1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Where are they now? The Houston Texans have played football 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: since two thousand and two. Some were here for a 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: long time, others shorter, but all who suited up for 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: the Texans have a unique journey before, during, and after 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: their stint in Houston. It's time to catch up with 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: a former Texans and find out where are they now? 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: Former Texan David Anderson, wide receiver in the NFL for 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: six years, five and change of those or with the Texans, 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: joins me. Now, where are they now? David? You're in 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: front of You're in front of a blue shed. What's 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: going on? Man? Where are you now? What are you? 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm in elsagun To, California. I live in man Beach, California, 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: not too far from my hometown Thousand Oaks. I run 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: a company called Breakaway Data, which helps athletes collect and 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: utilize their data and performance. So I'm I'm a moneyball 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: dork now, which is great? Um, finished ball? What's to school? 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: And I've been doing this ever since. And I think 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: some people who just maybe don't know you would say, oh, 19 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of a weird transition. For people who 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: have been around you, that's not an odd transition at all, 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: you always had something going on upstairs between your ears. 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: You were always kind of a I don't know, curious player. 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: When you were in the league, you kind of took 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: an interest in a lot of different things and did 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: a lot of different How did you though, segue from 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: the NFL into that? Yeah? So, um, I was always 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: taking advantage of the NFL. We're called BM and E programs, 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: business management, entrepreneur programs at different graduate schools. So I 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: did they want to kell Og, Wharton and Stanford. And 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: then when I finished ball, went back to school. Uh, 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, my mom was a little disappointed, disappointed in 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: me that I picked Colorado, stayed over some better schools. 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: I won't say which ones, um, but uh so I'm 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: back to graduate school. Got my MBA UM focused on 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: data science. My dad was an engineer, UM, so I 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: had that side going on. I was always good at 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: math in high school. I was kind of the dork 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: that was in the math mod competitions and whatnot. I 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: just took a liking to it. And then I think, 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: more than anything I knew, I wanted to be involved 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: in sports. I wanted to be involved in ball. I 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: didn't have enough stones to go back into the coaching 43 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: world and kind of do that whole thing. As much 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: as I admired him, jealous to those guys, that's always 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: something I wasn't willing to do to myself for my family. 46 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: And then I knew I wanted to do some form 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: of media, so I've been I've always dabbled in kind 48 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: of that stuff, but I feel like data gives me 49 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: interesting kind of storytelling aspect of the media. Media play 50 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: instead of just being a pundit and kind of saying 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: my opinion, kind of gives me a little more based 52 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: in my opinion. So I've been doing that for a 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: while and it's been a success and it's been a 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Although you might think every now and 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: then when Danny Am and Doola runs around in eighty 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: nine that that's me. You know. He was a roommate 57 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: of mine back in the day. No, Okay, So that's 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: interesting you bring that up, because my first year working 59 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: for the Texans was two thousand and nine. It was 60 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: one of your best years with the Texans, and before 61 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: you guys played the Rams in Saint Louis, I was 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: down on the field shooting some photos for a pregame 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: photo slide show, and I had come from Lubbock. I'd 64 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: worked there for four years, so I'd covered Danny and 65 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: I covered him in the kind of the pre draft process. 66 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: He was hoping he'd get drafted. I don't know that 67 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: he was necessarily thinking, Hey, I'm definitely but I covered 68 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: it and I covered him, gave him a bro hug, 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: and you were actually warming up and you're like those 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: two guys talking about and you came over and started 71 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: chit chatting with them, and it was kind of cool 72 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: to see, I think, an appreciation because you were sort 73 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: of an undersized receiver. We have a we have a bond, 74 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's like when two deers recognize each other 75 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: in the wild. Um. Uh, we had seen each other. 76 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I I was in year when I met 77 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Danny for uh, it was it was really the lockout 78 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: year twenty eleven. Yeah. Um, Julian Ellman, Danny and myself 79 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: were kind of roommates or living all in the same 80 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: city June roommates. Um. I just saw the work worth, 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: work ethic of those guys, the determination. Um, they were 82 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: all about ball, you know what I mean. I knew 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: they had a chance. You always got to have a 84 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: little bit of luck on your side, and they took 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: advantage of every opportunity to given to them. And more, 86 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: they earned everything that those guys got because they certainly, 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, Danny and Julian. Not to prepare those guys together, 88 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: but Danny has certainly earned everything that's come his way. 89 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: So my hat's off to him. He's had a still 90 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: having a great career. You know, comes in, shows up 91 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: with on Tuesday, scores a touchdown on Sunday. So I'm 92 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: proud of him, sitting happy to say I know him. Yeah, 93 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: it was awesome to see, and I mean it was 94 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: it was not surprising. If you know that guy, it 95 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: was not surprising. It's funny not to make this all 96 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: about Dany mdul because we wouldn't pay about you. But 97 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: my last little add on to it was I was 98 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: talking with him last week and he said, the first 99 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: snap I was in the game, I knew the ball 100 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: was coming to me. And it wasn't a touchdown. It 101 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: was on the first drive and he caught like an 102 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: eight or nine yarder, but he said he knew the 103 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: ball was coming to him just because of what he'd 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: seen in all that that in the background. So I'm 105 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: sure he's got a little bit of the matrix going 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: on in there. He's been an amazing time he sees 107 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: what's going on. Yeah, I mean it happened into every 108 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: athlete at some point in their career. When you've been 109 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: there long enough where um, the speed of your legs 110 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: is fast enough, which where Danny is, and the speed 111 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: of game is slow, So you can take advantage of 112 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: a situation. You just got to hope that those don't 113 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: those don't foot flop. Ever. Yeah, Hey, analytics, that's a 114 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: very wide ranging word. It covers a lot of different things. 115 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: What exactly are you doing analytics wise? What what does 116 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: your company do? Yeah? So, um, our focus is is 117 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: helping the athlete at first better understand and collect their 118 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: own data. Right. I think a simple way to describe 119 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: it as mint dot com for athletes performance data. Right, 120 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: there's Apple health Kit and there's other things that collect 121 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: your data and information. What we do is we help 122 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: an athlete better understand how their off field performance affects 123 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: their on field performance. Right now, Apple health Kit doesn't 124 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: tell you about your yards, your targets, your catching percentage, 125 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. What you value from an athlete perspective. 126 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: So we bring that money ball aspect to to an athlete. 127 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: Right for forever, it's been sold to teams, and they 128 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: certainly take advantage of that situation. And we've helped a 129 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: lot of teams along the way. But now I want 130 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: to kind of pivot and focus to athletes helping them 131 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: better understand and get more use out of their data, 132 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: because I think, when you know, kind of like the 133 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: rising tide raises all ships, if we can increase the 134 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: data literacy and competency of athletes, help them use their 135 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: data for more information, help them with their performance. And 136 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: we've all seen like with GDPR and all this stuff, 137 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: like your data is yours. How can we help an 138 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: athlete get more of it and maximize it? That's our 139 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: whole thesis. That's awesome, man, that's really cool to hear. 140 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Congratulations on the success and best of luck to more 141 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: success down the line. Let's rewind it though, back to 142 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: when you're coming out of Colorado State, highly productive receiver 143 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: for the Rams. You get picked by the Texans. You're 144 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: in one of the best drafts, probably the best draft 145 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: in franchise history. What was that day like when you 146 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: got selected? Did you think Hey, I got a chance 147 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: of going there because of kind of the sort of 148 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: Colorado State mafia that was happening here in Houston at 149 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: the time, or what was that day like for you? 150 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: So I started the mafia, you can call me the 151 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: term soprano of the car Out Saint mafia that was 152 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: at CSU for little or on the Texans for a while, 153 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: you know what. Like you go through the process in 154 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: your mind during the draft day, and now I was 155 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: picked two fifty one, so I had a lot of 156 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: time to think and go through a lot of kind 157 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: of things. I wasn't like Mario picked number one. So 158 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I remember the different coaches talking to me, I remember 159 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: the different teams. I remember the different what agents had 160 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: told me, what my agent had told me, all these 161 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,559 Speaker 1: different things. I'm trying to weigh this as draft picks, 162 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, come and go as guys that I thought 163 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: or knew that I was much better than got picked 164 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: ahead of me. You just I just felt this, you know, 165 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: that chip on your shoulder grow and grow and grow, 166 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: and you know, I was getting more frustrated, and then 167 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: I remembered, So sixth round comes along, and the Denver 168 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Broncos called me and they say, hey, if you don't 169 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: get picked up in the seventh, we're gonna bring you 170 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: on as a free agent. And they had just taking 171 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall and I was like, well, I don't know 172 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: if that's a good fit for me. And then I 173 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: was kind of looking in my agent and I got 174 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: on a phone call and he's like, hey, here's all right, 175 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: I think I three teams are if you don't get 176 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: picked up, they're all offering good deals. Da da da da. 177 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, so um so then the 178 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: phone rings and I thought it was going to be 179 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: an agent and who who was going to be And 180 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: it was coach Kubiak and he's like, hey, this is 181 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: Kobe's You're gonna pick you up here in the seventh round. 182 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: I was like all right, And I remember when I 183 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: finished my forty, like at that time, I like it 184 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: clicked for me. At that time I finished my forty, 185 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: Kobe told me, hey, if you're available light in the draft, 186 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna pick you up. Now. They didn't have a 187 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: sixth round. They'd either didn't have a fifth round pick 188 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: or a sixth round pick. I don't remember which one 189 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: it was because Wally Lundie I think I don't know 190 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: if Wally Willing was fifth or sixth. Um, but we 191 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: went Mario Williams, Damiko, Ryan's, Eric Winston, Chester Pitts, m 192 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: Owen Daniels, Wally Lundie and myself and Chester was Chester 193 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: was as he was a good he was a good boy. 194 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: He was off to a great start and then broke 195 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: his broke his leg. But yeah, um but anyway, so 196 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: like I remember getting picked up and then immediately thinking like, 197 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: all right, here we go, and then the phone hung up. 198 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: And then the next phone call I got was Joe Joe. 199 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: Marcian was like, you're ready to play special teams. You're 200 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: here run out and kick off and cast however, and 201 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I want to catch passes, good touchdowns. 202 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: But of course when you're drafted, you're like, yeah, I'll 203 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: do whatever it needs coach and uh. And you quickly 204 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: learn when you get to the NFL. You know what 205 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think what's crazy is but you get 206 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: drafted at Leasta's how it was back then. The dates 207 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: were a little different. Now you get drafted and then 208 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: like two weeks later your helmets on practicing. Yeah, and 209 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: you quickly realize how little you know about football, right, 210 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: and that like you're in you're with a group of 211 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: grown men who've been doing this for a profession, and 212 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: like you are just following what the script says or whatever, 213 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: and it doesn't look like that once, you know, once 214 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: once the pet the humans are actually running around and 215 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: you're like, well, all the dots on the page are 216 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: the same size, except that guy's six seven, two hundred 217 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: ninety pounds and this guy is like the fastest human 218 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. That his dutmost after 219 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: than mine. So um, you got to find out who 220 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: you are and find your fit pretty quickly, otherwise you'll 221 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: find your way out of the locker room. Yeah, and 222 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot of noble guys, thousands of them over the years, 223 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: have not survived that may, you know, like they're gone 224 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: or that summer. You stuck around in the end, and 225 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: you were an active on the active roster through six years. 226 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: I mean you were there at a time too that 227 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: was very very It was a turning point in franchise 228 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: history because they never won. You get there that first 229 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: year is tough, but then next year or the year after, 230 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: you get to five hundred, which that was a big deal. 231 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Year after that, you guys win the chance and have 232 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: a chance. Yeah, when you walk off the field that day, 233 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: you still are in the playoff hunt, depending on what 234 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: happened later the day that didn't happen, but yeah, you were. 235 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: You were part of a transition there, Texans wise. What 236 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: was that like seeing them kind of turn a little 237 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: bit of a corner so to speak. You know what 238 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: it was? Looking back at it, it's uh hindsight, you know, 239 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: you wish you had a little more of that when 240 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: you're when you're playing in and whatnot. Like, I don't 241 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: think any of us knew we were part of that, 242 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: right You train nearing your oute and you think you 243 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: got a chance. Um, you put better players on your 244 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: team and you fee you're like, you know, this might 245 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: be another winner too, but you know everyone does that, 246 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: so um, you quickly realize when you step out there 247 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: that every Sunday it's it's gonna be tough. I think 248 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: what really was really hard for us was to win 249 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: those really close games. When you follow the NFL, and 250 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who it is, you either consistently win 251 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: or consistently lose those games that come down to a 252 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: field goal in the fourth quarter or possession here or there. 253 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: And for a while, we couldn't get over that hump. 254 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: And we got over to enough to be eight in eight, 255 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: nine to seven, I think, you know, like you mentioned, 256 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: I think we went eight and eight like two two 257 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: of those years, M, but we weren't getting over that 258 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: hump of of of winning those really close games consistently. 259 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: You look at the elite teams when you roll off, 260 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, six seven, eight wins in a row, they're 261 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: they're winning three of those games, why a touchdown or less, 262 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: and it's probably coming down to the last drive. Yeah, 263 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: And so I think we it took us a while 264 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: to get over that M and figure that out and 265 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: just how meaningful every possession is in the NFL, UM. 266 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: And you know, that took some maturity, and it took 267 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: it took the guys in the locker room growing up 268 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: and growing up with each other and realizing that the 269 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: guy next year has been through this situation. UM, And 270 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: that was just something it took us a while to do. 271 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: I also didn't realize how knew the Texans were until 272 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: I came back to California my first and second year, 273 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, like even my second year in the NFL, 274 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: which would have been two thousand and eight, and the 275 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Texans would ring around for six years at that point. 276 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: I'd tell, you know, friends or whatever. I'd be at 277 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: a restaurant to be like, what team do you play for? 278 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: I be like, oh, the Texans and they'd be like, oh, yeah, 279 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: you guys beat USC and the Rose Bowl. I'm like, no, 280 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: that's University of Texas and then like and they'd be like, 281 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: because you're a real NFL team, I'd be like, oh, wow, 282 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: like we have you know. I mean, it's different when 283 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I go to play for the Steelers 284 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: and the teams have this tradition for you know, fifty 285 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: sixty years. Um, the te Sins are getting there, you 286 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean, But they're no longer a team 287 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: that people don't know of a recognize. But we were. 288 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: We were, You're right going through that kind of like team. 289 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: You're almost like it wasn't team because we're around that 290 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: long yet. But it is those teenager years where you're 291 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: trying to find your identity who as an organization. Hey, 292 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: at a personal level, you just discussed how you get 293 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: out there for the first time, and you're you've kind 294 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: of got wide eyes. When did you think, hey, I 295 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: belonged here or I can hang there? Did you ever 296 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: not think that? What was that like for you? Was 297 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: there a moment that made that happen? I tell you 298 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: I was confused my second year. I got cut my 299 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: second year. I thought I thought I knew my second year, 300 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: and I got cut and then I immediately got brought 301 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: back that second year, and so that's when that set 302 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: me back about a year. Even my third year, in 303 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: training camp, I was announced as the third receiver and 304 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: that I was going to be taking all the slot roles. 305 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: It felt like it was something that I was constantly 306 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: fighting to hold on too. And I think that, um, 307 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: that just reminded me how tough it was to stay 308 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I can't say only in games 309 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: did I feel comfortable, right Like, I felt like every practice, 310 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: every every training camp, I was fighting for a spot. 311 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: And I don't think that that's not everyone, you know 312 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: what I mean. That's but that is for about forty 313 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: three of the fifty three guys on a roster, right 314 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: everyone's you know, there's about ten, maybe fifteen guys that 315 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: are confident enough that even if they have a decent 316 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: training camp they're going to be starting. That was never 317 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: an option for me. I had to have a lights 318 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: out training camp. I had to be there every day. 319 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: I had to show up at practice and perform. And 320 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: I think that's something that has definitely helped me out 321 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: as I transition out of sports because I didn't have 322 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: to be like that at Colorado of State. I certainly 323 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: didn't have to be like that at high school. I 324 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: could not practice four out of five days in high 325 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: school and show up and have four touchdowns same probably 326 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: a Colorado of State. But that wasn't That wasn't who 327 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: I was in the NFL. I wasn't Andre Johnson who 328 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: could take, you know, Wednesday Thursday off practice, go through 329 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: the walkthrough, and then still come out and have an 330 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: amazing catch against the Dolphins and beat them in overtime 331 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: or something like that. So U kind of like what 332 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned, you quickly learned who you are in the NFL, 333 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: and that wasn't who I was. I did get comfortable 334 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: in games I can't remember like a kind of like 335 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: like I was mentioned about Amendola Matrix moment against the 336 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: Seahawks that in two thousand and nine year where I 337 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: had a choice route. I knew he was inside leverage, 338 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: but he would fall for the outside move. Matt and 339 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: I and Matt show when I were on the same page. 340 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I was patient he fell for the move Boom got inside, 341 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: had like a nice thirty five yard game and I 342 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: was like, ah, there it is and I kind of 343 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: felt my felt my feet get under me a little bit. 344 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: So it happens. But it certainly wasn't like, you know, 345 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: not never got to Tom Brady status where it's just 346 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: walking around standing in the pocket lab out there. Yeah, 347 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: you just bring up that matrix play that you had. 348 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: Was that that's not? Also your highlight is like, what's 349 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: the your most favorite memory you know on the field 350 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: in a game with the Texans? Is it? Ah, you 351 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: have one? Are they many? Or you know? I think 352 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: I had many. I didn't really have, um, you know, 353 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: I had some pretty memorable touchdowns. Obviously, I have some 354 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: silly coning and stuff like that was gonna come up. Yeah, 355 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask about that. That always comes up. 356 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: I always tell people I was planning on scoring a 357 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: lot more touchdown so that would have been drowned out 358 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: and YouTube was just coming around. Sure, I wasn't sure 359 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: it ended up on the YouTube, but I'm fine with that. 360 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Um the you know what, it was funny I got 361 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: cut before we actually made the playoffs, so I wasn't 362 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: in the locker room. We made that playoff team. But 363 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: the most memorable game and team, whoever part it, was 364 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: when we went into Green Bay. It was December, it 365 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: was probably negative three and I was part of that 366 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: last drive where Chris Brown hit the game winning field 367 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: goal and never forget walking into the huddle and everyone 368 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: was kind of wide eyed, and I look at On 369 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: Daniels and I was like, who wants to be a 370 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: hero And it was like, I'm like, dude, we have 371 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: a chance to like beat Green Bay at Green Bay 372 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: and minus two degree weather, like this hasn't happened before, 373 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: and we did it, and that locker room was special. 374 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: It felt like, uh felt like we had actually accomplished 375 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: something that hadn't been done in a franchise history before. Yeah, 376 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: all right, you're back in southern californ You're in one 377 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: of the greatest spots in the world, Manhattan Beach. It's 378 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: an awesome place to visit, awesome place to live. I'm 379 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: sure if you're living there, Um, what do you miss 380 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: most though about the city of Houston from your time here, 381 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: because you were here for a bit. Yeah. Um, well 382 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: I can start with the restaurants. Um, Los Angeles has 383 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: good restaurants, but not in the kind of like spacing 384 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: that Houston has. Um I missed the space. Yeah. Yeah, 385 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: there's a lot of beach towns are great. But my 386 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: neighbor lives about this far away from more I do, 387 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: and the traffic is way worse out here than it 388 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: is out there. Um. The weather is way better here 389 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: than it is out there. So I don't miss the weather, 390 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Like the the people of Houston, I think, Um, 391 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: when I was there, it seemed like there was this 392 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: kind of transition, Katrina transition. There was a lot of 393 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: more southern, kind of New Orleans flavor came into Houston, 394 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: and it was fun to see that city kind of 395 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: evolved into the flavor that it is because it's a 396 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: lot different than any other city in Texas, and that 397 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: like it's it's nothing like Dallas. It's kind of got 398 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of Austin in there. And because it's 399 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: got the got the uniqueness, and it's got the people 400 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: have their own their own colorful behavior, but it has 401 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: a lot more of kind of that southern kind of 402 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 1: draw that comes into people's kind of language and whatnot. 403 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: And so I do miss that. You know, in Californians 404 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: we have our own. It's not something I hear because 405 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: I probably sound like that, but I do miss. I 406 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: do miss Texans in general, and I do think what 407 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: was fun about Texans is that, like they have a 408 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: natural love and hate relationships with Californians. Right, We're like 409 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: the only them In New York maybe Florida, people too, 410 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: are the only states that will just argue in terms 411 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: of a state which is better. It's not like anyone 412 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: from Colorado's arguing with Texas and who's better. But Californians 413 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: can argue with Texas. And I always enjoyed that kind 414 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: of conversation and whatnot. And so yeah, i'd say those 415 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: are up there as the things I miss the most. Yeah, well, 416 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I love Texas from here. I'm a Houstonian. 417 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: But when the Texans played the Chargers a couple of 418 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: years ago, I went and hung out with a buddy 419 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: who's now living in California and we met in the 420 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: middle in Manhattan Beach, and I was like, I could 421 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: live here, so, uh yeah, I see why you're there. 422 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: Makes it easy. No stunner there. Hey how about former 423 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: Texans teammates? You keep I imagine you still keep in 424 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: touch with a few of them, don't you. Yeah, bunch. 425 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: Um still really close with Eric Winston, really close to 426 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: Loan Daniels. Um talked pretty frequently with Andre Aaron Foster. 427 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: Keep up with him obviously, Joel Greeson, Mike Brizel from 428 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: my college. Joel Jeson just made it into the Colorado 429 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: State Hall of Fame. So for Joel Um, that was 430 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: that was a big accomplishment for him. Um on the 431 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, Demiko, you know what, Okay, 432 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: So I always tell this funny story about my first year. 433 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell really fast, um my rookie year. Uh. We 434 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: were sitting around until twenty eight. We're sitting around. It's 435 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: like this after the second day at camp and coach 436 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Kubiak says, hey, you guys, we got an announcement someone's 437 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: birthday here. We're really excited about him. He's been really contributing. 438 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: We brought him in this year. We know he's gonna 439 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: kick it. And I was like thinking, like brought me 440 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: in this year. It's my birthday, July twenty eighth. I 441 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: guess he's talking about me really gonna kill He's gonna 442 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: kill it blah blah blah, he's gonna start for us, 443 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: he's gonna dominate blah blah. Everybody give it up for 444 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver, and so Weaver. Everyone claps for Weaver. And 445 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: then someone, I think it was Cooper or you know, 446 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Cooper comes up, or maybe it was Wiley comes up, 447 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: whispers in Kubiak's ear and he goes, oh, hell on, 448 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: we got one more birthday. And I was like, okay, 449 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna get to me. And he's like, uh, we 450 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: drafted this guy. You know, we would think the world 451 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: of him. And I was like, oh, he's giving me 452 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: all these compliments. You know he's out here, you know, 453 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: killing it. Blah blah blah. I think he's gonna be 454 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: a starter, he's gonna be a leader for this team. 455 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: Data everyone give it up for Demiko Ryans, and so 456 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: to me that everyone's I'm like, holy crap, Anthony Weaver, 457 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans. And then they didn't didn't shout out for 458 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: my birthday. The seventh round pick gets no love, but 459 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: it was a big bonding moment. So every year I 460 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: text Weaver and Demiko happy birthday, and then they wait 461 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: like a day to send it back to me because 462 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: it was always a joke, like a Kubiak forgot the 463 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: seventh rounder's birthday. But um, so I keep up with Weaver, 464 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: um Damiko. Um. You know Tanovic who played for US, 465 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: who's now offensive line coach in Green Bay. I talked 466 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: to him every now and then. Um. Remember Von Hutchins 467 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: played for US for quarterback. You out from the Raiders. 468 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: I talk with Van here and there. Um let's see, 469 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, sprinkled in and out there 470 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: been Uh you mingled. You always mingled well, at least 471 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: as an as an observe. You always mingled well with 472 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: just about everybody in the locker room. You're you kind 473 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: of talked with because it's not always like that, you know, 474 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: You're no kind of Some people are more to themselves 475 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: and you, uh, you were good about that. I always 476 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: remember it seemed like you always had a really good 477 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: relationship too with Jacoby Jones, who I contend is a 478 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: is a genius in the sense of he could go 479 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: into a party that you're throwing. He'd go into a 480 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: party that I'm throwing. He'd go into a party that 481 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: this guy off to the side is he's working on 482 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: the puter right here, that he's throwing, and he would 483 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: be the life of those any of those parties, doesn't 484 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: matter if your grandmother's party, he would be the life 485 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: of any party he walked into that t Isn't that 486 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: an accurate statement when you say we were both chameleons. 487 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: I think he is definitely more of a life of 488 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: a party as well as well as I will. I 489 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: will make him the life of the party. I'm a promoter, um, 490 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: but I could I fit in those situations. I think 491 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: that's why we both had a lot of friends throughout 492 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: the locker room and hung out and got along well, 493 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: even though we were oftentimes competing for you know, competing 494 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: for passes and competing for a spot on the roster. Um. He's, yeah, 495 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: I talked with Jacoby here and there. I haven't talked 496 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: spoke with him in a while, but yeah, he is 497 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: uh in a similar way. I'll never forget. So he 498 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: came and he was the only black guy at a 499 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: party one time, and he was like, I'm perfectly fine 500 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and we went and he killed it, 501 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: just like you mentioned. He was the life of the party. 502 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: And then I went to like a receiver defensive line 503 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: party and I was only white, only white dude, and 504 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: Jacoby and Andre like, he'll be fine, don't leave him, 505 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: he'll be all he'll mingle and so like I you know, 506 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean there was always yea worry about your teammates 507 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: kind of every now and then, because the real world 508 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: is not like a locker room where like it's a 509 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: safe place to communicate. The locker room is a safe 510 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: place to communicate, to be yourself, to to say things 511 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: you wouldn't otherwise say. Um. And some people are scared 512 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: of that when when they get in the real world. 513 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: But Jacoby and I and there's certainly a lot of others, 514 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: um that can kind of socialize in any situation. But yeah, 515 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: I agree with Jacoby. Jacoby couldn't be invited to my 516 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: grandmother grandmother's ninety seven birthday and he'd kill it. Yep, 517 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: you sure would. So what's next for you? Man? You know? 518 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: And I want to turn this business is something big. Um. 519 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: I think sports date is a ripe industry. I think 520 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: that it takes the right person kind of with the 521 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: right attitude and kind of experience. You know, I can 522 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: be a nerd, but I'll always be a ballplayer at heart. 523 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: And I think that's ah, that's the key, um, to 524 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: have a kind of that real kind of um spirit 525 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: and neath those of the company. UM. So I'm excited 526 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: to do that. Uh. You know, I got two kids now, Uh, congratulations. 527 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: It's a daughter that's four, Johanna, and I have a son, Vigo. 528 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: M Vigo carries a shovel with them and hits left handed. 529 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: So I might be doing a lot more baseball coaching. Um. 530 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: Everywhere I go, it's fine with me. And you play. 531 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: You're a pretty good baseball player. Growing I was pretty 532 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: good baseball player, basketball player. UM. I kind of pick 533 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: up all sports. And then you know, I call her 534 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: out of state. You learn how to play all the 535 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: all the all the drinking games as well. I can. 536 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: I can get it around a shuffleball, a dart boarder 537 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: or a beer pong table with the best of them. Um. 538 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: And then and then my wife's an actress and so 539 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: kind of just supporting the fam and what they want 540 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: to do is certainly something I really enjoy as well. 541 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: That's fantastic man. I'm really happy for you, and it's 542 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: fun seeing the success that you've had. It's been fun. 543 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: Here are you on the radio because you do pop 544 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: in time to time, and I gotta give pender gas 545 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, and those guys from Crap you know, I mean, 546 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: they know what they're talking about half the time. Yeah, 547 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: it's funny to hear you mixing it up. We'll listen. Man. 548 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: Glad you're doing great. Can't wait to do this again 549 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: with you sometime down the road. And best of luck 550 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: with the business, best of luck with your kids kids. 551 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: I hope we're looking at the next shoheo tani there 552 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: in in Manhattan Beach. Sound good, Vigo, you can keep 553 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: it and keep a lookout, Vigo Anderson, he'll be smashing, 554 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: smashing Homer's two gs or one and two gz. Okay, 555 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: good to know that's Adam and Anderson. Where are they now,