Speaker 1: All right, So on today's episode, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: storm chasing, We're going to talk greatest college towns. We'll
Speaker 1: talk a little college football. We have Josh pat here,
Speaker 1: who is the college football guy. Unless you're Brandon Walker
Speaker 1: watching this now, he's still the college guy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So first I wanted to talk about the
Speaker 1: best college towns in America without giving you the list.
Speaker 1: And you've been I think practically to all the good ones.
Speaker 1: What comes to my top college towns?
Speaker 2: Athens, Georgia. I love State College, Pennsylvania. Now is this
Speaker 2: a list like a ranking?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to guess, or is it my I want
Speaker 3: just yours because you've been a lot of places.
Speaker 1: I have a list, but I don't want you to
Speaker 1: see the list before I go. Here are yours, and
Speaker 1: we give ours?
Speaker 2: Okay. I love Athens. I think if I were to
Speaker 2: have to take someone from another country who wants to
Speaker 2: see a college town on a game day, I would
Speaker 2: take them to Athens, Georgia. I think that's pretty quintessential. Now,
Speaker 2: you may hate Georgia, like you're a Florida fan or something,
Speaker 2: but I don't think if you could divorce yourself from
Speaker 2: that you could deny just the vibe of Athens. Knoxville's
Speaker 2: a bigger town, but I still think it is a really,
Speaker 2: really good college town if you're in the right spots.
Speaker 2: Tuscaloosa can be like that. I just mentioned State College,
Speaker 2: so Penn State. I was just up there this week,
Speaker 2: so kind of recency biased. Too cold, though not in
Speaker 2: August fair enough, So make sure you go up there
Speaker 2: with me early in the season. Have you been to Eugene,
Speaker 2: have you been to Oregon? Yes, so I think it's
Speaker 2: good for me, but I'm from the South. If I
Speaker 2: take some of my Southern buddies up there, it's really
Speaker 2: hit or miss, like they either kind of can get
Speaker 2: with that or they can't get with that. So that's
Speaker 2: kind of a conditional college town.
Speaker 1: So isolated. It is like I can find a reason
Speaker 1: to say everything is bad except Fanville. So just know
Speaker 1: that I'll find a reason to hate on everything. And
Speaker 1: Eugene's awesome. It's just so hard to get to if
Speaker 1: you're just going there for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're either southwest probably two stops to Eugene, or
Speaker 2: you're probably Portland and then an hour and a half
Speaker 2: down the coast and you're not really driving on the coast,
Speaker 2: so you don't get the scenery. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: like Eugene, Okay. The one that I haven't been to enough.
Speaker 2: I've only been to a game there once is Oxford.
Speaker 1: Oh this hurts. It's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1: You It feels like though, if you ever walk into
Speaker 1: like a Louis Bitton store or one of these luxury
Speaker 1: brand stores, how they look at you when you walk in,
Speaker 1: they kind of want to make you feel less than
Speaker 1: just to see if you're worthy. That's kind of what
Speaker 1: it feels like when you go and you're the opposing team,
Speaker 1: because you go out in the grove and everybody's fancy.
Speaker 1: It's like they wear two collars on their shirts that type. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: not toy one collar, they're wearing two. Or they're wearing
Speaker 1: the flip up you know how we used to do
Speaker 1: back in the day. So it's great though. So Oxford
Speaker 1: is fantastic because it's all built in. You did not
Speaker 1: mention Feteville, So I'd like to hear. Have you been
Speaker 1: to Fable, Arkansas?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. Very underrated, very underrated airport. By
Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, you gotta drive twenty minutes kind of
Speaker 2: ou in the middle of nowhere. But I remember, I
Speaker 2: remember X and A because we're right next to BNA.
Speaker 2: That's just a place where if I were to circle
Speaker 2: two of them, South Carolina and Arkansas is a place
Speaker 2: where if I could just snap my fingers in like
Speaker 2: a couple of places or better perennially at football, those
Speaker 2: would be the two, because I actually I would. Arkansas
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite places to go. I got
Speaker 2: to get storry about in a second, which I may
Speaker 2: have told you just about losing my vision up there
Speaker 2: because of the moonshine over not moonshine, something even more
Speaker 2: dangerous cold brew consumed in large quantities. I wish they
Speaker 2: were good. I know you're trying, like I know you're
Speaker 2: doing everything in your power. I wish that I had
Speaker 2: more reasons to go up to Arkansas. People will say
Speaker 2: all the time, why don't you come up here enough?
Speaker 1: Hey, you suck.
Speaker 2: We're going to the biggest games in the country every Saturday.
Speaker 2: The last one I could go to is when you
Speaker 2: guys played Cincinnati to open the season a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it hurts. We bought a house right next
Speaker 1: to the football stadium, but we bought it. You know,
Speaker 1: the market goes Mark goes down. I feel like we
Speaker 1: got a better deal in the house because we suck
Speaker 1: right now, which.
Speaker 2: I guess is one ray of sunshine. That's one way
Speaker 2: to look at it. As at least it moves the
Speaker 2: needle in one direction.
Speaker 4: People park in your yard like game day.
Speaker 1: Well, we haven't lived there during a game a season yet.
Speaker 1: Well I know, dude, there's the money to be made,
Speaker 1: but twenty bucks a car, But what do I care?
Speaker 1: I don't want to be parking in my yarda ugh,
Speaker 1: I would put And it doesn't really count because the
Speaker 1: city is so great. It just happens to have a
Speaker 1: college there, Austin Austin.
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to go.
Speaker 1: It's got a million residents. I know, it doesn't I
Speaker 1: hate the Longhorns, hate with every part of me, and
Speaker 1: I live with Longhorns and have friends that coach Longhorns.
Speaker 1: Growing up in Arkansas, we hate Texas. But Austin is
Speaker 1: freaking awesome. But it's not a college town. It's a
Speaker 1: city that has a college in it.
Speaker 2: Do you have any familiarity with Texas Tech?
Speaker 1: Meaning I know they head football coach.
Speaker 2: But do you know like, have you've been out there
Speaker 2: in the lubb.
Speaker 1: It but I haven't really experienced their island of Texas
Speaker 1: technis good.
Speaker 2: Way to put it. You haven't been to the island
Speaker 2: of Texas Technas.
Speaker 1: So I've played a show. I did stand up out
Speaker 1: there at theater, but I didn't really get to experience
Speaker 1: the Texas technis.
Speaker 2: That is one I would describe that, even more so
Speaker 2: than maybe how we describe Eugene of like people think Texas.
Speaker 2: If you're from Michigan and you've never been there, you think, oh,
Speaker 2: Texas is Texas. Austin and Lubbock are like Jupiter and Mars.
Speaker 2: They're like different planets. Culturally they could not be any
Speaker 2: more different. So that's another one. Like Lubbock, I love
Speaker 2: it because it reminds me a little bit of sort
Speaker 2: of the environment I grew up in rural Georgia. So
Speaker 2: you go out there, everyone's sleeves are rolled up, just
Speaker 2: literally and figuratively. It's kind of like an US against
Speaker 2: the World mentality. You feel like you're on the moon.
Speaker 2: It's six hours from the next biggest town, and if
Speaker 2: you're about that, it's awesome. If you're not about that,
Speaker 2: it's like, man, how soon can I get out of here?
Speaker 2: Since I'm about it? I love it. I took Savannah
Speaker 2: and my wife out there, and she had never been
Speaker 2: pretty much west of Dallas in the state of Texas before,
Speaker 2: and we took her out there this past year. They
Speaker 2: played Brigham Young game days there, like it's a huge day,
Speaker 2: so we'll go see Joey. We'll go out there the
Speaker 2: day before and I had her spend the forty eight hours.
Speaker 2: She couldn't shut up about it. She still hasn't shut
Speaker 2: up about it. We've gone out there again since then.
Speaker 2: And I think that's one that's a little off people's
Speaker 2: radars where if you just popped, hey, what do you
Speaker 2: think about Lubbock, Texas on them, it would kind of
Speaker 2: catch them off guard. It's like a little fist to
Speaker 2: the chin in the college town conversation that they don't
Speaker 2: see coming. But you go out there, man, it's a
Speaker 2: different world. You may not like it, but you may
Speaker 2: also love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: Could you just reveal bias that you are from Georgia
Speaker 1: and you just picked Georgia as your number one team? Like,
Speaker 1: I know where you're from. I was just gonna let
Speaker 1: that slide but I can't address it and said you
Speaker 1: didn't say it.
Speaker 2: Well, you can say I'm from Georgia. What I'm more
Speaker 2: interested in is Georgia being my number one team, because
Speaker 2: I said Athens was my number one town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying college towns though. Yeah, they said there's
Speaker 1: some bias there.
Speaker 2: There is. I don't know. Yes, you could say that,
Speaker 2: and I can't convince you of a counterfactual. I think
Speaker 2: I would say Athens if I were from you know,
Speaker 2: like Wichita Falls. I think Athens. If I'm going to
Speaker 2: list you the things I look for in college town,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing that's underrated. A little bit
Speaker 2: of terrain being baked in, like if it's not just flat.
Speaker 1: We went to Provo Eddie and I did a shoot
Speaker 1: with BYU. Yeah, what a freaking city.
Speaker 2: I've only flown over it.
Speaker 1: You're on the field, And when you say terrain, that's
Speaker 1: what it triggered, YEP, is that it's surrounded by snowcap mountains.
Speaker 2: It's like a screensaver basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and whatever they had Mormon's name is, he's up
Speaker 1: on the top of it doing this, and so you're
Speaker 1: just like, that's cool.
Speaker 2: That's great. So they played Notre Dame there this year, obviously,
Speaker 2: and that's the one where I'm looking at the few
Speaker 2: places I've never been. I've never seen a game at
Speaker 2: Brigham Young. I've never been to Provo. Maybe that's my shot,
Speaker 2: but I don't have it off the top of my head.
Speaker 2: But that's that Saturday. There are really two of them
Speaker 2: this year. They're just cram packed, and that's one of
Speaker 2: those Saturdays where you've got half a dozen games that
Speaker 2: may qualify as the biggest game on any given other Saturday.
Speaker 2: So crossed we can get out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I have guilt about our Provo trip
Speaker 1: because we go and we're hanging out. Everybody's so nice
Speaker 1: to us, you know, the coach is awesome, and we're
Speaker 1: going to go and work out with some of the
Speaker 1: players and they're like, what jerseys do you want? And Eddie,
Speaker 1: what number did you get?
Speaker 4: I don't remember, like seventeen or something.
Speaker 1: Now I remember remember where at b Yu. Huh what
Speaker 1: number should I not ask for?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't ask for Jim at Mann's number.
Speaker 1: Let's think you're twelve years old. Immature more than that, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the most immature number you could possibly ask for
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't ask for at a school that's.
Speaker 2: Built on sounds like an offensive lineman number. Yeah, probably
Speaker 2: in the upper sixties. Yeah, and everyone rolls their eyes
Speaker 2: and you did.
Speaker 1: It like an idiot. And I regret it. And I
Speaker 1: don't regret anything in my life. I've learned from many mistakes.
Speaker 1: But once I started looking at pictures and the video
Speaker 1: of it, I hated me because I wore the number
Speaker 1: sixty nine at BYU. It was just bad. It is bad.
Speaker 1: I don't like me for that, and so that's my regret.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a pregnant pause to let it sizzle.
Speaker 2: So you are what age right now?
Speaker 1: Forty six?
Speaker 2: You are a forty six year old successful man. And
Speaker 2: if you're speaking to a college class right now and
Speaker 2: someone raises their hand, mister bones, excuse me, mister bones.
Speaker 2: What is your biggest regret in life? You're gonna go, well, Chad.
Speaker 2: I went to Provo one time and they asked me
Speaker 2: what jersey I want and I went sixty.
Speaker 1: Nine, Chad.
Speaker 2: Other than that has been a pretty good life, brother.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the answer. Yeah, it used to be
Speaker 1: when I got fined a million bucks by the FCC.
Speaker 2: That's distant memory.
Speaker 1: That's too. Number one is picking number sixty nine at
Speaker 1: a religious school because it was stupid. It was so stupid.
Speaker 4: They're so nice over there that I don't even think
Speaker 4: they realized what he did.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good theory.
Speaker 1: I think that's interesting.
Speaker 4: Great number.
Speaker 1: You don't think they knew, They didn't know what that meant.
Speaker 1: Hasn't got there? Yeah yeah, so I deeply regret.
Speaker 2: Has it got there? As it got there? It has now.
Speaker 1: I traveled through the top five from Business Insider, are
Speaker 1: at number five, Tallahassee, Florida at Florida State.
Speaker 2: To do that, Wait, wait did they list the criteria
Speaker 2: out of curious?
Speaker 1: Yeah they did, so these are the best college towns
Speaker 1: where culture, lifestyle, local college economy, population, and they also
Speaker 1: factor in how well known is the college. Right, So
Speaker 1: at five was Florida State. Eddie and I played a
Speaker 1: concert in Florida State in the in the football stadium
Speaker 1: and before you go, wow, that's cool, they had the
Speaker 1: stage facing like only the end zone. Yes we really playing,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we played toward the We don't say that details.
Speaker 2: That's all it counts.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic.
Speaker 4: And that same time I try to sneak into a
Speaker 4: frat party that night.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you did, dude, this might be worse
Speaker 1: than sixty nine.
Speaker 2: They did not let me in continue that, and you
Speaker 2: know what, it was parents weekend, So I thought I
Speaker 2: had a chance, Like okay, and this was what how
Speaker 2: many years?
Speaker 1: We got another dad over here? Seven or eight years ago?
Speaker 4: Years ago? So I'm like you, me and another buddy,
Speaker 4: We're like, all right, let's see we can get in
Speaker 4: and they're like, no.
Speaker 2: Getting in here?
Speaker 4: Like all right?
Speaker 1: At number four, Gainesville, Florida, No problem with that. It's
Speaker 1: because they haven't been good though in a while, like
Speaker 1: consistently good. That didn't it didn't factor into yours, all right?
Speaker 2: Uh No, it's I just didn't do a comprehensive list. Gainesville.
Speaker 2: I would have eventually gotten to Auburn, Alabama really good one.
Speaker 2: Auburn's excellent. I actually Auburn would be way up there,
Speaker 2: possibly top five. I like, going, is Auburn on there? No?
Speaker 1: Not in the top ten to me, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know how this is no shot at FSU. The way
Speaker 2: I would list the criteria for great college town, I
Speaker 2: have no idea how Tallahassee Florida is above like Auburn
Speaker 2: or Athens. I grew up within close proximity to those.
Speaker 2: You could say that's biased, that's fine, but like those
Speaker 2: two places are pretty awesome to me.
Speaker 4: That frat party looked awesome.
Speaker 1: Dude, from the door, it looks you know what the
Speaker 1: best part about going to Auburn was there's a gas
Speaker 1: station near the university where you take your stuff and
Speaker 1: you just put it on the counter and automatically reads
Speaker 1: the price. That was Tallahassee. No, that was Auburn. It
Speaker 1: was Yeah, it was Auburn because that's where the Charles
Speaker 1: Barkley statue is. OK, and of everything that we did,
Speaker 1: because we went in played ball there and shot some stuff,
Speaker 1: and they had a gas station that that knew the
Speaker 1: price of a banana by just me putting it on
Speaker 1: the counter.
Speaker 2: I don't even know about that place. And I'm from there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll give you. I'll give you a detail.
Speaker 1: So Number three Charlottesville, Virginia, University of Virginia, never been
Speaker 1: it's it's so clean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds clean.
Speaker 1: It's so clean. Number two is Arizona State Tempa Arizona.
Speaker 2: Love it, yeah, love it.
Speaker 1: We went to Arizona State.
Speaker 4: We went to Arizonazona.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a different vibe. Yeah, the Arizona vibe is
Speaker 1: different than Arizona State vibe.
Speaker 2: Do you mean like maybe one's a little little dirtier, grittier,
Speaker 2: and the other one's a little.
Speaker 1: More Arizona stream, more maserati. Yeah, Arizona straight Corolla.
Speaker 2: We were late. Yeah, fair enough, say no more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had number one. I've never been here An Arbor,
Speaker 1: Michigan University of Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different in a sense that they are good.
Speaker 2: They know they're good. They make no apologies about acknowledging
Speaker 2: that they're good. But if that's okay with you, it's
Speaker 2: a little more sweater vest crowd, then maybe I'm used
Speaker 2: to growing up in the South. It is a quintessential
Speaker 2: college town experience. Though, they are right about that. That's
Speaker 2: a good one. I probably wouldn't have rattled that one
Speaker 2: off because I've gone for the Ohio State game, so
Speaker 2: I've just been totally zoned in on the game when
Speaker 2: I've been there. That is a good one.
Speaker 1: Though, have you ever seen him at he hit US
Speaker 1: soft ball?
Speaker 4: I would imagine he just smacks the crap out of it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, like he's jackshit. He obviously works out and
Speaker 1: takes care of his body, and like I respect that.
Speaker 1: And still though it's different the physiology to hit a
Speaker 1: softball than it is just a bench press a lot,
Speaker 1: it's unreal. He does the thing where he walks up
Speaker 1: and swings and walks back to the dugout. It's just
Speaker 1: a safe time. What do you mean of all the
Speaker 1: content he does? And I'm a fan of Josh because
Speaker 1: he created his own lane. Like to me, I'm a
Speaker 1: massive do your own thing if you can, even if
Speaker 1: you can't, like figure out how to patch it together
Speaker 1: and make it work. Like to me, that's the Josh
Speaker 1: paid story is like he did it himself. But the
Speaker 1: second thing is he hits a softball a mile And
Speaker 1: when he posts content, that's my favorite thing.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do a lot of great but it's
Speaker 1: when he posts on story he'll be like yeah, like
Speaker 1: he'll put a ball with like a rocket on it.
Speaker 1: He'll just walk up gone, he walks right back to
Speaker 1: the dugout. So wow, how does that feel to just
Speaker 1: be an athletic monster out on that field?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, conditionally, now like we are talking about Smirnit
Speaker 2: Tennessee on a Friday night.
Speaker 1: That ball goes out anywhere. The balls I see you hit,
Speaker 1: they go out it in any park.
Speaker 2: It's fun. I love hitting, like hitting athletically, whether it's
Speaker 2: baseball or softball. Outside of working out, That's always been
Speaker 2: my favorite thing I play. I didn't play basketball, but
Speaker 2: I've played most of the other sports growing up. I
Speaker 2: played basketball growing up, but I just didn't like it.
Speaker 2: But of all the things that you could do repetitively
Speaker 2: in sports, hitting like when you hit good, it's a
Speaker 2: really really good feeling. Love it.
Speaker 1: Will you be able to send us a video because
Speaker 1: when we clip this, I want to make sure we
Speaker 1: have a video of you launching a ball.
Speaker 2: I think I can round one up.
Speaker 1: Dude, you've seen athletic feats until you've seen Josh Payton
Speaker 1: Smart of Tennessee on a Wednesday night six thirty game.
Speaker 2: Hey whatever, now whatever, this.
Speaker 4: Is the league you're in, that you're in a softball.
Speaker 2: I love it. I do some absurd things that end
Speaker 2: up costing a lot of money logistically of travel wise,
Speaker 2: so I could play in that Friday night league. I
Speaker 2: love playing softball.
Speaker 1: Do you ever not hit a home run?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, plenty of times. Three home run limit per game.
Speaker 1: Do you get all three though?
Speaker 3: On your team, I'd say most of the time, if
Speaker 3: someone's gonna hit three, yeah, not all the time though,
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I'm not the only one on the
Speaker 3: team who could hit one out. Oh but you're by
Speaker 3: the guy that hit the farthest right when you count,
Speaker 3: the same goes in the crew one with a shot.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a philosophy. Yeah, one time, long time ago,
Speaker 2: when I had stopped playing baseball and I started playing softball.
Speaker 2: They're all kind of unwritten rules and float pitch softball.
Speaker 2: Anyone who's played the game for any length of time
Speaker 2: knows that if you're playing in a certain caliber of
Speaker 2: that sport, like travel ball, it's all former minor league
Speaker 2: baseball players, you can hit the ball up the middle.
Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want to if it's a
Speaker 2: if it's a caliber below that, guys who are playing
Speaker 2: for fun church league, they're doing it one night a week.
Speaker 2: Like there are people well over fifty years old in
Speaker 2: some cases on these fields don't be hitting the ball
Speaker 2: up the middle. I didn't know that, so I hit
Speaker 2: a guy in the net, like just next to his
Speaker 2: throat one time. I knew him. He's like a friend
Speaker 2: of mine. And he fell and it makes that like
Speaker 2: a kind of a smack sound against his neck, and
Speaker 2: I was terrified. Fortunately he didn't get hurt bad. But
Speaker 2: if it hit him in like the esophagus, I have
Speaker 2: no idea what would have happened. I have not hit
Speaker 2: the ball up the middle again since then. That was
Speaker 2: in know, maybe twenty ten. That's at least fifteen sixteen
Speaker 2: years ago, so I don't but I see it happen.
Speaker 2: We had a guy, I kid you not, man, this
Speaker 2: is a serious story. I played with a buddy in
Speaker 2: a tournament Manchester, Georgia, and we're playing outfield and it's
Speaker 2: we're in like our fifth game of the day and
Speaker 2: he is playing left field. So guy hits a ball
Speaker 2: and he's my buddy is going to get under this ball.
Speaker 2: He's camped and he knows, all right, I'm good, I
Speaker 2: can cut off sprinting. He turns around and he's kind
Speaker 2: of like coasting in a backpedal, catches the ball, trips
Speaker 2: over his foot a little bit, sling shots himself into
Speaker 2: the fence. This field had like light poles built into
Speaker 2: the fence, which is dangerous. His head just so happened
Speaker 2: to hit one of those poles flush against the pole,
Speaker 2: knocked unconscious. It had seizures right there on the field
Speaker 2: in front of me. They had to land a life
Speaker 2: flight helicopter on the field in Manchester, Yeah, and airlift
Speaker 2: him down to Columbus, which is like forty five minutes
Speaker 2: south of Manchester. I mean, he was never quite the
Speaker 2: same again, gos like, he's terrifying. I'd never seen anything
Speaker 2: like that happen before.
Speaker 1: Were you a basher when you played baseball in high school?
Speaker 2: In my junior and senior year, I got to where
Speaker 2: I could hit like that, but I never touched weights
Speaker 2: until my sophomore year. So, I mean I first worked
Speaker 2: out in tenth grade, and they had a rule. I
Speaker 2: went to Harris County High School in west central Georgia.
Speaker 2: There's a rule in there, which is probably a good rule,
Speaker 2: that you can't be working out in the general population
Speaker 2: until you can bench, power clean, and squat one hundred
Speaker 2: pounds each, like that's the minimum threshold. So I could
Speaker 2: not power clean or bench one hundred pounds. So I
Speaker 2: had to work out with the girls for a little
Speaker 2: while in a separate workout group when you used to
Speaker 2: still have co ed weight training. And then I finally
Speaker 2: graduated up. So I started from whatever the bottom is.
Speaker 2: I started below the bottom on strength raining. But then
Speaker 2: I was like so underdeveloped that it was like leaps
Speaker 2: and bounds. Once I finally learned to eat and lift
Speaker 2: halfway properly, so like junior and senior year, Yeah, I could.
Speaker 2: I just wish that I had been at a serious
Speaker 2: place that made me work out, because unfortunately I was
Speaker 2: not then mentally like I am now. No one needs
Speaker 2: to tell me to do it now. Back then you
Speaker 2: had to drag me in the weight room and like
Speaker 2: make me do it because I just didn't have the
Speaker 2: mental discipline.
Speaker 1: Edy, you'll be freaking out of your shoes when you
Speaker 1: see him hit a ball. Wait to see you know,
Speaker 1: I have all the things, and he's built his own empire.
Speaker 1: It's hitting us off ball that I'm there.
Speaker 2: You go, hang tight.
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back
Speaker 5: on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1: I do want to talk stormchasing for a second. Why
Speaker 1: do you do that? Do you have a background in weather?
Speaker 2: Yeah? My background is the year's nineteen ninety six twister
Speaker 2: comes out the movie. Yes, I go to see the movie.
Speaker 1: I go to see it.
Speaker 4: That was awesome.
Speaker 2: And that's my background.
Speaker 1: See just what fascinated two things?
Speaker 2: All right? So Twister came out in ninety six. I
Speaker 2: was a kid. I think that in Titanic and weirdly
Speaker 2: a Denzel Washington movie called Deja Vu. Those are the
Speaker 2: only movies I saw in theaters three times. So that's
Speaker 2: how fascinated I was by Twister. Also, I only watched
Speaker 2: Sports Center in the Weather Channel at my MEMM's house
Speaker 2: growing up. That's how I learned my geography. That's how
Speaker 2: I learned my stats. That's how I learned everything that
Speaker 2: I knew about the world was Sports Center and the
Speaker 2: Weather Channel. And then when Twister came out, like I
Speaker 2: was gobsmacked by it because I'm in that really really adventurous,
Speaker 2: nothing's impossible sort of stage of childhood. And then I
Speaker 2: found out I already have a fascination with atmospheric science
Speaker 2: from watching Weather Channel all the time. There are people
Speaker 2: who do this recreationally, like there are people who go
Speaker 2: out and do that. Maybe one day you can even
Speaker 2: make money on it. Then you fast forward all these
Speaker 2: years later and it's a whole industry. It's an industry
Speaker 2: of content creation, but it's also an industry of You
Speaker 2: could be out there for scientific reasons, you could be
Speaker 2: working on government grant money. But there are people out
Speaker 2: in the field now. And the best way I can
Speaker 2: describe it for the ninety nine percent of people watching
Speaker 2: this who smartly will never put themselves in close proximity
Speaker 2: to a tornado is if you picture the adrenaline mixture
Speaker 2: of like being at the very top of a roller
Speaker 2: coaster as it starts to go down, and if you
Speaker 2: mix that with sex, and if you mix that with
Speaker 2: being in a haunted house right as someone jumps out
Speaker 2: to scare you. If you mix those three feelings, that's
Speaker 2: what stormchasing feels like. In the peak moments. That's what
Speaker 2: it feels like. It's unbelievable. It's not for everyone. It's
Speaker 2: for almost no one. But if you're like a little
Speaker 2: twisted and it doesn't like that meter that's supposed to
Speaker 2: go off inside of you that says don't do that
Speaker 2: doesn't exist, and it doesn't exist in me, it's incredible.
Speaker 2: There's nothing else like it. I do it every spring.
Speaker 2: That's why I cover college football for a living.
Speaker 1: You had one turn on you and come back at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. March third, twenty nineteen, we were done in Beauregard, Alabama.
Speaker 2: Twenty three people ended up dying within a quarter mile
Speaker 2: radius of where we were. And it's a big EF
Speaker 2: four tornado. This is near Auburn. Actually it's between Auburn
Speaker 2: and Columbus. We were having to do what is called
Speaker 2: core punching, which is where you're not where you're supposed
Speaker 2: to be, so you're having to attack the thing from
Speaker 2: the north. Normally, when you're attacking tornadic supercell from the north,
Speaker 2: you got to go through a hail core. In a
Speaker 2: big rain core, you want to be south of it.
Speaker 2: It's clear, normally you can see things from the south
Speaker 2: of it, and so we thought we'd have time to
Speaker 2: core punch it. But it's moving northeast about sixty miles
Speaker 2: an hour. We're going south, you know, so it's coming
Speaker 2: this way, and I realized we don't have time, but
Speaker 2: I realized really late. So we you turn it right
Speaker 2: as that thing crosses in front of where we would
Speaker 2: have been, and then we were the first ones to
Speaker 2: come in on the back side of it. Destruction like
Speaker 2: I had never seen before. You had fatalities. First responders
Speaker 2: aren't there yet. This is like the most most terrible
Speaker 2: environment imaginable.
Speaker 1: How close were you to doing that instead of doing
Speaker 1: college football?
Speaker 2: I'm still close now to doing it.
Speaker 1: No, but now you've built you're a college football guy.
Speaker 1: But to be in camp toward junior how close were
Speaker 1: you to doing that?
Speaker 2: No, I'm still close. Now you're doing it. I'm dead serious.
Speaker 2: I mean, you and I are. So just think about this, Okay,
Speaker 2: if you and I were talking in nineteen ninety six, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you pretty much have to exist in a lane, just
Speaker 2: the way that's the way the media industry, the entertainment
Speaker 2: industry worked twenty twenty six. You just don't have to
Speaker 2: think like that. So, yes, college football will always be
Speaker 2: the core of what I do. But if you start
Speaker 2: to be successful there, and then your company starts to
Speaker 2: scale and you got all kinds of different opportunities and
Speaker 2: financially you're not nearly as strapped as you used to be,
Speaker 2: there's room to pursue all kinds of different projects. That's
Speaker 2: always been one that's been right there on the shelf.
Speaker 2: I've had the concept. I've just been waiting to be
Speaker 2: able to BANKRLL it because I don't really like borrowing
Speaker 2: money from people, so I've been waiting until I can,
Speaker 2: and we can do it now. I mean truthfully, I
Speaker 2: tell you this because I know we're doing it, because
Speaker 2: we've already been like six months down the road on it.
Speaker 2: So it's not necessarily maybe something i'd be the face of,
Speaker 2: like I'm built for college football, but I think there's
Speaker 2: a huge, huge, untapped market still for what we're talking
Speaker 2: about out there.
Speaker 1: What did you think of the sequel?
Speaker 4: Is that Twisters?
Speaker 2: It is good? Good title, too obvious, very good, very
Speaker 2: good title. Yeah, I thought it was good for what
Speaker 2: it was. I thought that it was such a missed
Speaker 2: opportunity to not have more callback to the first Twister,
Speaker 2: Like there's so many layups. The last scene in Twister,
Speaker 2: the original spoiler alert spoiler very important spoiler alert. As
Speaker 2: we as we come up on the thirtieth anniversary important
Speaker 2: spoiler alert.
Speaker 1: It's Bill and just Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton. They
Speaker 1: get back together.
Speaker 2: They're they're probably getting covered in rass sewage. Something's raining
Speaker 2: down on them, some kind of pie his burst and
Speaker 2: then credit troll and we don't know what happens after that.
Speaker 2: It would have been so easy thirty years later to
Speaker 2: just incorporate the concept that maybe they had kids, maybe
Speaker 2: they ended up together. Because the unfortunate part was by
Speaker 2: the time Twisters comes out, Bill Paxton has passed away,
Speaker 2: Philip Seymour Hoffman has passed away. Like there were central
Speaker 2: figures of the original movie. You can't incorporate anymore, but
Speaker 2: you can instill. You can still incorporate themes from it,
Speaker 2: and they didn't. So it was a good movie. I
Speaker 2: just thought there was so much left on the table,
Speaker 2: which so they're not related, they're not really.
Speaker 1: No, Like if you saw the Tornado though, was the
Speaker 1: son of the Tornado from Twitter that you need me
Speaker 1: to lead you there? If you just wipe through the credit,
Speaker 1: you would have seen that you saw the old Tornado
Speaker 1: talking to the young Tornado, like, yeah, you made me proud.
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe that's what we cover in Twisters is maybe
Speaker 2: that's what they cover.
Speaker 1: Hey, Loki, Helen Hunt, underrated babe of back in our Day.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. I just watched What Women Want
Speaker 2: the other night. I think there's a conversation to be had.
Speaker 1: I think that she doesn't get the credit she deserves.
Speaker 1: Even I have to be reminded of it, but she
Speaker 1: was for a teenage kid who like to be alone.
Speaker 1: She was awesome, like even mad about you. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean, Paul Riser Man, what, I don't have
Speaker 1: anything in my eye.
Speaker 2: There's a conversation to be had, I think because this
Speaker 2: as a kid, this is how I viewed Helen Hunt.
Speaker 2: There I would watch if I watched National Lampoon's Vacation
Speaker 2: and I see Christy Brinkley, that is not obtainable. Obviously
Speaker 2: I'm a kid and she's a full grown adult. But
Speaker 2: I think to myself, no, people like me don't grow
Speaker 2: up to marry people like Christy Brinkley. Helen Hunt had
Speaker 2: an obtainability about her.
Speaker 4: It's like she lives next door.
Speaker 1: Yes, possible, Gilligan's Island.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's like you could conceptualize it.
Speaker 1: At least it's it's the Gilligan's Island. It's why people
Speaker 1: because there was marionn Yeah, skipper too, this conversation with
Speaker 1: a skipper. You can have a skipper, but you know,
Speaker 1: the girl next door was the one that most people
Speaker 1: like related to. I just searched underrated babes in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Come on, Parker Posey oh yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dayson confused come on?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And also she was not nineties but white lotus as
Speaker 1: an older lady. Yeah, still had the.
Speaker 4: Yeah still hot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't say that what I wanted. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to say that, but I still had.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Also Robin Tunney.
Speaker 4: I don't know that is.
Speaker 2: Remind me who that is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, same, let's google immager.
Speaker 2: Not a good idea. Not a good day for Robin.
Speaker 1: I know she's watching, Okay, I remember do you remember
Speaker 1: Robin Tunny?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would have known the face a lot
Speaker 2: of these I'll know the face of I may not.
Speaker 1: What was she on Robin Tunny? You would know her
Speaker 1: from things such as Empire Records and Sino Man. I
Speaker 1: think she was the main girl in in Sino Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: musically Fiona Apple Ah, she was the man talk about
Speaker 1: strung out hot is what kind of that? And then
Speaker 1: she was always too A lot going on? What was
Speaker 1: going on in her head?
Speaker 2: A lot going on?
Speaker 1: And then another one was I don't know who this is.
Speaker 1: Carrie wore her she's from Anaconda and Sliders. I gotta
Speaker 1: look her up.
Speaker 2: Ka r I she took a back seat if she
Speaker 2: was in anaconda. W h why, I mean, that's the
Speaker 2: snake nearly peaked j Lo. That's post Selena j Loo.
Speaker 2: That's Jlo when she she's rolling at that point.
Speaker 1: Ever, was a Jlo guy.
Speaker 2: I didn't say you couldn't hit mute. I didn't say
Speaker 2: you had to consume the film a certain way. And granted,
Speaker 2: the snake did a great job in the movie, but
Speaker 2: I thought jo.
Speaker 1: The snake was an oscar that went to lead actor
Speaker 1: would be the snake in your story. To me is
Speaker 1: extremely inspiring because of kind of how it started. Let's
Speaker 1: act like I don't know it. How did this Josh
Speaker 1: Pate get to because you're just big and famous now,
Speaker 1: but you weren't. You were just working local.
Speaker 2: Right before media, I was just working in warehouses and
Speaker 2: construction sites. Because I came out of high school. I
Speaker 2: was like a tweener where you don't grow up broke,
Speaker 2: but you're closer to broke than wealthy, because when we
Speaker 2: couldn't even spell wealthy. But you're not growing up in
Speaker 2: your back against the wall. You're not some impoverished kid
Speaker 2: who knows I got to make it or my family
Speaker 2: screwed it. Wasn't quite like that, so I didn't really
Speaker 2: know what I wanted to do. When I graduated high
Speaker 2: school in Georgia, they have the lottery thing, the Hope Scholarship.
Speaker 2: If you have a B average, you get a couple
Speaker 2: of semesters paid for. So I did that, ended up
Speaker 2: dropping out of school because I had no direction. I
Speaker 2: had no idea what I wanted to do. I was
Speaker 2: failing classes, so I just got in construction heating, in
Speaker 2: air installation. I was working in a fabric warehouse for
Speaker 2: several years, and I was just listening to sports talk
Speaker 2: radio every day. And I'm early twenties by that point,
Speaker 2: approaching mid twenties, Like, still no idea what I want
Speaker 2: to do, And I just remember so vividly. Nick Saban
Speaker 2: got hired at Baman in O seven. He came to Columbus.
Speaker 2: He spoke in Columbus, and I borrowed forty five dollars
Speaker 2: so I didn't have any money to go. And he
Speaker 2: spoke that night about some stuff that wasn't revolutionary. Like
Speaker 2: clearly the message had been disseminated before Sabin said it
Speaker 2: that night, but I had never had it click with me,
Speaker 2: the idea of how to properly set goals, how to
Speaker 2: put the goals to decide, how to engage in process
Speaker 2: oriented thinking, how to inventory your time and convert time
Speaker 2: spent into time invested. I'm just like mind blown. It's
Speaker 2: just a higher level of thinking that I never knew existed.
Speaker 2: So I knew, Man, you got to either make a decision.
Speaker 2: It's the Tracy Chapman kind of lyrically like, we got
Speaker 2: to make a decison or live and die this way. That's
Speaker 2: kind of how it was. And so your mid twenties,
Speaker 2: you realize you're not a kid anymore. You look around
Speaker 2: and there's so many people if you grow up in
Speaker 2: a small town anywhere in this country, there's so many
Speaker 2: people who have never left. And there's not anything wrong
Speaker 2: with that, but you can kind of sense like an
Speaker 2: aura of what could have been, maybe even an aura
Speaker 2: of regret. And you know you're about to become another
Speaker 2: one of those. And so I got my act together,
Speaker 2: and I know I've got talent to do something. And
Speaker 2: I know I love sports talk radio, I love sports media.
Speaker 2: I consume college football year round. I love it. I'm
Speaker 2: immersed in it. Could I ever do this for a living?
Speaker 2: So I'm just like beaten down the door of the
Speaker 2: local radio affiliate, the ESPN radio affiliate in Columbus. It
Speaker 2: was WIOL fifteen eighty the zone in Columbus. So the
Speaker 2: program director just let me come in to observe, which
Speaker 2: is all I wanted to do. Truthfully, I was not
Speaker 2: begging to be put on air at all. I wanted
Speaker 2: to come in and like, if I could sit in
Speaker 2: the corner and here right now and observe pre deduction happening.
Speaker 2: I'd never seen it before, so I went in there.
Speaker 2: I did that for like a month or two. Maybe.
Speaker 2: One morning it's during football season. His co host calls in,
Speaker 2: can't make it in. It's like five minutes to airtime.
Speaker 2: Last minute, I'm out, So he has no time for
Speaker 2: a backup plan, and he just threw me on area said,
Speaker 2: do you want to hop on air today?
Speaker 1: That's the fantasy. It's awesome. I didn't know how awesome
Speaker 1: it was that day, but you were terrified of that.
Speaker 2: I really wasn't no time. If he would have given
Speaker 2: me a day, I would have been terrified.
Speaker 1: He gave me five minutes.
Speaker 2: So I do the show. It's awesome, man. It's afternoon
Speaker 2: drive caller based radio in the South during football season.
Speaker 2: It's a layup. It's like it's easy, and it was
Speaker 2: so natural. So after we got done with the show,
Speaker 2: he because the program director was also the host of
Speaker 2: the show, he asked, where have you worked before? So
Speaker 2: I'd never worked before, But he thought I was lying
Speaker 2: when I said I'd never worked anywhere before. Because if
Speaker 2: you go back to the Sabans thing from a few
Speaker 2: years earlier, Saban talked about defining your goals and then
Speaker 2: converting some of the time you're spending aka waste during
Speaker 2: your day to time invested, so repurpose that time to
Speaker 2: align with your goal. My goal was I wanted to
Speaker 2: do this for a living. I realized, I'm driving around
Speaker 2: in my truck sixty to ninety minutes per day just
Speaker 2: listening to music, which is fine, but I'm not getting
Speaker 2: anything out of that. How do I invest that time?
Speaker 2: The way I invested it was I just simulated sports
Speaker 2: talk radio. I would turn on Mike and Mike or
Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd or someone, let them begin a segment, and
Speaker 2: then hit mute and I'd pick it up where they
Speaker 2: left off. Did it for a year and a half
Speaker 2: to two years, not knowing that it was going to
Speaker 2: lead to one day me just being thrown on air
Speaker 2: like that was my big break. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: it was coming. The morning I woke up, the dude
Speaker 2: thought I had done it for a living because I
Speaker 2: had gotten hundreds of hours of reps just doing it
Speaker 2: my truck. So I never get taken off air, and
Speaker 2: I do radio for a couple of years, then local
Speaker 2: TV calls and I do local sports and doing my
Speaker 2: own local college football show. That becomes being their news
Speaker 2: anchor for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, you were the news anchor from sitting
Speaker 1: in and just being able to hop on the air
Speaker 1: right even that if the story ends right there, what
Speaker 1: a story that is?
Speaker 2: That's what I said at the time of story.
Speaker 1: That you Yeah, you're the news anchor. Yeah, but you're
Speaker 1: doing Did you like doing news? No?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't like doing news because it's it's news.
Speaker 1: Was it going to raise from sports to the anchor though?
Speaker 1: Is that why you took the job?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I went from I went from twenty
Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars a year twenty four thousand dollars a
Speaker 2: year to thirty thousand dollars a year to anchor news,
Speaker 2: which if you're not making any money, is a lot
Speaker 2: of money. But that's that's about eleven or twelve years ago.
Speaker 2: That's where we are on the timeline right now, and
Speaker 2: that's when it all started to happen, because that's when
Speaker 2: podcasting is really starting to become a thing. That's when
Speaker 2: Facebook Live becomes a thing. That's when YouTube live becomes
Speaker 2: a thing. So, as you well know, if you were
Speaker 2: in our industry up to that point, if you were
Speaker 2: ever gonna do any kind of national anything, you had
Speaker 2: to have massive overhead and distribution. You had to have
Speaker 2: someone with the keys to really really fancy production facilities,
Speaker 2: and you had to have a syndication.
Speaker 1: Deal, yeah, the gatekeepers.
Speaker 2: You had to be on network like that was it.
Speaker 2: And in my world of sports media, if you're not
Speaker 2: from Syracuse J School or Northwestern Missouri, chances are you're
Speaker 2: not going to make it. So to that point in time,
Speaker 2: it just looked like a dead end to me. And
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, then all those barriers just break down,
Speaker 2: like Berlin Wall's coming down, and you realize, if YouTube
Speaker 2: live is going to be a thing, that means distribution's
Speaker 2: the Internet, and that means overheads in your hand, because
Speaker 2: theoretically you could just go live from anywhere. So I
Speaker 2: started doing a college football show. I would literally go
Speaker 2: in the control room because it looks fancy after the newscasts,
Speaker 2: and I would set up my phone, I would go
Speaker 2: live and I would just start doing it in the
Speaker 2: last for two weeks and management at the TV station said,
Speaker 2: you can't do that. That's a brieki.
Speaker 1: You wagged a finger in the face.
Speaker 2: So I had to wait a whole year until my
Speaker 2: contract was up, and they wanted to renew me and
Speaker 2: bump me to thirty five per year, and I said, no,
Speaker 2: not if I can't do this, because like, my future
Speaker 2: clearly is not being a news anchor. My future is
Speaker 2: doing this, and they thought I was bluffing. So he
Speaker 2: get to the last day of my contract and they
Speaker 2: called me news director and GM called me into the
Speaker 2: office and said, are you going to sign the contract
Speaker 2: or not. I was like, I already told you know,
Speaker 2: and they said, but what are you going to do?
Speaker 2: They thought I was going to a rival station, That's
Speaker 2: what they thought. And I said, no, I told you
Speaker 2: what I'm going to do. I'm going to start a
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. And their first words to me were, but
Speaker 2: what are you going to do for money? Because this
Speaker 2: is twenty fifteen. No one's monetizing YouTube At that point.
Speaker 2: It was a foreign concept, but you could tell it
Speaker 2: was coming. I thought it was coming like it was
Speaker 2: easy to see where the industry was going to go.
Speaker 2: So we arrived in an agreement where I would stay
Speaker 2: on to be their news anchor, but work as an
Speaker 2: independent contractor making far less. But the trade off, which
Speaker 2: was gold, was they'll give me the studio for three
Speaker 2: nights per week to produce anything I want to out
Speaker 2: of it on my channels.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So we started doing the college football show and it
Speaker 2: took a few years for us to grow it, but
Speaker 2: then it really blew up. In twenty nineteen, Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: in LSU season, it really blows up. CBS sees it
Speaker 2: and calls me and they offered me a job. I
Speaker 2: moved to Nashville right before twenty twenty. I start a
Speaker 2: new channel from scratch, but under their umbrella, COVID sets
Speaker 2: in world of sports go dark. Everybody who has a
Speaker 2: sports show starts talking about things they have no business
Speaker 2: talking about. I stuck to college football a bunch of
Speaker 2: alienated audiences came to our show because we just talked
Speaker 2: about college football. Shows scaled immediately. Executives come back to
Speaker 2: work eight months later and realized, Wow, this show is
Speaker 2: already making money. Don't touch it, leave it alone. So ironically,
Speaker 2: because of COVID, we got to do the show the
Speaker 2: way we wanted to, instead of having a lot of
Speaker 2: corporate hands in the kitchen. And we proved the concept
Speaker 2: really quickly, and I got a new contract one year in.
Speaker 2: I got a new contract another year in after that,
Speaker 2: and really it came time to negotiate ownership of IP,
Speaker 2: ownership of assets because I knew, I mean, the show
Speaker 2: is blown up. By twenty twenty three, it had already
Speaker 2: since blown up. And I knew, if I go one
Speaker 2: more contract, I'll make a lot of money, but I
Speaker 2: will never own this. And I went back and forth
Speaker 2: with CBS, because CBS offered me an astronomical amount of
Speaker 2: money to just sign a five year deal, and I
Speaker 2: said no, and I countered with a number that was
Speaker 2: far less but also included ownership of my channels and
Speaker 2: my feeds and my IP. And we went back and
Speaker 2: forth for six months and it was no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, And then it was Yes, they just caved
Speaker 2: and I signed for another year with them that ended
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, and I went out on my
Speaker 2: own and now it's my everything. I own the production company,
Speaker 2: we produced the show. And now you live in a
Speaker 2: world where you do your show, you own it, you
Speaker 2: sell it, you do everything that there is to do
Speaker 2: with it, and then you just like if ESPN calls
Speaker 2: and says we want to sign you to a talent deal,
Speaker 2: you just go do a talent deal with them. It's
Speaker 2: like the best of all worlds. But it took a
Speaker 2: long time to get there.
Speaker 1: That three years where you're building and there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of movement probably was exciting. Were there's stagnant moments
Speaker 1: where you wondered if that was the right decision.
Speaker 2: Yes, I got evicted. I had no money. I was
Speaker 2: beyond broke. I had no money because I had lowered
Speaker 2: down to making because I was making like twenty four
Speaker 2: when I started as as a sports anchor. I ended
Speaker 2: up making less than that on the upgraded news anchor
Speaker 2: independent contract deal. So I wasn't making YouTube revenue yet,
Speaker 2: and so I'm making less than twenty five thousand dollars
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to do odd jobs to just like
Speaker 2: make ends meet, and they're not really meeting. And that's
Speaker 2: you know, you say that really quick. It takes me
Speaker 2: forty five seconds to say that. But that's a solid
Speaker 2: three year chunk of your life where you've jumped out
Speaker 2: of the plane and you're pulling the cord and the
Speaker 2: parachute's not immediately coming open. You still got a little ways.
Speaker 2: You still hope it'll open, but you don't know. I
Speaker 2: just believed in the concept so much like I'm not
Speaker 2: someone who constantly has the light bulb go off above
Speaker 2: his head, so when it does happen, I pay attention
Speaker 2: to it. And that's one of the moments where it happened.
Speaker 2: It was just so clear to me, you're driving through
Speaker 2: thick fog right now, but if you'll keep your foot
Speaker 2: on the gas, it will clear up. And it eventually
Speaker 2: cleared up, and you know, very similar to how I
Speaker 2: told you that day at the radio station, happened where
Speaker 2: you wake up that morning you have no clue. It's
Speaker 2: one of the biggest days of your life. The day
Speaker 2: that Shannon Terry called me, who was running twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven Sports at the time, which was owned by
Speaker 2: CBS the day he called me and offered me that job.
Speaker 2: I had no idea that call was coming on that day.
Speaker 2: It's like two or three of the biggest breaks in
Speaker 2: my professional career have come on days I would have
Speaker 2: least suspected anything big to happen that day.
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to
Speaker 5: the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1: It's funny when people talk about luck or even breaks,
Speaker 1: and I think that's how we have to refer to them.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about you getting hey, we got
Speaker 1: to go on in five minutes, you were ready for that,
Speaker 1: I think about I was working in a much lesser
Speaker 1: capacity on American Idol. I was on every episode, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't the host. Yep and Secrets was sick and
Speaker 1: he's never been sick ever. And it were ten minutes
Speaker 1: before going on in your live and they go, hey,
Speaker 1: you have to fill in. And it wasn't nervous because
Speaker 1: I didn't have time to be right. And then not
Speaker 1: only that I had done so many freaking hours getting
Speaker 1: ready that I wasn't. I never got nervous, like I
Speaker 1: was built to do that. Afterward, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, can you After it was over, I think back,
Speaker 1: and I just think, I'm so glad they didn't give
Speaker 1: me a day to think ahead of time and to
Speaker 1: try to plan what I was going to do and
Speaker 1: say because again I had done all the reps, that
Speaker 1: it was so natural that the only reason I didn't
Speaker 1: ruin it is because I was going off of instinct
Speaker 1: and repetition.
Speaker 2: That's why every great coach will always try and drilling you.
Speaker 2: Just trust your preparation. Trust your preparation. If you're not prepared,
Speaker 2: you got a whole different set of issues. If you're prepared,
Speaker 2: the only thing they can get in your way is
Speaker 2: what your mind tries to do to you. That's why
Speaker 2: what you're talking about, what I'm talking about the sweet
Speaker 2: spot is have it come out of nowhere, because if
Speaker 2: you're prepared, it doesn't matter if it comes out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: you'll handle it fine. And the same opportunity may be
Speaker 2: presented to you a week earlier. You're still as prepared
Speaker 2: in scenario B a scenario A, but in scenario B,
Speaker 2: when you got a week to think about it, your
Speaker 2: mind can mess you up, which is why the best
Speaker 2: who are in the coaching capacity always tell you forget
Speaker 2: about that just trust your preparation. Trust your preparation, because
Speaker 2: I agree with you. When we were doing local news,
Speaker 2: I will tell you the one thing I loved about
Speaker 2: local news, which is otherwise so monotonous and boring to
Speaker 2: me because you're reading a teleprompter all day. I loved
Speaker 2: breaking news because then we got to ad lib, and
Speaker 2: that's the only thing that was fun to me. Now,
Speaker 2: if it's a story about like a triple homicide or something,
Speaker 2: the story's not fun. But that's the only time I
Speaker 2: felt alive. Otherwise I'm doing morning shifts. You gotta wake
Speaker 2: up a three thirty in the morning to go into
Speaker 2: on air at five. You're trying to keep yourself awake
Speaker 2: during breaks. That's when I first started drinking coffee. I'd
Speaker 2: never consumed it before. I only started drinking coffee because
Speaker 2: it was on air every morning at five o'clock, not
Speaker 2: doing something I necessarily love to do.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like you were lucky that morning, and I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I was lucky that evening. I feel
Speaker 1: like eventually our opportunity was going to hit us, and
Speaker 1: it was when that opportunity met all the work that
Speaker 1: we had put into it. I do feel like, eventually
Speaker 1: I was going to have an opportunity like that, regardless
Speaker 1: if it was that night or another time. I feel
Speaker 1: like eventually you were going to have an opportunity like that,
Speaker 1: if it was that time or another time, but you
Speaker 1: were ready for it. And I think because some people go, man,
Speaker 1: how lucky was that? I mean, lucky would be if
Speaker 1: I'd never done it yep, and never prepared for it
Speaker 1: and then kind of killed it out of nowhere. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't lucky that I had spent freaking ten years
Speaker 1: doing every small, stupid red carpet job, every prompter job,
Speaker 1: begging to be on dog network, and then it happened.
Speaker 2: I'll say that experience for me totally changed phrasing that
Speaker 2: comes out of my mouth. I used to say things
Speaker 2: like right place, right time. I used to say that
Speaker 2: all the time. It just rolls off the tongue, sounds good.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a catch all. I never say it anymore.
Speaker 2: Right place, right times. If you win the lottery, right place,
Speaker 2: right time, that's pure luck. If someone's achieving something professionally,
Speaker 2: the much greater likelihood is they put themselves in the
Speaker 2: right place for an extended period of time and then
Speaker 2: the right time finally found them. That's the plus side
Speaker 2: of that equation. The downside, the flip side of the
Speaker 2: coin is wrong place, wrong time works the exact same way.
Speaker 2: If you traffic in bad habits for long enough, then
Speaker 2: the wrong time will eventually find you. If you surround
Speaker 2: yourself with the wrong people frequently enough, the wrong time
Speaker 2: will eventually find you. And I used to not think
Speaker 2: like that. I used to think, oh, it's just a
Speaker 2: perfect confluence of events. Sometimes, yes, far more.
Speaker 1: Often no, Yeah, I've on this show, You've been had
Speaker 1: people on and I will argue the concept of luck
Speaker 1: and it's the most boring thing you've ever heard.
Speaker 4: In your life.
Speaker 1: And everyone starts to roll their eyes, and then I go, well,
Speaker 1: you can't really define what luck is until someone dies,
Speaker 1: because one thing can lead into another and by and
Speaker 1: it's just terrible. It's like the worst content you could
Speaker 1: ever imagine. But I like you treated differently, and it
Speaker 1: was going to happen for me eventually anyway, because I
Speaker 1: was ready for it, same with you. You were ready
Speaker 1: for it. It just happened to be that morning. How crazy
Speaker 1: of a story, though, that's an awesome story.
Speaker 2: I will say one thing about luck if I was
Speaker 2: the person I am, but I was born in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy three, because of the difference in the media landscape
Speaker 2: versus what it ended up being. To me, that's maybe
Speaker 2: a little bit of luck, because that's not a controllable
Speaker 2: of mine. That's if I were if any of us
Speaker 2: were born in thirteen eighty two, you know, for example,
Speaker 2: like you were very blessed to be born to who
Speaker 2: you are, where you are when you are, or I
Speaker 2: am at least because those things are out of my control.
Speaker 2: Some of the other stuff that's in my control. You're right,
Speaker 2: I don't want to really view that so much as luck.
Speaker 2: If you catch a good break, like thankful for it,
Speaker 2: but also understand it's not a coincidence when you look
Speaker 2: around in your life and some people seem to catch
Speaker 2: a lot of lucky breaks and other people seem to always,
Speaker 2: quote unquote, be unlucky.
Speaker 1: You're talking like Bill Gates was just happened to be
Speaker 1: around the computer that was within three hundred, right. So
Speaker 1: with me, I started very young, and people would give
Speaker 1: me the credit of being Wow, this guy's way. Hey.
Speaker 1: I was podcasting in two thousand and five, and I
Speaker 1: was dedicated to it. But it wasn't that I was
Speaker 1: so much smarter. I was just living my life. I
Speaker 1: was young, and so that's what we did. We listen
Speaker 1: to podcasts. I was doing podcasts, and they'd be like,
Speaker 1: this guy is doing things nobody else does. No, No,
Speaker 1: I just happened to be born at the right time,
Speaker 1: So I can give you that. But i'd a rock
Speaker 1: in thirteen hundreds. I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. And if there's an apocalypse, now find me.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: I think we'd be a pretty good team.
Speaker 2: You think, so.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rule, but you can be my guy. You
Speaker 1: take care of that.
Speaker 2: We'll figure that out.
Speaker 1: He's the muscle.
Speaker 2: Is a lot more time for softball, not much else
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: I do congratulations on the ESPN show. Thank you, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. That's so cool. So you're going to campuses?
Speaker 1: Is that going to be game days or you go?
Speaker 1: Guys going in.
Speaker 2: They gave us full selection, so we get to go
Speaker 2: wherever we want. I would suppose sometimes that'll be where
Speaker 2: game day is, other times will be where they aren't.
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess, I mean, is it going to be
Speaker 1: actual just on game day? Or do you go in
Speaker 1: the day before, gotcha?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So what we'll do is we'll have
Speaker 2: a show there on ESPN on Friday, and the show
Speaker 2: will eminate live from whatever campus we're on Friday. From
Speaker 2: that point, I'm always going to be at a game Saturday,
Speaker 2: so I may stay at that campus where we are
Speaker 2: if it's like a noon kickoff the next day, I'll
Speaker 2: do this a lot, like I'll do the noon game
Speaker 2: and then I'll go somewhere else for the primetime kickoff,
Speaker 2: which is absolute dream scenario for someone who grew up
Speaker 2: loving college football. So but yeah, we're going to be
Speaker 2: at a game and the Friday show will be live
Speaker 2: at campus of one of the big games in the country.
Speaker 1: Was there a debate on whose name got to go
Speaker 1: first busting or pay because I'd have gone Payton bussing,
Speaker 1: But that's that's me.
Speaker 2: I think names are overrated in this sense, and like,
Speaker 2: so we didn't argue at all about it all. Here's
Speaker 2: what was funny. We were on a meeting Will Taylor
Speaker 2: myself or on a meeting with ESPN one morning and
Speaker 2: news leaks about the show coming out. We have no
Speaker 2: idea what the show is because we're on a meeting
Speaker 2: trying to figure out the name of the show, and
Speaker 2: so like we're looking at Front Off. I think it
Speaker 2: was Front Office Sports or OutKick that leaked the story,
Speaker 2: and Lwan like his his instinct is I'm gonna retweet
Speaker 2: it and said, that's cool. What's the name of the show,
Speaker 2: because we didn't know.
Speaker 1: And so we're starting to figure it out. That was
Speaker 1: where a lot of suggestions came in. That funny so
Speaker 1: it's busting and pay on campus. So so it's called
Speaker 1: on campus with bus busting and paid on campus three times. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll get your sticker busting and pay on campus and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be doing the show. I was on Friday,
Speaker 1: and you're going to stay out on Saturdays. Let's see
Speaker 1: your stuff. I have a story about each of those guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know Taylor at all, Lawan, but I forgive me.
Speaker 1: I was landing back at the private airport and I
Speaker 1: gave the I was like, hey, I'm here to pick
Speaker 1: up my car, and so they bring it to you,
Speaker 1: and so I got in and I had a rental
Speaker 1: because somebody had hit me in my car, and so
Speaker 1: I got in and I drove. I don't know third
Speaker 1: of the way home and I realized, same kind of car.
Speaker 1: This ain't my car. There was just like something weird
Speaker 1: in the middle. And then I realized the cup holders
Speaker 1: weren't the same because the rental they gave me wasn't
Speaker 1: the car that I'm used to. But I had it
Speaker 1: for like a week and it was a I don't want,
Speaker 1: Doc Taylor. It was a big black Suv YEP, and
Speaker 1: so I turned around, I drive it back and said,
Speaker 1: this is not mine. They're like, oh yeah, sorry about that,
Speaker 1: and they go and they bring another one up. I
Speaker 1: was driving the one's suv home.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: The first thing that stands out to me about this
Speaker 2: is that's a former NFL left tackle. The proportions of
Speaker 2: the seat configuration alone very long.
Speaker 1: Guy, what do you want? I just want to.
Speaker 4: One of the guy that drove it to Bobby was
Speaker 4: probably normal.
Speaker 2: Probably so I like the first one.
Speaker 1: I went to the doctor and uh six foot one recently, boy, absolutely,
Speaker 1: thank you, So.
Speaker 2: You will do okay in the thirteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. The other one is I have met Will.
Speaker 1: We were at the Super Bowl and I was playing
Speaker 1: with one of the barstool teams in the trivia, you know,
Speaker 1: they do trivia, And I was on Brandon Walker's team
Speaker 1: and that's the only time I've met well. And he
Speaker 1: was extremely nice. Who knew he was like the kindest guy.
Speaker 1: He came up and we were talking about we just
Speaker 1: had the bad weather here that we had to live
Speaker 1: in this place. It was so bad storm, yes, and
Speaker 1: we were talking about, you know how it just had
Speaker 1: destroyed where we live. And he was really really nice.
Speaker 1: So I stole Lawan's car, but Compton was extremely nice
Speaker 1: to me. That's my two stories.
Speaker 2: Actually a pretty deep catalog of stories right out of
Speaker 2: the pocket. You can relate to this, all right. I've
Speaker 2: done solo stuff pretty much my whole media career. I
Speaker 2: prefer it that way. It just far less things can
Speaker 2: go wrong out of your control if you do solo.
Speaker 2: So like I always wondered, okay, what would that ensemble
Speaker 2: dynamic be like? Though, here's the problem, all right, And
Speaker 2: this is what local news taught me. Sometimes you have
Speaker 2: great on air chemistry with people you don't really like
Speaker 2: all that much, and you have terrible on air chemistry
Speaker 2: with people you do like. And it makes no sense
Speaker 2: to someone who's never done this for a living. Because
Speaker 2: you would think, oh, your buddies, that's who you'd get
Speaker 2: along with on air. And I had both of those
Speaker 2: cases happen. So I thought to myself, Man, what a
Speaker 2: shame if I ever tried it out and I found
Speaker 2: people who I clicked with, but I didn't like them
Speaker 2: all that much. So I start doing stuff with those
Speaker 2: guys just last year is really when I started doing
Speaker 2: stuff with them. In first fifteen minutes of first show
Speaker 2: that you do, you realize I like them a lot,
Speaker 2: and Wow, there's a lot of synergy here, Like it's
Speaker 2: just flowing. You can't create that in a lab. You either
Speaker 2: got it with someone or you don't. The first show,
Speaker 2: like we realized we got to put a protective fence
Speaker 2: around this, Like we got to make sure this concept
Speaker 2: right here because we all feel it, We all like it.
Speaker 2: You want to have synergy with the people you like,
Speaker 2: and if you can ever find that, those are the
Speaker 2: ones you want to build franchises out of. And we're
Speaker 2: two years into doing a little bit of that now.
Speaker 1: And also reading between the lines, you told me that
Speaker 1: Will and La want hate each other. That's what I
Speaker 1: got for it.
Speaker 2: At least I'm there, Yes yes to keep it together.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in. I love to hear your story.
Speaker 1: I like for you to share it every so often,
Speaker 1: especially with people that are watching and listening to me,
Speaker 1: because it is you knew what you wanted, you sacrificed
Speaker 1: to get there. You didn't have it easy even while
Speaker 1: you were getting there, you made difficult decisions and you
Speaker 1: got there, and so I like the story that resonates
Speaker 1: with me. I feel like a lot of people that
Speaker 1: listen to me and watch this stuff like they feel
Speaker 1: that too. So thanks for sharing that. That's why I
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to talk to you before, because you're
Speaker 1: the kid with a swimming pool that in the summer
Speaker 1: everybody wants to be friends with the kid that has
Speaker 1: from the pool.
Speaker 2: Man, I knew those kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in college football time, you can't get you
Speaker 1: because everybody everybody wants you. So it's before I when
Speaker 1: I messaged you, I was like, let's go before you,
Speaker 1: before this phone poll opens, Let's get Josh in. So
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming in. I'm rooting for you
Speaker 1: because of what you come from and what you stand for.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope to show on the field with
Speaker 1: Peter and Bussy. Who does really.
Speaker 2: Great verbatim that I appreciate it, but you're killing it.
Speaker 2: I'm a whole set up here, love it. I appreciate
Speaker 2: you having me over.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
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