1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: We'll go back to another episode of Unplugged, last one 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: of the season. I hope you guys have enjoyed the journey. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a little break and get right back 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: to you in a couple of weeks. Last night the 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: NBA Draft, A lot of people tune it Out'd be 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: interesting to see what the numbers are. I don't never 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: watch the draft on ituned in. 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: What did you think of the draft? 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Just a talented group of kids, very talented group of kids. 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: I'll surprise A cup slid all the way to what seven? 11 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: It was Sacramento, Sacramento. That's my hometown team, and I 12 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: hope they do right by him. They got something there, 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: but they've had issues keeping it and growing and nourishing it. 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: And as a as a hometown guy, I hope they're 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: able to do that with him. But obviously AJ went 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: number one. We sat down and talked to him. He 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: said he's always been number one. He plans on going 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: number one. He is number one. I like the Wizards. 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at the Wizards. I mean, you think 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: Trey Young is Anthony Davis going to be there? 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: Keishawn George, you like the Tray Young two hundred and 22 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 2: twelve million dollar deal. 23 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Trace called twenty five and ten. So I'm with it. 24 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: I'm with it. He and and I've always been a 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: fan of his. I think people forget how good Trey 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: Young is because he's been set down for a little bit. 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: Alex Sarr contin continues to grow. Anthony Davis. Is he 28 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna stay? Is he gonna leave? Does he want to play? 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: Does he he wants money? 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I think getting back out there 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: and and and and competing in at least, you know, 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: sixty sixty five games with this team could put them 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: in playoff contention and then he'll, you know, be able 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: to do what he needs to do money wise. 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: What about petersonate too? What did you think about that? 36 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Peterson at two to Utah? I mean a tremendous talent. 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I think a lot of people questioned 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: the cramping situation, and hopefully he's got that figured out. 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: But him and the Ace Bailey in the back quarter 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: is going to be real. 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: Last year too. 42 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a three headed monster right there, and 43 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: they got a nice front. I like Utah. I like 44 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: I think Utah is going to be really a much 45 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: improved team this year. Obviously ownership is dope, but they're 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: they're building it organically. So I like what Utah did. 47 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: I would have liked to see an aj Gun there 48 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: and kept it down and was able to continue his 49 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: journey in Utah. But I mean, the Wizards are in 50 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: good hands and I think definitely Utah is going to 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: be a much improved team this year. 52 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: And then Cambu's your third pick. He ends up going 53 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: to the Grizzlies. What do you think of the fit there? 54 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting, like who is that team? 55 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: What's their identity? 56 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 3: Now? 57 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they've you know, Jah had it for 58 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: a little while and I hope that you know, he's 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: able to recapture that. But you're also hearing his names 60 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: in a lot of different trades. I mean, you stripped 61 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: this team down and start over. You know you already 62 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: traded uh j and who the yeah Bain obviously you 63 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, So kind of Jaws that last piece, 64 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, we don't we don't know what we're gonna 65 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: get from Jay. If Jaw's there and he and he's 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: focused and the player we've seen, that's gonna be a 67 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: nice combination. You know what I mean, our. 68 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 4: First team rookie last year, Zach Eaty, first team All 69 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: Rookie in twenty twenty five. So they're young front court 70 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 4: of Coward, Boozer and Edie. 71 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, she had to be interesting. Like I said, I 72 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: like Cambooseer. I think he's a solid pick. A lot 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: of people thought that, you know, before the draft, he 74 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: could jump to one because of you know, his intangibles 75 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but uh, he's at three. I 76 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: like Memphis and you know I played I played there 77 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: for a year. So hopefully they can kind of figure 78 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: out this job situation, whether they're gonna move them or not, 79 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: and start building or rebuilding. 80 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: Before the honest Tree, did you see the clip of 81 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: dunb Leavy and lacub. 82 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, behind the scenes, I did. 83 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: End up picking Jaxsvill Lindenborg. Yeah, champion of Michigan twenty three, 84 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: twenty three and a half years old. 85 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: I think he's the cutoff as far as the aides 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: they'll draft you. But I think I like that kid. 87 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: You average, what about nineteen? Solid mean versatile? You know, 88 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: play the three four for them. They're gonna also, I 89 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: mean obviously have to make some moves to be in 90 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: any kind of contention, But I like that wasn't mad 91 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: at that pick, Jannie the first lost Bster trade. 92 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: It was Boston, Boston seemed like they were in the lead, 93 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: and then Miami kind of came in with more assets 94 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: than they ended up making the deal. So the deal 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: looks like this Portis and Jiannis go for Tyler hero Khalil, 96 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: where Jimi Hawkins Junior the thirteenth pick, which ended up 97 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: being made a ment U twenty thirty one and twenty 98 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: thirty three first round picks and then a couple of 99 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: pick swaps in. 100 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: The second round. 101 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: I saw Jimy Hawkins was playing pick up basketball when 102 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: he heard that he got traded. One of h Yeah, 103 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: one of the hemy showed him it's a cold game. 104 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: I don't. 105 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if I understand obviously you you you 106 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: look at Jannis and Bam and two very talented dudes 107 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: that can very well play off each other. Is is 108 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: Jannis going to be the five or MAM's five, MAM's five, 109 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Nis is the four? 110 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 2: That would be my guess? 111 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I think that gives defenses 112 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: like to really just pack it in. I think they 113 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: got to get a lot. They got to surround these 114 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: guys with shooters. Obviously, you know Tyler Herro, someone who's 115 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: consistently knocked down threes. Him me can shoot the three. 116 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: So you're losing some shooters. So but anytime you can 117 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: get a Giannis, you gotta take it. I'm just interesting 118 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: to see what they're gonna be able to put around them, 119 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: because I know they're going to really pack it in 120 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: against those two guys. But I mean, when healthy, two 121 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: of the best four or five combinations in the game, 122 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: So I want to see what they can put around 123 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: them to kind of help stretch the floor a little bit. 124 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: You are Wiggins. They got Powell, and they also. 125 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: Isn't Powle a free agent. 126 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: Powell will be a free agent, so it depends. 127 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: On how they're going to pay him. Yeah, I'm saying 128 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: they gonna pay. 129 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: Get a great season. I love he was an All Star, 130 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: so I love normal to look at and Davie on Mitchell. 131 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: They have under con love Mitchell probably their starting guard. 132 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, solid defense first, but can also score the ball. 133 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: I really liked them as sacrament I was I was 134 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: glad he was able to kind of restarted his career 135 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: in Miami. But yeah, I mean, if we look at 136 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: Wiggans is not a consistent three point shooter. That's not 137 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: his strength, you know. I mean they got they obviously 138 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: got two pieces off. If they can, you know, rebuild 139 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: the roster the right way. I mean, I think that 140 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: Miami could be scary next year. 141 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: How is this better than what Milwaukee was last year? 142 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: When you have two max guys and then the rest 143 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: of your roster isn't really filled out? 144 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: Are you? Is it? 145 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: I'm asking you? 146 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't 147 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: know if you can say it is five? Yeah, I 148 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: think we have to see. I think they very well 149 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: could be. I don't think this puts them at the 150 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: top of the of the East Eastern Conference, respectively. But 151 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: is it a better situation than he had in geographically? 152 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: It is? 153 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: I mean come on now, Yeah, But I definitely would 154 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: have thought, you know, and the Boston thing was it 155 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: was real or I thought they would surprise us with 156 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: you know, one more team that damn that that makes 157 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: sense too. But I didn't. I didn't necessarily see the 158 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: Miami move. But I mean, see pat Riley and Sposter 159 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. We'll see. 160 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: And with that that deal, the team that was, you know, 161 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: being flirted with a lot was the Boston Celtics and 162 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: the guy that was being dangled was an All NBA 163 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: level guy in Jalen Brown. Now they don't make that deal. 164 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: How do you think Jalen Brown's feeling right now? Where 165 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: do you think they move next? Do they end up 166 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: trading him? Still? 167 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: I wonder how much of the outside noise was the 168 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: media was people that do this making it more of 169 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: a issue than it really is. 170 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: But it was reported that he was up for it 171 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: was two first round picks and Jalen Brown. 172 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: But I think he understands the business that it's Giannis, 173 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and and and that's how 174 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: it that's how it goes. There's a pecan order, you know. Obviously, 175 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Jayalen Brown is to me, he should have been the 176 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: first team All NBA this year, fell for the second, 177 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: fell to the second team. But what he was able 178 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: to do for his team when he's been out, what 179 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: he did in the finals. Who he's been as a 180 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: player in this league, he's been absolutely incredible. But then 181 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Jannis has too, you know what I mean. So you 182 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: have to if there's a chance that you're the centerpiece 183 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: for a trade for Giannis. I think you obviously it 184 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: hurts because you put so much work in for Boston. 185 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: But I think he knows what the game is. I 186 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: think he's really on some I'm gonna show you motherfuckers 187 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: again this year how talents name. If that's the case 188 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: and Tatum's on his shit, Tatum and Gianna is gonna 189 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: be fun. It's gonna be interesting to see, you know, 190 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: what he's able. 191 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: To do, or excuse me, Tatum and Brown. 192 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: Tatum and Brown together, we see what they're able to do. 193 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be really exciting to see 194 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: them running back. That was my vote, But I think 195 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: I think to answer your question, he knows what the 196 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: it's a business, and at least it's Jiannis. 197 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: Say it's the other though, and say he's not loving 198 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: this at where Where do you think a team for 199 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: him to go where he could thrive and be the 200 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: top guy would be Damn? 201 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: I don't see him requesting his way out. I don't know. 202 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: There's reports that they're still fielding calls for interest because 203 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: now it's out that they shop Jalen Brown, so now 204 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: their teams are calling and being like, hey, we'll give 205 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: you so and so for. 206 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: This, trying to pour salt in the wound. What if 207 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: like a Jalen Brown and a Kawhi team, that would 208 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: be dope. 209 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 2: Well, the Clippers did have that pick yesterday. They could 210 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: have did that and it didn't happen. 211 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I really don't even want to 212 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: give thought to it because I don't want it to happen. Okay, selfishly, 213 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: I want to just fucking run it back in Boston. 214 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: All right, So last unplugged for a bit here. Five 215 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: big questions heading into next off season. Number one, Will 216 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown be in a Celtics uniform opening night? 217 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 218 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: Will Nicks be the first back to back team since 219 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen? 220 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: What are they like? Third, third and odds? Right now? 221 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right around there. 222 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't even talk about. Okay, seeing what the 223 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: fuck they did, we'll get there. Okay, I don't see 224 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: the Knicks running back, but you do. Knicks fan, you're 225 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: a hater if you don't see what they see. So 226 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: to keep the peace, we'll see. It's been what eight 227 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: straight different champs? 228 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight straight years. Last last repeat was the Warriors. 229 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: You were part of one of those. 230 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, so yeah, I'd probably say nah, I 231 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: take the field, But I mean, they caught lightning in 232 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: a bottle, and if that team can stay healthy and 233 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: come back, they're definitely gonna be in the conversation. 234 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 4: Kind of hurt my soul a little bit as a 235 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: Knicks fan because both you and Stack were taking for 236 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 4: different things. He did you like being the heel a 237 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 4: little bit? Did you not give a fuck? 238 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: Or I mean I didn't really mind. I'm not really. 239 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: You know, everybody's that fan base is nuts. That fan 240 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: base is nuts, and they you should have seen my dms. 241 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: They were like really and I look at the picture 242 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: and I click on the prof and I'm like, bitch, 243 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: shut the fuck, soft ass. But I'm not mad. I 244 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: mean they're, like I said, We're not gonna be able 245 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: to send Nick fans nothing for like the next twenty 246 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: five years. You know, they did their thing. Man again, 247 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: salute to the Knicks and what they were able to accomplish. 248 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: But I would take the field and see a different champ. 249 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Most likely will this be Lebron's last season next season? 250 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: Man? I don't know. I think really it's going to 251 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: be more on how he just mentally feels in his body. 252 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: I think he's been able to keep his body where 253 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, needs to be obviously in these these early 254 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: forties years. I just think is that mental is the 255 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: mental grind work, that the family time he's missing. He's 256 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: picked up a new hobby, his kids are getting older, 257 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: you know, I mean basketball takes a lot of time away 258 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: from your real life. So yeah, I definitely think obviously 259 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: the clock is ticking. It's gonna be interesting to see. 260 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, what are they going to resign him to? 261 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: They is with purports true? You don't know what the 262 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: fuck is true on the internet no more, but purports 263 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: were true that the Lakers weren't going to give him 264 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: Max was that? Was that true or that fair? 265 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: I mean they just gave Austin Reeves, he ripped up 266 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 2: his player option and just signed. 267 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: A Yeah, congratulations Austin Reeves. 268 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: So that's an annual average around forty six million dollars 269 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: a year. Luca makes fifty ish. Rui's a free agent. 270 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: Probably want to keep him around Marcus Smart? Do you 271 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: want to keep him dominating? I think he walks, I 272 00:11:54,200 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 2: think dominating, So yeah, Bron Max is like, what are you? 273 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's really up to him. You know, 274 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: obviously you never want to count on one's pockets a 275 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: tone what they should do with their money. But he's 276 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: made a ton of money and we know this could 277 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: be his last run. Like I would, you know, I 278 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: would come in on a low ball situation and get 279 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: some guys around me, because, let's be honest. I mean, obviously, 280 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: offensively that Laker team is going to be straight, but 281 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: defensively they really need some help. I mean, if you 282 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: if the point of attack is Luca's either guarding that 283 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: person or often respectively, you're you know, you're getting downhill 284 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: into the paint and spraying out for threes all day. 285 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: So it's just like they're gonna need a real back 286 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: line to anchor that Laker team. And if it's in 287 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: Bron's hard to come in for the low and allow 288 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: them to build out and grab some pieces. We'll see 289 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: if you. 290 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: Had to bet, do you think that the Lakers team 291 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: outside of Luca and Reeves looks completely different next year? 292 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 5: Is it? 293 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 4: A lot of those supporting cast because they do have 294 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: flexibility to not a lot of guys are are locked 295 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: in yet yeah. 296 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think they got to shake you know, 297 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: shake it up. This is the last time to really 298 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: shake the bag with Broun, I think, you know what 299 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean. So it's just like they said, they're building 300 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: for Luca, you know Luca. I think what vouched for 301 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Austin wanted Austin back, so he got his running mate back. 302 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: So obviously this is you know what they want. But 303 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do with arguably the greatest and 304 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: one of the greatest players who's on his way out. 305 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: So again, if they have some flexibility, dope. If you know, 306 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: like I said, I people wants to come in for 307 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: the low and then give up more flexibility, We'll see, 308 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: because I think they're going to have the firepower, They're 309 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: just gonna need some real depth and and and back 310 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: line help. Matt. 311 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: You spoke about this a couple of weeks ago, just 312 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: about Lebron going back to Cleveland, and Brian Windhorst has 313 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: a report out from earlier today saying that the Lakers 314 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: would be very open to trading Lebron for Jared Allen. 315 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: Hm hmm. 316 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: So basically a sign in trade where the Lakers would 317 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: sign Braun trading for Jared Allen and he would return 318 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: to the Cavs. 319 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Wow, what do you think that just putting that out there? Huh, 320 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: what's up just putting that out there? Yeah, laker than 321 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: this new Leger managements not really playing games. 322 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: I mean I find this to be if Yeah, odd. 323 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, just to throw that out there. 324 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: He's a Cleveland guy and he's a Lebron guy. 325 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: So Windhorse, Yeah he is could two things? Where could 326 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: two things be true? I think obviously having Jared Allen 327 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: the middo is going to help that. You know, that's 328 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: a shot blocking center. 329 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: It's a little like the blueprint of the MAVs team 330 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 4: that went to the finals with Luca if you look 331 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: at I mean, you don't have to compare Austin to Kyrie, 332 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: but a scoring guard. And then if you get a 333 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: rim running blob Threa at the center center kind of 334 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 4: like Lively. 335 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: I like Lively, but I like I like Jackson Hayes to. 336 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: I think he needs more minutes because I definitely think 337 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: he puts pressure on that rim. But yeah, that'd be interesting, man, 338 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: that'd be real interesting if if. But it really depends 339 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: on what Brons wants to do. Does he want to 340 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: finish where he started, or does he want to go 341 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: out as a Laker? What team has the best odds 342 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: you So we'll see. 343 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: Realistically anything that the leaguers can do, so you can 344 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: make a thunder. 345 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think it's a it's a young man's league, 346 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: and I think you know they're going to have the firepower, 347 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: but do they have the any kind of defense? I 348 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: think that's going to be the biggest question for this 349 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: team this year. So and take a lot, I would say. 350 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: Next question I have for you, is the West still 351 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: belonging to the San Antonio Spurs and the Oklahoma City 352 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: Thunder next season? 353 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: Those two teams? Yes, yes, okay, I think that's I 354 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: think it's going to be their West for a minute. 355 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: I think you know, there's there, there's teams that can 356 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: hop in and out, and one may maybe be a 357 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: two or something like that, but those are the two 358 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: best teams I think in basketball, to be honest with 359 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: you respectfully moving forward. I mean they're just really young. 360 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Obviously the Nicks just won it, and congratulations, and they 361 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: got a team that's a little bit older. But it's again, 362 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: this is a young man's league, and those are the 363 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: two best loaded young teams. I saw you put something 364 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: else in the rundown? Does this complete the Paul George 365 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: assets trade for Oklahoma City? 366 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: This is basically yeah, who they drafted the big from Michigan. 367 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: That was the last part of it. And I like, you. 368 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: Believe they think he's going to be a stop. 369 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Obviously, he's got to be able to move his puppies 370 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more to be guarding Wemby. But you 371 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: just think how they're thinking, you know, I mean, let's 372 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: let's add another piece to the chessboard. I liked him 373 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: in UCLA too, And it's crazy that the year he 374 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: transferred the Michigan they win a championship and he's a 375 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: what top eleven pick. 376 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: He was the number twelve pick. Yes, yes, sir, so. 377 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: The trade the full trade. It was Paul George. Clippers 378 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: received Thunder received Sga Gallinari twenty one first round pick, 379 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: which turned into trade Man twenty two first round pick, 380 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 4: which turned into Jdubb twenty three first round pick, which 381 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: turned into Cason Wallace twenty four first round pick which 382 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 4: turned into Nikola Topic and a twenty six first round 383 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: pick at Aimara, the Michigan big. 384 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Man, Damn and pg's been long gone. For a minute, 385 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: he's been long season Philly last year. Here I talk 386 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: about talent wise, I'm talking about he just hasn't been 387 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: a Clippers. 388 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's a going. 389 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: This gonna be his third year in Philly. PG has 390 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: been long gone and the ship just finally ended and 391 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: they were able to win it. That's crazy. 392 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: And there's two all NBA guys on that list right there, 393 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: the back to back MVP and J. Dubb who's made 394 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 2: All NBA. 395 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: That's similar to the ransom that the Celtics got for 396 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: KG and Paul right. 397 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: Tatum, it turned into Tatum and Brown, I mean ship. 398 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: So that's a question, would you what do you think 399 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 4: the getting Tatum and Brown or getting. 400 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: S G A. J. 401 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 4: Dub and Wallace. 402 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: I mean they I think they both won both those things. 403 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, both those They got a championship out of it, 404 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: and they got great young talent that's still you know, 405 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: steering the ship. So it's crazy how the game works. 406 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 4: West still heading shoulders over the East. 407 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't say heading shoulders. I would say they 408 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: have the two best young teams in the NBA in 409 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: San Antonio in Oklahoma City. But I wouldn't say heading shoulders. 410 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: I think the East is going to be strong. I 411 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: like to see what Miami does. I like to see 412 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: what Boston does. What is going on with embid. I 413 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: think last year we said, like, you know, is it 414 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: time to that the process may be over because you 415 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: can't count on them. I just think that Philly doesn't 416 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: want to Then they fire what's his name? Right? Yes, 417 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: who's the GM? Shout out obviously a shout out to 418 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: my homeboy, uh, Jamier Nelson. Man. I think he moved 419 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: up in the in the Philly organization. Yeah, that's the 420 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: home congratulation. Who's the GM? 421 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: The Sixers front office is being run by Elton Brand, 422 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: Jamiir Nelson who just got promoted, and then Mike Canzi. 423 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: I think no one wants to be the GM that 424 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: trades Embiid and he finds that magical sauce and is 425 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: able to play be healthy for another three years just 426 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: because you know he's an MVP candidate if that's the case. 427 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: But I just think in Philly, man, it's you might 428 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: have to cut your losses somehow. I don't know how 429 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: they get in since he hasn't played more than forty 430 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: games in the last four seasons, five seasons. 431 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: Last year, thirty nine years. 432 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: Crazy Matt last one of the year. What were some 433 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: of the moments of unplug that stood out to you that. 434 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: We got kicked out of our own area for the 435 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: White House? Crazy, how the CEO of the company got 436 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: kicked out of his own Now I'm playing shout out 437 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: Mike and the White House and shout out Netflix. I 438 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I just think cool stuff like that. You know, 439 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: company wise has been fun episodes. No, I don't remember shit. 440 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: I love that. We you know, we were able to 441 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: parlay the cocaine quarterback Owen into our true crime We're 442 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: going to launch a true crime vertical now, so we're 443 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: able to you know, tell that story and and turn 444 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: it into business. What are some of the ones we had? 445 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that Jeff Pearlman about Tupac was dope. 446 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: Howard White, Cody Rose was fun. The last guy we 447 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: just had with Kuran, Larry Miller and Kan that was 448 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: that was dope. Care Gary is a storyteller. G Money 449 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: that was dope. Yeah, I mean, I hope you guys 450 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. We try to bring you a little versatility 451 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: into space, a little something different than all the smoke 452 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: kind of sit down interview but although we did have 453 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: some sit downs, but just more reactive and send some 454 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: comments what you guys feel like we could do better 455 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: or something you guys might want to see For next 456 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: season of Unplugged, We're gonna take like four weeks off, 457 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: six weeks. 458 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: Off, a little summer break. 459 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll come back to you if anything pops 460 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: and may just be me to the phone and we'll 461 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: dress it up. But I think we'll be back in 462 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: probably six weeks. Man, We'll enjoy the summer, man, stay safe, blessed, 463 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: excited to see all the action that continues to come 464 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: and then the movement in the NBA, and man, we'll 465 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: see you guys. Shit six weeks. Welcome back to Unplugged. 466 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: The last episode of the season. 467 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 3: Man. 468 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: I hope you guys have enjoyed this season. And to 469 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: close it out, I got none other than my light 470 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: skinned brother friend. What's happening to man life? 471 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: Man? I can't complain, Man, appreciate you having me as always? 472 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt? How was I mean? Where are you 473 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: at health wise right now? Obviously missing the whole last 474 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: season where you first of all physically at then mentally at. 475 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm feeling good. 476 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 5: Man, I'm getting a little impatient, you know, right about 477 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 5: the nine ten month mark. So typically the research say 478 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 5: nine to twelve is when guys make their way back. 479 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: So I'm turning the corner a little bit in regards to. 480 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: That, and you know, hopefully I'll have my regular off 481 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 5: season training protocol as you know, start to pick up 482 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 5: in July and be playing in August and getting ready 483 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: for training camp. So I'm definitely in good shape, you know, 484 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 5: be ready for the start of season. 485 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: What was that last season? Like, I think we touched 486 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: on this a little bit, but the season is finally over. 487 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: Up and down season, there's some trouble in the locker room. 488 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: As someone who normally is out there leading by example, 489 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: what was it like to kind of have to take 490 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: that back seat mentally and kind of obviously you still 491 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: helped where you could, but you network on the court 492 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: able to help and then kind of that's some times 493 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: that translates into you know, not being on the court 494 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: and how that helped work. So how was that mentally 495 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: for you? 496 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was tough. Definitely obviously the toughest season of 497 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 5: my life. Toughest year of my life on and off 498 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 5: the court, So I felt a little bit more like 499 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 5: a passenger. You know, I'm a control freak. I like 500 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: to control everything. Most great point guards do. You know, 501 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 5: you usually got your fingerprints on a lot of things. 502 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 5: So it wasn't as much as I could do. And 503 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: I definitely felt like we were missing that, you know, 504 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 5: as a as a team, with our culture and just 505 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 5: the way that we normally operate, you know, the last 506 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 5: two three years since I've been here, So it was 507 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 5: hard to watch. It was, you know, definitely a tough 508 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 5: season for everybody. Wasn't as bad as it looked or 509 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 5: as it seemed, but obviously, you know, it's not if 510 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 5: you draw up the season, you don't you don't forecast 511 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 5: any of the things that. 512 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: We had, you know what i mean, going on through 513 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: throughout the season. You can't plan for that. 514 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 5: But all in all, I'm proud of our young guys. 515 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 5: I'm proud of the stepps that they made, and it's 516 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 5: a good learning experience. Like for me and you, it 517 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 5: was just another another year and another year in the NBA. 518 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 5: You know, this happened all the time. Obviously, things get 519 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 5: blown up now with social media. But for the young guys, 520 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 5: this is like their first time going through any type 521 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 5: of adversity as a team. 522 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: So good experience for him and you know, hopefully will 523 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 3: be better. 524 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: For I think the one thing that that kind of 525 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: stood out about things was and again I've been on 526 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: the inside and heard noise on the outside, and to 527 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: your point, it's always bigger. But the KDS vibe with 528 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: that team is that blown out of proportion or things good? 529 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: I played with KD and I know how he moves, 530 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: he leaves by example. What's that vibe like? Because obviously 531 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: great player on the back end of his career, and 532 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: you guys have a very also talented young group of kids, 533 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: So what's that experience been like. 534 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: It's been great. 535 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: I think that the young guys all were very receptive, 536 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: and it was their first time playing with a true superstar, 537 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 5: so it's an adjustment. I mean, I played with DeMar DeRozan, 538 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 5: who to me is a superstar caliber player but very 539 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 5: low mainta, is very easy going, chill, won't say nothing, 540 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 5: lays him. 541 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: Up every day. 542 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 5: I played with Kawhi, who was my first real like okay, 543 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 5: the superstar people around us treat him like a superstar 544 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 5: and then seeing Kay and how he moved, Like I 545 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 5: think more than anything, it just wasn't we were missing 546 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 5: me and Steve O to balance it out. 547 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: So it's like all K all. 548 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: The times, Like, no, we don't need K to be 549 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 5: talking and being a vocal leader and teaching guys and 550 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 5: all that shit, Like he do enough for us, you 551 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 5: know what I mean. That's where the rest of the 552 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 5: team got to step up to the plate and balance 553 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 5: things out for him, And I think he learned too, 554 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 5: Like it takes time for teams to jail together. You 555 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 5: got to learn each other, how we communicate, what guys like, 556 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 5: what they don't like, how we can bene you know, 557 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 5: compliment each other on the floor. And I think it 558 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 5: was a learning gelling experience that just didn't look great, 559 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 5: you know what I mean all the time. So I 560 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 5: think big picture wise, will all be beneficial, but it 561 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 5: was definitely tough to go through to watch. 562 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: Definitely some growing pains. You know, some teams are starting 563 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: to transition towards point forwards and kind of not necessarily 564 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: eliminating the point guard, but not putting an importance on 565 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: the point guard. I think your team last year kind 566 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: of did that out of necessity. I think Amin Thompson 567 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: played really well, but you can obviously see and this 568 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: is something I said the very beginning of the season, 569 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: pulled the tape. Your absence from that team was going 570 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: to be so important because not only are you approven 571 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: vet a champ play on both sides, but you know 572 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: who to get the ball, when to get the ball to, 573 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: and in their spots. And I felt like as good 574 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: as Amen played as kind of a point forward this year, 575 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: he just is too young to kind of understand and 576 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: have that balance that he'll get there. What did you 577 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: see from that perspective, because I think that's all you 578 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: guys were missing. It was honestly you because obviously what 579 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: you bring in leadership and then obviously what your talent 580 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: is on the court. 581 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, learning on the fly is exactly was what it 582 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: looked like, is what it was. He was learning on 583 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 3: the fly. 584 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 5: He was learning on the job and his talents and 585 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 5: his specialties, and that make him the top one percent 586 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 5: of the one percent is not being a floor general, undersized, 587 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 5: unathletic guy like me. 588 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: That ain't what his superpower is, you know what I'm saying. 589 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 5: So it's we're asking him to do some of that, 590 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 5: but also still trying to find ways for him to 591 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 5: excel in the spots. So I would just say I 592 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 5: felt like everybody was a little bit out of position, 593 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 5: and you know, we didn't really find a way to 594 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 5: put guys in the best positions to be successful as 595 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 5: a team as players. 596 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 3: Like we found our spots. 597 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 5: When it was good and there at other times it looked, 598 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 5: you know, it looked a little funky out there. But 599 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 5: to still end up with the season that we had, 600 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 5: I think that, you know, everybody should be going into 601 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 5: the summer with a chip on their shoulder, not feeling 602 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 5: sorry for yourself and not you know, feel like this 603 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 5: guy is falling, but understanding like, yeah, we got some 604 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 5: work to do, we got we got shake back. 605 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: It's a marathon, not a sprint for sure. NBA draft 606 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: very talented young crop of kids. But before we get 607 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: to that conversation, take us back to your draft night. 608 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: You were someone who unfortunately didn't get drafted, and then 609 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: three years later you're an NBA champ and signing a 610 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: big deal. What was that draft night process like and 611 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: what kind of chip did it put on your shoulder 612 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: to get to where you are now. 613 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was tough, and it really was only tough 614 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 5: because I had did eighteen workouts, so like I was 615 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 5: looking forward. 616 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: To you know what I'm saying, they ran you through 617 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: half the league. 618 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 5: I did eighteen and thirty days, you know, Like the 619 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 5: day before the draft is where I learned the business 620 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 5: because it's like you kind of know who's gonna get 621 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 5: picked when and where, and like you got to your 622 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 5: agent got a good feel. It's not like a surprise 623 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 5: on draft night, right, Sometimes they are surprises, but most 624 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 5: of the time guys know. 625 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: So my agent was. 626 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 5: Telling me like, yeah, you know, it's actually better if 627 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 5: you don't get drafted, And I'm like, well, why the 628 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 5: fuck did I just do eighteen workouts? 629 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 3: Like I could have saved my time, you know. 630 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 5: So I was looking forward to it from the standpoint 631 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 5: of I had dominated some of those workouts. I played 632 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 5: very well, so I'm thinking, like, this is how it worked. 633 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 5: You go work out well, you get picked. Obviously that 634 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 5: wasn't the case, but I also learned that there's a 635 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 5: lot of ways to get to the NBA, and we 636 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 5: as kids, you focus on being drafted and hearing your 637 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 5: name called and getting the hat and your parents and 638 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 5: all that shit, crying like that's what you think about. 639 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 5: But when you get up to the moment, you're like, okay, 640 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 5: I could still make it without being picked. And then 641 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 5: so my mindset had to switch real fast. I gave 642 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 5: myself a night, you know what I mean, to let 643 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 5: my hair down, enjoy myself. And then the next day 644 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 5: I was like, all right, we're back to working. That's 645 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 5: how we chose Toronto. 646 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: You know what was interesting. Austin Reeves hold a similar thing. 647 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: He found out he was going to be drafted at 648 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: the end of the draft, and his management agents thought that, hey, 649 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: if you don't get drafted, it's gonna be okay because 650 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: then you can kind of pick to see what team 651 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: best fits your abilities. And it sounded like you guys 652 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: both were able. 653 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: To do that. But sure, shout out to him. 654 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about saying eighty five relations congratulations Austin 655 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: Reeves man. So great to undrafted former players really doing 656 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: their thing the draft. Anything stand out to you, any surprises? 657 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: Obviously you're still in the league. You got to see 658 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of these young guys coming your way this season. 659 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: But anything that surprised you. 660 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: Nah, I just looked like the league was getting behind 661 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 5: his class. You know, I think it is widely known 662 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 5: as a special class. So I thought like the intros 663 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 5: was dope. We talked about that yesterday they had I 664 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 5: don't remember seeing that. I usually don't watch the draft 665 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 5: because obviously I wasn't drafted, so I could care that. 666 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 5: But then, you know, as an NBPA president, I probably 667 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: should be watching the draft, so I'm tuned in. 668 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: I thought that the energy was great. 669 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 5: I think that this is a great class for the league, 670 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 5: and I thought it was cool that the Michigan coach, 671 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 5: you know, massiges my guys, so for him to hire 672 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 5: the Michigan coach, for him to get one. 673 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: Of his guys, like they had three in the top 674 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: eleven that which was crazy. So I just thought all 675 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: of that was dope. 676 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: NBPA recently launched Players United, a commercial brand leveraging NBA 677 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: players influence for global business opportunities including products, partnerships, and content. 678 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: When I saw this, I instantly text you. I was like, Yo, 679 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: this is dope, And I'm sure I probably don't fully 680 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: understand the extent of it, but outside looking in, this 681 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: is a really cool play for you guys. Can you 682 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about this. 683 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, so currently, just the way that the business model 684 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: is set up, we do group licensing, which you would 685 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 5: be familiar with, which is like we all get a 686 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 5: percentage of whatever the group licensing deals that come. 687 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: In Jersey sales, two K, all of these different things. 688 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: So like on paper, me and Lebron make the same 689 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 5: amount off Jersey sales, no matter if he sells ten 690 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 5: million and I sell ten right, So that's what group licenses. 691 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 5: Group licensing is, So we had a department that was 692 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 5: focused on that. I think this is just a rebrand 693 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 5: and another way to view the business for us as players, 694 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 5: and the narrative should be around player ownership and obviously 695 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: owning more pieces of the board. So this came to 696 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 5: the table as a rebrand in us just trying to 697 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 5: own more of a piece of the business. 698 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: The NBA does a great job of owning their piece 699 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: of the business. 700 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 5: And like I text you, I think that when you 701 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 5: think of the NBA, a lot of times you think 702 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 5: of the logo, right, And that's a great example because 703 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 5: when you're growing up, you want NBA socks. 704 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: You want NBA this, you want NBA that. 705 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: Well, the NBA logo is a player that's Jerry West, right, 706 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 5: So it's like, this is another way for us to 707 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 5: create a forward facing brand that people can relate to 708 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 5: on a consumer level, while we also build our own 709 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 5: business outside of things with the NBA. 710 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: So we got a lot more to come. 711 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 5: I think that the unveiling was dope. The video that 712 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 5: they put together was incredible and it's got people excited. 713 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: The content piece. Obviously you're behind the scenes now you're 714 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: a player, but also have your own pod. What do 715 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: you guys do with Is that all in house? Do 716 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: you guys outsource? How? How could all the smoke worker 717 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: play united? Real quick shameless plug? 718 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's it's we open for business. 719 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 5: I think that the best part about being, you know, 720 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 5: a player owned is that you know we can we 721 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 5: can go in any direction that we want, right. So, 722 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: I think there's guys that would like to own their stuff. 723 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 5: I think there's guys that need help and need direction. 724 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 5: And you got a bunch of former guys like like 725 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 5: yourself that's doing it at a very high level. 726 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: Already. We see guys transitioning. So that's what this is about. 727 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 5: It's about endless opportunities and instead of being licensed at 728 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 5: check or being paid for an appearance, or being paid 729 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 5: here and there as talent. This is the concept around 730 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: Players United is to have more ownership in the spaces 731 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 5: that that we're operating there. 732 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: I love that we're gonna talk off camp. We're definitely 733 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: gonna figure something out. One of the cooler components to 734 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: this partnership is obviously the new SPITE space in LA 735 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: that's coming in August, the training facility exclusively for players. 736 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit more about that. 737 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, So they ran the numbers and I believe that 738 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 5: there was about two hundred and twenty to two hundred 739 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 5: and forty guys in LA over the summer. 740 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: As you remember the U see LA runs and all that. 741 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: That's that's half. That's half the league, right. 742 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 5: So currently our headquarters are in New York because to 743 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 5: be close to the NBA and the business none out there. 744 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 5: But that gym is very small, it's not like a 745 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 5: place that you would consider a training performance center. So 746 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 5: the opportunity came about for us to grab his facility 747 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 5: and do a full overhauls the old Clippers facility they 748 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 5: used to do right there. 749 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: Right by the airport. 750 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: So old facility. Yeah night, it's a nice spot, nice case, right, 751 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: So two courts, plenty weight room, it's got everything you need. 752 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: You got everything you need. 753 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 5: So in the summertime right now, I mean over All 754 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: Star Break, I think they had sixty eighty guys in 755 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 5: there and it wasn't even finished, right, So that was 756 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 5: just over the All Star Break. 757 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: Being in LA. 758 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 5: This summer, we're gonna have runs, guys will get their training, 759 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 5: then we'll have full nutrition, sports performance, weightlifting, basketball training, 760 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 5: and then we'll have the runs and then big. 761 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: Picture wise, right, you got naming rights, things like that. 762 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 5: And then also at some point I'm sure we'll get 763 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 5: to some streaming and some live streaming where we could 764 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 5: do our own things throughout the summer, throughout different seasons where. 765 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 3: If you do, if you guys had to lock out, 766 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: what was that twenty. 767 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 5: Eleven yep or whatever the case may be, when you 768 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 5: and everybody was running around doing pick. 769 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 3: Up, Right, it's like we can have our own pick 770 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: up right here stream streaming. You know, we go right 771 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 3: to the fans, so cut it out. 772 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 5: We we we got a lot of things on the table, 773 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 5: a lot of things in the works, but just carving 774 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 5: our carving our piece out, you know, and coming together 775 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 5: and working as a collective more so than everybody being 776 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 5: on their own. 777 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: That's that's that's what I'm on. 778 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 5: That's what I'm preaching, and and I'm supporting anything that 779 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 5: brings the players together. 780 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: And it also seems like, respectively, it's it's allowing someone 781 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: out the top tier guys, but kind the middle of 782 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: the pack, role player guys to experience some things that 783 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: the superstar as you know, are kind of historically only 784 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: accustomed to getting a chance to do. So I think 785 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: that's definitely another layer two. 786 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 5: And why I like that, Yeah, I mean you got 787 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 5: to think it's five hundred guys and you know there's 788 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 5: only the top twenty to thirty live a different type 789 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 5: of experience. So I think that the stronger that we 790 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: are together, those guys are gonna be what they're gonna 791 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 5: be regardless. But if we can come together, it's just 792 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 5: going to raise the level. It's going to raise the 793 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 5: tide and everybody will be able to catch a piece 794 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 5: of the stream. So we're definitely stronger together from negotiating power, 795 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 5: from leveraging as a as a brand, as a community, 796 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 5: and you've seen when we come together, how strong it 797 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 5: can be. But we can't wait for catastrophic things for 798 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 5: us to all stand together, right. We have to start 799 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 5: that process now and I think that this is one 800 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 5: of the first steps in doing that. 801 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: I love it. Well. Congratulations to you guys with Fred mean, 802 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Best of luck the rest of 803 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: the suburb. We'll talk to you so bro, no doubt. 804 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: Thank you brother' a wrap. I hope you guys enjoyed 805 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: this season of unplugging and cast this on the DraftKings 806 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: Network and all the Smoke Productions YouTube. See you guys 807 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: next season.