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Speaker 1: From the RAMS Studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to an extra special festive edition of Between the Horns.

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Speaker 1: I am Miles Simmons with me DeMarco far. Yes, if

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Speaker 1: you're watching this online, you can see I've got on

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Speaker 1: a Santa hat. Like we've got the fireplace going over

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Speaker 1: here on the TV. We've got stockings on the TV,

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Speaker 1: which is the fireplace, not really the TV. But it

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Speaker 1: looks really cool, doesn't it. It does look really cool,

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Speaker 1: And I'm really digging the hat. Yeah, I love the hat.

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Speaker 1: Working for you, I do. Yeah, the Santa hat. Like again,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, you cannot see that I

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Speaker 1: have on Santa Miles. Yeah, it's the Santa hat. It's

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Speaker 1: like a standard, you know, up run of the Mills

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Speaker 1: Santa hat. But also I've got on my turtleneck sweater,

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Speaker 1: which I'm really feeling. And I've also got on in

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Speaker 1: southern California, a vest. Yeah. Well, because it's okay, it

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Speaker 1: never gets that cold. So if you're all right, this

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Speaker 1: is funny, we can we can keep going here. So

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Speaker 1: what's going on behind DeMarco right now is that there's

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Speaker 1: a fireplace thing and so on the TV we're just

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Speaker 1: going to keep going having that goody Yeah it'dah. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: as that gets back on, um, let's just start talking football.

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Speaker 1: Ho ho ho. Come on now, ho ho ho. That's

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Speaker 1: all we got. Come on, say give me something, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Right if you wear the hat you got to bring

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Speaker 1: all right? All right? Okay, So anyway, as we we've

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Speaker 1: been gone for a little while, so, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: a lot has happened in the time. Yeah, um that

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Speaker 1: we have not been doing a podcast. So defar your

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Speaker 1: initial reaction to the Brams. Moving on from Jeff, where

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Speaker 1: did we leave off on the podcast? We left off

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Speaker 1: really it was after the New England game. After New England,

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Speaker 1: so we didn't even talk about Atlanta, no, and how

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Speaker 1: that that disaster in the Colosseum costs Jeff Fisher's job.

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Speaker 1: We talked about all the the stuff, the distractions, and

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Speaker 1: maybe that would start filtering down to player performance. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what we saw in the coliseum versus Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Sure ultimately cost Jeff fish or his job. So here

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Speaker 1: we are with bones fossil as the head coach lost

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night in Seattle. Another chance to get it right,

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Speaker 1: couldn't get it done. So you've got two left. Um,

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Speaker 1: so here you are trying to figure out what type

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Speaker 1: of team you have left, not what type of team

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Speaker 1: you are. I think we know that that's an interesting

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Speaker 1: way to put what type of team you have left. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's two more opportunities to play, two more games to play. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know you're trying to good put good tape out

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Speaker 1: there for whoever is going to be your head coach.

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Speaker 1: So two more opportunities. That's that's where you are. Never

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Speaker 1: been here before as a player, never had an interim

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Speaker 1: head coach in life. Yeah, seeing it as a broadcaster twice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about that too. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's tough on the players because you have to

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Speaker 1: earn it all over again. Whatever equity and credit you've

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Speaker 1: built up with the outgoing coach, you're going to have

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Speaker 1: to earn all over again. So it definitely benefits the

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Speaker 1: younger guys versus the older guys. Yes, being in this

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Speaker 1: situation now sure, And I think one of the things

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Speaker 1: that we're going to see is some younger guys get

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Speaker 1: to play more. I think you know we've talked about

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Speaker 1: Sean mannon getting to go up to number two this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am too. I think that's gonna be good opportunity

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Speaker 1: for him. But other guys like a Tyler Higbee, a

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Speaker 1: So what is it about having to go ahead? I

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Speaker 1: hope Tyler Higbee, if he gets extended reps, actually does

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Speaker 1: that's why you're not playing. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely all these rookies, Pharrell Cooper, a guy that's been

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Speaker 1: I hope you're ready to live up to the expectation. Well,

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Speaker 1: and that's one thing I don't know that he has.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in his limited reps, we've seen him drop

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Speaker 1: he might have dropped one in seattles and an epidemic

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Speaker 1: on this team, it really is an epidemic. And there

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Speaker 1: the leadership changes definitely, because I mean there were some

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Speaker 1: Maybe a guy that has been talking all year has

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious to see what type of team

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Speaker 1: I mean this, this is what happens when you have

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Speaker 1: you've heard these old scenes before. The blind squirrel finds

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Speaker 1: a nut, broken clock is right twice a day. Yes, eventually,

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Speaker 1: you know, every offense in the National Football League is

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Speaker 1: going to click. Maybe it happens this week versus this opponent.

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Speaker 1: But this is the type of stuff, these weird sort

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Speaker 1: these type of things happens when you have these type

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Speaker 1: of coaching changes. Yeah, not to sort of rehash the

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Speaker 1: old hash at this point, but did the timing of

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Speaker 1: the move surprise you at all? No? After Atlanta, I

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Speaker 1: mean you saw it. Yeah, the biggest ovation of the

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Speaker 1: day was from a streaker that almost got away from

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Speaker 1: but I remember they're the same group the same. Well,

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Speaker 1: streakers and idiots on field are the same. They are

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Speaker 1: An on field intruder. An on field intruder, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest ovation you had of the day. It

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Speaker 1: and they got down forty two to zero in that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: start seeing stuff like NFL history since twenty eleven, that's bad.

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Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah, yeah, no one did.

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Speaker 1: It hadn't come up because no one had been down

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Speaker 1: forty two to nothing since two Yeah. I mean leaving

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Speaker 1: And I guess it was just the timing of it,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a perfect scenario. If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: They handled a short week better than you, and they

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Speaker 1: Looked like New England all over again, kind of did

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Speaker 1: mean I think it was probably over before that, even

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Speaker 1: before these stupid fake punt by Seattle. I'm so glad

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Speaker 1: go into the playoffs with a backup punter. That was.

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Speaker 1: that was that pump the football. Come on, yeh be smart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But besides all that, there are a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: and most of those people are still showing up at

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Speaker 1: the coliseum. Yeah, you've got two left there to at

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Speaker 1: least erase some bad memories. Do you really think that

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Speaker 1: like wins can erase bad memories? Though? I meant at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, the coach is still dismissed.

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Speaker 1: If you send them home happy, they're still going home happy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: at least once. Yeah, and if you can send them

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Speaker 1: home happy twice, that that stuff matters. It counts. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to keep this group together.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be changeover and the locker is going to

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Speaker 1: be changed over, no doubt. But for the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: be nice. Let's see some tds in the calls. Sam,

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Speaker 1: So let's kind of turn into this coaching search. What

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Speaker 1: are some general characteristics that you would like to see

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Speaker 1: We're gonna sit down. I'm gonna wipe the grease board

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Speaker 1: But I mean to me, this is what you want.

423
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 1: Football hasn't been back in socall in over twenty years.

424
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 1: They're dying for a winner. Give them one, you're a god. Yeah,

425
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 1: that would intrigue me. Yeah, I think it would. In

426
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 1: trust people. I mean not only that, but just the

427
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 1: situation that the Rams are in and that they have

428
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 1: young offensive players that can be developed. You know, we

429
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 1: talk about dudes. Well, I think Todd Gurley, we've proven

430
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: that he is a dude. Right, You've got Jared was well, yeah, yeah,

431
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he's still searching, he is, right,

432
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: He's probably not going to reach a thousand yards this year,

433
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 1: and that's an issue, right, this perception and then there's

434
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: your resume. It's really out there and you have to

435
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 1: deal with reality at some point. Well, what did Bill

436
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: Parcel say? You are what you are? Right? Yeah, and

437
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: right now, Todd Gurley is kind of an average running

438
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: back this year and I have a lot of commercials. Yeah,

439
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, I mean that's that's not just a product

440
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 1: of him. I mean it's a product of what's around him.

441
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 1: The offensive line has not been run blocking well for him.

442
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,959
Speaker 1: I think that that's fair to say. And I think

443
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 1: but at a certain point, man, you'd just you want

444
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: to see him break off run. He's not had to

445
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: run longer than I think twenty five yards this year.

446
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 1: You know what, if you can go back and erase

447
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: like all the negatives from the offense, if you a

448
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: race just the drops, I'd bet he'd be over a

449
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: thousand yards. Really, you'd be on the field longer. Yeah,

450
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: he means he gets more carries, you get more cracks

451
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: at the defense. Eventually he's going to find the whole.

452
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: That's the difference between him and a lot of other

453
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: running backs, is he doesn't get many opportunities. This is true,

454
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: especially the last month. Well yeah, because the rams have

455
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: been down and then you gotta start paying. The name

456
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: is null and void. Yeah, but I mean if if

457
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: you complete three or more third down passes and you

458
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: keep the offense on the field, he gets more carries exactly,

459
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 1: probably has more touchdowns. That's the only difference. Um, Now,

460
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: can he do some things better? Absolutely? Can the old

461
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: line do some things better? Absolutely? Can the entire offense

462
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: as a whole be better, sure? Absolutely? Will it help

463
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: his numbers? Probably, But there's talent. We've seen it. And

464
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: I think the next thing about Jared Goff, right, I

465
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: mean you you kind of brought this up before. You're

466
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Speaker 1: going to have kind of two quarterbacks that are going

467
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: to be under contract. I think it's kind of safe

468
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: to assume the case Keenum probably won't not be back

469
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: next year. I mean, he's playing on this one year

470
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 1: tender that he got from being the restricted free agent. Um.

471
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: But now you go into ding stop. Its just not

472
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: enough with the Browns talk. Okay, we're ahead. Yeah, we're

473
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: sticking with sticking with what's in southern California any way. Um,

474
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 1: but yeah, you've got a situation now with you with

475
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: your two quarterbacks. Yeah, and I think it's not necessarily

476
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: going to be important for the head coach the next

477
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: head coach to have extensive experience in developing a quarterback.

478
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: But somebody's got to be on this staff that does. Right. So,

479
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: whether you hire a defensive guy and you say, okay, well,

480
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 1: defensive guy, what is your plan for developing the quarterback,

481
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: or it's the offensive guy and you say, okay, we

482
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: know that you've been able to do this in the past,

483
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: show us how you're going to do it. There's just

484
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: gotta be a plan for developing that position because of

485
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 1: what you've invested in it. I would say, break him

486
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: down for me, tell me what you think and what

487
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: you want to try to do with him, and then

488
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: develop him in that direction. If you are a quote

489
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: unquote defensive type guy, then who you're bringing in right

490
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: quarterback coach? Who's your offensive coordinator? YadA, yad, YadA. I'm

491
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: sure you're going to interview people here or talk to

492
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: people here, but whoever comes in is going to have

493
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: to have a plan for Jared Goff in his development.

494
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: And I think you're getting them at a pretty good time.

495
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: Because he's got some experience. He's been out there, he's

496
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: been in Seattle, he's had his butt handed to him

497
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: in New England, the quarterbacks he's faced, you know, down

498
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: the stretch. Right now, he's been knocked out of a game.

499
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: So there's a lot that he's learning and he's gonna

500
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: come back and play. So I think you're getting them

501
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: at a good time. I think you're getting a lot

502
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: of these guys on offense at a good time to

503
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: where you can train out some bad habits and instill

504
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: some good habits in this offense. And like you said,

505
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: you can turn the thirty second ranked offense into a

506
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: top ten offense with just a great plan. How about

507
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: this defense though, because I mean, obviously we've spent a

508
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: lot of time talking about the offense because that's been

509
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: the issue this season obviously. Um, but when you have

510
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: guys on defense, and you've got guys that are in

511
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: free agent years like TJ. McDonald, like a Truemain Johnson,

512
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: those guys are dudes. But you still have guys who

513
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: are party I think, part of a pretty good young

514
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: core like and Aaron Donald, like a Michael Brocker's that

515
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: you can still kind of build around on that. Well,

516
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: ninety nine isn't going anywhere never. That's like Johnny Hecker.

517
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: These two guys will, you know, probably retire together in

518
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: a RAMS universe. Shout out to both of them for

519
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: making it to the Pro Bowl. Yeah again, yeah again

520
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: to have some company. But for now it's just them.

521
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: But you know absolutely. Um, just speaking of the defense

522
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: and TJ McDonald in particular, right, I love TJ. I

523
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: love what he brings. Um, he's one of the better

524
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: strong safeties. I agree kind of in the Cam Chancellor

525
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: mode doesn't care who he hits exactly. You probably need

526
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: a center field safety, I would agree to say. I

527
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: think it's pretty fair. Okay, I think I'll say this.

528
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: Maurice Alexander, I think has done a decent job over

529
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: the rest of this over the course of the season,

530
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: probably better than I would have expected. After. You know,

531
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: if you lose the TJ, you're happy with Amoy Alexander

532
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: probably are. Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you there. Um, what

533
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: do you do with a Mark Barron? That's a really

534
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: good question. Um, if you keep TJ and you want

535
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: to slide Mark back to strong, new coach says, I

536
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: want to slide him back to strong safety. Yeah, bring

537
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: in another linebacker? Well, then what do you do with TJ? If? Yeah,

538
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: if you're if your new coach, say, wants to start

539
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: running the three four like that, that's gonna be really,

540
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,239
Speaker 1: really tough with the personnel that the Rams currently have,

541
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: because let's be they've got like one or two pure

542
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: linebackers on the team. I mean, we've talked about this before.

543
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: You've got Mark Barron basically a safety playing linebacker, alec

544
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: Ogletria converted safety playing linebackers. So how would that translate?

545
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: We don't know right well, I mean you could keep

546
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: status quo there if you wanted. I think, yeah, you

547
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: could if you wanted to. But I mean there are

548
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: some decisions you have to make defensively, but as long

549
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: as you keep offense around your core, meaning ninety nine

550
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: ninety have the gut YEA. And Robert Quinn, who I

551
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: really like and I'm disappointed, has been out the last

552
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yeah, you don't have anything to replicate

553
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: what he gives you. Anybody else on this football team

554
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: that gets knocked out due to injury or what have you,

555
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: I think you can reasonably replicate. Okay, fair except for him,

556
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: you can't. Yeah, and if Donald was out the same thing,

557
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: you can't get that, right. Um, there aren't There aren't

558
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: many beautiful pass rushers on this team. I mean really, Um,

559
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: it's almost to an art form the well in the league,

560
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: right exactly. There are not that many people who have

561
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: a lot of guys yeah that can get to you. Yeah,

562
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: but there aren't that many who have the ability to

563
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: do what Robert Quinn can do in the way he

564
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: does it. You know, when he is healthy and when

565
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: he is right, it's it's funny. Like the best pass

566
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: rushers throughout history, especially at that position. Um, it's when

567
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: you can look at him, know what move is coming

568
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: and they still hit it. Yeah, like Dwight Freeney way

569
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: back when you know the spin moves coming and he

570
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: still gets you. Hey man, he'll still get you sometimes. Right,

571
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is going to put his right foot in

572
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: the ground at three and a half in turn and

573
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: you can't stop him. Now you can't. Yeah, that's that good.

574
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: They hold them basically every play, every snap. They don't

575
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: call it, which I find, you know, incessantly. And the

576
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: shocking thing is when you consider how young he is,

577
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: because it seems like he's been in the league for

578
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: ten years already. Yeah. Yeah, all right, so we'll we'll

579
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: we'll continue to talk more about the coaching search and

580
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: all the things that we want to see in the

581
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: next head coach, and hey, maybe some rumors and things

582
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: like that as the offseason begins to hit. So it

583
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: make sure you know you stay tuned to the Rams

584
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: dot com and the Between the Horns podcast before that

585
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But let's turn it now to Niners Week. Yeah,

586
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: what does Niners Week mean to you? It used to

587
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: mean a lot. Yeah, um it did. It meant Payne

588
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: and meant get back. It meant um, they were somewhere

589
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: you want it to be, and then vice versa. Well,

590
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: because let's it's better like this. I mean, you came

591
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: into the Rams, you know what ninety four ye right, Yeah,

592
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: So that's basically when the Niners were in the beginnings

593
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: or sort of the middle, I guess of their seventeen

594
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: game winning street they were rolling over the Rams. Yes,

595
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: and you guys not break that until nineteen ninety nine. Yes,

596
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: I think they'd been to two Super Bowls before and

597
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: then they had gone to another one while I was

598
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: in the league. So they were dominant. They were the team. Um,

599
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: so it was always a big deal if you wanted

600
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: to step up in class. Yeah, it's when you had them.

601
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Um it's a little bit different now because you know,

602
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: both franchises are kind of struggling here. But I think

603
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: the rivalry still holes. I mean, the colors don't even match.

604
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: The colors hate each other. Look, I mean just complete opposites.

605
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: You know, we've got we've got the Niners logo and

606
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: the Rams logo behind us, and they I know, I know, Yeah,

607
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: you got the red and the gold, and you got

608
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: the blue and the yellow. Yeah, they just don't like

609
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: each other. And that's just the way it is. So

610
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: that's that's what I see. And I'm sure, I'm sure

611
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: a lot of old Southern California Rams fans, yeah know

612
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: what I mean about Niners week Yeah, because it's San

613
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: Francisco versus La. I mean even when even Week one,

614
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, we were up there in Monday night football,

615
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: remember the crowd channing bat La bat lay. Yeah, So

616
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: that that rivalry does mean something, even not just between

617
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: the city, between the two franchises and things like that.

618
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's I mean, it's like living in the

619
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Bay Area. And when I see one hundred year old

620
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: Niner fans, they still love drilling the ram. I'm serious

621
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: when they talk about when we talk about something bad

622
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: happening to La, they still smile. Yeah, it's just come on, man,

623
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: let it go. Grampall. Think back to ninety nine. I mean,

624
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: what was it like when you guys got that wins

625
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: um One of the best feelings of my life. Yeah. Yeah,

626
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: finally looking up and seeing like Steve Young, Jerry, Rice

627
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: and all these tormentors of of of our football team

628
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: walking off and we had more points than they did.

629
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: And this is not just a one off. This is

630
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: going to happen the next time and the next time

631
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: and the next time. And we knew it and they

632
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: know it. Oh, It's one of the best things ever.

633
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: It's one of those It's one of these classic rivalries

634
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: that I don't think gets talked about as much anymore

635
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: because these two franchises have kind of been up and down,

636
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, at different times, especially over the last two decks.

637
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess since my lifetime. You know, it's

638
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: a shame both turned south. But yeah, I mean, at

639
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: one point San Francisco was the class of the league. Yeah. Well,

640
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: I mean you could say the same thing about the

641
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: Rams in the seventies. I mean they had a ten

642
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: game winning streak I believe over the Niners in that

643
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: time too. So that's why this series it's really even.

644
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: At sixty seven, sixty four and one, the Niners are

645
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: up those three games. So I think once these two

646
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: teams get back to where they want to be, you know,

647
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: and they become the class of the NFC West, we're

648
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: really going to see this rivalry get renewed to the

649
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: place where it really should be an NFL history. Oh yeah,

650
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: I think Southern California. Southern California football is gonna pop

651
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: when both teams are going, oh yeah, when San Francisco

652
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: has a squad and the LA Rams have a squad

653
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: and this game becomes must TV, that's when it starts

654
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: to pop. Hopefully it starts before where the stadium is open. Yeah,

655
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: but when the new stadium is open, it must be going, yeah,

656
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: at full steam. Honestly, and this is going to sound ridiculous,

657
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: but I think that when this Robberry is right, it's

658
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: probably on the level of a Pittsburgh Baltimore, on the

659
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: level yea the Green Bay Minnesota's in. Yeah, except they

660
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: don't bring like clubs and baseball bats to the game. No,

661
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's wine and cheese, you know, Ben's and Beamers.

662
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: But the hate is still real. That's good, all right. So,

663
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: because you know we got this rivalry going on, do

664
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: we feel bad that they're one in thirteen? No? Not? Well, yes,

665
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: from one perspective. Who's the one? The one is Yes,

666
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: they've lost every other game except when they played you.

667
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: How tough do you think that? I don't care. I

668
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: don't care how tough it's been on them. Yeah, just

669
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: from a perspective of I mean, I know the Browns

670
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: are in fourteen, right, Yeah, but couldn't as gracious to

671
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: win one game and then go like, there's a one

672
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: win team in the National Football League and you gave

673
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: them the win, not only that they shut you out. Yeah,

674
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: on national teav you know it's coming off hard knocks.

675
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: Fossil put it this way, like they kicked our butts

676
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: when we went up there, and so that's a nice

677
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: way to put it. Yeah, Blaine Gabbert looked like a

678
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: pro bowler. You know what's funny. I mean, you go

679
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: back to week seventeen, of the twenty fifteen season and

680
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: those two games. If Blaine Gabbert just put that on

681
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: film and like played like that for the rest of

682
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: his career, he'd be in the mall. Yeah, Houston, Texans

683
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: witham seventy two million bucks. Yeah right, shout out to Savage, Yeah, man,

684
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's one of those things I think

685
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: where you know, we talked about it kind of this

686
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: week on other platforms where you've got now this one

687
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: and thirteen team, you got a four and ten team. Yeah,

688
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: kind of what is there to play for? You're playing? Yeah,

689
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: you're playing for your jobs. Yeah. I don't know what

690
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly's job status is, but I know here, um,

691
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: and this is as real as I can put it.

692
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: Your next head coach is watching you, Yes, and you

693
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: don't know who it is. Yes, he doesn't know who

694
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: he is yet. Santa Claus is watching. He's watching, and

695
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: when he watches tape of the LA Rams, both sides

696
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: of the ball and special teams, he's going to do

697
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: it in a dark room with no sound, without perspective.

698
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: All he's watching is how you perform, right, That's it.

699
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: That goes back to what you're saying earlier about wiping

700
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: the grease board cleaning. You know, there's no alliances, there's

701
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: no ties to different players and the emotional connections and

702
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: things like that. This guy, whoever it is, is going

703
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: to come in and they're going to want to implement

704
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: their system and whatever, and so because of that, you've

705
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: got to put out be able to go out there

706
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: and put your best effort on film. Yeah, it could

707
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: be from right now. It could be a no, I

708
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: don't want this guy coming back. You've got two weeks

709
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: to change that. Yeah, and vice versa. Oh that's a

710
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: sure thing. Well, you've got two weeks to change his mind.

711
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: So finishing strong in this situation is huge because everybody's watching. Yeah,

712
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean, so let's talk about Colin Kaepernick a little bit. Um,

713
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: what does he do because he's the quarterback? No? Yeah, okay, fine,

714
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: Well why don't you want to talk about Colin Kaepernick?

715
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: Do I need to tell you? I mean, I know

716
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: he's not been doing that well, but he still can

717
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: he can do some things. Yeah, he's had some up

718
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: games Like there's one um where he had three hundred

719
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: and ninety eight passing yards against the New Orleans Saints.

720
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: They lost and then he had two hundred ninety six

721
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: and one hundred on the ground against the Dolphins. They lost,

722
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: So I mean there are things that he's been doing well.

723
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: He also had five passing yards against the Bears, No.

724
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: Four passing yards on five passing attempts, one completed, and

725
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: they lost. So I mean there's just yeah, right, yeah,

726
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: that is He's always dangerous exactly. That's why I talk

727
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: about Kaepernick is dangerous. Carlos Hide is dangerous. Um. You know,

728
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: they can run the ball. He can run the football. Um,

729
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: when Kaepernick makes the right choice with the ball and

730
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: gets the ball out, I mean, they can hurt you

731
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: down the field. They can, and when he makes the

732
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: right choice, when he makes the right choice. And the

733
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: thing is that offense is difficult to stop because by

734
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: its design and the more success they have, the faster

735
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna go, Yeah, which means they're gonna wear you out.

736
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: So but there's a lot of data, especially with Kaepernick

737
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: in that offense right now at this point in the season.

738
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: So I'm sure Greg Williams or any defensive coordinator I

739
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: saw Atlanta look like world beaters against them, Yeah, I did,

740
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: just last week. So there's a lot of ways to

741
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: slow them down and disrupt, and I think the Rams

742
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: can do a lot of that. If Atlanta can go

743
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: out there within the first nine plays, you know, two

744
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: three and outs and a takeaway, and then Matt Ryan

745
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: does what he does and you're up twenty one points

746
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: in a quarter. Yeah, I'm sure the Rams defense can

747
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: do something similar. Well. What's interesting too, is that because

748
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: that offense runs so quickly, I think it has a

749
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: tendency to kind of wear on the other side of

750
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: the ball. And I think we saw this a little

751
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: bit in Philadelphia too, when Chip Kelly was there. You know,

752
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: that time of possession number gets so low. I think

753
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: they held the ball up for like twenty two minutes

754
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: or something like that against Atlanta last week, and so hey,

755
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: that's an opportunity for the Rams to then get their

756
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: running game going and extend drives and sustain drives and

757
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: do things like that, because if you do that, I mean,

758
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: that's to me, that's probably why the forty nine ers

759
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: are where they are defensively, because the offense has just

760
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: not gotten its job done enough and so then when

761
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: that happens, you're putting a lot of pressure on the defense.

762
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: The defense is out on the field all the time,

763
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: and then they just kind of get work. In a

764
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: pro system, you don't have enough guys to defend thirty

765
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: five minutes a game. Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot. I mean,

766
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of information that other offense is going

767
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: to get you, especially when they're clicking. And honestly, I

768
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: think that's one of the things we've seen with the

769
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: Rams too a little bit this year. Oh of course,

770
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean being hung out. I mean they're gonna find holes.

771
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: Look at Seattle, the last touchdown they score. Yeah, Okay,

772
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: they were out there for a while. They figured bang

773
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: bang bang, they've they've got keys because look, think about

774
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, he's been doing this for a while, and

775
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: then he's got a new starter at safety. Well, you've

776
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: got tells that you don't even know you're giving away

777
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: covers just by how you're doing things. He knows that

778
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: you don't boom touchdown. So it happens to every defense,

779
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: even veteran defenses, if you're out there too long. So

780
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: if the RAMS offense is going as fast as the

781
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: Frisco offense, you've got problems, which means San Francisco and

782
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: Kaepernick when they're off the field, it's bang bang bang punt. Yes,

783
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: if you're doing the same thing on the other side, Eventually,

784
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I think that offense will catch up to you. Yeah,

785
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: it'll just wear you out because all they need, all

786
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: they're looking for is just some success. Yeah, to keep

787
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: you in this personnel group, and they'll just temple you

788
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: to death until they score. Yeah, and that's kind of

789
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: the issue with that. I mean that if you have

790
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: that tempo offense, as long as you can get them

791
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: behind the chains on first and second down, keep them

792
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: in like the third and eight situations, I think you'll

793
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: be okay and make sure that the run doesn't get out.

794
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: Because Carlos Hide has shown that he can do a

795
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: lot of things. It's another Ohio State guy, you know.

796
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I am at Ohio State, and I think he's done

797
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: a nice job in that system, running for one hundred

798
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: and ninety three yards a couple of weeks ago against

799
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. So he's a weapon. I don't

800
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: know how you are with Ohio State. That was interesting.

801
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: Where were you talking about there, because you're the one

802
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: who brings up the fact that I'm from Cleveland, I know,

803
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: but you said Ohio State where we're talking about there,

804
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: sir Ohio State. I like Ohio So I didn't know that. Yeah,

805
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I'm an Ohio guy, just saying that's

806
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: all you got, what they're gonna if, if it so happens,

807
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: I wanted you to go nuts on that one. I'm

808
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: not Ohio State's okay, I'll root for him, right like

809
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not one of those people from like

810
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: who were family that's went there. I didn't go there.

811
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: My mom didn't go there. I don't have Okay, emotional connection.

812
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: You don't live and die with the buckhead. I don't.

813
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching them play. I want them to win

814
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: the championship. If they play, your husband, you plant on

815
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: every guy that played for Ohio State we talked about.

816
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: We talked about like ten players, and we didn't mention

817
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: any college except that guy. Yeah, okay, I'm just saying

818
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: because I got a rep from the state man, That's

819
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: what I'm always just saying. But he can break tach. Yes,

820
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: so you can't let the run sneak out. But look, um,

821
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: Kaepernick has a lot of experience beating the Rams. Yes

822
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, so yes, some experience losing to him too,

823
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: losing too, but a lot of experience beating them, so

824
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: he comes in with a lot of confidence. Yeah, I

825
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: think so too. Um, So let's talk about Fossil. Uh.

826
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: He was really aggressive in this last game, going for it, Johnny,

827
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: just the fourth the fourth down, Johnny doesn't want to

828
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: hop that you've got a chance. I think so too.

829
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: I think the defender was far enough away that he

830
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: could catch turn and possibly pick that up. Yeah. And

831
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: I liked the way Fossil put it this week where

832
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: he said where somebody asked him, you know, are you

833
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: going to continue to do things like that? And he's like, yeah,

834
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean because why not? You know? Yeah exactly. It

835
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: was kind of like that guy's just saying I might,

836
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: I might, and I'm in favor of that. I might

837
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: call a fleeflicker from the one why not? Oh are

838
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: you doing this? Man? Just brown shots left and right? Hey,

839
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: you don't? Why not? Why not that that team's own sixteen,

840
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Speaker 1: that's why that happened, or it's going to be own sixteen,

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Speaker 1: their own just whatever they are. Since we're going why not,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think we'll see that, But

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how well the Rams would

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Speaker 1: execute that, not that the Browns executed it any better.

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Speaker 1: You can stop laughing now, goodness? Sorry? Do you like?

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Speaker 1: Do you like that aggressive stuff? Though? I mean I do,

847
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Speaker 1: I really do, And I'm with him? Why not? Um?

848
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Speaker 1: Like I said, if Johnny throws a better ball there,

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Speaker 1: you've got a chance to pick it up. Absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, so games at one twenty five at

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Speaker 1: the call seumum. We will hope that we will see

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Speaker 1: you all there. But it's on Christmas Eve. So let's

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Christmas. Yeah, back, think back,

854
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: long time ago, long long time ago. You're not gonna

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00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: ask me what? Go ahead? What? What was? What was

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00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: the best gift as a kid? Why does everyone ask

857
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: that question? I don't know, because he is supposed to

858
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Speaker 1: pick the best gift? I don't know. I mean, did

859
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: your mind? Did your mom give you gifts every year? Yeah?

860
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Speaker 1: How do you pick the best one? M Well, no,

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Speaker 1: here's here's the one that comes to mind. And I thought, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I guess I have an advantage. I'll give you

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00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: time to think about it. Well, I I already have

864
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: it in mind, but go ahead, all right, Well, there

865
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Speaker 1: was um, so I'm bing into cars. So there was

866
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: this um like little red jeep and I guess we

867
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Speaker 1: went to I Don't Toys Arrest or something and I

868
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: liked it. But my mom knew how big into cars

869
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: I was, and so she bought me the little red jeep.

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00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: It was awesome and so like you know, Christmas morning,

871
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: you go downstairs like something you can drive. Yeah, it

872
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: was a little yeah, like with the gas pedal and

873
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: you like moving all around. I guess it was electric.

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00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't act where is it now? I thought it

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00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: was the best one you ever had. About you. I

876
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: don't know you think I'm getting I can't fit into that.

877
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: Now I have a real good best gift you ever

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00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: had you threw away? Look at you, Look at you,

879
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: look at you. I have a real car now, so

880
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I need that. Oh okay, yeah I

881
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: don't think. I think my GTI is. But let me

882
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: make your feel really bad because the best gift I

883
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: ever received was a pair of roller skates, and I

884
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: still have them because I don't even know about Yes,

885
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: it was a pair of the sneaker skates, remember those, Yeah, yeah,

886
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: sneaker skates, and I still have them. I was so

887
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: happy to have them, I know, heally heels. Yeah, you know,

888
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: like with the you so you're like, you're they're sneakers.

889
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: I guess they're sketchers or something. And then you like

890
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: the little wheels on them. Yeah, they got heels in

891
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: the back kind of we'll think more of like nineteen

892
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Speaker 1: eighty two. I'm sorry that. Yeah, I mean it looks

893
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: like a sneaker with wheels. Yeah, big fat wheels on them. Right.

894
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: I still have them, do you like? No, I can't

895
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: set them anymore, like hand them down to your No,

896
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Speaker 1: I just have them because they were the greatest guns

897
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: them or something. I almost cried when I got them. Yeah. See. Okay,

898
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Speaker 1: So what's the best gift? You threw away? Your reggie?

899
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Speaker 1: But not throw it away? I think my mom probably

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Speaker 1: a landfill somewhere. The best get it's not. I don't

901
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: think it works anyway. In two thousand and sixteen, almost

902
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen, So okay, what was the best

903
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: gift you ever gave? The best gift ever gave? Yeah, like,

904
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Speaker 1: what's the best reaction? Oh my goodness, have I stumped you? No? Well?

905
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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah you did? Oh well, yeah you

906
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: did you can't even think of one? Of course I can,

907
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: but it's like, really, oh you know what it gets?

908
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: It's pro athletes stuff. I don't know what that means.

909
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: It's a big bow on a house. Oh yeah, that's why?

910
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Is that bad? I mean, come on, what you don't

911
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: want to talk about how you did something nice for somebody? Yeah?

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00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: It makes me emotional? Yes, right, well that's really nice.

913
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I think that is a good thank you. Okay,

914
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Speaker 1: what's your best gift? I don't know. Oh my god, wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm not You're horrible. I know. Okay, here, here's one

916
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Speaker 1: more before we No, I'm not answering anything. You will

917
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Speaker 1: not unless you answer first. But God, is die Hard

918
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Speaker 1: a Christmas movie? Of course it is? Of course it is.

919
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Speaker 1: This is like, this is a debate on Twitter? Now

920
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: why how is that a debate? I don't know. It's

921
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: like one of those things like is a hot dog

922
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Speaker 1: a sandwich? Okay, this has been between the horns. I'm

923
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: done now, No, I don't know. Okay, so here's I'll

924
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Speaker 1: answer this. Like, I have never seen die Hard? Isn't

925
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: that bad? Yeah? People are looking at me weird in

926
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Speaker 1: the studio. Now, I've never seen it. I'm not speaking

927
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Speaker 1: to you anything. Come on, how can you not have

928
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: seen die Hard? I don't know that. You know what?

929
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: Always always playing in my house in Christmas time? It

930
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: was either Star Wars or like a Christmas story or

931
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Speaker 1: It's a Wonderful Life. I mean, we're our friendship is over?

932
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Who's John McClean. That's Bruce Willis. Okay,

933
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Speaker 1: I know I know of it. I'm just saying I've

934
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Speaker 1: never seen it. Effort. What can I say that? Should

935
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Speaker 1: we bleet that? I don't know? That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Goodness just brought thank you a DVD set of die Hard?

937
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness? Of course? Is the Christmas movie so funny? Yes?

938
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: All right, I guess I've got a project now for

939
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: winter break. I'm gonna get one. Let's go have lunch

940
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: at the Nakati Plaza. How about that that? I know? Alright? Well, everybody,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning into this edition of

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns. Thank you Josh, Thank you Chris for

943
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: helping us get this show on the road today. Thank

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00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: you Defar for being here. Is always and I'm an

945
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: exceptional thief. You are what I reference to that go

946
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: see La La Land this weekend, actually because I'm just

947
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: gonna stump for that movie because I thought it was awesome,

948
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: but also just thank you for being a part of

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Speaker 1: this show, for what we've been able to do in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Have a very happy holiday season, have a

951
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: very merry Christmas, and in case we don't see it,

952
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: have a happy New Year as well. Thanks for tuning

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Speaker 1: into Between the Horns. We'll see you next time.