1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: This is my legacy. In this week's bonus drop, WNBA 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: superstar Britney Griner and her wife Cherrelle opened up about 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: a love story that started with a chocolate milkshake mishap 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: and grew into something unshakable. They get real about the 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: public scrutiny, ruts, and counseling after Britney's two hundred and 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: ninety three days in a Russian prison. From navigating trauma 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: and finding their footing again to becoming parents and rediscovering joy, 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: their story is a testament to how love restores what 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: the world tries to break. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Let's jump in, Kurrell. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: You and Brittany have been married for seven years, but 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: you first met back in college. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, we want to hear about the love story, how 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: it all began. We met and went twenty eleven in college. 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 5: We have this they call it the sub This is 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 5: student union building at Baylor. And I'm really studious at 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 5: the time. I know I want to be an attorney. 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 5: I mean, I have a minor and a major, so 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 5: I'm I really am just like on. 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: A really strict schedule. 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 5: I work two jobs in undergrad and so I don't 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 5: have time to waste. So my day is pretty much 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 5: the same every day. And so I go in the 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 5: student union building right before I go to my English class, 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 5: and I just wanted to get a chocolate milkshake kind 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 5: of hold me over and so I can actually get lunch. 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 5: I go order milkshake and I'm waiting in line, like 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 5: you know, all the other students, and Brittany walks in 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 5: and she does not go to a line at all. 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: She walks in and everybody's just like hey, Beige. 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 5: And when I say everybody, I mean all of the workers, 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 5: because Beg's the type of person she's gonna walk in 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: a room and it doesn't matter. 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: Who you are, she's gonna say, how do you? 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 5: And so everybody in there knew her, from the janitor 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 5: to the people that work behind the registers, to everybody 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 5: that makes the food, the cooks, everyone. So she walks 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 5: in and it is like a party, like no one's talking. 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: To them, you know. But BG walks in and everybody's. 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 5: Like hey, they're coming out from the back, and I'm 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 5: just standing there like, okay, keep working, guys, Like class, 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: my milkshake. 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: I have to get to class. 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 5: So I'm standing there and I'm like all right, like 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 5: let's meet this up and out of nowhere, one of 46 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 5: them walks from the back with a milkshake in hand. 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 5: It is a chocolate milkshake because my eyes work and 48 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 5: I'm watching my milkshake be made right. 49 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: And so they come out from the back and they're 50 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: just like, oh, Beg, we got to shake for you. 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: Someone comes out from Chick Filanta like, Beg, we got 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 5: some nuggets for you, like, and everybody's just coming out 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 5: throwing her food. 54 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: She's ordered nothing. So I'm like, this is wild. 55 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 5: And so at that point, I was like, I have 56 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 5: time to wait for another one, like this is unfair injustice, Like, 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: let me handle this. So so I walk up to Veg, 58 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 5: who I've never met in my life. She's huge tall, 59 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 5: I'm really sure, and so like I tap her on 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 5: the back of her shoulder and she turns around, looks 61 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 5: down and like it's like huh, and I'm like. 62 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm pretty sure they just gave you my milkshake. 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, and I have to get to class. 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: I'm like so, and she was just like she could 65 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 5: have been mean, but she was actually extremely nice. 66 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 4: She was like, wait, this went oh, I'm so sorry, 67 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: and she. 68 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 5: Handed it to me, and I was like, oh my god, 69 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 5: now I probably look like a little jerk down here, 70 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 5: you know, And so I was like, you should make 71 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 5: a joke light in the mood. 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: So I was just like, do you remember my name? 73 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: And but she was like yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, 74 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: like she's personal. So she's really trying to sell it 75 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: that we've met. And so I was like, well, what 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: is it and she was like, ah, you got me. 77 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 5: She was like, if you say it again, I won't 79 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 5: forget it. And I was like, my name is Schrel. 80 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 5: I was like, we haven't met. I was like, but 81 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 5: I just had to light this up a little. 82 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: Bit because I was like, I don't want to look rude. 83 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 5: I was like, but I did eat that milkshake and 84 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: she was like, no, that's good. She was like, I 85 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 5: will never forget your name now. She was like that 86 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: was real good. And I walked out, paid for my 87 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 5: shake and left and after that I never thought we'd. 88 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: You know, cross paths again, but like she was hooked 89 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: guys and stuff. I just started asking everybody who. 90 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 6: I was all around campus. I'm asking everybody like who 91 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 6: is Schrell? Who is who is this girl? Who's the 92 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 6: no one could tell me who she was. I'm even 93 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 6: more intrigued, like I'm like, wait, somebody at campus and 94 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 6: no one knows who they are, like what? And she 95 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 6: was that nice, that polite. I was like, oh, I 96 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 6: gotta find her. 97 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And so that's how we met. But she 98 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 5: after asking everybody, no one knew at that point. She's like, 99 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 5: this little girl will definitely be back in this sub 100 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 5: union building, right, and so she just sat outside the 101 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 5: stupp Uton building around the same time. I kid you not, 102 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 5: I can never go to that sub at that time, 103 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 5: and not going into BG. 104 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: She was always there every. 105 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 5: Day and she would like, yell my name and I 106 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 5: do not like attention, okay, Like I am in and 107 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: out type of girl. 108 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: And did you a young like Cherrelle? Is that you? 109 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: Hey Cherrell? Across campus? She wouldn't wait for me to 110 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 4: come up and say hi. She would do it a 111 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: minute she saw. 112 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 6: I'm yelling across the campus. Because she actually dressed like 113 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 6: I was. I was that athlete, that kind of just 114 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 6: athletic where until the teacher said, hey, dress up, you 115 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 6: know you got a presentation. She dressed up every single day, 116 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 6: like to the tea business casual, looked amazing, like respectfully, 117 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 6: like everything was just amazing, and so I would yell out, 118 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 6: you look really nice today. 119 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: I love your scar. 120 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna stop until you say hi. And she 121 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 6: would be like she would give me like a quick 122 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 6: little like oh my god, like hi, I stop, and I'd. 123 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Be like, okay. 124 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: I was so one tracked mine at that time, Like 125 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 5: I was just like I can't afford to be a Baylor. 126 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 5: I'm on a scholarship her, I just gotta do this 127 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 5: anymore anything, you know, Like I just wasn't into that 128 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 5: type of stuff. 129 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: And so I didn't know who she was. 130 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 5: I just knew she was athlete, and they have a stereotype, 131 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 5: you know, and so I was just like, no, like, 132 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 5: you know, we're not the same. And so after what 133 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 5: maybe like two weeks, she realized our English class was 134 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 5: beside each other. 135 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: She started going to English class. Go to kids go 136 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: to go to class. Kids started going to English class. 137 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 5: But before she ago, she would always come inside my 138 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 5: classroom next door and say hi, share. 139 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: And my professor would be like, you know Brittany Grinder, 140 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, I don't you do know Brittany 141 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 4: grand And like and Britney's at. 142 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 5: The door like hi, shar High and I would say hi, 143 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 5: and that would be it. 144 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: Like we finally were friends at that point because I 145 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: was like, this has to. 146 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: Do you have matching tattoos? We do, okay, we got 147 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: like two. 148 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: This one in Russia. Actually we did get. 149 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: This put up and tell us about that. 150 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: So I lived in Russia for a year with right 151 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: after I used to be a teacher and so I 152 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 5: knew I was going to law school and I got accepted, 153 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: and that's when BG was like we should date again, 154 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: Like please, I don't want to be a friend anymore. 155 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: She wanted to be out of the friend zone. 156 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 5: I was like, I can't do friend anymore. And so 157 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 5: I was like, well, you know what, They'll let me 158 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 5: defer a year. And so I deferred law school for 159 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: a year actually, and I didn't work to do anything 160 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 5: because Big. 161 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: Was like, just don't work, don't do anything. 162 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 5: You just got done teaching in a real career, Like 163 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 5: take a year off and just come with me for 164 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 5: the year. And so I lived in Russia with her 165 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 5: like and just relaxed for the year before I actually 166 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: started law school. 167 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: And so were you thinking, I mean obviously, what do 168 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: you think about Russia at that point? And what do 169 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: you look back at things? 170 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: I mean, to be very honest, like. 171 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 5: Life grows you up, it makes you see things in 172 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 5: a different lens. Yes, and so if I just go 173 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 5: back to the lens that I naively used to wear 174 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: before Big was wrongfully detained, because I didn't know that 175 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 5: that was a world in my mind that only happens 176 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 5: in movies. 177 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: Okay, it was amazing, like and so we went over there. 178 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 5: It was I love seeing different cultures. I love being 179 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 5: immersed in them. They treated them better than they treated 180 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: them in the US as professional women athletes who play basketball. 181 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: So it was. 182 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 5: When I say, like the treatment that NBA players get here, 183 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 5: that's what w NBA players get there. And so it 184 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 5: was actually like an upclass to me, like from what 185 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 5: we experienced in the States when it comes to basketball. 186 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 5: And so I loved it. I enjoyed my time there, 187 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 5: and we have fun there, like I mean, yeah, and 188 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 5: but I didn't know about their It's crazy to think 189 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 5: this because I am an attorney, but I did know 190 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 5: about their judicial system. I actually it didn't matter to me, 191 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: So I just didn't bother to realize that we were 192 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: actually going into a really dangerous country. I had no 193 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 5: idea like that never crossed my mind. But I'll tell 194 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 5: you this, I'll never travel somewhere and not know who 195 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: runs that country and what I'm dealing with. 196 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: This actually places that I think are beautiful that I 197 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: don't want to go to anymore. 198 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 7: And I assume both of you have never been back, 199 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 7: so I don't think they would let us. 200 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: You're not watching like you know. 201 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 6: We haven't left. The only time I left the country 202 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 6: since I came back was the Olympics when we went 203 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 6: to went to France, bought a gold, brought the gold medal, 204 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 6: So that was a little different. I was trying with 205 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 6: the US delegation exactly. 206 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 7: That's even not like the country since that point. 207 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 6: No, No, that's so many beautiful places right here in 208 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 6: the USA. Yeah, no, we're gonna visit all those places 209 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 6: we've never visited here. 210 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: What do your tattoos say? 211 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 8: Oh? 212 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 5: Read first, so mine says you see all my light 213 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 5: and you love all my dark. 214 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: Lake, Follow and subscribe to my Legacy podcast, and most importantly, 215 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: share this with someone who needs a reminder of their 216 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: strength today. 217 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 8: Now back to my legacy. 218 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: Asking that question. 219 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 7: It's just kind of my heart like just tightened a 220 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 7: minute when you said you didn't think everyone would be 221 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 7: happy when you came back. Can I understand where that 222 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 7: came from? 223 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, the trade, you know, not everybody. Everybody has their 224 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 6: own ideas and everybody has their own views, and with 225 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 6: a phone and a keyboard, you know, everybody can feel 226 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 6: like they're important to voice whatever that statement is. And 227 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 6: sometimes they just shouldn't say it because it's just mean 228 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 6: and that's all it is. But yeah, there was people 229 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 6: that were, you know, upset about it or didn't take 230 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 6: the time to learn the whole story, and all they 231 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 6: saw was a headline and then they made their they 232 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 6: got their whole idea from a headline, you know. So 233 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 6: I had to deal with you know, all those all 234 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 6: that those type of people. 235 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: And to be clear, this is extremely political, and so 236 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 5: if you are privy, and if you're not privy. 237 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: Anything dealing with politics, I realized. 238 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 5: It comes with a lot of risk management safety wise, 239 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 5: because people feel strongly about the side that they have 240 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 5: and so we got a crash course in politics when 241 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 5: BG was wrongfully detained. Because a lot of people feel 242 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 5: really strongly about the fact that I don't care was 243 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 5: a medical marijuana. I don't care if she was allowed 244 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 5: to have it in the US. She knew she shouldn't 245 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 5: have it there, and so she should do every single 246 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 5: second of the time that they give her. I don't 247 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: care if it's outrageous number. And they stand on that 248 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 5: and they're they're they're hateful about the fact that that 249 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 5: was not what God had in his will for her, 250 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 5: and so the risk management goes extremely high when you 251 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 5: now have people who hate what God did for you 252 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 5: in God's name. By the way, gay, they're going to 253 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: have a cross in their bio, don't worry. Okay, they 254 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: did all this in God's image, Okay, but yeah, they're 255 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 5: they're extremely vocal about it. And all it takes is 256 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: one person to actually stand on the hatred inside of 257 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 5: their heart. And we see it every day, you know, 258 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 5: even if we don't you know, allow it to consume us, 259 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 5: we still see it. And you know, it's a risk 260 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 5: management factor now for us that we always have to 261 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 5: considers the fact that people hate the fact that the 262 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 5: will that God had for her says she will come home. 263 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: They don't like that. 264 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 6: Would you feel safe now, No, not, not entirely no, no, 265 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 6: not after not after everything, the threats, the what we 266 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 6: what we've seen and dealt with. No, we know, you know, 267 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 6: we're not oblivious to a threat that you know is 268 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 6: out there. But yeah, no, it's just we move differently 269 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 6: and we take the right precautions. 270 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 8: Are there other things that you all have done other 271 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 8: than the Army's program that are to protect your mental 272 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 8: peace and mental health both of you. 273 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 6: Counseling. I mean, I'm a big advocate for counseling. Even 274 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 6: if everything's going great. I think someone should just have 275 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: somebody to talk to that you know, isn't a part 276 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 6: of their everyday life, you know, just just to hear, 277 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 6: bounce ideas off, whatever it is. But I definitely have 278 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 6: been using you know, a counselor and just talking. And 279 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 6: it's not every day now, but you know, if something 280 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 6: popped up or I feel I can feel that feeling 281 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 6: of things just being weird or off, uh shoot, or 282 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 6: a text hey can we talk and you know, she'll 283 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 6: call me and we'll talk or we'll text or we'll 284 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 6: do whatever whatever it is. So still using my counselor. 285 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I would. 286 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: Say that and then just time away from it all. 287 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 4: So we it was a lot. Honestly, I kind of 288 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: still think it's a lot. So I know, in. 289 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 5: What like three or four days, it will technically make 290 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 5: three years, but I kid you not, it still feels 291 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 5: like I just opened my eye, like like it doesn't 292 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 5: feel like three years has passed because I think we're 293 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 5: just now getting to a point of stability. You know, 294 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 5: we had to move, like our address was given every 295 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 5: time weg walked in court, and so I'm wondering why 296 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 5: things are popping up at the house. I don't feel 297 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 5: safe at the house, like it's random people knocking on 298 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: my door, like all of these things. 299 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: And so we moved, like and I. 300 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 5: Just feel like since she's come back, we've probably moved 301 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 5: like seven times. Like it's just been so much happening, 302 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: you know, trying to find you know, what are new 303 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 5: is and getting that solid ground and the stability of 304 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 5: it all. And so we try and obviously do separate 305 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 5: counseling and just make sure we're both well as individual persons. 306 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 4: But then you got to. 307 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 5: Remember, like our relationship took a ten year, I mean 308 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 5: a ten month like you know, hiatus from each other, 309 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 5: and so you know, trying to make sure we find 310 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 5: times in the midst of all the speed, even a 311 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 5: chaos of life, to kind of slow down, stop and 312 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 5: just do nothing. 313 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: With each other. 314 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: Can we still sit in silence? 315 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 8: Yeah? 316 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: Like we look each other and the I like, you know, 317 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 5: and these are things that you know, we had to 318 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 5: prioritize as well, like finding moments to go back and 319 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 5: doing that nothing together because that's what we started at, 320 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: you know, our friendship in college. We started at doing 321 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: nothing and I'm like, do we still got that? 322 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 8: Like? 323 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 5: And so that was another huge thing for us. It's 324 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 5: just the quality time and stepping away from like, oh my. 325 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: God, you were in Russia. 326 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: I'm Joe, sorry about that, and it's just like we 327 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 5: can't escape it. We can't, you know, that's not healing 328 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 5: for us. And so we had to. 329 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: Really figure out how to silence all of that. 330 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: What role does faith play for both of you? 331 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 5: All? 332 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 6: Huge? Huge And I again I give credit to my wife. 333 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 6: You know, I had some people not do faith the 334 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 6: right way and before you know, and it made me question, 335 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 6: it made me kind of just push it back. But 336 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 6: my wife showed me the good side of the church 337 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 6: to be completely honest, and I fell in love with it. 338 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 6: And you know, the whole time I was over there, 339 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 6: I felt more into my word. Took me a while 340 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 6: to get my Bible, but once I got it, I 341 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 6: mean I was every single day I was in it, 342 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 6: and it honestly got me through a lot of the 343 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 6: dark times as well. And then coming back still staying 344 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 6: in it. I mean, yeah, the Lord is in our 345 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 6: house strong. 346 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. I grew up extremely Southern Baptist, and so. 347 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 5: I was always told that, you know, when they're going 348 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 5: gets tough, you could always call friends, and you could 349 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 5: always do those type of things, of course. 350 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 6: But. 351 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 5: Being still and sitting with God is always going to 352 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 5: be my first option. 353 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: And that's what I did. 354 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 5: And so everybody was calling and wanted to check, and 355 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 5: all of the above other people that knew me best, 356 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: they understood the posture that I was about to take, 357 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 5: and it was not to be on my phone all day. 358 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 5: So I was much more of a I'm not about 359 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: to answer these phone calls, but I am about to 360 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 5: be on my knees and I'm about to be praying. 361 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 5: And so people tell me all the time they pray 362 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 5: for us, and so I'm gonna just say it in 363 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 5: the mic, thank you. I needed every single last one 364 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 5: of them. And I don't take things like that for granted. 365 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 5: And God said, when two people come together, he's in 366 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 5: that room. And so I'm just grateful for everybody that 367 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: thought to turn to him and not pick up that 368 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 5: phone and gossip about it, because I truly believe that 369 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 5: while everybody saw me advocated and things like that, like, 370 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: it was nothing but God that got me in those rooms. 371 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 5: There was nothing but God that allowed people to even 372 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 5: resonate with my voice because people they learned who my 373 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 5: wife was because of me, you know, and I understood 374 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 5: what I was doing. I understood what we are BG meant, 375 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 5: and I wanted people to put themselves in the we 376 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 5: and really connect with her. And the only way that 377 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 5: happened was because of God. You know, like empathy and 378 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 5: things like that, that doesn't happen without love, and that's 379 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 5: a God trait. 380 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 4: So I'm grateful. 381 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 9: Okay, So you all have a little boy, Bash who's 382 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 9: just over a year old, and Cherrelle, I want to 383 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 9: ask you to please give us a glimpse into into 384 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 9: you all's life at home in Brittany as a parent 385 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 9: that people might be surprised by. 386 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: Oh, that's such a goin. 387 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 5: I think people would be surprised, but honestly, the way 388 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 5: Beg shows up as a parent, she works her butt off, 389 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 5: you know, and so to the point where you know, 390 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 5: I during season, you know, I told Gg like I 391 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: got it. You don't want buy anything in his house, 392 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 5: Like I got this. 393 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: You take all. 394 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 5: Your time and energy and you know, like put it 395 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 5: into what we both No one day has to stop, 396 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 5: you know, like we all will age, you know, and 397 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 5: we're all going to age out if we're doing some 398 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 5: type of physical activity. 399 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: You know, sport is our job, and so I'm like 400 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: focus on that. Be just like okay, great, you know. 401 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 5: No, she still comes home literally after games, after practice 402 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 5: and we'll go in there and be like you stay 403 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 5: like bash crime middle of night and I am getting 404 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 5: up droopy ot and be just like no, like. 405 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 4: Ah, we'll get up. 406 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 5: We'll go in there ten to bash at nights, I 407 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 5: get some rests, like and I'm just you know, I'm 408 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: amazed by things like that because I'm like, you don't 409 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 5: have to do that. I've said you didn't have to 410 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 5: do that, you know, But her ability to like understand 411 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 5: the like okay, like I'm in here krembling because my 412 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 5: baby is a lot like she she she finds the 413 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 5: time to like notice it, like and she feels in 414 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 5: like whenever she is home, like you. 415 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: Just got off a two week road trip. 416 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 5: Come home and rest is what I'm wanting her to do, 417 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 5: But instead she comes home and she's right in to it, 418 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: and I'm just like, yeah, tired, like, you know, want 419 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 5: to sit down a second, And she's like no, She's like, 420 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 5: I missed him, I missed y'all, like, and she just 421 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 5: gets right into it. 422 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: And Bash lights up like he loves it. 423 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 5: But yeah, like her ability to like go to work 424 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 5: and then turn work off and come home and jump 425 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 5: right into it. 426 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: He has no idea who his parent is yet, you know, 427 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: he doesn't know. I know. So I'm like, you're tired, 428 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: but no, he'll never know. 429 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 5: Like BG comes in and just gets after it, and 430 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 5: I love that. 431 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 9: Well, let's give you your roses because we have to acknowledge 432 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 9: that you were named one of Marie Claire's power Moms. 433 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: That's pretty attacked. 434 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 4: It was. It was definitely under that. It meant the 435 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: absolute world to me. 436 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 5: So I love Bash and I don't take motherhood lightly 437 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 5: at all. 438 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: So I don't think you take a lot of things 439 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: like that. 440 00:20:54,920 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, So, Britney, what about Sharon as a mom do 441 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 9: you admire. 442 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: The most? 443 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: Well, let me. 444 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 6: Start with before even even conceiving the amount of preparation 445 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 6: Real took. I'm sorry I call her real, but the 446 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 6: amount that real took going into it, I'm talking about, like, 447 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 6: way before even thinking about doing it. She's like, Okay, 448 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 6: I have to start working out way way more. 449 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: Now. 450 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 6: I gotta stop eating this with you because I'll sit 451 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 6: up and eat junk food. She's like, I can't do 452 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 6: this with you anymore. And she did all this stuff 453 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 6: and you know, gave us this healthy, beautiful baby boy, 454 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 6: and watching her through birth and how strong she was 455 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 6: and just getting through all that, Like I was blown 456 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 6: away for one. Let's just start there still big and 457 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 6: then just just the every day, like the day to 458 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 6: day how she said that, you know, in the season, 459 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 6: she'll just take on this role of everything bash And 460 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 6: that's that's a lot like that. I mean, anybody that 461 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 6: has kids, it's a lot. It's full time job on 462 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 6: top of starting her own law firm, just restudying for 463 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 6: the bar again. I mean, she's doing all this and 464 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 6: taking care of a one year old. I'm blown away 465 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 6: and taking care of me too. I mean it's my 466 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: first given super mom. 467 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 8: Yeah. 468 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 6: No, I'm just blown away at just how she is. 469 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 6: And he lights up, he lights up with me. Nah, 470 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 6: that boy lights up bright, bright, bright with her, and 471 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 6: I just love it. 472 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. 473 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: If you enjoy today's conversation, subscribe, share, and follow us 474 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: on at my Legacy Movement on social media and YouTube. 475 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: New episodes drop every Tuesday, with bonus content every Thursday. 476 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: At its core. This podcast honors doctor King's vision of 477 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: the beloved community and the power of connection. A Legacy 478 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: Plus Studio production distributed by iHeartMedia creator and executive producer 479 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: Suzanne Hayward co executive producer Lisa Lyle. 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