WEBVTT - #660 - Tornado Chasing, Best College Towns & Bad Sequels with Josh Pate

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So on today's episode, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>storm chasing, We're going to talk greatest college towns. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little college football. We have Josh pat here,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the college football guy. Unless you're Brandon Walker

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<v Speaker 1>watching this now, he's still the college guy. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. So first I wanted to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>best college towns in America without giving you the list.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've been I think practically to all the good ones.

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<v Speaker 1>What comes to my top college towns?

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<v Speaker 2>Athens, Georgia. I love State College, Pennsylvania. Now is this

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<v Speaker 2>a list like a ranking?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to guess, or is it my I want

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<v Speaker 3>just yours because you've been a lot of places.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a list, but I don't want you to

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<v Speaker 1>see the list before I go. Here are yours, and

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<v Speaker 1>we give ours?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I love Athens. I think if I were to

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<v Speaker 2>have to take someone from another country who wants to

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<v Speaker 2>see a college town on a game day, I would

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<v Speaker 2>take them to Athens, Georgia. I think that's pretty quintessential. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you may hate Georgia, like you're a Florida fan or something,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think if you could divorce yourself from

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<v Speaker 2>that you could deny just the vibe of Athens. Knoxville's

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger town, but I still think it is a really,

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<v Speaker 2>really good college town if you're in the right spots.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuscaloosa can be like that. I just mentioned State College,

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<v Speaker 2>so Penn State. I was just up there this week,

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<v Speaker 2>so kind of recency biased. Too cold, though not in

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<v Speaker 2>August fair enough, So make sure you go up there

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<v Speaker 2>with me early in the season. Have you been to Eugene,

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<v Speaker 2>have you been to Oregon? Yes, so I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>good for me, but I'm from the South. If I

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<v Speaker 2>take some of my Southern buddies up there, it's really

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<v Speaker 2>hit or miss, like they either kind of can get

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<v Speaker 2>with that or they can't get with that. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a conditional college town.

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<v Speaker 1>So isolated. It is like I can find a reason

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<v Speaker 1>to say everything is bad except Fanville. So just know

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<v Speaker 1>that I'll find a reason to hate on everything. And

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<v Speaker 1>Eugene's awesome. It's just so hard to get to if

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<v Speaker 1>you're just going there for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're either southwest probably two stops to Eugene, or

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<v Speaker 2>you're probably Portland and then an hour and a half

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<v Speaker 2>down the coast and you're not really driving on the coast,

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<v Speaker 2>so you don't get the scenery. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>like Eugene, Okay. The one that I haven't been to enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I've only been to a game there once is Oxford.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh this hurts. It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>You It feels like though, if you ever walk into

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<v Speaker 1>like a Louis Bitton store or one of these luxury

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<v Speaker 1>brand stores, how they look at you when you walk in,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of want to make you feel less than

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<v Speaker 1>just to see if you're worthy. That's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like when you go and you're the opposing team,

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<v Speaker 1>because you go out in the grove and everybody's fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they wear two collars on their shirts that type. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not toy one collar, they're wearing two. Or they're wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the flip up you know how we used to do

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. So it's great though. So Oxford

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<v Speaker 1>is fantastic because it's all built in. You did not

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<v Speaker 1>mention Feteville, So I'd like to hear. Have you been

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<v Speaker 1>to Fable, Arkansas?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like it. Very underrated, very underrated airport. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way. Yeah, you gotta drive twenty minutes kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ou in the middle of nowhere. But I remember, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember X and A because we're right next to BNA.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just a place where if I were to circle

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<v Speaker 2>two of them, South Carolina and Arkansas is a place

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<v Speaker 2>where if I could just snap my fingers in like

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of places or better perennially at football, those

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<v Speaker 2>would be the two, because I actually I would. Arkansas

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<v Speaker 2>is one of my favorite places to go. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to get storry about in a second, which I may

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<v Speaker 2>have told you just about losing my vision up there

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<v Speaker 2>because of the moonshine over not moonshine, something even more

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous cold brew consumed in large quantities. I wish they

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<v Speaker 2>were good. I know you're trying, like I know you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything in your power. I wish that I had

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<v Speaker 2>more reasons to go up to Arkansas. People will say

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, why don't you come up here enough?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you suck.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to the biggest games in the country every Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>The last one I could go to is when you

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<v Speaker 2>guys played Cincinnati to open the season a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it hurts. We bought a house right next

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<v Speaker 1>to the football stadium, but we bought it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the market goes Mark goes down. I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>got a better deal in the house because we suck

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<v Speaker 1>right now, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess is one ray of sunshine. That's one way

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<v Speaker 2>to look at it. As at least it moves the

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<v Speaker 2>needle in one direction.

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<v Speaker 4>People park in your yard like game day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we haven't lived there during a game a season yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I know, dude, there's the money to be made,

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<v Speaker 1>but twenty bucks a car, But what do I care?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be parking in my yarda ugh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would put And it doesn't really count because the

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<v Speaker 1>city is so great. It just happens to have a

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<v Speaker 1>college there, Austin Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a million residents. I know, it doesn't I

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<v Speaker 1>hate the Longhorns, hate with every part of me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I live with Longhorns and have friends that coach Longhorns.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up in Arkansas, we hate Texas. But Austin is

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<v Speaker 1>freaking awesome. But it's not a college town. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>city that has a college in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any familiarity with Texas Tech?

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning I know they head football coach.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you know like, have you've been out there

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<v Speaker 2>in the lubb.

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<v Speaker 1>It but I haven't really experienced their island of Texas

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<v Speaker 1>technis good.

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<v Speaker 2>Way to put it. You haven't been to the island

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<v Speaker 2>of Texas Technas.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've played a show. I did stand up out

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<v Speaker 1>there at theater, but I didn't really get to experience

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<v Speaker 1>the Texas technis.

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<v Speaker 2>That is one I would describe that, even more so

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<v Speaker 2>than maybe how we describe Eugene of like people think Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're from Michigan and you've never been there, you think, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Texas is Texas. Austin and Lubbock are like Jupiter and Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like different planets. Culturally they could not be any

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<v Speaker 2>more different. So that's another one. Like Lubbock, I love

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<v Speaker 2>it because it reminds me a little bit of sort

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<v Speaker 2>of the environment I grew up in rural Georgia. So

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<v Speaker 2>you go out there, everyone's sleeves are rolled up, just

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<v Speaker 2>literally and figuratively. It's kind of like an US against

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<v Speaker 2>the World mentality. You feel like you're on the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's six hours from the next biggest town, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you're about that, it's awesome. If you're not about that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, man, how soon can I get out of here?

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<v Speaker 2>Since I'm about it? I love it. I took Savannah

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<v Speaker 2>and my wife out there, and she had never been

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much west of Dallas in the state of Texas before,

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<v Speaker 2>and we took her out there this past year. They

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<v Speaker 2>played Brigham Young game days there, like it's a huge day,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll go see Joey. We'll go out there the

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<v Speaker 2>day before and I had her spend the forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>She couldn't shut up about it. She still hasn't shut

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<v Speaker 2>up about it. We've gone out there again since then.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's one that's a little off people's

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<v Speaker 2>radars where if you just popped, hey, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about Lubbock, Texas on them, it would kind of

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<v Speaker 2>catch them off guard. It's like a little fist to

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<v Speaker 2>the chin in the college town conversation that they don't

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<v Speaker 2>see coming. But you go out there, man, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>different world. You may not like it, but you may

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<v Speaker 2>also love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you just reveal bias that you are from Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>and you just picked Georgia as your number one team? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know where you're from. I was just gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>that slide but I can't address it and said you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can say I'm from Georgia. What I'm more

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<v Speaker 2>interested in is Georgia being my number one team, because

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<v Speaker 2>I said Athens was my number one town.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm saying college towns though. Yeah, they said there's

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<v Speaker 1>some bias there.

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<v Speaker 2>There is. I don't know. Yes, you could say that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't convince you of a counterfactual. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I would say Athens if I were from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Wichita Falls. I think Athens. If I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>list you the things I look for in college town,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you one thing that's underrated. A little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of terrain being baked in, like if it's not just flat.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to Provo Eddie and I did a shoot

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<v Speaker 1>with BYU. Yeah, what a freaking city.

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<v Speaker 2>I've only flown over it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the field, And when you say terrain, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it triggered, YEP, is that it's surrounded by snowcap mountains.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a screensaver basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and whatever they had Mormon's name is, he's up

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<v Speaker 1>on the top of it doing this, and so you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. So they played Notre Dame there this year, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the one where I'm looking at the few

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<v Speaker 2>places I've never been. I've never seen a game at

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<v Speaker 2>Brigham Young. I've never been to Provo. Maybe that's my shot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't have it off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that Saturday. There are really two of them

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<v Speaker 2>this year. They're just cram packed, and that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those Saturdays where you've got half a dozen games that

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<v Speaker 2>may qualify as the biggest game on any given other Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>So crossed we can get out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I have guilt about our Provo trip

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<v Speaker 1>because we go and we're hanging out. Everybody's so nice

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<v Speaker 1>to us, you know, the coach is awesome, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go and work out with some of the

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<v Speaker 1>players and they're like, what jerseys do you want? And Eddie,

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<v Speaker 1>what number did you get?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember, like seventeen or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I remember remember where at b Yu. Huh what

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<v Speaker 1>number should I not ask for?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't ask for Jim at Mann's number.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's think you're twelve years old. Immature more than that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the most immature number you could possibly ask for

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<v Speaker 1>that you shouldn't ask for at a school that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Built on sounds like an offensive lineman number. Yeah, probably

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<v Speaker 2>in the upper sixties. Yeah, and everyone rolls their eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and you did.

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<v Speaker 1>It like an idiot. And I regret it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't regret anything in my life. I've learned from many mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>But once I started looking at pictures and the video

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<v Speaker 1>of it, I hated me because I wore the number

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine at BYU. It was just bad. It is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like me for that, and so that's my regret.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give a pregnant pause to let it sizzle.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are what age right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Forty six?

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<v Speaker 2>You are a forty six year old successful man. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're speaking to a college class right now and

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<v Speaker 2>someone raises their hand, mister bones, excuse me, mister bones.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your biggest regret in life? You're gonna go, well, Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Provo one time and they asked me

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<v Speaker 2>what jersey I want and I went sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine, Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>Other than that has been a pretty good life, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's the answer. Yeah, it used to be

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<v Speaker 1>when I got fined a million bucks by the FCC.

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<v Speaker 2>That's distant memory.

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<v Speaker 1>That's too. Number one is picking number sixty nine at

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<v Speaker 1>a religious school because it was stupid. It was so stupid.

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<v Speaker 4>They're so nice over there that I don't even think

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<v Speaker 4>they realized what he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a good theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Great number.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think they knew, They didn't know what that meant.

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<v Speaker 1>Hasn't got there? Yeah yeah, so I deeply regret.

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<v Speaker 2>Has it got there? As it got there? It has now.

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<v Speaker 1>I traveled through the top five from Business Insider, are

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<v Speaker 1>at number five, Tallahassee, Florida at Florida State.

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<v Speaker 2>To do that, Wait, wait did they list the criteria

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<v Speaker 2>out of curious?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they did, so these are the best college towns

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<v Speaker 1>where culture, lifestyle, local college economy, population, and they also

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<v Speaker 1>factor in how well known is the college. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>at five was Florida State. Eddie and I played a

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<v Speaker 1>concert in Florida State in the in the football stadium

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<v Speaker 1>and before you go, wow, that's cool, they had the

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<v Speaker 1>stage facing like only the end zone. Yes we really playing,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, we played toward the We don't say that details.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all it counts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>And that same time I try to sneak into a

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<v Speaker 4>frat party that night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you did, dude, this might be worse

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<v Speaker 1>than sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>They did not let me in continue that, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, it was parents weekend, So I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>had a chance, Like okay, and this was what how

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<v Speaker 2>many years?

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<v Speaker 1>We got another dad over here? Seven or eight years ago?

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<v Speaker 4>Years ago? So I'm like you, me and another buddy,

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, all right, let's see we can get in

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<v Speaker 4>and they're like, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting in here?

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<v Speaker 4>Like all right?

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<v Speaker 1>At number four, Gainesville, Florida, No problem with that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because they haven't been good though in a while, like

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<v Speaker 1>consistently good. That didn't it didn't factor into yours, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh No, it's I just didn't do a comprehensive list. Gainesville.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have eventually gotten to Auburn, Alabama really good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Auburn's excellent. I actually Auburn would be way up there,

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<v Speaker 2>possibly top five. I like, going, is Auburn on there? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Not in the top ten to me, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know how this is no shot at FSU. The way

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<v Speaker 2>I would list the criteria for great college town, I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea how Tallahassee Florida is above like Auburn

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<v Speaker 2>or Athens. I grew up within close proximity to those.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say that's biased, that's fine, but like those

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<v Speaker 2>two places are pretty awesome to me.

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<v Speaker 4>That frat party looked awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, from the door, it looks you know what the

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<v Speaker 1>best part about going to Auburn was there's a gas

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<v Speaker 1>station near the university where you take your stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>you just put it on the counter and automatically reads

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<v Speaker 1>the price. That was Tallahassee. No, that was Auburn. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Yeah, it was Auburn because that's where the Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley statue is. OK, and of everything that we did,

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<v Speaker 1>because we went in played ball there and shot some stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had a gas station that that knew the

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<v Speaker 1>price of a banana by just me putting it on

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<v Speaker 1>the counter.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know about that place. And I'm from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'll give you. I'll give you a detail.

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<v Speaker 1>So Number three Charlottesville, Virginia, University of Virginia, never been

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's so clean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds clean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so clean. Number two is Arizona State Tempa Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it, yeah, love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to Arizona State.

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<v Speaker 4>We went to Arizonazona.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a different vibe. Yeah, the Arizona vibe is

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<v Speaker 1>different than Arizona State vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mean like maybe one's a little little dirtier, grittier,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other one's a little.

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<v Speaker 1>More Arizona stream, more maserati. Yeah, Arizona straight Corolla.

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<v Speaker 2>We were late. Yeah, fair enough, say no more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had number one. I've never been here An Arbor,

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan University of Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's different in a sense that they are good.

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<v Speaker 2>They know they're good. They make no apologies about acknowledging

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<v Speaker 2>that they're good. But if that's okay with you, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little more sweater vest crowd, then maybe I'm used

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<v Speaker 2>to growing up in the South. It is a quintessential

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<v Speaker 2>college town experience. Though, they are right about that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a good one. I probably wouldn't have rattled that one

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<v Speaker 2>off because I've gone for the Ohio State game, so

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been totally zoned in on the game when

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<v Speaker 2>I've been there. That is a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, have you ever seen him at he hit US

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<v Speaker 1>soft ball?

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<v Speaker 4>I would imagine he just smacks the crap out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, like he's jackshit. He obviously works out and

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<v Speaker 1>takes care of his body, and like I respect that.

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<v Speaker 1>And still though it's different the physiology to hit a

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<v Speaker 1>softball than it is just a bench press a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unreal. He does the thing where he walks up

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<v Speaker 1>and swings and walks back to the dugout. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a safe time. What do you mean of all the

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<v Speaker 1>content he does? And I'm a fan of Josh because

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<v Speaker 1>he created his own lane. Like to me, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>massive do your own thing if you can, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you can't, like figure out how to patch it together

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<v Speaker 1>and make it work. Like to me, that's the Josh

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<v Speaker 1>paid story is like he did it himself. But the

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<v Speaker 1>second thing is he hits a softball a mile And

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<v Speaker 1>when he posts content, that's my favorite thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you do a lot of great but it's

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<v Speaker 1>when he posts on story he'll be like yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>he'll put a ball with like a rocket on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll just walk up gone, he walks right back to

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<v Speaker 1>the dugout. So wow, how does that feel to just

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<v Speaker 1>be an athletic monster out on that field?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, conditionally, now like we are talking about Smirnit

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee on a Friday night.

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<v Speaker 1>That ball goes out anywhere. The balls I see you hit,

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<v Speaker 1>they go out it in any park.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun. I love hitting, like hitting athletically, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>baseball or softball. Outside of working out, That's always been

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite thing I play. I didn't play basketball, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've played most of the other sports growing up. I

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<v Speaker 2>played basketball growing up, but I just didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>But of all the things that you could do repetitively

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<v Speaker 2>in sports, hitting like when you hit good, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>really really good feeling. Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you be able to send us a video because

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<v Speaker 1>when we clip this, I want to make sure we

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<v Speaker 1>have a video of you launching a ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I can round one up.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, you've seen athletic feats until you've seen Josh Payton

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<v Speaker 1>Smart of Tennessee on a Wednesday night six thirty game.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey whatever, now whatever, this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the league you're in, that you're in a softball.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I do some absurd things that end

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<v Speaker 2>up costing a lot of money logistically of travel wise,

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<v Speaker 2>so I could play in that Friday night league. I

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<v Speaker 2>love playing softball.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever not hit a home run?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, plenty of times. Three home run limit per game.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get all three though?

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<v Speaker 3>On your team, I'd say most of the time, if

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<v Speaker 3>someone's gonna hit three, yeah, not all the time though,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, I'm not the only one on the

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<v Speaker 3>team who could hit one out. Oh but you're by

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that hit the farthest right when you count,

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<v Speaker 3>the same goes in the crew one with a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a philosophy. Yeah, one time, long time ago,

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<v Speaker 2>when I had stopped playing baseball and I started playing softball.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all kind of unwritten rules and float pitch softball.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone who's played the game for any length of time

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<v Speaker 2>knows that if you're playing in a certain caliber of

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<v Speaker 2>that sport, like travel ball, it's all former minor league

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<v Speaker 2>baseball players, you can hit the ball up the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>You can do whatever you want to if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a caliber below that, guys who are playing

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<v Speaker 2>for fun church league, they're doing it one night a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there are people well over fifty years old in

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<v Speaker 2>some cases on these fields don't be hitting the ball

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<v Speaker 2>up the middle. I didn't know that, so I hit

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<v Speaker 2>a guy in the net, like just next to his

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<v Speaker 2>throat one time. I knew him. He's like a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of mine. And he fell and it makes that like

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of a smack sound against his neck, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was terrified. Fortunately he didn't get hurt bad. But

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<v Speaker 2>if it hit him in like the esophagus, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what would have happened. I have not hit

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<v Speaker 2>the ball up the middle again since then. That was

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<v Speaker 2>in know, maybe twenty ten. That's at least fifteen sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, so I don't but I see it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a guy, I kid you not, man, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a serious story. I played with a buddy in

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<v Speaker 2>a tournament Manchester, Georgia, and we're playing outfield and it's

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<v Speaker 2>we're in like our fifth game of the day and

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<v Speaker 2>he is playing left field. So guy hits a ball

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<v Speaker 2>and he's my buddy is going to get under this ball.

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<v Speaker 2>He's camped and he knows, all right, I'm good, I

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<v Speaker 2>can cut off sprinting. He turns around and he's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like coasting in a backpedal, catches the ball, trips

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<v Speaker 2>over his foot a little bit, sling shots himself into

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<v Speaker 2>the fence. This field had like light poles built into

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<v Speaker 2>the fence, which is dangerous. His head just so happened

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<v Speaker 2>to hit one of those poles flush against the pole,

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<v Speaker 2>knocked unconscious. It had seizures right there on the field

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me. They had to land a life

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<v Speaker 2>flight helicopter on the field in Manchester, Yeah, and airlift

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<v Speaker 2>him down to Columbus, which is like forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>south of Manchester. I mean, he was never quite the

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<v Speaker 2>same again, gos like, he's terrifying. I'd never seen anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that happen before.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you a basher when you played baseball in high school?

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<v Speaker 2>In my junior and senior year, I got to where

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<v Speaker 2>I could hit like that, but I never touched weights

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<v Speaker 2>until my sophomore year. So, I mean I first worked

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<v Speaker 2>out in tenth grade, and they had a rule. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Harris County High School in west central Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a rule in there, which is probably a good rule,

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't be working out in the general population

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<v Speaker 2>until you can bench, power clean, and squat one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>pounds each, like that's the minimum threshold. So I could

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<v Speaker 2>not power clean or bench one hundred pounds. So I

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<v Speaker 2>had to work out with the girls for a little

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<v Speaker 2>while in a separate workout group when you used to

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<v Speaker 2>still have co ed weight training. And then I finally

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<v Speaker 2>graduated up. So I started from whatever the bottom is.

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<v Speaker 2>I started below the bottom on strength raining. But then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like so underdeveloped that it was like leaps

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<v Speaker 2>and bounds. Once I finally learned to eat and lift

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<v Speaker 2>halfway properly, so like junior and senior year, Yeah, I could.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wish that I had been at a serious

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<v Speaker 2>place that made me work out, because unfortunately I was

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<v Speaker 2>not then mentally like I am now. No one needs

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<v Speaker 2>to tell me to do it now. Back then you

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<v Speaker 2>had to drag me in the weight room and like

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<v Speaker 2>make me do it because I just didn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>mental discipline.

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<v Speaker 1>Edy, you'll be freaking out of your shoes when you

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<v Speaker 1>see him hit a ball. Wait to see you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have all the things, and he's built his own empire.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hitting us off ball that I'm there.

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<v Speaker 2>You go, hang tight.

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<v Speaker 5>The Bobby Cast will be right back, and we're back

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<v Speaker 5>on the Bobby Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk stormchasing for a second. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you do that? Do you have a background in weather?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? My background is the year's nineteen ninety six twister

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<v Speaker 2>comes out the movie. Yes, I go to see the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to see it.

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<v Speaker 4>That was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's my background.

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<v Speaker 1>See just what fascinated two things?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? So Twister came out in ninety six. I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid. I think that in Titanic and weirdly

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.399
<v Speaker 2>a Denzel Washington movie called Deja Vu. Those are the

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.920
<v Speaker 2>only movies I saw in theaters three times. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>how fascinated I was by Twister. Also, I only watched

0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Sports Center in the Weather Channel at my MEMM's house

0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:27.399
<v Speaker 2>growing up. That's how I learned my geography. That's how

0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I learned my stats. That's how I learned everything that

0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I knew about the world was Sports Center and the

0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Weather Channel. And then when Twister came out, like I

0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 2>was gobsmacked by it because I'm in that really really adventurous,

0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.720
<v Speaker 2>nothing's impossible sort of stage of childhood. And then I

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 2>found out I already have a fascination with atmospheric science

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.200
<v Speaker 2>from watching Weather Channel all the time. There are people

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<v Speaker 2>who do this recreationally, like there are people who go

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<v Speaker 2>out and do that. Maybe one day you can even

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<v Speaker 2>make money on it. Then you fast forward all these

0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 2>years later and it's a whole industry. It's an industry

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<v Speaker 2>of content creation, but it's also an industry of You

0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 2>could be out there for scientific reasons, you could be

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<v Speaker 2>working on government grant money. But there are people out

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<v Speaker 2>in the field now. And the best way I can

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<v Speaker 2>describe it for the ninety nine percent of people watching

0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 2>this who smartly will never put themselves in close proximity

0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to a tornado is if you picture the adrenaline mixture

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.920
<v Speaker 2>of like being at the very top of a roller

0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.480
<v Speaker 2>coaster as it starts to go down, and if you

0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:29.240
<v Speaker 2>mix that with sex, and if you mix that with

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.479
<v Speaker 2>being in a haunted house right as someone jumps out

0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:36.360
<v Speaker 2>to scare you. If you mix those three feelings, that's

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 2>what stormchasing feels like. In the peak moments. That's what

0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 2>it feels like. It's unbelievable. It's not for everyone. It's

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:44.919
<v Speaker 2>for almost no one. But if you're like a little

0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:50.159
<v Speaker 2>twisted and it doesn't like that meter that's supposed to

0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 2>go off inside of you that says don't do that

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.120
<v Speaker 2>doesn't exist, and it doesn't exist in me, it's incredible.

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing else like it. I do it every spring.

0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why I cover college football for a living.

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<v Speaker 1>You had one turn on you and come back at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. March third, twenty nineteen, we were done in Beauregard, Alabama.

0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Twenty three people ended up dying within a quarter mile

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 2>radius of where we were. And it's a big EF

0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.200
<v Speaker 2>four tornado. This is near Auburn. Actually it's between Auburn

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 2>and Columbus. We were having to do what is called

0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.639
<v Speaker 2>core punching, which is where you're not where you're supposed

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 2>to be, so you're having to attack the thing from

0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:27.679
<v Speaker 2>the north. Normally, when you're attacking tornadic supercell from the north,

0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:29.639
<v Speaker 2>you got to go through a hail core. In a

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.639
<v Speaker 2>big rain core, you want to be south of it.

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 2>It's clear, normally you can see things from the south

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and so we thought we'd have time to

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.800
<v Speaker 2>core punch it. But it's moving northeast about sixty miles

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 2>an hour. We're going south, you know, so it's coming

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.159
<v Speaker 2>this way, and I realized we don't have time, but

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I realized really late. So we you turn it right

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 2>as that thing crosses in front of where we would

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 2>have been, and then we were the first ones to

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 2>come in on the back side of it. Destruction like

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I had never seen before. You had fatalities. First responders

0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.560
<v Speaker 2>aren't there yet. This is like the most most terrible

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 2>environment imaginable.

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<v Speaker 1>How close were you to doing that instead of doing

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<v Speaker 1>college football?

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm still close now to doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but now you've built you're a college football guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But to be in camp toward junior how close were

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:15.679
<v Speaker 1>you to doing that?

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm still close. Now you're doing it. I'm dead serious.

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you and I are. So just think about this, Okay,

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 2>if you and I were talking in nineteen ninety six, Yeah,

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.679
<v Speaker 2>you pretty much have to exist in a lane, just

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:30.679
<v Speaker 2>the way that's the way the media industry, the entertainment

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 2>industry worked twenty twenty six. You just don't have to

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 2>think like that. So, yes, college football will always be

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 2>the core of what I do. But if you start

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 2>to be successful there, and then your company starts to

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 2>scale and you got all kinds of different opportunities and

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.199
<v Speaker 2>financially you're not nearly as strapped as you used to be,

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 2>there's room to pursue all kinds of different projects. That's

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 2>always been one that's been right there on the shelf.

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I've had the concept. I've just been waiting to be

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.919
<v Speaker 2>able to BANKRLL it because I don't really like borrowing

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>money from people, so I've been waiting until I can,

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:02.959
<v Speaker 2>and we can do it now. I mean truthfully, I

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 2>tell you this because I know we're doing it, because

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 2>we've already been like six months down the road on it.

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 2>So it's not necessarily maybe something i'd be the face of,

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 2>like I'm built for college football, but I think there's

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 2>a huge, huge, untapped market still for what we're talking

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 2>about out there.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think of the sequel?

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Is that Twisters?

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 2>It is good? Good title, too obvious, very good, very

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 2>good title. Yeah, I thought it was good for what

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>it was. I thought that it was such a missed

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to not have more callback to the first Twister,

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Like there's so many layups. The last scene in Twister,

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 2>the original spoiler alert spoiler very important spoiler alert. As

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 2>we as we come up on the thirtieth anniversary important

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 2>spoiler alert.

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.639
<v Speaker 1>It's Bill and just Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton. They

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>get back together.

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 2>They're they're probably getting covered in rass sewage. Something's raining

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 2>down on them, some kind of pie his burst and

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 2>then credit troll and we don't know what happens after that.

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>It would have been so easy thirty years later to

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 2>just incorporate the concept that maybe they had kids, maybe

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.679
<v Speaker 2>they ended up together. Because the unfortunate part was by

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the time Twisters comes out, Bill Paxton has passed away,

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Philip Seymour Hoffman has passed away. Like there were central

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 2>figures of the original movie. You can't incorporate anymore, but

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>you can instill. You can still incorporate themes from it,

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't. So it was a good movie. I

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>just thought there was so much left on the table,

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>which so they're not related, they're not really.

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>No, Like if you saw the Tornado though, was the

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>son of the Tornado from Twitter that you need me

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>to lead you there? If you just wipe through the credit,

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you would have seen that you saw the old Tornado

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.120
<v Speaker 1>talking to the young Tornado, like, yeah, you made me proud.

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, maybe that's what we cover in Twisters is maybe

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 2>that's what they cover.

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Loki, Helen Hunt, underrated babe of back in our Day.

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about it. I just watched What Women Want

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the other night. I think there's a conversation to be had.

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that she doesn't get the credit she deserves.

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Even I have to be reminded of it, but she

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>was for a teenage kid who like to be alone.

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>She was awesome, like even mad about you. Yeah yeah,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>so I mean, Paul Riser Man, what, I don't have

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>anything in my eye.

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>There's a conversation to be had, I think because this

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>as a kid, this is how I viewed Helen Hunt.

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>There I would watch if I watched National Lampoon's Vacation

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and I see Christy Brinkley, that is not obtainable. Obviously

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm a kid and she's a full grown adult. But

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I think to myself, no, people like me don't grow

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 2>up to marry people like Christy Brinkley. Helen Hunt had

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 2>an obtainability about her.

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 4>It's like she lives next door.

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, possible, Gilligan's Island.

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe it's like you could conceptualize it.

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>At least it's it's the Gilligan's Island. It's why people

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>because there was marionn Yeah, skipper too, this conversation with

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>a skipper. You can have a skipper, but you know,

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:11.919
<v Speaker 1>the girl next door was the one that most people

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 1>like related to. I just searched underrated babes in the nineties.

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Parker Posey oh yeah, I think so.

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, dayson confused come on?

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah.

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>And also she was not nineties but white lotus as

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>an older lady. Yeah, still had the.

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah still hot. Yeah.

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Well I didn't say that what I wanted. I didn't

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>want to say that, but I still had.

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Also Robin Tunney.

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 4>I don't know that is.

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Remind me who that is?

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, same, let's google immager.

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Not a good idea. Not a good day for Robin.

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I know she's watching, Okay, I remember do you remember

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Robin Tunny?

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I would have known the face a lot

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 2>of these I'll know the face of I may not.

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>What was she on Robin Tunny? You would know her

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 1>from things such as Empire Records and Sino Man. I

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>think she was the main girl in in Sino Man. Yeah,

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>musically Fiona Apple Ah, she was the man talk about

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>strung out hot is what kind of that? And then

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>she was always too A lot going on? What was

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>going on in her head?

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:21.400
<v Speaker 2>A lot going on?

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 1>And then another one was I don't know who this is.

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Carrie wore her she's from Anaconda and Sliders. I gotta

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>look her up.

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Ka r I she took a back seat if she

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 2>was in anaconda. W h why, I mean, that's the

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 2>snake nearly peaked j Lo. That's post Selena j Loo.

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 2>That's Jlo when she she's rolling at that point.

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Ever, was a Jlo guy.

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say you couldn't hit mute. I didn't say

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 2>you had to consume the film a certain way. And granted,

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the snake did a great job in the movie, but

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I thought jo.

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>The snake was an oscar that went to lead actor

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>would be the snake in your story. To me is

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>extremely inspiring because of kind of how it started. Let's

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>act like I don't know it. How did this Josh

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Pate get to because you're just big and famous now,

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>but you weren't. You were just working local.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Right before media, I was just working in warehouses and

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 2>construction sites. Because I came out of high school. I

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 2>was like a tweener where you don't grow up broke,

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>but you're closer to broke than wealthy, because when we

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>couldn't even spell wealthy. But you're not growing up in

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 2>your back against the wall. You're not some impoverished kid

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 2>who knows I got to make it or my family

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>screwed it. Wasn't quite like that, so I didn't really

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>know what I wanted to do. When I graduated high

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 2>school in Georgia, they have the lottery thing, the Hope Scholarship.

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>If you have a B average, you get a couple

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of semesters paid for. So I did that, ended up

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 2>dropping out of school because I had no direction. I

0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>had no idea what I wanted to do. I was

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>failing classes, so I just got in construction heating, in

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>air installation. I was working in a fabric warehouse for

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 2>several years, and I was just listening to sports talk

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>radio every day. And I'm early twenties by that point,

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>approaching mid twenties, Like, still no idea what I want

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to do, And I just remember so vividly. Nick Saban

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 2>got hired at Baman in O seven. He came to Columbus.

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 2>He spoke in Columbus, and I borrowed forty five dollars

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't have any money to go. And he

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>spoke that night about some stuff that wasn't revolutionary. Like

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>clearly the message had been disseminated before Sabin said it

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 2>that night, but I had never had it click with me,

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 2>the idea of how to properly set goals, how to

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>put the goals to decide, how to engage in process

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>oriented thinking, how to inventory your time and convert time

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 2>spent into time invested. I'm just like mind blown. It's

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>just a higher level of thinking that I never knew existed.

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 2>So I knew, Man, you got to either make a decision.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 2>It's the Tracy Chapman kind of lyrically like, we got

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>to make a decison or live and die this way. That's

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of how it was. And so your mid twenties,

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 2>you realize you're not a kid anymore. You look around

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and there's so many people if you grow up in

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>a small town anywhere in this country, there's so many

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 2>people who have never left. And there's not anything wrong

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 2>with that, but you can kind of sense like an

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 2>aura of what could have been, maybe even an aura

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>of regret. And you know you're about to become another

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 2>one of those. And so I got my act together,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and I know I've got talent to do something. And

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I know I love sports talk radio, I love sports media.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I consume college football year round. I love it. I'm

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 2>immersed in it. Could I ever do this for a living?

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just like beaten down the door of the

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>local radio affiliate, the ESPN radio affiliate in Columbus. It

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 2>was WIOL fifteen eighty the zone in Columbus. So the

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>program director just let me come in to observe, which

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>is all I wanted to do. Truthfully, I was not

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>begging to be put on air at all. I wanted

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 2>to come in and like, if I could sit in

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the corner and here right now and observe pre deduction happening.

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I'd never seen it before, so I went in there.

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I did that for like a month or two. Maybe.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.239
<v Speaker 2>One morning it's during football season. His co host calls in,

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>can't make it in. It's like five minutes to airtime.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Last minute, I'm out, So he has no time for

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 2>a backup plan, and he just threw me on area said,

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 2>do you want to hop on air today?

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the fantasy. It's awesome. I didn't know how awesome

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it was that day, but you were terrified of that.

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I really wasn't no time. If he would have given

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 2>me a day, I would have been terrified.

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>He gave me five minutes.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>So I do the show. It's awesome, man. It's afternoon

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 2>drive caller based radio in the South during football season.

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a layup. It's like it's easy, and it was

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 2>so natural. So after we got done with the show,

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>he because the program director was also the host of

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>the show, he asked, where have you worked before? So

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I'd never worked before, But he thought I was lying

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:51.959
<v Speaker 2>when I said I'd never worked anywhere before. Because if

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>you go back to the Sabans thing from a few

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>years earlier, Saban talked about defining your goals and then

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>converting some of the time you're spending aka waste during

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>your day to time invested, so repurpose that time to

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>align with your goal. My goal was I wanted to

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 2>do this for a living. I realized, I'm driving around

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 2>in my truck sixty to ninety minutes per day just

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>listening to music, which is fine, but I'm not getting

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 2>anything out of that. How do I invest that time?

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 2>The way I invested it was I just simulated sports

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 2>talk radio. I would turn on Mike and Mike or

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Colin Cowherd or someone, let them begin a segment, and

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>then hit mute and I'd pick it up where they

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>left off. Did it for a year and a half

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 2>to two years, not knowing that it was going to

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>lead to one day me just being thrown on air

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>like that was my big break. I didn't know what

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 2>it was coming. The morning I woke up, the dude

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 2>thought I had done it for a living because I

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 2>had gotten hundreds of hours of reps just doing it

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>my truck. So I never get taken off air, and

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I do radio for a couple of years, then local

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 2>TV calls and I do local sports and doing my

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>own local college football show. That becomes being their news

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>anchor for a couple of years.

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. Yeah, you were the news anchor from sitting

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>in and just being able to hop on the air

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>right even that if the story ends right there, what

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 1>a story that is?

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 2>That's what I said at the time of story.

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>That you Yeah, you're the news anchor. Yeah, but you're

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>doing Did you like doing news? No?

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't like doing news because it's it's news.

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Was it going to raise from sports to the anchor though?

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:22.919
<v Speaker 1>Is that why you took the job?

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think I went from I went from twenty

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 2>seven thousand dollars a year twenty four thousand dollars a

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 2>year to thirty thousand dollars a year to anchor news,

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.439
<v Speaker 2>which if you're not making any money, is a lot

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>of money. But that's that's about eleven or twelve years ago.

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 2>That's where we are on the timeline right now, and

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 2>that's when it all started to happen, because that's when

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 2>podcasting is really starting to become a thing. That's when

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Facebook Live becomes a thing. That's when YouTube live becomes

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 2>a thing. So, as you well know, if you were

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>in our industry up to that point, if you were

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>ever gonna do any kind of national anything, you had

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 2>to have massive overhead and distribution. You had to have

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>someone with the keys to really really fancy production facilities,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 2>and you had to have a syndication.

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Deal, yeah, the gatekeepers.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 2>You had to be on network like that was it.

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 2>And in my world of sports media, if you're not

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 2>from Syracuse J School or Northwestern Missouri, chances are you're

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>not going to make it. So to that point in time,

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>it just looked like a dead end to me. And

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, then all those barriers just break down,

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>like Berlin Wall's coming down, and you realize, if YouTube

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>live is going to be a thing, that means distribution's

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>the Internet, and that means overheads in your hand, because

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 2>theoretically you could just go live from anywhere. So I

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 2>started doing a college football show. I would literally go

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 2>in the control room because it looks fancy after the newscasts,

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 2>and I would set up my phone, I would go

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 2>live and I would just start doing it in the

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 2>last for two weeks and management at the TV station said,

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 2>you can't do that. That's a brieki.

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>You wagged a finger in the face.

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 2>So I had to wait a whole year until my

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:00.040
<v Speaker 2>contract was up, and they wanted to renew me and

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 2>bump me to thirty five per year, and I said, no,

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>not if I can't do this, because like, my future

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 2>clearly is not being a news anchor. My future is

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>doing this, and they thought I was bluffing. So he

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 2>get to the last day of my contract and they

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 2>called me news director and GM called me into the

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>office and said, are you going to sign the contract

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 2>or not. I was like, I already told you know,

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 2>and they said, but what are you going to do?

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 2>They thought I was going to a rival station, That's

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>what they thought. And I said, no, I told you

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 2>what I'm going to do. I'm going to start a

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel. And their first words to me were, but

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>what are you going to do for money? Because this

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 2>is twenty fifteen. No one's monetizing YouTube At that point.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 2>It was a foreign concept, but you could tell it

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 2>was coming. I thought it was coming like it was

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 2>easy to see where the industry was going to go.

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 2>So we arrived in an agreement where I would stay

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>on to be their news anchor, but work as an

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 2>independent contractor making far less. But the trade off, which

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 2>was gold, was they'll give me the studio for three

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 2>nights per week to produce anything I want to out

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>of it on my channels.

0:36:59.000 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 2>So we started doing the college football show and it

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 2>took a few years for us to grow it, but

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 2>then it really blew up. In twenty nineteen, Joe Burrow

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 2>in LSU season, it really blows up. CBS sees it

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>and calls me and they offered me a job. I

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 2>moved to Nashville right before twenty twenty. I start a

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:21.280
<v Speaker 2>new channel from scratch, but under their umbrella, COVID sets

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>in world of sports go dark. Everybody who has a

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>sports show starts talking about things they have no business

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 2>talking about. I stuck to college football a bunch of

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 2>alienated audiences came to our show because we just talked

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 2>about college football. Shows scaled immediately. Executives come back to

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>work eight months later and realized, Wow, this show is

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 2>already making money. Don't touch it, leave it alone. So ironically,

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>because of COVID, we got to do the show the

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 2>way we wanted to, instead of having a lot of

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 2>corporate hands in the kitchen. And we proved the concept

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 2>really quickly, and I got a new contract one year in.

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I got a new contract another year in after that,

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and really it came time to negotiate ownership of IP,

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 2>ownership of assets because I knew, I mean, the show

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 2>is blown up. By twenty twenty three, it had already

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 2>since blown up. And I knew, if I go one

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 2>more contract, I'll make a lot of money, but I

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>will never own this. And I went back and forth

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 2>with CBS, because CBS offered me an astronomical amount of

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 2>money to just sign a five year deal, and I

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>said no, and I countered with a number that was

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>far less but also included ownership of my channels and

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 2>my feeds and my IP. And we went back and

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.399
<v Speaker 2>forth for six months and it was no, no, no,

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>no no, And then it was Yes, they just caved

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and I signed for another year with them that ended

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty four, and I went out on my

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 2>own and now it's my everything. I own the production company,

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>we produced the show. And now you live in a

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 2>world where you do your show, you own it, you

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 2>sell it, you do everything that there is to do

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 2>with it, and then you just like if ESPN calls

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and says we want to sign you to a talent deal,

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 2>you just go do a talent deal with them. It's

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>like the best of all worlds. But it took a

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>long time to get there.

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 1>That three years where you're building and there's not a

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of movement probably was exciting. Were there's stagnant moments

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 1>where you wondered if that was the right decision.

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I got evicted. I had no money. I was

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 2>beyond broke. I had no money because I had lowered

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.839
<v Speaker 2>down to making because I was making like twenty four

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 2>when I started as as a sports anchor. I ended

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>up making less than that on the upgraded news anchor

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 2>independent contract deal. So I wasn't making YouTube revenue yet,

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm making less than twenty five thousand dollars

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to do odd jobs to just like

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>make ends meet, and they're not really meeting. And that's

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, you say that really quick. It takes me

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 2>forty five seconds to say that. But that's a solid

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>three year chunk of your life where you've jumped out

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 2>of the plane and you're pulling the cord and the

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>parachute's not immediately coming open. You still got a little ways.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 2>You still hope it'll open, but you don't know. I

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 2>just believed in the concept so much like I'm not

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>someone who constantly has the light bulb go off above

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 2>his head, so when it does happen, I pay attention

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 2>to it. And that's one of the moments where it happened.

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 2>It was just so clear to me, you're driving through

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 2>thick fog right now, but if you'll keep your foot

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>on the gas, it will clear up. And it eventually

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>cleared up, and you know, very similar to how I

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 2>told you that day at the radio station, happened where

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you wake up that morning you have no clue. It's

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest days of your life. The day

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>that Shannon Terry called me, who was running twenty four

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 2>to seven Sports at the time, which was owned by

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 2>CBS the day he called me and offered me that job.

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea that call was coming on that day.

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like two or three of the biggest breaks in

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 2>my professional career have come on days I would have

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 2>least suspected anything big to happen that day.

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 5>The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 5>the Bobby Cast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny when people talk about luck or even breaks,

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's how we have to refer to them.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>But when you talk about you getting hey, we got

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>to go on in five minutes, you were ready for that,

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I think about I was working in a much lesser

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>capacity on American Idol. I was on every episode, but

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't the host. Yep and Secrets was sick and

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>he's never been sick ever. And it were ten minutes

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:17.839
<v Speaker 1>before going on in your live and they go, hey,

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to fill in. And it wasn't nervous because

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have time to be right. And then not

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>only that I had done so many freaking hours getting

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>ready that I wasn't. I never got nervous, like I

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>was built to do that. Afterward, I was like, oh

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>my god, can you After it was over, I think back,

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and I just think, I'm so glad they didn't give

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 1>me a day to think ahead of time and to

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>try to plan what I was going to do and

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 1>say because again I had done all the reps, that

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it was so natural that the only reason I didn't

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>ruin it is because I was going off of instinct

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and repetition.

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>That's why every great coach will always try and drilling you.

0:41:56.800 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Just trust your preparation. Trust your preparation. If you're not prepared,

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>you got a whole different set of issues. If you're prepared,

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 2>the only thing they can get in your way is

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 2>what your mind tries to do to you. That's why

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about, what I'm talking about the sweet

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 2>spot is have it come out of nowhere, because if

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 2>you're prepared, it doesn't matter if it comes out of nowhere,

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>you'll handle it fine. And the same opportunity may be

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 2>presented to you a week earlier. You're still as prepared

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>in scenario B a scenario A, but in scenario B,

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 2>when you got a week to think about it, your

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>mind can mess you up, which is why the best

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 2>who are in the coaching capacity always tell you forget

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>about that just trust your preparation. Trust your preparation, because

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. When we were doing local news,

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 2>I will tell you the one thing I loved about

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 2>local news, which is otherwise so monotonous and boring to

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 2>me because you're reading a teleprompter all day. I loved

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 2>breaking news because then we got to ad lib, and

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 2>that's the only thing that was fun to me. Now,

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 2>if it's a story about like a triple homicide or something,

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the story's not fun. But that's the only time I

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 2>felt alive. Otherwise I'm doing morning shifts. You gotta wake

0:42:58.080 --> 0:42:59.959
<v Speaker 2>up a three thirty in the morning to go into

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 2>on air at five. You're trying to keep yourself awake

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 2>during breaks. That's when I first started drinking coffee. I'd

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 2>never consumed it before. I only started drinking coffee because

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 2>it was on air every morning at five o'clock, not

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 2>doing something I necessarily love to do.

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like you were lucky that morning, and I

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like I was lucky that evening. I feel

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 1>like eventually our opportunity was going to hit us, and

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it was when that opportunity met all the work that

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>we had put into it. I do feel like, eventually

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I was going to have an opportunity like that, regardless

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 1>if it was that night or another time. I feel

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>like eventually you were going to have an opportunity like that,

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>if it was that time or another time, but you

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>were ready for it. And I think because some people go, man,

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>how lucky was that? I mean, lucky would be if

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd never done it yep, and never prepared for it

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and then kind of killed it out of nowhere. But

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't lucky that I had spent freaking ten years

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 1>doing every small, stupid red carpet job, every prompter job,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>begging to be on dog network, and then it happened.

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 2>I'll say that experience for me totally changed phrasing that

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 2>comes out of my mouth. I used to say things

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 2>like right place, right time. I used to say that

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 2>all the time. It just rolls off the tongue, sounds good.

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a catch all. I never say it anymore.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Right place, right times. If you win the lottery, right place,

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 2>right time, that's pure luck. If someone's achieving something professionally,

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the much greater likelihood is they put themselves in the

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 2>right place for an extended period of time and then

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the right time finally found them. That's the plus side

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>of that equation. The downside, the flip side of the

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 2>coin is wrong place, wrong time works the exact same way.

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 2>If you traffic in bad habits for long enough, then

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.280
<v Speaker 2>the wrong time will eventually find you. If you surround

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>yourself with the wrong people frequently enough, the wrong time

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.399
<v Speaker 2>will eventually find you. And I used to not think

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 2>like that. I used to think, oh, it's just a

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 2>perfect confluence of events. Sometimes, yes, far more.

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Often no, Yeah, I've on this show, You've been had

0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>people on and I will argue the concept of luck

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:01.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's the most boring thing you've ever heard.

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 4>In your life.

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And everyone starts to roll their eyes, and then I go, well,

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't really define what luck is until someone dies,

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 1>because one thing can lead into another and by and

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>it's just terrible. It's like the worst content you could

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>ever imagine. But I like you treated differently, and it

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>was going to happen for me eventually anyway, because I

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 1>was ready for it, same with you. You were ready

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>for it. It just happened to be that morning. How crazy

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:22.800
<v Speaker 1>of a story, though, that's an awesome story.

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I will say one thing about luck if I was

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.359
<v Speaker 2>the person I am, but I was born in nineteen

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>seventy three, because of the difference in the media landscape

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>versus what it ended up being. To me, that's maybe

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of luck, because that's not a controllable

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>of mine. That's if I were if any of us

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 2>were born in thirteen eighty two, you know, for example,

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 2>like you were very blessed to be born to who

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 2>you are, where you are when you are, or I

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 2>am at least because those things are out of my control.

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Some of the other stuff that's in my control. You're right,

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to really view that so much as luck.

0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 2>If you catch a good break, like thankful for it,

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 2>but also understand it's not a coincidence when you look

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 2>around in your life and some people seem to catch

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of lucky breaks and other people seem to always,

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote, be unlucky.

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 1>You're talking like Bill Gates was just happened to be

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>around the computer that was within three hundred, right. So

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>with me, I started very young, and people would give

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>me the credit of being Wow, this guy's way. Hey.

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I was podcasting in two thousand and five, and I

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>was dedicated to it. But it wasn't that I was

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 1>so much smarter. I was just living my life. I

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 1>was young, and so that's what we did. We listen

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>to podcasts. I was doing podcasts, and they'd be like,

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>this guy is doing things nobody else does. No, No,

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I just happened to be born at the right time,

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>So I can give you that. But i'd a rock

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 1>in thirteen hundreds. I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah. No, yeah,

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>for sure. And if there's an apocalypse, now find me.

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:50.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I think we'd be a pretty good team.

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 2>You think, so.

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna rule, but you can be my guy. You

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>take care of that.

0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 2>We'll figure that out.

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>He's the muscle.

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Is a lot more time for softball, not much else

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to do.

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I do congratulations on the ESPN show. Thank you, I

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. That's so cool. So you're going to campuses?

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Is that going to be game days or you go?

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Guys going in.

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 2>They gave us full selection, so we get to go

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.759
<v Speaker 2>wherever we want. I would suppose sometimes that'll be where

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 2>game day is, other times will be where they aren't.

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I guess, I mean, is it going to be

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>actual just on game day? Or do you go in

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the day before, gotcha?

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, So what we'll do is we'll have

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 2>a show there on ESPN on Friday, and the show

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>will eminate live from whatever campus we're on Friday. From

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 2>that point, I'm always going to be at a game Saturday,

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 2>so I may stay at that campus where we are

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 2>if it's like a noon kickoff the next day, I'll

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:49.879
<v Speaker 2>do this a lot, like I'll do the noon game

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 2>and then I'll go somewhere else for the primetime kickoff,

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 2>which is absolute dream scenario for someone who grew up

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 2>loving college football. So but yeah, we're going to be

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 2>at a game and the Friday show will be live

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 2>at campus of one of the big games in the country.

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Was there a debate on whose name got to go

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>first busting or pay because I'd have gone Payton bussing,

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's me.

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I think names are overrated in this sense, and like,

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 2>so we didn't argue at all about it all. Here's

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 2>what was funny. We were on a meeting Will Taylor

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 2>myself or on a meeting with ESPN one morning and

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 2>news leaks about the show coming out. We have no

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 2>idea what the show is because we're on a meeting

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:28.759
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out the name of the show, and

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 2>so like we're looking at Front Off. I think it

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:33.280
<v Speaker 2>was Front Office Sports or OutKick that leaked the story,

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and Lwan like his his instinct is I'm gonna retweet

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 2>it and said, that's cool. What's the name of the show,

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 2>because we didn't know.

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>And so we're starting to figure it out. That was

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 1>where a lot of suggestions came in. That funny so

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>it's busting and pay on campus. So so it's called

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>on campus with bus busting and paid on campus three times. Okay,

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll get your sticker busting and pay on campus and

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:00.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be doing the show. I was on Friday,

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to stay out on Saturdays. Let's see

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 1>your stuff. I have a story about each of those guys.

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know Taylor at all, Lawan, but I forgive me.

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I was landing back at the private airport and I

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 1>gave the I was like, hey, I'm here to pick

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 1>up my car, and so they bring it to you,

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I got in and I had a rental

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 1>because somebody had hit me in my car, and so

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I got in and I drove. I don't know third

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:29.879
<v Speaker 1>of the way home and I realized, same kind of car.

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>This ain't my car. There was just like something weird

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in the middle. And then I realized the cup holders

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>weren't the same because the rental they gave me wasn't

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the car that I'm used to. But I had it

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 1>for like a week and it was a I don't want,

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Doc Taylor. It was a big black Suv YEP, and

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:48.879
<v Speaker 1>so I turned around, I drive it back and said,

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 1>this is not mine. They're like, oh yeah, sorry about that,

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and they go and they bring another one up. I

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 1>was driving the one's suv home.

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 2>The first thing that stands out to me about this

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 2>is that's a former NFL left tackle. The proportions of

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>the seat configuration alone very long.

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Guy, what do you want? I just want to.

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:07.400
<v Speaker 4>One of the guy that drove it to Bobby was

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 4>probably normal.

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:09.839
<v Speaker 2>Probably so I like the first one.

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I went to the doctor and uh six foot one recently, boy, absolutely,

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 1>thank you, So.

0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 2>You will do okay in the thirteen hundreds.

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying. The other one is I have met Will.

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:26.760
<v Speaker 1>We were at the Super Bowl and I was playing

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>with one of the barstool teams in the trivia, you know,

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>they do trivia, And I was on Brandon Walker's team

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's the only time I've met well. And he

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 1>was extremely nice. Who knew he was like the kindest guy.

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>He came up and we were talking about we just

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 1>had the bad weather here that we had to live

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in this place. It was so bad storm, yes, and

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about, you know how it just had

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>destroyed where we live. And he was really really nice.

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:52.839
<v Speaker 1>So I stole Lawan's car, but Compton was extremely nice

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to me. That's my two stories.

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Actually a pretty deep catalog of stories right out of

0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the pocket. You can relate to this, all right. I've

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 2>done solo stuff pretty much my whole media career. I

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 2>prefer it that way. It just far less things can

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 2>go wrong out of your control if you do solo.

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:13.320
<v Speaker 2>So like I always wondered, okay, what would that ensemble

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 2>dynamic be like? Though, here's the problem, all right, And

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 2>this is what local news taught me. Sometimes you have

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 2>great on air chemistry with people you don't really like

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 2>all that much, and you have terrible on air chemistry

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.400
<v Speaker 2>with people you do like. And it makes no sense

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 2>to someone who's never done this for a living. Because

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 2>you would think, oh, your buddies, that's who you'd get

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:34.439
<v Speaker 2>along with on air. And I had both of those

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 2>cases happen. So I thought to myself, Man, what a

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<v Speaker 2>shame if I ever tried it out and I found

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<v Speaker 2>people who I clicked with, but I didn't like them

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<v Speaker 2>all that much. So I start doing stuff with those

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<v Speaker 2>guys just last year is really when I started doing

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<v Speaker 2>stuff with them. In first fifteen minutes of first show

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<v Speaker 2>that you do, you realize I like them a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and Wow, there's a lot of synergy here, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just flowing. You can't create that in a lab. You either

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<v Speaker 2>got it with someone or you don't. The first show,

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<v Speaker 2>like we realized we got to put a protective fence

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<v Speaker 2>around this, Like we got to make sure this concept

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<v Speaker 2>right here because we all feel it, We all like it.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to have synergy with the people you like,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you can ever find that, those are the

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<v Speaker 2>ones you want to build franchises out of. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>two years into doing a little bit of that now.

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<v Speaker 1>And also reading between the lines, you told me that

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<v Speaker 1>Will and La want hate each other. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>got for it.

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<v Speaker 2>At least I'm there, Yes yes to keep it together.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming in. I love to hear your story.

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<v Speaker 1>I like for you to share it every so often,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with people that are watching and listening to me,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is you knew what you wanted, you sacrificed

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<v Speaker 1>to get there. You didn't have it easy even while

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<v Speaker 1>you were getting there, you made difficult decisions and you

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<v Speaker 1>got there, and so I like the story that resonates

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I feel like a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>listen to me and watch this stuff like they feel

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<v Speaker 1>that too. So thanks for sharing that. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wanted to talk to you before, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>the kid with a swimming pool that in the summer

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to be friends with the kid that has

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<v Speaker 1>from the pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I knew those kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and in college football time, you can't get you

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody everybody wants you. So it's before I when

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<v Speaker 1>I messaged you, I was like, let's go before you,

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<v Speaker 1>before this phone poll opens, Let's get Josh in. So

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you coming in. I'm rooting for you

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<v Speaker 1>because of what you come from and what you stand for.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I hope to show on the field with

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<v Speaker 1>Peter and Bussy. Who does really.

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<v Speaker 2>Great verbatim that I appreciate it, but you're killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a whole set up here, love it. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you having me over.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 5>There is the great Josh pat Love this episode of

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