1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: You're listening to an air web media podcast. Have No 2 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Delicious Friends and welcome to Who Did What Now? The 3 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: history podcast That's not your history class with me your 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: host Katie Charlwood, history harlot and reader of books. It 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: is November and if you are listening on the day 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: of release slash week of release, I am going to 7 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: be in Edinburgh and Newcastle. I've got live shows. They're 8 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: always more fun than these recorded episodes because I find 9 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: it's better not to do anything too repressing. I remember 10 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: I was doing a show with the Shit Talk History 11 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: boys Kevin and Jason, and we were like, oh, what 12 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: will we do? And I have this whole joke about 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the Irish broad is always a really good fun one 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: for us specifically, and we were trying to decide which 15 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: one to pick, and it was between who was it now? 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: It was, oh, the first woman to be condemned to 17 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: the lectric chair in the US, so her and he 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: and we were like, it was either going to be 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: her or it was going to be like the Saint 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: Patrick's Battalion, which everybody dies in the end of that one. 21 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not sure that's a really good 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: ending to a show and Kevin quick as a whip 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: goes it worked for Shakespeare, the Bastard. The Bastard you 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: can tell he's a professional comedians, so he's so fucking funny. 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: And Jason is so quick the boys. I wish I 26 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: was as quick witted as those two were, because they 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: were absolutely fabulous, those boys. So if you don't listen 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: to Shite Talk History podcast, it's an Irish history podcast. 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: The boys are fucking hilarious. They get guests on. You 30 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: should be listening to them. If you're not, like, do that. 31 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: So life news. I am just back from the Netherlands. 32 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I was doing some stuff over there, and I've got 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: two shows this weekend if you're listening on day of 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: release or even week of release, Saturday and Sunday, So 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Saturday the sixteenth and Sunday the seventeenth. I am in 36 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: Edinburgh and Newcastle, like respectively. So if you want to 37 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: come see me, there's gonna be there's gonna be an 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: option you can come see me. Right, it's gonna be fun. 39 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: If they're always good, they're always fun the live shows, 40 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: So come see me, that is what you should do. Yeah, 41 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: I've been all over the place. I've got some pretty 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: big stuff happening soon and then the and I am 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: just solidifying those dates for the US too for next year, 44 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: and I am excited, and there's just so much happening 45 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: right now. It's it's wild. I've got stuff happening in Ireland, 46 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: I've got stuff happening in the US. I'm working out 47 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: some mainland Europe stuff, so like that will hash it out. 48 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: I need a tour manager or something at this point. 49 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: I need an agent, is what I need. And I 50 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: remember talking about getting an agent, and my pal was like, 51 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: how do you not even have a speaking agent, which 52 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: is a fair question. I don't know. I don't know 53 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: why I don't have one yet. But I know what 54 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: you're thinking. You're thinking, Kaye, quit your jibbil jabba in 55 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: fact me, in fact you I will. But first we 56 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: have got to get our source on. And our sources 57 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: are A Mind of her Own. Women Prospectors in the 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: American West by Sally's and Janny. European Immigrant Women in 59 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: the United States, A biographical dictionary by Judy Barrett Littoff, 60 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: Nellie Cashman and the North American Mining Frontier by Don Chapout. 61 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: Nellie Cashman by John p Clem, Klondike Women by Melanie J. Mayer, 62 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: Stalwart Women, Frontier Stories of Indomitable Spirit by Leo W. Banks, 63 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: gold Rush Queen, The Extraordinary Life of Nellie Cashman by 64 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Thora caerr Illing, and of course our favorites Biography dot 65 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: com and History dot Com. I was sitting comfortably good. 66 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: Then let's begin. Now today, I'm going to tell you 67 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: the tale of Nellie Cashman. Now, if you came to 68 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: my Cork show on the fourteenth of September in Coughland's 69 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: Comedy Cavin, you will know this tale because I told 70 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: it at that show. I but by recording equipment did 71 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: not record, and seeing as I was like, oh, I'm 72 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: coming back from Netherlands, I'm not going to have enough 73 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: time because I've got like an awards thing and then 74 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: another thing and then the shows. So I was like, 75 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll I'll just do this and I'm 76 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: sorry if you heard this before, but you know, maybe 77 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: just put it on mute or maybe you want to 78 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: hear me tell her again. And so here we'll go. 79 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Nellie Cashman was born Ellen oh Kitshen. I actually asked 80 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: people at the show how to pronounce this name because 81 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: it's kiss any, so I don't know how that's supposed 82 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: to be pronounced because letter K does not exist in Irish, 83 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: so I don't know how that's going, but I know 84 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: that it becomes cashman, so I assume it's going to 85 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: be Kashane right or kushion right right. Anyway, So she 86 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: is born in either eighteen forty four or eighteen forty five, 87 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: not really the best time to be living in Ireland 88 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: at this point, but anyway, we know she's baptized on 89 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: the fifteenth of October eighteen forty five, so seems likely 90 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: that she was born in eighteen forty five because they 91 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: try and baptize you quick year, you know, just in 92 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: case the Lord wants to take your fast because they're like, 93 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: let's get this kid as close to Jesus as we can, like, 94 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: let's get that going. Now, she's either born in Middleton 95 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: or Cove, which at the time was known as like 96 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: Queenstown in Cork. Definitely Cork the county, so somewhere there, 97 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: and she is born to Francis and Patrick, and she 98 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: is soon followed by a sister, Fanny. Now, at some 99 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: point in the mid eighteen hundreds, Patrick dies of what 100 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: whom's to say, I mean, you've got typhoid and cholera epidemics, 101 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: You've got you know, and Gorta Moore the fucking famine, 102 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: So it could be any of these. And so all 103 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: of this happens before the age of five. So somewhere 104 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: between eighteen fifty and eighteen fifty two, Francis, Nellie and 105 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Fanny emigrate to the USA. What was that they emigrated? 106 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: They were immigrants, huh. Interesting. So they end up in 107 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: Boston because there's already a load of Irish there. So 108 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: they get there because that's what you do, right, And 109 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: that's why you have areas like Little Italy and Chinatown 110 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: and whatnot, Because when you move somewhere, you move to 111 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: the place where people who are like you are. You go, oh, look, 112 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: there's somebody who speaks my language, who shares cultural norms 113 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: with me and societal norms, someone who will make me 114 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: feel more safe in this area that I am unsure of. Right, 115 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: That's that's what we do. You move to people you know. 116 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: And so Boston loads of Irish people in Boston, which 117 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, people who are like fourth generation American are 118 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: like oh, because they're onto nativism, which is its own 119 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: special form of bigotry. But anyway, in eighteen sixty one, 120 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: the American Civil War starts and it lasts for four years, 121 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: and during this Nelly gets a job child labor laws. 122 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: What child labor laws? Because she works in a Washington 123 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: hotel as a bell hop and elevator operator. Going down, sir. 124 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: That is a reference to Drupe from the movie Who 125 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: Framed Towards a Rabbit. It is a classic, and it's 126 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: weird as hell. The book is weirder though. So The 127 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: story goes that Nelly overheard some Yankee plans in the 128 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: elevator and snitched to the Union, thus helping them win. Also, allegedly, 129 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: again take this with a pinch of salt, in the 130 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: elevator was none other than Vice President Ulysses esque Rant, 131 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: who's also commander of the Union army, who tells Nelly 132 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: to go west, hit some brousa and taking this sound advice, 133 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: Nellie Francis and of course Fanny hit the Oregon Trail 134 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: and then die of dysentery. I'm just kidding. They go 135 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: to San Francisco, so the war ends and they're just like, 136 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, what, have we considered getting a tan anybody, 137 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: So WHI they're contemplating this young Fanny. We Fanny meets 138 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: a man and he is mad for Fanny, as many 139 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: men are, and so they get married. And so your 140 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: man and Fanny they start their own family. And in 141 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy, Nearly and Francis move on to Pastures New 142 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: in Virginia City, Nevada. Now I know I said pastors New, 143 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: but there's no pastors New. There's no pastures. It's a 144 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: fucking desert. Nellie and Francis they're following tales of prospectors 145 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: in the wild West, and so they're they're there, and 146 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Nellie gets a job as a camp cook because she's 147 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: a woman and options are limited. Following news of gold, 148 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: they head to Peoshan, Nevada. I have a feeling I've 149 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: pronounced that incorrectly, But here we are. So and she 150 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: goes there and she cooks, and then she saved up 151 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: all her money and buys a house, and not just 152 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: any house, a miners boarding house, like a rental for 153 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: high hole pickaxe minors, like, not like a youth hostel. 154 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: Clearly doing well for herself, Nellie manages to board and 155 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: feed miners when they were sick and strapped of cash. 156 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, she'd better be doing mel to be honest, 157 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: because that's that's a pretty crappy business model, you know, 158 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: feeding and boarding people who cannot pay you. But there 159 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: you go. And her mum, who was pushing it away 160 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: bit at this point, moves back to San Francisco because, 161 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, the rough Western life not super for her 162 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: at this point. And when Nelly is almost thirty years old, 163 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: gold is struck in the Cassier Mountains in British Columbia 164 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: and Canada. Over two hundred miners and prospectors head up 165 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: that way, and so does Nellie. So she sets up 166 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: a shop in Telegraph Creek and a boarding house. She 167 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: almost didn't though. Nellie and a bunch of prospectors they'd 168 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: heard of gold in Canada and South Africa, and the 169 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: way they decided what to do was they flipped a coin. 170 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: Like all major life decisions should be, should we get married, 171 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: let's lap a coin. Should we travel to South Africa, 172 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: Let's flip a coin. And so she has a shop 173 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: and a boarding house, and she's also prospecting because she's 174 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: learning from the fellas. Now all of the boys that 175 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: she's got up in the up in the boarding house, 176 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: like she's learning from them, Like she's paying attention. And 177 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: she's got money, so she's investing in these fellows as well. 178 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: So she's not just you know, worrying about her own self, 179 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: but she's investing in the people around her. Oh, what 180 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: an interesting thing to do. Who knew investing in people 181 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: would be a great way to build a community? Right? Weird? 182 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: And of course she's a good Catholic gal, and like Jesus, 183 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: wants to help the sick in needy, and she decides 184 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: to invest in a hospital run by nuns. It's always nuns, 185 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: isn't it. None nuts, none, And so she saves up 186 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars, which is nearly like fourteen thousand in 187 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: today's money, right, and she delivers it to the sisters 188 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: of Saint Anne's for the construction of the Saint Joseph's Hospital. Well, 189 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: she doesn't quite deliver it because when she's on her 190 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: way to visit the nuns, she hears that about twenty 191 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: five to twenty six miners are stranded back up on 192 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: Cassio Mountain due to like a freak snowstorm, and she 193 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: decides that she's going to go and help them because 194 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: the Canadian Army refused to. It's too dangerous, they say, 195 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: and Nellie's like, fuck that for game of soldiers, grabs 196 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: six fellas, some animals, maybe a wee donkey, and off 197 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: she goes to help the miners. And so she's got 198 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred pounds about six hundred and eighty kg of supplies, heavy, 199 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: heavy supplies. She's got rations and meds and I'm going 200 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: to assume a wee bit of whiskey because I feel 201 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: like that's just part of the part at this point. 202 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: And they can't take dogs because the snow is too deep, 203 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: and so they put on snow shoes and trudged forward 204 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: like you know the things that look like tennis rackets, 205 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: Like that's what they've got strapped to their feet. Like 206 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: they are like rescuing them, right, They're they're doing it. 207 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: And at one point Nelly is buried by an avalanche 208 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: and has to dig her way out, and so the 209 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Canadian Army here that Nelly, six men and a donkey 210 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: are attempting a rescue mission, and they feel that they 211 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: have to go get her. And because they're like we 212 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: can't let this women do this, Like what if something 213 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: happens to her, a reputation for being good Canadian military 214 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: will be up in the air. And so some troops 215 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: do find the expedition camped on a frozen river and 216 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: they try to get half of Tongue back and Nelly's like, no, 217 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: thank you, no, no, no, no, like like, hey, Nelly, 218 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: miss Cashman bestie, it's not safe for you here, we 219 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: need to get you back. And she's like, if it's 220 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: not safe for me, it's not safe for the miners. 221 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: So so either get with it or get the fuck 222 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: out of the way. AnyWho, As they're trudging through all 223 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: this bloody snow, like there were some places where it's 224 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: like ten foot deep, Like are they swimming through it? How? 225 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: I can't They're digging through it probably Like I've never 226 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: had to traverse ten foot deep snow. The Canadians who 227 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: listen will probably no better than I would. I don't 228 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: that just it seems a lot. It seems scary, I'll 229 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: be honest, I mean, I don't mind the cold, but 230 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: that just feels a bit excessive for me, you know. 231 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: And so after seventy seven days, that's two and a 232 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: half months, Nellie gets to the stranded minels. But when 233 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: she arrives, there aren't twenty six or twenty five men, 234 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: there's over seventy. And she's giving them meds. She's giving 235 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: them aid and food and vetamin c because you know, 236 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: scurvy which has made over tongue. What what is this? 237 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: Lats now? In fairness, I would like modern problems, please. 238 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: I want Wi Fi connectivity issues. Okay, that's what I want. 239 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: I want Why is my blusher not blending properly into 240 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: my face? Have I got blusher blindness? That's what I want. Okay, 241 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: that's what I want. I want to be worrying about 242 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: Sabrina Carpenter if she's wearing a wig or not wearing 243 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: a wig. Okay, those should be my problems. I don't 244 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: want historical problems. I don't want to worry about freezing 245 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: to death in the winter. I don't want to worry 246 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: about the return of rickets and scurvy like we cured 247 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: polio and polio was back, like what is happening? We 248 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: don't I don't want these. I don't want these medieval problems. No no, no, no, 249 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: no no no no no no. Please modern issues. Okay, 250 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: that's what I need. So Nellie is doing her best 251 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: to reverse the scurvy and other such maladies. Like she's 252 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: doing her best because you know, she's just trek two 253 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: and a half months through fucking mountains to get to 254 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: these boys, right, and she manages to save most of them. Right, 255 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: She manages to save about seventy five men, although we 256 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: do know that not everybody like survived through this, but 257 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: she manages to save seventy five. And this is where 258 00:17:53,560 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: she earns the moniker Angel of Cassier. So Nellie, she'd 259 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: save these men, and she reopened her boarding house. See, 260 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: I want to call it cashier, right, I want to 261 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: call it the cashier, But that feels like that's probably wrong, 262 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, Cassia case you. I know I could 263 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: look this up. I could easily look up this pronunciation, 264 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: but I wait for you Wanle to send me angry 265 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: messages about it. I love the fact that I knew 266 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: this several weeks ago, but now the pronunciation has gone 267 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: on me. So she opens her boarding house, and as 268 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: I said, she hadn't gotten quite as far as the 269 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: nuns to deliver the money for the hospital. But she 270 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: does deliver it. In eighteen seventy six, after the Prospecting 271 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: dies down up in Cassia, right, and she closes up 272 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: shop and heads to San Francisco for a spell, to 273 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: visit her mum and her sister. Nellie. The Prospector packed 274 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: her try can head for two on Arizona. Oh if 275 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: she went with her trunke teat trunk stomp stomp stop 276 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: regret nothing. So yeah, she goes to Tucson, Arizona, which 277 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: fun fact, was founded by an irishman, Hugh O'Connor. You're Malcolm, 278 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, has a we spell, visits family and then 279 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: she's like, no, no, I need to venture, I need 280 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: to travel. I need to just go somewhere and do 281 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: something right because Nellie's nose is following the gold. And 282 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: she sets up another establishment, the Delmonico Restaurant, the first 283 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: business in town owned by a woman. That's right, our 284 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: trailblazer Nellie here. By eighteen eighty, she's moved over to Tombstone, Arizona. 285 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: And if that sounds familiar to you, that is where 286 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Doc Holliday, the Erp Brothers, you know, the Wild West lawman. 287 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: That's where they are, and they're they're at this time 288 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: like this is official World West time she's there and 289 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: she's setting up businesses all over the shop. She's got 290 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: the Nevada Boot and Shoe Store. It sells clothes, tobacco, cigars, shoes, 291 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: and furnishings. She sets up the Tombstone Cash Store, which 292 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: sells groceries, and by the following year she leases the 293 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: Arcade restaurant. Now there's a story, and again this is 294 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: an alleged lace, so pinch as salt there fellas. The 295 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: story goes that in one of Nelly's establishments, there's a 296 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: patron who isn't quite fond of Nellie's cooking, and so 297 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: he insults it, at which point Dot Holiday Cox his 298 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: gun at said patron and is like, you want to 299 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: say that again, and he's like, best meal I've ever had, delicious, wonderful, 300 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: ten out of ten. Now, this seems like a really 301 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: appropriate time to just take away break, which means you're 302 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: either gonna hear a word from our sponsors or maybe 303 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: a host rate ad by me, or you're going to 304 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: enjoy a moment of silence if you're ad free. Hmmm. 305 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: The course of a year, she raises money to build 306 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: the Sacred Heart Catholic Church, So obviously Tombstone does not 307 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: have a place of worship, at least for Catholics, and 308 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: Nelly's like, I want to change that. Meanwhile, you know, 309 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: while they're waiting foresaid church to be built, Nellie convinces 310 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: Wyatt Erp to host Mass every Sunday at the Crystal 311 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: Palace saloon. Like she's like, hey, legendary lawman Wyatt Erp, 312 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: how would you like to hold Catholic Mass in your saloon? 313 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, sure. Nellie, like nobody says no 314 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: to her. I think at this point, I don't feel 315 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: like I'd like to cross Nellie because she seems really nice, 316 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: but she's like such a hard ass. I feel like 317 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: maybe not. Now she is bloody good with money, and 318 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: she becomes the treasurer of the Miners Hospital Association and 319 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: she brings in nuns to look after the Miners three 320 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: at least from the Sisters of Mercy and Tucson. So 321 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: the place where she had like built hospitals and stuff 322 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: or invested in hospitals. She's like, Okay, I'm just gonna 323 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a money for nunswap. So like brings 324 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: some of them over and she herself gets a job 325 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: as a nurse at a county hospital. Yes, run by nuns. 326 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: It's always nuts. Oh and when a nasty illness sweeps 327 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: through tombstone, Nelly and a saloon girl. Right, That's that's 328 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: all the information I have. Now, well that's a lie. 329 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: She's either a saloon girl, which is the term that 330 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: has been written down in books, or the other term 331 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: used for this lady is sex worker, which she may 332 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: very well be. Doesn't matter, not really relevant, but just 333 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: context because I was like, saloon girl, what a really 334 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: vague description? Like what is this? So? Yeah, her and 335 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: the saloon girl convert a restaurant into a makeshift hospital 336 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: to help the sick. And not only that, but Nellie 337 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: is sending money to the Salvation Army, the Red Cross, 338 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: and the theater because she is also a patron of 339 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: the arts. Is there nothing this woman cannot do? So 340 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: she is collecting donations and everybody everybody's donating. You've got 341 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: saloon gals, cowboys, business people, the whole shibang. You know, 342 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: when they say somebody is a good Christian, like, I 343 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: think Nellie Cashman is like genuinely, genuinely a definition of 344 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: a good Christian. Now, as far as I know she 345 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: hasn't done any racist shit, right, I couldn't find any 346 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: racist shit about her, right, And she's out there just 347 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: helping everybody. She's doing good deeds. I mean, she's an 348 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: independent woman who is thriving and surviving in a capitalist economy. 349 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: But she does go out of her way to raise 350 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: money for the less fortunate, and she manages to get 351 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: other people to also donate to Like, hmmm, I don't know. 352 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: If we help people in the lower rungs of the 353 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: economy and it boosts everyone up a little, doesn't that 354 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: make it better for everyone unless you're a capitalist because 355 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: capitalism actually relies on debt to survive. You need debt 356 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: in order for the capitalist structure to work. Like that's 357 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: that's just how it is. That's just a major factor 358 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: of it. So in order for it to be a 359 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: non capitalist society, there has to be no debt. And 360 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: that's not to confuse commerce with capitalism, Like you can 361 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: buy sell trade, that's not capitalism, that's commerce. Capitalism is 362 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: the structure in which this happens. It's like, it's like 363 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: Marxism is actually quite funny because Marxism exists within capitalism, right, 364 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: because all that Marxism says really, I mean, it says 365 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: lots of things, but the main defining feature of it 366 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: is that the rich should not be as rich and 367 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: the poor should not be as pool, and we need 368 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: to close that gap a little. Like that's what that is. 369 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: It means there shouldn't be too much over here and 370 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: this shouldn't be too much over there, Like the distance 371 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: between rich and pool should be closer, you know, like 372 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: there's no reason for billionaires to exist, Like what's that 373 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: thing of Like if you have somebody gets like nine 374 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety nine million, nine nine nine or whatever, 375 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: and as soon as they hit a billion, like whatever 376 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: the extra is, it gets taxed and it just goes 377 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: into funding shit, you know, like boosting the economy and 378 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: actually helping people, which is the whole point of existence. 379 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, she's like legitimately a good Christian, is 380 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: my point. Not the people who are like hmmm, the 381 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: gazzer d vent and they're twisting the minds of children. 382 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: But you know, polyester is fine. What your Bible's word, man, 383 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: That's all I'm telling you. Also, don't read the King 384 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: James Bible. It's like terrible fan fiction anyway, she does 385 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: try and lise a hotel in Bisbee. Back to Nelly. Now, 386 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: even in the show, I'm really bad, I will sidebar you, 387 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: but usually my sidebars are funnier as opposed to a 388 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: lecture and economics. So Nellie she tries to lease a 389 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: hotel in Bisbee, but it doesn't do well and so 390 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: she ends up staying in Tombstone. So she ends up 391 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: in Bisbee. And okay, I suppose I should add context. 392 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: So the Bisbee mascer or the Bisbee raid by the coach, 393 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: she's cowboy outlaw gang. That's a lot of names. Just 394 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: can you make your gang name shorter and make it 395 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: easier for us to remember? It would just be really 396 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: handae after you're going to have like a cowboy gang 397 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: in the wild West, just go back and make it easier. 398 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: And it's not the point, Okay. So it's a bank 399 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: robbery gone wrong and six people are killed, including one 400 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: lawman and a pregnant woman. Now being the eighteen hundreds, 401 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be a public execution for the outlaws 402 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: because you know that's they're from entertainment, because they didn't 403 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: have Love Islander, the Late Lake Show, and so this 404 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: is big news, National news. So they're like capitalism, that's 405 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: a thing. We're back again into it. I know, one 406 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: entrepreneur decides to build a large grandstand and sell tickets 407 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: to the hanging, and that's up to like one fifty. 408 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: So it's dynamic prices. You got a roll with Sorry, 409 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: that still stings for a lot of people. So yeah, 410 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: it's got dynamic pricing. So like it's just kind of 411 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: like price gouging and just raising ticket prices for whoever, 412 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: just to you know, because they want to make as 413 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: much money as possible. And Nellie, she's showing Christian kindness 414 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: to the outlaws. She's talking to them. She even heals 415 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: two fellows confessions because I guess the priest was busy 416 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: that day, I don't know, or maybe the priest just 417 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: couldn't get round of everybody's confession because it was taking 418 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: them too long because their outlaws and are therefore like 419 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: sinning and whatnot. But yeah, so instead of a priest, 420 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: they have Nelly, which just feels actually like probably the 421 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: most comforting out of those options. And she takes pity 422 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: on their souls and also thinks that selling tickets to 423 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: someone's death is a shitty thing. To do, and Nellie 424 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: lets we forget does have a wee bit of sway, 425 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: and so she calls in a favor, the favor being 426 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: getting a bunch of minyls to show up and smash 427 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: the grandstand. And they do, and it's caused a wee 428 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: bit of issue, and by issue I mean riot, because 429 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: again this is the wild West. You know, the criminals 430 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: do end up hanging. You know, they have a public execution, 431 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: but no one paid to see it is the difference. 432 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: So one of the Cotchies, Cowboy Outlaw Gang seriously seriously 433 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: shorter names boys shorter names, Daniel Kelly originally from Cork 434 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: as well. He's there on the scaffold and before you know, 435 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: the short drop and a sudden stop, he just shouts, 436 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: let her loose, which I think is probably the most 437 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: cork thing ever. Like, the only way it could be 438 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: worse is like tis a great day for drying out? 439 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: Like what are your options there? So after executions, bodies 440 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: typically are littered or doctored with so Nellie arranged her 441 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: minor men to watch over the bodies for like ten 442 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: days before they're buried, so like they're protected and they're 443 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: going to be decomposed to a point where they're not 444 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: going to have like anyone wanting to use their kidavers 445 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: for study. And this is not the only time Nelly's 446 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: stuck her or in right. The very next year, this 447 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: mine owner he wasn't providing a living wage and work 448 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 1: was dangerous as fuck, so the minors were angry and 449 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: wanted to lynch him. And Nellie she is an older 450 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: lady at this point, and I don't know if you've 451 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: ever met somebody over the age of forty, but they 452 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: really start not giving a fuck. And it's a fabulous, 453 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: fabulous point in life. That age where women just no 454 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: longer give a fuck is just a mindset that I 455 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: aim to be in. Like that is fabulous. So Nelly 456 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: leaps into a horse and cart and drives headfast into 457 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: the crowd of very angry minus like I can just 458 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: imagine her pulling up and just being like, come with 459 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: me if you want to leave, and she cuts them 460 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: off to Benson after that, like chuck the mine on 461 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: around takes them away, and I hope she has a 462 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: good talk to him about you know, I don't know, 463 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: increasing wages or making the job, you know a bit safer, 464 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: perhaps you know something, because you know, she did save 465 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: his life. Meanwhile, good old Fanny, her husband dies, So 466 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: Fanny no longer has her man because you know, he's dead, 467 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: and as a woman in the past, not really a 468 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: lot of options for her. And so she and her 469 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: five kids moved to Tombstone. So they're in Tombstone and 470 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: in the care of Nelly effectively, so she's like financially 471 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: supporting them. And in eighteen eighty three, Nellie decides that 472 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: she's going to take away trip to Baha in California, 473 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: which is now I think part of Mexico, but at 474 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: the time it was just a part of California. And shock, 475 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: the desert is hot as balls, and so they don't 476 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: find any if much gold, and her and the twenty 477 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: prospectors are sort of lost slash stuck in the desert 478 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: and other allegedlies. Nelly goes for aid. Some say she 479 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: was guided by an angel, some say it was heat strock. 480 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: Either way, she finds like a mission or a church 481 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: thing of some kind, and a priest gives her water. 482 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: Now apparently there's like gold around this church, and he goes, 483 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: please don't take the gold around my church, because it's 484 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: it's we need it to survive. And she promises never 485 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: to tell a soul, which is weird because like, how 486 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: else would we know this story if she told no one? 487 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: And this priest told no one because obviously he wants 488 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: to protect it. Like what is hmm, just saying so 489 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: empty handed? The prospectors made up with more prospectors who 490 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: go and jump in a boat. Unfortunately, the captain of 491 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: that boat is drunk, and so somebody has the great 492 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: idea of tying him up. Now did the men tie 493 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: him up? Did Nelly tie them up? Who's to say? 494 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: All we know is somebody bondaged up that captain. And 495 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: in Gwamouth, the crew and the prospectors are arrested for, 496 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, said captain bondage because it's like a partial 497 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: mutiny situation slash kidnapping, you know. And so the captain 498 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: presses charges saying that Nelly did it, and the American 499 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: consul was like, she's fine, let her go. So she 500 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: goes back to Tombstone and Fanny is getting so sick 501 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: she has contracted TV tuberculosis, and so she's then sent 502 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: to the nuns for like extra care in San Diego 503 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: and in eighteen eighty four, she dies of TV, leaving 504 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: Nelly to support her nieces, nephews, and her elderly mother. 505 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: Like Francis, is still alive. Now, all of these kids 506 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: are educated mainly by nuns because they never stop appearing 507 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: in this and some go to college. One of them 508 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: becomes a nun. Well, Nelly continues running stores, restaurants, boarding 509 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: houses wherever there was a want, and so she's just 510 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: moving around establishing businesses, just like following the gold and 511 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: she does this for a good few years. Men in 512 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: eighteen ninety eight, she moved to the Yukon in Canada, 513 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: like she's in her fifties, and she was among like 514 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: thirty thousand people had gone there, and like most of 515 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: the good claims were gone because it's the Klondike gold Rush. 516 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: And also technically as an unmarried woman, she couldn't technically 517 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: make a claim, but she made it work because by 518 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: nineteen oh one, less than one percent of women mind. 519 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: And so being Nelly, because Nelly is just a power 520 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 1: to be reckoned with, right, she sets up the first 521 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: female owned business in the Yukon, another Delmonico restaurant and 522 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: a grocery store. She goes up to Dawson by floating 523 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: up a spring for five hundred miles. That's dedication. I 524 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: don't think I'll be doing that in my fifties, to 525 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: be honest. And after a while she heads to Nolan's 526 00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: Creek in Alaska, where, surprise, surprise, she's still keeping up 527 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: with her charity work. She's still donating to all these 528 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: different like groups and charities and just everything. And she 529 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: just keeps making her story right, like the women just 530 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: cannot stop being a fucking badass. In nineteen twelve, at 531 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: the age of like sixty eight, I think at this point, 532 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: she becomes the first woman to vote right, and she 533 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: becomes a champion women musher of the Yukon and ran 534 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: a dogs led team from Nolan's Creek to Anchorage in 535 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: seventeen days Justice for Togo. If you haven't heard the 536 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: Great Race for Mercy episode, go back and listen to it. 537 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: It's a good and it's some good news. Okay, we 538 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: are good newsing it this month. And so she used 539 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: to hang outside this is my favorite thing for collecting money. Actually, 540 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: she used to hang outside salins and when the pot 541 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: was large enough, she'd saunter in, like if you can 542 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: afford to gamble, you can afford to donate, and everyone 543 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: would just be kind of shamed into donating to charity 544 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: because nobody's gonna mess with Nelly. Nobody messes with Nellie Cashman, right, 545 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: So she raised funds for mining equipment, she's raising money 546 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: for like care of people, education, healthcare, like she's she's 547 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: a one woman government, Like she's just going for it. 548 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 1: She just can't help herself, like she just does all 549 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: this amazing stuff, like she's she's a dog michell like 550 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: everything anything you know. In December nineteen twenty four, Nellie 551 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: ends up in Saint Joseph's Hospital in Fairbanks. She's got 552 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: pneumonia and pheumatism, and she's sent to Seattle, and Nellie, 553 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: not being an idiot, becomes very aware of just how 554 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 1: ill she is, and so she requests to be sent 555 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: to the Sisters of Saint Anne's Hospital, the hospital, the 556 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: very hospital that she had raised funds for fifty years earlier. 557 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: And on the fourth of January nineteen twenty five, Nellie 558 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: Cashman passes away from pneumonia are probably complications from pneumonia, 559 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: and she is buried at the Ross Bay Cemetery in Victoria. 560 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: British Columbia. And when Nelly dies, right when she passes away, 561 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: she is so well known across the country in all 562 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: of these societies and groups for everything that she did. 563 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: At the time the wind who passes away, her obituary 564 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: is printed in papers all across the region, like it 565 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: in all of the mining towns, Like every single mining 566 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: town is publishing the news of Nellie Cashman's death because 567 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: of everything that she did, because of how important she 568 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: was to them. And what I love about Nellie is 569 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: there's never any mention of a man in her life. 570 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: Like I think there was one moment where she was 571 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: like they were like, do you want to get married? 572 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 1: And she's like, m no, I'm good, Like I don't 573 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: need that hassle, and like so she's so focused on 574 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: doing everything else and like she doesn't want a man, 575 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: She doesn't need a man, she has no interest in it. 576 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: Like she just wants to go live her best life 577 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: and that's what she does and she helps so many 578 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: people in the process. It's like a genuinely good person 579 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: in history who most of us would have never heard about. 580 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: And I found her by accident, by accident, you know, 581 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 1: just because I was reading something that cross referenced, something 582 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: that made like a reference, and I'm like, hang on 583 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: a second, who is this person? And that was how 584 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: it discovered her, and so ends the story of Nellie Cashman. 585 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: If you liked my retelling of this, you can feel 586 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: free to rate in review five stars, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, etc. 587 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: If you want to follow me on socials. I interact 588 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: quite a bit when I'm not exhausted. Honestly, I'm pretty 589 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: decent these days, and I will have any news of 590 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: tools will be posted as soon as actual stuff locked in. 591 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: And I guess it's time for the usual recommendation time 592 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: for this. I'm going to tell you to go listen 593 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: to Shite Talk, an Irish history podcast, because those boys 594 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: deserve more love because they do because they're fucking great. 595 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: So go listen to them and tell them I sent you, 596 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: unless you're going to say mean things to them, in 597 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 1: which case, fuck off and say none, because those boys 598 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: deserve better. I thought you're listening for watching Hacks. Hacks 599 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: is so good. There's so many unlikable characters. I'm here 600 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: for it, like one hundred percent. It's funny, it's it's 601 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: a little cringeing and depressing, at points, but it's funny. 602 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: It's funny, and for reading. I don't know if I've 603 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: recommended yellow Face yet. Butter. There is a book called Butter. 604 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: It was recommended to me by a man in withtherstones, 605 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: not wetherstones, waterstones, waterstones. And it's actually a very good book, 606 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: I know, And so I think you should read that. 607 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: And with that I shall put you good night. Adeous 608 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: au revoir avuirazem my friends, A Bibbe