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Speaker 1: under the.

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Speaker 2: Desk from the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hansis got heroes here, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Happy Mother's Day belatedly.

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Speaker 2: So all the moms out there that listened to the show,

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot of them. But we're already spinning

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Speaker 2: forward in this studio because we got a cool dad

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Speaker 2: convention right now. We got a white denim jacket on Rosenthal,

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Speaker 2: black denim on Cecilo. I just want to green screen

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Speaker 2: me and put the good angel and the bad angel

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Speaker 2: on each shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Jacket.

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Speaker 1: Bro, tell me what to do and how to play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, last last weekend when we went out, I commented,

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Speaker 4: I liked Mark's denim jacket sporting lately, so I went

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Speaker 4: into my closets to try to find the closest thing.

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Speaker 3: I haven't thought we could be jacket bros.

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Speaker 5: Well, I really feel that connection with you, Greg.

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Speaker 3: It is and you also asked me advertise me out

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Speaker 3: on YouTube.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's like how many episodes in a row

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Speaker 5: Being commented on?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was funny that when we got together with

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Speaker 2: a certain individual last week to celebrate times with a

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Speaker 2: certain individual, that you asked, Greg because Mark was wearing

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Speaker 2: this very handsome Levi's faded black jacket jean jacket. How

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Speaker 2: come you haven't said anything on the show because you're

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Speaker 2: always bringing up sartorial choices of us on the program.

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Speaker 2: And I said, this one was a big deal, the

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Speaker 2: faded Levi denim. So I need to give it a

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Speaker 2: little time to marinate. I knew it would be too

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Speaker 5: It's a good strategy on your part. It's just like

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Speaker 5: I fine, like jean jackets have been around for hundreds

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Speaker 2: Not on you, not since maybe you know Lake Happiness,

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I don't have the same social graces or intelligence

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Speaker 4: that Dan does. And I came a hot and Mark

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Speaker 4: did not like it when I brought it up.

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Speaker 3: No, I liked it. I think I did what you did.

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Speaker 5: Greg, I fired a shot back at whatever you had

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Speaker 3: I was a taking shot, all right.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Monday edition of Around the NFL as

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Speaker 2: we kind of ease into our off season sched you'll

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Speaker 2: get two EPs a week until you know, around training camp,

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Speaker 2: unless you know, things pop up.

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Speaker 1: Here and there.

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Speaker 2: We'll be doing shows from here in the studio were

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Speaker 2: as I said.

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Speaker 1: At the top, Chris Westling Podcast studio.

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Speaker 2: But we'll be doing some remote shows too, and maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll do a road show. I want to have

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Speaker 2: a conversation about that. A road show.

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Speaker 4: Well, we've also got the Big Theology podcast on the

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Speaker 5: those things, I think the road show multiple stops. Are

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Speaker 2: I mean, all this stuff, I guess is that's for

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Speaker 2: a meeting, an extended meeting mark for us all After

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Speaker 2: the show, I'm talking to Beef's sixty seventy five minutes.

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Speaker 5: I'll be forming my verbal strategy during the show to

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Speaker 5: ensure my quick exit.

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Speaker 2: To kind of take a look at the landscape as

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Speaker 2: When will the quote unquote mandatory camps veteran camps.

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Speaker 4: The first and second week of June they wrap up.

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Speaker 3: That would be a year.

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Speaker 2: So what we're doing going to break this into two

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Speaker 5: It feels braggy to have that many letters, a little

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Speaker 4: The glossary, I want to see how you transition China

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Speaker 2: Headline for this podcast episode, Greg Roosevelt colon China problematic.

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Speaker 1: We're covered.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were. You were the problematic one here.

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Speaker 4: The Japanese got about eight thousand characters and that and

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Speaker 1: And let's start with a a for all is quiet.

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Speaker 2: Just kind of a little preamble here, a little touching

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Speaker 2: on what we just hit. Like I'll use your old guy,

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Speaker 2: your old job, Greg as an example, Pro Football Talk

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Speaker 2: scrolled through their content for the last week or so,

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Speaker 2: about eighty four percent of it is rookie contracts being signed. Ever,

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Speaker 3: Literally no drama whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: There is one editorial that was curiously posted after ten

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Speaker 2: Some takes in there, so my point being, there's just

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Speaker 2: It was pointed out that back in two thousand and four,

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Speaker 5: What about the other eighteen holidays that they've totally laid

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Speaker 5: Well, it gave Mike Florio something.

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Speaker 4: that best describes me when a player from my top

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Speaker 3: You know, the top one on one is still sitting

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Speaker 1: The boy exactly? I'm sorry, I'm the problematic one here.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's hear it. Let's hear it.

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Speaker 4: It's like a It's just like a fun word sometime

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Speaker 4: with this glassery exercise where in year three you just

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Speaker 4: It's an automenopia. You know, it's not officially in the dictionary.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, a lot more than plenty of second

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Speaker 5: I think it's like when they start, you know, Greg

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Speaker 4: Right, and you don't have to give up the compensatory

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Speaker 3: Just these little signings they matter.

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Speaker 2: Right, what are we doing? What are we doing? Is

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Speaker 4: But you go now just doing live interpretations of old drops.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that wouldn't go well.

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Speaker 4: I walked by him in stumped to the nuts. He's

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Did he bring me and leiococa hot fudge Sundays at

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Speaker 1: I can't remember.

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Speaker 5: Where's a small child room in the building.

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Speaker 3: With a cool dad jean jacket.

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Speaker 1: Let's go the letter, see Marca.

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Speaker 5: I want to do this all right? See is free?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know why I've written these out,

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Speaker 2: Bad news and you're right, You're so right right May fifteenth,

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Speaker 5: I'll take what I can get because I thought, even

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it is Greg.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, I know, because you were a little head

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Speaker 2: But I'm operating under the idea that he just is

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Speaker 1: That's kind of where I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sting, and I'll be happy to be proven wrong because

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Speaker 1: A good guy.

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Speaker 2: He's very active in charity and Sierra. They go around

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Speaker 4: But he might be shot, Greg, he might be shot.

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Speaker 4: I think there will be puff pieces. I think there

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Speaker 4: He was one of the worst three or four quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to see that.

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Speaker 5: I don a problem with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Also, it should be noted once more that Jared Stindham

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Speaker 3: So pretty good money if yes, at a good rate.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if he is a middling quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's creating a narrative to

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Speaker 1: I think you say which Lucci's the.

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Speaker 3: He's on the Broncos.

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Speaker 4: There are there aren't many receiver groups that are better

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Speaker 5: I feel like we were saying that last long.

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Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad, all right, A let's move to

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Speaker 1: the letter D. D is for desperate. The Bengals.

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Speaker 2: They're a little desperate for their place in the sun.

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Speaker 2: Not only do we want to be on Black Friday

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Speaker 2: We want to be the lions of the day after Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: How about us, guys, how do you feel about us?

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Speaker 2: And Mike North NFL executive Mike North, schedule guy.

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Speaker 2: you like a girl in high school and you kind

445
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Speaker 2: of overplay your hand a little bit.

446
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Speaker 5: Some people beyond high school do then, right, exactly see

447
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Speaker 5: it out on the town all the time.

448
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Speaker 2: You just kind of overplay your hand instead of playing

449
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Speaker 2: it cool like they probably if they would have just

450
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Speaker 2: raised their hand and say, how about Black Friday for us?

451
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,199
Speaker 2: We've got Joe Burrow or a powerhouse, right, and then

452
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Speaker 2: if it goes well, like maybe you start to say.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we'll do it next year too.

454
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Speaker 2: But to come in hot and say we want Black

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Speaker 2: Friday this year and every year cool?

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Speaker 1: It came up a little d does so I love.

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Speaker 5: I absolutely could not agree more. The only little I

458
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Speaker 5: would throw in there that maybe is sneaky smart by

459
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Speaker 5: them because it does look like all those things is

460
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Speaker 5: that means number one, for the rest of time, everyone

461
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Speaker 5: attached to the Bengals organization spends Thanksgiving Day at home

462
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Speaker 5: with their family, right, they got to go to work

463
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Speaker 5: the next day. But that's true of a lot of people.

464
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Speaker 5: But it's like you're never gonna have to fly somewhere

465
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Speaker 5: else or you know, lug a bunch of equipment to

466
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Speaker 5: you know, Detroit or fill in the blank on Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 5: Other than that, I don't think that was part of

468
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Speaker 5: their strategy. It just simply they look like teenage boys.

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Speaker 4: Might have been I mean, the Brown They are a

470
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Speaker 4: family owned business, one of the few left I mean

471
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Speaker 4: in terms of like the original NFL families. Maybe they

472
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Speaker 4: were trying to just keep it all tight on Thanksgiving,

473
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Speaker 4: not go out.

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Speaker 3: Katie Blackburn's running that chip.

475
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: It's sad, especially because it it feeds into Midwestern insecurities.

477
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Speaker 3: Is Cincinnati in the Midwest? Did we ever get a

478
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Speaker 3: it is west?

479
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Speaker 1: Try to pitch that it was in the South, I believe,

480
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Speaker 1: which was as close to pretty out there.

481
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Speaker 4: Yet it's really feeding into the insecurities of East Coast

482
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Speaker 4: bias because you know Mike North, who I don't know

483
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Speaker 4: if the Bengals would like him putting this business out

484
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Speaker 4: there because it does make them look empathetic, uh, he said.

485
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Speaker 4: Amazon requested that one of the New York teams.

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Speaker 1: I know, I saw that I was going to make

487
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Speaker 1: that point. Next Amazon reached out to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mike is very uh He's like very talkative

489
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Speaker 2: about this, like he is letting people know that Mike

490
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Speaker 2: North is in charge. Amazon reached out to us and

491
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Speaker 2: said New York is the number one retail market in

492
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Speaker 2: the country, and the game in New York might be

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Speaker 2: a fun way to introduce this concept.

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Speaker 1: M The Giants Eagles was also considered. So yeah, this.

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Speaker 2: Does and I understand, even as someone who's a native

496
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Speaker 2: of New York, I understand why those frustrations exist since

497
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Speaker 2: he just played played a little stronger hand there.

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Speaker 5: It's a great information from Mike North, who just seems

499
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Speaker 5: to want to dish left and right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's we get him on the show.

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Speaker 5: I think we should.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he sounds like he'll talk about literally and.

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Speaker 4: He I would, he would absolutely want want to come

504
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Speaker 4: on the show. I know Mike North a little bit

505
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Speaker 4: because the first year I worked for the NFL, I

506
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Speaker 4: had a desk it was about this essentially in business development,

507
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 4: which didn't make any sense, but right around the corner

508
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Speaker 4: the scheduling department, and they were you know, they were

509
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Speaker 4: friendly guys in that department, you know, just just a

510
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Speaker 4: few desks away, and they would get very busy and stressed,

511
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Speaker 4: and I remember I once asked to like, go look

512
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Speaker 4: at what's going on on their boards.

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Speaker 3: They wouldn't. They wouldn't do that. He was a nice guy.

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Speaker 4: I do remember once at the NFL office, and this

515
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Speaker 4: was not Mike North, but a certain higher ranking executive

516
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Speaker 4: went by my desk and was very upset that that

517
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Speaker 4: NFL dot Com was mentioning the NBA. They were like

518
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Speaker 4: comparing athletes to Lebron and they were like, we can't

519
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Speaker 4: have that, Like we got to not get it coming.

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Speaker 5: These athletes to NBA players. No, you can't, like.

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Speaker 4: We cannot cannot give them any juice. And he held

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Speaker 4: me personally responsible.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I remember writing rough leave twelve around the NFL blog

525
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Speaker 2: posts about would Lebron James make a good tight end

526
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Speaker 2: for the Dallas Cowboys metrics gold It was all right,

527
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Speaker 2: let's take a break and we'll move on with the

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Speaker 2: Glossary of terms Part one.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back.

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Speaker 1: We're up to the letter E with Greg Ye.

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Speaker 4: All Right, my word is expectations, as in the Cleveland

532
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Speaker 4: Browns should have high expectations this year. This is coming

533
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Speaker 4: off the Zidarius Smith trade, which we haven't hit on

534
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Speaker 4: this show yet. Zadarias Smith, who had a great first

535
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Speaker 4: half of the season for the Vikings and has had

536
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Speaker 4: a great career in general before falling off down the stretch,

537
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Speaker 4: and we talked about he wanted to be traded, he

538
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 4: wanted more money, got dealt to the Browns for a

539
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 4: couple day three pick swaps essentially nothing, just the contract

540
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Speaker 4: dump where they give up a couple of fists and

541
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Speaker 4: they get a sixth and a seventh back. It's nothing,

542
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Speaker 4: and they get a really good second pass rusher if

543
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Speaker 4: he can stay healthy and if they can kind of

544
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Speaker 4: keep him focused, which has been an issue for zadaria Smith,

545
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Speaker 4: and as you mentioned about Clowney, just that position in

546
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Speaker 4: general for Cleveland. And I just started thinking this team

547
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Speaker 4: has had a really nice offseason. I like what they

548
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Speaker 4: did adding Elijah Moore and Cedric Tillman. I think the

549
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 4: offensive line's in good shape. You still have Chubb, you know, Nijoku.

550
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Speaker 4: Conklin's sign long terms. Like I liked what they did

551
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Speaker 4: in the draft. You bring in Dalvin Thomason. It's a

552
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Speaker 4: good secondary. I look at this roster. I think it's

553
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Speaker 4: a very good roster, and I think there should be

554
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Speaker 4: high expectations for the Browns. I don't know if they'll

555
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Speaker 4: hit him, because I don't know if Sashaun Watson's gonna

556
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Speaker 4: ever get back to the way he was. But this

557
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Speaker 4: is year four of Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski. You

558
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 4: gave up boatloaded draft picks and gave a guy the

559
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Speaker 4: most guaranteed money in the history of the sport. Of course,

560
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Speaker 4: there should be massive expectations, and I actually think if

561
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Speaker 4: Watson can play, they have the team to reach them.

562
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Speaker 4: And if they don't reach them, I think there's gonna

563
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Speaker 4: have to be changes because year four, like, what are

564
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Speaker 4: we doing here? What was the Watson trade and all

565
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Speaker 4: that misery for if not to win some games.

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Speaker 3: I love the Smith move. I like the roster general.

567
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Speaker 5: I think we got back this offseason to Andrew Berry

568
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Speaker 5: being the guy that I'd found so fascinating, the way

569
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Speaker 5: that he quickly builds a team. I think he's done

570
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Speaker 5: a better job than Stefanski. You're right, Watson is the

571
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Speaker 5: absolute X factor there, but Miles Garrett, who's sort of

572
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Speaker 5: been along with Denzel Ward alone on that defense, Jim Schwartz,

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Speaker 5: I think people forget is the new defensive coordinator. You've

574
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Speaker 5: got Miles Garrett, You've got Oguronquo, You've got Zadarias Smith.

575
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Speaker 5: You last year that the interior of the defensive line

576
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Speaker 5: was a mess. You've got Tomlinson, Jordan Elliot's a good

577
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Speaker 5: young player. They can move guys all over the place

578
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Speaker 5: because Smith is someone that you can line up along

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Speaker 5: with everyone else. And the defense, to me, which has

580
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Speaker 5: been a real weakness at times in the past. If

581
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Speaker 5: you look at their PFF grades on both sides of

582
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Speaker 5: the ball, there really is an arraging weakness other than

583
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Speaker 5: the lowest score of anyone is Deshaun Watson. So you

584
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Speaker 5: have to find out what he is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I kind of was saying this when

586
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Speaker 2: you did the GM rankings. I thought you had him

587
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Speaker 2: too low Andrew Berry because of the Shawn and all

588
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: the heat that was cooked into that. But like he

589
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: has overall done a pretty good job. I think building

590
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: out this roster, and I think people it's and this

591
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: is why you can't put the toothpaste back in the

592
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Speaker 2: tube with Watson because you could say he's back to

593
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Speaker 2: who he was. Well, everything changed when when they brought

594
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Speaker 2: in Watson, So no matter what happens, and I think

595
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Speaker 2: this is ultimately the grand oversight of the Browns. No

596
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Speaker 2: matter what happens, even if they go to the super

597
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: Bowl this year, people are gonna only talk about in

598
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Speaker 2: those two weeks going.

599
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Speaker 1: Up to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that Shaun Watson's playing in the super

601
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Speaker 2: Bowl like you made, you got in bed with a

602
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: character that really changes fundamentally how people view the team. However,

603
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: you can't look at this roster and not say that's

604
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Speaker 2: a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: If Deshaun Watson gets back.

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Speaker 2: To who he was, and I think that he is

607
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: more more likely, and I know it was not a

608
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: good six games. In fact, there was prett bad six games.

609
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Speaker 2: I think it's more likely he returns to form or

610
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: something close to it than he just sucks. Now, because

611
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Speaker 2: when you break down why would he be bad? You

612
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: would look at things like, is there a decline in

613
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: skill age related decline? Is he playing with no skill talent?

614
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: Is offensive coaching that up to stuff? None of those

615
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: things are the case.

616
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Speaker 3: So is he mentally tough?

617
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Speaker 1: Is he mentally tough?

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Speaker 2: I have to say though, and this is we're separating

619
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Speaker 2: some things now. Of course he has a level of

620
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Speaker 2: mental toughness. He made it to the NFL. He was

621
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Speaker 2: a college legend at Clemson, it became a superstar quarterback.

622
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Speaker 2: It's all still there, and whether people like it or not,

623
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Speaker 2: there is absolute reality where the Browns kick ass this year.

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Speaker 4: I think so, And I guess Yeah's why I wanted

625
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: to throw that out there, because I think the Smith

626
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: trade was the cherry on top of like they should

627
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: be expecting a lot.

628
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Speaker 5: Though.

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Speaker 4: The reason why I don't feel bad that he's low

630
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Speaker 4: on the GM rankings is it's a huge risk and

631
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Speaker 4: if if it doesn't work out, that's all on him,

632
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: that's all on them, and like what are they doing here?

633
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: Like it ends up being one of the worst trades

634
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: like like that you could come up with. And Browns

635
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: fans just kind of can't have it both ways. They

636
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: don't like pointing out that he was worse than Russell

637
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: Wilson last year. He's one of the worst five quarterbacks

638
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: in the league, I would say, And it was the

639
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: worst six games stretch of Watson's career by far. Like

640
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: we'll just no other stretch like it, right, even as

641
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 4: a rookie, Like there was no other stretch like it.

642
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Speaker 3: You can't have it that.

643
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Speaker 4: You can't say that and like say, well he's he's

644
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: coming back, and then also say well, there's no expectations

645
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: this year, Like I think Browns fans probably do expect

646
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: this team to be good. Maybe I'm wrong, but like

647
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: you can't also like tamp down saying like well, we're

648
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: just trying to get back to winning nine or ten games.

649
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Speaker 3: It's like, what are you doing this for? Then you're

650
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: for this program.

651
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 5: Tons of Browns fans, and like, I think the expectations

652
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 5: from those who are like seeing all this that you

653
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 5: mentioned are very high. Yeah, that's I think there's a

654
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 5: lot of pressure on Stefanski.

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Speaker 4: I agree, and Barry, I think Browns are Jimmy Hasl

656
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 4: hasn't stuck around with these gms too long this time

657
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: he has.

658
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Speaker 1: Start five And oh in October, what are you up

659
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: to over there? Mark?

660
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Speaker 5: Well, see, I mean I'm not you know, It's like

661
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Speaker 5: I like.

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Speaker 1: I smut check in my mind.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know we do this periodically, to this periodically,

664
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Speaker 5: but like let's just let's just see what happens. It

665
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: would be they would be a big story. They would

666
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 5: absolutely be a big story. And you brought up the

667
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 5: brown type of a couple of years ago, when we

668
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 5: talked about the Jets in their season coming up. Such

669
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 5: a big difference with that team in terms of hype

670
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 5: because it was built on Soggi foundation.

671
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Speaker 1: Ultimately, because Baker was the problem and he was the.

672
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: Quarterback in the defense, If de Seawan could play quarterbacks,

673
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: is not gonna.

674
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Speaker 1: Be the problem.

675
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, defense needs to not be too. They have been

676
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: a total letdown. Heck they could have. I think they

677
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: could have made the Super Bowl. That that their offense

678
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 4: was good enough to make the Super Bowl and win

679
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl with Baker Mayfield that year.

680
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: But the defense.

681
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, he wasn't. Oh, he wasn't always the problem, like

682
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: flying F Mark. All right, Uh again, I wrote this

683
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 5: in the middle of the night, so I'm just checking

684
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 5: back into the now. But I want to let you

685
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 5: know how I feel about this letter.

686
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally believe that you have to text it

687
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: us at six in the morning.

688
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 5: Well, no, I like I that is a factual account

689
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 5: of how it's occurred.

690
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: F is for F me.

691
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 5: I'm a Patriots fan. Oh no, Well, hold on, Mark,

692
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: here's the problem. We're not bad, We're boring. We're right

693
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 5: down the middle, a big, fat bowl of heavily textured

694
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 5: cottage cheese a beacon pointing only to yesterday. If I'm

695
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: a sixteen year old Patriots fan, I've been duped into

696
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 5: this by a gaggle of hard drinking Wooster Mass uncles.

697
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 5: They've known nothing else but ease since the turn of

698
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 5: the century, slapping each other on the back and walking

699
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 5: around their workplaces parroting Little bella chicken and phrases.

700
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: Can we get a split screen of Mark and Greg

701
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: for the balance of this read?

702
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Mark, little Bellachickian phrases, Little Bill Wannabe's in

703
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 5: every desperate corporate office, men cradled and swaddling clothes through

704
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 5: the childlike ease of six super bowls. Every Christmas morning

705
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 5: is Christmas. Every dawn there's a bulging Easter basket by

706
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 5: your bedside. But if you're that sixteen year old Patriots fan,

707
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 5: the feeling is different. The feeling is that of being

708
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 5: flung out of a moving vehicle along the burning Mass

709
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 5: turnpike seven feet above the ball boys. They're silenced, rotting

710
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: corpses a minor price to pay for touchdowns. Their flesh

711
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 5: will produce springtime flowers. That's how the earth works. But

712
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 5: this time those flowers are being delivered from somewhere else

713
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 5: the House of Satan. Welcome to your Endless Winner, a

714
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 5: thirty two year period where you will know in great

715
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: detail every inch of sports Siberia. I'm sure you'll stick around.

716
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 5: That's my report on the New England Patriots.

717
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: See yeah, I like football. I like football season, all

718
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: the things that go with it.

719
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Speaker 3: See you guys, you didn't like it.

720
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: I remember West didn't like it when I brought up

721
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: that I was getting out when Brady leaves.

722
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: But it looks like it was a good, good move.

723
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: You know, well you didn't stick around.

724
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that it reminds me of lack of character. What

725
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: Tony Soprano.

726
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: Said in the first episode of The Sopranos where he's

727
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: talking about, you know what it was like growing up

728
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: around the heyday of the Mob in Jersey and he

729
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: kind of comes to a realization and he says, lately,

730
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: I've been getting the feeling that I came in at

731
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: the end.

732
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: The best is over. And that's that's not just the Patriots.

733
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot of fan bases through all sports that

734
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: you kind of come of age after a glory period.

735
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: Of Olden State Warriors. Your ten year old fans here.

736
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's particularly probably annoying for the teenage New

737
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: England's sports fan who get the Celtics and the well

738
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: in the season. At least that there was actually a

739
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: twenty year run, so it was like an endless summer

740
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: that you don't now have. I just like that someone

741
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: else is speaking on this topic rather than me, and

742
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: I'll say no more.

743
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: Well, forget the teenagers.

744
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: At least they got some they got some great fun

745
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: at like great times to be a fan when they

746
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: were ten to eleven years old. My poor son Walker

747
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: is jumping into the Patriots fans.

748
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: He's eight years old. He can't he can't remember that

749
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: Rams game.

750
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: Oh you don't have to do nothing, but media give

751
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: it soun in California.

752
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: I haven't been pushing it on him, and he's quick

753
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: to jump to whoever is winning.

754
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: But in his heart, actually the Patriots are his number one.

755
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: Well you're not really following the Patriots too closely.

756
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm rooting for but I'm not. I don't feel

757
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 4: the I felt this and I really noticed during this

758
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 4: you know Celtics run. I don't have the emotions, and

759
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: I think because it's work related. But I don't have

760
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: the same devastation on a losing Patriots game or win.

761
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 4: I feel more like a fan with the Celtics.

762
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 5: You used to Greg, you're being at those Super Bowls

763
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 5: with you, you were your body was quiver six titles.

764
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: So I would think, as someone that is a reasonable

765
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: person deep inside, you know, how mad can you get

766
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 2: when you get six?

767
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 4: I also I agree with that, and I think it's

768
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: healthy with our work if you feel like just being

769
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: loyal to football and disconnecting this a little bit from

770
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: your team and still still rooting for them. They're still

771
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 4: the only team that really.

772
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: Just supporting the shield. You're saying, yeah, blindly supporting Rob Low.

773
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 3: This roster is not terrible. That's the weird thing they're got.

774
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: I think the schedule is tough, but I think they're

775
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: gonna be a pain and they'll probably annoy everyone and

776
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: they'll probably win eight or nine games.

777
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 3: Again something the other.

778
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: Day, like down the middle, right they are It makes

779
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: sense in a loaded AFC East on paper that the

780
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: Patriots will eat dirt and go four and thirteen and

781
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: be feasted on by all these teams. There's logic towards that.

782
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: It's probably not how it's gonna play out. It's a

783
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: credit to Belchick, even though now Bill has something to

784
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: proved such a huge year for Belchick.

785
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: I think he's trying to be good on defense because

786
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: that's what he knows and feels like he's best at.

787
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 4: And they have set up a young and very versatile

788
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: secondary they added to their front seven. I actually think

789
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: on paper the defense could be a top five or

790
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 4: six defense, and they played like that really the last

791
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 4: couple of years without the same amount of the offense

792
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 4: that needs to be Yeah, the offense needs to be

793
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: a lot better.

794
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 5: Well, counter argument, we were downstairs watching, you know, on

795
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 5: a NFL network the Rams the first Rams Patriots Super Bowl,

796
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 5: and it's, you know, six minutes into the fourth quarter

797
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 5: and Tom Brady is ninety six yards and the defense

798
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: is not allowing the Rams and Kurt Warner to do anything.

799
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 5: So back to the roots maybe, but still kind of

800
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 5: boring that.

801
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a boring TP People thought that two

802
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 4: thousand and one team was boring.

803
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 5: And they were easy to rout till it wasn't. Well,

804
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 5: they started like one and three.

805
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I believe that year they were Yeah, they were fine

806
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: and it was fun. I was in Boston for.

807
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 4: That ride that was I just mean they were like

808
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: highest scoring offense for the regular season or something.

809
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, let's see g G is

810
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: for Green comma Trent replacement Matt Ryan joining CB. Yes,

811
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: And I just want to say, first of all, I

812
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: don't actually believe that Trent Green. I hope he has

813
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: a long career that continues to flourish with the Tiffany Network.

814
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: I do feel like there's a with Matt Ryan. He

815
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: always seemed to be someone that would be destined to

816
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: be in a broadcast booth. He looked like that when

817
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: he was twenty seven years old. When you take his

818
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: helmet off, all he's like, oh, he looks like he's

819
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: should be standing next to Iron Eagle, and now here

820
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: we are. That time has come and he's coming off

821
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: obviously a rough couple of years back end of his

822
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: career where he struggled in Atlanta with a not so

823
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: hot team and then went to Indianapolis and was part

824
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: of that tire fire. So now he joins CBS. He

825
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: reiterated by the way that he's not retiring, and there's

826
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: a there's a business reason for that because he still

827
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: do twelve million from the Colts this year, So it

828
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: would not behoove him to retire because that would muddy

829
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: up those greenbacks from heading into his bank account from

830
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: the cults who are desperate to just move forward as

831
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: an organization. My other point that I'm awake about Matt Ryan,

832
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 2: there is a tendency for even though there's more scrutiny

833
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: than ever on these booths, it's almost like everybody wants

834
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: the same thing, and there's just like a flattening out

835
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: of what you expect from your play by play guy

836
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: and what your announcer. And that's why part of what

837
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: made Romo sensation for that brief period, it's like, well, he's.

838
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: Got this enthusiasm and he's predicting plays. He's just different.

839
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: And then when you see Greg Olsen, who I like

840
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: a lot, but he's now held up, is this like

841
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: the vanguard, It's like he's just like pretty steady.

842
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: He's not like a lot of juice to him.

843
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: Give me the Matt Ryan, who's a maniac, the guy

844
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: that there are legends about about how angry and he's

845
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: screaming at people on the field and has like a

846
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: ton of aggression in him when he studies the game

847
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: and sees plays not go the way they want. I

848
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: want Matt Ryan with the red face. I want him

849
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: getting mad. Want I want some more personality in the

850
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: booths in general, in the NFL and really in sports

851
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: media in general. But these NFL booths, and maybe Matt

852
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: Ryan will shock us and not just be a milk

853
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: toast generic x QB like some others we've known, but

854
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: kind of brings a little edge and gets a little

855
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: mad at the guys and isn't afraid to be overly critical,

856
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: you know, mix it up, Matt reeh.

857
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 5: I think it's so like unpredictable which one of these

858
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 5: guys succeed. And it's funny because Matt Ryan was that

859
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: way and fiery, except always had an attitude of kind

860
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 5: of being dull. You think about Matt Ryan, you kind

861
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 5: of think of like maybe just a notch or two

862
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 5: personality wise, more exciting than even his name Echo. Yeah,

863
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 5: but I mean maybe he'll be great. I mean, I

864
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 5: think it's interesting that he's hopping right in where while

865
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 5: there's increasing doubt that Tom Brady will ever take the

866
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 5: role that he signed up for.

867
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: No, there isn't, Yes, there is is not increasing doubt.

868
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 5: There's literally reporting here me and Mary.

869
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: That's just you guys keep saying it.

870
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 5: Go read what Andrew Marshaun's put out over the last Go.

871
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Read what Andrew Mushan said as a pushback to him

872
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: getting aggregated off his podcast.

873
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 5: So hold on. So, like, the one thing is, why

874
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 5: does Tom Brady need an entire year to go prepare

875
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: for this when Matt Ryan's just going to go do

876
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 5: it right now?

877
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: Because Brady has the ability to do that, you can

878
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: do whatever he wants.

879
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 5: I'm very invested in Tom Brady doing this.

880
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: But I think because I'm from the start, I have

881
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: a sandwich on and I said, everybody's got to chill out.

882
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Everybody's expecting him to do something crazy.

883
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 5: I think it's a great sun. And you're like, I

884
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 5: might do this in a year, like it's in general

885
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 5: in life. It's like, I'm really excited I'll doing this.

886
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: I maybe picking an.

887
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: I turn it around.

888
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: I just realized he's going to be at the he

889
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: committed to going to the Patriots game Week one.

890
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: I guess he's not working.

891
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 5: He's no, he's not working at all this year.

892
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to turn around.

893
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: Why are people like you guys so invested in him

894
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: not doing it.

895
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: We just like our predictions to be right.

896
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I think that's probably what it is.

897
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: I find that it's interesting.

898
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I think why everybody's so like plugged into

899
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: the idea of him renegging on the agreement. I think

900
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: part of me, I'm trying to like say, like, well, oh,

901
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: like he sought out this contract.

902
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: It's a huge deal.

903
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: It gives him high visibility at a huge salary with

904
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: not a ton of work. Why are we just assuming

905
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: he's looking to get out of a deal that he

906
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: sought out and signed.

907
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 4: I think it was just like an exciting moment, like

908
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 4: Kendall Roy got Tom Brady signed up for a minute

909
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 4: that they got to have a press release and then

910
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 4: nothing ever happened.

911
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: All Right, I guess we'll see.

912
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 5: I love it. You talk about like, you know, the

913
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 5: burning intensity, don't worry about who you're talking about being critical.

914
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 5: It's like, I need a year to sit on this

915
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 5: and maybe get better at It's like, I just don't

916
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 5: see that fought with Tom Brady or take a year

917
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 5: to go play.

918
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: I think he was saying, I just played football for

919
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: twenty straight years and I'm going to dive into this,

920
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: So I'm taking any.

921
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: Came in what two thousand and eight. It's not like

922
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 5: he's jumping out of his career after his first contract.

923
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: I think it's more likely that Tom Brady will be

924
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 4: announcing games at some point than it is that Matt

925
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: Ryan is suddenly gonna, you know, turn into Don Rickles.

926
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: They have a lot of fire. I think he could

927
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 3: be good, and that's my hope.

928
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: And wish, but and a dream really but not the reacity.

929
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't imagine that. Just here him in front

930
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: of a micro And that said, I think he could be.

931
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: I just want information. I want to get smarter. And

932
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 4: if he's a little dry, but he's like the Mayoch

933
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: type of announcer where you're he's teaching the audience and

934
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: is a little.

935
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: Dry, I like that.

936
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 4: And that's that's what I'm hoping for, because I don't

937
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: think we're getting personality fiery Matt Ryan.

938
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that game.

939
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: It'd be cool, though, it would be like, oh wow,

940
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: it's a Matt Ryan game. Oh yeah, tm X is

941
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: playing poorly. Oh Ryan's calling the game. He's gonna give

942
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 2: it to him or he'll get you know, he's hyper

943
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: emotional about certain way. It's like, that's why I want

944
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: I want Dan Campbell to win a Super Bowl with

945
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: the Lions at some point. But I also love to

946
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: see Dan Campbell going off on some bros in the booth.

947
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: He could be like a Maddenesque figure.

948
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 5: Maybe it'd be a great surprise for Matt Ryan to

949
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 5: be to be what you're just suggesting.

950
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go with one of the most

951
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: underrated words in the English language.

952
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: Hers stute, nice one, her.

953
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: Stute meaning like harry or shaggy.

954
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: And you know, it's a great time for the off season,

955
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: just like the best beards or just to think about

956
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: like it's a time for people experiment with their.

957
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: Who's the most here stut on the show right now?

958
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm the most I'm the hairriest.

959
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: Its probably the most body hair per capita.

960
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I do have a hairy chest, don't you.

961
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: I do?

962
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: I do. I think there was there were like beach

963
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 5: images that leaked of Greg about eight nine years ago.

964
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: I beach images that leaked.

965
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, damn, a Shek was all over it. I remember that.

966
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: That is ridiculous.

967
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: I uh, I kind of remember that.

968
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

969
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: Sam ask was up in arms, I don't on the

970
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: cover breaking down or so of.

971
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 4: The other podcasts they do the just like a roseland

972
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 4: took them out. I show it, show it off a

973
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 4: little bit.

974
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean you showed off on the other podcast.

975
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 4: Well, just know the rope, the cover art. I'm ware, oh,

976
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: kind of see it. So everybody check that out on it.

977
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: You're not like Robin Williams or anything. I look, I'm

978
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: basically a wet seal, like I just don't. I don't

979
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 2: have a lot. Mark is probably very average on balance,

980
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: I would say, in terms of.

981
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 5: There's a little on the front of it.

982
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

983
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: Well I look at my brother though and my dad

984
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: and they're just they're just kind of like gorillas walking around,

985
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 4: very hairy backs and stuff. So I'm happy in my

986
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 4: family that I'm I'm the least her stupid. But it

987
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 4: also goes to be like Harry and Shaggy. I mean

988
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 4: right now, maybe maybe it's Mark with the beard.

989
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't know a little bit.

990
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 5: I mean, but not really. Yeah, I mean, I don't

991
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: think there's a huge like debate between the three of

992
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 5: us on this front. We did why are we going

993
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 5: down this road. I don't know, just just wait, what

994
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 5: does that have to do?

995
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the glossary of terms connection?

996
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: Well, it's just like we could have the best beards

997
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 4: in the NFL conversation. Oh, Kelsey, you got Mike Evans.

998
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 4: I've always thought it's a nice beard. It's very consistent,

999
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 4: it's always there. Darnold is one of the worst beards

1000
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: I thought when he added that it was one of

1001
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 4: the test spirals looked like like a guy who couldn't

1002
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: really get it going.

1003
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: And I just think that's an And he don't grew

1004
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: a surprisingly strong orange beard.

1005
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he grew more attractive when you like, with

1006
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 5: a number of island moves.

1007
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: It just felt like, Mari, that's something you can experiment

1008
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: with in the off season.

1009
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: It's an off season conversation.

1010
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: And then once we were in the off season during

1011
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 4: the pandemic, I think we have a shot of it. Eric,

1012
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 4: let's take a look if you're watching us on YouTube.

1013
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: We got our great friend Chris Westling. We got Mark.

1014
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Mark might be the most curstute guy there.

1015
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know how to use it.

1016
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: It's weird because I had never attempted to truly grow

1017
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 2: out a beard until the world nearly ended or seemed

1018
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: like it was ending. So I just, you know, it

1019
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: just kept on. It didn't really grow in full in

1020
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: like a cool mountain man way. It just was splotchy,

1021
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: itchy after a while, and it's like this sucks.

1022
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 4: So it was maybe like the longest and it's like

1023
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: the thickest in parts. But again I'm not connecting the

1024
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: mustache with the beards, not connector looking Wes's was was fantastic.

1025
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: It was a solid beard and.

1026
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: As well.

1027
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 5: I mean it was a very strange time. We had

1028
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 5: an agreement just to keep growing the beards. Then suddenly

1029
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 5: unannounced remember this one show, and I got, you know,

1030
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 5: a little bit uh inappropriately annoyed by it. I think

1031
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 5: Dan and Greg just suddenly shaved out of nowhere with

1032
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: no announcement. It was just like, well, what happened to

1033
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 5: our We had an agreement and then it was like

1034
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 5: we're out moving on?

1035
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Our society is somebody maybe it was you, but it

1036
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: does sound like something you get like really discuss.

1037
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's just like blinded by the move.

1038
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't like you were left to be humiliated when

1039
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: we did the next show and you still the beard.

1040
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 5: Though I don't know it peaked me.

1041
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 6: I just wanted to get her stew out there. All right,

1042
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 6: people should learn good job, good work. That's a wess

1043
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 6: and I used to use the word zoftag a lot. Yeah,

1044
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 6: like a large s a individual rubenesque woman.

1045
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and we'll hit the

1046
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: rest of part one.

1047
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: Cvaceous that literally.

1048
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: That has to go.

1049
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: Oh my apple watch wanted to chime in or whether

1050
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: maybe that was credit.

1051
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 5: Did you say bump but shapely?

1052
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1053
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: What did that even?

1054
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: Did he even talk at it? Gave the definition? Or

1055
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: maybe it was my search history.

1056
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 5: All Right, we're back.

1057
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: Let's finish out part one here, starting with Mark. I.

1058
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 5: All right, I is for imbrulio.

1059
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Another good word.

1060
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 5: Yeah it means I mean, it's got a couple of meanings.

1061
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 5: But it's an intricate and confusing interpersonal situation. And we've

1062
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 5: all been there. Uh, but in this case, I refer

1063
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: to the Niners, and I, you know, I think like

1064
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you if it's an embrullio because I

1065
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 5: look at this quarterback situation and we're familiar with it,

1066
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 5: but there are some new developments on one level when

1067
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 5: it comes to Kyle Shanahan, who can't seem to get

1068
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 5: enough of a good thing. Uh, You've got like this

1069
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: post surgery wonder boy with Brock Party, and it's like,

1070
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 5: he's not I just assume he's not gonna start the season,

1071
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 5: But why would we never not be fascinated to see

1072
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 5: what he is on the other side of this rehab?

1073
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 5: Right You've got a former first round pick and Trey

1074
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 5: Lance who's thrown one hundred and two passes in two seasons,

1075
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 5: and you sold the farm for him and he's just

1076
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 5: hanging out. And then you bring in a first round

1077
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 5: flame out in Sam Donald, who, frankly, I mean because

1078
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 5: we've seen Kyle Shanahan, we've seen him indoor. Really, i'd

1079
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 5: say a really elongated, intense man crush on Kirk Cousins

1080
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 5: back in the day, and maybe it still goes on.

1081
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 5: You don't hear about it as much, but there were

1082
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 5: even little whispers this offseason that Kirk Cousins could have

1083
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 5: been a target for Kyle Shanahan. So I am just

1084
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 5: wondering because I'm at this point now where I don't

1085
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 5: care about facts. I just assume that Donald is going

1086
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 5: to start a game or two out of the gate.

1087
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 5: I absolutely do. If you listen to what Kyle Shanahan

1088
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 5: is saying about Sam Donald, I think we could be

1089
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 5: three weeks into the season and if you get Sam Donald,

1090
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 5: who does have skills, and you could argue everywhere he's

1091
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 5: been has been a mess, he get the Shanahan treatment,

1092
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 5: and you get the three best weeks of Sam Darnold's

1093
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 5: existence on the field, and he's like zipping passes to

1094
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 5: Deebo Samuel and doing things that you know better than

1095
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 5: Jimmy g And then some you've got a healthy brock

1096
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 5: party sitting there, and you've got Trey Lance, who you

1097
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 5: sold multiple first round picks for as your third string quarterback.

1098
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: This is like not a QB room, It's like a

1099
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 5: QB harem. And I am just wondering, like, is this

1100
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: an imbrulio like again, a sort of a sketchy and

1101
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 5: trick it and confusing interpersonal situation, or is it just

1102
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 5: another Niners off season and we don't need to worry

1103
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 5: about it because it's all going to figure itself out.

1104
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 2: Anybody that's listening to the show for any period of time,

1105
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: including my friend Gospel, who I met out to Mother's

1106
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: Day dinner last night, who is a huge fan of

1107
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: the show and had a lot of questions about things

1108
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes. Shout out, Shout out Gospel

1109
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: knows that I've been banging the table for Darnald getting

1110
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: a real chance in terms of good coaching, good players

1111
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 2: around him. I'm very excited and hopeful he does get

1112
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: that chance in San Francisco because I think he could

1113
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 2: do well. Because I think not to take down brock

1114
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: Party at all, but I really do think Kyle Shanahan

1115
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: and that's set up there is so good that if

1116
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: you can get a guy that is a professional, that

1117
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: knows the playbook, that can make quick reads and put

1118
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: a throw on the money with some accuracy. Shanahan went

1119
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: out of his went out of his way to say

1120
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: that he calls Sam Donald a unbelievable thrower of the football.

1121
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: I think he thinks he can do the offense the

1122
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: way brock Party did, and if he does, Donald's gonna

1123
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: probably hold onto that job for a while. But a

1124
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 2: lot has to happen still in terms of learning what's

1125
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: going on with Trey Lance and his finger, and of

1126
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 2: course Party and his elbow.

1127
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: I think the keyword you said there were quick reads.

1128
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 4: That's where Brock Purty aced the old S two test,

1129
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 4: and I think that's why Sam Donald is on his

1130
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: third team. He doesn't make quick reads, doesn't make quick decisions,

1131
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 4: he doesn't have the quarterback processing to this point, I

1132
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: think that's what's gotten in his way.

1133
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: But doesn't the other stuff factor in potentially into making

1134
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: quick decisions, whether it's line play.

1135
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you either have a natural sort of NFL

1136
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 4: quarterbacking ability in terms of and you can improve it. Certainly,

1137
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 4: Donald's young, but I don't think he has that at

1138
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 4: a levet like I think Purty as a rookie was

1139
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: already better than Donald's ever been. Now Kyle Shanahan's system,

1140
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, in that one trait, Kyle Shannon system

1141
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: is such that you have answers to the test, that

1142
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: every play you have open receivers, and that, Yeah, it

1143
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: wouldn't shock me to see Donald looking great.

1144
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: I did. I don't know. I just don't know how

1145
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: Trey Lance fits into all this.

1146
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 5: That's like you almost have to try to trade Trey

1147
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 5: Lance if you're sold that Donald can just be here.

1148
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: So the reporting out there now around Lance was that

1149
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: the finger injury from his first season led to a

1150
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: complication in his second season that was keeping him from

1151
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: throwing the ball the way he wants to, and apparently

1152
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: that's now corrected now that a lot of this is

1153
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: the classic spin that you hear every off season, like

1154
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: this thing that we used to be a problem is

1155
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: no longer a problem anymore. It sounds like a lot

1156
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: of excuses for a guy who's, you know, as much

1157
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 2: as we rightfully kill Zach Wilson for being a bust,

1158
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: like Trey Lance, taken right behind him, is done not

1159
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: much more, barely played.

1160
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: Barely played in the in the two years he's been

1161
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: in the league. So I don't know. I just don't

1162
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: know what kind of trade value he is right now.

1163
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 5: Not well, I think it would need to be, like,

1164
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 5: you know, a team with promise again lose is someone

1165
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 5: the same way that could have maybe traded Jimmy g

1166
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 5: a year ago and it didn't happen. There's no guarantee

1167
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 5: that there's a space for him anywhere.

1168
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: Weirdly, Walker has started in the mornings because for some reason,

1169
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 4: like it's allowed that he can watch some sports in

1170
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: the morning, you know, because he gets up so early,

1171
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: but not like regular TV. But he started going back

1172
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: and watching the season on game Pass and he had

1173
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: really he had Trey Lance's start up the other morning

1174
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 4: and I couldn't help watch it. And then I was like,

1175
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 4: and I know everyone's like I was in a rainstorm

1176
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 4: and it's one game. That's all true, but like he

1177
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: doesn't kind of like Darnold, he doesn't have the pocket

1178
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 4: presence and it was just one start, but he doesn't

1179
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: have the pocket presence where he like stays cool if

1180
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 4: there's anything going on around, and he just sort of

1181
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 4: freaks out.

1182
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 5: From one angle, there is something really beautiful about the

1183
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 5: way that Walker is uh just loving sports and really

1184
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 5: in many ways reminds me of what probably a young

1185
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 5: Greg would be. From another angle, I feel like it's

1186
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 5: like that old SI story on like Todd Morenovich's father,

1187
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 5: where like he's just being basically groomed to be an

1188
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 5: NFL dot com writer by age twelve or so.

1189
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: Well, d Game's up one day he's seventeen, He's like,

1190
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: what happened to my childhood?

1191
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 3: Exactly during Game seven.

1192
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 4: Of the Celtics who have tried to raise him as

1193
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: a big fan, we have been he's off watching NASCAR

1194
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 4: because he's more into that.

1195
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 3: Can't control him.

1196
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: All right, up next, Jay, Jay is for jubilation, Jay

1197
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: is for justice, Jay is for Jesus is real. This

1198
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: Commander's sale is gonna happen. You know how I know?

1199
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: It's on our website NFL dot com that the partnership

1200
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: led by Josh Harris, who co owns multiple professional sports teams,

1201
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: has entered into a purchase and sale agreement with the

1202
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: Washington Commander's owners Dan and Tanya Snyder to buy the franchise.

1203
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: The two sides announced on Friday. The agreement is subject

1204
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: to NFL approval by a vote of at least three

1205
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: fourths of the league's thirty two.

1206
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: Tween twenty four votes needed.

1207
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: And there's another report out there, Greggie that under ordinary circumstances,

1208
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: there are some questions about how many people are involved

1209
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: with the purchase of the team, Magic Johnson and a

1210
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: whole host of people that the NFL is not entirely

1211
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: comfortable with some pacifix of this new ownership group. However,

1212
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 2: they want to turn the page so badly that this

1213
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: Josh Harris group is in a great situation where the

1214
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: NFL is more willing to.

1215
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: Look past things.

1216
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: Maybe they ordinarily would not because it is time to

1217
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: give the commander's life again.

1218
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 4: Oh plus, he's playing six billion dollars for the team.

1219
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: Six billion, six point oh five billion.

1220
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: Panthers were what is U?

1221
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: Point oh five? By the way, what is that?

1222
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 5: Is that point oh five of a billion?

1223
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: So what is it?

1224
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: It's six like five hundred thousand, five hundred million, five

1225
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: hundred trillion, six billion, five hundred trillion dollars.

1226
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't get a thirty nine on a

1227
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 4: state manity test, but I didn't do that well.

1228
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but now we're both in the weeds on the

1229
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: same math equations? So what it all mean?

1230
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 4: And I'm not high enough to get this quickly? It

1231
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 4: really shouldn't be that hard.

1232
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 5: Saw three hundred thousand dollars?

1233
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: Oh really, I was pretty close.

1234
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 5: In fact, I'm not sure that's right, but I believe

1235
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 5: it is.

1236
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Six billion, three hundred thousd Such a weird.

1237
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: It's like such a weird uh like little add on

1238
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: there the three hundreds?

1239
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 3: I think.

1240
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just called again to go back to the roys.

1241
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 4: It seemed like he was fixated because there were reports

1242
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: that they were going to get more than six billion,

1243
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: and so this is more than six billion, and he

1244
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 4: made those reports control this.

1245
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 3: Is all great.

1246
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: It reminds me a little bit of you know, how

1247
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 4: we saw in the rookie mini camps this weekend that

1248
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 4: football is back.

1249
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: Like that.

1250
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: There's there's seventy five different moments that football is back,

1251
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 4: like I feel like there's already been three or four

1252
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: moments where the Commanders were sold, and there's still gotta

1253
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 4: be more because the owners actually have to officially vote

1254
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 4: on it and he has to officially become the owner,

1255
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 4: like Snyder is still the owner as of today. So well,

1256
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: we'll do a parade. And we've talked about it before.

1257
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 4: It is it's one of the most momentous things that

1258
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: happen since we've started doing this podcast. A franchise that

1259
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 4: has been all but destroyed and taken for great and

1260
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: just run into the ground that that has great fans

1261
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 4: is gonna have someone different running.

1262
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 3: It's it's amazing.

1263
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 5: It is terrible news, probably for Ron Rivera after essentially

1264
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 5: going in and doing you know, hazard taking hazard pay

1265
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 5: to run the place for multiple years. I think that

1266
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 5: everyone will be swept out.

1267
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: He's a smart guy though, so long though he's getting

1268
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: one more year.

1269
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: That's what I mean that he's this is not an

1270
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: ideal for him, as you know, winning a Super Bowl

1271
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: as a head coach. But he's yeah, by the way,

1272
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: I should just because games and he'll keep a job.

1273
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: It's a it's a obviously a big story with a

1274
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: lot of layers, so I should be a little more specific.

1275
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: It's the Washington Post that shares the opinion. This is

1276
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: via PFT from an unnamed person familiar with the sale process.

1277
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: Quote.

1278
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: If not for the other owner's strong desire to remove

1279
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: Snyder from the league, the harristeel probably would not have

1280
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: been approved without some revisions.

1281
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: One issue is.

1282
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: The raw size of the proposed group of limited partners.

1283
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: They each have to be properly vetted by the league.

1284
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: That will sl things down.

1285
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 5: I mean the Dolphins had like the Gloria Stepan and

1286
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 5: all those other people involved.

1287
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 4: That was they were just kind of like like.

1288
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 2: All the Williams sisters. Yeah, not just Serena and Venus,

1289
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: there's like fourteen others. They're just like they're all in

1290
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: come on in Urban Magic.

1291
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 4: Johnson is part of this group, and as he said, well,

1292
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: God really blessed him with an amazing sports week and

1293
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 4: the Lakers won. My Dodgers swept the Padres. He also

1294
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: owns the Dodgers, and I became an owner. He should

1295
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 4: have specified NFL owner. But I don't get the sense

1296
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 4: there's a lot of editing with his tweets in general. No,

1297
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 4: because he already wasn't magic man, he's doing it. What

1298
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 4: a ride for magic?

1299
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: Huh? I mean, if you're old enough to know the

1300
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: magic story, what a ride?

1301
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap it up.

1302
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: We got a couple more.

1303
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: Uh uh, Let's see.

1304
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: Kay Greg all right.

1305
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 4: Uh kay is for kinetic pertaining to motion caused by motion,

1306
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 4: and to me, that is the Miami Dolphins, like they

1307
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 4: are the pre snap movement before the snap, everything just

1308
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 4: looks in perfect harmony after the snap, like they are kinetic.

1309
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 4: And it reminds me of how when Kyle Shanahan has

1310
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 4: shown up to places like Atlanta, everyone's like, hey, you're two.

1311
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan's like Matt Ryan kind of struggled that first year,

1312
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: but that second year, that's when it really clicked in

1313
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 4: and the whole MVP thing happened. Mike McDaniel like laughed

1314
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 4: at that. He didn't need a year to set it up.

1315
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 4: He had it all coached so well from day one

1316
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: that they looked in perfect harmony. They have great continuity.

1317
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 4: We've talked about all the good things they've done on

1318
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 4: their defense, So I think they'll just be a better

1319
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 4: team because they're deep on defenseive better defensive coaching. But

1320
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: to me, this is his chance in Miami. You just

1321
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: don't know how many perfect chances you're gonna get. How

1322
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 4: long is Tyreek Hill going to be in his prime?

1323
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 4: Like everything is there right now. They have terrific continuity.

1324
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: They brought in Isaiah Win, which I thought was a

1325
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 4: smart signing over the weekend, a guy who's in my

1326
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: top fifty, who actually upgrades their tackle depth quite a bit.

1327
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 4: He might start for them, just give him a shot.

1328
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 4: He's had some good snaps. Its problematic, maybe, but he

1329
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 4: struggled the last couple of years and didn't really seem

1330
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 4: to be on, you know, on the straight and narrow.

1331
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 4: But he has some good NFL tape, which most people

1332
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 4: available now do not. I just to me, this offense

1333
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 4: is kinnectic. It's perfect. It's like, right now is the

1334
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 4: year for them to take off. There is a chance

1335
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 4: it'll happen.

1336
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 5: Really rough division. I mean their schedule, like when we say,

1337
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 5: like the Patriots schedule, it's like that. It's every one

1338
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 5: of these teams are dealing with the same thing. But

1339
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 5: every time before Mike McDaniel was hired, it was like,

1340
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 5: this is this guy, this is the guy behind Kyle

1341
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 5: Shanahan that's doing all these things. Like basically told Deebo

1342
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 5: Samuel in that final season before he went to the Dolphins,

1343
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 5: like if you let me, you know, when he was

1344
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 5: doing an immense amount of rushing and receiving, if you

1345
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 5: let me handle your career this year, I'll give you

1346
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 5: a year that makes you a ton of money. It's

1347
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 5: like he specializes in taking certain players and creating some

1348
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 5: of their finest seasons, which is what Kyle Shanahan did

1349
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 5: like in Houston and other places before he was a

1350
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 5: head coach himself. So I mean, there's nothing not to

1351
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 5: agree with here.

1352
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: And Mike McDaniel was there with Kyle at almost every

1353
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 4: step of the way. Sure, and if he is really

1354
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 4: the guy, not like the guy versus Kyle, but just

1355
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 4: like the next guy is like a true innovator. I

1356
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 4: just think it's set up for this season to potentially

1357
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 4: be really special offensively.

1358
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: You could tell me the Dolphins are playing in the

1359
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: AFC title game, and I believe you.

1360
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: Tell me that they finished last place in the AFC East,

1361
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: I would believe you equally.

1362
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 5: That's a vallat Old division.

1363
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then especially they do feel like and obviously

1364
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: the health of the quarterback is a major part of it.

1365
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 4: If Tua was healthy, I'd be shocked if if they're

1366
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 4: not good, but you know, I get shocked in this.

1367
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: And Mike White is a better backup, but still not

1368
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: an overly proven player himself who's had issues staying on

1369
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: the field at times. So there's a lot of variants there,

1370
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: but it's all on paper. It's all there.

1371
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: Kinetic, kinetic k l Mark.

1372
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 5: Here's another team that I'm annoyed at. L is for

1373
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 5: Luck Be Lady Tonight, sung once by Marlon Brando, sung

1374
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 5: by Frank Sinatra many times.

1375
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: That's what I always thought he was. It was canon,

1376
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: it was Frank.

1377
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 5: I mean it's from a play Guys and Dolls, And

1378
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 5: I believe Brando was that he was in the play.

1379
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 4: I didn't know that Batra took that in New York

1380
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 4: New York Song too and made his.

1381
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sinatra, absolute like it's weird. No, that was kind

1382
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 5: of thing, was I. No, one's sticking guys and dolls.

1383
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 5: I get that. I get that part, but I sort

1384
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 5: of just shove that in there. That's what the what

1385
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 5: the ettle voice on that Sinatra?

1386
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: Huh?

1387
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 5: He's a good singer. But I would ask you this,

1388
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 5: could you ever imagine Josh McDaniel's in a top hat

1389
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 5: and cane singing that song on the biggest stage of all? Well,

1390
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 5: me neither, because Elle's for the Las Vegas Raiders, who

1391
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 5: strike me slightly as an identity free in drifting franchise.

1392
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: It's spinning a little bit right now.

1393
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 5: I this is about the Raiders the biggest stage.

1394
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: So you're saying singing that song at the on the

1395
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: riser of the Super Bowl or like a stage like

1396
01:02:59,160 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: in Vegas.

1397
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 5: In this world, him singing like being the star of

1398
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 5: the show and singing would be him coaching the Raiders

1399
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl.

1400
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: So not even specifically singing that song, but just being as.

1401
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 5: It's a metaphor, it's like his time in the sun,

1402
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 5: and I'm not sure that time's coming. So this is

1403
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 5: a team that let me get this straight. I understand

1404
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 5: that maybe maybe not everything went your way, but you

1405
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 5: bench Derek Carr, you ship him out of town in

1406
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 5: a box. Then, after all this time, your quarterback is

1407
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 5: Jimmy g who's basically just a better looking Derek Carr.

1408
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 5: So it's it. I know that Raiders fans.

1409
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 3: That's actually David Carr.

1410
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 5: That's true too. Yeah, that's a little but I'm just

1411
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 5: comparing their playing ability, and like Raiders fans are always

1412
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 5: getting super defensive, hot and bothered over words against their team.

1413
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 5: But I'm going to ask you this right now, the

1414
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 5: Las Vegas Raiders. Are they better than the Bills? Are

1415
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 5: they better than the Jets? Are they better than the Dolphins?

1416
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 5: Are they better than the Patriots? Are they better than

1417
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 5: the Bengals? Are they better than the Race? Are they

1418
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 5: better than the Steelers? Are they better than the Browns?

1419
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 5: Are they better than the Jaguars? Are they better than

1420
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 5: the Chargers? Are they better than the Chiefs? Welcome to nothingness?

1421
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 4: Oh my god, we definitely got a dark Overnight Sessler vision.

1422
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 5: I was surprised when I looked up and down the AFC,

1423
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 5: because my answer to every one of those is either

1424
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 5: definitely or very likely.

1425
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: No.

1426
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you skipped the AFC South, and yeah, so

1427
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 4: you left out a few teams. But if your point

1428
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 4: is going into the season on paper, they're probably like

1429
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 4: twelfth in the AFC or whatever that list would have

1430
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 4: come out to twelve thirteenth. Yeah, I mean, I guess

1431
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 4: I can't argue with you. The crazy thing is I

1432
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 4: look at their roster. I'm doing the projected starters and like,

1433
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 4: I'm shocked they kept the offensive line the same and

1434
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 4: they definitely got a lot of questions on defense. But like,

1435
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 4: I just look at that roster over on I'm like, Eh,

1436
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 4: that's a six or seven win team, but you're right

1437
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: in the AFC that might not be enough to even

1438
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 4: win four or five.

1439
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 3: You know, it could be tough.

1440
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you're saying that, Like it's that old.

1441
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: If you're not competing for the Super Bowl, what are

1442
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: you even doing?

1443
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: Like if you're investing money in big time veterans like

1444
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: Devonte Adams, making a big splash for Jimmy g and

1445
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: all that, if you're not actually in contention, is this

1446
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: the right way to be running a team?

1447
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: So that I get that. So, if you're a Raiders fan,

1448
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: do you think you're gonna win the Super Bowl this year? No,

1449
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: you're probably not. But do they also are they so

1450
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: bad that they're like one of the like the Cardinals

1451
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 2: fans are feeling this year that like, why are we

1452
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 2: even a lot of Cardinals plan year? Yeah, but I'm

1453
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: just saying in terms of, like we're looking ahead to this.

1454
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 5: The Cardinals like essentially like a massive haul of draft

1455
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 5: picks and they're using this.

1456
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: They're tanking this. Yeah.

1457
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: So like so then it becomes like, what as a

1458
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: fan would you rather have? You would you rather have

1459
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: an organization like the Cardinals since you mentioned them that

1460
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: or I mentioned them that completely has cashed in on

1461
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: an entire season and they're tolling a year forward. Or

1462
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 2: do you want to have the organization that might not

1463
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: be running at a high level and super Bowl level,

1464
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: but they're trying and they're gonna hopefully hang around in

1465
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: the wild card race and maybe they'll win a couple

1466
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 2: of games that they lost last year and at the

1467
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: end of the season they're nine to eight or maybe

1468
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: they squeeze out of ten and seven and surprise some people.

1469
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: I think that's within the range of outcomes for the Raiders.

1470
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 5: It is. I don't think the Raiders when they came

1471
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 5: into existence were branded on mediocrity.

1472
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: I get that, I get all that, but that's a

1473
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: long time ago. Now, the Al Davis Raiders and all that.

1474
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, when I think about truly kind

1475
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: of depressing setups in the league, I'm not quite on

1476
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: the same page as you. I know you're you're more

1477
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: kind of I'm not a Josh McDaniels fan, but this

1478
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: is not new. You do not believe in the McDaniels

1479
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: experience in general.

1480
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 3: Is I want to like, you know, I'm not trying to.

1481
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 5: I think they are a little like whispers and anecdotes,

1482
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 5: and there's past stops at when he's the top person

1483
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 5: that leave me a little concerned. And I don't think

1484
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 5: all that's completely out of the wash right now.

1485
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 4: I'm more concerned about Patrick Grahm, their defensive coordinator, and

1486
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 4: that Rothter on defense, and if they're just one of

1487
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 4: the worst defenses in the league, they're not gonna be

1488
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 4: good enough offensively to make up for it. I do

1489
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 4: think Josh McDaniel's trying to stack his offense as much

1490
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 4: as he can to make himself and that's not a

1491
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 4: bad way to go to make the offense look good,

1492
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 4: and it could Adams, Jacobe Myers, Renfro, Michael Mayer, Josh Jacobs.

1493
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 4: That's a pretty good group around Jimmy g if you

1494
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 4: can keep a healthy But like I said, I was

1495
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 4: shocked they just kept the same offensive line.

1496
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 3: That was very strange.

1497
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: All right, last one here we go, right, yeah, yeah,

1498
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 2: Amas for money, money, money, give it to me. As

1499
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: Missus Miller once said, money makes the world go round.

1500
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: Quinn Williams wants it. He wants it all. And how

1501
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: annoying is it that you know a guy that deserves

1502
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: all the money. You're starting to think, oh no, it's

1503
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 2: just turning into another one of those things for the Jets.

1504
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: Because Williams, who said months ago, hey give me a

1505
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: new long term deal that pays me at the top

1506
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,959
Speaker 2: of the market, that reflects that I'm an all pro

1507
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: player that is one of the top defensive ends in

1508
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: the league.

1509
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: Take care of me.

1510
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: And then what does he do trope alert he scrubs

1511
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 2: the Jets from his bio It now says, I don't

1512
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,919
Speaker 2: know if it's changed since now, but defensive line.

1513
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: For that, I think it's a question mark. Question mark,

1514
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: question mark.

1515
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: And I know this is all posturing and all of it,

1516
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: but you can go back for years as far back

1517
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: as like Keishawn Johnson, Darrell Reeves, Jamal Adams. The Jets

1518
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 2: have an issue paying guys they don't that they draft

1519
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 2: and then giving him that second contract even when they

1520
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 2: deserve it. Do not do that with this guy. This

1521
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: guy is a foundational piece. Don't turn this into an

1522
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 2: off season of are the Jets going to trade Quinn?

1523
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: Just pay the man, Dexter Lawrence just got a ton

1524
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: of gwop. Give him the deal, a better deal than that,

1525
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Speaker 2: and move on. Okay, And I know you got a

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: lot of this stuff going on. You're reworking the Aaron

1527
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 2: Rodgers contract, but do not turn this into an issue

1528
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: because I'm just I'm kind of tired of it. It's

1529
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: hard to develop a superstar when you have it. Keep

1530
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: the guy in the building if he's a guy you

1531
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: trust and believe it.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting that you, you know, brought up Leonard Williams,

1533
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 5: not not intentionally, but like that's another it seemed to

1534
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 5: be I feel like in the time that we've worked

1535
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 5: together four or five like probo all pro caliber defensive

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01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 5: lineman that the Jets have not been able to hang

1537
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 5: with who've gone on to play elsewhere and been productive.

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01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 5: And it's like there's so much hanging onto the Jets

1539
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 5: this season, and it's like they are under an immense

1540
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 5: amount of pressure and like, no matter what Aaron Rodgers

1541
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 5: are not, Like, what you really believe in on that

1542
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 5: team is the defense. And Quenta Williams, like what he

1543
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 5: did last season, is that guy for the Jets. And

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 5: it's like you can't go on this journey and into

1545
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 5: Week one with him anywhere else but on your roster.

1546
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 5: But I do trust Joe Douglas to figure it out

1547
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 5: because I feel like we're in this world where like

1548
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 5: you can find a way to pay anyone. I think

1549
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 5: we'll be were with Deebo Samuel or year ago. You

1550
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 5: can find a way to pay every one of these people.

1551
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Speaker 1: Don't let it spiral.

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01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't talk about the Dexter Lawrence signing where

1553
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 4: Lawrence got sixty million guaranteed on a four year deal.

1554
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 4: Lawrence played so well late last year it was really

1555
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 4: their best player overall, I would say at the at

1556
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 4: the end of last year, and yeah, Quentnin Williams, he's

1557
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 4: not being subtle about it. I think it's just a

1558
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 4: normal part of the process. He probably, I would guess,

1559
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 4: will get paid. It will be this offseason. I think

1560
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 4: at some point you might have to go through some

1561
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 4: annoying stories. But yeah, it says defensive tackle for which

1562
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 4: is a lot of dots. And the last the last

1563
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 4: tweet that he retweeted was Dexter Lawrence's contract and one

1564
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 4: of the last things he liked on Twitter was from

1565
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,799
Speaker 4: kid from Queen's Three who said, stop f and around

1566
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 4: and sign Q since you want to post him an

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01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 4: S word as the quote retweeting a Jets tweet which

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 4: which included Quentin Waie. So I think Quinn is letting

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01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: everyone know how he.

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Speaker 1: How about this? Quinn like, you know, you don't need

1571
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: an agent for this. Just do the Lamard thing. Go

1572
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: take the Dexter Lawrence contract, turn it over to the

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01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: Jets and say add ten million to this and let's

1574
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: go and see what Joe says.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it makes it might be tough

1576
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 4: because I don't know Dexter Lawrence at least had a

1577
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 4: better year last year.

1578
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 5: It makes sense to scrub all your social at this point.

1579
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 5: I think you just do it and you know we're

1580
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 5: talking about it because that's a notable thing.

1581
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: Add point oh five that works or billions.

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01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 4: Quinn's more of a pass us anyways, and a better

1583
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 4: player for what it's worth, I think than Leonard point five.

1584
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna get it done. I don't think

1585
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 5: he's gonna mushro him into it.

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01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: Total, he's better than Leonard Williams. He's better than Sheldon Richardson.

1588
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: He is much closer to like a revis talent in

1589
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: my opinion that Reeves is a Hall of Famer actually,

1590
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: so maybe somewhere in between those two.

1591
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: Just don't create another distraction. Right. That's part one of

1592
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: the glossary. A to Z.

1593
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Thursday with the great Colleen Wolf,

1594
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: who's going to help us out for part two.

1595
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: Good to have Connie around, good to have anybody around

1596
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: these days.

1597
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:21,480
Speaker 4: Final thoughts, just want to say, I, you know, sometimes

1598
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 4: use jokes to show my affection, and sometimes they're little jabs.

1599
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 3: It's part of how I grew up.

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01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 4: And so my mention of your jean jacket, you know,

1601
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 4: back at our dinner and even even as you take

1602
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 4: it's a sign of appreciation.

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01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 5: I Greg at this point, I feel really comfortable with

1604
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 5: what you've said, and I appreciate your appreciation, and I

1605
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 5: also enjoy your wardrobe.

1606
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: And to everybody behind the glass, if you want to

1607
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: get a still of me, I could even sit still,

1608
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,799
Speaker 2: and if you could just photoshop both of the gentlemen

1609
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: on each shoulder black and white, devil an Angel, I mean,

1610
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: that's just that's cold.

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 4: I mean, in that right there, what you did was

1612
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 4: just an advertisement. You got to check out the YouTube

1613
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 4: to see the facial expression, the character work that uh

1614
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 4: Hansas is doing over a regular Kieren Colcin over here.

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: Kieran Colkin, I love that, dude. I love the Roman.

1616
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: Roy is a tough character. Man. What spoiler alert.

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01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 5: Verple skills.

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Speaker 1: Need the call hing a, the own