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Speaker 1: Is that I just want to know what you're thinking.

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Speaker 1: And as long as we think the same way, now

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Speaker 1: I can deal with what I need to deal with

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Speaker 1: from there, and I trust you to deal with what

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Speaker 1: you need to deal with. It's when you're not on

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Speaker 1: the same page. And so having a guy like Roddy

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Speaker 1: Hudson that has been around, has seen it, has seen everything,

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Speaker 1: has played at an extremely high level, hopefully that can

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Speaker 1: free Kiler up and help solve some of those issues.

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Speaker 1: And so he can just play ball and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to think and worry about those things, especially as

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Speaker 1: he's trying to make that evolution and learn how to

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Speaker 1: play the position a little bit better. That he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to worry about anything that's going on up front,

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Speaker 1: and he can really trust those group of guys. And

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Speaker 1: so that's what I think you're always hoping to get

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Speaker 1: from your center, is that we talk often about an

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and a quarterback seeing the game the same way,

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Speaker 1: and that helps when you're designing plays and all of

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Speaker 1: those things. And it's the same to me for a

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Speaker 1: center and a quarterback. If you guys can see the

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Speaker 1: game the same way, that just frees both of you

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Speaker 1: up to just say it. I know he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: thinking what I'm thinking. We'll just call it right here

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Speaker 1: and we'll move on and we'll play fast. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you mentioned calling out the mic, he had

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Speaker 1: a pointed opinion today about how he doesn't like the

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Speaker 1: new single digit jersey rule and he wrote, dumb, why

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Speaker 1: not let the lineman wear whatever they want to? Good

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Speaker 1: luck trying to block the right people. Now, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: make for a lot of bad football. Hey, you've been

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Speaker 1: there over the line of scrimmage and trying to figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who's coming who is it? Is that a problem if

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, linebackers are not wearing single digits.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a problem. I think like everything

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Speaker 1: else will adapt to it, and you'll game plan and

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Speaker 1: you'll know whether ray Lewis is fifty two or ray

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Speaker 1: Lewis is zero, or ray Lewis is ninety nine. We'll

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Speaker 1: know what number he is when he comes into the building,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's not gonna matter which one of

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Speaker 1: those he's wearing, and you know we'll can attest to this.

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing when we're talking about protections and blocking schemes,

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Speaker 1: it's unblocking the guy that's in that spot. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what number he's wearing. That guy in between those

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Speaker 1: other two guys as the mic linebacker. And so that's

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Speaker 1: how I see it. Now we can identify them by

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Speaker 1: the number they're wearing. But I never really even saw numbers.

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Speaker 1: It was more just oh, that's that position, is the mic,

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Speaker 1: that's the same, that's the will whatever, and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: it might be an adjustment early on because you're not

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Speaker 1: expecting certain guys to be wearing certain numbers, But that'll

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Speaker 1: change really quickly as you, like I said, you go

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Speaker 1: through your game plan and you circle the four guys

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Speaker 1: that you're worried about every week, and you'll know exactly

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Speaker 1: what numbers they're wearing and what you expect to call

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Speaker 1: out and who's who's considered what. So. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: anytime change happens, we worry about it and we think

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Speaker 1: it's going to affect us. But I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: come on, last year they played in front of no fans,

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Speaker 1: and so you know you had to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to get your self amped up for that. We'll figure

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Speaker 1: out how to call a linebacker that's wearing number twelve

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Speaker 1: or whatever, and we'll move on. You know what's interesting

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Speaker 1: about it? Go ahead, Paul, Oh sorry, well go ahead.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting too is listen the Arizonal Cardinals. They brought

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Speaker 1: in a lot of grizzled veterans, Kirk As you well know,

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Speaker 1: you know, JJ Watt, of course, Malcolm Butler, AJ Green,

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Speaker 1: bringing Rodney Hudson, bringing these guys into this locker room

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Speaker 1: right here. To me, that is a culture shift that

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Speaker 1: is going to happen inside that locker room. Can you

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Speaker 1: talk on that and speak on that at all, Kirk, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean anytime you have you know, great leaders, guys

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Speaker 1: that have been there, Guys that have played at a

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Speaker 1: certain level, Guys that walk into the locker room and

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Speaker 1: already have a level of success or respect that goes

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Speaker 1: with their name. Those are things that you know are

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Speaker 1: extremely valuable. All I would say is that at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, though, those guys are going to

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Speaker 1: have to be healthy on the field making plays, and

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Speaker 1: that's what this is going to come down to. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to question JJ Watt as a man and

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Speaker 1: a man of character and what he's done in this league,

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Speaker 1: but I need to know that he's going to be

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Speaker 1: out there with me every day and that he's truly

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Speaker 1: a part of this culture, and that to me is

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Speaker 1: going to be the biggest question. You know, AJ Green

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Speaker 1: and Malcolm on one year deals, you know, what does

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Speaker 1: that look like? How are they able to come in

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Speaker 1: and really become leaders on this team? And more importantly

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Speaker 1: that the issues have been injuries with guys like AJ

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Speaker 1: and JJ as of late, and so bottom line, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you bring to the table if you're

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Speaker 1: not out there with us, and you're not able to

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Speaker 1: play and you're going through an injury, it's a completely

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Speaker 1: different dynamic. So I like what they've done. I like

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Speaker 1: the veteran leadership that will be in that locker room.

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Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, this

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Speaker 1: is going to all be weighed by how much those

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Speaker 1: guys play, what kind of impact they have at this

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Speaker 1: stage in their career, you know, comparatively to what they've

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Speaker 1: had the last couple years in other places. And obviously

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Speaker 1: the reason why they were available is because they just

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Speaker 1: hadn't played up to their potential, and a big part

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Speaker 1: of that has been injuries and not being able to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy to compete at the level that we had

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Speaker 1: grown accustomed to. But man, let's hope they hit the lottery, right,

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Speaker 1: Let's hope these guys stay healthy, because I believe AJ

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Speaker 1: can still play. I know JJ can still play. He

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Speaker 1: played at a high level at times last year. Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Butler can play. I mean, all those guys, And so

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Speaker 1: that's what you're hoping as you go all in that, Man,

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Speaker 1: we get lucky for this one year and we get

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Speaker 1: kind of the best of everything melding together along with

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Speaker 1: our young talent and now we've got a chance to

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Speaker 1: maybe do something and Kurt, let's wrap it up. Give

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Speaker 1: us a quick thumbnail on QB Confidential. I've seen it

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. At QB Confidential. You tell us you know,

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Speaker 1: for example, this Zach Wilson today, you mentioned about his athleticism,

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Speaker 1: but you said you weren't talking about how far he

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Speaker 1: can throw it or how fast he can run. You

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Speaker 1: were talking about other rare and special moments. Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you talk about quarterback athleticism. Is that I always tell

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Speaker 1: people when I try to evaluate quarterbacks, I don't evaluate

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Speaker 1: their athletic ability because a I never had it, So

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to truly evaluate it and correlate

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Speaker 1: it and then be I don't know how that translates.

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Speaker 1: I know how processing information and how accuracy can translate

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Speaker 1: from college to the pros. I don't know how running

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Speaker 1: a four three translates. I don't know if you're a

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Speaker 1: good enough athlete because you do some of these things

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Speaker 1: to make it translate to be like Lamar Jackson at

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So I don't even look at that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I look at quarterback athleticism and the ability to

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Speaker 1: move in the pocket, the ability to understand how to

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Speaker 1: make different throws, to be on different platforms and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. But you know, as you talk about quarterback Confidential,

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Speaker 1: quarterback Confidential actually was something that It's something that I've

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Speaker 1: wanted to do for a long time because I've wanted

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Speaker 1: to be able to share my knowledge and experience with

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Speaker 1: the masses, and with the masses, I mean quarterbacks at

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Speaker 1: all different levels, you know, because I do high school coaching,

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Speaker 1: I do individual coaching for college and pro guys. But

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Speaker 1: I wanted to have a larger reach for the quarterback

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Speaker 1: position because I believe I'd bring a lot of value

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to impact young coaches. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: invest in young coaches because I think I have a

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Speaker 1: unique knowledge of the game and of offensive football and

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Speaker 1: the why behind the game. And so I've always wanted

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Speaker 1: to do it, and I've been limited to, you know,

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Speaker 1: the three or four quarterbacks I have in high school,

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Speaker 1: or the four or five that'll come work with me

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Speaker 1: in the off season from the other levels. And when

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Speaker 1: the pandemic hit a year ago and my offseason schedule

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Speaker 1: kind of came to a halt like everybody else's, I said,

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Speaker 1: here's the perfect opportunity for me to dive in and

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Speaker 1: do something that I've wanted to do. So I created

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Confidential, which is a teaching and instruction platform that's

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Speaker 1: laid out in five different components. So I have a

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Speaker 1: component called Blackboard Breakdowns where it's all about football IQ.

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Speaker 1: Everything from you know, recognizing a box count, to how

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Speaker 1: we call defenses, to reading defenses, to how we you know,

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Speaker 1: look at certain plays, but just building football IQ from

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Speaker 1: an offensive perspective. I go on the field and talk

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Speaker 1: quarterback technique, which is so important to me, and I

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Speaker 1: think there's so many kids out there that that can't

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Speaker 1: afford the guru or they're with people that don't really

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Speaker 1: know how to teach it. It's a great tool I

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Speaker 1: think for them to learn or for coaches to learn

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Speaker 1: how to coach it. I go inside the playbook, which

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Speaker 1: is probably my greatest passion, and just talk about the why.

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Speaker 1: I say that every every play has its own story.

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Speaker 1: You know who we're trying to throw to and what

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Speaker 1: the timing of it is, and why we run routes

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Speaker 1: to certain ways. I have the film study as you

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Speaker 1: talk about, which I call Study Ball, which is my

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Speaker 1: Friday segment where I'd kind of dive into NFL playbooks

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Speaker 1: who are top level playbooks and really talk through different

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Speaker 1: schemes and IQs, and I find all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But things that I love to do is looking at

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Speaker 1: the pros and breaking it down. And then I have

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Speaker 1: another component called outside the Box, which is me just

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Speaker 1: taking my story and lessons that I've learned along the

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Speaker 1: to kind of build a mindset of excellence. And so

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Speaker 1: the way I've got it laid out for the first

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Speaker 1: Mondays you get one, Tuesdays, you get one Wednesdays, Thursday's, Fridays.

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Speaker 1: Each of those different segments comes one day a week

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Speaker 1: and you'll get them every week for fifty two weeks

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's a great investment for any coach

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Speaker 1: to and they love it because it takes them inside

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Speaker 1: the game from a quarterbacks perspective, which we know so

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Speaker 1: much of the game comes from that perspective, and there's

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Speaker 1: so much great content on it. So I'm excited about

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Speaker 1: it because I just want to invest in the next

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Speaker 1: think is something that anybody and everybody can can gain

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Speaker 1: something from. The price is almost minimal when you look

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Speaker 1: at what's out there for what you're going to get,

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Speaker 1: and so just encouraging everybody. I mean, you can follow

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Speaker 1: me at QB Confidential on Twitter and Instagram and YouTube

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Speaker 1: and all of those things, but the site is actually

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Speaker 1: weeks for free to check it out and then decide

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Speaker 1: from there. But I just I don't think anybody's going

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Speaker 1: I'm just excited about it because I finally got the

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Speaker 1: masses now but also something that can live for the

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Speaker 1: you know what, Kurt. Thank you so much. Man. I'm

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Speaker 1: And Kurt Wolf wanted me to ask you about larrying

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Speaker 1: his decision. I told him no, so you can. You

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Speaker 1: can thank you later on that We amend of that.

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Speaker 1: Warner at QB Confidential back right after this breaking news,

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt is going to the desert. WHOA, that

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Speaker 1: is not photos? I know, he said. Adam Schefter just

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Speaker 1: reported it. Wow. The first thing I did was take

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Speaker 1: a look at the tape and quickly realized that J. J.

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Speaker 1: on that when he walks on the field, he don't

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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, mister J. J. Watt, Captain America known in

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Speaker 1: these parts, what I see is a guy who leaves

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Speaker 1: a lot now on just the things he's seen in life.

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Speaker 1: His technique is impeccable, and you have to do that

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Speaker 1: because far the time is undefeated. It's funny everybody in

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Speaker 1: the NFL wanted J. J. Watt, the Arizona Blessed to

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Speaker 1: give him. Oh he's old, he can't play no more.

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Speaker 1: This guy still can play football in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: he could play at a high level. And that's just

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Just one clip from season four, episode

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Speaker 1: and Wolf. I think you will agree we're all better

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Speaker 1: coach Brentson Buckner, he is always he has always good content,

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Speaker 1: especially when you put the clicker in his hand. Look out. Yeah, absolutely, Pally,

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Speaker 1: and not only that too, he's so right on JJ Watt.

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt is a guy that I was shocked

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Speaker 1: last season. Bally. We know he's been banged up over

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Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised at how he looked. He looked really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean he led the NFL and tackles for loss

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Speaker 1: He led the NFL in drawing double teams as well.

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Speaker 1: So right, right, right, so right there, you know, with

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones and Isaiah Simmons and Buddha Baker are all distracting,

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Speaker 1: you know, offensive fronts, and we're all very curious obviously

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Speaker 1: to see what JJ Watt is all about this year. Now,

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Speaker 1: as for as for the press conference earlier today Cliff Kingsbury,

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Speaker 1: the fact that the Rams have tried to one up

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Speaker 1: Paradise Valley. The drafts have gone the Rams have gone

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Speaker 1: ahead and they set up their draft war room in

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Speaker 1: a Malibu beach house, and Cliff Kingsbury was asked about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really think it's just employed by McVeigh to allow

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Speaker 1: Sibilo Rose dip in the ocean and make some draft

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Speaker 1: picks a thing more than anything. He had that up

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Speaker 1: so it should be fun to watch. Here's the metaphorical

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Speaker 1: protective cup. Why aren't two slided in? That was good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now those two are really good friends. And if you remember,

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Speaker 1: texting Cliff Kingsbury that he was in violation of NFL

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Speaker 1: and Roger Goodell was going to find him and strip

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals of draft picks. So that Cliff Kingsbury was

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Speaker 1: getting back at Sean McVeigh there a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: out that sound by we just heard with a simple caption,

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Speaker 1: just say so smiley face. And it's a picture of

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury with his shirt off at a beach party

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of other guys and so it's going

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Speaker 1: back and forth, and as our Jim, I'm under and

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Speaker 1: Cody Fincher just informed us. The Seahawks got in on

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Speaker 1: the action and they said, we don't need an ocean

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Speaker 1: picture of DK Metcalf and coached double Rainbow when DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf walked in with his shirt off during the draft

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Speaker 1: combine interviews last season, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: seventy year old Pete Carroll takes off his shirt and

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Speaker 1: nobody needed to see that, you know, too bad. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't that amicable on the field, Paul right, And I

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Speaker 1: say that tongue in cheek, of course, because we love

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Speaker 1: the fact that it is a contested game. Every time

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Speaker 1: these guys play, they step in between those white lines,

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Speaker 1: are trying to actually drive somebody into the ground and

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Speaker 1: do it with malice. Of course, that's what we're supposed

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Speaker 1: to do. But it is kind of a light moment here,

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Speaker 1: the calm before the draft storm that is coming our way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: speaking of the calm before the storm, you're moved now

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, right, How are the Niners going to

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Speaker 1: get in on this? NFC West action. So so there

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Speaker 1: you go. Well, we'll see about it. And remember, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have yet to beat Sean McVay. He is eight

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Speaker 1: no against the Arizona Cardinals, So don't think that the

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Speaker 1: players aren't reminded of that. During the off season. There

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Speaker 1: was a great story had a chance to tell Kyle

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Speaker 1: Vannabosh and Carlos Dansby last night. For a while Wolf

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Speaker 1: and Bannabosh said that when he was with the Titans,

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Speaker 1: every single season they will put up a picture of

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. This Peyton Manning guys beat us like twelve

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Speaker 1: times in a row, and that was their motivation for

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Speaker 1: the entire defensive front, was to get after and payback

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. And when they did it, he cited that

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Speaker 1: NFL career, No doubt about it, Paulie. They've got to

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Speaker 1: and I fully expect this is the year, paul This

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Speaker 1: is when they do it. We'll come back, we'll wrap

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Speaker 1: up this edition of the Big Red Rage, and we'll

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Speaker 1: tell you about a very special day in Arizona Cardinals history.

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Speaker 1: It is a big red rage presented by Satan Pord

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Speaker 1: and Gilbert we Are Santanford. Huge play by Pat Tilman.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you're gonna do, you should be passionate. Matter of why?

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Speaker 1: Why do it? By Pat Tilman. Damn Tilman delivers the blow.

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Speaker 1: Tilmann was there for. A rushed back there by Pat Tilman.

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Speaker 1: Pat Tilman the play. I don't know. I get a

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Speaker 1: lot of satisfaction out of, like, you know, my family

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Speaker 1: them to be proud of what I'm doing. Pat Tilban

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Speaker 1: talk about a guy with a lot of heart. That's

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Speaker 1: what Tillman is all about. Huge play by Pat Tillman.

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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I you know, I have a patriotic

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Speaker 1: I think we all remember exactly where we were when

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Speaker 1: we learned the news that Pat Tillman had lost his

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Speaker 1: Radio kta R newsroom news came down, just utter shot.

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Speaker 1: We weren't even truly aware at that point the Pat

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Speaker 1: had gone back and had decided to re enlist. That

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Speaker 1: and and defend the United States of America. And will

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Speaker 1: you know it's it's the seventeenth anniversary of the passing

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Speaker 1: of Pat Tillman. And and you know there was a

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Speaker 1: car that was handed out at the funeral and Darren

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Speaker 1: Urban cited it and the line goes like this, every

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Speaker 1: man dies, not every man really lives. And does that

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Speaker 1: not sum up Pat Tilman? Yeah, Paul, you know a Pat.

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Speaker 1: The Pat Tillman story alone, it asked the question. It

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Speaker 1: hear Pat's story, it's who are you? And how are

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Speaker 1: you living your life? It's like you you have to

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Speaker 1: ask yourself that question when you hear the Pat Tillman

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Speaker 1: story and what it is that he was all about

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Speaker 1: and what he did with his life. And don't forget

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Speaker 1: we're a week away from the NFL draft. Pat Tillman,

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Speaker 1: despite being the PAC ten Defensive Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: We watched the rookie Pat Tilman, and his strategy was,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to hit anything that moves, doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: the drill is half speed, I'm going full speed, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play with more passion than anyone else

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Speaker 1: on the gridiron. And that's the way he lived his life.

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Speaker 1: He got everybody's attention, did he not? And Paul Season

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