1 00:00:04,404 --> 00:00:07,244 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:07,244 --> 00:00:10,044 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:24,284 --> 00:00:27,564 Speaker 2: I remember vividly being a little kid and watching Troy 4 00:00:27,644 --> 00:00:30,204 Speaker 2: Aikman in his rookie year go zero to eleven as 5 00:00:30,244 --> 00:00:32,964 Speaker 2: a starter and the Cowboys were one and fifteen, and 6 00:00:33,004 --> 00:00:35,524 Speaker 2: Aikman looked back on that years later and reflected He's like, 7 00:00:35,564 --> 00:00:37,924 Speaker 2: I just remember thinking, what does it take to win 8 00:00:37,964 --> 00:00:39,724 Speaker 2: a game in this league? Am I ever going to 9 00:00:39,764 --> 00:00:42,684 Speaker 2: win a game? And I understand that, and that's relatable. 10 00:00:42,684 --> 00:00:46,524 Speaker 2: I'm surfing cam Ward. It's tricky because I like the 11 00:00:46,564 --> 00:00:48,644 Speaker 2: fact that he's just not bsing. He's like, I'm not 12 00:00:48,684 --> 00:00:50,924 Speaker 2: going to come up here and say we need to 13 00:00:50,964 --> 00:00:53,124 Speaker 2: execute better, or it's we need to. 14 00:00:53,084 --> 00:00:55,244 Speaker 3: Make better play. He's just like, I am going to 15 00:00:55,364 --> 00:00:55,644 Speaker 3: just be. 16 00:00:55,604 --> 00:00:58,604 Speaker 2: Completely honest in myself. And I think there's a respect 17 00:00:58,604 --> 00:01:00,484 Speaker 2: in that. I think there's a respect from the media 18 00:01:00,804 --> 00:01:03,924 Speaker 2: in the locker room. It's a little tricky because especially 19 00:01:04,004 --> 00:01:06,924 Speaker 2: the word that he chose, it's such a memorable quote 20 00:01:07,244 --> 00:01:09,724 Speaker 2: and it's something that will get you really skewered, and 21 00:01:09,764 --> 00:01:11,884 Speaker 2: that can follow you, and that can follow you and 22 00:01:11,924 --> 00:01:14,924 Speaker 2: your team and your coach because the internet and the 23 00:01:14,964 --> 00:01:17,524 Speaker 2: comedians there and the people who draw the conversation. They 24 00:01:17,564 --> 00:01:20,284 Speaker 2: love slogans and they love catchphrases and the three words, 25 00:01:20,244 --> 00:01:23,004 Speaker 2: So I guess it's two words are very catchy, and 26 00:01:23,084 --> 00:01:25,404 Speaker 2: if you go own five and six, those words will 27 00:01:25,444 --> 00:01:27,684 Speaker 2: just follow you around until you do something about it. 28 00:01:27,724 --> 00:01:30,764 Speaker 2: But I've always respected from Cam wored there's an irony 29 00:01:30,764 --> 00:01:32,844 Speaker 2: and that really no one ever talked about him from 30 00:01:32,884 --> 00:01:35,524 Speaker 2: the second that he was drafted, before he was drafted, 31 00:01:35,524 --> 00:01:37,604 Speaker 2: after he was drafted, and he's one of the most 32 00:01:37,604 --> 00:01:39,884 Speaker 2: candid rookie quarterbacks we've ever seen. And this came up 33 00:01:39,924 --> 00:01:41,964 Speaker 2: in training camp, this came up after the draft. He's 34 00:01:41,964 --> 00:01:43,924 Speaker 2: put himself in a position where he now has to 35 00:01:43,924 --> 00:01:46,244 Speaker 2: play really well and the team has to play really 36 00:01:46,324 --> 00:01:48,364 Speaker 2: well or you just are a punchline. We know what's 37 00:01:48,404 --> 00:01:50,724 Speaker 2: going on, guys. The head coach is I will I 38 00:01:50,724 --> 00:01:53,564 Speaker 2: will just say besieged. He's having his own awkward press 39 00:01:53,564 --> 00:01:56,684 Speaker 2: conferences and the team looks really, really bad. 40 00:01:56,764 --> 00:01:57,964 Speaker 3: So I like it. 41 00:01:57,964 --> 00:02:00,164 Speaker 2: It's a bold strategy to come out there and say 42 00:02:00,164 --> 00:02:03,724 Speaker 2: that about yourself, but it puts the target on him 43 00:02:03,724 --> 00:02:06,044 Speaker 2: because if you continue to be what you say you are, 44 00:02:06,324 --> 00:02:09,724 Speaker 2: all you'll ever hear is just that the team is 45 00:02:09,804 --> 00:02:10,644 Speaker 2: heavily flawed. 46 00:02:10,844 --> 00:02:11,724 Speaker 3: Heavily flawed. 47 00:02:11,884 --> 00:02:14,284 Speaker 2: The defense was really bad against the Raiders. The offensive 48 00:02:14,324 --> 00:02:17,084 Speaker 2: line has problems, but that's who cares. 49 00:02:17,124 --> 00:02:17,444 Speaker 3: Really. 50 00:02:17,844 --> 00:02:20,204 Speaker 2: What I feel after one month of football is that 51 00:02:20,564 --> 00:02:22,444 Speaker 2: I think Caleb is going to be the Bears quarterback 52 00:02:22,484 --> 00:02:24,844 Speaker 2: for a long time. I think Bears the Ben Johnson 53 00:02:24,844 --> 00:02:26,404 Speaker 2: is going to be the Bears coach for a long time. 54 00:02:26,564 --> 00:02:29,284 Speaker 3: And that is just a win. Like Caleb has it. 55 00:02:29,724 --> 00:02:32,324 Speaker 2: He's not perfect, He's got a lot to learn, but 56 00:02:32,404 --> 00:02:34,484 Speaker 2: my god, he is so talented. We already knew that 57 00:02:34,524 --> 00:02:36,804 Speaker 2: he's starting to put it together. Now he's going to 58 00:02:36,804 --> 00:02:38,124 Speaker 2: be the quarterback for a long time. 59 00:02:38,164 --> 00:02:38,324 Speaker 3: Now. 60 00:02:38,324 --> 00:02:40,684 Speaker 2: As far as this season, guys, I don't know. And 61 00:02:40,684 --> 00:02:44,444 Speaker 2: Seth listen, it's easy to forget last year the Chicago Bears. 62 00:02:44,484 --> 00:02:47,924 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty four Chicago Bears under Matt Eberfluss, were 63 00:02:48,044 --> 00:02:51,244 Speaker 2: four and two to start the season and then proceeded 64 00:02:51,244 --> 00:02:53,884 Speaker 2: to lose ten in a row and fire their coats. 65 00:02:54,244 --> 00:02:56,204 Speaker 2: So they were even doing better than the Bears are 66 00:02:56,204 --> 00:02:59,004 Speaker 2: doing now record wise. But this thing just feels different. 67 00:02:59,084 --> 00:03:01,764 Speaker 2: And if you tell me after a month, Caleb looks 68 00:03:01,764 --> 00:03:04,124 Speaker 2: really good and Ben Johnson seems the part It's really 69 00:03:04,364 --> 00:03:06,324 Speaker 2: all I need to know. Are they seven and ten? 70 00:03:06,404 --> 00:03:09,804 Speaker 2: Are they nine and eight? I don't terribly care. I 71 00:03:09,884 --> 00:03:11,644 Speaker 2: care that they have a quarterback and a coach, and 72 00:03:11,684 --> 00:03:14,964 Speaker 2: I think they do. The Bill Murray in the nineties 73 00:03:15,444 --> 00:03:19,004 Speaker 2: was churning out bangers. She's doing stuff like a Groundhog Day. 74 00:03:19,044 --> 00:03:20,804 Speaker 2: He's doing What About Bob and a few other things. 75 00:03:20,804 --> 00:03:22,564 Speaker 2: And then he takes like a three year break and 76 00:03:22,604 --> 00:03:25,204 Speaker 2: he goes away for a while, and then he drops 77 00:03:25,244 --> 00:03:28,924 Speaker 2: this movie with the Fairly Brothers called Kingpin, in which 78 00:03:28,964 --> 00:03:34,004 Speaker 2: he plays Big Urn aka Ernie McCracken, a bowler. In 79 00:03:34,564 --> 00:03:36,404 Speaker 2: the scene in which he's sitting there in the diner 80 00:03:36,764 --> 00:03:39,004 Speaker 2: and he says tanker Ray and tab and the waitress 81 00:03:39,044 --> 00:03:41,164 Speaker 2: brings it over and he says, keep it coming, sweets, 82 00:03:41,164 --> 00:03:42,564 Speaker 2: I got a long drive ahead of me. You want 83 00:03:42,604 --> 00:03:44,764 Speaker 2: to do me a favor, wash off that perfume before 84 00:03:44,804 --> 00:03:45,724 Speaker 2: we come back to our table. 85 00:03:45,764 --> 00:03:46,364 Speaker 3: It is an. 86 00:03:46,364 --> 00:03:49,604 Speaker 2: Unbelievable display in which Woody Harrelson just leaves the scene 87 00:03:49,604 --> 00:03:51,844 Speaker 2: because it's so good. My take on his performance is 88 00:03:51,884 --> 00:03:55,644 Speaker 2: Big Ernie McCracken. It is Bill Murray's funniest performance of 89 00:03:55,764 --> 00:03:58,764 Speaker 2: his career. And I know that's a hot take in Ghostbusters, 90 00:03:58,804 --> 00:04:01,604 Speaker 2: Pete Fankman is great, he's kind of odd. In Caddy Shack. 91 00:04:01,684 --> 00:04:04,564 Speaker 2: Carl Speckler's just so over the top and weird. In 92 00:04:04,644 --> 00:04:07,764 Speaker 2: Groundhog Day, Phil Connors, it's mostly driven by the device 93 00:04:07,844 --> 00:04:10,804 Speaker 2: of the plots and pure funny. I'm gonna play a 94 00:04:10,924 --> 00:04:13,764 Speaker 2: bowler with a comb over. And Big Ern is finally 95 00:04:13,764 --> 00:04:16,724 Speaker 2: above the law. I think the funniest performance of his career. 96 00:04:17,444 --> 00:04:20,084 Speaker 2: And the informercial with the kids and the lady. We 97 00:04:20,124 --> 00:04:21,924 Speaker 2: can go on and on and on. Big Urn is 98 00:04:21,964 --> 00:04:22,564 Speaker 2: above the law. 99 00:04:22,604 --> 00:04:23,164 Speaker 3: And my pick. 100 00:04:24,484 --> 00:04:27,524 Speaker 2: You guys are talking from the football perspective, I totally respect. 101 00:04:27,684 --> 00:04:29,244 Speaker 2: I'm here in New York and I just want to 102 00:04:29,284 --> 00:04:32,444 Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the vibes and the feeling here. 103 00:04:32,604 --> 00:04:34,884 Speaker 2: It's so important what happened in that last weekend the 104 00:04:34,884 --> 00:04:37,444 Speaker 2: game against the Chargers, because over so many years the 105 00:04:37,484 --> 00:04:40,684 Speaker 2: Giants have had a cool problem. Not only are they 106 00:04:40,724 --> 00:04:44,404 Speaker 2: not good, they haven't been cool at all, like the product, 107 00:04:44,524 --> 00:04:46,564 Speaker 2: the image, everything has been bad. 108 00:04:46,604 --> 00:04:48,764 Speaker 3: They don't win, and they're not fun. 109 00:04:49,084 --> 00:04:52,404 Speaker 2: They play in this cold gray edifice in New Jersey 110 00:04:52,444 --> 00:04:54,924 Speaker 2: with this cold, great product. You know how depressing you 111 00:04:54,964 --> 00:04:57,004 Speaker 2: have to be for the local football fans. To look 112 00:04:57,044 --> 00:04:58,644 Speaker 2: for something more optimistic, they have to go to a 113 00:04:58,764 --> 00:04:59,364 Speaker 2: Jets game. 114 00:04:59,564 --> 00:05:01,124 Speaker 3: And that is absolutely true. 115 00:05:01,364 --> 00:05:03,604 Speaker 2: But if you look at these Giants quarterbacks over the years, 116 00:05:03,604 --> 00:05:07,804 Speaker 2: Into Jackson, Dark, Phil Simms, cool, played the coldest Super 117 00:05:07,844 --> 00:05:10,084 Speaker 2: Bowl of all time, Eli Manning. You think he's the 118 00:05:10,124 --> 00:05:12,164 Speaker 2: dorky little brother. Put him in a big game, and 119 00:05:12,164 --> 00:05:14,404 Speaker 2: he's the coolest guy on the planet. They have been 120 00:05:14,444 --> 00:05:18,564 Speaker 2: missing that sort of swagger and flamboyance and cool factor 121 00:05:18,724 --> 00:05:21,004 Speaker 2: for a long time. And I've told the story before. 122 00:05:21,604 --> 00:05:23,644 Speaker 2: I live in the New York suburbs. I want you 123 00:05:23,684 --> 00:05:25,724 Speaker 2: to pay attention to that. I am in the heart 124 00:05:26,164 --> 00:05:30,404 Speaker 2: of Giants country, Giants fans everywhere I go to my 125 00:05:30,604 --> 00:05:34,084 Speaker 2: sixth grader school, the sixth graders come out of the school, 126 00:05:34,404 --> 00:05:37,364 Speaker 2: nobody's wearing a Giants jersey. These are huge NFL fans, 127 00:05:37,404 --> 00:05:40,724 Speaker 2: these kids I see josh Allen Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. 128 00:05:40,724 --> 00:05:44,484 Speaker 2: Even worse, I see Jaden Daniels Arrival of the Giants. 129 00:05:44,804 --> 00:05:48,364 Speaker 3: My own son, my flesh and blood, goes to school in. 130 00:05:48,364 --> 00:05:52,204 Speaker 2: Giants' territory wearing a Jalen Hurts jersey and no one. 131 00:05:52,084 --> 00:05:52,844 Speaker 3: Bats an eye. 132 00:05:52,964 --> 00:05:54,964 Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty seven, if he did that my son's 133 00:05:54,964 --> 00:05:57,164 Speaker 2: gonna get jumped, it'd be over. I'd have to go 134 00:05:57,204 --> 00:05:59,084 Speaker 2: and help him and get him out of the principal's office. 135 00:05:59,164 --> 00:06:01,684 Speaker 2: You don't wear an Eagles jersey here. They don't care 136 00:06:01,804 --> 00:06:04,764 Speaker 2: now because honestly, the only Giants jersey that you see 137 00:06:04,804 --> 00:06:07,404 Speaker 2: at my kids' school are Saquon jerseys. And that's a 138 00:06:07,404 --> 00:06:10,284 Speaker 2: whole different kind of embarrassment. The fact that they could 139 00:06:10,324 --> 00:06:12,004 Speaker 2: get the Jackson Dart jersey. 140 00:06:12,204 --> 00:06:13,244 Speaker 3: And that's a cool guy. 141 00:06:13,284 --> 00:06:16,324 Speaker 2: He plays well, he's got a swagger, he's fun. The 142 00:06:16,404 --> 00:06:19,324 Speaker 2: Giants have been missing all of that. And I mean, listen, 143 00:06:19,564 --> 00:06:21,244 Speaker 2: you may roll your eyes at this, but I don't 144 00:06:21,244 --> 00:06:22,204 Speaker 2: know if you're paying attention. 145 00:06:22,604 --> 00:06:23,524 Speaker 3: There's a whole. 146 00:06:23,364 --> 00:06:26,244 Speaker 2: Young generation of fans who are falling in love with 147 00:06:26,284 --> 00:06:28,724 Speaker 2: the NFL and they need heroes. And I'm talking about 148 00:06:28,804 --> 00:06:32,404 Speaker 2: fans that are too young for Josh Allen, for Joe Burrow, 149 00:06:32,404 --> 00:06:33,084 Speaker 2: for Lamarchette. 150 00:06:33,084 --> 00:06:34,084 Speaker 3: Who's gotten next. 151 00:06:34,524 --> 00:06:36,244 Speaker 2: These fans are looking at this guy and be like, 152 00:06:36,364 --> 00:06:39,644 Speaker 2: that kid's incredible. I want to go on play Roadblocks 153 00:06:39,684 --> 00:06:42,524 Speaker 2: and watch the NFL and talk about Jackson Dart. They 154 00:06:42,564 --> 00:06:44,724 Speaker 2: have something cool and young, and if he continues to 155 00:06:44,724 --> 00:06:47,844 Speaker 2: play well, like you guys are saying, there's nothing like 156 00:06:47,924 --> 00:06:49,884 Speaker 2: being a star in New York, and there's nothing like 157 00:06:49,924 --> 00:06:52,844 Speaker 2: being a star quarterback. He has the potential, has to 158 00:06:52,924 --> 00:06:55,084 Speaker 2: keep balling, and he will have this city in love 159 00:06:55,164 --> 00:06:58,524 Speaker 2: with him. They probably have the best roster in the NFL. 160 00:06:58,524 --> 00:07:01,604 Speaker 2: It's either them are Philadelphia like the rosters so crazy 161 00:07:01,684 --> 00:07:05,244 Speaker 2: and a veteran head coach. My feeling is stubborn, stuck. 162 00:07:05,284 --> 00:07:05,844 Speaker 3: I don't want to. 163 00:07:05,844 --> 00:07:08,884 Speaker 2: Let the Ravens go. I like the character that they represent. 164 00:07:09,004 --> 00:07:11,084 Speaker 2: I like who they are. I like that they are 165 00:07:11,124 --> 00:07:13,844 Speaker 2: scary and intimidating, and they also have this interesting story 166 00:07:13,884 --> 00:07:16,004 Speaker 2: where they can never quite finish. With Lamar, I want 167 00:07:16,004 --> 00:07:18,164 Speaker 2: to see them either finish or fail again. 168 00:07:18,204 --> 00:07:20,444 Speaker 3: That's a big part of the NFL season. So I 169 00:07:20,524 --> 00:07:21,084 Speaker 3: will say this. 170 00:07:21,244 --> 00:07:23,644 Speaker 2: Let's say Lamar comes back in a few weeks. Let's 171 00:07:23,644 --> 00:07:25,924 Speaker 2: say that the Ravens are two and five at the time. 172 00:07:26,284 --> 00:07:28,644 Speaker 2: That could be a really cool chapter for Lamar to 173 00:07:28,684 --> 00:07:30,484 Speaker 2: come back and say I took this team at two 174 00:07:30,484 --> 00:07:31,364 Speaker 2: and five and. 175 00:07:31,324 --> 00:07:33,604 Speaker 3: We still were in the playoffs. We still in genuar. 176 00:07:33,644 --> 00:07:36,404 Speaker 2: We've seen the Ravens be the ultimate front runner, the 177 00:07:36,484 --> 00:07:38,564 Speaker 2: ultimate assumption that they're going to be there. I would 178 00:07:38,604 --> 00:07:41,404 Speaker 2: love to come tearing down the stretch team in December. 179 00:07:41,644 --> 00:07:43,764 Speaker 2: Who you got right and got healthy and you don't 180 00:07:43,804 --> 00:07:46,204 Speaker 2: want to play. I don't want to see the playoffs 181 00:07:46,204 --> 00:07:48,924 Speaker 2: without the Lamar Jackson Ravens. They're just too important of 182 00:07:48,924 --> 00:07:51,924 Speaker 2: a character and I hope they get it together. I have, 183 00:07:52,004 --> 00:07:53,804 Speaker 2: for some reason with Seth here, I just have pro 184 00:07:53,844 --> 00:07:55,884 Speaker 2: wrestling on the mind, and Seth, I'm interesting what you 185 00:07:55,884 --> 00:07:58,364 Speaker 2: think of this. I have a pro wrestling comp for 186 00:07:58,524 --> 00:07:59,444 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. 187 00:08:00,164 --> 00:08:02,844 Speaker 3: It's this guy right here. It's Randy Orton. 188 00:08:02,924 --> 00:08:07,324 Speaker 2: Dude, this is the guy longevity, consistency. 189 00:08:07,684 --> 00:08:11,084 Speaker 3: He's not always the face of things, but he's. 190 00:08:10,924 --> 00:08:15,484 Speaker 2: Always super respected, and he's powerful and dominant. And there's 191 00:08:15,524 --> 00:08:18,644 Speaker 2: been resurgencies laid in their careers, and their careers just 192 00:08:18,684 --> 00:08:22,564 Speaker 2: seem to keep getting better and better, huge physical talents. 193 00:08:23,164 --> 00:08:25,564 Speaker 2: Randy Orton is won the belt, Stafford has won the 194 00:08:25,604 --> 00:08:28,404 Speaker 2: Lombardi Like, this is my guy, Seth, tell me I'm wrong. 195 00:08:28,444 --> 00:08:31,684 Speaker 3: I love both these dudes. We all have families. We've 196 00:08:31,684 --> 00:08:32,164 Speaker 3: been on trip. 197 00:08:32,244 --> 00:08:34,444 Speaker 2: Sometimes when you kind of are just ready for the 198 00:08:34,484 --> 00:08:36,244 Speaker 2: trip to be over, you just want to go home. 199 00:08:36,284 --> 00:08:38,284 Speaker 2: You just want to sleep in your own bed. Jamie 200 00:08:38,324 --> 00:08:39,924 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go right to you. I mean, how about 201 00:08:39,964 --> 00:08:43,964 Speaker 2: these guys. They go to Ireland, Great, they lose to 202 00:08:44,044 --> 00:08:44,684 Speaker 2: the Steelers. 203 00:08:44,924 --> 00:08:47,324 Speaker 3: Oh they get to come home. No, they stay. 204 00:08:47,764 --> 00:08:51,604 Speaker 2: They stay in Europe to play another game in Europe. 205 00:08:51,964 --> 00:08:54,084 Speaker 2: If you lose this one and you lose the Cleveland 206 00:08:54,084 --> 00:08:54,724 Speaker 2: you're like, oh. 207 00:08:54,564 --> 00:08:56,564 Speaker 3: My god, zero for two in Europe. 208 00:08:56,644 --> 00:08:59,564 Speaker 2: I really respect the Vikings organization, like we're up for it. 209 00:08:59,684 --> 00:09:02,124 Speaker 2: We have Vikings phones over there, but like sometimes you 210 00:09:02,204 --> 00:09:02,564 Speaker 2: just want. 211 00:09:02,524 --> 00:09:03,204 Speaker 3: The trip to end. 212 00:09:03,204 --> 00:09:05,924 Speaker 2: They've been sitting there just waiting to play this game. 213 00:09:06,004 --> 00:09:07,364 Speaker 2: I hope for their sake that they win it. 214 00:09:07,484 --> 00:09:19,164 Speaker 1: Jamie ten Takes is a production of the NFL in 215 00:09:19,244 --> 00:09:23,444 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 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