WEBVTT - Mickey Guyton

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Show is a production of iHeart Radio all Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of Darius Rutgers episode, I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that we here at QLs via Questlove Supreme or The

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Show has had a bonafide, bonafide country music

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<v Speaker 1>artists in our presence. I've had the pleasure of playing

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<v Speaker 1>drums with our guest today at of all places, the

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<v Speaker 1>Essence Festival. I knew then that I wanted to have

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<v Speaker 1>her as a guest on the show. Our guest today

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<v Speaker 1>has definitely created a lane for herself where I guess

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<v Speaker 1>one seemingly really didn't exist, and one fast needs me

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<v Speaker 1>about her story is not just you know, all the

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<v Speaker 1>accolades that she's had, the Grammy nominations, or the TV appearances,

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<v Speaker 1>the high profile appearances magazine covers, YadA, YadA, YadA, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's the journey that sometimes the path to finding

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<v Speaker 1>your voice means that you got to get it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out of your comfort zone and step into a space

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't exactly built with you in mind, and deciding

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to own that space and be there anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, there's a lot of commonality. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I felt commonality just in my experiences, so I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely wanted to have this conversation. And her music, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with songs like black Like Me Remember her Name, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>sparked conversations that country music is basically has been on

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<v Speaker 1>my sideline view a sort of avoiding. She miraculously hosted

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<v Speaker 1>the the CMAS. Oh ACMs, I'm sorry, it's all.

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<v Speaker 2>They all sound the same. There's ACMs and the CMAS,

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<v Speaker 2>the Academy of Country Music Awards, and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Not know the difference between. Yeah, okay, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I was there to watch her seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>national anthem at the super Bowl. She's built a global audience.

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<v Speaker 1>We're definitely talking about China, something that was not on

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<v Speaker 1>my Bengo card. We're just going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>journey of our guest today, the one and only Mickey Guyden.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for coming on the Quest Loft Show. How

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<v Speaker 3>are you there?

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<v Speaker 2>I am so good. You know I am a huge

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<v Speaker 2>Quest Love fan, so it is an honor to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to sit here and speak with you. Really, you

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<v Speaker 2>are a legend in my household.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, where are you speaking to us from?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you at home or on the road?

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<v Speaker 2>Where you actually in Los Angeles, California. I'm taking a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of break since I've been and I came

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<v Speaker 2>back from China, so I'm here in Los Angeles, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? Okay, Well, I'll just ask, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't be surprised, being as though for the last

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years, I can definitely say that the roots have

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<v Speaker 1>been like at least in twelve very specific places like

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<v Speaker 1>the Lincoln cent or whatever, like where we're the first

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<v Speaker 1>yeah pop act to be there. You know, you think,

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<v Speaker 1>like so late in the game, like how are the

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<v Speaker 1>roots playing places that some of these big platinum artists

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<v Speaker 1>haven't played? But I'm in surprise as a bound. What

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<v Speaker 1>is in China that is common with what I would

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<v Speaker 1>know as country culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Or just absolutely nothing? There is nothing in common. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest country song in China is Country Roads take

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<v Speaker 2>Me Home by John Dimver. That song, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>is massive out there. A lot of people learned English

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<v Speaker 2>listen to that song, so that song is very endearing

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<v Speaker 2>to the people out there. But even how I even

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<v Speaker 2>got out there, I got out there, it's just so

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<v Speaker 2>random and I would never ever ever do something like this,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was this show called The Singer, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I went on it. And it's like basically like Master Chef,

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<v Speaker 2>but for musicians. So it's like professional musicians all over

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<v Speaker 2>the world, including China.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, you're the contestant. You're not the job I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a contestant. Chante Moore did it the year

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<v Speaker 2>before me.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse J.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, jesse J did it in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So even established people can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's the craziest thing. It gives you all whole

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<v Speaker 2>different audience that you would never be you know, open to,

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<v Speaker 2>especially on my side of country music. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of my uh reason for doing it. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why can't I bring country music out to China?

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<v Speaker 1>So who presented this opportunity to you?

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<v Speaker 2>They found me, they asked yes, And at first I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, absolutely not. Is this a scam? Is what

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, there's no waya what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And when I saw that Chantey Moore did it, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know what, why not? Why not let

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<v Speaker 2>me try to do this and let's see what this

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<v Speaker 2>is all about? And it was the craziest experience of

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<v Speaker 2>my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was the results? Did you see an instant change?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and it's a change. And the audience that

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<v Speaker 2>I was performing for, like it gave me a whole

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<v Speaker 2>different audience to sing for. Like you can think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Every week I was singing in front of like about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty million people. It was like the

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl every week. It was crazy. It was there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many people in China and there's so many avenues

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<v Speaker 2>of being heard, and I was just trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>another additional space to be in front of and that

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<v Speaker 2>was my motivation. It's crazy, and it's I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the way the world is going, and especially

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of artists in Asia, like you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the whole k pop movement that is massive, Like there's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I don't think we paid attention to

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<v Speaker 2>as much as we should have to that whole area.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think every single artist should do that if

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<v Speaker 2>you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Not, you know, on my side of the fence, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with hip hop, I mean, you know that's all of

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<v Speaker 1>Asia is like our third biggest market. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just never you know, I kind of felt like country

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<v Speaker 1>music was limited to in my mind, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you're not the big signiction line. But it's worldwide.

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew this, never not It.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not worldwide. You're very much so spot on. It

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<v Speaker 2>is not worldwide, like this is uncharted territory.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're pioneering.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good, like yes, so.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've had you to be likeas.

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<v Speaker 1>No other country artists have ever considered doing the show

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<v Speaker 1>or I think the one that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Could really see being successful out there is like a

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<v Speaker 2>Casey Musgraves. I'm not sure. I don't have the data

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to tell you. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>just saw it as a huge opportunity for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>just was like, wow, that's a and so I did

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<v Speaker 2>a tour out there, just like a test tour to

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<v Speaker 2>see what that was like in February, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely incredible. Like there's a whole world out there that

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<v Speaker 2>you can be a part of. And I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pioneering that too.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, there you go. Could you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what your first musical memory is, man, the very first

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<v Speaker 1>thing you remember about music and either to three years old.

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<v Speaker 2>It was definitely church for me. I remember just being

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<v Speaker 2>in church and singing in the angel choir, then singing

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<v Speaker 2>in the Celestial choir. That that was my very first

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<v Speaker 2>memory of music.

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<v Speaker 3>How old were you when you first started singing in

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<v Speaker 3>the church.

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<v Speaker 2>I was probably about five or six, so I think

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<v Speaker 2>around like six or seven is when I started having

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<v Speaker 2>memories of church.

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<v Speaker 3>And what city did you grow up in?

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in So I grew up around all

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<v Speaker 2>around Texas, but Arlington, Texas, and Waco, Texas, Moody, Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>really small towns. That's where I grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your general memories of childhood. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>go back in time to your earliest days, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>are the first things visually that you see, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it's the smallest thing, not like going to a fair,

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<v Speaker 1>just your curtains. Maybe I don't know visually, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely my room. My bedroom was a big memory

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I'm an introvert, so I spent a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time in there, like that was something I really

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<v Speaker 2>loved my grandma's Those are huge memories. Those are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times my first like thoughts, like the gravel

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<v Speaker 2>roads and Crawford, Texas, or the gravel roads driving up

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<v Speaker 2>to Moody Texas. That long stretched drive that we would

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<v Speaker 2>drive to go see my grandma, the roads going to

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<v Speaker 2>see Reesal, Texes. Those are a lot of my memories.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the domestic situation in your house? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>the only child? Did you have siblings? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have two siblings. I have three siblings. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got two sisters and a brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you fall in?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the middle. I'm the upper middle. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>got two younger sisters and my brother is the oldest.

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<v Speaker 2>But really I'm the oldest. You know, there's always we're

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<v Speaker 2>mature daughter, the eldest daughter is the things. Yeah, for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>it's me and my youngest sister. She's like an old

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<v Speaker 2>woman too.

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<v Speaker 3>So do they have musical talent as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is this just you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my whole family sings, besides my mom. She would

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<v Speaker 2>hate for me to say that, but my mom can't

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<v Speaker 2>sing at all, like at all, But we all we're

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<v Speaker 2>all in the choir together, we all say. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was the one that pursued it the most in my family.

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<v Speaker 1>You say you traveled all around Texas. Is your father

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<v Speaker 1>in the military or like so my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what The equivalent of that is like

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<v Speaker 2>he was an engineer and he was VP of customer

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<v Speaker 2>relations of a company called my dad was he did

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<v Speaker 2>well for himself. It's encore, it's I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>where are you at, Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in New York right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever the electric company is that major? Most New Yorkers use.

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<v Speaker 2>That was what my dad was in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>What television show would you say best describes your childhood

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid or was there a character or a

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<v Speaker 1>television show that you imagine that.

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<v Speaker 2>So all say, I mean it sucks, like what has

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<v Speaker 2>happened to that family? That we were like the Cosby's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bulls are still alive?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great? The Huxtables, we were like the Huxtables. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like that, we were like that, or you know, definitely

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<v Speaker 2>family matters family. We were definitely like that. That was

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<v Speaker 2>what our family was like. Okay, blue collar, hardworking. My

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<v Speaker 2>mom didn't work. My mom was a homemaker. But that

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<v Speaker 2>was our family.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And mind you, So this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>episodes in which I'm torn between because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know everything about your career, but I also I'm hyper

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<v Speaker 1>aware and I think there's another commonality that we might have,

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<v Speaker 1>Like oftentimes, when you're in a position in your career,

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<v Speaker 1>you're instantly tagged as the person that has to be

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<v Speaker 1>the spokesperson for everything. For saying that, and so sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to know silly stuff that you never

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<v Speaker 1>get asked before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I appreciate you for wanting to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was kind of a thing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, you got to ask about what you

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<v Speaker 1>put anything click baity, like, yeah, what's your opinion on this?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your pinion?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're like I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel no I am o Marion, I feel no ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, there you go, There you go. So that said,

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<v Speaker 3>uh is there?

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<v Speaker 1>This is rather than random? Do you have a weird

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<v Speaker 1>food combo that you swear by?

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<v Speaker 2>A weird food combo that I swear by?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 2>So my mom she's dealing with like some like gluten allergies,

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<v Speaker 2>So she's trying all these different meals. She got a

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<v Speaker 2>sweet potato and put this like avocado like spread on

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<v Speaker 2>it that was really really really good. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what was on it. I have no idea, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was like sweet potato there's a baked sweet potato and

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<v Speaker 2>they put this like, I don't know, this really flavorful

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<v Speaker 2>like avocado spread thing on it, and I tore it up.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really really good, and I've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>it a lot, and it's actually a really good food

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<v Speaker 2>combo that I was really surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, I'm gonna look for that. However, if you

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<v Speaker 3>eat one meal forever, what would it be like, eat

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<v Speaker 3>one meal for forever?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your all time favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>So my family they used to make this meal back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day. It was called Growmy Beans and Corn,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's growny beans and corn. I've been eating this

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<v Speaker 2>since I was a little girl, so it's groundy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the black beans in that little black jar black

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<v Speaker 2>can with corn drained the corn and taco sea thing

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah and.

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<v Speaker 1>She so that's not chili and that's not chilians and corn.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they call it bullshit is what they call it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Southern thing, but it is really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something I used to eat all the time and

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<v Speaker 2>I still do.

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<v Speaker 3>What song reminds you of high school dances?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Man, I don't know why this song reminds you

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<v Speaker 2>of Probably because it was in love of basketball. But

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<v Speaker 2>what was that song that was in love of basketball?

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<v Speaker 1>God, Michells, you made a fool of me. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's depressing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, what is it called? I Want to Be Here?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I Want to be Yes by Roger Trautman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. I never danced to it in a high school

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<v Speaker 2>dance at all, but that song always made me think

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<v Speaker 2>about a high school dance.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, being as though I went to school with

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<v Speaker 1>boys to men. I just realized something, We've never had

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<v Speaker 1>a high school dance at Creative and Performing Art school. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>What Yeah, I've never been to I mean besides the prom,

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<v Speaker 1>besides junior prom and prom, like, we've never had like

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<v Speaker 1>sop hops or.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I did either. Actually all the times like homecoming.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Mansfeld High School. Yeah, we had homecoming.

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<v Speaker 3>We had uh, we didn't even have.

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<v Speaker 1>That, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, Yeah, it's weird, like we did everything that's.

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<v Speaker 2>A Texas thing like Texas like homecoming.

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<v Speaker 3>And football games and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the moms, those big moms that people.

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<v Speaker 1>Would wear, right, Okay, I don't know what that is,

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<v Speaker 1>never know what that was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to show you a picture of a mom.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't look at one, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Will google mom m Um. Yes, okay, and they're.

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<v Speaker 2>So ugly, but these are the things that people wear, yeah, mum,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is the stuff that people would wear.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And like the bigger it was, the more that guy

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<v Speaker 2>really cared about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like a a dress.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the status thing. If you had a big

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<v Speaker 2>mom like you were like the person I know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, And that's that's a traditional thing. Like you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to going to your first mom dancing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, give your dressed everything you had Homecoming king,

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<v Speaker 2>Homecoming queen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, people in the South know what I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>In high school, who is your celebrity crush?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I definitely had a crush on Probably Kobe Bryant. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved that group. Immature but Marcus Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, okay, nice? Or then they became immature Yeah yeah clever?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, did you have an embarrassing all or

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<v Speaker 1>aim name.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents were super super strict with us. I never

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<v Speaker 2>got to do any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't none of it? No, really, like no, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you first like get acclimated with like life on.

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<v Speaker 2>Line and I never did the chat rooms. I never

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<v Speaker 2>did that ever. I know, I know that's shocking, but

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<v Speaker 2>I my parents were like, absolutely not. I wasn't really sheltered.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't let me do anything or go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also a shelter kid, So there's a lot I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that I found out long after my high

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<v Speaker 1>school days.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you hate that? Like there was like so much

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<v Speaker 2>that I missed out on.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said the story before, which maybe like the last

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<v Speaker 1>time I saw Bismarcky before he passed, he was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in on the Tonight Show, and even though he was joking,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, Dad, quest like, when did you become a suit? Which, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're creative, the worst thing that someone

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<v Speaker 1>could tell you is that you're a suit, meaning you're

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<v Speaker 1>such a straight edge, you know, like I've always been

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<v Speaker 1>the odd guy out of a well. Next question to

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<v Speaker 1>you was have you ever cut school?

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<v Speaker 2>Or one time?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait? But was it was a senior cut day because

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't count?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I really and it wasn't cut school the

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<v Speaker 2>whole day. It was just one class.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you got away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, one time.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, why did you have to cut?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't have to, so I became I ran

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<v Speaker 2>track okay. And there was one guy who was like

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<v Speaker 2>the track stars. It was Enrique. He was like the

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<v Speaker 2>distance track guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay and I were.

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<v Speaker 2>Really great friends and we cut school that one day.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the one guy that had a car and

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<v Speaker 2>we all cut. I think it was like maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>the last class of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh just one early, an extra hour, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, like so that does that even really count?

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<v Speaker 1>No lame, no extra I was good because it's really

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<v Speaker 1>really lame. I was you're every kid in America. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to be home if the Oprah theme was coming

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<v Speaker 1>on and I is not home, Yeah that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, like the door hinges are coming off, Like

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<v Speaker 2>my door is coming off, the hinges, like I won't

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<v Speaker 2>have a door to my room.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, privacy your parents before they did that to

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<v Speaker 1>me for like a month. Yeah wait, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>trouble did you get into?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't even remember. I was probably on the phone past

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<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Got you. Yeah, yeah, wow, terrible dude.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how many times Tarik would call the house

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<v Speaker 1>like Tarika knows. Everyone knows not to call my house

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<v Speaker 1>after nine thirty pm. Look, my dad's like six foot

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<v Speaker 1>four and just a very scary man. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>joke like he was a Joe Jackson drill sergeant father.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my mom and dad were very much on that too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, people knew my parents didn't play.

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<v Speaker 1>But like Tik would routinely called me to like play

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<v Speaker 1>me some rap song he just heard that.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd be like ten oh one or whatever, and together

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be like hello. He'd be like hello, and I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta call Yeah, I gotta call you tomorrow too.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought my husband, I got the exact opposite, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I got such a you can't tell that about him now,

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<v Speaker 2>but how he was like he was wild and all loose.

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<v Speaker 3>And how when did you guys first meet?

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<v Speaker 2>We first met when I was nineteen. He's my best

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:33.760
<v Speaker 2>friends step brother, okay, and I don't like him back then,

0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even think about him like that. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was just so rough around the edges, and I, like

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<v Speaker 2>you was not, and so I just never.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought And then here was always the person that you

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<v Speaker 1>least expect. It's like, I like when that works out,

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<v Speaker 1>I do too. I like what that has never worked

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<v Speaker 1>out in my.

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<v Speaker 2>Favorite I mean you never nothing worked out of my favor,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest, but that this one did.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a fashion trend that you regret ever following

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<v Speaker 1>in your life in your teen years?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Like when everyone was wearing those super

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<v Speaker 2>super low jeans where their ass cracks were sticking out,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like that, you're from Texas?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you a walking house of dairion?

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't afford the house of airon? Okay, Like that

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<v Speaker 2>was not in my prim Oh that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a luxury Okay, I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, maybe like the like you know in

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<v Speaker 2>the South, like Doc Martin sandals were a huge thing

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<v Speaker 2>where they look like turtle shells on your foot. I

0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:53.959
<v Speaker 2>guess there's a lot of shoes that look like that now,

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.440
<v Speaker 2>But there are these specific Doc Martin sandals that I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't afford. So I went to Walmart and got the

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<v Speaker 2>Walmart version of them. And I'm really regretful that I

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:07.359
<v Speaker 2>followed that trend. Anything Abercrobie and Fitch, I'm regretful of

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 2>that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Really. Okay, yeah that's your fashion food boss, Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you describe the first concert experience that you had.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to even remember. Like I said, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get to do a lot in my life. I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>went and saw Marii Carrey, And one thing I always

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<v Speaker 2>did at any concert I went to. I went to

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<v Speaker 2>Maria Carrey. I think I went to like a justin Timberlake, Cristiangulo,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went to a key urban concert, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think the one thing I always did was turn around

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<v Speaker 2>and look at the lights when they would have that

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 2>moment where people would look at Yeah, I would always

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<v Speaker 2>turn around and look at the audience that That's something

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<v Speaker 2>I would always do like that every single time. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just such a beautiful experience to feel like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>that could be me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, yeah, you're playing the seeds of manifestation. So

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<v Speaker 1>usually when people grow up in the church, and especially down.

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<v Speaker 2>South, a gospel something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was going to say, what was the secular

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<v Speaker 1>music rule in your household? Were you allowed to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to regular music or.

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<v Speaker 2>Had that on lock like we had to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>gospel or some kid there was it's so embarrassing some

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<v Speaker 2>of the stuff in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Man let it out, let it out.

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<v Speaker 2>There was this like I was just very much so

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 2>that I was the start of that like right Christian

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:41.400
<v Speaker 2>nationalism thing that was going on, like that all weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my god, the parents were raised by their parents,

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<v Speaker 1>raised by their parents.

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<v Speaker 2>You have if you have not seen this documentary, it

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 2>is so triggering, like the religious trauma. My god. It's

0:23:55.000 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 2>called Jesus Camp. It is on. If you I'm it

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 2>will like make your eyes start twitching because of like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I was in that like the vacation Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>School, you know, yeah, summertime.

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>They would try to have us organized trips to Haiti

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<v Speaker 1>to become like future missionaries, praying.

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<v Speaker 2>To God like I am the sinner Lord. I'm six, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I am a sinner Lord, Like, forgive these thoughts in

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<v Speaker 2>my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you how I got out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>They took me out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Tarika and I finally got our first record

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 1>deal and I came to church, like right when like

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 1>our videos started to get played on like MTV, and

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<v Speaker 1>the elders of the church I could tell by the

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<v Speaker 1>the little judgment will look on their eyes. They were like,

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<v Speaker 1>so a mirror are you uplifting the Lord in the

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<v Speaker 1>this music of yours? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>If ever, there was a symbolic version of check please.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was that moment for me where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 1>I had that moment like literally, see this is the

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<v Speaker 1>thing you're You're not, You're you're pioneering. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why you resonate with a lot of us

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>is because like we see ourselves in your journey instantly,

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Like anything to do with someone that's isolated in a

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>very specific situation, I hone in for it because I

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 1>know that feeling. I know that feeling of you know,

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>of code switching. My code switching has to code switch.

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>And this is not even just in hostile environments, in

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>liberal environments, in black environments, in my family environment.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not selling out.

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm still you know, like there's so many things that

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I I have to do, so I understand those things.

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, when did you move to Los Angeles?

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.439
<v Speaker 2>So I moved right out of high school. Right out

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>of high school, I was nineteen, and.

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>You were that compelled to like go out and follow

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 1>your dreams. Yeah, but what was it about La that

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>called you the sun?

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>It seemed like it was the you know, I looked

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 2>at like all the different places where music was. I

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>looked at Atlanta, I looked at New York, and I

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 2>looked at Los Angeles. Nashville was not even a thought

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 2>for me, and so I saw that as the easiest

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 2>of the three as far as music because I didn't

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 2>want to be in Atlanta because that was still too

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 2>close to the South for me, and I was just

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of running from Texas from the religious.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Well wait a minute, Okay, you're from Texas. And I've

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>gone on record to say that if there was any

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>place in the world if I had to move and

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>leave the northeast Philly, New York that's my home base, Austin,

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Texas would actually be my second choice. Yeah, clearly. See.

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And I hate the term liberal because you're human, Yes,

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you're You're a non impressive human, even in those blue

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 1>friendly cities like Austin that never appealed to you, like

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>let me just move.

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>To Well, Austin at that time didn't even have the

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 2>music scene that it has now, Like the scene now

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>is like it's like it blew up, like Nashville. Like

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Austin and Nashville at the time, I guess the reason why,

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 2>like Nashville was even called music city, was not because

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 2>of country music those two cities at the time, Like

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 2>from my recollection, I wasn't hearing like music scene like that.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>But clearly you felt some sort of oppressive Yeah, anything

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>in Texas.

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, get me out, just get me out.

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Got you And you know there was acting and stuff

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>like that too, Like there was just an entertainment hub

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>that I felt like, Oh, I could do something there.

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>How was secular music received in your household? Now, most

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>people in your profession were not allowed to listen to

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>anything secular.

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh that was me same, Okay.

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>I had to listen to don't say DC talk No,

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>absolutely not, absolutely not, and we like that's a whole

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 2>other thing too, man. But you know I listened to

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot like BB and C. C Widens were heavily

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>on rotation, a like envy and that leads to Whitney.

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>So you can sneak your way to yeah, like I.

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Snuck it a little bit. My grandma was a huge

0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>like she loved Dolly Pardon, So when I would go

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>were her house, she would have Dolly Pardon, Kenny Rogers

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>VHS tapes hanging on the back of the door, along

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>with roots. So that's what I would watch what I

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 2>wentever her house, okay, and so then I discovered Brandy.

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Obviously you like the nineties. What a time, What a time.

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>There were so many just great great songs and great music.

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you, Okay, this will always wanted to know

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>are real singers allowed to do karaoke?

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 3>And are you a karaoke person?

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? But I don't really sing, yes, I say, are

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>you a supporter?

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>No, no no no.

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I cannot stand going to karaoke and you have that

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 2>one person that is like.

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>And you gotta kill shit. Yeah, when someone someone kills

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>shit at karaoke, that's.

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Not fun, like you root it for everybody.

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 3>I like karaoke.

0:29:58.600 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>When someone can't sing.

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>It's the best. My go to is Britney Spears, all right,

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>So Britney is your Britney Spears is my that's your

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>go to, She's my go to?

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 3>What's song?

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes? Oops? I did it again? Those are like and

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I want you a whole voice, like it's a that yeah,

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I don't. You can't. You don't. You don't

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 2>really sing karaoke like that just ruins it to me.

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I understand that most singers, professional singers tell you

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like you got to sing from your gut? Is her

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>thing more of a nasal throat thing, Like can you

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>tell when a singer singing from their gut versus I'm

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>always hearing that.

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>You can is gut and throw to me.

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, she has to come in the door like the

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 3>kool aid man.

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, she ends somewhere of the Rainbow Battle of bel

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Version as her first note instead of you know, you know.

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>The last note right right, Britney spears is. I don't

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>think it's nasal. I think it's in her throat. It's

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>so much air, So I think.

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>There's do you know why that's a rule, Like when

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>vocal trainers or coaches say, you know, you must sing

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>for me a diaphragm as opposed to your throat, Like

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>are you just never supposed to sing from your throat?

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Or people say it's amateur hour if you're singing from

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 1>your throat and not your diaphragm.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, I'm not a jessej type singer,

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I don't want to. I don't

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 2>know what's right. I think whatever sounds amazing and what

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 2>you feel, you know, I'm you know, I'm not a

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>technical singer, like that. So I think, whatever you feel.

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I think there's so many different great voices, whether you

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>can belt or not right, that I think are so great.

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Like there's some people that just have incredible tones and vocals.

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I was just thinking about ammelru before we even.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Like, ah everything, she's a great, man, She's.

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh great, Like I think she has such a combination

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>of everything, like the tone, the throat, the belt, all

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>of it, the notes.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 3>In high school, she was killing it man, like she's like,

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 3>what was that song that.

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 2>She released that like had everybody to choke holden like

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four.

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 3>So many, like I know one of her.

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a song that always gets played at weddings. Well,

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's see I'm a deep cut person. Yes,

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>So even though like there's for real like and uh

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>am I now blinking on all male songs.

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>We're all blanking. It's fine.

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh get up, make me hold make me whold was

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>always my.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Favorite, really really really good.

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she really gets to display her for real for real.

0:32:55.840 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, But like also I think with singers, like the

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>filler songs are where they really get to display what

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>they are because oftentimes if it's the single or whatever,

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>you have to sort of follow this, Yeah, this restrictive

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>rule of what is compatible for radio and public consumption,

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and then the other seven songs you could do whatever

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you want to do. Like that's I.

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Judge people based on their their singles.

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what song?

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Are you.

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Not embarrassed? But what song do you love?

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>That is like, oh god, people will kill me if

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>they know, like I love the song so much?

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Or oh man, you know Jesse McCartney had me in

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>h oh my god.

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, what was it about Jesse McCartney?

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 4>He had that one song, I don't want a pretty face.

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 4>I want anyone I my love to go ways. Oh

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 4>you because you're beautiful.

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 2>That song is so and it could be a country

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>song now, which is crazy.

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>So beautiful soul is your Yeah.

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I love beautiful soul. I even loved this really that

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>that freaking one wish by Ray J.

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch Versus? That was one for the history books?

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that's he used to be a crush of

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 2>mind when I was little, Like I would watch Brandy

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.399
<v Speaker 2>music videos just to see her brother.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Really, I'm going to tell you something.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>If one thing absolutely in sentences me that people really

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.839
<v Speaker 1>aren't up on, well, you know, I say this all

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the time about Brandy's first album. Brandy's first album was such.

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 2>One of the most incredible.

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>It was a game changer simply because like I think

0:34:55.920 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that most people think that you know that okay, kids

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.919
<v Speaker 1>or teenage music should be more bubblegum based or whatever.

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 1>And she was breaking like so many harmony rules that

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 1>like I only reserved for.

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 3>People like Prince Oh. I'm like, yo, what does this

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:17.800
<v Speaker 3>fourteen fifteen year old know about?

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't even know you could do like chromatic

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 1>background vocals and even the first song on the first album.

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 3>So when ray J got a deal, was that baby?

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Was that baby? That was the first song? Right?

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 1>No, well, no, no, no, I mean the first song

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>on the first album, which is moving on, Oh, moving on.

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Every go round she would add a different harmony on

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>top of it. So by the end of it, you know,

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:48.240
<v Speaker 1>we were sitting in the vanlight, yo. Like the roots

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>were very much the musical snobbery that everyone thought we

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>were in the first five years, like judging everyone I

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 1>maintained on tintoes that you know, when we first heard

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Mary jay Blige Is My Life, we were angry. We

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>were like, wait a minute, like singers aren't allowed to

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>sing over stuff we rap over, Like why she singing

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>over beats? Like where's the where's the bridge, where's the arrangement,

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>where's the coder, where's the modulation? Like I'm I was ready, Yeah,

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for like singers have to be in the

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 1>box of real music, whereas rappers get to take from

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>records and sample it and so yeah, like it took

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>about a month for us to really get over the

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>fact that Mary J. Blige is singing over stuff that

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>we would go for first, and I just thought that

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>was like against the rule, like you're not supposed to

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>do that. But ray J's first record, man, the one

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 1>that came out in yeah, yeah, like it was such

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 1>an incredible album that got.

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Ignored and.

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.439
<v Speaker 2>One song what did he have? Oh my god?

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Well we had a single called let It Go, which

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>was just it was killing. But because it would like

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>literally it was like if the roots got to produce

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody like that would have been the album. Keith Crouch,

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Andre Crouch's nephew, produced both ray J and Brandy's first album,

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and they just changed so many rules, like I consider

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.879
<v Speaker 1>those like really like neo soul, like pre neo soul

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>albums before there was a tag on it, like in

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>ninety five. Like, I consider those records and I just

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>hate that though, that he really put out an incredible

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 1>debut that the world won't.

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Get to know.

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I think, I always remembered him for his ad libs.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>He was so good at his ad libs. That was

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 2>something that I always remembered because you know, like a

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.359
<v Speaker 2>singer is like you have to be able to add

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 2>lib to songs. I even remember maybe there was an

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 2>interview like back in the day where Brandy was like,

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, I get a lot of that from like

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 2>ray J. He helps me with that, And I was like,

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 2>what really, but that could be I could be missmemborying.

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 2>So don't quote me on that.

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well I'll ask you because usually Okay, So I'm

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>always in a situation where if I'm backing someone and

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>we get to the last course of the song, you know,

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 1>God bless the soul. D'Angelo would be the type of

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>guy that he would never run out of riffs or anything.

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>And I always wonder is there an anxiety? Is there

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.839
<v Speaker 1>an anxiety in the last thirty seconds of a song

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>in which oh yeah, you're supposed to ad lib and

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, do some vocal acrobags. Now, it's one thing

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're in a nowhere town, if you're in Kalamazoo,

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Michigan or.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Whatever, Yeah, like who's watching you?

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 2>But if you're in the Grammys, the anxiety and it's

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>like singing in front of people like you or like Brandy, So,

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 2>how do you.

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Get out of your head before?

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm never out of my head ever? Like that is

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>a huge anxiety for me. I would like it is

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 2>a huge thing for me. Really, Yeah, I'm a very

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 2>insecure person.

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>So do you have a a pre show routine? Like

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>two hours before show? What is happening?

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Is it quiet backstage?

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Is it about fifteen minutes before the show? I need

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>it quiet, Like I just need to like thinking about

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 2>a point in my life where like you just have

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 2>to let things go, like we as artists, Like I

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 2>can't imagine being someone like Beyonce, who is literally the

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 2>biggest artist in the world, and her pushing through and

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, you always hear stuff, but

0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I hear like how how high the bar is set

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 2>for her? I can't imagine living like that and wanting

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 2>that perfection.

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 3>As a front person. Is it harder.

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Singing the song or the in between song banter with

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the audience?

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 2>What is I can talk now if you need me

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 2>to talk, if you need if there's an awkward moment,

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 2>anything like that where I need to fill something in

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.720
<v Speaker 2>while they're figuring, you know, a technical difficulty or something

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 2>like that. Like I'm cool with that. As far as

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 2>bantering is concerned. I'm pretty good at like talking to

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:38.919
<v Speaker 2>people in the audience to this day.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>And you would think, you know, I've written books and

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>odd stuff, but when it comes to giving speeches or

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>just like small talk with with an audience, even DJing,

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think once I've ever said I mean

0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I quiet now DJ, and I know, well, I'm just unicating.

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel as the magic sauce for how we get

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>to know you, you know. Yeah, And so sometimes.

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy because you're like talking with you on here,

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>like you're really fun to talk to.

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 1>You're talking to a six year old, like there's life

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 1>from when I was born in the seventies and then

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, the old me went away and then new

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>me showed up in twenty twenty when the pandemic happened and.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 2>It's sort of crazy. Like I think everybody there was

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>like a new oh the me in twenty twenty, everybody,

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, for.

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>The first two years, I had a shame of I

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>mean just in general, I think as humans, we are

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 1>programmed to feel bad for feeling good. Anything that makes

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>us feel good, there's guilt. There's guilt we feel yeah,

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, it probably took me two years just

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:57.439
<v Speaker 1>to get over that hump and get to there.

0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think all of this.

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Changed during the Yeah, that's so crazy that you're saying

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>that about the like feel bad for feeling good, because

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 2>right now I'm taking like I've had some personal issues

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that I've been dealing with in my family to the

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.839
<v Speaker 2>point where I've just had to like take a beat.

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I knew I needed to take a minute because I

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.240
<v Speaker 2>didn't have any thoughts in my head right like nothing,

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 2>like you know, usually if I'm working, if I'm doing whatever,

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm keeping myself up till you know, four am, and

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.240
<v Speaker 2>I still will wake up at four am like clockwork.

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why that is, but I would have

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 2>just like thoughts of like how I could be better. Oh,

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm shit that what I did that day or like

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 2>all these constant thoughts and now nothing like I have

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 2>nothing like, no ideas, no nothing. And I knew that

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 2>that's when I needed to take a minute. I have

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 2>been nesting, I have been decorating. I got a fish.

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, are you a cat person or

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:01.359
<v Speaker 1>a dog?

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I have two cats, two dogs, a fish named Titan.

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 2>He's a little beta fish that I really like. And

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I've been feeling really good, and I was like, should

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I be feeling like this? Should I be like I

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.240
<v Speaker 2>need to be doing this. I need to be figuring

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 2>these things out and where my next opportunity is at

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.399
<v Speaker 2>and what I can do to be better and what's

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>this next thing list in my head? And it's okay

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 2>to just take a minute.

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>You're actually doing the right thing, all right. So this

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>is a question I'm in dying to ask. So we

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 1>are about a year and a half, maybe two years

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>post what I would call a Cowboy Carter deluge or

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 1>watershed moment. There's at least a group chat, like in

0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>my mind, the best of my imagination is that there's

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of a secret X Men, super Friends of r

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>v S HVD or Pretty Spencer and Willie Jones and

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Camee Brown, Chaboozi and you and Yola and all the

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>throw Darius in there and the shout out to those

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>who I didn't commit to memory. But the post Cowboy

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Carter moment shining a light on you guys. Now I've

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>heard of you pre Cowboy Carter. You know, I just

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>thought it was Charlie Pride and Darius Rutgers. I didn't

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 1>think that black people were in the country, even though

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I know the banjil came from Africa and all those things.

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 3>So are there any artists.

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Bubbling under that you're aware of that we should be

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>looking out for and has that moment in which getting

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that exposure to a whole new world?

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 3>Like, was that a real thing? Was it as real

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 3>as I thought.

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 2>It was, as we all thought it was. But in

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the same breath, it's just real as we thought it was.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, there was the overwhelming veil that was lifted

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 2>that shows that country music stills are ready to accept,

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, the way that the country music community accepted

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Post Malone versus you know, Beyonce versus Shaboozi, Like those

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 2>are very eye opening things, you know, Little nas X two.

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 2>But it seems like you know, but it does seem like,

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a tale as old as time.

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Like black women, no matter how successful you are, no

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 2>matter how powerful you are, they will accept a black

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>man or a white man obviously from whatever, more than

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>they'll accept a black woman. Like that's just it just

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>is you know you have I mean, prime example is

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 2>like Jasmine Crockett trying to be a senator. She's well overqualified. Yes,

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I know this, but still people can't accept or fathom

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 2>black leadership from a woman in.

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Norther Do they know that black women were single handedly

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the reason why the very few wins that we got

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>in democracy was that I was part.

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Of the ninety two percent.

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I was on in the middle of tour, and I

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 2>flew where I was registered to vote just to make

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 2>sure that I could vote, and flew back and do

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>what I had to do. And that was, like, I mean,

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:45.319
<v Speaker 2>that's very indicative in this Beyonce, Cowboy Carter and post

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Malone argument. I mean, granted, Post Malone did really go

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 2>through the Nashville channels, and I don't know if that

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 2>would be different for Beyonce, but Beyonce doesn't have to

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Beyonce doesn't do literally whatever she wants to do.

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>You're going to be an amazing support system for people,

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you know that come after. And you know often I

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>say that being a pioneer, like there's two people in

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the industry in my opinion, the pioneer and then the

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>person that comes after the pioneer. Yeah, I guess just

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>gets to enjoy all this. And you're you're in the

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>back the carpentry, you're laying. That's the red carpet down

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and right you're you're laying you're laying the foundation.

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 2>There was a person laying the foundation before me. You know,

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:36.800
<v Speaker 2>there was Linda Martel. She laid the foundation before me.

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>You know I.

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 3>You still feel it.

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, very much. So again, we don't I don't want

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 2>to make this about that because this has.

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 3>Been We don't, but I just always want to get known.

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.799
<v Speaker 2>You have to be honest, I definitely. I think it's

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 2>very important to be honest with this whole conversation because

0:47:56.960 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 2>it has to be real. I mean, country music doesn't

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 2>barely accept women. I know, Like they'll say, oh we

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 2>have such and such and such and such as always

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 2>three and they just switch them out right. It's no

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:14.800
<v Speaker 2>different if anything's even worse, and like the way that

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 2>you see this is such a hard conversation, but from

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 2>my observations, the way that this administration sees women is

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 2>the way that country music sees women, of course, and

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 2>the women that support the system.

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 3>The house master's tools, and the.

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 2>They support their oppressors, right, they fight for the system

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 2>more than anybody, and I can't help them. They've got

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it if that's what they want to do, if they

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>want to continue to be oppressed, that is not on

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 2>me to be fighting for that.

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So in a world where there is a remote control, yeah,

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and you get to press pause and literally sneak into

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the master's system and change just three things so that

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 1>when you press pause again, that becomes part of the

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 1>regular fiber and memories are erased. What three things do

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you desire to change that I'm not aware of? And

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe I am aware of it.

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 2>There's an underlying gate keep, and it's like the things

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:28.240
<v Speaker 2>that happen between closed doors.

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 3>And so here's the weird thing, all right.

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>The foundation of all this is that my best friend

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>in high school and I started a band and we

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:42.360
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to be famous and play all the places

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and all those things. And then, as I told you,

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>even before the pandemic, around twenty fifteen, this other thing

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>started to happen where I realized like, oh, I have

0:49:55.080 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>other talents. Yeah, And then for me the sort of

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the arrival moment of me as a filmmaker, like my

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>whole imposter syndrome, like well, I'm really not a filmmaker,

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and then like you went an oscar, then it's like,

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, I might be a filmmaker. So suddenly I

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 1>started to get all the power I dreamed of having,

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 1>and the fame and all those things.

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I got it for filmmaking.

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>But secretly I go home at night and cry, like

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like a failure because I'm like, wait.

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 2>A minute, which is insane to me. I'm glad I'm not.

0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 1>The only one though, Oh dude, the grass is always

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>green on the other side. So for me, it was

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 1>always like damn, what kind of world do we live in? Where, like,

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can call Spielberg like that and get

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a meeting and get things to happen. But the world

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>knows me as this music savant. The world knows me

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:52.280
<v Speaker 1>as this two hundred thousand record collecting master, music disciple

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of the best musicians ever, Like, why can't I compile

0:50:57.680 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 1>fourteen songs on a particular album that will take me

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to the place where Oh man, I wish I was

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>doing that, damn Like I want that opportunity. And it

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 1>took me the last six years to learn that I

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:16.800
<v Speaker 1>was in my own way. But asking you this, I

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 1>also realized, and Jimmy jam taught me this is that

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>someone is going to have to infiltrate and sneak on

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the inside to change the system. Yeah, the wavy system

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 1>is now, and you know, and I almost see the

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:38.800
<v Speaker 1>country world as its own bubble it is. And I

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>watch you and I'm just like, man like the things

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:46.799
<v Speaker 1>that she has to keep internally just to see her

0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>career through so that she can get the power to

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:52.759
<v Speaker 1>even change the system. I know, you have to go

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>through this unspeakable, isolated journey with yourself that probably not

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.440
<v Speaker 1>even your husband get under and he's probably your best

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>friend in the world. Yeah, so is it worth it

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>to really step into the house of the system to

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>try to change it as yourself? Like do you what

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 1>do you have dreams of? As far as like the

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:15.720
<v Speaker 1>legacy part.

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Of this, you know, I get. I mean, it's kind

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.320
<v Speaker 2>of like what you said, like I build the foundation

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and then this person, which I mean I believe, like

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Beyonce did, Like you know, I worked so hard for something.

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Beyonce did come through and she like shattered the ceiling.

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 2>She broke the ceiling like I was over there tapping

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 2>on it and she just like a rocket ship she

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 2>came and blasted that. But it's like there's one thing

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't have the ability to do, and that's changed

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 2>the hearts of people, Like I can't. You can't change

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 2>the hearts of people. Like if that was something I

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 2>could go in there and like change, that would be it,

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and I don't have the ability to do that.

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you see a generally difference in like for hip hop,

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely some rules of hip hop that I knew.

0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Gen X is not. Like gen X was very big

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:12.640
<v Speaker 3>on this whole, like yo, dog, who's the gay rapper?

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Like that was like such a major thing.

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Whereas like now in twenty twenty, like that's like, Yo,

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 1>how could we be so neanderthal and ask backwards to

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:27.880
<v Speaker 1>make that our point of priority? But you know, I

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:31.080
<v Speaker 1>realized it's generational and now that I'm looking at gen

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Z and soon it will be Jen Alpha and Jen Beta,

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know, so on and so forth. Do you

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>see somewhat of a generational change for.

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 3>The better in younger people?

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Because also, if you grow up an impressive household, I

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>would imagine that.

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 2>At least something like country music is still like it

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 2>seems like I've stepped back in time. Like they say

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 2>country music is twenty years behind everyone else. I mean

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 2>in this case, maybe forty. Like they're still back with

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:06.719
<v Speaker 2>our parents in the Git Bloomer.

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Era, so it was nineteen seventy seven.

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of how it feels. It feels like we're there.

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 2>It feels like we're still in nineteen you know, like

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 2>even like yeah, like nineteen ninety two with you know,

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:21.839
<v Speaker 2>no secular music at all.

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully, when all said and done, like your career will at.

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Least push us to the millennial god, I hope. So

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:48.600
<v Speaker 1>hypothetical question, if the person you are right now could

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:57.840
<v Speaker 1>travel back twenty years when you are a teenager seeing

0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 1>your girlfriends on one of six in part promoting their

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 1>their music three l W Yeah, a group that you

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 1>were a founding member of. I don't want to know

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:13.200
<v Speaker 1>what it felt like to sit there and watch them

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:16.799
<v Speaker 1>on television kind of live your your jump start your dream.

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:18.440
<v Speaker 2>It was wild.

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:22.400
<v Speaker 1>But what would you now if you were given sixty

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>seconds to literally time travel I'm big on astro traveling

0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and time traveling and dreaming. If you could go back

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 1>sixty seconds the first time you're watching three L promiseif

0:55:35.920 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 1>on on you don't know how much I love that song.

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I love that song too. I'm not gonna lie I

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:45.879
<v Speaker 2>really did. I listened to that song.

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I did, but at the time, and look, I had

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with Motown Philly. Motown Philly is coming

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:56.719
<v Speaker 1>on every second. My dad was not making me feel

0:55:56.800 --> 0:56:03.560
<v Speaker 1>good about my life watching my schoolmates become these celebritials. Yeah, yeah,

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, like that that could have been

0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:07.800
<v Speaker 1>like he was very much a backstage debt like that.

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 3>What would you tell yourself in those sixty seconds.

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:14.920
<v Speaker 1>That you don't know at the time, when you're watching

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:19.360
<v Speaker 1>your girlfriend's air quote live the Dream, and that's.

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Sixty seconds, I would say, just hang on, your time

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 2>will come. That you were kept from feeling like when

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I watched it all go down, like watching what happened

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 2>to the toy? Like that could have been me.

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Would you have been on Power.

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 2>No, well I would not have been no, no, no,

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 2>like when they broke up. No, no, I know, I know, yeah, no,

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I would not have been on Power. Jory's got something

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 2>that I will never happen. That girl, right, that girl,

0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 2>she's got something that's just so amazing. But like I like,

0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I hold on your time will come.

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 3>But at the time when it was happening, were you like, oh, man, like,

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 3>what the hell like this?

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:05.840
<v Speaker 2>It's so weird? Like I did feel I mean fomo

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:09.240
<v Speaker 2>was not a word, yes, but I did have fomo

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:13.240
<v Speaker 2>about it when I watched it. But I also felt

0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 2>really cool that I experienced a little bit of it.

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I was only in their group for a summer, Like

0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I was not really in their group. I was like

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe a month, like I was not. It's like you

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 2>can say and now I can say that now yes

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 2>as a grown ass woman. Back back then, you know,

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 2>it's so weird, Like it's hard to remember how I felt.

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, hold on your time will come. That's what

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 2>That's what I would say, hold on your time will come.

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:45.520
<v Speaker 1>What is your songwriting process like or at least in

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the in the road to getting your record deal and whatnot?

0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 1>How much agency are you given to really express how

0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 1>you feel? Because you know, again the way you enter

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 1>my life.

0:57:57.560 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Everyone was like, yo, you're just something.

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, they played black White Me and all these things.

0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:07.440
<v Speaker 1>How autobiographical was better than you left me? Like? Is

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 1>songwriting the release that, yes, you get because you can't.

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.720
<v Speaker 3>Express to us or feel safe to express to us.

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I have a really hard time with confrontation because you know,

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I grew up in that because I said so Era,

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:30.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I definitely was punished by a belt and

0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I would never get to explain myself. I never got

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:35.000
<v Speaker 2>to express how I.

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Was feeling, only speaking when you're spoken to.

0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know. And I understand our parents, I mean,

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 2>you're doing you're doing what you were told. But now

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 2>if you're going to tell your kid to do something,

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 2>there needs to be a wide and you need to

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 2>explain it, and you need a lot of your kids

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 2>to explain themselves. So because of that type of discipline,

0:58:56.960 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't express myself in the moment well at all.

0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:05.720
<v Speaker 2>If there's a confrontation, I shut down and I'm silent.

0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Can I ask, do I get this a lot?

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Do you get it?

0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Accused of being passive aggressive?

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Passive aggressive? Like you don't care. And like my husband,

0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:19.400
<v Speaker 2>he's a lawyer, so he can express exactly how he

0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 2>feels at the very moment, and I am just like

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and I just shut down, and then people think that

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you don't care. And it's just that I need to

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 2>process the fifteen things that you said to me. I

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 2>need to go take a shower, and I need to

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:37.919
<v Speaker 2>talk to myself and speak out loud what I would say,

0:59:38.280 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 2>and then I could come back to you. Sometimes I

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 2>even have to put it in a note. I can't

0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:43.880
<v Speaker 2>even speak it out. I have to write it down

0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:46.920
<v Speaker 2>then read how I feel about it because I.

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Can't mickey like you.

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm I'm already fan, and I don't mean

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that just like I said, I was like, yeah, I'm

0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 1>a fan, but now I'm really shocked that the commonality

0:59:57.440 --> 1:00:00.800
<v Speaker 1>thing is that it's confirmed things. I'm in a new

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:04.360
<v Speaker 1>relationship right now, so even then, you know, I'm trying

1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to readjust this post therapy a mirror and learn how

1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:14.120
<v Speaker 1>to communicate. And because I will hold a grudge, oh

1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'll take it out.

1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I will.

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I will take it out on myself before I take

1:00:18.760 --> 1:00:19.560
<v Speaker 1>it out on other.

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 2>People, because and that causes so much suffering.

1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh real stelf like sickness. Yeah, that's where cancer comes from. Yes,

1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:30.880
<v Speaker 1>and so wow, that's okay.

1:00:31.200 --> 1:00:33.600
<v Speaker 2>So the one time I stood up for myself, like

1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:36.280
<v Speaker 2>in front of the president of my label at the time,

1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:40.120
<v Speaker 2>it took so much out of me. I was sick

1:00:40.400 --> 1:00:42.760
<v Speaker 2>for two for three days. I couldn't get out of

1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:46.440
<v Speaker 2>bed for three days because that release of energy was

1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:50.840
<v Speaker 2>so overwhelming. Like I was sick, I was nauseated, sick.

1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Was what was your label's response to first.

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Hearing they respected me. I didn't yell, I didn't do

1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:03.560
<v Speaker 2>anything but the lead of me telling this this box,

1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:09.200
<v Speaker 2>this white man that stop as a black woman, stop

1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:11.880
<v Speaker 2>saying my songs are R and B when you are

1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:16.240
<v Speaker 2>putting trap beats and all of your songs on country radio.

1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Like stop it right now. Like you can never say

1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:21.439
<v Speaker 2>that to me again, is what I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you.

1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Remember your first professional gig.

1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my first professional gig as far as touring, I

1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:33.920
<v Speaker 2>had opened up for Brad Paisley and that was scary.

1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:35.600
<v Speaker 3>How was that?

1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:42.000
<v Speaker 2>It was amazing? Like he was fantastic, like one of

1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:47.640
<v Speaker 2>the kindest human beings ever, like so lovely and but

1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I remember, well, there was one point we were out.

1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:56.400
<v Speaker 5>There and this guy was holding up this Confederate flag

1:01:57.320 --> 1:01:59.560
<v Speaker 5>right up to him, and every time he came around,

1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.440
<v Speaker 5>like you know, Brad would have to leave on the

1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:04.680
<v Speaker 5>other side that he wanted no part of it, Like

1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:07.160
<v Speaker 5>he wanted none of that, Like he hated it.

1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:12.000
<v Speaker 2>But I had to see it. You know, he felt horrible.

1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:15.560
<v Speaker 2>That's not how he thinks, that's not what he believes.

1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Like these Wow, let me tell you some of these people, man,

1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the hatred in their heart. I'm like, are you a

1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:25.160
<v Speaker 2>spawn of the devil? Like you're a spawn of Satan?

1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Have you?

1:02:27.560 --> 1:02:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:30.560
<v Speaker 1>So now in building your audience, is your audience truly

1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:31.200
<v Speaker 1>your audience?

1:02:31.280 --> 1:02:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Now?

1:02:31.560 --> 1:02:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Like is there Culy? Is my audience? Like I can

1:02:35.160 --> 1:02:39.320
<v Speaker 2>talk about Ady and everything. I've got a heavily gay audience. Okay,

1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:43.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, like anybody that feels marginalized and accepted is

1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:44.400
<v Speaker 2>my my audience?

1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Are you the character and what are you going to

1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:47.640
<v Speaker 3>tell her?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but the song was written by all women, and

1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:52.680
<v Speaker 2>we're all the character of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I know there's there's a composite, but it's

1:02:57.560 --> 1:03:00.560
<v Speaker 1>one thing like there's some songwriters I know when which

1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, that they've not given up, but you know,

1:03:05.280 --> 1:03:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you hear the cynicism and their songwriting. But I mean

1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:14.040
<v Speaker 1>because of that six so almost closely with this could

1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:16.960
<v Speaker 1>be a dream deferred. This is yeah, like how do

1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you tell someone to hang on to a dream? But

1:03:18.880 --> 1:03:21.280
<v Speaker 1>this could be a dream deferred? And I always wondered,

1:03:21.480 --> 1:03:26.160
<v Speaker 1>like even and you're pursuing that, like is I'm not

1:03:26.240 --> 1:03:28.520
<v Speaker 1>asking about your peer group, but even like with family

1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:30.760
<v Speaker 1>members or do you have a friend circle that.

1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:33.240
<v Speaker 3>You can lean on?

1:03:33.560 --> 1:03:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Like A yeah, actually one of those people that I

1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:39.400
<v Speaker 2>really lean on. And you know, I mean maybe we're

1:03:39.440 --> 1:03:41.400
<v Speaker 2>similar in this, but I don't trust a lot of

1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:46.440
<v Speaker 2>people because as soon as you give them who you

1:03:46.640 --> 1:03:50.280
<v Speaker 2>really are, people will never say that, they'll never do that,

1:03:50.480 --> 1:03:54.560
<v Speaker 2>but they always use some of the hardest moments against you.

1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:58.440
<v Speaker 2>And I would never do that to anybody. Like so

1:03:58.520 --> 1:04:00.960
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard for me to open up. I have

1:04:01.080 --> 1:04:04.720
<v Speaker 2>a very very very few people that really really really

1:04:04.880 --> 1:04:08.960
<v Speaker 2>know like my deepest insecurities, my.

1:04:11.080 --> 1:04:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Vulnerabilities, all of them.

1:04:14.160 --> 1:04:17.080
<v Speaker 2>And one of those people over the years that I've

1:04:17.760 --> 1:04:19.680
<v Speaker 2>that has gotten a lot of that that I've called

1:04:19.800 --> 1:04:22.840
<v Speaker 2>crying before. And I don't like crying to people. The

1:04:22.880 --> 1:04:24.520
<v Speaker 2>only person I'll do that too, is like my mom

1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:28.280
<v Speaker 2>or like my dad. I hate crying in front of people,

1:04:28.360 --> 1:04:29.400
<v Speaker 2>but that's Britney Spencer.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. Well, I mean you're gonna look as a person

1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:38.280
<v Speaker 1>who again like we to get out on ourselves first

1:04:38.360 --> 1:04:42.840
<v Speaker 1>before we let the world see it. I highly recommend this.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've just allowed crying in baseball maybe like four

1:04:47.360 --> 1:04:49.680
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Like no, but it was to the point

1:04:49.720 --> 1:04:51.880
<v Speaker 1>where I didn't know how. Literally I literally didn't know

1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:54.240
<v Speaker 1>how to cry, Like I was so good at at

1:04:55.480 --> 1:04:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that literally I became world famous for just having

1:04:58.840 --> 1:05:00.240
<v Speaker 1>no emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, but there's so many emotions you just like

1:05:02.400 --> 1:05:05.880
<v Speaker 2>sometimes like and I'm at a point like even crying

1:05:06.040 --> 1:05:10.240
<v Speaker 2>like in front of people, Like it's I have to

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<v Speaker 2>be really really really really really really really upset, like

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<v Speaker 2>to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you, all right. My last three questions are

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<v Speaker 1>you a bucket list person? And what is the bucket

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<v Speaker 1>list that you really want to accomplish?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I used to be a bucket list person,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am not a bucket list person anymore, because.

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<v Speaker 3>There has to be a dream that you want achieve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I it's so weird. It's so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I had all these you know, I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>had all these things I wanted to achieve, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>was Grammy nominated while I was pregnant, and I was expecting,

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<v Speaker 2>like to be Grammy nominated, and then I had to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, go to the Grammys after just giving birth,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I was emotional and I was pumping at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and you know, like all the things that

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<v Speaker 2>happened when a woman has a baby, and like winning

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<v Speaker 2>a Grammy was the one thing like I wanted so

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<v Speaker 2>so so bad. But the thing that I've seen as

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten older in life, and you know, people have

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<v Speaker 2>so much They hold so much value and like things

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<v Speaker 2>and like trophies, and it's like, well what does that mean. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an accolade, but what stake does it really really

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<v Speaker 2>have in your life? And I think after giving birth

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<v Speaker 2>to my son, almost losing my son, like that's the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing that matters to me, Like it really is,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've I've gone and done some of the most

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<v Speaker 2>amazing things I've seen at the super Bowl, like that

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<v Speaker 2>was that was a dream and I did achieve that,

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<v Speaker 2>and afterwards, I was like, well, still feel like myself.

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<v Speaker 1>The grass is always going to be green on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side, and then whatever you achieve, you'll shrug it

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<v Speaker 1>off because there's something else, yeah, of the pike that

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<v Speaker 1>you want. Wait, okay, So I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is still a dream for country artists, But have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever played the grand Ole Opry?

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<v Speaker 2>I have played the grand Ole Opry.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it just the lure of playing the place?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like it is.

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<v Speaker 3>So the point of Sisters. You know they got nominated

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<v Speaker 3>back in seventy four at the Grammy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they told you know, they were the first, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess black women to play the grand Opery and set.

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<v Speaker 3>So what was the feeling like?

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<v Speaker 2>It was definitely magical at the time, Like I was

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<v Speaker 2>so nervous. I'd spent maybe four or five years in

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<v Speaker 2>Nashville at the time pounding the pavement. I had management

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<v Speaker 2>at the time that was I don't want to say this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like they were like having two older

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<v Speaker 2>white men trying to understand a black woman that they

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<v Speaker 2>were putting me in I'm a I'm a circle and

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<v Speaker 2>they were trying to fit me in a square. And

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<v Speaker 2>I had dealt with so much of that. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I finally got to sing up the grand Ole Opry,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what you would equivalate that too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like surviving the Apollo that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like like if you you know, if that's

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<v Speaker 2>how you were discovered they write it wasn't Jazz and

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<v Speaker 2>Sullivan on Apollo, Like if that was like the way

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<v Speaker 2>for you to get you know, discovered and gets your chance.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's kind of like that. It's like a rite

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<v Speaker 2>of passage into country music. And it's just this I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to describe it. It's just something that's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a tradition in country music that you know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people with Dolly Pardon Charlie Pride, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a history thing, got it.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the hardest creative block that you've overcome.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the hardest creative block that I overcome. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's right now. When I say I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts in my head, that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I would do anything to be you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Like even as I'm talking to you, I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>editing this film, and I gotta make this phone call

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<v Speaker 1>and I make sure my plane tickets are ready to

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know what that's like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite lovely, really.

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<v Speaker 3>Like to just well, is there a fear that you

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<v Speaker 3>can't come back?

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<v Speaker 2>Or yes, there's that. There's a huge fear of that

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. And I'm I'm taking that thought and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>putting it over there because I've worked my ass off.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be fine for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very long time. And I do. And I am

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<v Speaker 2>starting to get thoughts in my head and thoughts that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, is this stupid? Is this dumb? And

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll say it in a meeting and people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I like that idea, and I'm like, oh so, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trusting this creative block moment of just letting

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<v Speaker 2>it be what be.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that's a good thing and I think

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be focused. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So my last question to you, all right is when

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<v Speaker 1>all is said and done, what's the one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you really hope people say about you.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope people say that she saw me, like really

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<v Speaker 2>really really saw me. You know, this industry, this world,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like people are so narcissistic and me, me, me,

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<v Speaker 2>me me. That is something that I hate so much

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<v Speaker 2>about society, about the individualism is it's a beautiful thing

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to have that freedom, but it also

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<v Speaker 2>stops people from seeing other people. And I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>people say that about me, that she really saw me,

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<v Speaker 2>and like really really saw me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Mickey Guidan, I appreciate you and your artistry. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely see you, you know, And I'm not even trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cosplay that. You know, I came in under countries DNA.

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<v Speaker 1>A line share of all the country that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>listening to is sort of sparked off of you and

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<v Speaker 1>me not knowing that black people were in the spaces

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<v Speaker 1>at all or if I had anything. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just in following your store and your journey, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cheering for you in the authentic way, not the

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<v Speaker 1>Tyra Banks angered way. I'm cheering for you for real,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand so much and appreciate what you go

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<v Speaker 1>through and even the things that I don't even fathom

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<v Speaker 1>or or or wish upon another human being. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate that you are there in the trenches,

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<v Speaker 1>really really building a save space for someone to come

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty thirty and twenty four and twenty five and

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<v Speaker 1>still be here to do it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'd hope that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Take these brave steps and also take time off for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and to just thank you that I could have

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<v Speaker 1>just said thank you and that's it all right people.

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