Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, how are you? I'm okay, how are you?
Speaker 2: Friend all?
Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I wish I could hug you right now.
Speaker 3: I know me too, I can see me too.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, is it summer break yet?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: And uh is that maddening if you could look at
Speaker 2: like the art.
Speaker 3: My office is like the guest bedroom also, and it
Speaker 3: is just stacked with Scarlett's going to sleep away camp
Speaker 3: a couple of days. She's totally terrified at first. Well,
Speaker 3: she went once for a week, which was like a
Speaker 3: total shi t show. It was like bad wound up
Speaker 3: being like.
Speaker 2: Her entire class of girls.
Speaker 3: And like it just was wrong. It was like taking
Speaker 3: the school playground and then putting it in camp. Like
Speaker 3: it wasn't supposed to be like that. So somebody like
Speaker 3: broke their foot, people were fighting, you know, it was
Speaker 3: like ridiculous. So this is really the first time she's
Speaker 3: going for two weeks on the East coast, and so anyway,
Speaker 3: it's like stacked with you know, like all the stuff.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, that's okay, I have a podcast
Speaker 2: in the corner of my room. It's like bad kids.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm allowed. This is my work space.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 2: Wait, I have chills, and you're totally relaxed about it
Speaker 2: and it's not even my kid, Like, oh that would
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 3: I also, well, she she's an only child, right, so
Speaker 3: all this there are a whole host of things that
Speaker 3: she doesn't learn from just having to like share her space,
Speaker 3: her time, her focus like with other people.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: So this away camp is like super important for her
Speaker 3: to have agency and kind of grow up a little bit.
Speaker 3: Like she's super mature in one way in the sense
Speaker 3: that she can be around adults and can you know,
Speaker 3: have those conversations, but she also is a little bit
Speaker 3: like can you get me the water? And I don't
Speaker 3: want to do that? And I don't want to do that,
Speaker 3: like just sort of does what she wants to do.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. It just seems like super important.
Speaker 3: So I'm a little nervous too, like I'm going to
Speaker 3: miss her more probably than she will ultimately miss me.
Speaker 3: But it just feels like super important, like it has
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 2: My kid just got her driver's license first one on.
Speaker 3: That Holy that feels scary to me.
Speaker 2: That feels I mean, at this point I wish you'd
Speaker 2: go to sleep away camp like this is I'm like,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen her.
Speaker 3: Right, She's like bye bye.
Speaker 2: Literally, I'm like whoa. And this is the one out
Speaker 2: of the five that was I would say the cleaniest.
Speaker 2: When she was younger, interesting, and I always had such worries,
Speaker 2: like like at times she would be like knitting next
Speaker 2: to me in bed and I'm like, you're fourteen, Like
Speaker 2: are you sure you don't want to go hang out
Speaker 2: with friends? She's like, oh my good, do you want
Speaker 2: to put on a movie? And I'm like, oh no.
Speaker 2: This is what.
Speaker 3: Worries me about my daughter. So this has made me
Speaker 3: feel better that she.
Speaker 2: She is not like fly be free transformation, like and
Speaker 2: this just happened. I would say last year, she's seventeen.
Speaker 2: Last year friend group all of a sudden, like it
Speaker 2: just everything changed. Now she got her license and it's
Speaker 2: just like bye bye.
Speaker 3: Especially in LA because everything you just you need a car,
Speaker 3: Like it's so so you really do you know, We're
Speaker 3: in San Francisco and it's you still you can't like
Speaker 3: walk everywhere, but it's such a small city that you
Speaker 3: know they'll just probably could just it's not you know
Speaker 3: it's not. I don't feel like it's as much of
Speaker 3: a you know, like a win for them. Like I
Speaker 3: don't know if she even wants to learn how to drive.
Speaker 2: Well, my eight year old he's fine with uber, right, firstborn. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's like, nah, I'm good, I'll get to it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, Like when you were sixteen, did you
Speaker 2: get your license right away?
Speaker 3: I got? I remember I was dots in a dots
Speaker 3: in five ten and that was like one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty years old when I started driving it. Yeah, loved.
Speaker 3: I think it's like sixteen. I think I think I
Speaker 3: was sixteen. But it was like that conditional one you couldn't.
Speaker 3: I could drive to school and work and then I
Speaker 3: would get busted. Like I would drive out at lunch
Speaker 3: and be like smoking out the window with like ten
Speaker 3: people in the car and then seeing my mom, you know, no,
Speaker 3: and I was pretend like it wasn't me. Is if
Speaker 3: she you know, I'd be like, oh, I don't even
Speaker 3: see what are you talking about? That wasn't me, And
Speaker 3: she's like, I'm looking right at you. It is you,
Speaker 3: and you're driving and you're not supposed to be driving.
Speaker 3: That I really yeah, Like you.
Speaker 2: Couldn't no back then. But back then they had to
Speaker 2: like go on foot or car or horse and buggy
Speaker 2: and trust and track us down. Like now, it's just
Speaker 2: like life three sixty. I know, I'm not like people
Speaker 2: are like I have TikTok addictions. I'm like I have
Speaker 2: Life three sixty addictions. Right, I will, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: I will sit and just stare at it. And it's
Speaker 2: like I can see all five, like not all five
Speaker 2: because bows home with me, but four of them moving,
Speaker 2: and I'm just.
Speaker 3: Like la la la, Oh my god, this is like
Speaker 3: fixated Harry Potter map. Did you guys ever watch Harry Potter.
Speaker 3: I'm still a Harry Potter fan. It's a night like
Speaker 3: comfortable safe place that map where they could see all
Speaker 3: the little feet the Marauders map. I forgot about it.
Speaker 3: You could watch all the little feet traveling around. I
Speaker 3: do feel it. Don't you think that there is like
Speaker 3: a but there's there has to be some sort of
Speaker 3: a balance between we get you know too much about
Speaker 3: our kids, Like we're too aware of what they're doing
Speaker 3: all the time, which is good for like safety, but
Speaker 3: then also I feel like, how do I let go
Speaker 3: of her? Like there's a certain amount of like they're
Speaker 3: supposed to do stuff on their own, you know, right,
Speaker 3: Whether it's like I try not to curate her life,
Speaker 3: but in some regard it's like if we don't create
Speaker 3: things to do, I don't know, she's like staring at
Speaker 3: a screen anyway. I've been thinking about this more and
Speaker 3: more of how like when she gets older, I'm probably
Speaker 3: going to be just like that, like where is she
Speaker 3: all the time?
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that's just my personal It's like an
Speaker 2: OCD thing, Like I'm not even that she's a good girl,
Speaker 2: so I'm not even that worried about her. It's like
Speaker 2: little known. Sorry, this interviews about you and I'm talking
Speaker 2: about me. But so it's like, yeah, here we go,
Speaker 2: let's talk about whatever. When I'm on an airplane and
Speaker 2: there's a screen, my favorite thing to watch is the
Speaker 2: airplane and tracking it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that too.
Speaker 2: For hours, people are like, do you know that's on?
Speaker 2: There's like movies here and TV shows. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it's my safe place. I like to just look at it.
Speaker 2: And that's what I do with life. Three sixty.
Speaker 3: There is something about that that plane thing that is
Speaker 3: suit that thing of watching that's soothing to me because
Speaker 3: it feels like life is suspended somehow, like I don't
Speaker 3: there's nothing really I'm supposed to be doing because I'm
Speaker 3: up in the air, so I have all this time
Speaker 3: to just sort of be, especially if I'm flying by myself,
Speaker 3: it's like heaven, Like really.
Speaker 2: I wanted too, Yeah, I could never. I mean my
Speaker 2: I have a fear of flying. I'm not like em
Speaker 2: Sugarman on a plane, but like I it's yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Ioughly forgot that. But you're getting better, right, getting better? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you've done it.
Speaker 2: You've done it by much semi refer formed scared flyer.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean that's probably why you get comfort out of
Speaker 3: watching the thing, because it's like, oh, we haven't we
Speaker 3: haven't crashed, We're still.
Speaker 2: Going, We're still in the still up there. I used
Speaker 2: to always have to look out the window and just
Speaker 2: like tracking, and people are like, we want to sleep,
Speaker 2: like we want the window shades down. And then I'm
Speaker 2: always like if I can, like I have to have
Speaker 2: a window seat. And I know people are probably like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's so bougie, like she like she's such a diva,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, no, no, I just need to look
Speaker 2: out the plane window because like Twilight Son traumatized me
Speaker 2: when I was young that there was like a little
Speaker 2: green man on the plane wing. Uh huh my god,
Speaker 2: Twilight's so oh I just pulled back.
Speaker 3: But still you're talking about like the original Like O G,
Speaker 3: I remember there were two that scared the Bejesus out
Speaker 3: of which too.
Speaker 2: I love this question.
Speaker 3: You realize that these people are trying to get like
Speaker 3: climb out of this thing and then in the end
Speaker 3: they fall out of it's a lamp post and they
Speaker 3: fall into the snow.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you just rode it for everyone who hasn't
Speaker 2: seen it. Oh wait, I love that one, the ballerinas
Speaker 2: in the box.
Speaker 3: Yes, something that there was another one with the mask
Speaker 3: those like yes, looking all I have an image of that.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what it was about, but like.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it right now. One's like a pig
Speaker 2: snout mask. It in my head. Oh wait, did you
Speaker 2: like this one? The one where they used to dive
Speaker 2: into the pool and they'd go down and they would
Speaker 2: come up somewhere else. Yes, Yes, that one, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: the one. I'm getting so excited right now.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they were super scary, like the I mean,
Speaker 3: that's a lot of years ago, and those images completely
Speaker 3: are embedded in my brain.
Speaker 2: I can't get them out. Like and you guys like
Speaker 2: we're talking about well, I don't know if we're talking
Speaker 2: about the same one, but we're talking about the black
Speaker 2: and white version.
Speaker 3: Black and white version.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that were that old of you guys, But
Speaker 2: that's what we did have color TV TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was colored when we were kids, but there
Speaker 3: was also some black and white.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I just remember every summer Fourth of July
Speaker 2: they would screen all of them from like morning till midnight.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: It was God.
Speaker 3: So I feel like I always wound up hitting on
Speaker 3: the same episodes, Like I bet I haven't seen everyone same,
Speaker 3: Like I see the same ones.
Speaker 2: Wait, I wonder if that's a sign.
Speaker 3: That felt like, oh that's this is what I'm supposed
Speaker 3: to see this.
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, like energetically you were supposed to
Speaker 2: see those interesting. Actually I want my kids to watch it,
Speaker 2: but I feel like they'd be like black and white,
Speaker 2: I know, because the remake ones weren't the same for me.
Speaker 3: No, they were No, No, they were Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Want to talk to you about Clueless, but I feel
Speaker 2: like everybody talks to you about Clueless. Okay, I mean
Speaker 2: they did. We're known for Clueless.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just had a moment about this
Speaker 3: because we they just screened the film at the Academy
Speaker 3: last weekend and we did this panel Alicia Brecken, Mona,
Speaker 3: Mae Marshall, Ross and I and it was really you know, again,
Speaker 3: we're asked to like talk about this all the time,
Speaker 3: but something First of all, the event was super fun
Speaker 3: and like really special, and there was something about that
Speaker 3: event where I really just kind of settled in and
Speaker 3: I realized, oh, this movie really impacted people, like they
Speaker 3: really love it, and I don't That sounds so stupid
Speaker 3: that I am just realizing that, but it's almost like,
Speaker 3: I mean, I knew that obviously, but I felt like
Speaker 3: I really appreciated it in a new way that I
Speaker 3: hadn't before, where I don't have any kind of I
Speaker 3: don't have any weird feelings about it, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't like I did know that I did before. Your
Speaker 3: feelings like we're not weird, but sort of like it's impossible,
Speaker 3: And I know you get this too, you know, it's
Speaker 3: impossible to separate yourself from that when you're so associated
Speaker 3: with something right, So it's like it just inherently is
Speaker 3: a part of yours. If people ask like, oh, how
Speaker 3: does it feel to do this, well, I don't know,
Speaker 3: because I don't know what it.
Speaker 2: Feels like to not right.
Speaker 3: So I guess the weird feelings being. I think the
Speaker 3: older that I get, the more appreciative I am of it,
Speaker 3: and the more I think distance helps to just kind
Speaker 3: of really have gratitude, to see it with clarity, and
Speaker 3: the things that were hard about it are no longer hard.
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't feel as.
Speaker 2: You've compartmentalized the trauma that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, you know, because there are like
Speaker 3: the years there's some years where I just felt like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, what am I doing with my life?
Speaker 3: No matter what else I do, no matter what other
Speaker 3: projects I do, people, I really the way I would
Speaker 3: do it. What are you doing right now? I'm like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I'm doing this movie or this show. It's like, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: well we don't care about that, Like we don't. You know,
Speaker 3: it feels like your life has no meaning or something.
Speaker 3: So that is like a personal sort of adjustment that
Speaker 3: I had to go through, of feeling like I, you know,
Speaker 3: I may never have an experience like that again, and
Speaker 3: that's a huge gift that I had in the first place,
Speaker 3: you know, and sort of just moving through it all
Speaker 3: and all the things that's allowed me to do, you know,
Speaker 3: an artist as a creative person, as it gets, really
Speaker 3: afforded me many many other things in life that I
Speaker 3: feel really appreciative for. So I guess that's what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't feel any I don't know, I just.
Speaker 2: Like, how old were you when you got that girl?
Speaker 3: I was twenty, no, twenty hyman and I was twenty
Speaker 3: two one or twenty too, And so you know, I
Speaker 3: had done one other I moved to LA from New
Speaker 3: York and so because really what happened the year was it?
Speaker 3: The year before? No, that summer I tested for nine
Speaker 3: O two one zero. It was Tiffany oh right, and
Speaker 3: Meredith and the three of us, And obviously Tiffany got
Speaker 3: the role.
Speaker 2: Meredith for Valerie. Yeah, like wait, Meredith Salander, Yes, yes.
Speaker 3: It was the three of us. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I loved her in the Journey of nat Again when
Speaker 2: I was a kid, Oh my god. And then we
Speaker 2: went on to go to school together. Oh you did, yes?
Speaker 3: Oh I wait, I never.
Speaker 2: Knew that she was at the third one testing.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I didn't know anybody, right, I didn't know Tiffany,
Speaker 3: I didn't know Meredith. I didn't I was like petrified.
Speaker 3: I remember your dad being so nice to me from
Speaker 3: the beginning, Like he just was so kind. I was like,
Speaker 3: ohh and I was super nervous. And then didn't get
Speaker 3: the job obviously, and then I went back to New
Speaker 3: York for like a month, moved to LA and I
Speaker 3: started working on Blossom, that TV show Blossom with my
Speaker 3: and they hired me for one episode and then we
Speaker 3: had great chemistry. I was playing Joey's like girlfriend love interest,
Speaker 3: and then they started they wrote more episodes for me,
Speaker 3: and then I got clueless, and then I couldn't do
Speaker 3: the show anymore. So everything kind of like happened quickly,
Speaker 3: and then gosh, and then I wound up going back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what if you had gotten nine O two and O.
Speaker 2: I know it would have changed your whole journey.
Speaker 3: It would have changed my whole journey. I would have
Speaker 3: like a whole other then.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait, like Amber Valerie, I don't know
Speaker 2: which one I would know.
Speaker 3: It isn't that crazy because I could never have done Clueless.
Speaker 3: If I would is doing nine O two and O
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't be named.
Speaker 2: Maybe Tiffany would have gotten the role of Amber. Maybe
Speaker 2: Tiffany would have Tiffany Aberthiesen. We just rewrote history. I
Speaker 2: mean obviously nine O two one I was very special
Speaker 2: to me and to you because you played gingerl Monica
Speaker 2: on it, But like Clueless, that's a whole nother entity.
Speaker 2: And maybe because I can see it from an outside
Speaker 2: perspective as a fangirl.
Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Gosh, you got the movie, you got the series. That
Speaker 2: was a much better choice. I'm so glad you didn't
Speaker 2: get that role. Thank you, Dad.
Speaker 3: Well, I remember, Yeah, he was so nice to me
Speaker 3: and he looked I just and so when I wound
Speaker 3: when I went back to audition for Ginger Jason, maybe
Speaker 3: he wasn't a producer before and then he became one,
Speaker 3: or maybe he was what wasn't in the room the
Speaker 3: first time, I don't know, but he was in there
Speaker 3: like for the final callback.
Speaker 2: And really I don't think he was a producer yet
Speaker 2: he wasn't.
Speaker 3: Maybe he was de see or maybe he was there
Speaker 3: because I had to work with me so much, with
Speaker 3: my character so much.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I remember Jason Priestley and they
Speaker 2: were just like, oh, do you want to come in? Great?
Speaker 3: Great, great, great, good anything, And he was so nice
Speaker 3: to me. I had such a great experience on that
Speaker 3: show with you guys. It was like, it was so nice,
Speaker 3: and I was totally freaking out because I was like
Speaker 3: newly recovered from anorexia and I was like measuring my
Speaker 3: food and being super weird, and I was like, everything's fine,
Speaker 3: very fine. How do you just eat my yogurt and
Speaker 3: my cereal? It's a half a cup? Like, I was
Speaker 3: so freaked out, but everybody was super nice and friendly,
Speaker 3: so I had a great time.
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Speaker 2: It's not interesting how we think about, like from our perspective,
Speaker 2: what other people might notice when and I try to
Speaker 2: teach my kids this every day, Like do you think
Speaker 2: they're thinking this about me? And I'm like, they're thinking
Speaker 2: about themselves, like you know about and no, that's I'm
Speaker 2: fifty two. That's I think I just learned this like
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 3: Yep, right, it longed me forever.
Speaker 2: To learn, Like that person looking at me weird that
Speaker 2: do they hate me? Do they What are they thinking?
Speaker 2: Do they not like what I'm wearing? It's like no,
Speaker 2: they're thinking about like the fifty things they need to
Speaker 2: get done one day. They're like looking right through you, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, completely. I feel like that's the best lesson that
Speaker 3: we could teach our kids. Like my daughter is thirteen
Speaker 3: right now, she's newly thirteen, and she's like a little thirteen.
Speaker 3: She hasn't gone through puberty yet, but some many of
Speaker 3: her friends have, and so she is like I can
Speaker 3: see her confidence starting to flail like should I were
Speaker 3: Before she would just wear like you know, basketball shorts
Speaker 3: or sweatpants, like that's what she's interested in. Now she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: does this match this? And should I wear this? And
Speaker 3: should I? And I like that she's starting to care
Speaker 3: about kind of what she wears. But at the same
Speaker 3: time can feel her starting to like lose her mojo
Speaker 3: and she's like super unique and I do not want
Speaker 3: her to lose that. And it's so hard to just
Speaker 3: kind of sit back and be supportive but not try
Speaker 3: to control the situation. But that confidence is so key
Speaker 3: to you know, for girls especially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, I don't know how to tell
Speaker 2: them to maintain I don't know. God, all of our
Speaker 2: lives would be so much different if we never lost
Speaker 2: that youth confidence, like oh my gosh. And sometimes it
Speaker 2: takes one thing, like it's one word that someone doesn't
Speaker 2: even remember they said, and you're like, change my whole life,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, I wish we could take that part out,
Speaker 2: like everything else I'd like to leave in, like, you know,
Speaker 2: even the bad stuff, like the heartbreak they'll experience like
Speaker 2: that it's part of their journey. But if you take
Speaker 2: out like that, that one moment when you start to
Speaker 2: like question yourself physically, it's like oh.
Speaker 3: Right right, it's like I I you know, and then
Speaker 3: I don't want to put my own you know, my
Speaker 3: is youth from that time are not hers, you know.
Speaker 3: So I don't need to be like, you know, worried.
Speaker 3: I worry about her. I want her to get enough nutrition.
Speaker 3: I so I have to like talk about food differently
Speaker 3: than I would, but I have to not be like
Speaker 3: you need to eat something, you know. So I'm like
Speaker 3: trying not to make her crazy, which who knows whether
Speaker 3: I'm succeeding, but uh, you know, like I don't want
Speaker 3: to put my stuff onto her. But also because I'm
Speaker 3: a big fan of being a weirdo. Like I was
Speaker 3: a weird kid, I was like, I'm cool with that.
Speaker 3: I think it is like great to be an individual
Speaker 3: and like.
Speaker 2: Just be love. Yeah, me too. I don't think I'm
Speaker 2: conditioned to be a weird kid. But I definitely was.
Speaker 3: I mean, you probably because you were in like you
Speaker 3: were just in the public eye, whether or not you
Speaker 3: were on TV, yet like that was your whole world.
Speaker 3: Was THEO was people that that certainly had to care
Speaker 3: about what they looked like and you know that was
Speaker 3: like just a part of what you grew up with, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember the first time that I wanted to dress
Speaker 2: differently than what was expected of me as a young kid.
Speaker 2: And a friend's mom took us to Melrose And it
Speaker 2: was in the eighties, late eighties, so I was probably
Speaker 2: like eleven twelve, and I came home with a head
Speaker 2: to toe orange Neon outfit.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 2: Everyone's like it. Yeah, everyone wears me on. It's like
Speaker 2: no like in our day in the eighties, Like it
Speaker 2: was like shocking and new and like mesh like the gloves,
Speaker 2: like thinking Madonna, but like and I had the bow orange.
Speaker 2: I chose of all colors like bright orange. And I
Speaker 2: just remember like my mom trying to be very encouraging,
Speaker 2: but she was probably like what is going on?
Speaker 3: She was like, oh, people are going to give her
Speaker 3: a hard time about.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I wore it out once and
Speaker 2: I was like okay now, but I'd say, wait, who
Speaker 2: else audition for Amber?
Speaker 3: I feel like I heard stories of Sarah Michelle Geller
Speaker 3: because it was like they were she might have auditioned
Speaker 3: for Share too. But there were no auditions for for
Speaker 3: Alicia for Share because Amy already decided that she wanted Alicia.
Speaker 3: She had the script and she was was already in development.
Speaker 3: And then she saw Alicia in in the I think
Speaker 3: the Arabs with the videos and she was like, this
Speaker 3: is the girl. So it was always she was always
Speaker 3: going to be Share. So it must have been Amber
Speaker 3: that Sarah auditioned for and somebody else too, like of
Speaker 3: the nineties ilk of that that.
Speaker 2: Time, one of those nineties girls. I was with Alicia
Speaker 2: the night she got like the firm offer, like it
Speaker 2: was happening really, yes, Oh I love that because we
Speaker 2: had met because her boyfriend at the time, I was
Speaker 2: dating his friend, and we became fast friends. And I
Speaker 2: just remember she got it like she was like, it's happening,
Speaker 2: it's going through. And we went to Jones.
Speaker 3: The Italian place.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was like dark boots and everything, and then
Speaker 2: they had the bar area yeah, and she was like,
Speaker 2: let's go to dinner to celebrate, and we went. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I didn't know that you
Speaker 2: guys were like friends.
Speaker 3: I love her so much. We just got when we
Speaker 3: did nineties Con when I saw you for the first
Speaker 3: time and yes, which is now a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: I guess that night we had we had just done
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl commercial together a couple months before, but
Speaker 3: we didn't.
Speaker 2: Have any time, which was so radh my god.
Speaker 3: Hang out.
Speaker 2: That was like surreal to be in the They started
Speaker 2: that trend going on, like now all ninety stuff nostalgia,
Speaker 2: like everyone's coming back and doing commercials. I love it, Brian,
Speaker 2: and I just did too, but like you did yay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you and Alicia bitterly but.
Speaker 3: She So we didn't have a lot of time when
Speaker 3: we were shooting to like hang out, catch up anything,
Speaker 3: but at nineties Con we did and we went we
Speaker 3: had dinner that night this Saturday, and it was the
Speaker 3: first time where we got to be like, oh, oh,
Speaker 3: I like you, how are you? Like we're grown nile
Speaker 3: and we talked about our own experiences of that time
Speaker 3: and it was so wonderful, Like I just loved it
Speaker 3: because you know, we could talk about it in a
Speaker 3: real way where all of the guys are like, oh,
Speaker 3: it was so great. We were like playing basketball in
Speaker 3: between shots and it was totally cool. And meanwhile, you know,
Speaker 3: the girls are like, oh, I'm totally stressed out, like
Speaker 3: this is really hard. Do I look? Okay? Am I doing?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And Alicia was like a million hours a day, you know.
Speaker 3: So it just was really nice to talk about it
Speaker 3: in a real way because obviously we're so grateful for it.
Speaker 3: It's was a wonderful experience to have, you know. And
Speaker 3: I felt like, oh, I guess it was my first movie,
Speaker 3: so I felt like, oh, this is just how it works.
Speaker 2: When everything you do becomes a huge hit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he becomes a huge hit. That's how I felt
Speaker 3: with dn't are the directors Like women write and direct everything.
Speaker 3: They tell everyone what to do, and they're awesome and
Speaker 3: they're geniuses. They hire the right people. I wish everything's perfect,
Speaker 3: you know. And then of course you realize, oh, that
Speaker 3: was a very unique situation, you know. I mean, Amy
Speaker 3: was like she was incredible, and that was very unusual
Speaker 3: for that time to have a female writer director that,
Speaker 3: even though she had already done fast times as a writer,
Speaker 3: she like, it was unusual for a studio movie for
Speaker 3: them to allow that, and she was like incredible in
Speaker 3: the wardrobe.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the wardrobe.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, it was really and that too,
Speaker 3: you know, as an actor to have like that, the
Speaker 3: wardrobe totally informed who my character was, like it was
Speaker 3: a part of her. And that's such a help as
Speaker 3: an actor to have things like it just helps you
Speaker 3: to create such a specific person. And I loved that
Speaker 3: so much, Like mona genius, genius, genius and so fun,
Speaker 3: like just so much fun.
Speaker 2: I would love to pick a brain link and hear
Speaker 2: the backstory of where that inspiration of everything came because
Speaker 2: it's just so unique. Nothing's been done like it since. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and she But I wonder how many people dressed up
Speaker 2: as you for Halloween? No, no, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: There was actually my my a friend of my husband's
Speaker 3: from college when my husband and I first met and
Speaker 3: the first time I met this friend who lives somewhere
Speaker 3: in the Midwest, and he's like, oh, remember when we
Speaker 3: met and you were dressed like your character for Halloween?
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, I didn't do that, and
Speaker 3: he said no, no, yeah you remember and you said, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's really me but and I said no, I'm a
Speaker 3: hundred percent sir, and I have never dressed as myself
Speaker 3: for Halloween. And I thought, like, what are Everybody is
Speaker 3: so like, one, did he really think that I would
Speaker 3: dress hisself for Halloween? And then two I thought some
Speaker 3: girl is like my doppelganger and convinced this guy that
Speaker 3: I was really meet, Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: The whole dresses Amber or dress your dressed as Amber?
Speaker 3: Can you imagine I was if I dressed as Amber
Speaker 3: for Halloween?
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at the idea that what it means,
Speaker 2: and like not say anything and just walk in and
Speaker 2: people be like, yeah, so we will be so excited.
Speaker 2: And then there'd be the girls that'd be like, who
Speaker 2: does she think she is?
Speaker 4: What? You love?
Speaker 2: God? Oh my god? People.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd be like, wow, she really can't let it go.
Speaker 2: She can't let go my gosh. What Okay? So what
Speaker 2: if you dressed as Amber and I dressed as Donna
Speaker 2: and then we just went out about for the day
Speaker 2: just to see yeah, and just acted like yours is
Speaker 2: more iconic. It's hard to like really get an you're
Speaker 2: very specific.
Speaker 3: It would be hard to know, like you'd have to
Speaker 3: cut your hair like her or do something or right. No,
Speaker 3: but even if you just wore one of the outfits
Speaker 3: from that time, we would look that.
Speaker 2: Would be okay. But it so hard to know because
Speaker 2: all of those outfits are back in now.
Speaker 3: So oh my gosh, that's so crazy.
Speaker 2: Now it's leading into Y two K and I'm not
Speaker 2: okay with that. Like, no, I wasn't as excited about
Speaker 2: that trying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's like at least stick. The nineties were a happy,
Speaker 3: brighter time.
Speaker 2: Yes, so they should like, yeah, everyone needs to milk them.
Speaker 2: Milk the nineties as long as possible.
Speaker 3: Milk it, milk it.
Speaker 2: Okay. So, speaking of nineties, con Joey Fatone was there. Yes,
Speaker 2: you've dated, so we.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it looks like I'm blushing. I am
Speaker 3: not blushed.
Speaker 4: What I love.
Speaker 3: Yes, we did date. Yes we did. Now that was
Speaker 3: a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course. And I look how you're clarifying this.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: He cracks me up because that you know, we did
Speaker 3: the music video. Also because they did an episode in
Speaker 3: sanc did an episode of Clueless, and so that's how
Speaker 3: we met. And then we would all just go out together.
Speaker 3: I don't really know how it happened, but anyway.
Speaker 2: We wait. Was that was that the time that you
Speaker 2: told me you might have made out in the dressing
Speaker 2: room with him?
Speaker 3: So there was there was a moment when.
Speaker 2: My blending boys or that's the same boy.
Speaker 3: No, just just only in Joey so he had started
Speaker 3: dating or whatever you would call it at the time.
Speaker 2: And then uh as the kids would say, you guys
Speaker 2: were talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you were ducks.
Speaker 2: Su ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And then they all, well not everybody. Joey, Justin and
Speaker 3: Chris came back to set. We were shooting the last
Speaker 3: what turned out through the last episode of the series,
Speaker 3: and they came to visit on set, and so we
Speaker 3: were on location and and yeah we were. We had
Speaker 3: a nice time, and then they left and we still were.
Speaker 3: You know, like I went I went to I don't
Speaker 3: even know. I feel like I was on their tour
Speaker 3: bus for a little bit or a night or two.
Speaker 3: What Yeah, like, yeah, I definitely went to a couple
Speaker 3: of the concert. That's also when I realized, oh, people
Speaker 3: might like think clueless is cool and you know, I'm interesting,
Speaker 3: but whoa, people went absolutely bananas.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I've always wanted to see that. You were
Speaker 2: like a group friend for a minute. Yeah, so girlfriend, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just coined that is that exactly?
Speaker 3: They were at Staples Center, I think, or one of
Speaker 3: the huge venues in LA and I went and I
Speaker 3: went early to go hang out with them, So I
Speaker 3: must have taken a car, Like I don't even remember
Speaker 3: how I got there because I didn't have ubers then,
Speaker 3: but I guess a car probably. And I got out
Speaker 3: of the car and it was like they just the
Speaker 3: fans like swarmed me, and not because it was me,
Speaker 3: but because they knew I was going to see them, right,
Speaker 3: And I was actually like a little bit scared. They
Speaker 3: were crazy, and I just thought, how these guys are
Speaker 3: like the Beatles. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to date a rock star or star
Speaker 2: or a musician, just a musician.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they are rock stars, but I'm.
Speaker 2: A pop star. Musicians yeah, yeah, I can't fathom, Like
Speaker 2: we have one like platform that we know fans recognize
Speaker 2: us from. But that's like a whole nother level.
Speaker 3: Oh it is when it's you know, in person and
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people like screaming and crying for you,
Speaker 3: like girls were crying, you know in the audience, like
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, it was wild wild.
Speaker 2: Have you ever felt that way about seeing someone that
Speaker 2: was like a hero to you? Like you we can
Speaker 2: wanted to cry.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to meet Prince and I never actually
Speaker 3: when I was doing Nino too, and oh and you
Speaker 3: guys everybody had security right outside of their trailers on
Speaker 3: location right.
Speaker 2: Oh, Jenna and I were just talking about this and
Speaker 2: Amy like it must have been during a time when
Speaker 2: there was like.
Speaker 3: There was something, because I had one too. And yes,
Speaker 3: so my security guy, I was playing Prince in my
Speaker 3: trailer one day and he opened the no He's like,
Speaker 3: you know, I work for Prince and I was like.
Speaker 2: Oh, what what what?
Speaker 3: And he said to me, he kind of like burst
Speaker 3: my bubble. He said, He's like, Prince would really like you,
Speaker 3: but I don't think that you He's like, you don't
Speaker 3: want to know him. He sort of like made it
Speaker 3: seem like he was creepy or something. But I just
Speaker 3: would was like not hearing that. I would have loved.
Speaker 3: I did when he was doing those those final sort
Speaker 3: of what turned out to be final ish concerts in
Speaker 3: La Yeah, I did, and he was having people come
Speaker 3: on stage and dance with him. I did to get
Speaker 3: to go on stage and dance with him briefly, but
Speaker 3: I never I want to like hang out with him,
Speaker 3: you know. I want to like play ping pong with
Speaker 3: him or like, you know, shoot the breeze.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm picturing you and Prince playing ping pong.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not sure. So during the same
Speaker 2: time that I was friends with Alicia, I was also
Speaker 2: friends with Carmen Electra.
Speaker 3: Ah right, I bet she has some.
Speaker 2: So I heard some great stories. I heard really good
Speaker 2: stuff though, Oh good. She adored him happy, like yeah,
Speaker 2: creatively and stead. He was just like the kindest, actually
Speaker 2: really amazing stuff that she didn't have to say because
Speaker 2: I wasn't telling anyone except from telling meThe now. But
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it was all good stuff.
Speaker 2: I never heard anything that goadive. I remember when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, I was at Chasin's and Apollonia was there.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I know, I was.
Speaker 3: That's a star sighting.
Speaker 2: That's like a she.
Speaker 3: I mean that whole movie that time period. I snuck
Speaker 3: all of my friends into see Purple Rain when because
Speaker 3: it came out. I think when I was in eighth grade,
Speaker 3: I want to say, or seventh grade, sometime around then
Speaker 3: when we couldn't we weren't old enough to go. We
Speaker 3: weren't enough to go. So we'd like coerced. I coerced
Speaker 3: one grown up to buy an R rated ticket and
Speaker 3: then we all got PG tickets or must have been
Speaker 3: two because then I would go into the movie with
Speaker 3: somebody chade out the you know, yeah off the thing
Speaker 3: and we all went.
Speaker 2: In and I did the same thing you did, yes,
Speaker 2: or purple rain, No, just in general. It must have
Speaker 2: been because yeah, it wasn't allowed to go out like
Speaker 2: to Westwood was the area you could walk around if
Speaker 2: there was one parent, right, So I'm not sure, but yeah,
Speaker 2: after that, like we started doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a pretty it's pretty solid system
Speaker 3: that until they figured it out, but you know, it
Speaker 3: was a good way to There was a whole row,
Speaker 3: like whole row of us, and I was really the
Speaker 3: one driving the train. I was the one that was
Speaker 3: super into prints, like much more so than my friends.
Speaker 3: But I would like have them over. We'd go in
Speaker 3: the basement and I would like sing Prince songs where they.
Speaker 2: Were all sort of my gosh, favorite print song mine.
Speaker 3: The beautiful ones, the beautiful ones.
Speaker 2: Sure way, I'm like a raspberry worry girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's also they're all they're all amazing.
Speaker 3: I uh, yeah, I have like dreams about Prince.
Speaker 2: He's like, I feel, really, what does he do in
Speaker 2: your dreams?
Speaker 3: He sometimes he leads me around like shows me things,
Speaker 3: and other times he's been like, my it's like he's
Speaker 3: like my creative spiritual guide. I mean, it sounds crazy, but.
Speaker 2: No it doesn't.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 3: And then sometimes like he'll whisper. In one dream he
Speaker 3: whispered into my ear and he just said, you have
Speaker 3: to do it, like you have to be you like
Speaker 3: these things where I was like I woke up feeling
Speaker 3: like wait a second, did this happen? This is you know,
Speaker 3: after he's passed. Right, anyway, I'm going to go with
Speaker 3: that that he's my my guide in the.
Speaker 2: After kind lucky right, Yeah, my god, where where's mine?
Speaker 2: I want someone iconic? Oh my god, I believe it.
Speaker 2: Wait are they Are they going to do a reboot
Speaker 2: of Clueless?
Speaker 3: So at the Academy events, some of the press where
Speaker 3: they were asking that question and Amy there there is
Speaker 3: a TV series they have not Amy said, we don't
Speaker 3: know what it's going to be. We have no comment,
Speaker 3: like I have to say nothing about it. And then
Speaker 3: they tried to ask Alicia as if he wasn't sitting next.
Speaker 2: Let me just go down the line. Maybe one of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And she said the same thing like, we don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be happy with whatever we do. So
Speaker 3: I think they really haven't decided kind of what the
Speaker 3: storyline will be, or they're just not saying, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I have to do something. I love it. I hope
Speaker 3: Amber is in it.
Speaker 2: What is the weirdest DM you have ever gotten? Someone
Speaker 2: slid into your d MS regarding you or regarding your
Speaker 2: character Amber.
Speaker 3: I received a photograph of a tattoo on a man's
Speaker 3: arm that was of me as as Amber with the
Speaker 3: headband and the bangs and the black thing like all
Speaker 3: of it. And I think that's probably the worst. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was a full tattoo, like I'm not talking like
Speaker 3: a presslot, you know, like like a real.
Speaker 2: Tut Oh, I understand. Was it well done? Was it
Speaker 2: good artwork?
Speaker 3: It looked like me? It really did. And so I
Speaker 3: showed it to my husband and he was like, do
Speaker 3: we have to do something about this? Should we be concerned?
Speaker 3: And that is that I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't know, And that was it. He just wanted
Speaker 2: you to see it. Yep.
Speaker 3: Just like, look at how look at how awesome this is?
Speaker 3: And I felt like, I mean it is a great likeness.
Speaker 3: It really did look like me.
Speaker 2: Well that's a great honor. I mean it could have
Speaker 2: been creepier. It could have been like on.
Speaker 3: His ass, true, this is true things respectable place. It
Speaker 3: was on the bicep, so it.
Speaker 2: Was someone must have gotten a tattoo of flying at
Speaker 2: my nose. I mean, someone's done.
Speaker 3: I sure, I'm sure does somebody.
Speaker 2: If anyone knows anyone and I look around to the heaven,
Speaker 2: anyone talking to you listeners? Let us know.
Speaker 3: Do you read all of the I had some of it?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I am just realizing that there are the areas of
Speaker 3: messages in Instagram because I'm like living under a rock.
Speaker 3: The one you sort of like don't want to look
Speaker 3: at because it's all it's just like straight up porn.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, How do I find that? Guys?
Speaker 3: It's like the the I don't know the one, what's
Speaker 3: what are the headings? It's like you're general or primary general?
Speaker 2: Okay, go on your Instagram right now.
Speaker 3: The other one.
Speaker 2: And I just had a request looking in there, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh dear God, I need to stay
Speaker 2: out of there, tell me one thing, one thing, and
Speaker 2: then hidden requests hidden, I don't know, I have to.
Speaker 3: I delete them like every like every day like dick
Speaker 3: pics like super obscene. I haven't opened, but like why
Speaker 3: not me? Like I don't know why am I getting them?
Speaker 3: Why am I getting them?
Speaker 2: So it's so unlucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see here we go, it's in I feel it's
Speaker 3: in message requests, all this crazy, see all this crazy.
Speaker 2: It's all crazy. Wait I have them here. No one
Speaker 2: person's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's all. I will show you this if you you know,
Speaker 3: like I mean, it's very wacko. Let's see. And there's one.
Speaker 3: I'm very lonely. I don't I'm not cooking out any photos.
Speaker 3: I don't want any more of this, but literally it uses,
Speaker 3: but now I just delete them every one time.
Speaker 2: Did I get the hidden like blurred picture and I
Speaker 2: didn't know and I clicked it and oh dear god,
Speaker 2: like it was massive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a learning.
Speaker 2: My kids, like mom, why would you click on it?
Speaker 2: Do you know how much stuff you're going to get?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Like you're you gonna get spam? Like yeah, it was
Speaker 2: I know that's.
Speaker 3: What I'm so I've stopped doing it now and I
Speaker 3: do have less, but there's still you know, significant amount
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. What would Amber be like in a
Speaker 2: porn Oh? Really ask the same questions everyone was asked you.
Speaker 3: I think really demanding. She would have a lot.
Speaker 2: She would be a dom.
Speaker 3: Yes for sure, and then she would be very.
Speaker 2: Like, can't listen to this episode? Can she?
Speaker 3: Yeah, very difficult to please. I think would be the
Speaker 3: general vibe.
Speaker 2: Huh. But what's the soft side of her?
Speaker 3: So, you know, I do think she really just she
Speaker 3: just wants to be liked. She just wants to fit in.
Speaker 3: She wants to be you know, yes, she wants to
Speaker 3: be kind of cooler than everyone else, but she wants
Speaker 3: to be loved. That she just like tries so hard.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like she has flies to Paris for
Speaker 3: fashion week, takes it right off the runway, where is
Speaker 3: it to English class because she thinks, you know, that's
Speaker 3: going to get the attention of Share and everyone else,
Speaker 3: and then you know, kind of doesn't always work out
Speaker 3: for her.
Speaker 2: I know what, you were so vulnerable in that movie, though. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's so many times that a character like Amber could
Speaker 2: be played depending on the actor that is cast portrayed
Speaker 2: a very different way, and I just remember the first
Speaker 2: time watching it and just all the fields from your character,
Speaker 2: like oh my god, that character, like oh my god,
Speaker 2: that character, like you know, oh, that's so nice, which
Speaker 2: is why I think your character still resonates so much
Speaker 2: with people.
Speaker 3: But I think it's like you have to have all
Speaker 3: as a person. I don't know, I feel like because
Speaker 3: I generally, my truly my personality is like I I
Speaker 3: want to be kind, I want to be nice to
Speaker 3: people like that That's how who I am. And I
Speaker 3: think that helps play more kind of edgy, spiky characters
Speaker 3: because it makes it not one note, you know, or
Speaker 3: it feels like, oh, you feel some sort of kindness
Speaker 3: underneath this. Maybe I don't know, but I because I've
Speaker 3: played a lot like Sabrina, I pretty much play nine
Speaker 3: on two and O like say, I, you know, have
Speaker 3: not played the nicest of people.
Speaker 2: I make it's likable because you cannot be likable. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you were talking before about you know, such a unique
Speaker 2: situation and such a blessing to have been a part
Speaker 2: of Clueless, But not many people can say like you
Speaker 2: were such a part of so many iconic things clueless
Speaker 2: to bring to the teenage, which like it's just like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it is like you're the girl.
Speaker 3: I think that's the other thing that when I was saying,
Speaker 3: you know, I started to really embody a week ago
Speaker 3: that this one, right, that how impactful clueless was. I
Speaker 3: also simultaneously kind of realized, oh wow, this is unusual,
Speaker 3: Like I'm really fortunate to have been a part of
Speaker 3: so many things that have made such an impact. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's like doing nineties con that that year I went,
Speaker 3: this is like going back to college or something. I've
Speaker 3: worked with almost every person in this room, right, I
Speaker 3: was like it was so bizarre, and I just feel
Speaker 3: like I do feel really lucky in that way. I
Speaker 3: feel very fortunate. And so you know, when I I
Speaker 3: think it's important to really have as an adult a
Speaker 3: proper relationship with our past, right, no matter what you do,
Speaker 3: as you know, it's like growing up and moving through
Speaker 3: whatever challenges you have and finding gratitude and learning and
Speaker 3: becoming a deeper, bigger person and all of that. And
Speaker 3: it just is it's the same thing of being in
Speaker 3: the public eye. You know, if we don't kind of
Speaker 3: embody and embrace what has happened and what we've been
Speaker 3: given and deprived of at the same time. You know,
Speaker 3: we can't. You can't. You can't have a happy life,
Speaker 3: you know if I so, I feel really grateful for
Speaker 3: all of it. I do, and it's been you know, sure,
Speaker 3: I've had some bad experiences, but for the most part,
Speaker 3: all of those experiences have been so wonderful. Like all
Speaker 3: of you walking into nine o two and zero, you
Speaker 3: guys could have been real, you could have been just
Speaker 3: like not given me the time of day, and everybody
Speaker 3: was because you'd all been together for so long. The
Speaker 3: show is so successful. It's like plug and play. You
Speaker 3: don't have to like welcome a new person, you know,
Speaker 3: you just don't. And all of you were so kind
Speaker 3: to me, and I laughed so much and I had
Speaker 3: such a good time and very welcoming. And the same
Speaker 3: with Sabrina. I mean, Melissa is like she's like a unicorn.
Speaker 3: She is so normal and I say that in like
Speaker 3: the best way, right, like un affected and she and
Speaker 3: she completely grew up in the business and she's so generous,
Speaker 3: super kind, works her tail off, she works so hard,
Speaker 3: and you know that's not I don't. I feel like
Speaker 3: that's not normal either, So I feel like I've gotten
Speaker 3: really lucky in that regard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was on Stave by the Bell. Well, I
Speaker 2: had done True Beverly Hills, the movie of Shelley Long,
Speaker 2: I had done Saved by the Bell. So when I
Speaker 2: started on nine O two and oh, I had been
Speaker 2: through experiences where.
Speaker 3: Wait by the Bell with Tiffany I did were there
Speaker 3: two Oh? I didn't know that. So you guys already
Speaker 3: knew each other.
Speaker 2: We did, Yeah, since we were fourteen. I think I
Speaker 2: started that, but I was Screeched's first girlfriend, and I
Speaker 2: actually was recurrying. And then it started to cross over
Speaker 2: when nine on two and O started and I went
Speaker 2: as a regular in nine. But that's where I really
Speaker 2: learned the importance of how you treat others on a set,
Speaker 2: because it's not easy coming into a group almost like
Speaker 2: a click, and you know you're there to do your
Speaker 2: craft and your work and you want to do the
Speaker 2: best job. But it's so much easier if there's acceptance
Speaker 2: and kindness and yes. And so I had some experiences
Speaker 2: that weren't the best and some that were great. But
Speaker 2: I really came into nine on two and zero leading
Speaker 2: with compassion for anyone that came on as a new member.
Speaker 3: It is so like it means so much to the
Speaker 3: people coming in. And so then that's how I learned
Speaker 3: to do the same. When I we did the series
Speaker 3: of Pulis as a series, I was very consciously kind
Speaker 3: to people and welcoming them in and doing that because
Speaker 3: it's hard. It's hard to be the new guy and
Speaker 3: you're only there for a short period, you know, it's
Speaker 3: just hard to come into those situations. And then I
Speaker 3: did the same with Sabrina when even though I was
Speaker 3: the new person, but then we were there for three years,
Speaker 3: you know, so it's like there's just no time for that.
Speaker 3: Like the egos, the like any I will say this,
Speaker 3: I think that I've always believed this, and I'm not
Speaker 3: going to name names, but when people are unkind and
Speaker 3: they are like ego driven and have bad attitudes and
Speaker 3: are cruel or however you want to characterize it, it
Speaker 3: comes back to haunt them. And I think, so I do,
Speaker 3: I do, and it doesn't It will always come out
Speaker 3: in the end, and those things never wouldn't We still
Speaker 3: hold those people having very difficult personal lives having lose it.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of ways that the universe pays
Speaker 3: pays it back, and I think it is and because
Speaker 3: when it's happening, I have had this experience of someone
Speaker 3: who who I worked with who was wildly unkind to me,
Speaker 3: like very very cruel and then in a public way
Speaker 3: and did like was really terrible, and that person is
Speaker 3: and in the moment when it's happening, it's devastating, right,
Speaker 3: It's like it feels like, oh my god, I gotta
Speaker 3: fix this, I gotta fix this. And I didn't do
Speaker 3: like how a little, you know, and I was like crying,
Speaker 3: and you know what, there is first of all, no
Speaker 3: fixing it in the moment because it's totally out of
Speaker 3: my control. Over time, now that person is not in
Speaker 3: a good place and I had nothing to do with that.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not wishing them ill. I just don't
Speaker 3: want any part of it. And sometimes it takes a
Speaker 3: long time for that that to right itself, but it
Speaker 3: always does. So I just yeah, that's what I'll say.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll hold you to that, because yeah, not all
Speaker 2: of my experiences, I'm like a person still like everyone
Speaker 2: loves them, everyone does like why like they're not kind?
Speaker 3: But you know what, it's the behind the scenes things
Speaker 3: could be going very sideways for that person, or it
Speaker 3: is down the line it's going to go you know,
Speaker 3: I just and nothing it has that that is I
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, that doesn't have to happen, but
Speaker 3: it has been my experience that I have seen that
Speaker 3: that you know, the best revenge is living well, as
Speaker 3: they say, right, so it's like, keep your life in
Speaker 3: a way that is meaningful and enjoyable and genuine, and
Speaker 3: then they can't you know, nobody can touch you.
Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed. So do Scarlett's friends like see all the memes,
Speaker 2: the clips on TikTok of you and like.
Speaker 3: So they we have like a strict no social media
Speaker 3: policy in our paths for her.
Speaker 2: So she's seen at school at all, but she.
Speaker 3: Some of her friends on text strings and things have
Speaker 3: it and they will you know, yes they do. So
Speaker 3: they had all seen things before Scarlett did. I only
Speaker 3: she only saw Clueless maybe six months ago. No, everybody,
Speaker 3: all of her friend she goes to an all girls' school,
Speaker 3: and almost all of her friends had seen it and
Speaker 3: they were and so she started to feel left out
Speaker 3: and weird, and you know, so she I let her
Speaker 3: watch it and my husband hadn't seen it either, for
Speaker 3: the record, so they watched it together.
Speaker 2: What is happening right now? What do you mean your
Speaker 2: husband has never seen clues? He's just that's a story.
Speaker 2: He's told you.
Speaker 3: The only thing did I tell you?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 3: This when we when we uh talked in December.
Speaker 2: He's all, anything, Well, we met.
Speaker 3: We met in Mexico on the beach on vacation with vents.
Speaker 3: A whole long story. This night we were talking for
Speaker 3: like how he was like, oh, so, what do you do?
Speaker 3: And I said, oh, I work in entertainment and he
Speaker 3: said well, like in what capacity?
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 3: And I said I am an actress? And he's like, oh,
Speaker 3: anything that I've seen And I said I don't know maybe,
Speaker 3: and then he's like, well, like tell me and I said, well,
Speaker 3: the movie Clueless and he said, oh yeah, I never
Speaker 3: saw that and I was like, oh, okay, this is
Speaker 3: a tail. Yeah he said, he said anything else that
Speaker 3: I would have seen, and I said, well the show
Speaker 3: Sabrina the Teenage Witch. But the Witch. He's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know I never saw that. And I was like okay. Well.
Speaker 3: Night at the Roxbury the Saturn Night Live guy oh, yeah, No,
Speaker 3: I didn't see that. I'm like going on. And then
Speaker 3: at this point I'm like, uh, hey, guy, like I
Speaker 3: have a pretty no hell, and then I said, well,
Speaker 3: I did nine O two and oh the original nine
Speaker 3: O two one oh, and he goes, oh, no, hinjure
Speaker 3: la monica. He knew, I promise you. He's like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, you're ginger. And I was like nine on
Speaker 3: two and oh always nine two and he and then
Speaker 3: it turns out he and his friends in college had
Speaker 3: a cast photo of you guys and they would have
Speaker 3: like do the drinking game or whatever, and somebody would
Speaker 3: like pas, I forget what the game was with the photo,
Speaker 3: but it would always wind up at someone else's, you know,
Speaker 3: house or something. So when we really started dating and
Speaker 3: I went to San Francisco for the first time, he
Speaker 3: had the picture and I was like, oh, no, is
Speaker 3: this he dared. I'm like, is this getting like real
Speaker 3: strange now? And then he's laughing and then I met
Speaker 3: you know, as it turns out, they're all very normal people.
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, it was nine and that
Speaker 3: was the only thing that he had seen.
Speaker 2: God, I want to believe this story, but how many
Speaker 2: like oh, god, like before your husband, even like you
Speaker 2: wouldn't meet guys and they're always like, oh yeah, what
Speaker 2: do you do after? But you just feel guilty, But
Speaker 2: you're like, why am I guilty? You feel like embarrassed, yeah, anything,
Speaker 2: and then you have to tell them and you're like
Speaker 2: you feel like what I do?
Speaker 3: Like my run down just I was at Lax the
Speaker 3: other day and this woman comes up to me and
Speaker 3: she's like, are you a real housewife? And I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not. And she's like, you're so glamorous. Well what
Speaker 3: do I know you from? And I was laughing like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm so glamorous, Like keep talking? What did she say?
Speaker 2: Glamorous? Wait? If Amber, though were a real housewife, which
Speaker 2: one would she be?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I don't know what are they? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't and I should Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: know anything. She would definitely be the one. I do
Speaker 3: believe Amber today would be running her own fashion line.
Speaker 3: I think that is definitely what she would be doing.
Speaker 3: She and then is debatable whether she's like either married
Speaker 3: to a super wealthy guy and like driving him crazy
Speaker 3: or she has no she's doing it all on her
Speaker 3: own and has no like, doesn't have a partner at all,
Speaker 3: and just as kicking ass everywhere interesting.
Speaker 2: She has her own fashion line. Hello, mmm mm hmmm,
Speaker 2: uh huh should I yes, maybe I should?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's right, I probably should. I do
Speaker 3: have like my own unique This is also what's.
Speaker 2: Fun guy to call it as if? I mean, I
Speaker 2: know your character didn't say that, but like still whatever, yeah,
Speaker 2: what I.
Speaker 3: Should write? I mean, I do have my own sense
Speaker 3: of fashion that I think is very unique. And sometimes
Speaker 3: it's like spot on and sometimes it's a little like hmm,
Speaker 3: And I think that's okay. I think that's also Amber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it should be Amber inspired though. Wait,
Speaker 2: we just created a great idea.
Speaker 3: I think this is a great idea.
Speaker 2: I do. I do think it's a great idea. Now
Speaker 2: is the time to strike. It's all nineties, Yes it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's our time.
Speaker 3: Anniversary. It is time to do it.
Speaker 2: Also at the anniversary, you have to anniversary. There you go.
Speaker 3: I listened to the episode with Ryder.
Speaker 2: I have a great idea. I'm gonna tell you off podcast.
Speaker 3: Great, let's do it. I also want to do that
Speaker 3: nineties horror.
Speaker 2: Will you be in it? I was just thinking, oh my.
Speaker 3: God, it's all about First of all, Clue is like
Speaker 3: my favorite.
Speaker 2: Movie of all time, one of my favorites.
Speaker 3: Out is one of my favorite new movies of all time.
Speaker 3: So I think and Agatha Christie those movies I try
Speaker 3: to get my daughter to watch. I remember reading those
Speaker 3: books when I was younger, and one of the movies
Speaker 3: that I loved, I feel like it was.
Speaker 2: And then there were none, and then there were none.
Speaker 3: It was so scary.
Speaker 5: I remember feeling like, wait a second, how am I
Speaker 5: going to ever survive if I get on an island
Speaker 5: by myself with people in a scary house, you know,
Speaker 5: and my mom being like, well, you have to like actually.
Speaker 3: Get like you're not that's not happening to you.
Speaker 2: And I was like, very isn't it crazy? That was
Speaker 2: like the og Like, yes, there were two titles for
Speaker 2: the book, but the one well known for the novel
Speaker 2: was and then there were none. But it was a
Speaker 2: story of started with ten people and then one by
Speaker 2: one they were killed off and that's hello, that's a
Speaker 2: storyline for every horse.
Speaker 3: I think it is so totally and it would be amazing.
Speaker 3: And then deciding who is the person, like who's the one.
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, because it would be like a
Speaker 2: main character energy because technically none of our characters were
Speaker 2: the main character, but yet ultimately in life we really are.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yes? No, yes, it does.
Speaker 2: Like that while you were one of the leads, like
Speaker 2: you weren't yet, like you know, you weren't share like
Speaker 2: it's yep, you know, and when the show started it
Speaker 2: was like Brenda and Kelly like it wasn't Donna. And
Speaker 2: then you know with writer like it's just he always said,
Speaker 2: I think that's great. I mean, every girl crushed on him,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't like technical lead the show.
Speaker 3: That's the whole. I think that is a key component
Speaker 3: of the storyline, that it's all the you know whatever
Speaker 3: you would call us, the the.
Speaker 2: What would what do we be called?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Look, we now bitch. It's like everyone was like she's
Speaker 2: still standing, like still iconic.
Speaker 3: Do we call it number three on the call sheet?
Speaker 2: I think I was. I think I was number sun
Speaker 2: Or is it.
Speaker 3: Three to seven? Between three and seven?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, whoa wife. It's a great idea, it is.
Speaker 2: I it's that call sheet common out because I'm used
Speaker 2: in the movie.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, there could be so many times.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many layers, so many layers. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh. Oh, I'm so glad you were into it
Speaker 2: because I was just thinking this morning, like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: should be perfect. I'd love to do this. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: I mean I think it would be great. And I
Speaker 3: just for the first time did which I'm not really
Speaker 3: supposed to talk about, but I'm not going to be specific.
Speaker 3: So it's fine. This spec series that's like Ryan Murphy
Speaker 3: esque horror thing that I just did, and let me
Speaker 3: tell you, it was so fun. It was really, really,
Speaker 3: really fun. So and you met Ryan Murphy or anything
Speaker 3: like that. No, I've never met Ryan Murphy, have you.
Speaker 2: No? No, I feel like we're his jam. I'm like iconic,
Speaker 2: like he loves like eighties and nineties stars and pops
Speaker 2: them into all different fun roles and it's.
Speaker 3: Like, let's put it out there, Hi, mister Murphy. Hello,
Speaker 3: here we are.
Speaker 2: Yes, Hi, Ryan Murphy.
Speaker 3: I'll do whatever. I love these ideas. I think we
Speaker 3: for many many possibilities.
Speaker 2: I know, look at us in our second chapter.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. It's shaking your head like this.
Speaker 2: So no, no, I.
Speaker 3: Know, it's so much better now because I feel like
Speaker 3: more at ease with myself. I feel more able to
Speaker 3: access my creativity, my life. I'm more confident. It's just
Speaker 3: like it just feels better.
Speaker 2: It's definitely. Yeah, the confidence thing, it's all getting better
Speaker 2: than it was back then.
Speaker 3: I of talking with you.
Speaker 2: I've love you.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 2: I know I could talk to you all day because
Speaker 2: I could talk about anything, and there's so much more
Speaker 2: we'll have to talk.
Speaker 3: Well, we now have like four businesses that were starting.
Speaker 2: So that's great. I mean the ones that are yours,
Speaker 2: that are yours like, but I'm happy to offer ideas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love it, fun, fun puns. Okay, I love you.
Speaker 3: I love you. Have a beautiful rest of your day.
Speaker 3: And I hope I get to see you soon.
Speaker 2: I know me too. Oh maybe I'll come to San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Yes, come, that would be so fun.
Speaker 2: I know I've been wanting to for a couple of years.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna make it happen. Manifesting so much, so much.
Speaker 3: I love you all right, I love you.