Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky, Hey jooky. I'm
Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, Hell,
Speaker 1: I'm ghosted. I gosdays.
Speaker 2: Please, hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted
Speaker 2: by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people
Speaker 2: that I like about the paranormal.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. I don't know why it's taken
Speaker 1: us so long, but we at last have Cameron Esposito
Speaker 1: on the show. Cameron Esposito, hilarious comedian actor. My mom's
Speaker 1: obsessed with the TV show A Million Little Things. Cameron
Speaker 1: was on that and tours around the country. So go
Speaker 1: see Cameron and we'll get into that in just a moment.
Speaker 1: Have you been watching my new my new videos I've
Speaker 1: been posting on YouTube. I will say it's, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not a television show. The budget is very very
Speaker 1: very tiny, so it's, you know, kind of a vlog
Speaker 1: style show. But nonetheless it's me ghost hunting and I'm
Speaker 1: spending a lot of time doing it and I'm loving
Speaker 1: every second of it. So as long as you're watching,
Speaker 1: I will continue doing them. And that is just called
Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez. The Haunted Doll on YouTube. Also, before we
Speaker 1: get to the episode, I just wanted to tell you
Speaker 1: that I am doing Ghosted Live on stage in San
Speaker 1: Francisco on the twenty seventh of October and La at
Speaker 1: Largo on the thirtieth, that's the night before Halloween. You
Speaker 1: gotta go if you're in the Los Angeles area. And
Speaker 1: then I won't be doing Ghosted Live again until December.
Speaker 1: December thirteenth in Seattle. I'm also doing stand up in
Speaker 1: Seattle that night, two shows in one night. And I'm
Speaker 1: also gonna be in Raleigh next month at good Night's
Speaker 1: Comedy Club doing just stand up about living people, not ghosts.
Speaker 1: And that is November seventh. Okay, let's get to the
Speaker 1: conversation with me and Cameron es Pasito and with this show.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's Cameron as Posito.
Speaker 3: Hi Ross, how are you today?
Speaker 1: I am very well, Thank you. I had to think
Speaker 1: about it for a second because I have to. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm come gotta be honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: All about the word truth teller.
Speaker 3: Man. You know, I've never met a less honest person
Speaker 3: than a stand up comic than me. No, not, You
Speaker 3: seem perfectly honest, I know. And the pantheon of stand
Speaker 3: ups you're on the there's.
Speaker 1: So much of earlier today. I was on this date.
Speaker 1: Oh really, because six months ago you told that same
Speaker 1: joke earlier today.
Speaker 3: That's a lie. The entire premise of stand up comedy
Speaker 3: is a lie. Look how vulnerable I'm being well, perfectly
Speaker 3: lit and I can kick you out, and you've paid
Speaker 3: to be here.
Speaker 1: So you're not allowed to talk.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. This is the least vulnerable situation any human
Speaker 3: being could be in, except for like, no, I actually
Speaker 3: think the President is vulnerable. Apparently, I see.
Speaker 1: I think it is still vulnerable if you it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like it when you are a comedian, I think,
Speaker 1: but because you're so used to just embarrassing yourself so much.
Speaker 1: But to the average person, the thought of sharing something
Speaker 1: that they think is funny in front of a room
Speaker 1: of strangers, that is so vulnerable.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I never even right, right because the
Speaker 3: taste what you think is funny?
Speaker 1: Yeah is.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: What I watched last night for the first time was
Speaker 3: half an episode of Love Island with my wife. And
Speaker 3: the reason I'm bringing that up is because every single
Speaker 3: contestant remarked upon how funny they were and how good
Speaker 3: their sense of humor was, And boy was I waiting
Speaker 3: for any.
Speaker 1: Examples for some good ones.
Speaker 3: Good ones were not launched.
Speaker 1: I you know, I try all different kinds of dating apps,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I'm in like the straight men looking for
Speaker 1: just women. I don't know whatever, but whatever their preferences are,
Speaker 1: I'm showing up. So there's so many of them that
Speaker 1: love to say I'm funnier than you. That's like their profile.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I've been in some straight situations recently.
Speaker 1: Oh no, this is a horror podcast, but we're not
Speaker 1: going to get that scared. We're here to talk about ghosts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you believe in them?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: I think I know why? And I think it's a
Speaker 1: word that starts with the.
Speaker 3: Cameron esposito Noo.
Speaker 1: It's a word that comes up every episode of this podcast.
Speaker 1: Coffins Catholicism.
Speaker 4: Oh that's why, that's why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mean talk about the original ghost in
Speaker 3: my life, the holy ghost. Well, the holy ghost absolutely,
Speaker 3: which exists between us right now as it does between
Speaker 3: all people interacting.
Speaker 1: Aren't you like a philosopher or like, didn't you study.
Speaker 3: The major and I almost I almost became a I
Speaker 3: tried to become a priest during the pandemic, but I couldn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to finish the degree. I just wanted
Speaker 3: to take lots of classes for no reason.
Speaker 1: It's so fascinating, though, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It is so fascinating. I can't I can't think of
Speaker 3: anything more interesting than I mean, it's actually the same
Speaker 3: thing as stand up, right, So stand up is a
Speaker 3: bunch of people being like, this is what I think
Speaker 3: life is about. And I'm going to come up with
Speaker 3: a whole like arc that will tell you what I
Speaker 3: think life is about. And religion is the same way,
Speaker 3: and the older the religion is, the more odd things
Speaker 3: from various time periods have been baked in and then
Speaker 3: down the line. Like when I first moved to La
Speaker 3: it was like right after going clear.
Speaker 1: With super oh silent, super popular.
Speaker 3: I would hear people in like a coffee shop, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, al read going Claire, can you believe what
Speaker 3: these people believe? And I'm like, yes, I absolutely can.
Speaker 3: Of course, in Catholicism, there's a miss Stick Saint Saint Teresa,
Speaker 3: who was a nun, and she would be visited by
Speaker 3: God and pierced by an arrow in her heart, and
Speaker 3: she would experience orgasms from her connection to God. And
Speaker 3: there's a really famous sculpture of her that's called Saint
Speaker 3: Teresa in Ecstasy. And if you look at this sculpture,
Speaker 3: she's like her faces, she's she's having an orgasm and
Speaker 3: then a little angel is holding a arrow that's like
Speaker 3: piercing her heart. Oh my god, it was very erotic.
Speaker 1: That's kind of hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the god entity was like a physical I mean,
Speaker 3: what's the difference between that and exorcism? One of them
Speaker 3: you have to change his sheets, come on, anything on that.
Speaker 1: I take exorcism very seriously.
Speaker 3: On the show, I see, maybe maybe I do know
Speaker 3: a lot about ghost but it's just from Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just from religion.
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I believe that the modern world, a
Speaker 1: lot of what we believe with ghosts, it comes from Catholicism,
Speaker 1: whether you're Catholic or not, because of like movies and
Speaker 1: culture and books and whatever. So much of it has
Speaker 1: to do with like being possessed and then having to
Speaker 1: have a pre show up. I don't know, just all
Speaker 1: of those kind of spooky ghosty demons and whatever. I
Speaker 1: was just watching The Deliverance on Netflix.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I can't see this book. Don't worry. I
Speaker 3: have seen clips on TikTok and I'm cures and I'm
Speaker 3: curious and I read the synopsis. This is how I
Speaker 3: really fun. She seems real fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not gonna lie. At certain points, I'm like, this
Speaker 1: feels kind of like a religious propaganda.
Speaker 3: It's possession. Possession is happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the devil. The devil's involved, yes, and so there's
Speaker 1: only one way to fix that, which is Christianity.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, and I'm sure you've talked about this before,
Speaker 3: but like even the resurrection story, Jesus' resurrection story he
Speaker 3: comes is so creepy because not just as he come back,
Speaker 3: but he goes up to his friends and he says,
Speaker 3: put your fingers into the holes in my hand, and
Speaker 3: put your hand into the hole in my side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you fingers in my hole.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he does say put your fingers in holes,
Speaker 3: because that's where he was stabbed with a spear in
Speaker 3: the side, and that's where he was nailed to the cross.
Speaker 3: Actually not at his hands, it would have been at
Speaker 3: his wrists, but that's not really.
Speaker 1: They really put their fingers in according to them.
Speaker 3: They they said absolutely.
Speaker 1: And what happened when they put their fingers.
Speaker 3: In went right went right through.
Speaker 1: Weird. He's like, you try, yeah, you try.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's terrifying. I mean, there's stuff baked in all
Speaker 3: this imagery that is so scary because yes, you can
Speaker 3: like devolve it and Glenn closes there, but even just
Speaker 3: like a crucifix is one of the most terrifying things
Speaker 3: that could possibly exist, because we go to these places
Speaker 3: and we you know, like celebrate Christmas and sing, but
Speaker 3: on the wall is somebody who's actively experiencing capital punishment.
Speaker 3: Like it's only revered because it's not like the modern
Speaker 3: day equivalent. It's terrifying. And then we put that on
Speaker 3: a little mini thing and we wear it around our
Speaker 3: neck necklace.
Speaker 1: I know. I think there's a lot of things with religions,
Speaker 1: especially older religions, that if you just thought about it
Speaker 1: as an outsider, or if you just removed what you
Speaker 1: were taught at such an early age, like it's normal
Speaker 1: to you, but if you really think about it, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: It is crazy. I mean, God, why have I never
Speaker 3: put this together? But it's also very it's very traditional
Speaker 3: ghost like if you think about a sort of a
Speaker 3: Christmas Carol. Jacob Marley is like carrying the chains that
Speaker 3: he wove in life by being a miser. That is
Speaker 3: the same way that in the Catholic Church. I could
Speaker 3: talk about this for such a long time, so please
Speaker 3: stop me, and that hurt me. But in the Catholic Church,
Speaker 3: if you're a martyr, so if like you're murdered for
Speaker 3: your beliefs, for the rest of time after that, when
Speaker 3: you're depicted in media, like if you're depicted in a
Speaker 3: painting or a statue in Catholicism, they have you hold
Speaker 3: the instrument of your death. It's why Jesus is on
Speaker 3: the cross. But it's also like, for instance, an Assistine chapel,
Speaker 3: which people regard as very beautiful. There's I can't remember
Speaker 3: which saint this is, but he was skinned alive, and
Speaker 3: so he's holding like a almost like a piece of
Speaker 3: draped cloth over his arm. But only if you know
Speaker 3: that martyrs how they died. Would you know that? Like
Speaker 3: that is like a guy and he's holding his own skin.
Speaker 1: Oh that's skin, it's not draped cloth.
Speaker 3: No, it's like, nice to meet you. Here's how I died.
Speaker 3: So it's very ghostly very that is a yeah, it's morbid.
Speaker 1: Morbid is very much I feel about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now when I think about you for the past few years,
Speaker 1: every time I think of you, I think of during
Speaker 1: the pandemic there was a ghost flying behind you at
Speaker 1: Dynasty Typewriter.
Speaker 4: That that's real. That's real.
Speaker 1: So tell us tell us what that was.
Speaker 3: You know, during the part of the pandemic where we
Speaker 3: were all grabbing at straws about what could possibly be
Speaker 3: a version of our job. I went to Dynasty Typewriter,
Speaker 3: great local theater in LA and I said, I'd like
Speaker 3: to teach like a stand up class for you guys,
Speaker 3: because that's something I had done when I was much younger,
Speaker 3: and we could do it in like for installments. People
Speaker 3: could join and there could be like a chat room.
Speaker 3: They can ask questions and stuff, and I'll teach people
Speaker 3: how to write their first five minutes of stand up.
Speaker 3: Because you can't teach somebody how to be a stand
Speaker 3: up comic, but you can teach them how to write
Speaker 3: their first five minutes. It's pretty fun, actually, Yeah, And
Speaker 3: so I think I think we had four installments and
Speaker 3: maybe on the third. I also thought it would be
Speaker 3: fun if instead of the camera being on me and
Speaker 3: behind me was the curtain. If I faced the back
Speaker 3: of the theater, and behind me in the camera was like
Speaker 3: an empty theater just to sort of be like, what
Speaker 3: the pandemic is happening? You know, the drive at home.
Speaker 3: So there was a darkly lit, completely empty theater behind me.
Speaker 1: And that place, the Hayward Theater has been around for
Speaker 1: a very.
Speaker 3: Long It's been around for a long time.
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact dates it opened, but it's
Speaker 1: like a historic theater.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very creaky. It feels like it's got a
Speaker 3: creaky vibe.
Speaker 1: And it's a theater, so you can assume there's a
Speaker 1: ghost in there.
Speaker 3: I didn't previously assume there was a ghost in there.
Speaker 4: Theater.
Speaker 1: Every theater has a ghost in there.
Speaker 3: What definitely did happen because there were also like hundreds
Speaker 3: of people on this class watching what was going on,
Speaker 3: and I think the theater was also watching. I can't
Speaker 3: remember if it was Jamie from the theater who spotted
Speaker 3: it first, but definitely there's footage. I'm just like talking
Speaker 3: about stand up or whatever, and behind me is an
Speaker 3: empty theater and uh, you know what is it like
Speaker 3: a seemingly a cloud of vapor. That's what it looks like. Wow,
Speaker 3: moves pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: I happened to have a great research team here and
Speaker 1: we have the clip. I spoke to Vanessa from Dynasty Typewriter,
Speaker 1: who gave me permission for us to talk about this
Speaker 1: and to show the god. To show the clip. Yes,
Speaker 1: and if you want to see it, of course, just
Speaker 1: go to ghosted by Roz on Instagram and the clip
Speaker 1: will be there. Gee, how could you show us the clip?
Speaker 1: We'll look over here on this TV. Yeah, sure, you
Speaker 1: got it, thanks jeezz. Okay, Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 3: First of all, it's an old hairstyle. You know what
Speaker 3: I mean. There's a real time stamp on this. For me,
Speaker 3: I'm relaxed and wearing all a leather jacket inside for
Speaker 3: no reason.
Speaker 1: Okay, so here you are talking teacher.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god, it's so much worse
Speaker 3: than I remember.
Speaker 1: Worse than which way, so as you can see something
Speaker 1: is floating.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so much worse than well, I
Speaker 3: think by worse I mean visible like I think I
Speaker 3: in my mind it was less extreme. That's pretty extreme.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you convinced that that's a ghost?
Speaker 3: Why is it moving like that? If it's not, what
Speaker 3: else would move like that?
Speaker 1: You know, I'll be honest. When I originally saw this
Speaker 1: in the Pandemic, I thought that it was floating around
Speaker 1: in the theater behind you. But you can see that
Speaker 1: it goes in front of you.
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It does. It flies over your shoulder and no, to
Speaker 1: the side of the camp hang us. So it's very small.
Speaker 1: I think the skeptical version of me will say that
Speaker 1: maybe it's like a little hair, Maybe it's like a
Speaker 1: little Ostrich feather that fell off of some drag queen's
Speaker 1: costume hitting the lights, you know, stage lights. But I
Speaker 1: also would rather believe it's.
Speaker 3: A ghost, what size or ghosts?
Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing. It could be the ghost
Speaker 1: of old hair.
Speaker 3: It's what it feels, or like kind of it feels.
Speaker 3: There's a certain like battiness to it. It feels very
Speaker 3: bat like. Oh and it's like shape and movement, not
Speaker 3: that it has to flap its wings.
Speaker 1: Who's to say there can't be bat ghosts, which might
Speaker 1: be like the most halloween gothic thing ever you could
Speaker 1: be as a bat ghost. But you know, it's interesting
Speaker 1: that as we see it up close, it's not that big. No,
Speaker 1: So I wonder where it's starting from. Can we go
Speaker 1: to the very beginning, like where let's try to figure
Speaker 1: out where it comes from? See it just like kind of.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing it kind of come over the back of
Speaker 3: the shoulder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it feels like it's almost like it manifests
Speaker 1: out of the air. I think it's one of your hairs.
Speaker 3: What but why would my hair suddenly break free while
Speaker 3: I'm not touching it and then move in this pattern.
Speaker 3: Here's what I'll also say, I for some reason, I
Speaker 3: never focus on the fact that it passes in front
Speaker 3: of me, Like I see now that that's what happens.
Speaker 3: But in my mind because I hadn't picked up on that,
Speaker 3: it's kind of huge, right, like or like it's much bigger,
Speaker 3: right because it feels like it's behind. The depth is
Speaker 3: so much. Yeah, And I feel so shocked to find
Speaker 3: out that this is a tiny ghost.
Speaker 1: It's a little tiny thing.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. How originally I was like, there's a
Speaker 1: giant like Casper the friendly goes flying around behind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does have a very like whoo, yeah with
Speaker 3: the hands, you know, it feels like that.
Speaker 1: But here's what I'll say, Dynacey typewriter. By the way,
Speaker 1: if we're going to go with it being haunted, because
Speaker 1: it's a theater, the vibes are great in that building.
Speaker 1: It is always good. It's not a spooky place. Don't
Speaker 1: avoid it because you think it's spooky.
Speaker 3: No, That's why I said creaky, you know, and creaky
Speaker 3: can really work. Oh, that can feel gritty. It's in
Speaker 3: the mid yeah, for art and entertainment.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I do know that some employees have reported
Speaker 1: some some weird phenomena. What what, I don't remember exactly,
Speaker 1: but I have talked to them before, especially since seeing
Speaker 1: this clip, being like I need to come in here
Speaker 1: and investigate, and they're like, yeah, there's some people that
Speaker 1: work here that think it's haunted.
Speaker 3: So what do you make of that? Ros do you
Speaker 3: really think it's a hair?
Speaker 1: I personally cannot debunk this. I don't think that I
Speaker 1: have enough evidence to debunk it, so I'm going to
Speaker 1: leave it open ended. I personally want to believe it's
Speaker 1: a ghost.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You've seen ghosts, right, You've had encounters.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember the ones I've seen, Like, did
Speaker 1: they have Oh, yeah, I saw one that I believe
Speaker 1: was undeniable. But they can look like so many different things.
Speaker 3: That's the thing I was going to ask if they
Speaker 3: have a more traditional form.
Speaker 1: There's really no rules, got it? Okay, That's why I
Speaker 1: like this stuff because there's no there's anybody that says
Speaker 1: this is how it is, this is what they do,
Speaker 1: that's what they look like. They don't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. Well, you know, a lot has happened
Speaker 3: in the last bunch of years, and I forgot that
Speaker 3: a ghost of my own hair had floated past.
Speaker 1: And it's a hair.
Speaker 3: No, I don't I think that. If I had to guess,
Speaker 3: I think number one. You know, it's an old theater.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's something there. But also like it could be
Speaker 3: a technology issue. We were just figuring out how to
Speaker 3: use a sort of a live streaming version of life, so.
Speaker 4: It could be that.
Speaker 3: But I will also it's just as likely to me
Speaker 3: that that is some sort of a creature that makes
Speaker 3: no sense. The movement there doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3: Why does it go up like that?
Speaker 1: I could see it doing that because it's a lightweight
Speaker 1: thing that's just sort of let me rip out a
Speaker 1: hair real quick. We can see particularly with all those
Speaker 1: lights hitting something. Okay, I don't want to take the fun.
Speaker 3: I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's a ghost. Okay, I need a gavel.
Speaker 1: We have to get a gavel. I need to that's
Speaker 1: a ghost.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I thought I could make a
Speaker 3: gavel noise with my mouth. I know it's incorrect.
Speaker 1: I have another thing for you. This one does not
Speaker 1: involve you.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm open to things that don't involve so
Speaker 3: my favorite.
Speaker 1: But sure, it does involve two women that went hiking together.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 1: Ah, these two women? Listen, it's set up my business.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there are a couple. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they are, but they're they're two very outdoorsy
Speaker 1: ladies that went on hike together and they took a
Speaker 1: picture and what they captured is some kind of creature.
Speaker 1: This actually just happened. This was posted on the Daily
Speaker 1: Daily Mail.
Speaker 3: Reputable, very good, reputable.
Speaker 1: Yes, and the kind of sores that reports the only
Speaker 1: kind of news I care about.
Speaker 3: To get their ear to the ground. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If there's a haunted doll cause and havoc, the
Speaker 1: Daily Mail will have it. Yeah, which I appreciate. I
Speaker 1: suppose if you want to see this, go to the
Speaker 1: description of this episode will put the link to the article,
Speaker 1: and then that way you can just click on it
Speaker 1: and see what we're talking about. Okay, this is a
Speaker 1: In their words, Denver based duo Jesse and Camille on
Speaker 1: August twenty fourth of twenty twenty four, they believe they
Speaker 1: got a picture of Based on the depth of things,
Speaker 1: it would be about a twenty feet tall I don't know, naked,
Speaker 1: skinny humanoid person. That's an unedited photo allegedly.
Speaker 3: Is it word for this cryptides kind of Yeah. I
Speaker 3: feel like one thing that I like about a picture
Speaker 3: of something in that category is that they're never that
Speaker 3: close to something you'd actually see, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. It's not like a guy but a little weird.
Speaker 3: It's like he's naked, twenty feet tall and a little weird,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying? Like Bigfoot isn't doesn't just
Speaker 3: feel part of our world. It feels very other, do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? But that's how this looks
Speaker 3: to me. Like if this is a creature that exists
Speaker 3: that looks like that and is twenty feet tall, A
Speaker 3: lot of other things have to be different about the
Speaker 3: world than what you and I think.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know is what this thing is? I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. But they caught this photo
Speaker 1: in Colorado. This is who took the photo. This is
Speaker 1: the two.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, well, you know what I will say.
Speaker 3: The thing about Colorado is that all the women look queer,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And a lot of them are.
Speaker 3: That's statistic I invented, but they all look like they're queer.
Speaker 1: It's a very very most places, honestly, where all the
Speaker 1: women look like they're queer. That's how I became what
Speaker 1: I am. Attracted. Two men can't take off crocs and
Speaker 1: will fight at any moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. Have you ever had an encounter with like
Speaker 3: a this kind of a creature, like a big en cryptid?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a twenty foot tall naked man in the woods?
Speaker 1: Maybe we do that, I mean that for sure.
Speaker 3: But like, besides ghost, this is also a category of
Speaker 3: belief for you.
Speaker 1: You know, it's part of the paranormal conversation. It is
Speaker 1: one that I have a hard time with a lot
Speaker 1: of the time. Uh, these two, I mean it's something
Speaker 1: like this where you're like, I don't know why you
Speaker 1: would fake this now now the one is a graphic designer,
Speaker 1: which kind of makes me like, okay, you could do
Speaker 1: cool things with photos. I did find them both on Instagram.
Speaker 1: They are not following you or me literally what I checked,
Speaker 1: But I don't see. They're very outdoorsy, lots of this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, got it, But I don't see why
Speaker 1: they would fake it. So if that's real, then, oh
Speaker 1: my god.
Speaker 3: To me, I feel like those photos are maybe not faked,
Speaker 3: but like it's it's a bit of a hair in
Speaker 3: the wind situation. They've caught something that isn't really what's
Speaker 3: going on the.
Speaker 1: Hair in the theater.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, but you know what
Speaker 3: I do believe, and it's in this category, but it's
Speaker 3: just a little different. Are things that live in the
Speaker 3: sea that like on land. I feel like we have
Speaker 3: probably solved a lot of that. But in the sea,
Speaker 3: for sure, dinos and stuff, and up in the sky.
Speaker 3: Up in the sky, you mean, on the other side
Speaker 3: of the atmosphere, like in the universe.
Speaker 1: Way out there? What is that There's almost.
Speaker 3: No differentiation between way out there and way under the sea.
Speaker 3: That's the same place, I'm sure it's gotta be for sure.
Speaker 1: But do you think we know everything that's on this
Speaker 1: planet terrestrial? Yes? But here's okay to go back to
Speaker 1: your question when you ask me what I think of
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, I think that if it exists,
Speaker 1: it's the kind of thing that is magical and mystical
Speaker 1: and sometimes can appear and sometimes can disappear.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that helps, because I think that's my one
Speaker 3: of my biggest I think it's more an omnipresent, undiscovered
Speaker 3: creature zone. And that's why I think that the water
Speaker 3: is full of those right totally, which isn't really I
Speaker 3: guess a monster who knows what.
Speaker 1: They can do, who knows like, we don't know anything, No,
Speaker 1: we don't know anything. Oh it's fun.
Speaker 3: Tallest man you've ever seen?
Speaker 1: Do you have an answer?
Speaker 3: It doesn't be like probably in the sevens, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so they're still quite a differential.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. I forgot about the fact that this
Speaker 1: guy is twenty feet tall. Yeah, that's it's a pretty
Speaker 1: tall guy.
Speaker 3: He's a pretty big dude.
Speaker 1: He's also naked, No wonder he doesn't many clothes. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: where's he gonna show that stuff? Where you're gonna get
Speaker 1: clothes from you can't do it if you're twenty feet tall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that does make sense that he's naked.
Speaker 3: But why is he so pale if he's that tall?
Speaker 3: Isn't he sometimes above the tree line? How taller trees?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. These are some questions I have
Speaker 3: for Camille and the other one.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I think this guy has it right. Just get naked,
Speaker 1: go out in the mountains.
Speaker 3: The darkness of the mountains, in the forest. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not In the Daily Mail piece, is it set up
Speaker 3: where they're like they were just taking a picture of
Speaker 3: each other and then in the background they saw this
Speaker 3: or did they think they saw something and then take
Speaker 3: a picture of it.
Speaker 1: No, they took a picture of it. They were showing
Speaker 1: people the photos, and since the one is a graphic designer,
Speaker 1: she has a plasma screen TV that they were like
Speaker 1: looking on. And then I believe they zoomed in after
Speaker 1: noticing an odd white coloration on the side of the crag.
Speaker 1: Camille's dad said, what the hell? That thing is at
Speaker 1: least twenty feet or so, and Camille was like, should
Speaker 1: we call the rangers?
Speaker 4: Oh? My God, I love this recreation.
Speaker 1: We were all like, what the hell is that it
Speaker 1: should be? Or no, it could be a rock, the
Speaker 1: other one said, But it has all the features of
Speaker 1: something that is human. We are open to interpretations, said
Speaker 1: the one, adding that they posted the pictures on the
Speaker 1: Facebook group for Colorado hikers and dozens of commenters were
Speaker 1: disturbed by this phenomenon.
Speaker 3: Ah, that's how you know people are from Colorado. Because
Speaker 3: the dad was like, that thing's got to be at
Speaker 3: least twenty foot tall. Just knew the height of things
Speaker 3: in the back round, any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I couldn't if you show me a picture, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be able to guesstimate. No, the height in the deep background.
Speaker 1: It was so far away. It couldn't really do anything
Speaker 1: to us. I like to think it was an alien.
Speaker 1: The anatomy is so human, like it's freaky as how.
Speaker 3: Wait can I see that again? I want to I'm
Speaker 3: curious about the alien of it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely an alien that they forgot right. They
Speaker 1: came down and left one and they basically did home
Speaker 1: alone with this alien. I think the family left in
Speaker 1: a mountain in Colorado.
Speaker 3: And it seemed to have like a curvature in the
Speaker 3: spine right, like I'm looking at.
Speaker 1: This, can't they're like the feet or the back? Oh?
Speaker 3: Like it could be the front and it's like raising
Speaker 3: its leg to step forward. Maybe I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 3: do you want to know my dad's theory about aliens? Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: this is my dad's theory about aliens. When he was
Speaker 3: growing up, the tail lights on cars they were square
Speaker 3: or rectangular, and over time car tail lights have become
Speaker 3: much more like oval and he believes that aliens are here.
Speaker 3: They're undergrounds. This is why they have such big eyes.
Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of light because they're underground,
Speaker 3: and they infiltrated the car industry to change the shape
Speaker 3: of tail lights. Because we are relaxed in our cars,
Speaker 3: and as we drive and the tail lights go off
Speaker 3: at night, we're being gently. We are gently acclimatizing to
Speaker 3: the idea of what the alien's eyes are shaped like.
Speaker 1: Is he the type that has a lot of these
Speaker 1: kinds of theories and stuff. No, okay, No.
Speaker 3: He's a very logical guy. He's not usually going on
Speaker 3: a deep dive. This is his one pretty specific theory
Speaker 3: that he has developed. Himself. He didn't read this somewhere,
Speaker 3: but he'll talk to you about it if you you know,
Speaker 3: if you ever want me to touch I'm opening. He's
Speaker 3: got a lot to say.
Speaker 1: I find that fascinating. Why not. Yeah, it's a good
Speaker 1: idea until we know for sure, you know, it could
Speaker 1: be any of these things.
Speaker 3: I mean, if they did do that, it's what.
Speaker 1: Do you think of aliens?
Speaker 3: Well, aliens are my like, I don't like ghosts, not
Speaker 3: into that. I'm super interesting.
Speaker 1: Say, glad I invited you on my podcast Go.
Speaker 3: No, what I mean is I find them scary. Okay,
Speaker 3: I don't want them in my house, but aliens, because
Speaker 3: I think there's two types of people, people who think
Speaker 3: like go are scary and people who think aliens are scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you see what I mean.
Speaker 3: There's a real dividing line.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: And I think ghosts are too scary. Donly ghosts aliens
Speaker 3: into interested would chase you know? Okay, but I listen
Speaker 3: to you talk about ghosts and I'll be scary.
Speaker 1: Is ghosts so scary?
Speaker 3: And honestly could be movies?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: So aliens there's a lot of like really tough bronze
Speaker 3: who have put aliens in their place over time, right,
Speaker 3: I mean Sigourney Weaver, God bless, she saved us all
Speaker 3: multiple times.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In terms of ghosts, the people who are fighting ghosts,
Speaker 3: maybe I don't have a lot in common with Like
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: A priest, you could have been.
Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of like butch women or
Speaker 3: like non binary folks chasing down ghosts. In media, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of like like jacked mask identified people that
Speaker 3: are like holding an alien gun and chasing aliens. But
Speaker 3: maybe that's what it is. Maybe I feel around ghosts defenseless.
Speaker 3: I could punch an alien in the face, but if
Speaker 3: I punch the ghost of Jesus, my hand's gonna go
Speaker 3: right through.
Speaker 1: My latest thing with ghosts because I have been hunting them,
Speaker 1: how's it going. I have always been scared of them too,
Speaker 1: and lately and I still get very scared. And I
Speaker 1: don't follow this rule. But I tell myself, I got skin,
Speaker 1: I got bones, Okay, I got a body, and there
Speaker 1: was some invisible is that you're supposed to scare me?
Speaker 1: And I also like to give them the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt, especially if we go with the theory that
Speaker 1: they were humans, just like us and now they're ghosts.
Speaker 1: Where I'm like, you probably don't know how ghosts work,
Speaker 1: Like you probably know more than me, Like I'm talking
Speaker 1: to a ghost. You probably know more about the experience
Speaker 1: of being ghost than me. I'll get be that. However,
Speaker 1: do you know what will happen if I like this
Speaker 1: concoction right here that I say gets rid of ghosts?
Speaker 1: Do you know? Because I can tell you right now,
Speaker 1: it'll make you disappear like they don't see. I like
Speaker 1: that I threatened ghosts. I'm just gonna say I threaten
Speaker 1: them a lot if they started scaring me where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I will make you leave.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you some questions about this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How what do you think is the process from human
Speaker 3: to ghost? Do you think? I guess what I'm saying
Speaker 3: is like, do you think it's something where you die
Speaker 3: you know you're going to become a ghost, or do
Speaker 3: you think it's just you are suddenly a ghost, Like
Speaker 3: you're not even aware of your death, You're suddenly a ghost.
Speaker 1: Yeah? I know. Unfortunately I don't think we know. But
Speaker 1: it seems that there's a lot of reasons why people
Speaker 1: become ghosts. I think that when you die peacefully, and
Speaker 1: you've accepted that you're dying, you have more free will
Speaker 1: of what happens to you in the afterlife. Like I
Speaker 1: think that you're able to you come back and say
Speaker 1: hi to your loved ones if you want to, or
Speaker 1: just be peaceful and never bother anyone again. But I
Speaker 1: think when it's like bam, you're dad, or like you
Speaker 1: died and you still never got over that audition you
Speaker 1: didn't book or whatever it is, then you're still stuck
Speaker 1: around and you don't have a choice.
Speaker 3: You're talking about kind of an unfinished business situation, of course. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe that's our biggest fear as humans, not like death per.
Speaker 1: Se, but what happens next?
Speaker 3: Well, what happens next? And also like what if I'm nothing?
Speaker 3: Right because on this unfinished business kind of means your
Speaker 3: life didn't come to what you hope it would have
Speaker 3: come to, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like all I ever wanted was
Speaker 1: to float around a comedy class, so I never got
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 3: Do you remember the what is this called? Maybe you've
Speaker 3: talked about this before in like the Victorian era, Yeah,
Speaker 3: when women were really bored and maybe some men.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think of it as I've seen it depicted with
Speaker 3: women and.
Speaker 1: There probably some gay guys there, yeah, sure.
Speaker 4: And they would have like salons where there was somebody
Speaker 4: who could like in quotes, communicate with hell yeah, with
Speaker 4: you know, the other side, and then they would like
Speaker 4: do a trick of lighting and a curtain and convinced
Speaker 4: the room that like somebody had entered the room. But
Speaker 4: it was like an actual racket where it would be
Speaker 4: like their friend.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they had all kinds of tricks, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it was staged. It gave
Speaker 1: those people a lot of hope though at that time.
Speaker 1: But and who's to say that. Maybe they started, you know,
Speaker 1: they start with the Shenanigans and then it turns real.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but okay, wait, don't you know Tipper,
Speaker 1: Tipper Newton, Yeah, I do know Tipper, my really close friend.
Speaker 1: The two of us one time went to like a
Speaker 1: recreation of like a Victorian seance.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, and this man was he was.
Speaker 1: He told us off the bat, like this is like
Speaker 1: how they would do this, and like I'm not going
Speaker 1: to tell you how I'm doing these tricks or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's like, and who knows, maybe there could be some
Speaker 1: real stuff. This guy is making bells like go off
Speaker 1: on the table around us, and we're like that one
Speaker 1: had to be real, Like we're kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: I think I know how he did that one. But
Speaker 1: then there were somewhere it was like how we could
Speaker 1: see we're looking at his hands. How did he do that?
Speaker 1: So we came to the conclusion that he must have
Speaker 1: had some kind of button in his butt cheeks and
Speaker 1: that's the only way he could have done it, unless
Speaker 1: maybe his feet.
Speaker 3: But what was the setting?
Speaker 1: It was at a place that was allegedly haunted.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, spiritualism, that's what this is called totally yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so heyere is that a place that was allegedly haunted?
Speaker 3: Was it like in a closed room like we're like,
Speaker 3: we're and were you like sitting around a circular table?
Speaker 3: I'm imagining the stuff that. Okay, how many people were there?
Speaker 1: M less than ten? Between five and ten?
Speaker 3: Maybe was it like dimly lip?
Speaker 1: Yes, it was the full Shenan again, Okay, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he had something in his toes, maybe
Speaker 1: he had it on a timer, Maybe he had somebody
Speaker 1: in a car that was like doing that. We don't know,
Speaker 1: but it was good.
Speaker 3: Wow. I mean it's you know, I have some friends
Speaker 3: that were like magicians, and I feel like.
Speaker 1: He, yeah, like he, I think that was part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I always think a magician doing that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: Especially if you're from a time when you didn't have
Speaker 1: TV and you weren't your brain wasn't polluted by everything
Speaker 1: and CGI and whatever. You would be like, how the
Speaker 1: fuck is he making that lady flow? That is the devil?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of can I show you a haunted doll?
Speaker 3: You can? It's gonna be a picture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a picture. It's time for the dolls are living.
Speaker 1: So we have a segment on the show where I
Speaker 1: go to eBay dot com I type in the words
Speaker 1: haunted doll, and pretty much every week we feature the
Speaker 1: haunted doll of the week. This time for fifteen dollars,
Speaker 1: we have Terra Geeha show us Tara please you got
Speaker 1: it ros. This is Terra, also known as the ras
Speaker 1: Hernandez official merch dolls. She has my hairstyle. She's got
Speaker 1: like a dark brown black colored hair with bangs, a
Speaker 1: little bit mushroomy on the top. I will say, yeah, actually,
Speaker 1: it's like kind of ats go on the top. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is meets mine. I will say I draw my
Speaker 1: top lip bigger than hers. But uh here she is
Speaker 1: pearl necklace and all. She is going for fifteen dollars,
Speaker 1: which is very reasonable.
Speaker 3: That is reasonable. Adds to the side view of that
Speaker 3: hair is like majestic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's really with that one.
Speaker 3: Ros. This is I think if a haunted dollar is
Speaker 3: different than this, you know, the classic kind of like
Speaker 3: cracked right face and.
Speaker 1: They can maybe a little dirty.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm realizing now with this, that they
Speaker 3: can stick tight. Yeah, I only I know the very baseline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, open your mind.
Speaker 3: This is I'm trying. I mean, this is really well.
Speaker 1: The great thing about these is that they come with
Speaker 1: little biographies. Meet Terra. She is forty four years old.
Speaker 3: She's okay, it's.
Speaker 1: Always a little sad, like whatever. She died of a
Speaker 1: heart attack. She told me it was brought on from
Speaker 1: a broken heart. She is a witch and she is gay.
Speaker 1: She always felt different from everyone when she went through
Speaker 1: high school. She knew she liked women instead of men,
Speaker 1: but never came out because of fear of rejection from
Speaker 1: her religious family. She never was good at making friends
Speaker 1: and was very lonely. After high school, she got a
Speaker 1: job at an animal shelter. She found that she could
Speaker 1: relate to and talk to the animals so much easier
Speaker 1: than people. She worked there for many years and became
Speaker 1: the manager of the shelter in her twenties. She got
Speaker 1: into witchcraft in her late thirties. She met a woman
Speaker 1: and they had an instant bond. They dated for years
Speaker 1: and made good companions for each other. There her girlfriend
Speaker 1: ended up dying. Tara was left with a big hole
Speaker 1: in her heart and an emptiness that nothing could fill.
Speaker 1: She went about her days working at the animal shelter
Speaker 1: and casting her spells, but after her girlfriend passed her
Speaker 1: life was never the same again. She still likes working
Speaker 1: on her arts and or sorry on her witchcraft, not arts.
Speaker 1: She probably likes arts and crabs too. She loves working
Speaker 1: with flowers, herbs, incense, you know, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: She told me that she is more than willing to
Speaker 1: cast spells on your behalf. That's nice. All you need
Speaker 1: to do is ask. She also enjoys baking, sewing, knitting, music,
Speaker 1: and paranormal TV shows. She sometimes flickers our lights. She
Speaker 1: also has opened and shut doors. She has turned our
Speaker 1: TV on and off a few times. I've seen a
Speaker 1: shadow near her. She has communicated so far through making noises,
Speaker 1: through feelings, through pendulums, spirit boards, you know, all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff. She is ready to meet you. Can you
Speaker 1: give her a good home? Cameron fifteen dollars rasum shocked.
Speaker 4: I didn't understand about this.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not keyed into the doll trade, and
Speaker 3: I didn't know this is what's going on.
Speaker 1: I know more than anyone.
Speaker 3: You that's like you read that. That whole paragraph is
Speaker 3: like normal to me, that's just somebody wrote that, yes
Speaker 3: as a description of this item.
Speaker 1: Yes, so I think to go back to what happens
Speaker 1: after we die? Yes, heaven how haunted eBay doll?
Speaker 3: I think what I like about that so much is
Speaker 3: how in contrast to how this doll looks, that story is, well,
Speaker 3: that's the thing that's very appealing.
Speaker 1: A real living person died and this is like a
Speaker 1: hermit crab show.
Speaker 3: Right. Yes, yes, I didn't know that until listening to you.
Speaker 3: Just now that. No, you didn't have to, because I
Speaker 3: as soon as you were talking, I put it together.
Speaker 1: And that is so there's a lesbian witch that lives
Speaker 1: inside of this doll that looks kind of.
Speaker 3: Like do you think it's just like is the is
Speaker 3: the general idea that it's just like closest doll possible,
Speaker 3: Like you just zip into the closest doll.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really don't know how that happens.
Speaker 3: Well, she's she looks very surprised, like the doll does yeah,
Speaker 3: really surprised that lookay, oh.
Speaker 1: Let me see does this look like me? I took
Speaker 1: off my glasses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think.
Speaker 1: I think the thing, I'll there's a lesbian witch inside
Speaker 1: of me too.
Speaker 3: Well, we know that to be the case, nobody is.
Speaker 3: I think that's definitely true. I sensed it immediately when
Speaker 3: we first met. Much like the writer of this here,
Speaker 3: that's also just she's an unusual doll. She's you know,
Speaker 3: very very Uh. I don't. She's as a person completely placeable,
Speaker 3: it's you, but as a doll unusual.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, we have one more thing we need to do.
Speaker 1: We've got to Can I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 3: You have to?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time for EVP or ev plicse. EVP stands
Speaker 1: for Electronic Voice Phenomena it's when people capture a ghost speaking.
Speaker 1: I have two of them for you. I go to
Speaker 1: YouTube dot com. I find people's recordings that they post.
Speaker 1: This one is from ghost Hunter Marsha on YouTube and
Speaker 1: it was recorded at the Dank House German Cultural Center
Speaker 1: in Chicago.
Speaker 3: I've been there.
Speaker 1: Well, so is these ghosts?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: Let's go?
Speaker 1: What does it say? That was a ghost speaker?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 1: Do you have any guesses? Because I would like to
Speaker 1: hear your guests, and then I also have an abc
Speaker 1: D option, one of them being what ghost Hunter Marsha believes.
Speaker 3: Two, it's like an order to.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: It's like shrimp patties please.
Speaker 1: It's like something their order is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it feels like an order.
Speaker 1: That's not what ghost Hunter Marsha thought.
Speaker 3: What is marsh think?
Speaker 1: Did you think it was a a bird chirping outside?
Speaker 1: Not a ghost? No? B, I'm so done with you?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, sweetheart did with you?
Speaker 4: Or D?
Speaker 1: This ain't my living room? Okay, it's one of those.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I think what was C? I think it's C.
Speaker 3: I think she thinks it's C even though.
Speaker 1: This heart did with you.
Speaker 3: No, that's not it. It's it's B it's gotta be
Speaker 3: b is what she thinks. I still think it's you.
Speaker 1: She believes it's sweetheart, did with you?
Speaker 3: I agree with myself. I had to pick me or Marsha,
Speaker 3: I'm the one I think is correct? Are you?
Speaker 1: Marcia? Okay? Same same prison posted this one at Old
Speaker 1: Grant Military Base in uh Illinois. What does this one say?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, that one's so scary.
Speaker 1: That one was definitely shorter.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean that's so it's obvious. Damn. Don't you
Speaker 3: think that's so obvious? Damn?
Speaker 1: Right Martia?
Speaker 3: What he adele?
Speaker 1: Maybe they were like, what should I do in Vegas?
Speaker 1: D B, I'm dead.
Speaker 3: That's a little on the nose.
Speaker 1: I did it? Oh? Or d adopt don't shop?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wish it was that one. Okay, hang on,
Speaker 3: let's hear more time. Oh I did it.
Speaker 1: She thinks it's I'm dad.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, because it does sound like I'm dead.
Speaker 3: That is so scary, Rose, How could you do that
Speaker 3: to me at the end if you had set this
Speaker 3: up at the beginning.
Speaker 1: I want you to think about me.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be thinking. I mean, I have goose,
Speaker 3: I feel funny in my body. I don't feel good
Speaker 3: in my body. Having heard that, he is saying, I'm dead. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, cooky, scary guy.
Speaker 1: I'm going to check in with you later because tonight
Speaker 1: we are doing a show together. Ye, so I will.
Speaker 1: I'll see you later, and I want to make sure
Speaker 1: everything's okay. Of all places we know it's haunted too much.
Speaker 1: This has been great.
Speaker 3: It's been great. I hope that you know that was
Speaker 3: what you were wanting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm very pleased. I'm very happy that you did this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really happy. I was here and I got
Speaker 3: my new catchphrase. Damn that's damn. Do that later tonight.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and all that?
Speaker 3: Oh, he's doing stand up stand up comedy all over
Speaker 3: the place, Nashville, Portland, San Francisco, Chicago. I'm naming it DC,
Speaker 3: US other places, but Cameronessposito dot com or like, just
Speaker 3: go to any socials of mine. They're easy to find.
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this.
Speaker 4: Thanks for the best.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to camoness Posito. We are in October.
Speaker 1: Please tell everyone you know about this podcast. This is
Speaker 1: my month to shine. I just want everyone in the
Speaker 1: in the world to listen to these conversations we have
Speaker 1: because they're so fun and deep sometimes as well. I
Speaker 1: love you all, both living and dead. But if I
Speaker 1: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me came by.
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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by
Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen Executive produced
Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spookky Georgia Hard Start,
Speaker 1: and the Frightening Daniel Cramer