WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Cherry Blossoms

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chuck and this is short stuff, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take a little tour, a little trip around the world

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<v Speaker 1>and do a little Washington, DC, and do a little Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's mostly it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everyone knows what we're talking about then, because

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about cherry blossoms and the Japanese cherry tree,

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<v Speaker 2>which does not produce actual, like edible cherries that we

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<v Speaker 2>know and love. It does provide a little fruit berry

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<v Speaker 2>for animals and such, but it's not that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>cherry tree, So just stop asking. It's better.

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<v Speaker 1>It is better. I mean, I like my cherries for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you've ever seen a cherry blossomed tree in

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<v Speaker 1>full bloom, is it's such a sight to behold that

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<v Speaker 1>Japan essentially created an entire cultural season around it with

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<v Speaker 1>its own emotions and songs and all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It is really moving. If you're American or North American,

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<v Speaker 1>or you just like traveling to the United States and

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be here in the spring and go to Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. There's a good chance that you've seen the

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<v Speaker 1>cherry blossoms on the title basin blooming, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>about the time they're going to start. I think in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. It's predicted the whole seasons from March

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<v Speaker 1>twenty it's to April twelfth. Yeah, but if you really

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that you're there for the peak,

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<v Speaker 1>they usually say like the last day, last couple days

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in March is usually when they peak.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. Brooklyn Botanical Garden, by the way, shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to them. I know DC gets all the press

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<v Speaker 2>here in the United States for cherry blossoms, but they

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<v Speaker 2>do pretty good on their own. That's where I've seen them.

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<v Speaker 2>But in Japan is where the real show is. They've

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<v Speaker 2>been cultivated there and really beloved since eighth century CE,

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<v Speaker 2>and they first started appearing in poetry and in books

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<v Speaker 2>and in pictures and things like that. They have a

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<v Speaker 2>word for the cherry blossom, which is sakura. They have

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<v Speaker 2>quite a few words for this, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's Japan. And then they're flower gazing when the

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<v Speaker 2>time rolls around where they're in bloom is called hanami,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's sort of a mixed bag in Japan because

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<v Speaker 2>it's definitely you know, spring and new beginnings, they start

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<v Speaker 2>the new school year, then it's the start of their

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<v Speaker 2>fiscal year. But it's also a little bittersweet because it

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<v Speaker 2>also symbolizes like the ending of things, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the reason why is because cherry blossoms just

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<v Speaker 1>stop all of a sudden at their peak. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>like grow and peak and then fade. They grow and peak,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that, they just fall off and die. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's this idea, this concept of something dying in its prime,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in and of itself quite bittersweet. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>have a word for that, this kind of nostalgic bittersweet

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that's kind of associated with cherry blossoms is not

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<v Speaker 1>which means exactly what I just said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for sure. And I was sort of laughing on

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<v Speaker 2>the inside there because they I got this from a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different sources. But this may have been someone

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<v Speaker 2>how Stuffworks interviewed. The last name is Malot, and this

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<v Speaker 2>guy was like, if you're watching a Japanese movie or

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<v Speaker 2>TV show and it's some like awesome young person that

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<v Speaker 2>is the central character, and they're walking around and you

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<v Speaker 2>see the cherry trees blooming like that means they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to die in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure right. That was a John Malot. He organizes

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<v Speaker 1>the Sakura Matsuri Japanese street festival in DC every April.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's the I guess, the Japanese version of

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<v Speaker 2>what we have in the United States, which is somebody

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<v Speaker 2>costs into a napkin and there's blood in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Yeah, that's always a bad sign, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're always gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that never just becomes this thing that just happened

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<v Speaker 1>and the movie moves on.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be a fun red herring to put in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, sure, I think that would be a mcguffin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, the emails. This is the new haiku.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I forgot about haiku. I wonder somebody could write

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<v Speaker 1>a haiku about what a mcguffin is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>You asked for it, so you said that. There's other

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<v Speaker 1>words for cherry blossoms, and Japanese one of them is

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<v Speaker 1>okahka and tying into the idea of something dying young

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<v Speaker 1>and it's prime. That's what Japanese Kamakazi pilots were called

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<v Speaker 1>in World War Two Oka, and that's what they're planes.

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<v Speaker 1>They're essentially human driven missile planes were called Oka as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had like cherry blossoms painted on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the plane.

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<v Speaker 2>That symbolism all over the place. So let's take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>We've covered some of Japan, and now we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about DC right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh and.

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<v Speaker 2>South here, all right, So we promised talk of Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. The most famous purveyor provider rather of cherry

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<v Speaker 2>blossoms here in the United States. And it all started

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<v Speaker 2>on March twenty eighth, nineteen twelve, when the Washington Post

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<v Speaker 2>ran a little story with the headline, missus Taft plants

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<v Speaker 2>a tree. And that is when Helen Nellie Taft, wife

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<v Speaker 2>of William Howard Taft, the President, planted a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>cherry blossom trees that were gifts from Tokyo. But the

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<v Speaker 2>story is a little more interesting than that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, apparently the Washington Post journalist left in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of it just a plant's a treat, So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even a correct ineffective headline. Yeah, but yes, that is

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<v Speaker 1>just the broad stroke. That's the end result of decades

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<v Speaker 1>of organizing and campaigning by a woman named Eliza Skidmore.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the first board member of Sorry, the first

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<v Speaker 1>woman board member of the National geographic Society. She was

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<v Speaker 1>very well traveled. She loved to go to Japan, and

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<v Speaker 1>so having traveled to Japan, she had been exposed to

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<v Speaker 1>the cherry blossoms and was like, these are the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>things ever. We should get some of these back in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure that she thought this would be no

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<v Speaker 1>problem whatsoever. Well, fast forward almost thirty years and she

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<v Speaker 1>finally gets this thing done, but it's thanks to the

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<v Speaker 1>intervention of two other people who just also happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be men.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, I do love this quote though. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to read it because it just shows how enchanted

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<v Speaker 2>she was Potomac Park there on the river, they were

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<v Speaker 2>reclaiming it at the time, and this was an eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five and she wrote that basically like they had

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<v Speaker 2>to plant something there in this space, and she said

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<v Speaker 2>they might as well plant the most beautiful thing in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, the Japanese cherry tree. Yeah, it's very sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you mentioned a couple of dudes. One guy

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<v Speaker 2>was named David Fairchild. And it's kind of cool when

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<v Speaker 2>you look back at how all these convergent things kind

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<v Speaker 2>of take place to make something happen. I love stories

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<v Speaker 2>like this, but This was a guy who was the

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<v Speaker 2>He worked at the USDA, which is a new thing

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<v Speaker 2>at the time for our Department of Agriculture. Is a

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<v Speaker 2>job that I want. I don't if they still have it.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was a plant explorer, so he would travel

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<v Speaker 2>all over the world looking for plants that they could

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<v Speaker 2>cultivate in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>They do not still have that, man, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't imagine anything better.

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<v Speaker 1>They had it until like last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, and I wish told me so.

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<v Speaker 1>David Child was like, Hey, these actually can work in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. I think he transplanted a few and showed

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<v Speaker 1>that they could live. Skidmore found out about this, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, Okay, I'm going to try one last time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get in touch with this new first lady,

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<v Speaker 1>Nellie Taft, and I'm going to say, please, for love God,

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<v Speaker 1>hear me out about these cherry trees. Everybody thinks it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea. Please, let's start planning cherry trees in DC.

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<v Speaker 1>She got a reply two days later after she sent

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<v Speaker 1>the letter, and Nellie Taff said, I have taken up

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<v Speaker 1>the matter, and the promised the trees, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden things just started looking up for Eliza Skidmore's idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, after twenty five years, can't imagine how

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<v Speaker 2>she felt. She got in touch with a guy named

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Takamini who was a wealthy Japanese chemist, and he

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<v Speaker 2>had been beating the cherry tree drum for New York

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<v Speaker 2>City for a while and she knew this. They were

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<v Speaker 2>fellow enthusiasts. So she said, hey, missus taff said, like,

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<v Speaker 2>she's going to try to make this thing happen. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, I'm a wealthy Japanese chemist, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can pull some strings. Why don't we make this like

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<v Speaker 2>an official, like state gift from Japan to the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>The great idea. So Japan said, here are two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>cherry blossom trees, and also here's a bunch of insects

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<v Speaker 1>and disease in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately they're lousy with Japanese beetles and god knows what

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<v Speaker 1>disease that cherry trees get. Yeah, so they had to

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<v Speaker 1>burn them. And Japan was like, did you have to

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<v Speaker 1>like take a photograph and send it to us of

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<v Speaker 1>all the cherry trees burning. Yeah, So they send them

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand more and those are the ones that included

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<v Speaker 1>the two that missus Taff planted. The next day after those,

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<v Speaker 1>that second shipment of three and twenty healthy trees arrived.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they hedge their bets and sent the extra

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<v Speaker 2>thousand plus twenty, which is kind of funny. They line

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<v Speaker 2>the title basin there in DC Potomac Park kind of

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<v Speaker 2>right there around was it the Jefferson Memorial? I think, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gorgeous. If you've ever been there, I know you

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<v Speaker 2>lived in DC, right, so she's probably all over that.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet oh, all over she would roll in them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Park rangers would be like, please, you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>do that again. I can't help myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's DC. You know peak bloom you can,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Josh said earlier, you never know exactly when it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen. So it's kind of one of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be heartbreaking if you, you know, have to

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<v Speaker 2>book your ticket ahead of time and you have no

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<v Speaker 2>flexibility in your schedule. There have been plenty of people

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<v Speaker 2>that missed the Cherry Bloom in DC when they have

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<v Speaker 2>gone just for that, So yeah, I know it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>super sad when that happens. So maybe don't aim. This

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<v Speaker 2>is my advice, maybe don't aim for peak bloom. Just

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<v Speaker 2>try and be there at some point during that that timeframe.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is something to see. You're just surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>blooming cherry trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can also I mean, if you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>it to DC, or you made it and you miss

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<v Speaker 1>your mark, you can plant a cherry tree. They're really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I would recommend the autumn analysis because they're not only

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<v Speaker 1>blooms in the spring. It blooms in the autumn. Two

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<v Speaker 1>do you have one? No, I planted plenty of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do not. We have a weeping cherry. It

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<v Speaker 1>only blooms once a year. Is that why it's said, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like an autumn.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I have not. Oh man, have I seen

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<v Speaker 2>the DC. I don't know if I've actually seen the

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<v Speaker 2>DC bloom. I feel like I did one time visiting

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<v Speaker 2>my sister years ago. But I also think I would

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<v Speaker 2>have known it because there's so many more trees than

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<v Speaker 2>even the ones in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I've not seen the DC ones unless I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't remember them. But we were in Japan around

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<v Speaker 1>this time, but a little before it was, so there

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<v Speaker 1>was some sporadic blooming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing I do remember is that the Starbucks

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<v Speaker 1>there had a sakura like coffee latte. Oh, they just

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<v Speaker 1>made up a taste because obviously cherry blossoms don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a taste. But it's one of the best tasting lattes

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever had, and of course it was right.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you recall a note an e flat wiseacre?

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<v Speaker 1>You got anything else?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Just you know, it's not just DC and Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>These things grow and temperate climates all over the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're certainly planted a lot for you know, tourism

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<v Speaker 2>and the wow factor, so you can you can see

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<v Speaker 2>them all over the place. So just if DC and

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<v Speaker 2>Japan are off the map for you, you can probably

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<v Speaker 2>find some nearby.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. I think that's it for short stuff, right, Yeah,

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