WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Thursday Hour Two

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 2>It's just been in the last few years I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that they've started breaking down intelligence into different groups. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it used to be smarter dumb, but now there's different

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of intelligence, including emotional intelligence. And I ran into

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who had very low emotional intelligence or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>ability it is that some people have or don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to read a room to read other people's body language

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<v Speaker 2>or faces or whatever, and it's amazing. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>have run into several people. I know some people that

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<v Speaker 2>are very high on that, Like I think Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinarily high on that. He probably actually is genius level

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to emotional intelligence. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of successful people probably are. But I've known some really smart,

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<v Speaker 2>successful people that seem to have like zero I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like imbeciles when it comes to emotional intelligence. And

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<v Speaker 2>I met one on vacation as I said the world's

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<v Speaker 2>least humble marine, and yes, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just going to say, do you think a

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<v Speaker 3>decent description of emotional intelligence is understanding how the other

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<v Speaker 3>person is receiving an exchange perceiving that?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And it seems to me the people that are

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<v Speaker 2>really bad at it have never even considered the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of wondering however people are reacting to them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like, truly, the uh, you have no idea,

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<v Speaker 3>how bad you or the more dumb you are, the

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<v Speaker 3>smarter you think you are, one of those things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone asked that question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the whole incompetent people don't know they're incompetent.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess that's true on all topics and my

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<v Speaker 2>experience with military people as we've Joe and I have

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<v Speaker 2>done so many things with so many military people over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, and we both have family members in the military.

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<v Speaker 2>Military people tend to be pretty humble just the way

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<v Speaker 2>they are, and the higher up the food chain you

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<v Speaker 2>go in that the more likely they are to be humble,

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<v Speaker 2>like Special Forces dudes, super humble guys. You would never

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<v Speaker 2>know they And most Marines I've ever met in my

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<v Speaker 2>life were like that also except for this guy. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on vacation and my son and I is actually

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<v Speaker 2>going to be both my boys and I were going

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<v Speaker 2>to take this boat trip. It's like this inflatable boat

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<v Speaker 2>probably fit fifteen to twenty people on it, maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of motors, and you're going to go out on

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean and it was described is a pretty rough

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<v Speaker 2>ride and then you ride around in the ocean and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's gonna be some snarkling and then a ride

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<v Speaker 2>back and has a pretty long trip. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>three hours total. But anyway, they made it clear it

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<v Speaker 2>is really rough. And then my youngest son decided he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to do it, and thank god he made

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<v Speaker 2>that decision because he would have never been able to

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<v Speaker 2>handle it. It was grueling. I mean it grueling. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to you had to have your feet underneath

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<v Speaker 2>these straps and then you had to hang on with

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<v Speaker 2>both hands to these other ropes. Have you done this before?

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<v Speaker 1>I have?

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<v Speaker 4>And these boats are not a smooth ride.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, super rough and you like had to hang

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<v Speaker 2>on really hard with your legs and your arms to

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<v Speaker 2>stay in the boat. It was and it was hours

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<v Speaker 2>of this and it is a pretty physically grueling thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do. And it was fun, but I mean you'd

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<v Speaker 2>go over waves and land and boom, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like such a jolt to your spine. I mean, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was wrong. AnyWho. So before we got on the boat,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a young dude in a bucket, hat, sunglasses and

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<v Speaker 2>a this is on the fourth of July, a white

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<v Speaker 2>and blue speedo. And he's a super fit guy, like

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<v Speaker 2>big guy, guessing like six two two ten, very fit,

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<v Speaker 2>very muscular dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to clarify, the bucket had the sunglasses, the speedo

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Okay, all right, he had flip flops on. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>grandam have a pair of flip flops red white and

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<v Speaker 2>blue speedo and and uh, you know, there's a variety

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<v Speaker 2>of groups so like husbands and wives or boyfriends and girlfriends,

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<v Speaker 2>or like me and my son. And then he's by

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<v Speaker 2>himself and they talk about before we're gonna get on

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<v Speaker 2>the boat. The captain who is a super cool dude,

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<v Speaker 2>really really cool dude. He was a six years in

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<v Speaker 2>the Coastguard and then he's run other big ships around

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<v Speaker 2>the world and he piloted this thing and he went

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<v Speaker 2>in and out of Rocks. I mean, he's like one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most confident people I've ever been around. In

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<v Speaker 2>my wife, I wish I was like him. He was military,

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<v Speaker 2>so that factors the story because he was like your

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<v Speaker 2>regular military guy, kind of humble and you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to show off or anything like that. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>telling us where all to sit on the boat, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you really want to smoother ride, sit

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<v Speaker 2>in the back. It gets rougher as you go toward

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<v Speaker 2>the front. And then if like you're really worried about this,

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<v Speaker 2>sitting the miller middle pillar. And so there are some

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<v Speaker 2>older people that sat in the middle pillar, some girls dead,

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<v Speaker 2>and it kind of spread out, and my son and

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<v Speaker 2>I were up toward the front. Marine guy takes fronts.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I'll take front, and guy said, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>you're sure, and he said, I'm simper fie man, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about it. Oh right, So right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 2>Marines never freaking tell you you're the marine unless it

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<v Speaker 2>comes up in conversation. The fact that he just said

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<v Speaker 2>that right there is the first time I've ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>that in my life. At the guy in the speedo.

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<v Speaker 2>So he gets up there and he's sitting toward the front,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, we take off on the boat and he's

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<v Speaker 2>just non stop talking the whole time, never stops talking,

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<v Speaker 2>talking to the captain, talking to all the girls around him.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, non stop chatterbox caught it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how many times you mentioned he was a marine or

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<v Speaker 2>he was simperfie. Wait, too many times not hanging on

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<v Speaker 2>to any of the ropes. He would just fly up

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<v Speaker 2>in the air and land and kind of balance some stuff. See,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to hang on I'm simper fine.

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<v Speaker 4>And I hate them already.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know. And it gets worse. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>going around, and so they start handing out The captain

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<v Speaker 2>starts handing out gloves. He said, you're you're, you're. Your

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<v Speaker 2>knuckles are gonna get rubbed bloody holding onto the ropes

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<v Speaker 2>against the canvas of the boats. Let me guess, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to wear gloves, you can get him.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I don't need them, and the captain CD,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know you'd take any captain city. The captain

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<v Speaker 2>is already tired of this, dude. You can tell. Captain says, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't figure you'd want to. Of course, not simper five.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't use gloves. Okay, we get it. Dude, you've

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<v Speaker 2>made it clear to everyone on this tiny boat who's

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<v Speaker 2>hurt you already you were in the Marines. He's actually

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<v Speaker 2>still the Marines. But you're a tough guy. We all

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<v Speaker 2>fully understand the whole dynamic of what's We just stipulate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Move on.

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<v Speaker 4>We get it, and it's neat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So we're on this boat ride and the captain

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<v Speaker 2>points out a couple of hikes and swims that people

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<v Speaker 2>do in this touristy area on the ocean, and he

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<v Speaker 2>talks about this one. It's a seventeen mile hike and swim.

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<v Speaker 2>Not very many people do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really hard to do. It's really grueling. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to be like an expert swimmer. Marine voices. I

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<v Speaker 2>just did it, did it yesterday. I didn't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was that big a deal. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, this is why you go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>It says when you go whoops and accidentally just donkey

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<v Speaker 6>kick him off the side of the bove.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if only his dad had told him like once,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm proud of you, son, or a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, you think that's it? Uh, that could be

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<v Speaker 2>it and not a shock that he was by himself.

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<v Speaker 2>But so he had done this grueling like seventeen mile

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<v Speaker 2>coastal swim or whatever, and the captain, the coast guard

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<v Speaker 2>veteran guy was pretty impersonally, said wow, you did that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, yeah, I didn't think it was that much.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, I don't know how many people have

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<v Speaker 2>done that? Were you with? Some people? Says by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, man, that's not a very good idea. I

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<v Speaker 2>usually suggest if people are going to do that swim

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<v Speaker 2>they have a boat with him or nah, that says

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<v Speaker 2>a marine guy. Okay, fine, we get that going. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's the ending of my story. This is my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>part of the whole thing. The captain, super cool guy

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<v Speaker 2>has a big speaker on his boat and he's blasting

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<v Speaker 2>music the whole time, which made it kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's got like a bunch of different cool songs,

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<v Speaker 2>so Jimmy Buffett tunes and different stuff like that and

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, kind of songs that people would like.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this song comes on Michael, So that song

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<v Speaker 2>starts and the marine says, hey, you know what I

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<v Speaker 2>call this song. Captain'sy like, what Freeballin'. Oh no, he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what Freeballin'. You know you haven't ever heard that term Freeballin'.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when guys don't wear underwear, we call it

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<v Speaker 2>freeballin And I wanted to say to him, everybody got it, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>We all underst stood from the first moment you said

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<v Speaker 2>that you're pun You're you're you're fantastic punn. We just

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was like coursing uncool, and there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a couple of they're not children on here,

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<v Speaker 2>but just a couple like high school girls or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>not appropriate content for them or whatever. So then when

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<v Speaker 2>it gets to the chorus, the course comes on and

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<v Speaker 2>he stands up. So now free balling, like really emphasize

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<v Speaker 2>again it frea come on, everybody's a free balling? Are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you testicles? Michael?

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, Yes, they're good. I actually thought, at one point,

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<v Speaker 2>are you a Saturday Night Live bit?

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna ask, are you in the background of

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<v Speaker 3>some jackass ish video you're reacting to? That's wow?

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<v Speaker 2>It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>This guy sounds cringe from start to finish. Every part

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<v Speaker 6>of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate oh yeah, it was just it was tough

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't know if my son was picking up

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<v Speaker 2>on it or not. But when we got off the body,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, God, that guy was an ad you

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<v Speaker 2>know whole u oh yeah, everybody and the captain just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to ignore it. No, what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 2>Free ballin'? Okay? Do you get it? Yeah? I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>We all get everybody gets it. See the problems. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's where I come in with the emotional intelligence thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was clear all of us looking around

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<v Speaker 2>that we I mean, we're all looking at each other.

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<v Speaker 2>We all felt exactly the same way, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to It's like an experiment as a sociologist to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to the guy and say, are you really not

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<v Speaker 2>picking up on any of the cues that everybody on

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<v Speaker 2>this boat is giving that one? They're tired of hearing

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<v Speaker 2>you talk too. They don't think your course jokes are funny,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you really that hasn't sunk into you at all?

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<v Speaker 4>Was he drinking?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think he was a real marine or was he.

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<v Speaker 2>Just being I definitely think he is a real marine

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<v Speaker 2>and he had all the They talked a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>what base you've been on and when you get out

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<v Speaker 2>and blah blah blah, and he had too much knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I think his marine. I just think he.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's a super stud athlete, good looking guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So the the there's a captain, and then there's another

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<v Speaker 2>person who's like the tour guide and talks and takes

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<v Speaker 2>lots of pictures. And she was like twenty five and

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<v Speaker 2>super attractive. She went up to the front to sit

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<v Speaker 2>by him at one point, like when we first started,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think she was singing, here's a single guy,

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<v Speaker 2>good looking guy. I'm good looking girl, I'm gonna talk.

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<v Speaker 2>She was up there like five minutes, went back to

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the boat.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, from the department of this is why you're single, dude?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, uh number number one? Well, I'll skip to

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<v Speaker 3>this second point reminds me of a dude I ran

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<v Speaker 3>into in La Ma's classes when Judy was pregnant with

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<v Speaker 3>her first and it was so obviously a case where

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<v Speaker 3>a big stud dumb ass found himself some hot dumb

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<v Speaker 3>chick and the two of them got together and pretty

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<v Speaker 3>quickly started to make each other insane. And he is

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<v Speaker 3>so clearly headed for that sort of future. He's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be in the outermost, like three percent of utterly clueless.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And man, imagine how difficult that is to make

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<v Speaker 2>it through life if you can't read other people's reactions

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<v Speaker 2>to you at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you're standing on a boat screaming, freeballing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and in a family setting. Yeah, I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't been It wouldn't have been funny if we'd all

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<v Speaker 2>been nineteen year old dudes. It's still yeah, we get it,

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<v Speaker 2>We got it right at the beginning. You don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to sing it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there was no way for the captain to make

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<v Speaker 5>him accidentally fall overboard.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, I was just gonna say, karma really demanded that.

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<v Speaker 3>When the boat flew up in the air, he smacked

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<v Speaker 3>down hard, maybe on them, you know, Karma punishing him

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<v Speaker 3>for his well, the aforementioned sins.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought kind of what you were thinking there

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<v Speaker 2>is like, how many women have fallen for this good

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<v Speaker 2>looking studley dude and how long did it take him

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out? And or is the reverse? Is this

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<v Speaker 2>the really dumb hot chick that guys put up with

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<v Speaker 2>for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I see him connecting with either

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<v Speaker 3>the and forgive me for referencing it in anyway, But

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<v Speaker 3>the Hawk twak girl who was viral for a cup

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<v Speaker 3>of coffee, or the two stupid good looking chicks who

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<v Speaker 3>stole the girl scouts money who we've played the clips

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<v Speaker 3>of whoa Right many times? Well, they had the money

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<v Speaker 3>and I wanted it. Uh, he'll end up with one

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<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Or both of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably Speaking of the Hawk two egg girl, I just

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<v Speaker 6>want to let you know. I was at a bar

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<v Speaker 6>over our vacation and my husband was elsewhere. So this

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<v Speaker 6>guy came up and stood next to me and went, Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to let you know. You look just

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<v Speaker 6>like the hawk two ey girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, And I.

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<v Speaker 6>Said, first of all, no, I don't. Second of all,

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<v Speaker 6>is that your opening line? That's what you're going up

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<v Speaker 6>to chicks now and saying, So anyway, I'm apparently the

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<v Speaker 6>other hawk two ey girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a marine, buddy, I think you should beat

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<v Speaker 3>the two you get along grape.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Armstrong and Joe Fretty, The Armstrong and Getty Show,

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's we're talking about the neo Marxist trying to subvert

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<v Speaker 3>society and what Americans love and are proud of and

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of it, and a lot of people go

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<v Speaker 3>along with them because they think they're doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a Democrat led town in Connecticut. This state trooper

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<v Speaker 3>was killed by a hit and run driver last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Young man family, the whole tragic story that you've heard,

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<v Speaker 3>you know too many times. But several of the council

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<v Speaker 3>people wanted to fly the thin Blue Line flag in

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<v Speaker 3>his honor and explained why they wanted to and what

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<v Speaker 3>a fine fellow he was and what a tragedy it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But several of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Council members said, no, we can't do that. It represents

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<v Speaker 3>racism and antagonism to many many people. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't personally believe that, and you fly it at your

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<v Speaker 3>house and think it means something to you, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 3>but we can't do it because again, it represents racism

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<v Speaker 3>antagonism to many many people. Here's how this works. The

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<v Speaker 3>flag which has always indicated support for concern for love

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<v Speaker 3>for police officers. During the heyday of the defund the

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<v Speaker 3>police movement, the Black Lives Matter movements, which are both

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<v Speaker 3>neo Marxist movements.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to tear down the West.

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<v Speaker 3>They've admitted as much. While they were in the midst

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<v Speaker 3>of that fervor, they convinced people that any support of

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<v Speaker 3>police police is racist and antagonistic, even though it's not

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<v Speaker 3>and it was never intended to be. But they convinced

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of people that a legitimate expression of support

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<v Speaker 3>for police is racist. And so now you have people saying,

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard.

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<v Speaker 2>That's racist, right, or at least controversial. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how that works, as James Lindsay has put it, Really,

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<v Speaker 3>James Lindsay, if you want to control something, call it

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<v Speaker 3>racist until you control it. Here's another brief example. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>a North Carolina teen, North Carolina, you ought to be

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<v Speaker 3>better than this, suspended from school for using the term

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<v Speaker 3>illegal alien in a classroom discussion. An administrator likened that

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<v Speaker 3>to saying the N word, sixteen year old Christian McGee. Right, wow, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so now is this here's the difference between the

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<v Speaker 3>N word and illegal alien.

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<v Speaker 2>I can say illegal alien over and over, just like

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<v Speaker 2>you did, teacher, illegal alien, illegal aid. Try saying the

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<v Speaker 2>N word. You'll notice the different real quick well.

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<v Speaker 3>And Czech federal statutes, you will find the term illegal

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<v Speaker 3>alien all over the damned place. So is this school

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<v Speaker 3>administrator an activist, a Marxist activist, could be there are

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of them. Are they just a soft head

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<v Speaker 3>that has been swept up in thinking? Oh, that's I'm

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<v Speaker 3>told that it's racist to use that term, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna punish anybody who does.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably that one the useful idiot right.

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<v Speaker 3>It is in no way, which is why it makes

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<v Speaker 3>me so crazy that now you hear even Fox News

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<v Speaker 3>using the term migrant. How did we decide to go

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<v Speaker 3>from illegal immigrant to immigrant to migrant? It's because activists

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<v Speaker 3>on the far left insisted on it and said if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't, you're a racist. And people said, dud, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be a racist, So I'll do what

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<v Speaker 3>you tell.

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<v Speaker 5>Me to do.

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<v Speaker 3>How about a little independent thought, folks? Goodness?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you strong?

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<v Speaker 3>And yet? It's The Armstrong and Giddy Show, featuring our

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<v Speaker 3>podcast One more Thing. Download it, subscribe to it wherever

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<v Speaker 3>you like to get podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like to know what's hot. I just partially

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's good for the radio show. Partially, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm interested in note. I like to know if

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<v Speaker 2>there's a super hot band, super hot movie, super hot whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>clothing style, whatever. I just like to know. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the other day I'm walking through the newsroom and Jensen,

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<v Speaker 2>who you may have heard on our show before, she's

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<v Speaker 2>in the newsroom. She said, do you watch The Bear?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, to what now? She said, it is my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite show of all time, Not just my favorite show

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<v Speaker 2>right now, it's the best TV show ever. And now

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, wow, we ought to have you on to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. And then, weirdly, in the next forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight hours, I came across a couple of different articles

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<v Speaker 2>or tweets or whatever from people saying this season of

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<v Speaker 2>The Bear might be better than last season. It's my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite TV show of all time. We brought it up

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<v Speaker 2>on the radio show. We got a number of text

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<v Speaker 2>when people say it's my favorite show ever ever. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a heck of a thing to say.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a story about a guy who takes a trained

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<v Speaker 3>bear around the country playing county fairs, makes the thing dance, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it on cocaine occasionally, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy who drives from town to town in an old truck,

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<v Speaker 2>engaging in street fights, and he's got this charming bear

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<v Speaker 2>that rides with.

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<v Speaker 3>Him that sounds terrific solves people's problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, We got a couple of clips from The Bear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually it's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Story about the guy who's like a brilliant, gifted chef

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<v Speaker 3>and his brother who runs a Chicago sandwich shop, dies

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<v Speaker 3>and he has to take over the family business. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the broad outlines or the very basic outline.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. Well, here's here's the first clip. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>delicate ecosystem and it's held together by a shared history,

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<v Speaker 2>a love. I have every intention of turning this into

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<v Speaker 2>a respectable place of business.

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. The music reminds me. I'd read a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of different places that the soundtrack for The Bear is

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<v Speaker 2>just fantastic. That's one of the things that draws people in.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did as to be Willco there in the background,

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<v Speaker 2>the only, the only the way I can watch a

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<v Speaker 2>TV show as if my kids can watch it. So why,

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<v Speaker 2>I asked Jensen, I said, is it okay for kids?

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<v Speaker 2>She said absolutely not. And I guess this next clip

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<v Speaker 2>will make that evident. It's some of the tension in

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen. Let's hear it, Ebra, make sandwiches. Don't stop

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<v Speaker 2>making sandwiches. I'm gonna make three sections. Okay, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be wet, hot and sweet. All right, I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>green tape. Make those sections, Louis, I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>get the sandwiches. Put them on the corresponding sections. Yea sweet, Yes, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna fire every single chicken we have?

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<v Speaker 4>Please?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Ritchie, do you even know how to do price?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus? Where are we on?

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<v Speaker 7>Cakes?

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<v Speaker 2>Get in there?

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<v Speaker 7>Getting what?

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Still working on this?

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<v Speaker 5>Come on?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you tripping for? Doesn't make a difference.

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<v Speaker 5>There's four kicks and stool.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not even cut yet. I am I'm doing them

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<v Speaker 2>in five big everything, Fire everything. Okay, I'll fire everything now.

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<v Speaker 2>I just was finishing. Step out, Marcus and step out.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to Marcus now. Thank you. We're firing seventy six piece,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four chickens okay, twelve French fries, twelve mash oush.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm you know a deli version, Gordon Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm intrigued. I heard sandwich from people I'm from,

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<v Speaker 2>people have known who worked in kitchens. That is a

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<v Speaker 2>relatively accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Wow wow, It's like if the Sopranos are making sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll check it out. I'll probably watch an episode tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And there's obviously, if people are raving about it,

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's much more to it than the mechanics or

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<v Speaker 3>what can be described.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, obviously. Yeah, if you can, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>give a good flavor of your hard and then pun

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<v Speaker 2>of a show with a thirty second clip, and ain't

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<v Speaker 2>ain't that great? It ain't. That's probably a bad show, right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a song you love the first time you hear,

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<v Speaker 3>it's probably going to bother you by the third time, exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And in being a pigheaded idiot, it took me a

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<v Speaker 3>while to understand that great documentaries are all about people.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all about humankind and our struggles and whether it's well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a story about a guy who trims bear's fingernails

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<v Speaker 3>at a zoo, and I'm thinking, I don't have any

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<v Speaker 3>particular interest in bears fingernails, but it's an award winning documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>Just watch it. It's gonna end up being about life,

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<v Speaker 3>right right, anyway, do we have time for that? While

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose to the podcast, we can make it as

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<v Speaker 3>long as we want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Where Joe Rogan, we got three hours left.

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<v Speaker 3>No thank you. My froat already hurts. At the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the radio show, came across this Twitter thread that

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<v Speaker 3>I thought was absolutely terrific, and we'll post a link

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<v Speaker 3>for you at Armstrong and Getty dot com. It's an

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<v Speaker 3>analysis of how Julius Caesar started his political career. And

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<v Speaker 3>this historian said he was Rome's second greatest orator after Cicero.

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<v Speaker 3>And here are nine lessons from a brilliant early speech

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<v Speaker 3>of his that made his career take off. And he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't as a young man. He came from a good family,

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<v Speaker 3>but he wasn't really taken very seriously. He was deep

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<v Speaker 3>and dead. He had a reputation as a playboy. He

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<v Speaker 3>had kind of a Matt Gaitsiz reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>If I may, he said, I got this idea for

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<v Speaker 2>a salad. Nobody would listen, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, raw eggs, What are you crazy? Anyway? In sixty

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<v Speaker 3>three BC, the conspiracy of Cataline was unearthed. Evidence came

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<v Speaker 3>forward to plots to murder senators, burn the city of Rome,

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<v Speaker 3>overthrow the republic. You can look more into it if

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<v Speaker 3>you want, but the Senate in Rome declared martial law

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<v Speaker 3>to avert the danger and said essentially that the danger

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<v Speaker 3>is so severe there's no time for trials. We've just

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<v Speaker 3>got around these people up and execute them. And Caesar

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<v Speaker 3>thought that was a bad idea, and he delivered a

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<v Speaker 3>speech in the Senate against summary execution. And according to

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<v Speaker 3>this historian, his speech is a master class in swaying

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<v Speaker 3>a group gripped by fear and anger away from acting

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<v Speaker 3>on their urges. And I don't know if we'll go

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<v Speaker 3>through all of this, but we'll do part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Number One, name the emotions your audience is feeling. And

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<v Speaker 3>some of this to you who are like more intuitive, persuasive,

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<v Speaker 3>you're good at you know, you're good at speaking and

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<v Speaker 3>influencing people. Maybe a little obvious to you, but I

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<v Speaker 3>just thought it was interesting to see it laid out.

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<v Speaker 3>So name the emotions your audience is feeling that you

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<v Speaker 3>need them to not act on. Chris Voss calls this

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<v Speaker 3>tactical empathy. Caesar begins by doing this in order to

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<v Speaker 3>clear a little room for reason. Quote, members of the Senate,

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<v Speaker 3>all men who deliberate upon difficult questions had best be

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<v Speaker 3>devoid of hatred, friendship, anger, and pity. When those feelings

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<v Speaker 3>stand in the way, the mind cannot at all easily

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<v Speaker 3>discern the truth. And no one has ever served at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time his passions and his best interests. When

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<v Speaker 3>you apply your intellect, it prevails. If passion takes control,

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<v Speaker 3>it is master, whereas the mind is.

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<v Speaker 2>Entirely impotent and has been my experience, it has.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely been my experience. That would be incredibly unpopular in

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<v Speaker 3>politics today, where anger and passion and yeah, is like

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<v Speaker 3>that's the only thing that matters practically.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I read another study the other day as a tangent

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<v Speaker 3>that people are much easier to mislead when they're anger.

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<v Speaker 3>When they're angry, you can convince them of about anything

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<v Speaker 3>if it feeds their anger.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that's an interesting thought.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought, yeah, I kind of got hung up

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<v Speaker 3>on that because I thought, yeah, not only another person

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<v Speaker 3>can convince me of something when I'm angry, but I

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<v Speaker 3>can convince me of stuff that later I think, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not true. That's not healthy, it's not good that other

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<v Speaker 3>person isn't guilty of that. You're more easy to mislead

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<v Speaker 3>when you're angry.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Caesar went on to say, you're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>really giant baby. I got a plan for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see, but that's not enough. Number two, tell us

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<v Speaker 3>story as quickly as possible. Are several, preferably stories that

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<v Speaker 3>appeal to the audience's identity. Stories from history are good,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if you're talking to a group. Caesar said in

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<v Speaker 3>the Punic Wars, although the Carthaginians, both in peace time

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<v Speaker 3>and during truces, often did many abominable deeds, our ancestors

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<v Speaker 3>never did likewise when they had the opportunity, but they

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<v Speaker 3>took into consideration what conduct would be consistent with their dignity,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than what action could be justified against the Carthaginians,

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<v Speaker 3>so appealed to the shared history of the group. Number three,

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<v Speaker 3>make very clear what the story means and how it

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<v Speaker 3>relates to your point. Caesar's point in the speech is

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<v Speaker 3>showing restraint was essential to the Romans coming to dominate

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<v Speaker 3>the world. That was one of their best qualities. Restraint

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<v Speaker 3>is in your best interests you likewise, members of the

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<v Speaker 3>Senate must see to it that the villainy of Popelius,

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<v Speaker 3>Lentilus and the rest do not have more weight with

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<v Speaker 3>you than your own dignity, and that you do not

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<v Speaker 3>take more thought for your anger than for your good name.

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<v Speaker 3>Number four, affirm emotions while making clear they are not

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<v Speaker 3>relevant to the decision, especially if other voices are actively

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<v Speaker 3>trying to stir up those emotions against your advice. Again,

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.159
<v Speaker 3>empathy plus reason. Are they trying to get us angry?

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 3>We're already angry. In other words, here's what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of those who have expressed their opinions before me

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<v Speaker 3>have deplored the lot of the nation in well structured,

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 3>grand language. They recounted the horrors of the war, the

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 3>wretched fate of the conquered, the rape of maidens and boys,

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 3>children torn from their parents' arms, matrons objected to the

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 3>will of the victors, shrines and houses pillaged, bloodshed, knacts

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 3>of arson, in short, everywhere, arms and corpses, gore, and lamentation.

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<v Speaker 3>But by the immortal gods, what was the aim of

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 3>that eloquence? Was it to make you detest the conspiracy?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if this is the second greatest orator in Rome,

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<v Speaker 3>and I believe the guy's right, I gotta read more.

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<v Speaker 2>Cissera.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Number five, praise your opponent's good intentions, build common ground

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<v Speaker 3>with the real people you need to persuade.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't do any of that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Not really, And he mentions one of the guys who's

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side of it. He calls him a

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<v Speaker 3>gallant and dedicated man who said what he said out

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<v Speaker 3>of patriotism. I know this man's character and such his moderation.

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 3>So he singles out one of his main opponents, praises

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<v Speaker 3>him up and down, and by the way slips in

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 3>in moderation is his greatest quality. Happens to be what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm arguing for.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Number six appeal to tradition and self explanatory. Number seven

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<v Speaker 3>cite more history to show this is a dangerous precedent

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<v Speaker 3>going in the other direction. Number eight recommend an alternative.

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 3>He recommended that they have the guilty guys all their

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<v Speaker 3>assets confiscated, and then be sent to prisons throughout Italy,

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<v Speaker 3>probably to await a trial. Once the danger passed, who

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<v Speaker 3>everybody could calm the f down. Ah, Then here's the twist,

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 3>plot twist. The Senate was swayed at first, but then

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<v Speaker 3>Cato the Younger delivered a speech in favor of execution.

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<v Speaker 3>The Senate adopted Cato's proposal and recommended Cicero execute the prisoners.

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<v Speaker 3>So Caesar lost. Oh but that brings us to number nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Taking stance for moderation can be good even if you lose.

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<v Speaker 3>Caesar probably knew he wouldn't win, but he had an

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:56.719
<v Speaker 3>additional motivation. Cataline raised an army of ten thousand by

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<v Speaker 3>championing the interests of the poor, downtrodden, disaffected Rome, the

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine percent. When Cataline failed and died, the poorn

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 3>down trodden remembered Caesar as a champion of their lost

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<v Speaker 3>cause because he was reasonable and just, and indeed he

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<v Speaker 3>became the emperor.

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<v Speaker 2>And then number ten. Crutons are the key to my salad.

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<v Speaker 2>They allow a crunch that you wouldn't otherwise have.

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<v Speaker 3>Anchovies are no Now, I am staunchly pro anchovy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm disgusted by anchovies.

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<v Speaker 3>There are fishers, right, not or something?

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<v Speaker 2>There are a fisher something?

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a fish or rat? A fish or a shoe string? No,

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 3>they're a fish.

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<v Speaker 2>Very salty sounds disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcasts, Katie. Your view on Ben Affleck smart guy, dumb guy,

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<v Speaker 2>hot guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't care. He's not bad looking. I mean he's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the world's Sexiest man once for People magazine,

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, the last once.

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 3>He's dead sexy. You can't deny it, but he I think.

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<v Speaker 2>He comes off as a dope, which makes you less sexy.

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<v Speaker 6>And in all a lot of the photos I've seen

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 6>of him, at least recently, he always looks mad.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Well he's a drunk. So uh, there's the drunks, unless you,

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, find a way to deal with it, tend

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 2>to be quite unhappy when they're not drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>So I came across this. This was Ben Affleck in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three talking about the future of entertainment,

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 3>and I was own away about you know how much

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 3>he nailed. Michael, we can stop this right and restart it,

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, stop it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's completely impossible, Yes, of course we can.

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<v Speaker 3>You all right, go ahead roll it.

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<v Speaker 7>I believe that the industry has been too slow to

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<v Speaker 7>embrace and adopt these paradigms. If you look at historically

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<v Speaker 7>in terms of technologies, in terms of consumer based technologies,

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 7>you have like basically shared where that introduces the consumer

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 7>to it at no cost, at which point the consumers

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 7>on the hook they figured out, they've worked out the kinks,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 7>they figured out how to interact with it and how

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 7>to exploit it, and then you truge a fee, and

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 7>the consumer historically has been willing to pay that fee.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I think an annual subscription based system is

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<v Speaker 7>the one that works. You have the music business three

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 7>point four billion dollars a year business, okay, which is

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<v Speaker 7>largely about one point seven million people in the country

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 7>spending two hundred dollars a year. That's same people would

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 7>spend those two hundred dollars a year each year to

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<v Speaker 7>have us access to basically the entire library of bist

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 7>in music. And of course you continue to read for

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 7>subscription because you pay for new music. Relators would be

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 7>paid in or directly to the to the artists. You

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 7>have less overhead, you pay no shipping packaging, and you

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 7>pay no You know that there's this mammoth amount of

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 7>executives at music companies that are alowing off a lot

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 7>of that money. I believe that paradigm is the most

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 7>effective productive.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the paradigm that Adam Smith would most want.

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<v Speaker 7>I think their inefficiencies in the market now and I

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<v Speaker 7>think they're being worked out. And I think file sharing

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:25.719
<v Speaker 7>is pushing the industry towards death balance because you know,

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 7>it's because of its availability right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, eventually it's just going to be video on demand,

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>movies on demand because bottom line is going to eventually

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>affect your guys's pocketbooks if piracy container.

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<v Speaker 7>Piracy movies, and it will be it'll be moves on demand,

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 7>but it'll be a tear structure. It will be like

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<v Speaker 7>if you want to watch it first weekends, maybe it

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 7>won't be available first weekend, but then if you want

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 7>to watch it, you know, you'll pay more. And then

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 7>as it goes to another stage and its release, it'll

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 7>become less expensive. But there's a lot more adoption that

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 7>has to happen technologically speaking right now before people can

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 7>watch movies or at least integrate in terms of the

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 7>PC web connection. You know, the catacnology is not quite

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 7>there yet, but it will be within I would say

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 7>five years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty impassive, and he drops in Adam Smith in

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>there I changed my mind about Ben Affleck.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't know how far ahead of his

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 3>time was, but if I'd been listening to that and

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 3>had some cash around, I might have thought, Wow, people

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 3>are going to be streaming music instead of buying it physically.

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I ought to get on the ground floor of whoever's

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 3>doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember what was going on in two thousand

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 2>and three, that's clear back in like napster days, wasn't

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 2>that Like.

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<v Speaker 6>That's exactly because I was trying to think, why would

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 6>he be talking about this? But this is when Napster

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 6>and LimeWire were really big for people pirrating music.

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Now, Michael, you or someone that you knew, not you,

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't do that now whatever someone you knew used

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 2>to get pirated movies like somehow. Do you remember how

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 2>they had.

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 5>All sorts of burning DVD software that yeah, people could do.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>And they would just find him on websites online.

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 5>I him online. You could uh take the physical media

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 5>and then copy it. Ever were things that got around

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 5>the You.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, can that same person still do that to this

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 2>day or is it harder now?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can definitely do it today, But it just

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<v Speaker 2>not makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Find point.

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<v Speaker 5>That's yeah, it doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess Ben Affleck's point was what you're calling

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<v Speaker 3>pirrating and and file sharing and all that is clearly

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<v Speaker 3>the way things are going and and and.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you didn't he didn't catch his his uh term

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<v Speaker 2>and for whatever reason, his Boston accent was really coming

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Did he not work as hard back then

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of his his share where it's wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and smart, the share where.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to have the sharewear.

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<v Speaker 2>That was kind of funny. Oh yeah, with the sharewear.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucky cat Jimmy's getting He's got sharewear for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You give you a floppy diss just take it from him.

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