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Speaker 2: All Right, this is the Command Center Commute podcast. I'm
Speaker 2: Logan Paulson here with Fred Smooth and Santana moss Yep.
Speaker 3: Let's hit the weekend round.
Speaker 2: Up real quick, boys, let's talk about this, this Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers deal.
Speaker 3: How do you guys feel about that? A E.
Speaker 4: T A.
Speaker 5: I forgot what his mysteries get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. If you look
Speaker 4: at the span of quarterbacks that came through that system.
Speaker 4: We talked about the quarterbacks that came through this is
Speaker 4: this organization, the Jets. What probably in the last I
Speaker 4: gues say, that's twenty five years. Yeah, the best names.
Speaker 4: Now I played one of the best. I think I
Speaker 4: had Vinnie tested Bird. That was good. But Vinnie probably
Speaker 4: was like the last. To me, Bennie was like the
Speaker 4: one of the greats that would it probably didn't exceed
Speaker 4: to the expectation that people probably wanted. But you say
Speaker 4: Brett fa Arm, now you say Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Those who so let me.
Speaker 3: Just ask you a question, Taylor. So basically, they're gonna
Speaker 3: give up.
Speaker 2: They're gonna swap first this year, so not a big
Speaker 2: deal thirteen to fifteen, and then they got a second
Speaker 2: round pick that's going to be a first round pick
Speaker 2: next year. If he plays more than sixty five percent
Speaker 2: of the well, go ahead, talk as but how long
Speaker 2: is he going to be playing? As my question, that's
Speaker 2: my one criticism.
Speaker 4: That's the only question. And that's the thing that bothered
Speaker 4: me the most about Aaron Rodgers because you know the talent.
Speaker 4: We know he's exceptionally I mean, he's one of the
Speaker 4: best still, and he don't have to go out there
Speaker 4: and really put the effort in like he's the guy
Speaker 4: that's always going to.
Speaker 6: Go diva diva. And that's the problem. You are deep
Speaker 6: in football. You are unpredictable, like he're gona think about it.
Speaker 6: The Jets all in on this year after this year,
Speaker 6: they don't know what he's gonna do it.
Speaker 4: That's where the second round to the first run? Are
Speaker 4: they sold for just one year? Do they want more
Speaker 4: out of that? That's my question?
Speaker 5: They want more?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but are you gonna get more?
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing that bothers me about it is
Speaker 2: he's kind of he's been on the decline. Last year
Speaker 2: was not a great year. He still throw it, he
Speaker 2: can still spin it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a thumb injury, but.
Speaker 2: Definitely not the guy that was the MVP caliber guy
Speaker 2: from two years ago. Right, You're giving up to two
Speaker 2: first round picks for a guy who talked about retiring
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 5: He did go to the Darkness Retreat.
Speaker 6: He stayed there in front. He stayed in the dark
Speaker 6: for seventy two hours. He contemplated retirement, and now he's back.
Speaker 5: Put like this. I love players that have a chip
Speaker 5: on their shoulder.
Speaker 6: For some reason, I feel like Aaron feels disrespected.
Speaker 4: That's the only reason why he wanted to be a Jet.
Speaker 4: Because you got to think about it. He basically said,
Speaker 4: you signed me last year to a three year extension
Speaker 4: and then now I'm gonna tell you, well, maybe I
Speaker 4: think I can go to a Super Bowl or or
Speaker 4: or could tend for a championship, but maybe not here.
Speaker 4: How you say that when this team just went out
Speaker 4: on the limit and said, Okay, we're gonna give you
Speaker 4: another three years to do whatever you feel like you
Speaker 4: can do to get us to the Promised Land. So
Speaker 4: to me, I think he's one of those persons that
Speaker 4: he wants everything to be about himself and he wants
Speaker 4: to move when he wants to move. You can't do
Speaker 4: that with these.
Speaker 6: And nobody's talking about Jordan Love like everybody's talking about Aaron.
Speaker 5: And to me, Aaron is the brute, the beauty queen
Speaker 5: with the dead.
Speaker 4: Tooth in the matter. I'm just telling you. I'm just
Speaker 4: telling you.
Speaker 5: And you talk to her.
Speaker 6: Until you sit down and talk to her, you can't
Speaker 6: really focus on who she is. And joy Love is
Speaker 6: that that Cinderella that they've been hind in the basement
Speaker 6: for three four years. I will not be shocked if
Speaker 6: they get a tight end with that new second round
Speaker 6: pick and they get the wide receiver he needs and
Speaker 6: Jordan Love comes.
Speaker 4: Out and ball. Don't quote me, but don't be surprised
Speaker 4: they win more than eight games with Jordan Love this year.
Speaker 6: So I think I think Chicago and Detroit out of class,
Speaker 6: out of North right now, I think Chicago and Detroit.
Speaker 2: So do you think one of the I think one
Speaker 2: of the reasons that Aaron was frustrated there wasn't a
Speaker 2: lot of like elite pass catchers in Green Bay. How like, so,
Speaker 2: why why all of a sudden is love going to
Speaker 2: come in and make that kill that skill position group.
Speaker 4: Better because the offense that he's in, you don't have
Speaker 4: to be lead because everyone can be lea, everyone could
Speaker 4: be lead. You remember running in that offense, we had
Speaker 4: five receivers that all had five hundred, six hundred yards
Speaker 4: together and we won twelve games that year. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you don't have to
Speaker 4: have an elite receiver that that pass and makes everyone
Speaker 4: everybody's option.
Speaker 2: So you had one of the best in Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: He's going to the Jets. Like do you think that
Speaker 2: because it's the same offense. It's it's it's West Coast.
Speaker 2: The offensive cooridator in New York was from the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers, right, So, like, like, how do you feel
Speaker 2: about that? Do you think he'll be able to kind
Speaker 2: of revitalize his career or is he just kind of
Speaker 2: this diva that's never going to be that guy.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna say this, as much as I just
Speaker 4: channed those that JT S Jets, do not come up
Speaker 4: there and be less than yourself. Rocks not come to
Speaker 4: New York and be less than yourself because those fans
Speaker 4: will turn on you quickly. And so you could go
Speaker 4: in there, you could come from Wisconsin with that diva stuff.
Speaker 4: Don't go in to Manhattan with that diva stuff. Wherever
Speaker 4: they that over there, they're not playing point on this one,
Speaker 4: that that that Green Bay media is one is guarded
Speaker 4: and protected.
Speaker 6: He can he is the president of Milwaukee. He can
Speaker 6: do what he wants to when you come to New York. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: You're just.
Speaker 4: Piece of the puzzle. He's wrong over there. Wants to
Speaker 4: watch what see.
Speaker 5: I'm willing.
Speaker 6: I want to see what happens after the Jets you
Speaker 6: lose a game and they put the mic in his face.
Speaker 6: I want to see what happens then, because we know,
Speaker 6: we know he's that dude that just don't really care.
Speaker 5: He don't care about how you feel.
Speaker 3: So final thought. Good move for the Jets, yes, or.
Speaker 4: No, great move for the Jets.
Speaker 6: Regular unlady, listen to me. He ain't married. What I
Speaker 6: tell you, he ain He ain't married. No more Super
Speaker 6: Bowls for him.
Speaker 3: Ain't married.
Speaker 2: All right, So that's a lot of Green Bay Jets talk.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about something that's coming up this week, the draft. Right, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's do a little bit what IF's okay?
Speaker 5: I love what if? What marvels like?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right? Respect, all right?
Speaker 2: So the first what if is the commanders can't try
Speaker 2: to can't find a trade partner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what if that happens? We are taking the sixteen.
Speaker 4: If if it was the fifth, we all be drunk.
Speaker 5: I'm a professional drinker.
Speaker 4: I'm like this. I'm you know, I'm big on you know,
Speaker 4: let me take what's given to me. Right now, we
Speaker 4: have the sixteen pick. I'm not big on trying to
Speaker 4: get more in up with no y'all know that saying Okay,
Speaker 4: you know when you're playing, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know that. You know what.
Speaker 4: We came up a little different. You know, you came
Speaker 4: up with a little different. But what I'm saying is,
Speaker 4: if I have for show money, why try to replace
Speaker 4: himblet try to get more money. They end up with
Speaker 4: no money.
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Trade back.
Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily sold on it unless it's the opportunity
Speaker 4: is given, you knowe what I'm saying. So as the
Speaker 4: draft get to going and things kind of trinkle down
Speaker 4: to saying Oh, we have a chance to say we can.
Speaker 4: We can. We can go back a couple of and
Speaker 4: still pick up a guy too that we feel that's needed.
Speaker 4: We did it last year. We got we did When
Speaker 4: that time to come right now, it's too premature for
Speaker 4: me to make that call. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So right now, if you ask me, I'm picking where
Speaker 4: we what's needed.
Speaker 3: Either, So what's needed?
Speaker 4: I guess I'm going. I'm gonna going to secondary. I'm
Speaker 4: a receiver and I know on in this division you
Speaker 4: have some elite talent. We're gonna be going up against
Speaker 4: weekend and week I cannot hang my hat on one
Speaker 4: guy every week to try to lock down one guy
Speaker 4: because it's two or three guys on these teams nowadays.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go get me a cornerback. All right, Well, I'm.
Speaker 5: In this race.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get in the car. I'm not gonna push
Speaker 6: the gas. I'm not trying to go forward. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: put it in reverse. But if you can't, if I can't,
Speaker 6: I'm taking the biggest human being left at the draft. Okay,
Speaker 6: like literally, like it's sixteen, Who is the biggest offensive
Speaker 6: tackle that's left if it's if it's Donale right, first
Speaker 6: of all, I want anybody named don All, and if
Speaker 6: your first name don All, I want.
Speaker 5: You, and you'll see your last name start with a W.
Speaker 4: I want you.
Speaker 6: So they could be done there, Washington the tight end,
Speaker 6: they could be done Al from Tennessee, I listen, I
Speaker 6: want a dune Al Before this.
Speaker 4: Dragt got done in on my list, but I was
Speaker 4: thinking that he might fall a little bit of Washington
Speaker 4: the tackle.
Speaker 5: I think he's going up. He's shooting up the board.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna shift a little bit. I think
Speaker 4: I'm hoping. I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2: It's because, like we talked about the tier system, right,
Speaker 2: and all these guys after sixteen or had a tear
Speaker 2: in the same group.
Speaker 3: So you want to trade back.
Speaker 2: But if you can't trade back and the best player available,
Speaker 2: best player by grade, is an edge rusher, Yeah, do
Speaker 2: you take an edg rusher?
Speaker 4: Oh? With what we have going on here, you might
Speaker 4: have to, So tell me about it. You might have to.
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I just feel like you can't pay
Speaker 4: everybody in a situation you can.
Speaker 3: No one's under contract.
Speaker 2: Of the seven guys on roster, none of them are
Speaker 2: under contract for twenty fourteen, mingo.
Speaker 4: So you know you gotta go out there and and
Speaker 4: I can't say you're putting a band aid on it.
Speaker 4: You're going you're fixing that problem. You're fixing it right
Speaker 4: now saying, hey, I'm going to get the guy that
Speaker 4: now I know I could pay cheap and give me
Speaker 4: the same kind of production.
Speaker 5: Well, the thing about it is, this is what happened
Speaker 5: when you draft.
Speaker 6: Well, when you draft, well, you fill a room up
Speaker 6: and you can't pay everybody. You said, I want to
Speaker 6: pay the interior you paid paying you paid John Allen.
Speaker 6: You can only at the most pay one of these guys,
Speaker 6: and maybe you franchise one, maybe you fill f option one,
Speaker 6: but you're gonna have to manipulate that in your favorite.
Speaker 6: So yeah, picking an edge guy, I just don't see
Speaker 6: an edge now. I'm a big Nolan Smith guy. I
Speaker 6: think Nolan Smith can stylistically.
Speaker 3: Does he fit here though?
Speaker 4: I think he does because he's Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: To me, I said, I'd find one clip of him
Speaker 2: playing off the ball.
Speaker 6: Then I told you, look, not this ship the year before,
Speaker 6: this car to play off the bottle.
Speaker 5: He's a linebacker. That runs a four forty. He's strong,
Speaker 5: he's fast, he's smart.
Speaker 4: Listen to me.
Speaker 6: He was forced to rush to pass out there is
Speaker 6: because this is what George asked him to do, just
Speaker 6: like Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4: But if you stand him up.
Speaker 6: And say go chase people sideline sideline, he can get
Speaker 6: it done. Put it like this in the first round.
Speaker 6: I'm looking for unicorns and freaks. I'm looking for people
Speaker 6: that stand out. And I don't care if it's a
Speaker 6: good thing about that. You meaning this guy one hundred
Speaker 6: and sixty pounds. That's different, Anthony Richardson, that's different. I
Speaker 6: have to go out and above to make something happen.
Speaker 3: Right, what if Robinsons are at sixteen, but.
Speaker 4: If he'll still be there seventeen, I swear, I don't
Speaker 4: you know, honestly, So okay, I mean, I'm just be
Speaker 4: real like that's a knee. Don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 4: understand you have to sometime, you know, bypass guys like that.
Speaker 4: That's just that's that's the game. But I don't feel
Speaker 4: like it's a knee. And I don't feel like running
Speaker 4: backs carry that much value. No more for you to say,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out on the limb and bring you
Speaker 4: to much because we know he's a dynamic talent. Yes,
Speaker 4: and partly for three or four years, we might get
Speaker 4: all that. But if you ain't get, if you ain't
Speaker 4: soli of find the guys up front or the guys
Speaker 4: on the other side of that we need it, don't
Speaker 4: matter what you do.
Speaker 3: With That's a great point.
Speaker 2: Like if you can get an offensive lineman there right
Speaker 2: to make the run game better, do you, that's gonna
Speaker 2: be a thing that elevates.
Speaker 6: Who said we have a problem at running back. I
Speaker 6: can literally go to South Carolin. Now pick up Stephen Davis,
Speaker 6: who's forty nine years old. If I got offensive line,
Speaker 6: he would a big country would run behind him. Like,
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, offensive line makes everybody better,
Speaker 6: makes your running back look better, make your quarterback look better,
Speaker 6: make your office of coordinator with great So at the
Speaker 6: end of the day, to simplify this thing for the enemy,
Speaker 6: let's go get the guys up front. Let's go get
Speaker 6: the hogs, no vegans, Let's go get the hag.
Speaker 2: What if he's Adrian Peterson, Like what that's that's the
Speaker 2: that's the type of evaluation you're talking about.
Speaker 3: He's the best running back that I evaluated.
Speaker 6: A fast and quicker, stronger version of lavery Young Bell
Speaker 6: because of what he does and whide receiving. Nobody wants
Speaker 6: to talk about the things he does.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, man is like if he's a if
Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer, which is the guy you're
Speaker 2: comparing him to, Like, do you feel weird passing on
Speaker 2: the sixteen?
Speaker 4: I would say I don't feel weird because of the
Speaker 4: offense that he's coming into. If we run anything, if
Speaker 4: we all shell of the team that Eric Enemy came from,
Speaker 4: you could you can put in front back in that
Speaker 4: offense long as long as as long as.
Speaker 5: He can run around.
Speaker 4: And we have two guys already that can do what
Speaker 4: those guys over there was doing already. And so that's
Speaker 4: why I said, I'm not big on going out, going
Speaker 4: on the limbit to get a guy at that pick.
Speaker 5: Antonio Gibson is going to have a hell of a year.
Speaker 6: Like like averb Enemy probably looks at Gibson and probably
Speaker 6: haven't stopped sliding out of his mouth since he got here.
Speaker 5: Because I'm just saying.
Speaker 6: I played against Andy Reid my whole career, and he
Speaker 6: always had a Brian Ristbrook and Do Staley for us,
Speaker 6: and he would use him in unconventional ways and they
Speaker 6: would just they would abuse us.
Speaker 2: That's a question I'd like to ask you, guys. Do
Speaker 2: you think that Gibson has that level of route running
Speaker 2: he want to his game? Think about though, think about Westbrook,
Speaker 2: Think about the guys you just mentioned, those guys that
Speaker 2: are hyper quick.
Speaker 4: They with shat backs to guys so that they was
Speaker 4: a little more quick.
Speaker 3: Long shried guy.
Speaker 2: He's explosive, no doubt, but he doesn't have that that
Speaker 2: Santana maas short area running twice round.
Speaker 4: You're right, but that might be question and that's one
Speaker 4: of the reasons why we didn't see him as much.
Speaker 4: But I thought last year when we when we needed
Speaker 4: to use him more in the passing game better, he
Speaker 4: showed us that, look, man, I can do whatever. And
Speaker 4: I think last year he played with that chip knowing
Speaker 4: you brought a guy here to take my position. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna show you, guys, now allow me to do the
Speaker 4: things you said he was gonna do with me. And
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna get a full dose of that
Speaker 4: now in this new offense.
Speaker 5: And don't forget it's contract here.
Speaker 6: If you want to see a player at his peak,
Speaker 6: put him in contract.
Speaker 4: Yet, you know they say bald online when you're playing
Speaker 4: the game and they say, I fould you and you
Speaker 4: got it. You got it. Don't lie to in the
Speaker 4: football field, because when you try to take a guy
Speaker 4: out of something that he has done and showed you well,
Speaker 4: he played well enough to go out there and be
Speaker 4: that guy and you just say I just don't. I
Speaker 4: don't need you that much, it always come around to
Speaker 4: bite you, you know what I mean. I think this
Speaker 4: is one of those years that it was me. Just
Speaker 4: gave me a call.
Speaker 6: He said, if we take Bjne at sixteen, he is
Speaker 6: retiring that you brought him up because you could have
Speaker 6: brought up a.
Speaker 4: Lot of guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me bring someone else up for you. Right,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk about CJ. Stroud, Will Levis,
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson top ten. Okay, would you take one of
Speaker 2: those guys.
Speaker 3: At sixteen or would you trade up? Look for a
Speaker 3: sliding Anthony Richardson for a.
Speaker 4: Sliding Anthony Richardson, No, I ain't sliding, you smoke. I'm
Speaker 4: like this, I'm a receiver. That's what I'm smoking. I'm
Speaker 4: cool with the way the game has transcending now when
Speaker 4: it comes to these guys can be a little more
Speaker 4: loosive outside, and I'm cool with that. But at the
Speaker 4: same time, I need a I need a guy that
Speaker 4: can give me more in the pocket when needed, and
Speaker 4: then you can improv outside. Anthony Richards, Do I believe
Speaker 4: he's a great talent. Yes, and he might be a
Speaker 4: phenomenal guy. You never know what might happen on this
Speaker 4: level when he has a little coach, a little more
Speaker 4: coaching and everything and more game on his belt. Well,
Speaker 4: right now, I'm not I'm not banking on that with
Speaker 4: that pick or trading up for that kind of guy.
Speaker 4: He lansered out. He lanswered, my lot, then that's that's.
Speaker 3: The bridge at sixteen.
Speaker 4: At sixteen, no, he said, no that that day. I
Speaker 4: hear that day, I'm gonna have a loan. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have a loan sit down with somebody that's in charge
Speaker 4: of my offense and see if that's where we need
Speaker 4: to go. I would think about it, would about. You
Speaker 4: don't have to ask me no question. I'm going to
Speaker 4: trout back money on that. He ain't gonna he ain't
Speaker 4: gonna be around at sixteen.
Speaker 3: C J.
Speaker 5: Scribe.
Speaker 6: When we look back five years from now, c J.
Speaker 6: Scroud will not be the player that Anthony rich is
Speaker 6: gonna be. One is ready right now, crowd is ready.
Speaker 6: Anthon the riches not. He needs to sit the year.
Speaker 6: But I promise you when you Pat mahomes this dude,
Speaker 6: he will beat them. He will be the player that
Speaker 6: you're gonna look back and say, nd hell did y'all
Speaker 6: not draft Anthony Richardson. He's staring you know he can't
Speaker 6: do everything great right now? Problem wait till tomorrow.
Speaker 4: The only problem I have with quarterbacks like Anthony Richardson
Speaker 4: when they have that huge army, sometime it goes against
Speaker 4: what you're trying to do. And I play with too
Speaker 4: many with a huge um. Jay Campbell R G three mcnow.
Speaker 4: Mcnow was one of the ones that as a veteran,
Speaker 4: I said, you see this guy knows his strength because
Speaker 4: I came to her looking at mcnow my eyes this bit.
Speaker 4: He said it was too hard, and I say, bro,
Speaker 4: he said, I got to take some off it. The
Speaker 4: mother guys they ain't never taking I say, coach O
Speaker 4: rich we are young, but that's what I'm saying, a
Speaker 4: young guy, those other young guys I called, I never
Speaker 4: saw him take none off it. They kept going because
Speaker 4: they feel like that what got them to where they at.
Speaker 6: Will Levis is a joke. I'm here to tell you,
Speaker 6: straight shooter. Well, we do this every year. We got
Speaker 6: three or four quarterbacks and we want to prop them
Speaker 6: all over time. He's Zach Wilson and we're looking at
Speaker 6: Zach Wilson junior.
Speaker 5: Again, you don't think Wilson so.
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson was so much more of a projection man,
Speaker 2: the way he like his lack a field in the pocket.
Speaker 3: At least Levis plays quarterback. At least he plays a
Speaker 3: Western hood. He played back. I mean last year not great,
Speaker 3: But in twenty twenty one he look like that.
Speaker 6: Dude, and my granddaddy was looking good in two thousand.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying, and no, no, no, no, no, like.
Speaker 5: We know this, he go the truth. Five quarterbacks. Let's
Speaker 5: just put her and the Hook in the group.
Speaker 6: We know for a fact only two we'll actually be
Speaker 6: good quarterbacks to a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 5: The numbers tell us that.
Speaker 6: And my two when we look back, I think Bryce
Speaker 6: Young and Richardson will be the but I'm really really like.
Speaker 4: Hook you take Richardson over Stroud though, Yeah, it's more.
Speaker 3: He's just said he's got more upside.
Speaker 4: Now, no, no scribe, he goes scribe problem. He throws
Speaker 4: to wide up and receiving their beat quarterbacks all the time.
Speaker 4: He has the best officive line he's never thrown on.
Speaker 2: There you were, I'm gonna fight you right now. You
Speaker 2: took my exact argument. He said it was dumb like
Speaker 2: three days ago, and now you're using all this on.
Speaker 6: I apologize, apologize about your.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: No, I had to go back and watch.
Speaker 3: What you all right, as long as I'm just some
Speaker 3: credible I'm.
Speaker 6: Giving you ready for your source for I don't know
Speaker 6: what he is under the wrest, but I haven't seen
Speaker 6: him throw the spots and make those guys go get
Speaker 6: the ball.
Speaker 4: I've seen that plenty of times. I watched plenty of
Speaker 4: games where he threw to the spot was in there.
Speaker 6: The Georgia game was the one game that I said
Speaker 6: he balleding out and this is who he could be.
Speaker 5: That was the game.
Speaker 4: Let's just be honest. Do you think that a little
Speaker 4: bit of what Ohio State puts out at that position?
Speaker 5: Yes, he is a.
Speaker 4: Prisoner to being a Okay, I can take that more
Speaker 4: than saying that he might not running back.
Speaker 6: Pen State like Penn State running backs of Florida receivers
Speaker 6: like they get to the next level and do not
Speaker 6: paying out.
Speaker 2: All right, so we can talk about we literally talk
Speaker 2: about that all day. We've got a little time with
Speaker 2: it all. I need you to share draft day story
Speaker 2: from both of you.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 2: Doesn't need to be about You can be about anything.
Speaker 2: Draft day story maybe when you got picked, you know
Speaker 2: something about whatever.
Speaker 4: My draft day story is quick. I mean it's typically me. Mine.
Speaker 4: Mine was you know, it was crazy because it was
Speaker 4: a dream come true. I honestly knew I was gonna
Speaker 4: be a first round pick. Didn't know when?
Speaker 3: Did you know that?
Speaker 4: I knew that before. I knew that when I had
Speaker 4: to go to the so my junior year, they wanted
Speaker 4: me to come out like Tanna, you done enough, they
Speaker 4: want you to come out. No, I didn't want to
Speaker 4: do it. When in my senior year balled out and
Speaker 4: now guys like you don't have to go to the
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl. I went and went to the combine. Everyone
Speaker 4: was mad that I didn't participate, and they told me
Speaker 4: that we're not showing up at your pro day. I
Speaker 4: had every team there and some you know, at my
Speaker 4: pro day killed my pro day. It ran a four
Speaker 4: to two and didn't even do my drills. So I'm
Speaker 4: a first rounder. Now. The thing that went and got
Speaker 4: kind of iffy is where the Jet I mean not
Speaker 4: the Jets. The Dolphins put something in the newspaper to
Speaker 4: try to get me to draw. They wanted to get
Speaker 4: me later in the first They said, never been a
Speaker 4: guy under five to ten that goes top ten in
Speaker 4: the first round, and so my agent shot shot something
Speaker 4: at them like how could you do this to us?
Speaker 4: We knew it was all a game. They wanted me
Speaker 4: to fall to thirty something so they can get me.
Speaker 4: And then they went later and said, okay, we're you know,
Speaker 4: are bad, you know, but they put that the backpage.
Speaker 4: So it's crazy how things happened. But still it was said,
Speaker 4: Santana will not go top ten or first receiver only
Speaker 4: because he's under six feet. But I was gonna be
Speaker 4: a first round pick, so I knew that mark part
Speaker 4: of it. Fast forward to my draft day. I didn't
Speaker 4: want no one at my house but my immediate family.
Speaker 4: I say, look here, man. At the end of the day,
Speaker 4: these are the people that watched me on this journey,
Speaker 4: and it's all I need until it's all sit and done.
Speaker 4: And when it happened, it happened. I was shocked because
Speaker 4: I didn't want to go to New York. It wasn't nothing.
Speaker 4: I knew nothing about New York but the one time
Speaker 4: I had a trip there, and it was I had
Speaker 4: took many trips, but that was the only trip I
Speaker 4: had for pleasure. It was a senior breakfast my senior year.
Speaker 4: The Big East Breakfast was held there and it was
Speaker 4: just dreary. We was in Manhattan. It was dirty. I
Speaker 4: was looking at I was like, damn, well, I don't
Speaker 4: want to be here. It seemed like it's the pressing
Speaker 4: a little bit. And I didn't have no I didn't
Speaker 4: I didn't have a recollection of what team. I didn't.
Speaker 4: I knew nothing about the Jets or the Giants, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It wasn't a team that I followed.
Speaker 4: I just said to myself that day, being in that situation,
Speaker 4: that man, I don't want to come up here. And
Speaker 4: God bless the dead. One of my teammates, our Blades,
Speaker 4: Our Blades say man, shut up, You're gonna be right
Speaker 4: here next year. And when they called my name, I said,
Speaker 4: damn al Jenkson. And that's what happened to me. Said,
Speaker 4: I went my draft, first round, sixteenth pick.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, how about you, Fred? What you picked?
Speaker 6: Second round forty third pick? In mine situation is very similar.
Speaker 6: I cheered at home. I end up written out of
Speaker 6: Big Sports by just for my family. So me and
Speaker 6: my family.
Speaker 3: Come and how many people you think with a smooth.
Speaker 4: Family is here? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So it was at least one hundred people there.
Speaker 6: I know because they drunk all the free liquor that
Speaker 6: I had to pay for, So you know, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 6: But I sit in the back and I sat with
Speaker 6: my grandmama and my mom. That was my support group,
Speaker 6: and I just I remember just watching the names and
Speaker 6: I took I was writing every name that got drafted
Speaker 6: before me because I couldn't wait to play.
Speaker 3: What do they do?
Speaker 4: Three? Two?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Nate Clemings.
Speaker 4: Jamar Fletcher was the guy you ain't like like that, now,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? You liked him as this TN,
Speaker 4: but I'm Fletcher.
Speaker 5: But we were there.
Speaker 4: They bought American together and.
Speaker 6: The words see me and tann I did everything together
Speaker 6: senior year, so we kind of filled out of everybody.
Speaker 6: So I remember they called my name, and I got
Speaker 6: my grandmama, I mean my mom and my left arm,
Speaker 6: my grandmom and my right arm, and my mama cried.
Speaker 5: My grandma cried, but I'm.
Speaker 6: Laughing and crying at the same time because I'm an idiot.
Speaker 5: And then I remember my grandma. She started laughing and
Speaker 5: her teeth fell out.
Speaker 6: You know, she had them old and didn't put enough
Speaker 6: poly grip on that. So luckily when it fell out,
Speaker 6: I looked and I caught it, and the reporters we
Speaker 6: caught it and just looked at me and last and
Speaker 6: He's like, good catch. And then they put the mic
Speaker 6: on my face, and then I started talking about its name.
Speaker 6: But I'll never forget that my grandma tea fell out
Speaker 6: of mind.
Speaker 3: Were you excited to come here? We're excited dropped.
Speaker 4: I tell you what I did know.
Speaker 6: I was always a big NFC eas guy, but I
Speaker 6: didn't know what Mark at this was like, you don't
Speaker 6: know about Virginia. You don't hear about Virginia, you don't
Speaker 6: hear about Maryland, you hear about Washington.
Speaker 4: So I was happy once I got here.
Speaker 6: I was like, everything happens for a reason, because I
Speaker 6: don't think I needed to be down south, and I
Speaker 6: ain't need that I need to come here.
Speaker 4: I will say this too, not to because I left
Speaker 4: it out. The only reason I was stunt at the
Speaker 4: draft day because I knew it was always too good
Speaker 4: to be true. Lead them that week, afraid to tell you.
Speaker 4: All I talked to was the press from up here.
Speaker 4: Everyone had me coming to Washington, so and I was
Speaker 4: a guy that, you know what, I'm from the show
Speaker 4: me state, not literally, but show me you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. I didn't want to jump the gun. And
Speaker 4: when I saw them pick Rod Gardner, it like when
Speaker 4: I say my parfore you yeah, one pick before me. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He went fifteen, I went sixteen. The Jets actually moved
Speaker 4: up to get me at sixteen because they thought I
Speaker 4: was going here also at fifteen. So that was one
Speaker 4: of those those I eye openers, like see Tanna, don't
Speaker 4: jump the gun, Like, don't sit here and have your
Speaker 4: mind made it. And I did that. I was happy
Speaker 4: that I had that kind of mindset, but I was
Speaker 4: still kind of pissed a little bit because I kind
Speaker 4: of in the back of my head and the thing
Speaker 4: for it to come.
Speaker 5: I trained in.
Speaker 6: Boca Raturn, Yeah, not too far from Tanna, so I
Speaker 6: don't share that story. So I was working out and
Speaker 6: I'm dogging to receive it. At the random house. I
Speaker 6: was like, no, man, y'all ain't good enough. I like, y'all.
Speaker 6: Take me where Santana? Like, who like Santana mouth? That's
Speaker 6: the only person I want to eat. They get, I
Speaker 6: get in the car. Some guys take me, Oh in the.
Speaker 5: Gutther in Miami. I'm knocking on door.
Speaker 4: What's Santanna? He called me? He called me. Hey. I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know that voice. But a couple
Speaker 4: of times I don't been on a couple of trips
Speaker 4: and I done met Fred Smooth, so I hear his voice.
Speaker 5: He's like, hey, what's up?
Speaker 4: What I'm like, what this is?
Speaker 6: I'm like, my notice, Fred Smooth Man, I'm right here
Speaker 6: in care City.
Speaker 5: Man, come out as I can lock you up the
Speaker 5: phone up on it the.
Speaker 4: Phone. And then I found out, lady that someone that
Speaker 4: I knew my numbers, get my number out number my
Speaker 4: boy smooth My, he just one of those characters. When
Speaker 4: I met him, I came back from the Playball American
Speaker 4: I say, bro, I had to meet the funniest dude ever.
Speaker 4: This dude, Fred Smooth, talked about everybody what they I said.
Speaker 4: He knew everything about you doing. That's one of the
Speaker 4: things about his football, I Q was unheard of.
Speaker 6: I never saw anything without the internet. Friend, I studied
Speaker 6: players like Freddy Miller.
Speaker 4: He talked about Freddy Miller's that he said, see that,
Speaker 4: the guy like, see you, Man.
Speaker 5: I have a hard time with him.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm lock him up all day time running. He
Speaker 4: can't run round, can't get deep, can't catch you contested pass.
Speaker 4: He knew. It was like he had your bio in
Speaker 4: his palm of his hand. He would talk about you.
Speaker 6: On the spot watching I was watching VSA, watching what
Speaker 6: we had at the time. I would just watch these
Speaker 6: dude knowing I ain't gonna play them, but I know
Speaker 6: one day I'm gonna player either.
Speaker 5: Play them or play somebody with the same feel set.
Speaker 4: So he was shocked. He was shocked, and it was
Speaker 4: crazy that we end up coming together anyway. So that
Speaker 4: was crazy.
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