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Speaker 1: talk to Florio about that coming up. Got a pull question.
Speaker 1: It's basically for clicks, is that right? McLevin? Absolutely? Who
Speaker 1: would you rather have as a teammate, Michael Jordan or
Speaker 1: Lebron James fifty three when NJ Yeah, I close. I
Speaker 1: want Lebron to be my teammate. It depends on what
Speaker 1: kind of player you are. If you're a shooter, you
Speaker 1: want to play with Lebron. Yeah, McLevin, you would fit
Speaker 1: right into that Paxon Steve kurrole six three white guy.
Speaker 1: You could have played with Jordan, Yeah, but he might
Speaker 1: have punched me or something. I'm guessing Lebron would have
Speaker 1: been a little bit nicer to me. Lebron would have
Speaker 1: been dishing the ball a little bit more to me
Speaker 1: than Mike would. I mean understand Kerr and Paxson we
Speaker 1: talked about, Oh, Michael would dish them the ball. Check
Speaker 1: their stats. They didn't have that many shots, just saying
Speaker 1: they hit a couple of big shots. They were hey,
Speaker 1: gotta work. It wasn't like they were Ray Allen here. Yeah, Fritzie.
Speaker 1: If they were teammates, as Lebron was saying that, they
Speaker 1: felt like you can match nicely within a mess with him,
Speaker 1: could he handle Jordan his face? I don't know how
Speaker 1: much Jordan was in Pitman's face as posted to the
Speaker 1: other players of the team that had a more secondary role.
Speaker 1: But is Lebron tough enough to have mj in his face?
Speaker 1: If they were teammates, I'm guessing Lebron would have been
Speaker 1: close to his level as Scottie was. Therefore there would
Speaker 1: have been mutual respects. It's guys that are role players,
Speaker 1: they're those are the guys that Michael picked on. He
Speaker 1: won't picking on Scottie. He was gonna pick on guys
Speaker 1: that Scott Burrell, Steve Kerr, Bill Winnington, Bill Cartwright. He
Speaker 1: was picking on secondary players. But I don't think he
Speaker 1: would have been picking on Lebron. How Lebron would take that?
Speaker 1: That would be interesting? And would Lebron say anything to
Speaker 1: Michael if they're a similar age? Is he going to
Speaker 1: say something to Michael? But I don't you know those
Speaker 1: I can guarantee that Lebron or Michael would have said
Speaker 1: something to Lebron more than Lebron would have said something
Speaker 1: to Michael if they were teammates. And I don't look
Speaker 1: at this as a weakness because you know, people have
Speaker 1: followed up by saying, don't you think that Lebron shows
Speaker 1: his weakness because he's saying he would want to play
Speaker 1: with Jordan as a teammate. No, he was asked about that.
Speaker 1: All he's saying is how would I fit in with
Speaker 1: Michael as a teammate. He said I would be an
Speaker 1: upgrade over Scottie basically, and that's true. He would have
Speaker 1: been an upgrade over Scottie Pippott. They would have meshed,
Speaker 1: they would have been fine. I don't look at this
Speaker 1: as a weakness and say, oh, yeah, Lebron, he couldn't
Speaker 1: handle it on his own. He wouldn't want to beat Michael.
Speaker 1: Lebron's not saying that, but I do think if Michael
Speaker 1: was asked this similar question and said, how do you
Speaker 1: think your game would work with Lebron? Knowing Michael, he
Speaker 1: would probably say, I don't know how it would work,
Speaker 1: but I would rather be playing against him than on
Speaker 1: the same team, because that was the mindset back that
Speaker 1: you didn't join teams. Now you join teams, Hey, I
Speaker 1: want to play with you. Back then, you were like, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is my team and that's your team, and that's
Speaker 1: why you had great rivalries. It's not Hey, let's be
Speaker 1: Bird and Magic. They wanted to go against each other.
Speaker 1: That made them better. Nowadays, Hey, I'd like to play
Speaker 1: with you. Can I play with you? Yeah, come on over,
Speaker 1: play with me. Back then, no, no way. So that's
Speaker 1: the result so far from the first two hours, that
Speaker 1: they would rather play with Michael Jordan than Lebron. Yeah, McLevin,
Speaker 1: I mean that team would be impossible to cover. If
Speaker 1: you had MJ and Lebron coming downhill at a defense.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be fair, right, I mean, it's not way
Speaker 1: to Lebron. I mean MJ and Lebron would be Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just no way they would win. Wait, there's no
Speaker 1: way that MJ and Lebron would win. I mean, it'd
Speaker 1: be so unfair, wouldn't be It wouldn't even be. Well, no,
Speaker 1: that's not the best point, war No, yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: the point. Yeah, I feel like I was just picturing
Speaker 1: the two of them. Imagine having to match up defensively
Speaker 1: against Lebron and MJ. I was hard enough matching up
Speaker 1: with you know, Michael and Scottie let alone. You put
Speaker 1: Lebron out there all right. Sunday Night, Last Dance revealed
Speaker 1: that Michael Jordan's infamous flu game was no longer the
Speaker 1: flu game. It was food poisoning. Jordan apparently was throwing
Speaker 1: up after eating bad pizza from a local pizza joint.
Speaker 1: So it's the story goes, five guys delivered a pizza
Speaker 1: to Jordan late at night. This was the Park City
Speaker 1: Pizza Hut. They made the delivery there, and uh, you
Speaker 1: had the manager, the assistant manager, Craig Fight I believe
Speaker 1: is how it's pronounced f I te He was on
Speaker 1: a twelve eighty the zone in Salt Lake City, and
Speaker 1: he maintains that there weren't five guys. First of all,
Speaker 1: how many pizza places would have five guys employed at
Speaker 1: ten thirty at night you might have one or two
Speaker 1: delivery guys, maybe one or two people that did. They
Speaker 1: close down the store and say, come on, we're going
Speaker 1: to Jordan's room. There's not five guys going to Jordan's room.
Speaker 1: Security would never allow that. Mike Hatch security with him
Speaker 1: all the time. And then they're gonna go, hey, I
Speaker 1: got five guys from Pizza Hut, all right, yeah, come
Speaker 1: on in, guys, come on. Although Jordan and whoever else
Speaker 1: was in there, Tim Grover as trainer, said five guys.
Speaker 1: Feels like we had our story all wrapped up here. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: five guys game delivered to pizza right, and I got
Speaker 1: sick from the pizza right, all right, that's good. Well,
Speaker 1: the assistant manager, he said, the crap story. The guy
Speaker 1: said that there was five people. There were two of us,
Speaker 1: and I didn't even have that many people working at
Speaker 1: the time at the store. There was just two of us.
Speaker 1: So he had been hired as an assistant manager a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks earlier. And he claims that everybody knew
Speaker 1: that the pizza was being delivered too, but not specifically who.
Speaker 1: So everybody knew who the pizza was being delivered too,
Speaker 1: so they knew it was going to the Bulls Hotel.
Speaker 1: They did not know it was specifically going to Jordan,
Speaker 1: which how would you know that. It's not like Mike
Speaker 1: got on the phone and went, yeah, I'll hold, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll hold, Yeah, I want a large sausage pizza thin
Speaker 1: cross police and yeah, I'm in room seven twenty two
Speaker 1: under engelbird Humperdick. Okay, sounds good. I don't know what
Speaker 1: Mike's alias was. So the pizza guy said they got
Speaker 1: a peek into Jordan's room, saw people playing cards at
Speaker 1: the time of the delivery. Jordan gave the delivery crew
Speaker 1: a wave in thanks, according to the manager of the
Speaker 1: pizza hut, and that was it. That's as far as
Speaker 1: the exchange went. Fight said, after venturing through security checkpoints
Speaker 1: en route to the hotel room. You have security checkpoints.
Speaker 1: You're gonna allow five people up there, no chance whatsoever.
Speaker 1: He said that there was one percent certain it wasn't
Speaker 1: food poisoning or it wasn't that pizza. Yes, seton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's weird about the wording there. It says Fight said
Speaker 1: he got a peek at Jordan in the room, saw
Speaker 1: him playing cards at the time of the delivery. Jordan
Speaker 1: gave the delivery crew a wave in thanks. Would you
Speaker 1: refer to one guy as a crew? He said it
Speaker 1: was two guys, So two is a crew instead of
Speaker 1: say like a crew to me, says more like five guys. Seaton,
Speaker 1: it's called two live crew, just saying yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: up because it's two guys. It's because they're too live.
Speaker 1: Just stay with me, come on. And also, you know
Speaker 1: what I think it's great about this too, is that
Speaker 1: then does this story prove that the brown Bottle Flu
Speaker 1: game is a myth where he was out partying all
Speaker 1: night and was really hung over during the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: if this guy saw him in his hotel room playing cards,
Speaker 1: then you would assume that then he did stay in
Speaker 1: that night and wasn't out all night partying. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels like he was either in Vegas. Then somebody
Speaker 1: said he's at Robert Redford Cholet, and then I guess
Speaker 1: he was at the Marriott in downtown Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: How many delivery guys in downtown Salt Lake City right now?
Speaker 1: I think that they're the person of Michael Jordan and
Speaker 1: taking credit for it too. Yeah, yeah, I knew this
Speaker 1: job at Pizza Hub was going to pay it off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I delivered the pizza to Michael. Do I think five
Speaker 1: guys delivered the pizza? No, I don't. Did he have
Speaker 1: food poisoning? I'm gonna say no, I'm just I would
Speaker 1: say I'm probably not. Maybe they got the pizza delivered
Speaker 1: after they got back from Vegas, but before they went
Speaker 1: out and then went to the chalet. They're all the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the last slice coming up on ESPN Deep Dive, Deep
Speaker 1: Dish next. Why would Jordan? Why would Jordan lie about this?
Speaker 1: You'd already made it home free? It does a flu game, said,
Speaker 1: he may not be lying, like the pizza may not
Speaker 1: have been doctor, but he could have gotten sick. But
Speaker 1: why not stay with the flu game? It sounds so
Speaker 1: much better than food poisoning, right like the flu because
Speaker 1: the flu game sounds like you were at partying all night,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you got a one day flu.
Speaker 1: Really okay, m Yeah, but then there was the food poisoning.
Speaker 1: You're the only one who got the food poisoning because
Speaker 1: you spit on the pizza. That's more believable though, food
Speaker 1: and poisoning for a day, getting a stuff way way
Speaker 1: more believable than I had the flu. Now Lebron would
Speaker 1: to share the pizza and gotten everybody said, that's true, yes,
Speaker 1: because he is a facilitator. See Jordan's selfish, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have all the pizza I want to have. I want
Speaker 1: the only one to have food poisoning because that'll help
Speaker 1: my legacy here because then I'm going to torch the
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz. Why did they send two guys to deliver
Speaker 1: the one pizza? Well, they probably were like you know,
Speaker 1: fanboys and thinking, hey, we got a chance to depending
Speaker 1: on who's this going to, Maybe we is going to
Speaker 1: the assistant manager is going with the delivery guy. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm like, why are you sending Why can't the
Speaker 1: deliver a guy just go right? The assistant manager probably said, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go over there. Maybe it's going
Speaker 1: to Jordan. Five guys. I can't believe five guys would
Speaker 1: How would security allow? Just imagine Michael security with him
Speaker 1: twenty four seven. Right, I'm surprised that anybody got up there.
Speaker 1: This is Utah on the road and you're gonna go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: We're gonna let five guys come up here. Five guys
Speaker 1: to deliver a pizza. That doesn't make sense at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah for Tea. I think mclevan mentioned it yesterday. How
Speaker 1: do you know just the right things to put on
Speaker 1: pizza or anything to not kill somebody by accident slipped
Speaker 1: them into a comba that it's just enough to give
Speaker 1: him a small dose of food poison. What ingredients does
Speaker 1: that into I don't I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: how this works. If it was like spoiled cheese, I
Speaker 1: don't know. And Frey went to a fight and it
Speaker 1: was like, You're like, oh, what happy you got beat up?
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, it's like five guys they just beat happened.
Speaker 1: Were like, no, it's more like two. Oh do you
Speaker 1: think it's more like five guys. Do you think it
Speaker 1: takes away? If it's only two guys you tried to
Speaker 1: poison you instead of five, Like it took a starting
Speaker 1: lineup to try to poison me. They were running a
Speaker 1: two man game on me. Come on, you were already
Speaker 1: we had already moved on the flu game, the infamous
Speaker 1: flu game. Oh my god, the flu game. We were there.
Speaker 1: Now it's the food poisoning game. Yes, mclovin, there is
Speaker 1: no way. He wasn't at Robert Redford's restaurant. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was a chalet. No, look it up. That's it's
Speaker 1: an open public restaurant at the top of right near
Speaker 1: Park City. You can go there. It's not his house.
Speaker 1: Oh so Gucas matt Ucas throughout, and you know, matt
Speaker 1: Ucas is one of the most honest men we've ever met. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a former NBA analyst. By the way, he got some FaceTime.
Speaker 1: How was that guy, the color guy for all the idea?
Speaker 1: It was like a border lacking players. Oh, I know,
Speaker 1: I know. I was told Jordan was in Park City.
Speaker 1: That I can only tell you. And it was three
Speaker 1: people who told me that Jordan was in Park City.
Speaker 1: That's all I know. Oh you know is you better
Speaker 1: do a better job the next time around with Jordan. Yeah. See.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing actually that I learned from this
Speaker 1: is that when you hear Jordan was in Park City,
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, how did he get all the way
Speaker 1: out there? And then you find out, oh, it's only
Speaker 1: like thirty minute. No, it's not far at all. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like right over the mountain. Yeah, just go okay.
Speaker 1: When the director was on with us Jason Harry yesterday.
Speaker 1: He said Jordan was staying on the outskirts of Salt
Speaker 1: Lake City, which sounds like Park City to me, just saying, Paulie,
Speaker 1: get in your truck and start driving and then do
Speaker 1: some research out there, checking from Park City and checking
Speaker 1: from Salt Lake City and then drive right back. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's great. It just goes along with Jordan Jordan the myth,
Speaker 1: Jordan's toughest opponent with Pizza. Yeah. And even then he
Speaker 1: out Pizza the Hunt or something like that, he out, Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's such a good story. Not believable, but it's a
Speaker 1: good story. Yeah. If I'm a pr guy at instant
Speaker 1: for Pizza, hut I do a fake lawsuit against Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's people kind of put it out there that we're
Speaker 1: considering Sulley. Yeah, but then you don't want people to
Speaker 1: be mad at you information. Well, the Jordan fans, then
Speaker 1: they're gonna be mad. They're they're gonna boycott sign Lebrown
Speaker 1: is your new spokesperson. Oh yeah, it's gonna cost you
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Yeah, Well, maybe Shack says something.
Speaker 1: Can Shack do something because he took over for Papa John, right,
Speaker 1: did he. I think he's yeah, Shack. Shack doesn't get
Speaker 1: paid to endorse a product. He became. He comes part
Speaker 1: of the company like that general you know stuff. Shack's
Speaker 1: part of the that's that's part of his company. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole Papa John's thing. It's like they got rid
Speaker 1: of Papa John and uh I think Shock slipped in there.
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, he tapped out two right. Yeah, soon as
Speaker 1: I got hot, he bailed. But he had all of
Speaker 1: those well yeah, when Papa John was saying what he
Speaker 1: was saying or doing what he was doing, and Peyton
Speaker 1: had all of those franchises. I think he may still
Speaker 1: have those. Quietly, uh Amy and Indiana joins us on
Speaker 1: the program. Hi, Amy, how are you hey? She borrowed
Speaker 1: Frank's phone, Frank Frank from Ohio in the first turn
Speaker 1: callback ame and call back. He let me see anything
Speaker 1: else I need to mention. So we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep that whole question the rest of the hour, right, McLevin, Yes,
Speaker 1: against your will. I know you're sick of this debate.
Speaker 1: Don't know, it's okay. I just don't like when people
Speaker 1: and I know it's one of those go tos Hey,
Speaker 1: who do you think it's better? Jordan or Lebron? Let
Speaker 1: me let Lebron be done with his career. In fairness
Speaker 1: to Lebron, let me wait, it's not going to change
Speaker 1: anybody's opinion. And I think it's I still view like
Speaker 1: Lebron is going to be underrated when it's all said
Speaker 1: and done because he's being compared to Michael Jordan. And
Speaker 1: we look at when you lose in the NBA finals.
Speaker 1: Somehow that's such a negative instead of getting your team
Speaker 1: there as many times as he has. Amy is back
Speaker 1: in Indiana. Amy, what happened? I don't know. I'm trying
Speaker 1: real hard. Okay, all right, what's on your mind? Amy? Okay?
Speaker 1: So my husband is super skilled in survival skills. He
Speaker 1: carves wood, he build a cabin in the woods, He
Speaker 1: starts fires. Now, I agree that mancamp is not a
Speaker 1: good title for something to bring a dude out, But
Speaker 1: there's a technical term for survival skills that I don't
Speaker 1: think should be used either, And I don't want to
Speaker 1: seem naughty, but that technical term is bushcraft. Bushcraft, Yes
Speaker 1: that's the technical term. Yes it doesn't sound survival list
Speaker 1: m well, bush country, but well, thank you, Amy, I
Speaker 1: appreciate helping us. We were talking about a man camp.
Speaker 1: Could you go to a man camp to teach you
Speaker 1: how to do things? If I was going to learn carpentering,
Speaker 1: because I was watching main cabin builders last night and
Speaker 1: they just make it look easy and I couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: but I'd love to learn it. But that's what they
Speaker 1: they grew up doing it. They probably look at this
Speaker 1: and say they could never do this, but you know,
Speaker 1: I've grown up doing this. Those guys, you know when
Speaker 1: they bring out there, what is it a miter saw?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, something like that. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: do any of that stuff. But the best money I
Speaker 1: spend is when I spend it on somebody else doing
Speaker 1: a job for me. Yes, right, So I think that right,
Speaker 1: we should probably differentiate things a little bit, because there
Speaker 1: are definitely camps where you can go out and like
Speaker 1: learn survival skills and send out into the woods for
Speaker 1: you know, a weekend or a week or something and
Speaker 1: teach you how to, you know, build a shelter and
Speaker 1: a fire and stuff like that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: any man camps though, that teach you how to like,
Speaker 1: you know, renovate your kitchen or something like that, though
Speaker 1: that would be a unique one. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be in survival mode. I would like better be ready.
Speaker 1: I'm already ready for that, but I want to be
Speaker 1: in I'd like to be able to do certain things.
Speaker 1: If you said you could learn plumbing, I could lose
Speaker 1: and learn some carpentry. I could, I guess car repair,
Speaker 1: do some things with that. I'd like to. I'd like
Speaker 1: to unders stand, you know, the electrical work, because it
Speaker 1: always feels like I somehow get shocked and I never
Speaker 1: know why I get shocked. But you know, when you
Speaker 1: have that fork and you put it in the outlet accidentally,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get shocked. Just letting you know, Todd, Yes, time.
Speaker 1: Where would you Where would you want this? It? A
Speaker 1: big air conditioned conference room at the RITZ Carlton. What
Speaker 1: would be her ideal setting to set up shop to
Speaker 1: learn carpentry or plumbing for your optimum comfort? Just an
Speaker 1: old barn. Why do I have to be in a
Speaker 1: Marriott or something a conference room? The survival pics? No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to five while I'm doing this. I
Speaker 1: just want to get out of my car go to
Speaker 1: a barn and learn some carpentery stuff. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be going through barbed wire and you know, putting
Speaker 1: face paint on and you being a Navy seal. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I got a buddy named Jesse up in Vermont, and
Speaker 1: he's a really good plumber. He really knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: But if you ever ask him for help on plumbing
Speaker 1: that needs at your house, he'll come over. All you
Speaker 1: gotta is provide some beer and he'll walk you through it,
Speaker 1: but you have to do it. He'll stand there and say,
Speaker 1: you want to take this pipe and turn it off,
Speaker 1: Then you want to put this hose in, Then you
Speaker 1: want to do this. He'll make sure you don't screw
Speaker 1: it up. But I learned something when he does it on.
Speaker 1: All I gotta do is buy like a twelve pack
Speaker 1: of beer. I think that's like the perfect thing. You
Speaker 1: have an expert walking you through it, but you have
Speaker 1: your hands on the equipment doing your best to learn it.
Speaker 1: Why is it when we want to impress somebody that
Speaker 1: the story is really true true, we give the name.
Speaker 1: So you don't have a friend in Vermont. You got
Speaker 1: a friend named Jesse and Vermont. Yeah, he's a Hecker.
Speaker 1: But now you know that that is true. You got
Speaker 1: a friend Jesse, Yeah, Seton. That's the downside of being
Speaker 1: someone who knows a trade or something is that you
Speaker 1: always have somebody who's like, hey, can you come over
Speaker 1: and help me fix my dryer? I got a squeak
Speaker 1: in there, and you're like, come on, dude, Like I
Speaker 1: just got off work fixing dryers, and now I got
Speaker 1: to come over to your house dryer, probably for free.
Speaker 1: It's so different then when I go out and then
Speaker 1: somebody says in beer, but I'm good, Hey, I got it.
Speaker 1: We settle a debate over here. I got a question
Speaker 1: for and like, I look, I just just did this.
Speaker 1: I don't need to do this right now, right. And
Speaker 1: then you know the car mechanic who comes home and
Speaker 1: then you're going, hey, can you listen to this over here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, I was just saying, gosh, I haven't looked
Speaker 1: at enough cars today. I was looking for one more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me spend a couple hours over there. Let's put
Speaker 1: it up on the lift here. Yeah that sounds great.
Speaker 1: All right, more phone calls coming up. We just got sidetrack,
Speaker 1: didn't we Like it was Amy and Indiana who got
Speaker 1: a sidetrack there, Mike Florio. We'll get us back on
Speaker 1: track here. We'll talk to some football with him. It's
Speaker 1: twenty three after the hour. Take a break here on
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Speaker 1: Florio from Pro Football Talk Live, co host Pro Football
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Speaker 1: in West Virginia. Are you handyman around the house there, Mike,
Speaker 1: absolutely not, absolutely no, no no. My dad taught me
Speaker 1: at a young age that there are people out there
Speaker 1: who have families who rely upon the revenue that comes
Speaker 1: from fixing things, doing stuff so stimulate the economy. How
Speaker 1: people keep their families hire someone to do these things.
Speaker 1: Camps are opening up a little bit, facilities are opening up,
Speaker 1: but this isn't universal here, Mike, I'm surprised that the
Speaker 1: commissioner is he going to say something about this there
Speaker 1: is there any unfair advantage with some of these teams
Speaker 1: having facilities open, another one's not. Well. This is the
Speaker 1: first moment where the NFL has reached a point of disparity, Dan,
Speaker 1: twenty two teams or thereabouts are in a position where
Speaker 1: state and local governments will allow them to open. Not
Speaker 1: all of them are opening right away, and some of
Speaker 1: them may take a little while. But ten teams or
Speaker 1: thereabouts can't open at all. And look, there are going
Speaker 1: to be many situations like this. If the NFL is
Speaker 1: intent on getting two hundred and fifty six regular season
Speaker 1: games played, there will be disparities, there will be competitive disadvantages.
Speaker 1: And the NFL is smoothing this one out by saying
Speaker 1: no coaches are permitted at any team facility. But still,
Speaker 1: you've got teams that can fire up the lawnmower. Get
Speaker 1: things rolling again, begin the process of planning for next
Speaker 1: year's draft, next year's free agency. Have front office people there,
Speaker 1: have meetings, etc. And as we get closer and closer
Speaker 1: to the start of the season, Dan, I think we're
Speaker 1: going to see more of it and the worst case scenario,
Speaker 1: and I think we have to be ready for it.
Speaker 1: Some states where stadiums will be open and thus there
Speaker 1: will be a home field advantage. Other states where stadiums
Speaker 1: won't be open and teams will have no home field advantage.
Speaker 1: And I think that's unavoidable. But that's the extreme example
Speaker 1: of where there will be disadvantages as the NFL tries
Speaker 1: to play this season. Which stadiums do you think will
Speaker 1: have fans this upcoming season? Well, I mean, look, and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be a political here, but we have
Speaker 1: all been paying attention to the states where there is
Speaker 1: more commercial activity despite the pandemic. I think Florida, Georgia, Texas.
Speaker 1: Those are states that I would point to and say
Speaker 1: it's likely that the stadiums will be open, and the
Speaker 1: message will be we know the risks. You know your
Speaker 1: health situation as well as anyone. If you want to
Speaker 1: come to the game, come to the game. If you
Speaker 1: think you're at risk, don't come to the game. And
Speaker 1: I think states like that are more likely to have
Speaker 1: stadiums open. California, New Jersey, states that are likely to
Speaker 1: not have stadiums open. And yes, there will be a
Speaker 1: disparity and teams will have to ask themselves, do we
Speaker 1: want to stay at home for the season and play
Speaker 1: in an empty stadium, or do we want to go
Speaker 1: somewhere else where we could sell tickets. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know how robust the fan base is going to
Speaker 1: be if you move the forty nine ers to Arizona
Speaker 1: for the year. But that's part of it too, because
Speaker 1: you could have some fans versus having no fans at all.
Speaker 1: But I think that's going to be one of the
Speaker 1: practical realities. We get deeper into the county. The NFL
Speaker 1: engineers in a sports equipment company Oakley are looking at
Speaker 1: surgical mask here or the N ninety five material for
Speaker 1: these guys to Is that going to be under your
Speaker 1: face mask here is a possibility. Now, I don't know
Speaker 1: whether it's like a covering for the face mask. Remember
Speaker 1: that mask that Justin Tuck used to wear where ye
Speaker 1: so tight you couldn't even get a finger through it
Speaker 1: if you wanted to. I mean, will they paste it
Speaker 1: over top of that? Will be these I think there'll
Speaker 1: be some players who say, I don't want that, I
Speaker 1: want my face mask. I don't want to have this thing,
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna have a hard time breathing. I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about getting the coronavirus. You're gonna have some players
Speaker 1: who feel that way. You may have some players who
Speaker 1: want the extra protection, and then of course the guys
Speaker 1: who take the extra protection are going to be targeted
Speaker 1: to have their faces spit on by opponents. I mean,
Speaker 1: we know how football players are. They're not gonna they're
Speaker 1: not gonna oh roll, We're gonna respect the guy who's
Speaker 1: wearing the surgical mask. No, they're gonna try to rip
Speaker 1: it off of the space and make him freak out.
Speaker 1: Because all's fair in football. At least, that's going to
Speaker 1: be the mindset that some players have. So this to
Speaker 1: me is it's got the potential to go a lot
Speaker 1: of different ways, but we have to accept the fact
Speaker 1: that football players are still going to be football players,
Speaker 1: and if there's a guy out there wearing surgical mask material,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be somebody else out there trying to rip
Speaker 1: it off of his face. Talking to Mike Florio Pro
Speaker 1: Football Talk Live co host with Chris Simms, I was
Speaker 1: wondering about this, Mike, because we looked at the schedule
Speaker 1: in those first four weeks, and I was giving a
Speaker 1: heads up look at the first four weeks and see
Speaker 1: if there's a way they're going to be NFC AFC
Speaker 1: matches or their interconference, interdivisional location of all of those things.
Speaker 1: And I started to wonder, Okay, if we took those
Speaker 1: first four weeks and we moved it to the back
Speaker 1: of the schedule there, if the NFL would would they
Speaker 1: take that approach if itn't meant we would have a
Speaker 1: chance at fans in the stand So we're going to
Speaker 1: postpone this and move it to the back so that
Speaker 1: gives us an extra month to kind of figure this out.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that approach here, absolute lutely, Dan, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think the NFL would explore delaying the start of
Speaker 1: the season, even if that means removing those first four
Speaker 1: weeks and tacking them onto the back end of the schedule,
Speaker 1: if it allows from a political standpoint, not red state
Speaker 1: blue state politics, I'm talking about working with the governors,
Speaker 1: working with the processes and the protocols behind the scenes
Speaker 1: to get people comfortable with taking the position stadiums are
Speaker 1: open if you want to show up, If that extra
Speaker 1: month makes enough of the difference that all stadiums will
Speaker 1: be open, I think the NFL is conducive to doing it.
Speaker 1: But Dan, on that point, something else I noticed in
Speaker 1: the schedule. I think it's been constructed where if they
Speaker 1: don't think delaying the first four weeks altogether would be beneficial,
Speaker 1: I think they are hell bent on going forward with
Speaker 1: week one. When you look at all those great games
Speaker 1: they're scheduled for Week one, go with Week one and
Speaker 1: then take a step back and reassess, and if something
Speaker 1: goes haywire, you can take the week two games, and
Speaker 1: all the team that play in Week two have buys
Speaker 1: the same week, you can push all those back into
Speaker 1: the bye weeks, Week three, Week four no divisional games.
Speaker 1: They can be wiped out, or they can be tacked
Speaker 1: on at the back end. But I think if they
Speaker 1: do go forward with the schedule and without a delay
Speaker 1: based on as you suggested, a full month to let
Speaker 1: stadiums open, it seems to me that they are ready
Speaker 1: to go week one, and then they would be willing
Speaker 1: to take a step back and see if any adjustment
Speaker 1: is necessary based upon the consequences of playing a full
Speaker 1: slate of games. The Rooney roll surfaced again, and now
Speaker 1: there's incentive for teams if they're going to interview minority
Speaker 1: candidates and maybe we improve your draft stock, or we
Speaker 1: give you an extra draft pick. Here, I wonder if
Speaker 1: this just came down to Eric B. Enemy not getting
Speaker 1: a head coaching job, and you know, to get interviewed,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's just one of the points, but here
Speaker 1: he is a great offensive coordinator with the best offensive
Speaker 1: football and you have other people who are getting jobs
Speaker 1: here and Eric B Enemy did not get a job.
Speaker 1: If Eric the Enemy gets the job, is the Rooney
Speaker 1: rule working well? I think it's one of the factors
Speaker 1: Dan that contributed the critical mass that caused people to
Speaker 1: realize something needs to be done, both as to coaches
Speaker 1: and as to general managers. Something coach Dungee told me yesterday,
Speaker 1: the broadcast of the draft this year was a key
Speaker 1: factor in this decision to make real changes because we
Speaker 1: saw the contrast the players homes the general managers homes,
Speaker 1: and that contrast, that lack of diversity among coaches in
Speaker 1: front offices came through loudly and clearly now that we
Speaker 1: had cameras in the homes of so many of the
Speaker 1: coaches and the GMS, that that actually was a major
Speaker 1: factor in pushing this forward. And I don't know which
Speaker 1: proposals are going to pass. But the idea of giving
Speaker 1: incentives giving enhanced draft status for teams that actually make
Speaker 1: minority hires, there's a lot of opposition to that. Coach
Speaker 1: Dungee is against it. I think the best move would
Speaker 1: be to table that one and allow for more discussion,
Speaker 1: more ideas, maybe other ways to adress the problem short
Speaker 1: of creating a reward, as coach Dunee says, for doing
Speaker 1: the right thing. Yeah, I don't like the reward, and
Speaker 1: I agree with Tony that it sends the wrong message.
Speaker 1: I just hope that you get more minorities in coordinating positions.
Speaker 1: I think that's really the key and getting you know,
Speaker 1: if they're head coaching jobs in college or you become
Speaker 1: a coordinator, and that ability to be able to then
Speaker 1: move up and become a head coach. Because Eric Bienemy
Speaker 1: should be a head coach in the NFL, and hopefully
Speaker 1: we'll get that opportunity. And I've said before, Mike, not
Speaker 1: every assistant coach coordinator deserves to be a head coach.
Speaker 1: You know. Romeo Cornell I don't think was a head coach.
Speaker 1: I don't think Charlie Weiss was a head coach. There
Speaker 1: are certain personalities where you have to be ready for that.
Speaker 1: You can be a great coordinator, that doesn't make you
Speaker 1: a great coach. And I think sometimes we get caught
Speaker 1: up in oh, you got to give him a head
Speaker 1: coaching job. That doesn't mean that. And Plus I think
Speaker 1: with African Americans minorities, they have even more pressure to
Speaker 1: succeed because if they don't succeed, then it hurts the
Speaker 1: next one and it's gonna hurt your chance to get
Speaker 1: another one. So it's a I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: there to unravel, but I don't know if we have
Speaker 1: a great answer right now. Hey, Dan, one key area
Speaker 1: of focus that I think the NFL needs to really
Speaker 1: be looking at is the entry level dynamics. You got
Speaker 1: a lot of nepotism, you got a lot of cronyism,
Speaker 1: and you got teams that do not pay a living
Speaker 1: wage to the lowest level employees. That's the point Chris
Speaker 1: Simms made today on PFTOT because he was one of
Speaker 1: those low level guys who was making peanuts in that
Speaker 1: first level job. Not everyone can say sure, I'll work
Speaker 1: for nothing. Guys have families, Guys don't have football money
Speaker 1: in the bank like Chris Simms had. Guys don't have
Speaker 1: Phil Simms money as a fallback like Chris Simms had.
Speaker 1: You can't just say sure, I'll work eighteen hours a
Speaker 1: day for nothing if I got a family at home
Speaker 1: that I have to worry about. It eliminates a lot
Speaker 1: of guys that otherwise could be very good at that job.
Speaker 1: Maybe they need to pay more money on the way
Speaker 1: in the door, and it will attract a more diverse
Speaker 1: group of candidates. Oh, it's great to talk to you, Michael.
Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. All right, dancy pout. It's Mike Florio
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk Live co host with Chris Sims, also
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk dot Com. We'll extend the last call
Speaker 1: for phone calls coming up here, and we'll have the
Speaker 1: fund results of the poll. Question what we learned, what's
Speaker 1: in store tomorrow this day sports history? Of course, Todd's scoreboard.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have a winner yet. This could
Speaker 1: be a first maybe not a winner here, Toddler. We'll
Speaker 1: come back with what is it forty and five or
Speaker 1: the two numbers five, forty and five. We'll come back. Boy,
Speaker 1: that's the reason to come back, Todd's scoreboard. Come on,
Speaker 1: that's way to sell it. Thanks. Yeah, you have been
Speaker 1: kind of quiet on mock headlines too. I'm waiting for
Speaker 1: that to come back. I got so banged around about it,
Speaker 1: said Seaton, leading to charge of like, you know, why
Speaker 1: why don't we do this never again? But I do
Speaker 1: need to h to do that. It's been quite a while. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go around the room. Who votes never on Todd?
Speaker 1: With never was a long time? I know never mclovin,
Speaker 1: how are you voting on Todd's mock Heeadlnes Never is
Speaker 1: too long? Okay, I feel that. How about the next
Speaker 1: four and a half years seton? Where do you stand
Speaker 1: on mock headlines? That's actually quincidentally, the mock headlines thing
Speaker 1: is also todd scoreboard. It's we should allow it five
Speaker 1: times a year and no more than forty headlines per
Speaker 1: wow segment? Did I get it? That really loves my
Speaker 1: mock headlines? I do love. He's always my biggest supporter.
Speaker 1: So that's why this is very strong. Leads with slaughter.
Speaker 1: He leads you to slaughter. He's like, yeah, that's slay.
Speaker 1: I'm not the one that leads. I just want him
Speaker 1: to be better. I just want them to be better. Paul,
Speaker 1: where do you vote on mock headlines with Todd it
Speaker 1: would be like voting. Stopping my headlines would be like
Speaker 1: me voting to not see people fall on ice during
Speaker 1: the winter anymore. I don't want able to fall an
Speaker 1: icing get injured. But man, I laugh my butt off
Speaker 1: on it. He's very honest. You gotta respect them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to be Jordan to your Scottie Burrell.
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I try to make you better,
Speaker 1: todd Eyby. But we all know that I still to
Speaker 1: this day, after eighteen years ago, that I can't handle
Speaker 1: that unless you have something wonderful to say about the
Speaker 1: job I'm doing. I just I can't handle criticism, whether
Speaker 1: it's constructive or meant to be mean, snarky, sarcastic, I
Speaker 1: fall apart. I'm very sensitive and either have something nice
Speaker 1: to say or I going here. Should you be on
Speaker 1: the air at all? Yeah? Meaning why like I don't
Speaker 1: bring anything to the table, even though of course, but
Speaker 1: just well that but just the sensitivity I walked through
Speaker 1: to that. Uh No, I'm I can handle being on
Speaker 1: the air, but when when I don't know my especially
Speaker 1: when it comes from you, it ruins my day. If
Speaker 1: you have anything less than wonderful, you know, bouquet of
Speaker 1: roses to fill nobody. I just can it's so tight,
Speaker 1: rry mature on my part. I'm fifty. You would think
Speaker 1: by now I would have figured out how to you know, yes,
Speaker 1: apartmentalized's ironic, and that you brought up constructive criticism. There's
Speaker 1: a clip of Bill Belichick, young Bill Belichick that was
Speaker 1: tweeted out today, just randomly, and Belichick says, quote, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you can improve unless you accept constructive criticism.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can get any better unquote.
Speaker 1: And it's just having to be hosted by Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: And he was talking about Fritzie not specifical. He wasn't okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. That's how you get stuck in mediocrity
Speaker 1: and bad mock headlines because you don't listen to advice.
Speaker 1: And yes, Seed got all the answers. I think Todd
Speaker 1: just summed it up. Same thing with the comedy. No
Speaker 1: and I'm good, I'm hilarious. I don't need to about
Speaker 1: I need to Adam sand Lord, David Spade or anybody to.
Speaker 1: That's how we got to try and figure out, is
Speaker 1: Todd the crazy one, or or we I just like
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm just gonna keep doing my thing, or
Speaker 1: are we the crazy ones? We're like, Noah, do it better.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with slightly above average for them. The fact
Speaker 1: that I was going to get Adam Sandler and Rob
Speaker 1: Schneider and David Spade to help you with your stand
Speaker 1: up and you said, no oh, that would have been
Speaker 1: a good time there, Danny. But Fritzie thinks he's funny
Speaker 1: than the rest of USh. You don't want any blame,
Speaker 1: but you want all the credit. That's very well said.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Todd. I'm still to this day I will
Speaker 1: say this. I know you gotta go to Break and
Speaker 1: we gotta get my scoreboard or everything, but I will
Speaker 1: say that the opportunity to perform or if you could
Speaker 1: call it that at the Comedy Store and Caroline's thanks
Speaker 1: to you and the French kid, that was how have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to perform well at those places? It would
Speaker 1: be nice, That would be an end in bonus, I
Speaker 1: wanted oil on my name and reputation. You got to
Speaker 1: go to Break now, Thank you to thank you Tod.
Speaker 1: Back after that, thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick
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Speaker 1: to pick up your guitar and play, just like yesterday,
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Pete Townsend seventy five. Today Seeton O'Connor
Speaker 1: a big fan of the Who. I'm sure you'll be
Speaker 1: cranking some Who songs, maybe some Quadraphenia. Yeah, squeezebox is
Speaker 1: a big one. And uh, you like squeezebox. We do
Speaker 1: like squeezebox. Yeah. When I was growing up, I had
Speaker 1: another idea of what squeezebox was, and then I realized
Speaker 1: it's an accordion. Mama's got a squeezebox, Daddy never sleeps
Speaker 1: at night. And I'm like, wait a minute here, hello, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then I think it's an accordion. The squeezebox. There,
Speaker 1: that's a point over you, I know. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: my guy's an accordion. This is a who. Come on,
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to be singing about other things than
Speaker 1: an accordion, all right, Fritzie, we have a winner, Kneel
Speaker 1: in Connecticut. Fritzie's scoreboard challenge. The numbers forty and five
Speaker 1: make it brief, Todd, all right. The clue for forty
Speaker 1: is bad to the Bone, all right, and the clue
Speaker 1: for five is mission impossible. Question mark, I guess, so
Speaker 1: you want to just give you the answer. I want
Speaker 1: you to give me the answer. Okay, Bad to the
Speaker 1: Bone is in the Bad Boys. Bill am Bier born
Speaker 1: in the state May nineteenth, nineteen fifty seven. Mitchion Impossible
Speaker 1: was on Kevin Garnett wearing jersey number five May nineteenth,
Speaker 1: ninety general. I wrote nine. Actually May nineteenth, nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett was born. I know we also worn over
Speaker 1: twenty one, but we went with the number five for
Speaker 1: the Celtics Championship. And thank you Todd, Neel. That was brief, bro,
Speaker 1: Thank you Neil. And Connecticut is the winner. And we
Speaker 1: have some T shirts to give away. By the way,
Speaker 1: chat Row t shirts are available, although the better T
Speaker 1: shirt is the one with Penny the house dog on it.
Speaker 1: And I might be I might just order one, maybe
Speaker 1: just make one, and I'm going to have It'll be
Speaker 1: one of one, the Penny T shirt. That's a great
Speaker 1: T shirt. All right, mcclevin. Final results of the poll question,
Speaker 1: who would you rather have a teammate? Mj or lebron
Speaker 1: fifty three percent mj Okay, let me see Dino, New
Speaker 1: York is back. Hi. Do you know what do you
Speaker 1: have for me today? A DP five nine one ninety seven.
Speaker 1: A great documentary I'd love to see would be the
Speaker 1: seventy seven and seventy Yankees the Bronx Zoo. You know what,
Speaker 1: a cast of characters, George Billy, Reggie Thurman, Sparky Hill
Speaker 1: Medals and there was a new fire to put out
Speaker 1: every single day, it seemed like it was. It would
Speaker 1: be really entertaining and one last thing suck at Seaton.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Dino. It feels like we've done
Speaker 1: the Bronx Zoo before. At least there was a book
Speaker 1: written on that. Yeah, McLevin. Yeah, they did a fictional series,
Speaker 1: remember that ten years ago? Yeah, on the Bronx Zoo
Speaker 1: based on that book. Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: football ones, the Cowboys with Jimmy and Jerry. I think
Speaker 1: would be great. I think that would be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. I don't know basketball wise, if we'd have
Speaker 1: anything that would You can't imagine doing a documentary on
Speaker 1: a basketball team after what we just saw with the Bulls.
Speaker 1: But football wise, you know you could still do that.
Speaker 1: There's still tension between Jimmy and Jerry. Now that would
Speaker 1: be fun. Dredge that up again. Go around the room.
Speaker 1: Frank Reich, the cold said coach, will join Frank I
Speaker 1: think is still I think he's involved in the two
Speaker 1: greatest comebacks in college football in pro football history. Is
Speaker 1: that right? I think he was the quarterback in Maryland
Speaker 1: when they were down thirty one points and came back
Speaker 1: to win. And then he was the quarterback with the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in the Houston Oilers when they were down.
Speaker 1: Were they down thirty five points or something crazy like
Speaker 1: that in that game, that playoff game? Does that sound right?
Speaker 1: Nick Love and Frank Reich, I think has been the
Speaker 1: quarterback of the two greatest comebacks, and maybe somebody has
Speaker 1: surpassed that with college football. I don't know. Chip Kelly
Speaker 1: from the UCLA Bruins will join us as well. Fritzie,
Speaker 1: what did you learn today? It's a positive sign that
Speaker 1: we're not getting more speculation from the nbaist to when
Speaker 1: they're coming back. I think it is that we haven't
Speaker 1: heard anything, and I think that's a good thing. And
Speaker 1: we had woe John and he says, maybe Orlando is
Speaker 1: going to be the destination. Maybe you have Las Vegas
Speaker 1: and Orlando for the West Coast teams and the East
Speaker 1: Coast teams when they start the playoffs, where do you
Speaker 1: play the championship that the NBA Finals, Probably on Orlando. Mclovin,
Speaker 1: what did you learn Sean Casey is not great at guitar.
Speaker 1: It's all about trying. Mclovin. Seeing O'Connor, I learned there's
Speaker 1: a slight window of possibility that every single Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory for that night is true. Maybe he was
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