1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed by our podcast guests are 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: their own and do not necessarily reflect the views or 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: positions of the Washington Commanders or any of their representatives. 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: All Right, this is the Command Center Commute podcast. I'm 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Logan Paulson here with Fred Smooth and Santana moss Yep. 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: Let's hit the weekend round. 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: Up real quick, boys, let's talk about this, this Aaron 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Rodgers deal. 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: How do you guys feel about that? A E. 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 4: T A. 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 5: I forgot what his mysteries get. 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong. If you look 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: at the span of quarterbacks that came through that system. 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 4: We talked about the quarterbacks that came through this is 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 4: this organization, the Jets. What probably in the last I 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 4: gues say, that's twenty five years. Yeah, the best names. 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 4: Now I played one of the best. I think I 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 4: had Vinnie tested Bird. That was good. But Vinnie probably 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 4: was like the last. To me, Bennie was like the 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 4: one of the greats that would it probably didn't exceed 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: to the expectation that people probably wanted. But you say 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 4: Brett fa Arm, now you say Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, you 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: know what I mean? Those who so let me. 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: Just ask you a question, Taylor. So basically, they're gonna 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: give up. 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: They're gonna swap first this year, so not a big 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: deal thirteen to fifteen, and then they got a second 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: round pick that's going to be a first round pick 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: next year. If he plays more than sixty five percent 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: of the well, go ahead, talk as but how long 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: is he going to be playing? As my question, that's 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: my one criticism. 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: That's the only question. And that's the thing that bothered 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: me the most about Aaron Rodgers because you know the talent. 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: We know he's exceptionally I mean, he's one of the 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: best still, and he don't have to go out there 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: and really put the effort in like he's the guy 38 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: that's always going to. 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 6: Go diva diva. And that's the problem. You are deep 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 6: in football. You are unpredictable, like he're gona think about it. 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 6: The Jets all in on this year after this year, 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 6: they don't know what he's gonna do it. 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 4: That's where the second round to the first run? Are 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: they sold for just one year? Do they want more 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: out of that? That's my question? 46 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 5: They want more? 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, but are you gonna get more? 48 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: I mean, the thing that bothers me about it is 49 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: he's kind of he's been on the decline. Last year 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: was not a great year. He still throw it, he 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: can still spin it. 52 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Right. 53 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a thumb injury, but. 54 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: Definitely not the guy that was the MVP caliber guy 55 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: from two years ago. Right, You're giving up to two 56 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: first round picks for a guy who talked about retiring 57 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: this year. 58 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 5: He did go to the Darkness Retreat. 59 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 6: He stayed there in front. He stayed in the dark 60 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 6: for seventy two hours. He contemplated retirement, and now he's back. 61 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: Put like this. I love players that have a chip 62 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 5: on their shoulder. 63 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 6: For some reason, I feel like Aaron feels disrespected. 64 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: That's the only reason why he wanted to be a Jet. 65 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: Because you got to think about it. He basically said, 66 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: you signed me last year to a three year extension 67 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 4: and then now I'm gonna tell you, well, maybe I 68 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: think I can go to a Super Bowl or or 69 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 4: or could tend for a championship, but maybe not here. 70 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 4: How you say that when this team just went out 71 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 4: on the limit and said, Okay, we're gonna give you 72 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: another three years to do whatever you feel like you 73 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: can do to get us to the Promised Land. So 74 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: to me, I think he's one of those persons that 75 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: he wants everything to be about himself and he wants 76 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: to move when he wants to move. You can't do 77 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 4: that with these. 78 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 6: And nobody's talking about Jordan Love like everybody's talking about Aaron. 79 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 5: And to me, Aaron is the brute, the beauty queen 80 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 5: with the dead. 81 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: Tooth in the matter. I'm just telling you. I'm just 82 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: telling you. 83 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 5: And you talk to her. 84 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 6: Until you sit down and talk to her, you can't 85 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 6: really focus on who she is. And joy Love is 86 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 6: that that Cinderella that they've been hind in the basement 87 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 6: for three four years. I will not be shocked if 88 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 6: they get a tight end with that new second round 89 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 6: pick and they get the wide receiver he needs and 90 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 6: Jordan Love comes. 91 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: Out and ball. Don't quote me, but don't be surprised 92 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: they win more than eight games with Jordan Love this year. 93 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 6: So I think I think Chicago and Detroit out of class, 94 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 6: out of North right now, I think Chicago and Detroit. 95 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: So do you think one of the I think one 96 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: of the reasons that Aaron was frustrated there wasn't a 97 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: lot of like elite pass catchers in Green Bay. How like, so, 98 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: why why all of a sudden is love going to 99 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: come in and make that kill that skill position group. 100 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: Better because the offense that he's in, you don't have 101 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: to be lead because everyone can be lea, everyone could 102 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: be lead. You remember running in that offense, we had 103 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 4: five receivers that all had five hundred, six hundred yards 104 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: together and we won twelve games that year. Yeah, so 105 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you don't have to 106 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: have an elite receiver that that pass and makes everyone 107 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: everybody's option. 108 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: So you had one of the best in Aaron Rodgers. 109 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: He's going to the Jets. Like do you think that 110 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: because it's the same offense. It's it's it's West Coast. 111 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: The offensive cooridator in New York was from the forty 112 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: nine ers, right, So, like, like, how do you feel 113 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: about that? Do you think he'll be able to kind 114 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: of revitalize his career or is he just kind of 115 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: this diva that's never going to be that guy. 116 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna say this, as much as I just 117 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: channed those that JT S Jets, do not come up 118 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: there and be less than yourself. Rocks not come to 119 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: New York and be less than yourself because those fans 120 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 4: will turn on you quickly. And so you could go 121 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: in there, you could come from Wisconsin with that diva stuff. 122 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 4: Don't go in to Manhattan with that diva stuff. Wherever 123 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: they that over there, they're not playing point on this one, 124 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 4: that that that Green Bay media is one is guarded 125 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: and protected. 126 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 6: He can he is the president of Milwaukee. He can 127 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 6: do what he wants to when you come to New York. No, no, no, no, no, 128 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 6: You're just. 129 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: Piece of the puzzle. He's wrong over there. Wants to 130 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 4: watch what see. 131 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 5: I'm willing. 132 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 6: I want to see what happens after the Jets you 133 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 6: lose a game and they put the mic in his face. 134 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 6: I want to see what happens then, because we know, 135 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 6: we know he's that dude that just don't really care. 136 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: He don't care about how you feel. 137 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: So final thought. Good move for the Jets, yes, or. 138 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 4: No, great move for the Jets. 139 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 6: Regular unlady, listen to me. He ain't married. What I 140 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 6: tell you, he ain He ain't married. No more Super 141 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 6: Bowls for him. 142 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 3: Ain't married. 143 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: All right, So that's a lot of Green Bay Jets talk. 144 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: Let's talk about something that's coming up this week, the draft. Right, yeah, 145 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: let's do a little bit what IF's okay? 146 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 5: I love what if? What marvels like? 147 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right? Respect, all right? 148 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: So the first what if is the commanders can't try 149 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: to can't find a trade partner. 150 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, what if that happens? We are taking the sixteen. 151 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: If if it was the fifth, we all be drunk. 152 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 5: I'm a professional drinker. 153 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: I'm like this. I'm you know, I'm big on you know, 154 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: let me take what's given to me. Right now, we 155 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 4: have the sixteen pick. I'm not big on trying to 156 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: get more in up with no y'all know that saying Okay, 157 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: you know when you're playing, I. 158 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: Don't know that. You know what. 159 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: We came up a little different. You know, you came 160 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 4: up with a little different. But what I'm saying is, 161 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 4: if I have for show money, why try to replace 162 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: himblet try to get more money. They end up with 163 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: no money. 164 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. 165 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: Trade back. 166 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily sold on it unless it's the opportunity 167 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: is given, you knowe what I'm saying. So as the 168 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: draft get to going and things kind of trinkle down 169 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 4: to saying Oh, we have a chance to say we can. 170 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: We can. We can go back a couple of and 171 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: still pick up a guy too that we feel that's needed. 172 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: We did it last year. We got we did When 173 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: that time to come right now, it's too premature for 174 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: me to make that call. You see what I'm saying. 175 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: So right now, if you ask me, I'm picking where 176 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: we what's needed. 177 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 3: Either, So what's needed? 178 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: I guess I'm going. I'm gonna going to secondary. I'm 179 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: a receiver and I know on in this division you 180 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: have some elite talent. We're gonna be going up against 181 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: weekend and week I cannot hang my hat on one 182 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: guy every week to try to lock down one guy 183 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: because it's two or three guys on these teams nowadays. 184 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go get me a cornerback. All right, Well, I'm. 185 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: In this race. 186 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 6: I'm gonna get in the car. I'm not gonna push 187 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 6: the gas. I'm not trying to go forward. I'm gonna 188 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 6: put it in reverse. But if you can't, if I can't, 189 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 6: I'm taking the biggest human being left at the draft. Okay, 190 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 6: like literally, like it's sixteen, Who is the biggest offensive 191 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 6: tackle that's left if it's if it's Donale right, first 192 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 6: of all, I want anybody named don All, and if 193 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 6: your first name don All, I want. 194 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 5: You, and you'll see your last name start with a W. 195 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: I want you. 196 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 6: So they could be done there, Washington the tight end, 197 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 6: they could be done Al from Tennessee, I listen, I 198 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 6: want a dune Al Before this. 199 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: Dragt got done in on my list, but I was 200 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: thinking that he might fall a little bit of Washington 201 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: the tackle. 202 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 5: I think he's going up. He's shooting up the board. 203 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna shift a little bit. I think 204 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: I'm hoping. I think it's interesting. 205 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: It's because, like we talked about the tier system, right, 206 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: and all these guys after sixteen or had a tear 207 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: in the same group. 208 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: So you want to trade back. 209 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: But if you can't trade back and the best player available, 210 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: best player by grade, is an edge rusher, Yeah, do 211 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: you take an edg rusher? 212 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: Oh? With what we have going on here, you might 213 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 4: have to, So tell me about it. You might have to. 214 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I just feel like you can't pay 215 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: everybody in a situation you can. 216 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: No one's under contract. 217 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: Of the seven guys on roster, none of them are 218 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: under contract for twenty fourteen, mingo. 219 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 4: So you know you gotta go out there and and 220 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: I can't say you're putting a band aid on it. 221 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: You're going you're fixing that problem. You're fixing it right 222 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: now saying, hey, I'm going to get the guy that 223 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 4: now I know I could pay cheap and give me 224 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: the same kind of production. 225 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: Well, the thing about it is, this is what happened 226 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 5: when you draft. 227 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 6: Well, when you draft, well, you fill a room up 228 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 6: and you can't pay everybody. You said, I want to 229 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 6: pay the interior you paid paying you paid John Allen. 230 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 6: You can only at the most pay one of these guys, 231 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 6: and maybe you franchise one, maybe you fill f option one, 232 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 6: but you're gonna have to manipulate that in your favorite. 233 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 6: So yeah, picking an edge guy, I just don't see 234 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 6: an edge now. I'm a big Nolan Smith guy. I 235 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 6: think Nolan Smith can stylistically. 236 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: Does he fit here though? 237 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: I think he does because he's Michael Parsons. 238 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: To me, I said, I'd find one clip of him 239 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: playing off the ball. 240 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 6: Then I told you, look, not this ship the year before, 241 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 6: this car to play off the bottle. 242 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 5: He's a linebacker. That runs a four forty. He's strong, 243 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 5: he's fast, he's smart. 244 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 4: Listen to me. 245 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 6: He was forced to rush to pass out there is 246 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 6: because this is what George asked him to do, just 247 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 6: like Michael Parsons. 248 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: But if you stand him up. 249 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 6: And say go chase people sideline sideline, he can get 250 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 6: it done. Put it like this in the first round. 251 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 6: I'm looking for unicorns and freaks. I'm looking for people 252 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 6: that stand out. And I don't care if it's a 253 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 6: good thing about that. You meaning this guy one hundred 254 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 6: and sixty pounds. That's different, Anthony Richardson, that's different. I 255 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 6: have to go out and above to make something happen. 256 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 3: Right, what if Robinsons are at sixteen, but. 257 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 4: If he'll still be there seventeen, I swear, I don't 258 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: you know, honestly, So okay, I mean, I'm just be 259 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 4: real like that's a knee. Don't get me wrong. I 260 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: understand you have to sometime, you know, bypass guys like that. 261 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: That's just that's that's the game. But I don't feel 262 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 4: like it's a knee. And I don't feel like running 263 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 4: backs carry that much value. No more for you to say, 264 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out on the limb and bring you 265 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: to much because we know he's a dynamic talent. Yes, 266 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 4: and partly for three or four years, we might get 267 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: all that. But if you ain't get, if you ain't 268 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: soli of find the guys up front or the guys 269 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: on the other side of that we need it, don't 270 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: matter what you do. 271 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: With That's a great point. 272 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: Like if you can get an offensive lineman there right 273 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: to make the run game better, do you, that's gonna 274 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: be a thing that elevates. 275 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 6: Who said we have a problem at running back. I 276 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 6: can literally go to South Carolin. Now pick up Stephen Davis, 277 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 6: who's forty nine years old. If I got offensive line, 278 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 6: he would a big country would run behind him. Like, 279 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, offensive line makes everybody better, 280 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 6: makes your running back look better, make your quarterback look better, 281 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 6: make your office of coordinator with great So at the 282 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 6: end of the day, to simplify this thing for the enemy, 283 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 6: let's go get the guys up front. Let's go get 284 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 6: the hogs, no vegans, Let's go get the hag. 285 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: What if he's Adrian Peterson, Like what that's that's the 286 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: that's the type of evaluation you're talking about. 287 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: He's the best running back that I evaluated. 288 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 6: A fast and quicker, stronger version of lavery Young Bell 289 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 6: because of what he does and whide receiving. Nobody wants 290 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 6: to talk about the things he does. 291 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, man is like if he's a if 292 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer, which is the guy you're 293 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: comparing him to, Like, do you feel weird passing on 294 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: the sixteen? 295 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: I would say I don't feel weird because of the 296 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: offense that he's coming into. If we run anything, if 297 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: we all shell of the team that Eric Enemy came from, 298 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: you could you can put in front back in that 299 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: offense long as long as as long as. 300 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 5: He can run around. 301 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 4: And we have two guys already that can do what 302 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: those guys over there was doing already. And so that's 303 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: why I said, I'm not big on going out, going 304 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: on the limbit to get a guy at that pick. 305 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 5: Antonio Gibson is going to have a hell of a year. 306 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: Like like averb Enemy probably looks at Gibson and probably 307 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 6: haven't stopped sliding out of his mouth since he got here. 308 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 5: Because I'm just saying. 309 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 6: I played against Andy Reid my whole career, and he 310 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 6: always had a Brian Ristbrook and Do Staley for us, 311 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 6: and he would use him in unconventional ways and they 312 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 6: would just they would abuse us. 313 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: That's a question I'd like to ask you, guys. Do 314 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: you think that Gibson has that level of route running 315 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: he want to his game? Think about though, think about Westbrook, 316 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: Think about the guys you just mentioned, those guys that 317 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: are hyper quick. 318 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 4: They with shat backs to guys so that they was 319 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: a little more quick. 320 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: Long shried guy. 321 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: He's explosive, no doubt, but he doesn't have that that 322 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: Santana maas short area running twice round. 323 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: You're right, but that might be question and that's one 324 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: of the reasons why we didn't see him as much. 325 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: But I thought last year when we when we needed 326 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 4: to use him more in the passing game better, he 327 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: showed us that, look, man, I can do whatever. And 328 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 4: I think last year he played with that chip knowing 329 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: you brought a guy here to take my position. I'm 330 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: gonna show you, guys, now allow me to do the 331 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 4: things you said he was gonna do with me. And 332 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna get a full dose of that 333 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: now in this new offense. 334 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 5: And don't forget it's contract here. 335 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 6: If you want to see a player at his peak, 336 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 6: put him in contract. 337 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: Yet, you know they say bald online when you're playing 338 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 4: the game and they say, I fould you and you 339 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 4: got it. You got it. Don't lie to in the 340 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: football field, because when you try to take a guy 341 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: out of something that he has done and showed you well, 342 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: he played well enough to go out there and be 343 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 4: that guy and you just say I just don't. I 344 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 4: don't need you that much, it always come around to 345 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: bite you, you know what I mean. I think this 346 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: is one of those years that it was me. Just 347 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 4: gave me a call. 348 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 6: He said, if we take Bjne at sixteen, he is 349 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 6: retiring that you brought him up because you could have 350 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 6: brought up a. 351 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: Lot of guys. 352 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: Okay, let me bring someone else up for you. Right, 353 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk about CJ. Stroud, Will Levis, 354 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson top ten. Okay, would you take one of 355 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: those guys. 356 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: At sixteen or would you trade up? Look for a 357 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: sliding Anthony Richardson for a. 358 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 4: Sliding Anthony Richardson, No, I ain't sliding, you smoke. I'm 359 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: like this, I'm a receiver. That's what I'm smoking. I'm 360 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: cool with the way the game has transcending now when 361 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: it comes to these guys can be a little more 362 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 4: loosive outside, and I'm cool with that. But at the 363 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: same time, I need a I need a guy that 364 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: can give me more in the pocket when needed, and 365 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: then you can improv outside. Anthony Richards, Do I believe 366 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: he's a great talent. Yes, and he might be a 367 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: phenomenal guy. You never know what might happen on this 368 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: level when he has a little coach, a little more 369 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: coaching and everything and more game on his belt. Well, 370 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: right now, I'm not I'm not banking on that with 371 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: that pick or trading up for that kind of guy. 372 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: He lansered out. He lanswered, my lot, then that's that's. 373 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: The bridge at sixteen. 374 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: At sixteen, no, he said, no that that day. I 375 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: hear that day, I'm gonna have a loan. I'm gonna 376 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: have a loan sit down with somebody that's in charge 377 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: of my offense and see if that's where we need 378 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: to go. I would think about it, would about. You 379 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 4: don't have to ask me no question. I'm going to 380 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 4: trout back money on that. He ain't gonna he ain't 381 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: gonna be around at sixteen. 382 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: C J. 383 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: Scribe. 384 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 6: When we look back five years from now, c J. 385 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 6: Scroud will not be the player that Anthony rich is 386 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 6: gonna be. One is ready right now, crowd is ready. 387 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 6: Anthon the riches not. He needs to sit the year. 388 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 6: But I promise you when you Pat mahomes this dude, 389 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 6: he will beat them. He will be the player that 390 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 6: you're gonna look back and say, nd hell did y'all 391 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 6: not draft Anthony Richardson. He's staring you know he can't 392 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 6: do everything great right now? Problem wait till tomorrow. 393 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: The only problem I have with quarterbacks like Anthony Richardson 394 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: when they have that huge army, sometime it goes against 395 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: what you're trying to do. And I play with too 396 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: many with a huge um. Jay Campbell R G three mcnow. 397 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: Mcnow was one of the ones that as a veteran, 398 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: I said, you see this guy knows his strength because 399 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: I came to her looking at mcnow my eyes this bit. 400 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: He said it was too hard, and I say, bro, 401 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: he said, I got to take some off it. The 402 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: mother guys they ain't never taking I say, coach O 403 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 4: rich we are young, but that's what I'm saying, a 404 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: young guy, those other young guys I called, I never 405 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: saw him take none off it. They kept going because 406 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: they feel like that what got them to where they at. 407 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 6: Will Levis is a joke. I'm here to tell you, 408 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 6: straight shooter. Well, we do this every year. We got 409 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 6: three or four quarterbacks and we want to prop them 410 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 6: all over time. He's Zach Wilson and we're looking at 411 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 6: Zach Wilson junior. 412 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 5: Again, you don't think Wilson so. 413 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson was so much more of a projection man, 414 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: the way he like his lack a field in the pocket. 415 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: At least Levis plays quarterback. At least he plays a 416 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: Western hood. He played back. I mean last year not great, 417 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: But in twenty twenty one he look like that. 418 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 6: Dude, and my granddaddy was looking good in two thousand. 419 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 4: All I'm saying, and no, no, no, no, no, like. 420 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 5: We know this, he go the truth. Five quarterbacks. Let's 421 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 5: just put her and the Hook in the group. 422 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 6: We know for a fact only two we'll actually be 423 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 6: good quarterbacks to a Pro Bowl. 424 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 5: The numbers tell us that. 425 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 6: And my two when we look back, I think Bryce 426 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 6: Young and Richardson will be the but I'm really really like. 427 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 4: Hook you take Richardson over Stroud though, Yeah, it's more. 428 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: He's just said he's got more upside. 429 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 4: Now, no, no scribe, he goes scribe problem. He throws 430 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: to wide up and receiving their beat quarterbacks all the time. 431 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 4: He has the best officive line he's never thrown on. 432 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: There you were, I'm gonna fight you right now. You 433 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: took my exact argument. He said it was dumb like 434 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: three days ago, and now you're using all this on. 435 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 6: I apologize, apologize about your. 436 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 4: No. 437 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 5: No, I had to go back and watch. 438 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: What you all right, as long as I'm just some 439 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: credible I'm. 440 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 6: Giving you ready for your source for I don't know 441 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 6: what he is under the wrest, but I haven't seen 442 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 6: him throw the spots and make those guys go get 443 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 6: the ball. 444 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: I've seen that plenty of times. I watched plenty of 445 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: games where he threw to the spot was in there. 446 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 6: The Georgia game was the one game that I said 447 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 6: he balleding out and this is who he could be. 448 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: That was the game. 449 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 4: Let's just be honest. Do you think that a little 450 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: bit of what Ohio State puts out at that position? 451 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 5: Yes, he is a. 452 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 4: Prisoner to being a Okay, I can take that more 453 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: than saying that he might not running back. 454 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 6: Pen State like Penn State running backs of Florida receivers 455 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 6: like they get to the next level and do not 456 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 6: paying out. 457 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: All right, so we can talk about we literally talk 458 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: about that all day. We've got a little time with 459 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: it all. I need you to share draft day story 460 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: from both of you. 461 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 3: Guys. 462 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: Doesn't need to be about You can be about anything. 463 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: Draft day story maybe when you got picked, you know 464 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: something about whatever. 465 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 4: My draft day story is quick. I mean it's typically me. Mine. 466 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 4: Mine was you know, it was crazy because it was 467 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: a dream come true. I honestly knew I was gonna 468 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: be a first round pick. Didn't know when? 469 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 3: Did you know that? 470 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 4: I knew that before. I knew that when I had 471 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 4: to go to the so my junior year, they wanted 472 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: me to come out like Tanna, you done enough, they 473 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: want you to come out. No, I didn't want to 474 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: do it. When in my senior year balled out and 475 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: now guys like you don't have to go to the 476 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl. I went and went to the combine. Everyone 477 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: was mad that I didn't participate, and they told me 478 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: that we're not showing up at your pro day. I 479 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 4: had every team there and some you know, at my 480 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: pro day killed my pro day. It ran a four 481 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 4: to two and didn't even do my drills. So I'm 482 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 4: a first rounder. Now. The thing that went and got 483 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 4: kind of iffy is where the Jet I mean not 484 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: the Jets. The Dolphins put something in the newspaper to 485 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 4: try to get me to draw. They wanted to get 486 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: me later in the first They said, never been a 487 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: guy under five to ten that goes top ten in 488 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: the first round, and so my agent shot shot something 489 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: at them like how could you do this to us? 490 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: We knew it was all a game. They wanted me 491 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 4: to fall to thirty something so they can get me. 492 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 4: And then they went later and said, okay, we're you know, 493 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: are bad, you know, but they put that the backpage. 494 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: So it's crazy how things happened. But still it was said, 495 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: Santana will not go top ten or first receiver only 496 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: because he's under six feet. But I was gonna be 497 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: a first round pick, so I knew that mark part 498 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: of it. Fast forward to my draft day. I didn't 499 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 4: want no one at my house but my immediate family. 500 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: I say, look here, man. At the end of the day, 501 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: these are the people that watched me on this journey, 502 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 4: and it's all I need until it's all sit and done. 503 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: And when it happened, it happened. I was shocked because 504 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: I didn't want to go to New York. It wasn't nothing. 505 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 4: I knew nothing about New York but the one time 506 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: I had a trip there, and it was I had 507 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 4: took many trips, but that was the only trip I 508 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: had for pleasure. It was a senior breakfast my senior year. 509 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: The Big East Breakfast was held there and it was 510 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: just dreary. We was in Manhattan. It was dirty. I 511 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: was looking at I was like, damn, well, I don't 512 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 4: want to be here. It seemed like it's the pressing 513 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: a little bit. And I didn't have no I didn't 514 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 4: I didn't have a recollection of what team. I didn't. 515 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: I knew nothing about the Jets or the Giants, you 516 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 4: know what I mean. It wasn't a team that I followed. 517 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 4: I just said to myself that day, being in that situation, 518 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: that man, I don't want to come up here. And 519 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 4: God bless the dead. One of my teammates, our Blades, 520 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: Our Blades say man, shut up, You're gonna be right 521 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: here next year. And when they called my name, I said, 522 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 4: damn al Jenkson. And that's what happened to me. Said, 523 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: I went my draft, first round, sixteenth pick. 524 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, how about you, Fred? What you picked? 525 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 6: Second round forty third pick? In mine situation is very similar. 526 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 6: I cheered at home. I end up written out of 527 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 6: Big Sports by just for my family. So me and 528 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 6: my family. 529 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 3: Come and how many people you think with a smooth. 530 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: Family is here? Yeah? 531 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 5: So it was at least one hundred people there. 532 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 6: I know because they drunk all the free liquor that 533 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 6: I had to pay for, So you know, I enjoyed it. 534 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 6: But I sit in the back and I sat with 535 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 6: my grandmama and my mom. That was my support group, 536 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 6: and I just I remember just watching the names and 537 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 6: I took I was writing every name that got drafted 538 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 6: before me because I couldn't wait to play. 539 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: What do they do? 540 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 4: Three? Two? 541 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 542 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 5: Nate Clemings. 543 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 4: Jamar Fletcher was the guy you ain't like like that, now, 544 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? You liked him as this TN, 545 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: but I'm Fletcher. 546 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 5: But we were there. 547 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 4: They bought American together and. 548 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 6: The words see me and tann I did everything together 549 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 6: senior year, so we kind of filled out of everybody. 550 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 6: So I remember they called my name, and I got 551 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 6: my grandmama, I mean my mom and my left arm, 552 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 6: my grandmom and my right arm, and my mama cried. 553 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 5: My grandma cried, but I'm. 554 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 6: Laughing and crying at the same time because I'm an idiot. 555 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 5: And then I remember my grandma. She started laughing and 556 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 5: her teeth fell out. 557 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 6: You know, she had them old and didn't put enough 558 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 6: poly grip on that. So luckily when it fell out, 559 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 6: I looked and I caught it, and the reporters we 560 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 6: caught it and just looked at me and last and 561 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 6: He's like, good catch. And then they put the mic 562 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 6: on my face, and then I started talking about its name. 563 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 6: But I'll never forget that my grandma tea fell out 564 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 6: of mind. 565 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: Were you excited to come here? We're excited dropped. 566 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: I tell you what I did know. 567 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 6: I was always a big NFC eas guy, but I 568 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 6: didn't know what Mark at this was like, you don't 569 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 6: know about Virginia. You don't hear about Virginia, you don't 570 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 6: hear about Maryland, you hear about Washington. 571 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 4: So I was happy once I got here. 572 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 6: I was like, everything happens for a reason, because I 573 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 6: don't think I needed to be down south, and I 574 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 6: ain't need that I need to come here. 575 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 4: I will say this too, not to because I left 576 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: it out. The only reason I was stunt at the 577 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: draft day because I knew it was always too good 578 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: to be true. Lead them that week, afraid to tell you. 579 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: All I talked to was the press from up here. 580 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 4: Everyone had me coming to Washington, so and I was 581 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: a guy that, you know what, I'm from the show 582 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 4: me state, not literally, but show me you know what 583 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 4: I mean. I didn't want to jump the gun. And 584 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 4: when I saw them pick Rod Gardner, it like when 585 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: I say my parfore you yeah, one pick before me. Yeah. 586 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 4: He went fifteen, I went sixteen. The Jets actually moved 587 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: up to get me at sixteen because they thought I 588 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: was going here also at fifteen. So that was one 589 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: of those those I eye openers, like see Tanna, don't 590 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: jump the gun, Like, don't sit here and have your 591 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: mind made it. And I did that. I was happy 592 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: that I had that kind of mindset, but I was 593 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: still kind of pissed a little bit because I kind 594 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: of in the back of my head and the thing 595 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: for it to come. 596 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 5: I trained in. 597 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 6: Boca Raturn, Yeah, not too far from Tanna, so I 598 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 6: don't share that story. So I was working out and 599 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 6: I'm dogging to receive it. At the random house. I 600 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 6: was like, no, man, y'all ain't good enough. I like, y'all. 601 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 6: Take me where Santana? Like, who like Santana mouth? That's 602 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 6: the only person I want to eat. They get, I 603 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 6: get in the car. Some guys take me, Oh in the. 604 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: Gutther in Miami. I'm knocking on door. 605 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 4: What's Santanna? He called me? He called me. Hey. I'm like, 606 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know that voice. But a couple 607 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: of times I don't been on a couple of trips 608 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: and I done met Fred Smooth, so I hear his voice. 609 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 5: He's like, hey, what's up? 610 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: What I'm like, what this is? 611 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 6: I'm like, my notice, Fred Smooth Man, I'm right here 612 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 6: in care City. 613 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 5: Man, come out as I can lock you up the 614 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 5: phone up on it the. 615 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 4: Phone. And then I found out, lady that someone that 616 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 4: I knew my numbers, get my number out number my 617 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: boy smooth My, he just one of those characters. When 618 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 4: I met him, I came back from the Playball American 619 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: I say, bro, I had to meet the funniest dude ever. 620 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: This dude, Fred Smooth, talked about everybody what they I said. 621 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 4: He knew everything about you doing. That's one of the 622 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: things about his football, I Q was unheard of. 623 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 6: I never saw anything without the internet. Friend, I studied 624 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 6: players like Freddy Miller. 625 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 4: He talked about Freddy Miller's that he said, see that, 626 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: the guy like, see you, Man. 627 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 5: I have a hard time with him. 628 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: Man, I'm lock him up all day time running. He 629 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 4: can't run round, can't get deep, can't catch you contested pass. 630 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 4: He knew. It was like he had your bio in 631 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 4: his palm of his hand. He would talk about you. 632 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 6: On the spot watching I was watching VSA, watching what 633 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 6: we had at the time. I would just watch these 634 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 6: dude knowing I ain't gonna play them, but I know 635 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 6: one day I'm gonna player either. 636 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 5: Play them or play somebody with the same feel set. 637 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 4: So he was shocked. He was shocked, and it was 638 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: crazy that we end up coming together anyway. So that 639 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 4: was crazy. 640 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: Well, holy cow, guys, I learned something that those are 641 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: awesome stories. And so if you guys listening. 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