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 4: German kid played for the Stuttgart Scorpions.

447
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 1: Who he's now a bomb part.

448
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,200
Speaker 4: Of Yes, I need a shirt I want to dry

449
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 4: fit that says Stuttguard Scorpions on it.

450
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: I got to look up that lot.

451
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 2: I will wear that all day, every day. That's I mean.

452
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: He had one handed ketches today.

453
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 4: When the mcnaies were brainstorming about naming the team back

454
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 4: in two thoy nineteen ninety nine, Scorpions did Scorpions. Of

455
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 4: course it didn't, but Scorpions.

456
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: What were the finalists back then?

457
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 4: I think it was the Toros. The Apollos came up, Yeah,

458
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 4: I remember that. I know the Stallions were floated out there.

459
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 4: I don't know how deep it got with the Stallions.

460
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 4: I don't like the Stallions. The Stallions to me, sounds

461
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 4: a little like USFL Birmingham Stallions.

462
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, the Apollos. It's not bad, not bad.

463
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: It's better than the commanders. I don't like the commanders.

464
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: I don't like commanders at all. Now I don't like

465
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 1: commanders at all.

466
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 4: Wait, what was the It was the red well, so

467
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 4: it was Redskins, but it was the Red hat not

468
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 4: the Red Hawks, because that's Miami of Ohio.

469
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: What was the air Group, the the bottle. I can't remember.

470
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 2: I remember when the name was first Red Tails, Red Tails,

471
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: red t because everybody's like Redtails and they're kind of

472
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 2: freaked out and they're like, oh, it's an homage to

473
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 2: to the Aerial Group, and I was like, oh.

474
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I was fine with that. Let's go.

475
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 3: They want commanders, so they could have that pig.

476
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: Hail to the Red Tails.

477
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 4: The song would still six ale to the commanders.

478
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't work. That's exactly right, Okay, next question.

479
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: All right, the over under for kickoff return touchdowns in

480
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five is one?

481
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 1: Okay?

482
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 4: The one is the proper number to set. I think

483
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 4: they get at least one over under. I'm gonna go over. Okay,

484
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 4: I had to pick one. You say you gotta pick one,

485
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 4: right yet? Sit at one? Yeah, that's the number. Okay,

486
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 4: you got So if it's a half, I'm going over

487
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 4: for sure. But at one, I'll still go over. I'll

488
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 4: still go over. Okay, and say they'll get two. Now

489
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 4: that's really putting it out there, but here's my rationale.

490
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: There are going to be so many kickoff returns this year.

491
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 4: Teams are not going to be willing to put the

492
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 4: ball at the thirty five.

493
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: That automatic. No, they won't be There's no way, no way.

494
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: And the evolution of this game.

495
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 4: Johnny used to kick off and get the touch back

496
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 4: at the twenty. Then it became the twenty five, and

497
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 4: I thought that was radical because now all these drives

498
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 4: are seventy five yard touchdown drive. Then it last year

499
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 4: was seventy yard touchdown drive because you're getting it.

500
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: At the thirty.

501
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 4: Now it's a sixty five yard field, let's basically quote

502
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: a short field.

503
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: Almost. I'm not down with it. I want to kick

504
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: that ball off.

505
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: We've seen Fairbarn practicing his kickoffs to get him into

506
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 4: the landing zone between the goal line and the twenty

507
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 4: yep and hopping really weird and hoping that the opponent

508
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 4: gets discombobulated on the return because you know you need

509
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 4: to get this ball returned, but you want to stuff them.

510
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So think about it this way.

511
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: How many kickoff returns did we have last year? Kickoff

512
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 2: returns period? In seventeen regular season games? How many kickoff

513
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: returns I'm gonna say thirty under twenty three, that's it.

514
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: We had twenty three returns. Now, geez, let's say in

515
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: a game, how many a game? Anywhere between three to five? Right,

516
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: typically kickoffs? Yeah, right, about three to five? Right, I

517
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: figured maybe two per game. A little less than that.

518
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: I figured thirty just not looking at it. Yeah, but

519
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: you're telling me it's less than that, but it's twenty three.

520
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: But let's think about this. How many times does the

521
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: team kickoff in a game? It's definitely one, you know that.

522
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: And there's a feeld goal here, kick there. There's probably

523
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: how many kickoffs in the game?

524
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: Four or five? Okay, so what the middles go? Four?

525
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: So four for seventeen games just on average, Yeah, sixty eight, right,

526
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: So you're tripling pretty much the number of kick returns

527
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: that you would have.

528
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 4: Well, if you had twenty three, let's see, you don't

529
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 4: do it all the time, even doubling it. Doubling it

530
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 4: gives you that kind of opportunity because the year before

531
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 4: Pierce had won yep for a touchdown. So that was

532
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 4: with the ball going not to the it was to

533
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 4: the thirty right, thirty.

534
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it wasn't.

535
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: The dynamic kickoff return last year was the dynamic kickoff return.

536
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: He had an eighty yard kickoff return last year. He

537
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: only had nine kickoff returns. Pierce did nine. However, and

538
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: this this is something to consider when we're talking about

539
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: running back depth chart. All that Damien averaged thirty eight

540
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: yards kickoff return in nine tries.

541
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: Nine eighty yards get it, go the eighty does.

542
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: But even if you go eight.

543
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: For, let's say you go eight for take the eighty

544
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: out two fifty nine, you're still talking about thirty two

545
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: to thirty three yards kickoff return.

546
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: You can see why the league wants it every time

547
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 4: that ball's in play, especially in that situation you're thinking,

548
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: you know, if you're on kick coverage, get them, get them.

549
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm stressed. Right if you're or the returning team, right,

550
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 4: you're just hoping that he breaks it. It's another play

551
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 4: of action in this league, in this great game we love.

552
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: So I understand them wanting to do it. The injuries

553
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: are gonna increase also because it just it's not the

554
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: math of it all. And will that detract them from

555
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 4: continuing with this rule?

556
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: And that's that I think that is the number one

557
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: question with it.

558
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: But in twenty three returns, Damien had an eighty yard er,

559
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: So you feel like, all right, if you go to

560
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: just double it or get the fifty returns. Maybe that

561
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: becomes one of those, becomes a kickoff return another one.

562
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: I find it fascinating just watching the kickoffs today and

563
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: watching Kayimi adapt his kickoff format if you will, It's

564
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: not they're not high booming.

565
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: I need air.

566
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: I need to get this thing up in the in

567
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: the air. This thing is I'm kicking. I'm kicking not

568
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: warm burners, but I'm kicking line drives as best I can.

569
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: And that thing is gonna land into twenty and that

570
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: is gonna be really real different. I'm gonna tell you

571
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: one thing on the kickoff returns that teams are probably

572
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: gonna be looking for is somebody who played baseball. Somebody

573
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: who play baseball that fielded grounders, knows how to field

574
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: the ball, weird hops, things like that.

575
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 3: Those guys are gonna be super valuable in those kicks.

576
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: Somebody from the Dominican Republic, perhaps because I'm telling you,

577
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 4: I was talking to Kevin Bess about this and he said, Man,

578
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: some of these guys from the dr from Venezuela, places

579
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: like that.

580
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: They can field like nobody's businesses. I'm just right. I mean, like,

581
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: maybe you could get somebody.

582
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 3: But you're gonna have to have somebody back there that's

583
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: like that, have.

584
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: To practice like that.

585
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: I think fair Bear still will kick some high booming

586
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: kicks and try to get it inside the five.

587
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: He'll mix it up. I think that's the whole idea here.

588
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: But I know what you want it hot.

589
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: I don't think you want the high kicks because that

590
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 2: doesn't even do anything for you. And you got your

591
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: guys sitting there standing and they're waiting for the ball

592
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: to come down. Invariably as the ball is up in

593
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 2: the gear that much those guys gotta wait that much longer,

594
00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna jump.

595
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: It's gonna be five yards against you.

596
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: So just kick a line drive, get him a good rhythm,

597
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: and get them out of there every time.

598
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: Virtually, it's gonna be a line of drive.

599
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: If Kaimie can do it, and prove he can do that,

600
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: which that's what he was doing.

601
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: To the landing zone is from that angle.

602
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: From that angle, it's not the thing about this.

603
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 4: It's like your line driving, and it's got to bounce

604
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: inside the twenty. It's harder than to boom it high

605
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: and bounce it inside the twenty because it's like shooting

606
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 4: a basketball flat versus the arc on the shot.

607
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: You want the arc on the shot.

608
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: You want the arc to enable yourself to get it

609
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: into the land that landing zoner inside the tent.

610
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting.

611
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 4: We'll talk about a lot about this because this is

612
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: a definite facet of the game where teams are gonna

613
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 4: make hay or not.

614
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: Field position is so crucial.

615
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: Well to that end, and you you made you you

616
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: made the comment as we were standing there. You got

617
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: to the Texas two thousand and two when they opened

618
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: up a touch back in two thousand and two went

619
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: to what yard lock twenty a touch back now typically

620
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: a touch back in the end zone.

621
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: Touchback now goes out to the thirty five.

622
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: It's great, that's fifteen yards. That is wild.

623
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean you just think about that, if kin, I mean,

624
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: think about our defense against I don't know, the Chiefs,

625
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: and you're playing the Chiefs and Kymie hits a ball

626
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: six inches deeper than he wants, They take a knee,

627
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: they get the ball, and Mahomes gets it at the

628
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: thirty five versus you put that thing, it hits the

629
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: grass and goes through the end zone. Now all of

630
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: a sudden he starts at the twenty right, and it

631
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: changes everything.

632
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: You miss and hit too early.

633
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 4: He's got it at the forty right right right, you

634
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: miss and it just bounces in and they down it

635
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: in the end zone.

636
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: He gets it at the thirty five.

637
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: It's it is a I think special teams have They've

638
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: always obviously been important.

639
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 4: If he bounces it in the landing zone first, then

640
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: he gets it at the twenty. But if he bounces

641
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: it in the end zone first and right down right, yeah, okay.

642
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: And even and if he misses something, if you hit,

643
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: try and hit too much of line drive, you hit

644
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: the ball at the twenty five, yeah, you know, as

645
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: you're trying to hit kind of a knuckleball line drive thing.

646
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: Ball's dead ball to forty geez.

647
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it can change everything everything. It's just added

648
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: another unique and different situation in the game. Well, what

649
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: you know, I love I love all the you know

650
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: the time at the end of you know games, we

651
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: always talk about that. That's always the fun part of

652
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: a game when there's a break any action late in

653
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: the game. But we're all trying to figure out, Okay,

654
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: here's what they got to do. We got two timeouts.

655
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 2: You got this today. They were working those situations at

656
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: the end of practice and yeah, I don't want to

657
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: say in the cloak of darkness, but it wasn't in

658
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: front of seventy five eighty thousand fans. You know, they

659
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: can make their mistakes, they could get it right. It

660
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, but they at least get the chance to

661
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: work on it. And who knows whether it's that situation

662
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: is gonna gonna pop up. In fact, our next guest

663
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: discusses something that the Texans had worked on for four

664
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Speaker 2: years and hadn't pulled it out until December fifteenth, twenty

665
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Speaker 2: twenty four, when the played.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Daria Gale is gonna join us next right here at

668
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Speaker 2: Texans All Access TEP. But everybody walking back to Wednesday,

669
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: they should have Texans All Access from that Texans a

670
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Speaker 2: radio studio. I am John Harris football and a sideline reporter,

671
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: and one happened the lab crew should have in a

672
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Speaker 2: lab later this week.

673
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: Drew's back this week, so we'll try to knock.

674
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Speaker 2: Out it in the lab. Also, I would imagine I'm

675
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: one of a handful of a few, maybe many of

676
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: the charter members of the Daria Goomballe fan Club. Daria

677
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: is one of those guys when you get to the

678
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: offseason and everybody talks about what the Texans should do.

679
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: I think Darry's one of those guys. Well, you know,

680
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: move on from Dara. You know you don't need dark,

681
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah you do. Daria is He's special man. He is

682
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: a different kind of guy because he had so much

683
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: on special teams. He's really good as a third down back.

684
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: He's such a great leader, He's kind of seen it all.

685
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: This interview we had a chance to do with that.

686
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: We dove into a lot of different things with him,

687
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: but I thought it was I asked a question of

688
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: a lot of guys of this, and I think Darry

689
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: had one of the best answers. But I essentially asked

690
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: him nine years into the league. Dary Goombwale sits down

691
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: with rookie Darya Gumbwale. What advice, what one piece of

692
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: advice would you give to rookie Darry Gumbwale. And I

693
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 2: thought his answer was absolutely dead on perfect, And it's

694
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: an answer that I think a lot of people would

695
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: be advised in the right way to heat for whatever

696
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: they're dealing with and you'll hear the answer, and it's

697
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: absolutely awesome because I remember twenty seventeen.

698
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 3: I remember those practices.

699
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: I remember the the just constant barrage of hey do this,

700
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: Hey do that, Hey, you're not good enough. I mean,

701
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: Dary hits on all of that in this interview and

702
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: then some let's get to it, Mark and I sat

703
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: down with the man himself, Daria Goombwallee.

704
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: All he does is make plays. Dar. How's it going,

705
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Dara man Um doing great? You know.

706
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: I was writing a little piece about OTAs and thinking

707
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: about you, you know, and I saw a little highlight

708
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: clip of the Buffalo game last year and you had

709
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: that big first down late where you slid the clock

710
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: keeps rolling.

711
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: I know we didn't win it on that drive.

712
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: But then you had the little quick short pass and

713
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: get down and bang kick the field goal, go away

714
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: and obviously winner against Jacksonville. We can name a ton

715
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: of them, but you take a lot of pride being

716
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: able to show up for the big moments and the

717
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: little moments.

718
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 5: Absolutely, man, this stage of my career, you know, being

719
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: able to kind of directly be a part of winning

720
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Speaker 5: games just and like you said, in those situations you

721
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 5: mentioned at the end of games. You know, it's always

722
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 5: special for me, man, So it's definitely something I take

723
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: pride in.

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Speaker 3: So this is year my Matthews. Year nine, Yes, sir, yes, sir.

725
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Speaker 3: Year nine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, take me back to twenty seventeen. Is a rookie

727
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five and year nine. What one piece of

728
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: advice would you give rookie dare to get you through

729
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: to year nine? What would you look back and go

730
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: a man as a rookie. I wish I'd have known this. Uh.

731
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Speaker 5: I probably would just say, bro, just just know that

732
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 5: I was good enough, you know, my rookie year man.

733
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Speaker 5: We we had, we had some good players. I was

734
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 5: drafted with another running back, my boy Deontae, and it

735
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 5: was just a lot of doubt, you know what I'm saying,

736
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 5: just the way I didn't know the way the NFL

737
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 5: worked and the way depth charts worked and stuff like that.

738
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Speaker 6: So it was just a lot of a lot of

739
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Speaker 6: confidence I lost.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like it might have set me back

741
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 5: a year or so just because I wasn't playing like myself.

742
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 5: You know, I was trying to kind of fit this

743
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 5: mode that I thought I had.

744
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 6: To be, you know, to be in the league.

745
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Speaker 5: And then as obviously, year two, year three come along,

746
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 5: and I started realizing I'm good enough, you know, and

747
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 5: I feel like my rookie year could have gone a

748
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 5: little differently if I just knew from the beginning that

749
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 5: I was good enough. Looking back, now, I know I'm

750
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 5: good enough and I've been able to make a career

751
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Speaker 5: out of it.

752
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: But how important it is fit and a proper role,

753
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: an appropriate role, if you will.

754
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 5: It's huge issue in this league is huge, you know,

755
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 5: and then are so big, guys are so good, So

756
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 5: you just got to be able to find find a role,

757
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: find with your coaches what your team needs you to be,

758
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 5: and then be able to do that.

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00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: You know.

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00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 5: It's one thing to have a role, but obviously you

761
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 5: got to be able to do that too. So I'm

762
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 5: being able to, like you said, make those plays that

763
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Speaker 5: I've been able to make throughout my career.

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Speaker 3: Help me out, Okay, I want to talk to you

765
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Speaker 3: about one of those case.

766
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Speaker 2: We had MJ in a little bit earlier today and

767
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: we were talking to him about this.

768
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Speaker 3: Fake punt Miami.

769
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Because you've made plays and all Mark said, you may

770
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: plays in all different realms, So fake punt against Miami.

771
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: Take us through that play because everybody was shocked, and

772
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: it sounded like from what MJ said, you guys were

773
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: shocked in a huddle what he called it.

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Speaker 5: So, the crazy thing about our punt team is I'm

775
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 5: a third down bag, you know, so punt teams on

776
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 5: the sideline on third down talking it through. I'm on

777
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: the field because it's third down. So Weeks comes out

778
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 5: for fourth down, we don't get the first down. Weeks

779
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 5: comes out for fourth down. He's like, run the fake.

780
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, like, we've had this fake in since twenty two.

781
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: We're not running this fake. MJ's like, hey, we're running

782
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 5: the fake. I'm like, oh, we're running the fake like

783
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 5: it's time because they're telling me. Frank didn't tell me.

784
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 5: They're coming on the field telling me. So I'm like,

785
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 5: let's do it, you know, and we've practiced it. We'

786
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 5: we drilled it numerous times, being MJ of Weeks to MJ,

787
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 5: the MJ to me, so we we knew we'd be

788
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 5: successful with it. But just the fact that Frank dialed

789
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: it up in that moment was dope, man, and being

790
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 5: able to get to get the big playoff of.

791
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: It made it not as pretty.

792
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: You know, hit the hit the ground, the ball came out,

793
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 5: So couldn't celebrate as much as I wanted to because

794
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: we had to make sure we have the review. But no,

795
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 5: it was a good vibe, bro. Everybody was on the

796
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 5: sideline having a good time after that. Frank Frank definitely dialed.

797
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: Up, Daria. I feel like we asked you this every year.

798
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: But when I look at young backs coming into the league,

799
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: the first thing I think of, Well, one of the

800
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: first things is past protection. Are you good at it?

801
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 4: When did you become good at it? Were you good

802
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 4: at it right away? And that had to be one

803
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: of those things you realized, you know what, I'm good enough,

804
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: but I've got to.

805
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: Be good enough to do this for sure.

806
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 5: I'll say from a mental standpoint, in college coach coach Christ,

807
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 5: Paul Christ, he had a very NFL Pro style offense

808
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 5: when it came to the passing games, so it was

809
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 5: a lot of pass protection, a lot of.

810
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 6: Double reeds, kind of like how we have to do now.

811
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 5: And then from a physical standpoint, I really had a

812
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 5: couple of mentors throughout my career. The quiz Rogers, my boy, Yeah,

813
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 5: Houston guy too, exactly. We were in Tampa together. He

814
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 5: showed me the importance of of just being a good

815
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 5: pass protector and technique and stuff. I mean, granted, he's

816
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 5: a lot shorter than most running backs, so he already

817
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 5: had that natural leverage, but just being able to have

818
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 5: that technique consistently, It's something that I learned from Quiz

819
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 5: and then Carlos High when I was in Jacksonville, another

820
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 5: guy that played with the Texas. He just showed me

821
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 5: how how physical you got to be with these linebackers

822
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 5: when you've pass protected and protecting quarterbacks. So I would

823
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 5: say it was a combination of a bunch of things

824
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 5: that kind of got me to be become a pretty

825
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 5: proficient pass protector. But I would definitely say those mentors

826
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 5: helped me a lot.

827
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Quiz and Kwan Man there was bad and they went

828
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: to my high school and their uncle is one of

829
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: my best friends.

830
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 3: So I've been watching them for a long time. No

831
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: Quiz with it you now.

832
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 6: Shout out to Kwan too. Shout out to Cluis and

833
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 6: c bro Man.

834
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: He was he was something else you mentioned something earlier, Dar,

835
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about how many players over

836
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: the years you said we've been in this league going

837
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: on year nine, how many players have probably lost opportunities,

838
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: lost jobs, not because they weren't good players, but they

839
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: just had seriously lost their confidence.

840
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it's countless. It's got to be countless, man.

841
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 5: It's it's a it's a tough job, man. And they

842
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 5: tell you, they say sports professional sports ninety mental, ten

843
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 5: percent physical. I mean that I don't know the correct

844
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 5: stats on that, but I mean it's crazy how mental

845
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 5: this game is, man.

846
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 6: And just being able.

847
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 5: To have that confidence in yourself and know who you are,

848
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 5: bro is something that is essential.

849
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 4: Man.

850
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 5: And then like you said, it's a lot of guys

851
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: aren't able to find that. You know, it's even if

852
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 5: they're they're Starr Kyleie is your big big player coming

853
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 5: out of high school.

854
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 6: I mean when you get to the league, everybody's like that.

855
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 5: So it's you kind of you kind of can find

856
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 5: find ways to get lost. But just being able to

857
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 5: stay ground and having the right people around you. Man,

858
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 5: It's been huge for me just having my family and

859
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 5: friends around me, then keeping keeping me on the right

860
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 5: track with that, and it's been a blessing man, being

861
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 5: able to do what I've been able to do.

862
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: I got a question about family in a moment, but

863
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: I've got a bigger question about this.

864
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: Offense and what it's gonna be. Like, what are you seeing?

865
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 6: Darra KALs just got us, He's got us dialed in.

866
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 5: Man.

867
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Speaker 6: I love the way he's installed the playbook.

868
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 5: I mean, starting there is just a guy like me

869
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 5: who prides himself from picking up playbooks quickly. I mean

870
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 5: he's he's made it very easy for us to learn

871
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: this offense, and so that's been big for us. But

872
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 5: I mean there's there's a big plays to be had.

873
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: Obviously with we've we've always had an explosive offense. One

874
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 5: seven got to the to the team, so we're not

875
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: worried about that, but just being able to stay on

876
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 5: track and just the way that that that we needed to,

877
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 5: you know, these last couple of years.

878
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 6: I think we'll be able to do that this year.

879
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: When you look at the running back room, there's a

880
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: little there's some season vets like yourself, some young dudes

881
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: you talked about Quiz earlier, talking about Carlos Hyde, those

882
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: guys you know, pouring into younger, younger you. How important

883
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: is it, how important is it for you to kind

884
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: of pour back into them because I know there are

885
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: some guys that are like, look, I gotta play, I

886
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: gotta keep a job, But how important is it for

887
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: you to kind of share what you've learned, So those

888
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: guys kind of pay it forward as well.

889
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, it's huge, man.

890
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 5: I mean, especially we get a player like Woody Draft Woody,

891
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 5: he's a good guy, definitely wants to to learn, you know,

892
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: And that's when you got a guy like that that

893
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 5: wants to learn, I mean, it's I mean, I don't

894
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 5: think there's any VET that doesn't want to help him out,

895
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 5: you know. So it's been good to be with it.

896
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 5: And then even the other young guys, we still got jobs,

897
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: We got British and DP is still a young guy

898
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 5: in my eyes. I mean, so it's just we've got

899
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 5: young guys that are eager to learn, and it's I

900
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 5: definitely am a mentor and me and Joe both help out.

901
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 6: But we got dB. He's a hell of a coach man.

902
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 6: He makes it.

903
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: He makes it so easy for all of us, so

904
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 5: we really don't have to do too much when it

905
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 5: comes to that. But like I said, I mean, when

906
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 5: when those guys ask a question I mean, I'm always

907
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 5: excited to help him out just because I know what

908
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 5: questions like that are because I ask those same questions

909
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 5: and it's gotten be to my ninth year in the league.

910
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 5: So definitely want to help those guys out so they

911
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 5: can stay in this league as long as possible.

912
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: How often do you insist compare notes on playing so

913
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: long and so well as pro athletes.

914
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 5: I mean, that's one thing that's probably the only thing

915
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: I got on her right now, is being able to

916
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 5: play longer than her because I mean, I mean, she's

917
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 5: an animal, She's an anamal out there.

918
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 6: It's it's a blessing to be able to see her.

919
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 5: And the same thing I was saying with DP, I mean,

920
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 5: it's just I can't believe she's in her seventh year

921
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 5: right now. Man, Like I remember watching on draft day,

922
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: watching in the final fours and stuff like that, and

923
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 5: now like I get to watch her and breaking down

924
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 5: the huddle, you know what I'm saying, pumping up her teammates,

925
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 5: leading her teammates. Just seeing her in that leadership roles

926
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 5: just as a big brother has been amazing to watch.

927
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: So what's the off season for you? Min Camp this

928
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: week crampon barbecue Thursday. After that, five six weeks off?

929
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: What you got planned?

930
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 6: Yeah?

931
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 5: So this weekend I'm going back to Milwaukee, me and

932
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 5: Eric Murray hosting a camp in our hometown. So that's

933
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 5: gonna be dope free camp for the kids. And then

934
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 5: after that just back back here training season, take a

935
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 5: hold of with the Dallas Wings. So I'll be be

936
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: course side, course sighted all the home gags during that

937
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: break I can, and then get back to Houston, you know,

938
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: get back to Houston, get ready for the heat and

939
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 5: getting my body acclimated to that for training camp.

940
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: Make the pitch w n B A back to Houston, right, I.

941
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 6: Would love it. I would love it.

942
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 5: We deserve we deserve one down here. I mean I

943
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 5: think I think it would do well here, huge city.

944
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I think it's a no brainer.

945
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got four flags already exactly exactly Yeah,

946
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 4: excellent Sall right, thanks a lot for joining.

947
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 6: Always a pleasure, guys.

948
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: A lot of times i'm out about a lot of

949
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: fans will come up to me and say, Hey, is

950
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: players such and such as good at guys?

951
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: He sounds like on the radio? Is that guy's good as?

952
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: He sounds like I mean, is he as cool a

953
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: guy as you would think, And I mean I would

954
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 2: say ninety five percent of the time, I'm like, yeah,

955
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: there's maybe been a guy where I'm like, not, really,

956
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: those guys aren't on this team. Man. The guys that

957
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: we sit out a talk with, they are as good

958
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: a guys as you hear through the radio.

959
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: And darry Goombwale is exhibit a of all of them.

960
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: He is a better guy than he has a football player,

961
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: and he has been a tremendous impactful player since he

962
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: got back here in twenty twenty one.

963
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Darry A Goombalwally.

964
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: Okay, a lot going on around the league, Mini camps

965
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: taking place, guys talking, some guys in some cases not

966
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: saying anything, but still talking. I'm looking at you, Stefan Diggs.

967
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: We'll get all into that next we go around the NFL.

968
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: Right here in Texans All Access, we go on final

969
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: slave with this Wednesday edtion of Texans All Access sim.

970
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: Your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter.

971
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: For your Houston Texans Texans up mini camp today as

972
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: far as practices go, Tomorrow will be the family barbecue

973
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: for the guys, and then they're out, coaches out, so

974
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: it gets to be a quiet building for the next

975
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: how many ever weeks, except that Metallica is in the building,

976
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: so there's that, so it can only be so quiet.

977
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: But you get the point.

978
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: Over the next few weeks it'll be sort of quiet,

979
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: and then we will start training camp. Still wait on

980
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: the information to go public as to when training camp starts.

981
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: My guess is it's somewhere around at twenty.

982
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: Fifth ish, me sixth ish, somewhere in that area for

983
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: training camp. We know the Texans will practice with the

984
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: Panthers here and we'll practice with the Lions there.

985
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: But we'll see what else.

986
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: You got the three preseason games at Minnesota home against

987
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: Carolina and at Detroit before bye week, and then kicking

988
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: it off in LA for a regular season game with

989
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: the Rams. It's only the third game regular season in

990
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: LA now San Diego twenty thirteen and a few other

991
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: times before that, but in LA twenty seventeen against the

992
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: Rams at the Collie and.

993
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 3: Then getting beat by the Rams that was kind of ugly.

994
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: Then beat the Chargers of twenty nineteen in the Soccer Stadium,

995
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: which is one of my more fun days. Now I'll

996
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: remember that was a heck of a game against the Chargers.

997
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: In that second half. Jordan Akens were crazy with two

998
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: tuddies in that win over the LA Chargers. So this

999
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: would be the third regular season game in the history

1000
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: of the Texans in LA. One in one looking to

1001
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: go to and one. Well, we got a few weeks

1002
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: before we get there. NFL dot Com did a ranking

1003
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: of their top ten offenses in the NFL. The Texas

1004
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: will play a handful of these. At number one, this

1005
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: is as voted on by NFL dot Com Gennaro Gennaro

1006
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: Felice the Buffalo Bills. I'm not sure that I thought

1007
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: about the Bills in that way offensively, but you know,

1008
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: Josh Allen MVP, I get it.

1009
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: So we played the Bills.

1010
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: Number two the Tampa Bay Buccaneers played the Bucks. Seen

1011
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: him a couple of years ago. Number three the Baltimore Ravens.

1012
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: The Ravens are those three. That's the one offense that

1013
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: scares me, probably more than the other because of Lamar

1014
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: Jackson and Derreck Henry.

1015
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: Number four is Washington Commanders.

1016
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: That's to be expected with jayde and Daniels going into

1017
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: his second season.

1018
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: How good he was last year, don't play the Lions there.

1019
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: Number five.

1020
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: They were the number one team, number one offense. Last

1021
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: year they were ranked the number five. A lot of

1022
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: losses they have to deal with. Number six is a

1023
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: little bit surprised Texas will play this team. I think

1024
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: it's Week nine the Denver Broncos.

1025
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: Interesting. Number seven Philadelphia Eagles.

1026
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully we play them because that'll be me and wearing

1027
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: a super Bowl in Sant Clara. Eight.

1028
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 3: Packers saw them last year.

1029
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: I thought we did a pretty good job and even

1030
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: though the offense couldn't do anything, defense God to be

1031
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: out there all day. Both backup linebackers played in that

1032
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: game and still really kind of held the Packers in check.

1033
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: And if could have hang on, could have hung on

1034
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: to an interception in the fourth quarter, would have walked

1035
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: out of there the win either way. Bengals nine don't

1036
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: see them. We see him see him in the playoffs. Number

1037
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: ten to Kansas City Chiefs. So they're the top ten

1038
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: is according to NFL dot Com. Nick Chubb talked to

1039
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: the media today, and it's funny because every every year

1040
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: we get when players go up to the podium, we

1041
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: get transcripts, and when they send the transcripts, you can

1042
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: always tell when it's a Demico Ryans. You know he's

1043
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: been at the podium. You can tell when it's been CJ.

1044
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: Stroud because you've got these paragraphs. You just look at

1045
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 2: the transcripts of the press conference today was Derek Stingly,

1046
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb and Daniel Hunter. They don't say anything, say anything.

1047
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: They're great.

1048
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: I love them. I mean the Sting and Daniel or

1049
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 3: my dudes, man, I love them. They're great.

1050
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: And I love talking to Sting because I can get

1051
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 2: Staying to talk because I talk football and we talk

1052
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: ball and he'll he'll talk about that for a while.

1053
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: But they both talked with Nick. Chubb was up in

1054
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: front of the media today.

1055
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: Asked a number of different questions, but but one he

1056
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: was asked about was his message to the Browns fans.

1057
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: He said, I don't know. I'm sure I'll address that

1058
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: at some point. I'm not ready to do that now,

1059
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: but it'd be a great message. So you know, he's

1060
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: got a lot of love for the Browns fans and

1061
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: another Browns fans have a lot of love for him.

1062
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: But he was asked a lot about his injuries and

1063
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: he just said, look, those things are behind me.

1064
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm ready to go. This is an up and coming team.

1065
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: They've really turned it on, so I know I have

1066
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: a chance to come here and win a lot of games.

1067
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: Surrounded by great people. That is true.

1068
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb is a great person. Glad he is here.

1069
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: All right, It's gonna do it for tonight's show. Appreciate

1070
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: you guys being with me all night. Every forty five

1071
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: will take you through the rest of the evening. Thank

1072
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: you so much. We'll be back tomorrow with more on

1073
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: a Thursday Texas All Access episode.

1074
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: Seeing that everybody, and as always, go Texans.