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Speaker 2: I think we keep waiting for a package deal with
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Speaker 2: if he were a Buffalo Bill, would he want a.
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Speaker 2: coming up next hour. Be new and improved first place
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds. I think Joey Evado has the most hits
Speaker 2: of any Canadian born baseball player.
Speaker 1: I think he surpassed Larry Walker. That might be second
Speaker 1: on the list.
Speaker 2: But Joey Evado once he played like eighteen years, nineteen
Speaker 2: years all with the Cincinnati Rens.
Speaker 3: Yes, Pomy, Yeah, he's thirty nine years old. He's extremely Canadian,
Speaker 3: he's from Toronto.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is he all time hit leader in Canada? Yes,
Speaker 1: yes to Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at something from August of last year that
Speaker 4: he set the record for most games by a Canadian
Speaker 4: born player. But I believe I saw a story where
Speaker 4: he's got the most hits too.
Speaker 2: All right, it's NBA Draft Eve. Todd wanted to know
Speaker 2: the most overrated Eve. I don't know how we got
Speaker 2: on this because Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve are
Speaker 2: not overrated. I mean, New Year's Eve might be his
Speaker 2: people go out and go crazy, but you know, after
Speaker 2: age thirty, you're probably not doing New Year's Eve.
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve? How can that be overrated?
Speaker 4: I just threw it in there because it's a popular eve,
Speaker 4: not that that would run away.
Speaker 1: With the NBA Draft Eve. How is it overrated?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's raided like the NFL Draft Eve
Speaker 2: would be rated, but I don't think NBA Draft I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody's going, Yeah, let's.
Speaker 5: Celebrate NBA even now, milk and cookies for Santa Stern coming.
Speaker 2: It's Santa Silver, mister, NBA Draft, Eve, NFL Draft Eve.
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve. I put out Adam and Eve.
Speaker 4: I think that would just run away with it?
Speaker 1: Do you think so?
Speaker 6: I think so?
Speaker 1: But do you think Eve was overrated a little bit? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she sure takes a lot of heat. She does.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she sure takes a lot of heat. Yeah, Adam doesn't,
Speaker 5: not as much as he of course not Adams. Just
Speaker 5: like now, it wasn't me as Eve. All they do
Speaker 5: is order to take out She gave me an apple
Speaker 5: basically set up all the time after that, Adam couldn't
Speaker 5: handle his own stuff.
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Speaker 1: What's the poll question for hour two?
Speaker 5: Seaton God admit, I'm kind of surprised with the results
Speaker 5: of our one. Okay, if you're Portland, would you rather
Speaker 5: have bam Adebayo or the third?
Speaker 1: Overall pick?
Speaker 5: Right now, it's at about fifty eight percent?
Speaker 1: Would rather have the third? Overall pick.
Speaker 5: I wonder why that is?
Speaker 2: Well, I think you want the future. I don't know
Speaker 2: how many people want what is right now, right in
Speaker 2: front of us. It's the possibility. Oh my gosh, what
Speaker 2: could this guy, Scoot Henderson be.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Could it be the next to Anthony Edwards? Does he
Speaker 2: help you now? Does he help you in the next
Speaker 2: two years? How much does he help you now? Because
Speaker 2: Portland has two different agendas, it feels like, or at
Speaker 2: least they've had that. They're trying to build a round Dame,
Speaker 2: but they haven't and at some point you have to
Speaker 2: realize to better the franchise, you might have to give
Speaker 2: up the franchise player.
Speaker 7: Yes, mart If Scoot gets drafted by the Blazers, I
Speaker 7: can already see the headlines.
Speaker 2: Scoot over, oh, scoot over Dame. All all right, I'm
Speaker 2: going to give you a bloop on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Somebody just submitted, by the way, Kurt on Twitter just
Speaker 5: said that Victor Weanma's wem Buanyama's nickname should be the franchise.
Speaker 1: French French French franchise franchise. I like that. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: We came up with the French Prince. Yeah, the franchise.
Speaker 2: Crowned Vic Pauli came up with s car goat.
Speaker 1: Yet not yet Victor wasn't asked about it.
Speaker 2: No, no, not nationally anyway. But no, he was at
Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium. He's doing all the great things. You know
Speaker 2: that that's where you go. Our guy's in town and man,
Speaker 2: he loves New York. He's embracing New York. He's on
Speaker 2: the subway. He's going to Yankee Stadium. Yeah, he's going
Speaker 2: to be gone on Friday or late Thursday night. He'll
Speaker 2: be in San Antonio. Nicks are back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, enjoy really Well, if you're the Knicks, aren't you
Speaker 5: rambling all jets right now?
Speaker 1: How the hell do we get this number one over?
Speaker 2: Okay, if this was soccer, could you pay the Spurs
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars like a transfer fee?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that you just buy Victor one Bayama.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But sometimes if they really don't want to get rid
Speaker 5: of somebody, they'll say, okay, the transfer fee is.
Speaker 1: A billion dollars. Oh you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's not always just there's not just a set price.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you could totally just say, h it will
Speaker 5: give you you know, one hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 5: for this pick.
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Speaker 2: Victor Won bay Yama went to Yankee Stadium. He also
Speaker 2: sat down with JJ Reddick old Man in the three
Speaker 2: podcast and he said that he's not bothered by the expectations.
Speaker 8: When someone says that you are the best prospect in
Speaker 8: a generation, the best prospects since Lebron. I believe one
Speaker 8: of my colleagues calls you the best prospect ever in
Speaker 8: team sports. That just goes in one ear and out
Speaker 8: the other. There's no pressure for that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, true, no pressure from that because uh, you know
Speaker 7: I and uh it's not like a reward when they
Speaker 7: say that, you know, Okay.
Speaker 2: Is he the greatest prospect in the history of team sports.
Speaker 2: Now that's a hot take coming from the mother Ship,
Speaker 2: But I don't know who put that out there. Was
Speaker 2: that Kendrick Perkins or somebody put out a sizzling hot take.
Speaker 1: Did Wendy put.
Speaker 9: That out there?
Speaker 2: Brian Windhors put that out there? Not necessarily a hot taker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, POUM.
Speaker 3: If you looked at it like this, let's say, right
Speaker 3: before the draft on draft night, the biggest sure thing,
Speaker 3: most hype, most expectations, and most belief that they'll be awesome.
Speaker 3: I gotta throw shack in there. Coming out of college,
Speaker 3: there weren't a lot of questions, maybe about his offensive arsenal,
Speaker 3: but he looked down at Patrick Ewing come out of
Speaker 3: college felt like a sure thing. There weren't any questions.
Speaker 3: It was just I can't believe we're getting him in
Speaker 3: Orlando or New York. And with if you said another sport,
Speaker 3: I'll see John Elway. You know, there's no questions. You know,
Speaker 3: there are no hesitation.
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's recency biased. That might have been Woje.
Speaker 2: Was it Woje who said, and this is.
Speaker 1: Where I go. You don't have to hype this.
Speaker 2: This was on the night of the draft lottery, I think,
Speaker 2: and Wode said, you know, maybe the greatest team prospect
Speaker 2: to ever come into the league, any league, And I went, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't think I would agree with that. There's more
Speaker 2: of a mystery there with Victor Wan Bayama. We had
Speaker 2: seen Patrick Ewing play four years, We had seen Shock
Speaker 2: play three, we had seen John Elway play at Stanford.
Speaker 2: The unknown, you know, that's where that's what we love,
Speaker 2: We crave that. Have you seen this guy? And this
Speaker 2: is why people bought into Sports Illustrated when they did
Speaker 2: an April Fool's Day article on Sid Finch and he
Speaker 2: was supposed to be this phenom and he was going
Speaker 2: to be a picture for the Mets. And he threw
Speaker 2: like one hundred and forty miles an hour, and you know,
Speaker 2: he followed the Dali Lama and like all.
Speaker 1: These crazy things.
Speaker 2: But people bought into it, and it was an April
Speaker 2: Fool's Day article.
Speaker 1: But it's the unknown. Have you heard about this guy?
Speaker 2: Nobody had heard about him, but everybody believed in it.
Speaker 2: Do I think Victor Wan Bayama can be a great player?
Speaker 1: Yes? Can I Can he be great at both ends? Yes?
Speaker 2: There's so many things that you'll fall in love with.
Speaker 2: But he's going to block so many shots. That's the
Speaker 2: one thing that will stand out immediately. You're going to
Speaker 2: go man, people aren't going to go inside because he's
Speaker 2: going to get a piece of your shot. That's the
Speaker 2: one thing he's going to have guaranteed when he starts offensively,
Speaker 2: that's going to take a little while. Where's his sweet spot?
Speaker 2: Where is Popovich? How is he going to feature him?
Speaker 2: Is he going to load him up with minutes? Is
Speaker 2: he going to ease him in? And Pop doesn't care
Speaker 2: about you know, hey, let me play to your expectations.
Speaker 2: Pop is here to develop him. Tim Duncan was ready
Speaker 2: to play David Robinson, ready to play Victor Wumbayama. Is
Speaker 2: going to take a couple of years before we get
Speaker 2: to really see how great he can be. But to
Speaker 2: have that kind of ball handling skills and the touch
Speaker 2: that he has, that's the difference between him and Ralph Samson.
Speaker 2: Ralph could have been more dominating at both ends of
Speaker 2: the floor, but to have a skilled person at that
Speaker 2: height at seven four, Ralph Samson had touch, had a
Speaker 2: little bit of range there. He could run the floor.
Speaker 2: I always thought that, you know, he should have been
Speaker 2: the better center between him and a chem but Elijah
Speaker 2: On had great footwork. He knew what he could do
Speaker 2: and he mastered it. Whereas Ralph, I don't know if
Speaker 2: he ever mastered anything. I think he was just seven
Speaker 2: to four and at Virginia you kept waiting for him
Speaker 2: to just take over games, dominating, and he had quality
Speaker 2: seasons when he first started out. But you know, first
Speaker 2: time I saw him, well, I saw him in college,
Speaker 2: but I remember being at the Boston Garden when the
Speaker 2: Rockets played the Celtics in the NBA Finals, and that's
Speaker 2: when you started to see, Okay, the future of that
Speaker 2: team is not Ralph Samson, but you're, you know, still
Speaker 2: trying to figure this out. You gotta have footwork, you
Speaker 2: got to be able to have touch, You got to
Speaker 2: be able to pass. That feels like that's what the
Speaker 2: big man is being asked to do nowadays. You don't
Speaker 2: have to be a brute, you don't have to have
Speaker 2: you know, win with force. Even though the Joker wins
Speaker 2: with force, he also wins with touch. And I think
Speaker 2: Victor won bayamam. Can he be that kind of player? No?
Speaker 1: Can he be different and be better? Sure? But I
Speaker 1: think the expectation level is the unknown there.
Speaker 2: If he had played at Duke, we wouldn't have these expectations.
Speaker 2: But the fact, you know, in fact, he played in
Speaker 2: the French League. You're like, man, have you seen this guy?
Speaker 2: And I did this on the show. I told you
Speaker 2: when he was coming to the United States. I said,
Speaker 2: you know, get a load of the future. He's coming
Speaker 2: in and people hadn't really heard of him or they
Speaker 2: hadn't seen him, and here he is. Do I think
Speaker 2: he is going to be an impactful player. I think
Speaker 2: he'll have moments his first couple of years. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he's going to have one of those nights
Speaker 2: where he puts up forty, you know, twenty and blocks
Speaker 2: ten shots. Does he have that potential? Certainly, that athleticism,
Speaker 2: it's rare to find that in anybody, let alone somebody
Speaker 2: at that hype.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could better be one of those guys who's great,
Speaker 3: are very good in every category. Because he seems very versatile.
Speaker 3: He could as a rookie average eighteen seven and five
Speaker 3: and a couple of blocks and a couple steals and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, well, that wasn't that great because it's
Speaker 3: not twenty five points per game. But he's very good everywhere.
Speaker 2: But you've had people analysts who have said if he
Speaker 2: plays like if he's as a Kevin Durant career or
Speaker 2: a chem Elijah On career, it'll be a disappointment. And
Speaker 2: I went, if you said he can be a Keem
Speaker 2: Elijah On and I'm a Spur fan, I'll.
Speaker 1: Go, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: I'll take it because I think he's underrated. I love
Speaker 2: a keem Elaijahan. If you said he can be Kevin Durant,
Speaker 2: sign me up. So this is where it gets crazy.
Speaker 2: But he's in the right market with the right coach,
Speaker 2: and that'll help him because you know the expectation level
Speaker 2: will be on the outside. It'll be up to Greg
Speaker 2: Popovich to cancel that noise. You know he needs noise
Speaker 2: canceling headphones where he's just able to play, and you
Speaker 2: know the expectation level will be what he has, not
Speaker 2: what we have. And that's the way I would approach it.
Speaker 2: Learn the game, understand the game, play the game the
Speaker 2: way Tim Duncan did. And if you do that, you're
Speaker 2: going to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Smart unrelated, but kind of speaking of hype, you forget
Speaker 7: Amani Bateses in this draft. Remember him, he's supposed to
Speaker 7: be a projected second round pick. He's on a cover
Speaker 7: of Sports Illustrated after his sophomore year.
Speaker 2: I remember when he was going into high school. His
Speaker 2: freshman year in high school, It's like, this guy is
Speaker 2: the best player in his state already. I went, okay,
Speaker 2: and then I thought he was going to Michigan State
Speaker 2: ends up at Eastern Michigan and maybe he makes a roster.
Speaker 2: Here a couple of phone calls, Uh, Jeremiah in La,
Speaker 2: Hey Jeremiah.
Speaker 10: Hey Dan, how's it going? But today is the Summer Solstice,
Speaker 10: So I came up with five Summer Solstice sports related names.
Speaker 2: Oh oh man, you can't spring this on Fritzy.
Speaker 4: Pressure is on?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right.
Speaker 10: Well, Summer Solstice is like the longest day of the year,
Speaker 10: so that's kind of like Fritzy's five minutes stand up.
Speaker 1: So wow, that was a shot. That was a shot, Okay.
Speaker 10: So I have rafa Al Sun Doll Okay, like sundial
Speaker 10: Rrian Talonder Maddis. This is a very niche Mark.
Speaker 5: Tough talking on that trash walking in yeah yeah, dojo, Jeremiah.
Speaker 2: You can't walk into Fritzy's dojo and then get planting
Speaker 2: on your rear end.
Speaker 10: Come on, Rich, don't stare directly at the eclipse with
Speaker 10: your eyes. Son that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: No, no, I judge, that's good.
Speaker 2: Not you, Jeremiah, come on here, we got Pagan Stoyakovic.
Speaker 10: Oh my god, you need to use some research.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 5: The problem is we don't get what the solstice is like.
Speaker 5: Oh I wasn't aware that. You know, June twenty first
Speaker 5: was the longest day of the year. Is there also
Speaker 5: one in winter?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jeremiah Fritzi. You don't need to respond. You're good.
Speaker 1: I got your back, man, you don't need Sonny Jergenson. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's terrible.
Speaker 3: Hugh mid Green, Hugh Green, Hugh mid Green.
Speaker 4: Dave just solstice, Dave just sotice see that.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: You would have done better by not saying anything. I lost.
Speaker 4: Damn shut up, son though.
Speaker 1: No, that's not good. That's obvious. Sonny six killer oh
Speaker 1: Man Hello?
Speaker 11: Hello?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, all right.
Speaker 2: Orlovsky's going to join us. A few things talk to
Speaker 2: him about, including, uh, the next stop for Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm fixated on.
Speaker 2: Maybe the cowboys here, so we'll talk to Orlovsky about
Speaker 2: that coming up. We're taking a break here. We're back
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Speaker 1: What do you want to tell me about this summer solstice? Huh?
Speaker 4: The summer solstice the two months during the year, and
Speaker 4: the path is the sun in the sky is farthest
Speaker 4: north in the northern hemisphere or farthest south in the
Speaker 4: southern hemisphere. And there's some interesting information about the rays
Speaker 4: of the sun and how it affects long time.
Speaker 1: But you act like you knew this. You looked it up.
Speaker 4: I did look it up. I had a journal idea
Speaker 4: what it was, but I wanted the more scientific definition
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I don't want any more nicknames attached to summer.
Speaker 4: Solstice like Jennifer capric Cornotti.
Speaker 1: Yes, ye, no, I knew we were going to go
Speaker 1: down this road, and we don't need to.
Speaker 4: Not even Jack Hemisphere, you loved him on the Steelers.
Speaker 1: It's terrible Jack Hemisphere. It's Jack Hammers, Jack Hamiser, Mark Heaton. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't see. This is where it's bad.
Speaker 2: You give me names out of the seventies and eighties
Speaker 2: and it's tired Jason Daylight.
Speaker 4: That's current Conflien.
Speaker 2: The NFL is redoubling its efforts to reinforce the league
Speaker 2: gambling policy to players in the wake of a rash
Speaker 2: of recent violations. So I guess they put out a
Speaker 2: pamphlet or like a gambling policy that they handed out
Speaker 2: to all of their players. Here are the key rules
Speaker 2: of gambling with players in the NFL. Number one, don't
Speaker 2: bet on the NFL wowing good thing. They told us that.
Speaker 2: Don't gamble at your team's facility. I guess go outside
Speaker 2: and then gamble. Don't have somebody bet for you. Don't
Speaker 2: share team inside information. Don't enter a sportsbook during the
Speaker 2: NFL playing season. Don't play daily fantasy football. Do you
Speaker 2: really need to put this out? I'm guessing that they
Speaker 2: put this out and then they're just reemphasizing I'm going
Speaker 2: to go back to what I said a while ago.
Speaker 2: The NFL brought in Peyton Manning and maybe Tom Brady
Speaker 2: to talk about the evils of gambling while being fully
Speaker 2: in bed with gambling as a league. But I would
Speaker 2: have had Calvin Ridley, you know, whether it's by zoom
Speaker 2: or in person, and talk to the players. Hey, I
Speaker 2: did this. I bet this amount of money. I got
Speaker 2: suspended for a year. It cost me eleven million dollars.
Speaker 2: You know what, that's an example, and I can this
Speaker 2: is just language in a pamphlet. That's a guy who
Speaker 2: actually lost money. I don't need an HR pamphlet. That
Speaker 2: guy right in front of me, that guy lost eleven
Speaker 2: million dollars because he did this. Now, nobody thinks they're
Speaker 2: going to get caught. You don't gamble and you go, man,
Speaker 2: I might get caught. You gamble because you don't think
Speaker 2: you're going to get caught or oh this is you know,
Speaker 2: this is nothing. I'm only betting, you know, fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: That's what Calvin Ridley did and it's not the total.
Speaker 2: The act is the reason why he got suspended, and
Speaker 2: he lost eleven million dollars. But they put out a
Speaker 2: pamphlet and of course number one is don't bet on
Speaker 2: the NFL message sent loud and clear. Dan Orlovsky of
Speaker 2: the Mothership joining us on the program, let me start
Speaker 2: with that. You know, the NFL is trying to reach
Speaker 2: out to its players, but is there a better way
Speaker 2: to go about telling them about the evils of gambling.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I honestly thought Dan, that the Calvin Ridley suspension would
Speaker 6: have pretty big impact. You know, for to lose a season,
Speaker 6: to lose the amount of money that he did, and
Speaker 6: the prime of his career. I thought that would kind
Speaker 6: of make people take a step back, and what am
Speaker 6: I really doing?
Speaker 11: It's I think it's really hard for the NFL to.
Speaker 6: Get everybody to have no interaction with gambling. When the NFL,
Speaker 6: as an organization or a product, has a tremendous impact
Speaker 6: or a tremendous interaction with gambling. So how do they
Speaker 6: get it better? I think it's almost impossible. Candidly, with
Speaker 6: with the with the access that we have to gambling,
Speaker 6: how easy.
Speaker 2: It is, and nobody thinks they're going to get caught.
Speaker 2: But I would have had Calvin Ridley front and center
Speaker 2: and said, Hey, part of your rehab in coming back
Speaker 2: to the NFL is you talk to the rookies at
Speaker 2: this symposium and tell them that you lost eleven million
Speaker 2: dollars by betting, you know, fifteen hundred dollars. That's how
Speaker 2: quickly it can happen and go away.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that that would be the one
Speaker 6: moment because the NFL, we would have people come speak
Speaker 6: to us, not even when we were rookies, annually about
Speaker 6: all of that stuff about injuries and you know what
Speaker 6: happens if you get injured, how you can you can
Speaker 6: get player compensation, or in so many different different avenues.
Speaker 6: We would have people come talk to us and remind
Speaker 6: us about the money that we can make, or the
Speaker 6: money that we're potentially older. What should we do with
Speaker 6: the four oh one k and what you so? And
Speaker 6: I don't know if they did that stuff with the gambling.
Speaker 6: I've been out of it for a couple of years now,
Speaker 6: so I don't know. But having Calvin sit there and
Speaker 6: be like, guys, eleven million dollars, that's more than ninety
Speaker 6: nine percent of you guys are gonna make in your career.
Speaker 11: I lost it in one year. So there's got to be.
Speaker 6: A better way for them to do it and for
Speaker 6: to get the players to really grasp the magnitude of it.
Speaker 6: But I just think it's impossible to think you're gonna
Speaker 6: get to every single one.
Speaker 2: What's the number one topic story here in the off
Speaker 2: season with the NFL?
Speaker 6: Yeah, probably probably still the Jets and Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 6: are they as good as they should be? You know,
Speaker 6: I think that you know, Aaron going to the Jets
Speaker 6: immediately vaults them into the conversation with the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 6: And I don't know if we've really appreciated how big
Speaker 6: a deal that is. We're talking about a team that's
Speaker 6: gone to the AFC title Game five years in a row.
Speaker 6: We're talking they are a pseudo dynasty. Maybe they're not
Speaker 6: the New England Patriots for twenty years dynasty. And to
Speaker 6: think that one forty year old quarterback coming to a
Speaker 6: team immediately puts that team there with the one that's
Speaker 6: gone to five AFC title games.
Speaker 11: That's a really big deal.
Speaker 1: But do you believe that accurate? Do you believe that?
Speaker 2: Oh? So you believe the Jets are right there on
Speaker 2: the same level with the Chiefs.
Speaker 11: I think they are.
Speaker 6: I think the Buffalo Bills are obviously the off the
Speaker 6: field stuff that Buffalo is handling that's got to get handled.
Speaker 11: The Bengals are.
Speaker 6: You know, we got to see their young secondary and
Speaker 6: I'd say the second thing is Jordan Love. I mean,
Speaker 6: I think they're attached. You know, how good is Jordan Love?
Speaker 6: How good is and Love going to be? Because the
Speaker 6: funny thing Dan is we only talk about in the NFC.
Speaker 6: We talk about Philly and San Francisco. Right now, we'll
Speaker 6: sprinkle in Detroit, will sprinkle in Seattle. What happens if
Speaker 6: Jordan Love's really good, Well you go to the NFC
Speaker 6: title game too. Out of the last four years in
Speaker 6: Green Bay, that's still a really talented football team.
Speaker 11: But if Jordan Love's really good, they're right there.
Speaker 1: Well you would put Dallas in there as well, wouldn't you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No doubt, absolutely Dallas a good football team. I
Speaker 6: don't I think like the most important person Dallas's season,
Speaker 6: in my eyes, comes down to two people.
Speaker 11: Obviously the quarterback.
Speaker 6: I didn't need to tell anybody that Mazzie Smith their
Speaker 6: first round draft pick. If Dallas can't get better at
Speaker 6: stopping the run on early downs, it doesn't matter how
Speaker 6: good Michael Parsons is at rushing the passer. It doesn't
Speaker 6: matter how good DeMarcus Lawrence is at rushing the passer,
Speaker 6: because they won't get into those sits situations consistently enough
Speaker 6: for it to matter. You've got to stop Philly and
Speaker 6: San Francisco. Both of them excel at running the football.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Dan Orlovski, ESPN football analyst. I was
Speaker 2: wondering about Tom Brady's role with the Raiders. Why would
Speaker 2: you buy in or become a minority owner, be part
Speaker 2: of the process, but not really be part of the process.
Speaker 2: He said that he's not going to be involved or
Speaker 2: that involved. He's so competitive. How does Brady be involved
Speaker 2: but not you know, hands on day to day?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's going to be really difficult for
Speaker 6: him to transition to, you know, just being a person
Speaker 6: sitting on the back burner. Knowing what he's accomplished in
Speaker 6: his career. There's probably no better world to be in
Speaker 6: than professional sports ownership. Right now across any league, you know,
Speaker 6: it's just blowing up. So that's probably the genesis of
Speaker 6: why he got into it. Why would you not also
Speaker 6: want Tom involved? Tom has seen an experience and accomplished
Speaker 6: every thing in that world, So why would you not.
Speaker 6: I think it'll be very difficult for him to just
Speaker 6: sit back and watch a franchise make this decision and
Speaker 6: him go, I wouldn't have done that and or do
Speaker 6: these things or invest into this and be like no, no, no,
Speaker 6: we're doing it the wrong way. So now he's he's
Speaker 6: got attachments to the head coach, he's got attachments to
Speaker 6: the general manager. So maybe he will be a little
Speaker 6: bit more involved in publicly declaring.
Speaker 11: But I would want Tom involved.
Speaker 2: But could you imagine he walks by a film session
Speaker 2: or he walks out on the field and he becomes
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in camp just by walking walking past
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 11: It's like yeah, and just the frustration, the frustration of
Speaker 11: being like, how can you and not hit that pass?
Speaker 11: Or how did you not see that?
Speaker 6: Or absolutely or watching DeVante run wide open and him,
Speaker 6: you know, check the ball down to a tailback.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Dalvin Cook DeAndre Hopkins is is that going to
Speaker 2: be a package deal?
Speaker 6: Depends on where you know, Like, I don't see it,
Speaker 6: because I think both of those guys have better places
Speaker 6: for them to go than where they could go together.
Speaker 6: Like I do think I've said this if I was Dallas,
Speaker 6: why would you not call Dalvin Cook, Well, you're going
Speaker 6: into a season where you're leading tailback just broke his leg.
Speaker 6: Right now, we're six months ago he broke his leg,
Speaker 6: and we can sit here in forecast that three or
Speaker 6: four months he still broke his leg last year, okay,
Speaker 6: in a pretty bad way.
Speaker 11: You're a team that's won twelve games last two years.
Speaker 6: Why would you not have a better kind of plan
Speaker 6: b So, I think Dalvin to Miami makes a lot
Speaker 6: of sense, But then you know, Hop doesn't make a
Speaker 6: lot of sense in Miami. He doesn't necessarily fit what
Speaker 6: they want to do either schematically when it comes to
Speaker 6: kind of like the version of receiver that they have.
Speaker 6: If I was Hop, New England makes a ton of sense,
Speaker 6: Baltimore makes a ton of sense, but those don't make
Speaker 6: a ton of sense for Dalvin Cook. So I just
Speaker 6: don't think. I don't see the ideal situation where both
Speaker 6: of those guys go together. I also don't see how
Speaker 6: that makes financial sense.
Speaker 11: For either of them.
Speaker 2: I was also wondering about it if they did go
Speaker 2: to the same team, what's the best running back wide
Speaker 2: receiver combination in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Right now, good.
Speaker 6: Question, best running back, Well, it would be Josh Jacobs
Speaker 6: and DeVante Adams. That's the best tailback wide receiver combo
Speaker 6: in the NFL.
Speaker 2: What if I put Christian McCaffrey, Devo Samuel.
Speaker 11: Right up there. You know.
Speaker 6: The thing that would make those guys a little bit
Speaker 6: different is DeVos not as good as nor use the
Speaker 6: same way as Davante and Christians used just differently than Josh.
Speaker 6: Josh is a traditional pound the rock tailback. We know
Speaker 6: McCaffrey's just get the ball in his hand type of player.
Speaker 6: But they're right up there. I think those guys would
Speaker 6: be kind of one A one B. You know Tennessee
Speaker 6: with Derek, they don't have a legit number one yet
Speaker 6: to kind of put them into that conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Dalvin Cook and Justin Jefferson might have been
Speaker 2: that top combo if they were still in Minnesota.
Speaker 6: Totally, totally, they would be right right into that. They
Speaker 6: would be right up there with Davonte and Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 2: And I wonder, is Justin Jefferson going to be the
Speaker 2: highest non quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 6: Yes, you have to look at I have actually said
Speaker 6: this to Ryan Clark multiple times, like for eighteen months,
Speaker 6: I've been how does Minnesota keep them? You know, like,
Speaker 6: how does Minnesota keep them without paying him every single
Speaker 6: penny that he wants. He's a superstar wide receiver, He's
Speaker 6: as talented as we have in the NFL.
Speaker 11: He continues to put.
Speaker 6: Up numbers he could very easily be in a different
Speaker 6: Minnesota is an awesome place, but there's a there's other
Speaker 6: cities that.
Speaker 11: Are desirable for players to live in.
Speaker 6: And if you're justin and you continue to put up
Speaker 6: these numbers, you're gonna have outrageous leverage of I don't
Speaker 6: want to Maybe I don't want to live in Minnesota anymore.
Speaker 6: I don't want to play in this with this quarterback anymore,
Speaker 6: you know?
Speaker 11: So I think he will.
Speaker 6: He will be the highest paid non quarterback absolutely, especially
Speaker 6: in a past league.
Speaker 2: Uh, if you were Buffalo, would you have a retractable
Speaker 2: roof for a dome stadium?
Speaker 11: I think so?
Speaker 6: I think Buffalo because of who my quarterback is. I
Speaker 6: think that they are losing in advantage by not allowing
Speaker 6: weather to play its part, but also allowing weather to
Speaker 6: play too much of a part. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: like you, because Josh's arm go back to the New
Speaker 6: England game of two years ago.
Speaker 11: He has a distinct advantage that you want.
Speaker 6: Whether to play a little bit of a factor because
Speaker 6: it doesn't impact him that much.
Speaker 11: But you also don't want.
Speaker 6: Him or your team to be so hindered by having
Speaker 6: to play in you know, two feet of snow type
Speaker 6: of thing, because then that becomes you're not playing to
Speaker 6: your strength. So Josh is better. Every quarterback is better
Speaker 6: playing inside. It's easier. But I would have the option
Speaker 6: if I was Buffalo of let's leave it open and
Speaker 6: play to our vantage. Let's play, let's have it closed
Speaker 6: and make sure that we're at least on an even
Speaker 6: playing field.
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you so always, Dan, Thanks for joining.
Speaker 2: Us, Thanks Bud, Good to see you, Dan Lrofski of
Speaker 2: the mother Ship. You can catch Dan on NFL Live
Speaker 2: weekdays at for Eastern Spencer in Texas. Before we take
Speaker 2: a break, Hey Spence, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes I can't.
Speaker 9: Spence, So I had met.
Speaker 12: I've heard you say that you well, I guess when
Speaker 12: they were talking about the Dallas Cowboys and you had
Speaker 12: mentioned that you know we had lost a great running
Speaker 12: back and if we should go for Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 13: Yes, I think we should go for Dalvin Cook. But
Speaker 13: I do think it's a stretch calling Zeke great. His
Speaker 13: last two and a half seasons to me were mediocre
Speaker 13: at best, kind of like a third down back, you know,
Speaker 13: three yards to go. However, I'm curious to see what
Speaker 13: you think about Tony Pollard moving into the starting position.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I love Tony Pollard.
Speaker 2: If you've listened to the show, you know I'm not
Speaker 2: a Zeke Elliott fan. I never would assign him to
Speaker 2: that second contract. Never, But if you can get him
Speaker 2: to come back, because Pollard's coming back from a broken leg,
Speaker 2: I don't know how healthy he's going to be. And
Speaker 2: would I rather have an insurance policy like Dalvin Cook
Speaker 2: or a two headed monster Dalvin Cook and Tony Pollard.
Speaker 2: And you have a head coach who has said publicly
Speaker 2: he wants to run the ball more. Why not bring
Speaker 2: in Dalvin Cook and having Pollard there, then there's you know,
Speaker 2: no pressure on Pollard to get back sooner. And I
Speaker 2: could still now he might want more carries and be
Speaker 2: the featured back. I understand that but you're running a
Speaker 2: business here, and if I can get Dalvin Cook and
Speaker 2: he's not going to cost me, you know, maybe it's
Speaker 2: a three year deal, maybe it's you know, twenty seven
Speaker 2: million dollars total or something like that. That's the guy
Speaker 2: who gets a thousand yards catch the ball, and he's
Speaker 2: a really good player, incentivizing. But if you get to
Speaker 2: twelve hundred yards or x number of catches, that's what
Speaker 2: I would do.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: He turned down an opportunity to play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: They want to run the ball. Absolutely. All right, We'll
Speaker 2: take a break. More phone calls coming up. Our good
Speaker 2: buddy Joey Vado from the Reds will join us next hour.
Speaker 1: Back after this.
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Speaker 9: And Rich give me a hell yeah.
Speaker 2: Clayton Kershawn pitched seven shutout innings. Dodgers scored twice in
Speaker 2: the eight beat the Angels, so Kershaw's thrown twenty two
Speaker 2: consecutive scoreless innings at Angels Stadium. He's won six straight
Speaker 2: starts dating back to twenty fifteen. There also, I was
Speaker 2: watching the Yankees with Garrett Cole. I'll go back to
Speaker 2: when he was with the Pirates. I remember coming in
Speaker 2: and saying, I don't know how good this guy is,
Speaker 2: but I loved watching him pitch. He reminded me of
Speaker 2: Max Schurzer, where they just pound the strike zone. They're
Speaker 2: just it's not gimmicky. They just pound the strike zone.
Speaker 2: Garrett Cole ended the Yankees four game losing streak, beat
Speaker 2: the Mayor News three to one. The Yanks are seven
Speaker 2: and oh when he pitches after a loss, and he's
Speaker 2: four and oh with a one point eighty seven ERA
Speaker 2: in those games.
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Speaker 2: and Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Hey Sean, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9: Thanks for taking my call, Dan, first time, long time
Speaker 9: six foot a swimming down two fifty all right, thank you.
Speaker 9: I know you had to relinquish your fandom, and I
Speaker 9: certainly can respect that as a broadcaster or as a journalist.
Speaker 9: But I was at the game in Cincinnati last night,
Speaker 9: and that is an energy that is now in that
Speaker 9: stadium that we have not felt in Cincinnati in a
Speaker 9: very long time. And I think between the young talent
Speaker 9: Joe Evado coming back, it is just a totally different energy.
Speaker 9: So we'd love for you to make it back for
Speaker 9: a game sometime and feel that energy that you probably
Speaker 9: felt growing up in beautiful Mason, Ohio.
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you, Sean. Yeah, the Reds. They
Speaker 1: won ten in a row.
Speaker 2: That match is the longest winning streak in franchise history
Speaker 2: back in nineteen fifty seven. And then I won twelve
Speaker 2: straight back then. Now, I was lucky. I grew up
Speaker 2: in a baseball town, in the Big Red Machine, best
Speaker 2: team in baseball. You had Hall of famers at virtually
Speaker 2: every position. I was very, very lucky be able to
Speaker 2: go to those games. I went to Crosley Field, then
Speaker 2: they went to Riverfront and there's a there's an energy there.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, And I want to ask Joey
Speaker 2: Vado this. They lost one hundred games last year. They
Speaker 2: were sixty two and one hundred. I know they got
Speaker 2: an influx of young talent there. They have turned it
Speaker 2: around quickly. And Joey will join us coming up next tour.
Speaker 2: Johnny and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 9: Hey Johnny, Hey Dan and Dan.
Speaker 15: That's a broad six four sixty So best Eve Christmas
Speaker 15: Eve because I was born on Christmas Eve, much to
Speaker 15: my mom's Sugarn also won the weigh in One Man's Heroes,
Speaker 15: Another Man Zero. These talking about the Reds, and obviously
Speaker 15: they've taken the lead due to the Pirates losing streak.
Speaker 15: But here's a question for you. I have many Canadian
Speaker 15: friends and they all hold up to this I'm called cliche.
Speaker 15: Is Joey Varo. Joey Vardo done more than any animor
Speaker 15: Canadian athlete to perpetuate the myths or reality the Canadians
Speaker 15: are the nicest people in the world.
Speaker 1: Oh well, Wayne Gretzky.
Speaker 2: I'd say Wayne because he's called the great One, one
Speaker 2: of the greatest team sport athletes in history, and he's
Speaker 2: one of the nicest people. When you're round Wayne, there's
Speaker 2: no ego. You don't realize that that's the great one.
Speaker 2: When I first met him and I just.
Speaker 1: Thought, God, that guy is the great one.
Speaker 2: And then you watch him play and you go, there's
Speaker 2: certain guys that you just there are certain athletes you'd go,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it.
Speaker 2: If if there was supposed to be a definition, there
Speaker 2: might not be a definition. Messi and Gretzky are very
Speaker 2: similar in my mind because they don't dazzle you with
Speaker 2: oh my god, that guy's so big or so faster,
Speaker 2: so strong. They just have this inate ability to understand
Speaker 2: the game, and it's God given. They know what to do,
Speaker 2: when to do it, how to do it, and they're
Speaker 2: always going to be a step ahead of you. And
Speaker 2: that that is always what fascinated me about Messi and
Speaker 2: certainly Gretzky.
Speaker 1: I think they're very, very similar.
Speaker 2: Oh, Ryan, and Honolulu is joining us on the program.
Speaker 1: Hey Ryan, Hey.
Speaker 16: Ry, It's going to be a long day for that
Speaker 16: guy with the summer solistice names.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Ryan.
Speaker 16: I thought I'd let that land for you. Dan, I'd
Speaker 16: go into an Adam.
Speaker 1: Women aren't that innocent.
Speaker 2: I'd say it even Okay, all right, Okay, we're rallying
Speaker 2: here we go, Come on now.
Speaker 1: Sakra blu.
Speaker 16: As they say, mister Victor Wanbayama nicknamed yesterday when Byama
Speaker 16: prejicted to go to Santa Tonio, Right.
Speaker 1: Dan, Yes, Ryan, Well to the Victor go the spurs.
Speaker 16: Okay, it's the nicknames for you, ye, Victor difference.
Speaker 9: Hi, Right?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 16: What about the wembay Mutumbo Okay, I got I got
Speaker 16: the Eiffel vic Tower. You guys kind of use that, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 16: what about if he's got a jumper the Arctic Triumph? Okay, lastly, Dan, Okay,
Speaker 16: how about this is the winner? This is the one
Speaker 16: we got to call him the sleeping Lion, the sleeping lion.
Speaker 16: Awm bay my wembay am a wembay my wembay my
Speaker 16: wembay my wembey play me off, Dan, Oh.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you Roy. By the way, speaking of.
Speaker 2: There is ah, there's a line in john Wick four
Speaker 2: where Keanu Reeves says, suck bribe Bureau. And I said,
Speaker 2: oh wait, why that's where they're gonna.
Speaker 1: Have this duel suck And I thought, okay, so.
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil anything for john Wick four.
Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know, be ready when John Wick
Speaker 2: says suck, right bluh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I tried to watch john Wick four last night. My
Speaker 3: wife knows nothing about it. I go, have you seen
Speaker 3: any of these movies? He goes, No, it's Keanu Reeves.
Speaker 3: When we started watching it, I don't think she was
Speaker 3: ready for what was happening.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a lot that goes on, yeah, real fast. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 2: there's a lot that goes on, very very stylized.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's.
Speaker 2: Good, but it's a fast paced. It's almost it's like
Speaker 2: two hours and forty five minutes. I think suck great blue, wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Chapter four, John Wick, I'm saving it. Are
Speaker 1: you for what? Yeah? I don't know, a plane trip
Speaker 1: or something. Maybe a plane trip. All right.
Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. We'll talk to Joey Boto,
Speaker 2: Joey Bodo suck Bato, Red's first baseman. More phone calls
Speaker 2: coming up as well. We're back after this final hour
Speaker 2: in this Wednesday