1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, The. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Stock Movers podcast, your roundup of companies making moves in 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg Data. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at some of the stocks on 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: the move today in Europe. We're joined for that Buy 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: our Markets Today Editor Sam Onsted, Sam, good morning. Just 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: the UK to talk about today is that the European 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: markets are all closed. Let's start with the results out 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: of Lloyd's. 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I think for the most part what people 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: were watching for, particularly with Lloyd's was the motor finance 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 3: probe in the UK. No great update on that. You know, 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: we're in the midst of that of new judgments being 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 3: made there, so they're going to have to wait to 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: see if they have to put any more money aside 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: for that. Two though interesting dynamics in there. Costs were 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: a little bit higher than expected. That was almost entirely 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: because of the frontloading of severance payments, so people being 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: laid off by Lloyd's, they frontloaded those to the first quarter, 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: so their cost will go down as the year goes on, 21 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: but it's hit profit in the first quarter of the year. 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: And then the other thing is that they have put 23 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: a side not one hundred million pounds, because they've slightly 24 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: tweaked their economic forecasts and that's to cover the potential 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: hit from tariffs for the UK economy over the course 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: of the next year. So you could say, only one 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 3: hundred million pounds at the moment, not an enormous impairment 28 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: to take, but you know, not a great sign for 29 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: the way that they think the economy is going to look. 30 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 4: It's an impairment that wouldn't have been there pre April 31 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 4: and pre so called Liberation Day. So the tariff impact 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: being factored in by UK Bank. Lloyd's more on tariffs 33 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: because one of the worst hit corporate victims is also 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: in focus for you today, Gen store Nord. What's the 35 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: story there, Sam. 36 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mentioned you know, the UK is open today. 37 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: Denmark is the only other major European market that is 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: open today. Gen store Nord hearing aids. They have taken 39 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: a pretty significant tariff hit. So some of this had 40 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: already been priced in because there was an expectation that 41 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: they would take a hit because of parts moving over 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: and the US obviously being a major market for all 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: healthcare companies. But it's really slammed them kind of across 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: the board. You know, their guidance has been effectively pulled. 45 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: We've seen that from a couple of other companies, but 46 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: this is another one to add to the list, and 47 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: their shares falling a little bit in Copenhagen today on that, 48 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: but maybe not as much as may have been anticipated, 49 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 3: because some of this has already been priced in by 50 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: the volatility over the course of April. 51 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: Rolls Royce meanwhile saying it can power through the tariff chaos. 52 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: Yes, so, genstore Lord particularly poor, but actually, for the 53 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: most part, a lot of big companies, there's a lot 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: of uncertainty in their outlooks. So a lot of them 55 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: are saying that we you know, we can't totally predict 56 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: what's going to happen over the course of the next year. 57 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 3: But most of them appear to be fairly sanguine about 58 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: their ability to actually manage these costs. Rolls Royce a 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: company with huge supply chain parts, you know, coming from 60 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: all over the world. They feel as though they've already 61 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 3: done enough to mitigate in the lead up to the 62 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: reciprocal tarif announcement in April, that they should be able 63 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: to manage the effects over the course of the year. 64 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: Remember Rolls Royce one of the top performing stocks in 65 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: London over the course of the last couple of years 66 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: and rising again today. 67 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: Sam, if we just take a beat this Thursday, so 68 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: many of the earnings have come through more to comic 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 4: coal stateside with the focus on tech. What for you 70 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: been some of the key takeaways in the context of 71 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: this global trade war? 72 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the really key thing you coming 73 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: into this, I think there was an expectation that you 74 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: might see what you saw at the beginning of the pandemic, 75 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: where guidance is just being pulled almost across the board 76 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: because there's so much uncertainty. Rather than the guidance being pulled, 77 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: I think what you're seeing is companies instead taking a 78 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: kind of a bit more of a wait and see approach, 79 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: lots of uncertainty to I think if you go through 80 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: earnings reports over the course of the last couple of 81 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: months into a search for uncertainty, you will find thousands 82 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: and thousands of mentions of it. That's been more the 83 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: dominant theme rather than actually kind of pulling guidance in 84 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: the way that we saw at the beginning of the pandemic, 85 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: but uncertainty, I would say, is raining. 86 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: The Stock Movers podcast from Bloomberg Radio. Check back with 87 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: us throughout the day for the latest roundup of companies 88 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: making news on Wall Street and for the latest market 89 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: moving headlines. Listen to Bloomberg Radio Live, catch us on YouTube, 90 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Dark, and on Apple car Play and Android Auto 91 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: with the Bloomberg Business app. 92 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: Mm hmm