WEBVTT - Ep 101: Arlo Parks 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.760 I'm like nineteen years old. 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.720 I can't make I can't make to pimp Butterfalo my 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:06.440 first album. 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:11.840 You know, Hello, Welcome to Loud and Quiet's Midnight Chats 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.160 or Midnight Chats by Loud and Quiet Magazine, whichever way 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.079 you like it. This is episode one hundred and one 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.880 with tonight's guest Arlo Parks, who you may or may 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:25.000 not know. She is a new artist. Her debut album 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:28.080 is coming out in January. It's called Collapsed in Sunbeams. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:32.440 It's coming out on Transgressive Records, and it's just gonna work. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.040 It's just gonna be one of those records that next 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.360 year just lands and does really well. I certainly hope 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.879 that's the case, but I'm quite confident that it will be. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.959 We start off our conversation actually talking about why we 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.879 had to reschedule this podcast. We were going to meet 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.080 up and then she had to go to Rome and 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.480 I asked her why she was in Rome, and you'll 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:00.760 find out why at the beginning of the podcast. It's impressive. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:02.640 I don't know what else I can tell you about 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.760 Arlo Parks. I mean, she grew up in West London. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.680 She's still only nineteen years old. She made her album 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:14.199 during Lockdown earlier this year in a rented Airbnb, pretty 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:18.640 much putting the whole record together herself. And her first 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.640 love is poetry, you know, lyrics are her things. She's 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.160 got a great talent in writing lyrics, so it made 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.080 sense that she would then become a musician. And she 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:34.120 also loves horror films and Radiohead and all sorts of 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:38.520 music like everything. Essentially, she just loves music. All of 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.240 that will come out in this podcast. And that's about 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.440 it from me. Thank you for listening to this episode. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.840 I hope you enjoy it. If you enjoy it enough 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.640 to sling us some money. There's a link in the 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.000 description of this podcast, as well as some links to 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.280 some of the things that we talk about. Thank you 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.360 for listening to Midnight Chats. This one is with Arlow Parks. 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.280 I was shooting this, uh kind of. It's a collection 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.720 of short films for for Gucci basically, and it was 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.800 directed by Gus Vansant. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.200 Yeah it was. It was pretty crazy. It was. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.400 So this is like because the first one. 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.640 You directed the first yeah yeah, yeah yeah. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.639 So this is a series called the Absolute Beginner. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.919 Series, right, yeah, So I mean the so The absolute 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.960 beginner series was the one that I did by myself, 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:33.160 and that was just getting like artists and actors to 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.440 kind of get behind the camera and honestly just make 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.240 a film about whatever they wanted. And I was always 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.239 super inspired by like Where's Anderson, you know, Grand Bede, Pest, 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.360 Hotel ten and Bounds, and I wanted obviously, poetry is 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.600 like my first love, so I wanted to combine that 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.040 in some way and get all these kind of KOOKI 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.239 margate characters and get the sea. I always wanted to 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:54.959 shoot by the sea. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.280 So yeah, it was amazing. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.880 It was Is it called folded gold not gold, not gold, 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.760 notted gold. It's great. It's it's got that great opening 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.160 shot of you on the balcon is it the war pole, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.640 the woletel and there's the people playing bowls. Yeah, it 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.320 has got a real way Anderson. Yeah. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.120 I wanted it to feel, you know, with those very 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.000 like specific color schemes like in Morelli's with the pinks 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.080 and the reds, and I wanted it to feel yeah, 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.320 a little bit surreal. But I also wanted to involve 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.440 like the people who just lived in market, like the 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.680 Bulls team, which is such legends like they just they 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.919 were just so down to just like play their bowls 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:31.600 and be the intro. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:32.440 It's really cool. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.120 And it ends with you chucking a Gucci bag in 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.400 the sea. Did you actually chuck it in the sea? 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.240 Is there someone down there catching that bag? 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.680 It was it was another bag, was it? 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.720 Because you know, we wouldn't be chucking one thousand pounds 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.280 worth of Gucci material. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.560 And I was going to say that is decadent. That 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.360 would be very decadent to do that. And it ends 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.960 that video. I'll put a link to this in the 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.120 description this podcast. It ends with the bag kind of 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.360 floating out. There's a hand coming out of the sea. Yeah, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.680 So who was that unfortunate person who was under. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.520 The ways Tom Dream who co directed the film with me. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.200 That was his girlfriend and she just put a wet 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.120 suit on. It was it was cold, she just. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:13.600 Got in there. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.240 I really commended her bravery because I was shivering and 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.120 I was not even in the water. But yeah, she 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.760 had to fully duck underneath with wet suit and hold 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:22.159 it up. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.920 It's a great final shot. Yeah. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.839 I wanted it to be like a message because you know, 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.599 there's a there's a period, there's a point where I 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.960 like scribble something down, put it in the bag and 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.800 like almost like you know, a message in the bottle, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.520 like putting it at sea. But yeah, that was that 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.520 was It was like my first experience doing anything like that, 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:40.679 and it was a lot of fun. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.400 So this new one you were doing in Rome, is 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.680 that like a follow up to this to this one? 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.479 No, it's actually a different thing. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.120 Yeah, it's it's a way for like the new collection 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.440 to be showcased in a way that's kind of a 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:58.240 little bit left of center. So it's basically seven episodes. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.279 There's like a cameo in each one. So there was Me, Harry, 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:05.480 Stars Elish and a few other people just kind of 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:11.560 thrown in into the into the narrative. And my episode 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.479 is in this cafe and it's kind of inspired by 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.360 Andy Warhol's Naked Lunch and like and yeah, Gus founds 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.719 Out was directing it and Chrystil was the dop He's 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.279 done a lot of the Wan films, which was amazing. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.440 I would say star struck. I was like, because I 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:29.320 had to act. I was like. 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.720 Acting, so you got lines in it? 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:32.760 No, I didn't. That's the thing. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.799 I had to improvise. I had to improvise my lines, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.200 which is the hard bit, because you know, I had to. 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.520 So Sylvia was the character that I was playing opposite, 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.960 and I would speak in English and she would speak 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.440 in Italian, but we had to pretend as if it 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.520 was like a normal conversation. Obviously I didn't understand what 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.200 she was saying, but I had to be like. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:58.440 Ha ha ha, like yeah, great, do you do Do 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.760 you feel like you nailed it? Did you get did 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.960 you get to see any of it back? Okay, sure 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.680 it's not I'm sure it's good. And what does it? 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:09.279 What was gus Fan sound like? 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:16.640 He was a very kind of quiet, sensitive, confident presence, 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.160 Like he was quite subdued, but he knew exactly what 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.200 he wanted. And Chris was more kind of like explosive, 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.800 like he taught me how to play pinball and we 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:27.719 were just like laughing the whole time. So it was 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.880 amazing to have those two like quite juxtaposed presences, but 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.640 both like icons of cinema. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.800 Yeah, have you done any acting before at all, like 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:36.880 at school or anything. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.960 I did like a few bits at school, not really, 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.240 but you know, in some of my videos, like for Eugene, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.720 I was acting alongside this actress and media, and you know, 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.640 obviously we had to pretend to be like to have 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.479 known each other forever, and it's something I really enjoy. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:52.320 I love it. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.560 It's so interesting, like putting on that mask and like 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:55.919 being somebody else for a little bit. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:56.640 I really like it. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.000 Nice. I love that you've just gone straight from zero 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.160 row to gus Van sand Fagucci. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:03.200 Yeah. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.040 In Rome, Yeah, during lockdown? What was the lockdown situation 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:07.360 like that? 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:11.640 It was pretty literally at the day we arrived, everything closed, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.880 So everything I think was closed from like five or 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.680 six for example, So I only I was staying in 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.160 the hotel, so I wasn't allowed to leave. All I 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.640 did was make beats in my hotel room and read 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.960 my book, and so it was literally hotel to set 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.880 to hotel. So I saw the Colisey of like from Afar, 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.040 but didn't really get to see that much of Rome. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.640 Your film had like it, as you said, had like 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.360 a Wes Anderson vibe to But you're also a horror 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:43.160 film fan, right, Yeah, what, okay, let's talk about horror. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.000 I'm kind of the opposite of a horror foror fan. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:47.480 Are you you're not into it, I. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:53.880 Can't, but but tell me about what's your foot when? Okay, 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.000 what horror we talking about? What's your kind of thing? 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:56.920 What's my thing? 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:01.680 Okay, So it kind of depends, right, So I really 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.720 like the kind of hitchcock like Psycho. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:06.280 I love that. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:10.440 We So I like the more kind of stylistic violency ones. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.400 I do like the kind of psychological thrillers as well, 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:20.040 Like I mean I recently watched Hereditary and like you know, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.800 Midsimar and stuff, like they're in a similar kind of vein. 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:24.960 And so I like the ones that are like slightly 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.520 kooky or you know, really old ones where the special 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.960 effects are terrible. I don't like zombie ones. I'm not 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.960 really down for that. I like the science of lambs 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.080 kind of like Cycloa. 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.080 That's where I'm at. So, yeah, I do like something. 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.600 I mean, I've seen, you know, things like Friday the 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.600 thirteenth and all of that. I watched the Human Science People. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.360 It was a terrible mistake and I don't know why 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.640 I didn't add to myself because it was just all 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.960 it was just gross. But I like ones where there's 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.840 like a storyline and you're a little bit on edge 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.840 rather than it's just like someone getting like hacked. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:00.920 Yeah, so you're not. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.959 Well, I've seen it, but I just didn't really vibe 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.120 with it, Like I didn't find it enjoyable. It was 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.200 just a bit like jury, Yeah, you're enjoying it exactly 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:11.960 exactly the eye. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.560 Okay, So yeah, I mean that type of stuff. I 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.400 like the thriller side of things and stuff. Are there 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.000 any of those films that you've watched that have stuck 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:21.439 with you? 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.679 I think the first time I watched Science of the 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:30.160 Lambs definitely, because like Anthony Holk, I was I was 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.959 just very taken aback by how good he wasn't playing 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.440 that role and like you know with the like that 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:36.959 sound he makes when he's talking. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.959 About the beans and stuff. Oh my god. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.520 I think what I really liked, like Psycho. I feel 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.840 like the twist at the end was like I don't know, 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.640 I found it super inventive and like progressive like for 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.920 the time, like I didn't expect that at all. I 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.760 definitely think my favorite films are the ones that just 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.960 like have stuck with me forever and ever. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:03.160 The one that haunts me of recently, He's get Out. Okay, Yeah, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.040 I mean I've not seen us, And part of the 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.400 reason I've not seen us is because get out just 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.080 I was talking to a friend about this other day. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.440 I still think about it every now and then, like 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.800 it's one of those things that are just just the 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:15.480 premise of. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.640 It that's much more horrific then sore or you know, 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.800 I'm with you, because it is that sense of like 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.920 when there is that little grain or kernel of like 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.079 reality or possibility, like the fact that that could actually 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.640 you know, that's what makes it scary, because if it's like, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.560 you know, some kind of supernatural like you know I 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.120 saw like Anna Belle or like those like Chucky and stuff, 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.240 and it's a bit like, you know, that wouldn't happen. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.160 But when things like get Out where there is that 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.760 sense of like of tension, like the tension is established 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.200 so expertly. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:50.280 And yeah, it's so slow the reveal of what's going on. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.839 I know, when he's like crying, oh, it's horrible things. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.559 And the bit where they reveal what's going on where 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.200 he's the picture of him is on the easel and 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.400 the auctioning him and it's just so that like the 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.360 camera he's been taken off for a walk, to cat Oh, 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.439 that moment of realization. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.679 It's yeah, that the premise of that film, that is 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:16.840 an excellent. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.920 Thing, absolutely stuck with me. I mean, when did you 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.200 get into have you always liked the see? 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:23.920 Okay, this is the story. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.040 When I was eight or nine, I saw Coraline and 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.080 it terrified me to the exam that I never watched 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.640 a horror film again until I was like sixteen. That's 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.440 not even a horror film, but I was absolutely terrified 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.559 of I didn't like dolls, I didn't like the buttons 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.480 on the eyes. I was very traumatized. And then when I. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.360 Was sixteen, I watched I can't remember what I think, 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.319 it was like the Shining or something, okay. 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:52.160 And I was like, okay, Like, even though I wasn't 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:57.080 that taken by the Shining controversial opinion, I liked that 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.840 sense of tension. And then I watched things like seven 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.400 and just kind of got into the more like psychological 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.480 side of things. And then I thought, you know, why 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.640 not watch some of the groy ones. I just didn't 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.480 do that much for me. Yeah, what I mean, I 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:08.920 just want it. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.440 Yeah, They're kind of good to laugh at if you 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.559 watch it with a may and you're just like, yeah, laughing, 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.320 how absolutely absurd. 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.240 It exactly exactly, That's. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:21.040 Kind of where that's at. So we're currently in well, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.800 I don't even know what the date is anymore, November. 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.400 We're in November time for anyone listening in the future, 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.720 in November time again, untiwards the end of twenty twenty. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.439 Your album comes out in January. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:31.160 January. 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:36.280 You are currently well and truly in promo mode, right, 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:40.520 You've been super busy, Yeah, but you've actually had I 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.319 was thinking about all the things you've been doing over Lockdown. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.640 I didn't realize that the album, which we have talked 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.160 about in a bit, but you wrote that during Lockdown one. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.200 Yeah, most of it a little bit before and a 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:51.880 little bit after. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:56.040 Sure, But there's loads of things you've done whilst a 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.400 lot of us have been locked in. Really. You played Glastonbury, Yeah, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.640 and obviously there was no Glastonbury this year. For anyone 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.319 who was not worth of this, there was obviously no Glastonbury. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.000 But a few people went and played and they had 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:11.440 like a little bit of coverage and it looked amazing 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.640 on TV because it was you in front of the 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:18.040 Pyramid stage. There were cows there. Yeah, the pyramid was 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.520 just like a skeleton. Look beautiful. It's a lovely day. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.240 It looked weird to see Glastonbury have some grass on 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:27.439 the floor. That was bizarre. How how was the experience 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.559 because you went to Glassenbury the year before to play 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:30.800 when it was in full swing. 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:32.760 Yeah, and that was your first Classton b Yeah, I 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:34.120 mean that was my first festival. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.560 Oh wow, Okay, this is a theme you just go 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:38.839 you're just going straight for. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.480 Straight in the defense. But yeah, that was amazing, especially 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.160 you know, the sun was setting. I was singing black 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.480 Dog was a really important song to me, you know, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.480 on the TV, like my parents were watching from home, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.439 and it felt like it was very surreal. It was 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.960 kind of bittersweet because you know, I remember being Glastonby 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.240 last year and running around and playing all these shows 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.520 and you know, seeing Tim in Parlor live for the 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.480 first time and all of that. But it did like 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.600 the actual ground has so much energy, Like actually being 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:12.240 there just reminded me of like the possibility of festival's 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.840 next year and like how special live music really is. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.240 Sure was there? What was the crew situation? Where's a 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.160 lot of people there? It looked really sparse. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.160 Yeah, there weren't there weren't that many people there, honestly, 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.080 probably like ten or. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.320 So, Wow, that's kind of creepy. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.040 Yeah, it was really. It was eerily quiet as well. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.800 And were there because a few other people playing, hand 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.480 full of like new artists were they were they there 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:37.120 when you were there? 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:37.760 No, they weren't. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.200 There were no it It was literally just me, my 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.440 manager and my guitarist and someone from Transgressive Mic. 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:46.200 So that was. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.080 Yeah, it was nice to like, you know, have a 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.400 little road trip down. But I remember last year, you know, 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.080 we were listening to like Princess Nokia and like shouting 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:54.680 in the van, like so excited. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.240 So it was definitely a big contrast. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.960 So when you went last year first festival, did you 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.920 the whole thing? Did you just stay the whole Yeah? 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.680 I was playing. I played four times. I've no experienced 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.640 anything like it. Yeah, because it's weird, like all these 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.000 different kinds of people just in this kind of bubble 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.480 of music, Like everyone just kind of is in a 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.080 good mood because everyone's in the sun. Especially it was sunny, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.360 thank god, it's almost too hot. But yeah, it just 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.520 kind of ignited my love of festival. It's not my 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.760 love of camping, though definitely not a camping no. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.520 Me neither and gastinories. I've not been the customary for 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.480 a good ten years. But every time I watch it 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.680 religiously on TV. Yeah, and every year, I'm kind of 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.960 thinking I really miss out. I feel I'm really missing out. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:38.920 I always want to be there and I always intend 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.840 to go the following year, and I was going to 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.640 go this year, but obviously it was canceled. How are 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:44.440 you with Fomo? 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:50.520 I feel like at the beginning when everything kind of dissolved, obviously, 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:51.920 I was like, oh, I was. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.240 Supposed to be going here, they're doing this that. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.760 But then I kind of just like, I don't know, 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.200 as we were saying before, like it's amazing what people 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:00.640 can get used to. It was like, oh, well, I 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.640 guess it's not happening, so it might as well just 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:03.800 like write some songs. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.440 Yeah, And it's kind of felt, all right, isn't it 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.680 that we're all at least we're all miserable. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.200 Yeah, to be fair, it's like a collective collective. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.280 It's like, well, I mean I am missing out, but 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.560 so's everyone. You're kind of not missing out in anything 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:17.960 right now. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.040 Yeah, that's true. It's so weird though, how the world 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:22.720 just shifted like in a few months. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.720 Yeah, it's crazy. So you were saying that you rented 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.160 an air b and be kind of close to hear 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.480 down the road in Hoxton to was it to you 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.880 recorded there as well? So you set up a little 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:35.440 studio in there. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.240 Yeah, I mean it wasn't It wasn't much of it 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.040 was literally a mic guitar, bass and like one of 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.200 these little Midi keyboards in a computer and that was literally. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.240 What the whole record was made on. 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:46.800 What that's mad? 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.400 So we made yeah, I would say we made like 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.720 five or six of the songs that during that period 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.120 of time. And then afterwards I made one of the 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.960 tunes in the Church with Paul Upworth and then he 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.080 helped me like develop one of my demos, which is 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.680 another one of the songs, Portry four hundred, and then 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.640 Bad Sounds down in Bristol helped me work on Bluish. 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.280 So yeah, but it was mainly made in apartments, which 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.359 I love. I'm definitely not that much of a studio person. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:14.240 Like I like my. 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:19.040 Comfort and my tea and my windows. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.680 Right, and I suppose there's no pressure right when you're 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.919 in a I mean when I go to if I 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:25.800 ever go to a recording studio to institute some or 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.240 whatever I've been to. I went to pull Up Works 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.040 to do a podcast with him, and it is I 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.480 do get quite. I do get really excited being in 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.320 that room and seeing the big desk. I'm like a 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.720 child in there. But I can imagine there's a pressure 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.439 because there's a time limit. Like you know that this 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.760 is costing money. It's costing someone money definitely, and you're like, 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.480 I need to get some results out of this. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.480 Yeah, you're right. It is so hard. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:54.479 Like when I was writing the album before, like I 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.280 had this definitely this sense of like stress and expectation, 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.600 and like I was just like I need to make 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:01.120 this good. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:02.400 Like there are people like. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.600 Not relying on me, but like you know, I'm signed 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.639 and like all these people working on a project, Like 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.560 I need to make this good. And I think that 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.439 desire to make something because you know, I listened to 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:14.920 out the albums that I love. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:16.879 You know, if you're listening to like in Rainbow, it's 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.239 done me all of this stuff. I was like, oh 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.200 my god, I need to make something like groundbreaking. And 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.240 I was like I'm like nineteen years. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:25.520 Old, like I can't make I can't make to PM 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.320 Butterflo on my first album, you know. And I think 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.359 once I let go of that sense of pressure that 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.159 I was putting on myself, then it just kind of 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:33.399