WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: One Thing At A Time

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The One Thing at a Time addition, as the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>look to earn that badly needed first victory as they

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<v Speaker 2>face Andy Dalton and the Carolina Panthers. Coming up, did

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<v Speaker 2>you know that andre Yosi vash is tied for the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL lead and touchdown catches. We'll discuss that and whether

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks he could have won an Olympic medal in

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<v Speaker 2>the decathlon last summer. Then I'll talk to a legendary

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas cowboy who was on a team that started zho

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<v Speaker 2>and two and came back to win the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest thing since Mike Valentine. Cincinnati lost one of

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<v Speaker 2>its greatest philanthropists last week when my friend Mike Valentine

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<v Speaker 2>passed away at the age of seventy four. He graduated

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<v Speaker 2>with an engineering degree from the University of Cincinnati in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventies and became a legend in the radar

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<v Speaker 2>detector industry, inventing technology that was vastly superior from what

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<v Speaker 2>it existed before, and then doing it again and again.

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<v Speaker 2>We became friends through his love of UC sports, and

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<v Speaker 2>Mike is truly among the most extraordinary people I've ever met,

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<v Speaker 2>and he and his wife Peg have been incredibly generous

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<v Speaker 2>to the same Cincinnati community, including a multi million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>gift to the Cincinnati Ballet. He was a brilliant and

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<v Speaker 2>kind man who made Cincinnati a better place. Now let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to football. It's no surprise that Justin Jefferson has

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<v Speaker 2>tied for the league lead in touchdown catches with three,

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<v Speaker 2>but fans around the country probably didn't expect one of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that shares the top spot to be andre

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<v Speaker 2>Yosi Vash. He's become one of the bengals top red

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<v Speaker 2>zone targets and I discussed it with a former Princeton

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<v Speaker 2>track star this week. Andre you are tied for the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL lead in touchdown catches with three and if you

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the final game of last year, you

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<v Speaker 2>had two in that game. So that's five touchdown catches

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<v Speaker 2>in your last four games. Has this become ho hum?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess those statistics. You can't really fight those statistics.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, you know, me and Joe just have

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of knack there of I don't know, just

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<v Speaker 3>chemistry with each other there that can't be explained. So's

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty lucky to pretty fortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>For that to be my stats. They've all come in

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<v Speaker 2>the red zone. Do you think your size and your

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<v Speaker 2>strength is a factor in that compressed area?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you know, my build, my size, my strength

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<v Speaker 3>also like my quickness that people might or like smaller

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<v Speaker 3>dbs might not know about. You know, I'm quicker than

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<v Speaker 3>my people would think, so I can break it off

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<v Speaker 3>at any point, just like against the Chiefs like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That throughout the pilot, I broke them off with a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of yard separation, and I only had a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>small box to work in, So I think everything there

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<v Speaker 3>that I have physically works in my favor.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you still save the touchdown balls at this point?

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<v Speaker 4>Nah?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't say any of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe if something happens like next to my birthday again,

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<v Speaker 3>or if it's like a game winning one, then I'll

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<v Speaker 3>save it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Visiting with andre Yosi vash on Monday night, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the first time this year that you, Jamar Chase t

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<v Speaker 2>Higgins were on the field at the same time. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you see a difference in the defense with those two

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<v Speaker 2>guys out there with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I mean I saw a difference. I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of felt a difference in the offense, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like we were able to get into more

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<v Speaker 3>of a rhythm. I mean, obviously we had a great

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<v Speaker 3>game against Kansas City as well, but something just felt

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<v Speaker 3>like it flowed and the energy felt like what it

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<v Speaker 3>should have been when all three of.

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<v Speaker 1>Us were out there.

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<v Speaker 2>He scored ten points in week one, twenty five in

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<v Speaker 2>week two, and thirty three in week three. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>cooking now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think the offense is definitely cooking. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're all you know, it's it's interesting because you lose

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<v Speaker 3>some of your guys last year and then this year

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<v Speaker 3>is still trying to find a rhythm and find out

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<v Speaker 3>what works, what personnel groupings work, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>once you find that rhythm, you know it's just got

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<v Speaker 3>to keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a buddy that when the Bengals lose

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<v Speaker 2>a tough game, he goes home, he pops on episodes

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<v Speaker 2>of funniest home videos that he's saved just to take

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<v Speaker 2>his mind off the game. Do you do after a

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<v Speaker 2>tough loss?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's actually not too.

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<v Speaker 3>Like far off what I do sometimes, Like if I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to decompress or something, I'll go on YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>watch fales of the year like or an office episode

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<v Speaker 3>that makes me feel comfort, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not too far off what I would do.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I'm gonna pass that along.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the message this week among the players and coaches

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<v Speaker 2>in the locker room?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, just keep the intensity high, hold people accountable,

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<v Speaker 3>and just you practice more than you play in this

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<v Speaker 3>in this sport, so if you practice just as hard

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<v Speaker 3>as you play and with the right intentions, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>good things will happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina really struggled in the first two weeks, then they

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<v Speaker 2>crushed the Raiders last week with Andy Dalton at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Did that eliminate any possibility of taking them lightly?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, team wise, you don't take any other

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<v Speaker 3>opponent lightly. You know, the NFL is a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>coach Coach Taylor says all the time, it's a hard

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<v Speaker 3>league to get wins in, and I think all of

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<v Speaker 3>us are bought into that. You know, we have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of veteran leadership as well, and everybody knows how

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<v Speaker 3>hard it is to get a w in this league.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wouldn't say necessarily it was it we would

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<v Speaker 3>have taken them any later.

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<v Speaker 2>That happens for the rest of us, not for the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that actually are out there playing. All right, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious about something, Andre. You were fined for shooting

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<v Speaker 2>an imaginary bow and arrow after scoring a touchdown in

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City. Forgive my ignorance, celebrations are allowed. Why would

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<v Speaker 2>that be fined.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they had said that it was an act of violence,

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<v Speaker 3>but in I don't know, I was I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>I was in Arrowhead playing the Chiefs. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 3>have their stadium is Arrowhead. You don't you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>me to shoot a bone arrow there? I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>is asking for it to happen, so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>appeal it. I didn't think it was too violent. I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't doing it at anybody. But you know I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know I've seen worse.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that one really confused me.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Final question for andre Yosibosh. At the Summer Olympics in Paris,

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<v Speaker 2>the gold in the cafalon went to Marcus Ruth of Norway.

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<v Speaker 2>The silver went to Leo neig Bauer, you know the

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<v Speaker 2>name from Germany. The Brons went to Linden Victor of Grenada.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you competed against any of them, and had you

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<v Speaker 2>concentrated on the decathlon, could you have been a medalist

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<v Speaker 2>this year?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So I competed against Leo my junior year of college

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<v Speaker 3>at nationals. He got first. I got fourth there, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the points weren't too far apart there. First, second, third,

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<v Speaker 3>and fourth were all neck and neck, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that definitely. I mean I was competing with them at

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<v Speaker 3>the national level, and you know in the NCAA. You

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<v Speaker 3>have guys, you know, coming from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Germany, I mean Leo's from Germany and he

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<v Speaker 3>competed for Germany and the Olympics. This other guy named

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<v Speaker 3>Aidan Owens, He's from Puerto Rico, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're competing against basically the guys who are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be at the Olympics. And I was right there with them.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that if I'm trained for the whole year,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this guys would have been the limit.

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<v Speaker 4>For me there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think the sky's a limit for me here.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't think any of those guys would

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<v Speaker 2>have five touchdown catches in the last four games.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think I can put that. Yeah, Athletically,

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<v Speaker 3>I have that over them for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, all right, appreciate your time. Best of luck

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<v Speaker 4>this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he was playing football at Princeton Yosi, Vash mostly

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<v Speaker 2>competed in indoor track in college, where instead of doing

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<v Speaker 2>the ten event the kathlon athletes compete in the seven

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<v Speaker 2>event heptathlon. Andre holds the IVY League record and was

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<v Speaker 2>a first team All American as a hepta athlete in

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<v Speaker 2>most NFL seasons, ten wins get you to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you look at the Bengals schedule for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the year, you can definitely see a path

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<v Speaker 2>for going ten to four the rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But at this point, nobody in that locker room is

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<v Speaker 2>looking ahead. Here's Ted Karris.

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<v Speaker 6>We can't start looking down to you know, the end

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<v Speaker 6>of the season. There's fourteen games left. We can't be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>we got to get ourselves in the dance right now.

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<v Speaker 6>We got to go beat Carolina, a team that just

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<v Speaker 6>came off a big win against the Raiders. So we

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<v Speaker 6>have a lot of things that you know that we

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<v Speaker 6>need to clean up, and guys are gonna be ready

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<v Speaker 6>to work. Here's what it is. Owing three is reality,

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<v Speaker 6>So let's be one and three.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll try to get there against the Carolina team that

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<v Speaker 2>finished with the league's worst record last year at two

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<v Speaker 2>and fifteen and got off to an abysmal start this year,

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<v Speaker 2>losing to the Saints and Chargers to open the season

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<v Speaker 2>by a combined score of seventy three to thirteen. But

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<v Speaker 2>first year head coach Dave canal Let's change quarterbacks last week,

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<v Speaker 2>pulling the number one pick in last year's draft Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>Young and inserting thirty six year old Andy Dalton. The

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<v Speaker 2>Red Rifle delivered, throwing three first half touchdown passes in

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty six to twenty two win over Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Zach Taylor, total pro.

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<v Speaker 7>Always be grateful to Andy. He led us through a

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<v Speaker 7>very difficult time, did it the right way. Was always

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<v Speaker 7>really good with me with giving me feedback and especially

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<v Speaker 7>as a first year head coach, and all the challenge

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<v Speaker 7>is that we faced that year. And I'm not surprised

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<v Speaker 7>that he keeps getting opportunities and makes the most of

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<v Speaker 7>them because of how he prepares and the talent that

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<v Speaker 7>he has and his experience in the league. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>he's seen everything he's got against everything. He's playing in a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of different situations, and so you're not surprised to

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<v Speaker 7>see him out there winning games and statistically doing the

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<v Speaker 7>things he's doing, and playing on time and making some

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<v Speaker 7>unbelievable throws in that last game to help them win.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals are favored by four and a half. Sunday's

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<v Speaker 2>game in Charlotte will be televised by Fox, and I

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to a former pro bowler who will be in

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<v Speaker 2>the booth. There is going to be a Moose sighting

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<v Speaker 2>in Carolina this Sunday, as former Dallas Cowboys and Syracuse

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<v Speaker 2>Orange full back Darryl Johnston will be in the booth

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<v Speaker 2>for Fox.

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<v Speaker 4>Moose have to ask you this question.

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<v Speaker 2>You were on a Dallas team that started zero and

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<v Speaker 2>two and won the Super Bowl, So share some wisdom

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<v Speaker 2>with us here in Cincinnati. What did you and your

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas teammates do to overcome that slow start.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it was a difference of circumstances than what Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 8>faced even at Owen two.

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<v Speaker 1>So emmittt had held.

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<v Speaker 8>Out that year, and after we started out oh and two,

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<v Speaker 8>they got him signed and he was back week three.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think we learned a hard lesson from the

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<v Speaker 8>business side of football. We have somebody key to your

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<v Speaker 8>offense and your team, make sure that he's he's involved

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<v Speaker 8>and ready for the season opener.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a little bit different circumstance.

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<v Speaker 8>I think the biggest thing for me watching Cincinnati has

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<v Speaker 8>just been the inconsistency. I think they all had to

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<v Speaker 8>be disappointed with the way they played at home against

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<v Speaker 8>New England. They never really seemed to match the emotion.

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<v Speaker 8>New England played extremely well, and so you go out

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<v Speaker 8>to Kansas City and you have the heartbreaking loss and

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<v Speaker 8>the past interference penalty, and you come back and we

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<v Speaker 8>had Washington in week one and Jayden Daniels did not

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<v Speaker 8>play at that level.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've watched Jaden week two, week three just continue

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<v Speaker 1>to get better.

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<v Speaker 8>And I had a position coach of mine at Syracuse,

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<v Speaker 8>Jim Hoffer, who was at LSU when Jayden was there,

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<v Speaker 8>and I talked to him a lot going into that opener,

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<v Speaker 8>and he was very confident Jaden was going to figure

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<v Speaker 8>it out and have a really good season. So I

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<v Speaker 8>think he's a lot further ahead of schedule than a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of people thought. But I think if you're Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 8>right now, you know that you've missed an opportunity because

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<v Speaker 8>you had New England, a team that you should have beaten.

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<v Speaker 8>Kansas City's a tough game Week two, and then you

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<v Speaker 8>still feel you should have won that one, and you

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<v Speaker 8>lose to a team with a new head coach and

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<v Speaker 8>a new rookie quarterback as their starter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that.

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<v Speaker 8>There has to be a lot different emotions for Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 8>than there was for us. For us, it was really

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<v Speaker 8>kind of em it's back We're going to be fine

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<v Speaker 8>right now, it's what is wrong with us? Why are

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<v Speaker 8>we not being able to play to the level that

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<v Speaker 8>we think we should be able to play at, and

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<v Speaker 8>why do we continue to let these games slip through

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<v Speaker 8>our fingers. So that's one that you got to really

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<v Speaker 8>work through and get beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>Ours was a little bit easier as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the Bengals offensively and defensively, what are a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things that stand out that they must do

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<v Speaker 2>better going forward?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think the big question is going to be,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the injury at right tackle this week.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that that's always a hard one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to work around.

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<v Speaker 8>So you're bringing it a young guy, you know, Amari's

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<v Speaker 8>Mims comes in to be able to step into that

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<v Speaker 8>game last week, you know against you know NFL edge rushers.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I think you hold your own, but you've

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<v Speaker 8>got to be smart when you're protecting your edges. So

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<v Speaker 8>I think from an offensive standpoint, what's what's really kind

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<v Speaker 8>of jumped out to me is the running game. You

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<v Speaker 8>know that that's that's one of the areas where I think,

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<v Speaker 8>you know that there's a little bit of a surprise

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<v Speaker 8>there with the duo that they have. You lose Joe

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<v Speaker 8>Mixon and you think it's going to be a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit of a declimb, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Jason Zach have done a really nice job.

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<v Speaker 8>I think we're going through Dallas in a similar situation

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<v Speaker 8>with Cincinnati's going through. You know, cdee Lamb has a

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<v Speaker 8>contract holdout, doesn't go to training camp. You can train

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<v Speaker 8>all you want away from the facility and become more dynamic,

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<v Speaker 8>become faster, but when you're not working football and you're

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<v Speaker 8>not working with your quarterback, it's a completely different thing.

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<v Speaker 8>And I don't care how long you've been together, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I've heard Joe and Jamar say, you know, we can

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<v Speaker 8>we can go back to our connections as Bengals, and

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<v Speaker 8>we can go all the way back to LSU. But

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<v Speaker 8>you need to be, you know, working that system, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>all the time, as much as you possibly can, as

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<v Speaker 8>many reps as you can get. And I think we're

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<v Speaker 8>seeing kind of that that lack of chemistry between Dak

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<v Speaker 8>and CD that we're seeing between Jamar and Joe. So

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<v Speaker 8>you know that'll come around. So you know, you can

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<v Speaker 8>put t heagins into that model as well. So there's

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<v Speaker 8>some things offensively in the passing game that they need

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<v Speaker 8>to get better at. Defensively, I was really surprised. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>a big fan of lou and Rumo. I think he

0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.520
<v Speaker 8>puts together really good plans. I think he's he varies

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<v Speaker 8>what he wants to do based on the opponent that

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<v Speaker 8>he's working against. So I was really surprised to see

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<v Speaker 8>Washington and Jaden put up that many points. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I think that that if there was something that I

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<v Speaker 8>was concerned about, you know, that would be the one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about.

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<v Speaker 8>Carolina, who had a really tough start, had to make

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<v Speaker 8>a really hard decision, and Andy Dalton comes in and

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<v Speaker 8>plays really well. And now when I watched the film,

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<v Speaker 8>it didn't match the excitement for me from the clips

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<v Speaker 8>that I was reading. You know, from Carolina, he played well,

0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.480
<v Speaker 8>he played better than Bryce Young has through the first

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<v Speaker 8>two games. But I expected to see something a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit more. I was actually probably more impressed with Cuba

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<v Speaker 8>Howard or Cuba Hubbard. So you know, I think that,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, that'll be one of the things against the

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<v Speaker 8>defense for for Cincinnati, they've struggled against the run the

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<v Speaker 8>entire season to start, and to me, that's that's the

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<v Speaker 8>one part that really kind of jumped out. Sure, there's

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<v Speaker 8>some really good numbers in the passing game, but I

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<v Speaker 8>think the offensive line for Carolina is underrated, and I

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<v Speaker 8>thought that they ran the ball really well.

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<v Speaker 4>We are visiting with Darryl Moose.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnston will be broadcasting the game for Fox this week.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals don't have a fullback on the roster, but

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<v Speaker 2>rookie tight end Eric All has been lining up a

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<v Speaker 2>decent amount of full back over the last couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks and he's not afraid to hit. Somebody has number

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<v Speaker 2>eighty three jumped out on tape to you, And what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about teams that are incorporating the full

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<v Speaker 2>back into their offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like we're getting ready to restart that cycle.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, with that position, it's kind of come and gone,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, over the last you know, twenty thirty years,

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<v Speaker 8>it's been very cyclical with the teams around the NFL

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<v Speaker 8>that utilize it.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, it's my position. I know the value of it.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that the defensive linemen in this league are

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<v Speaker 8>so explosive and so unique that the full back, the

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<v Speaker 8>h back, you know, whatever you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to call him.

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<v Speaker 8>He gives you that extra layer of protection when somebody

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<v Speaker 8>gets beat really quick and your running back doesn't have

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<v Speaker 8>to make a decision three yards behind the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, you can be absorbed by that fullback, that

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<v Speaker 8>h back. I still think you get favorable matchups when

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<v Speaker 8>you talk about personnel. There's there's so much you know,

0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.919
<v Speaker 8>eleven personnel out there on offenses this year that are

0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.240
<v Speaker 8>pulling out these different kinds of nickel defenses, and these

0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.239
<v Speaker 8>unique athletes that are now these hybrid guys that are

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<v Speaker 8>coming down that safety linebacker guy. I think that for me,

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<v Speaker 8>we always used the personnel group that the fullback was

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<v Speaker 8>in as a way to get our favorable matchups, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>keeping a bigger group on the field. So you wonder

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<v Speaker 8>if people are going to start to slide that way

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit. But it's been fun to watch around

0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.440
<v Speaker 8>the league, and Eric's doing a really nice job.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's as complete.

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<v Speaker 8>I think you heard Troy talk very very highly about him,

0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.800
<v Speaker 8>he and Joe both during the broadcast on Monday night.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm always excited when we have somebody come in

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<v Speaker 8>and I think for somebody like Eric in that position

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<v Speaker 8>where you can play traditional tight end. You can play

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<v Speaker 8>the tight end that goes out into the slot area

0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:10.920
<v Speaker 8>and brakes formation. You can be a guy that can

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<v Speaker 8>come off the wing go into the backfield, and the

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<v Speaker 8>transition from line of scrimmage to the backfield is very different.

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<v Speaker 8>It's very challenging when you block on the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 8>and this is an area that I really struggled at

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<v Speaker 8>when I tried to play, you know, a traditional backside

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<v Speaker 8>why or even a little bit on the wing off

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<v Speaker 8>the standard why is it's a lot of hand placement, leverage,

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<v Speaker 8>and technique where there's really more mentality and will.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're blocking from the backfield.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's a completely different skill set and a completely

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<v Speaker 8>different mental approach. So for somebody to be able to

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<v Speaker 8>do that effectively in both areas, in both positions, it

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<v Speaker 8>has always been extremely impressive to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So heading into the game, Carolina has given up the

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<v Speaker 2>most points of any team in the NFL. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>obviously have some injury issues on their defensive line. Does

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of feel like this might be a shootout

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<v Speaker 2>to you?

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<v Speaker 8>I was really surprised to see the number one they

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<v Speaker 8>put up against Vegas. You know, Vegas's defense you got

0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.359
<v Speaker 8>Antonio Peers as your head coach, you got Marvin Lewis

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<v Speaker 8>there as his mentor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's going to be a franchise.

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<v Speaker 8>It's going to be you know, kind of driven defensively

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<v Speaker 8>and and as a team. That's you're putting Andy Dalton,

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<v Speaker 8>and he's got a ton of experience. He played, he

0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.399
<v Speaker 8>played well the last time he got a chance to

0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.600
<v Speaker 8>start and put up some some big numbers in a loss.

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<v Speaker 8>But I didn't I didn't anticipate seeing that. I was

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<v Speaker 8>not sure how good the supporting cast was. I've kind

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<v Speaker 8>of watched this team build their offensive line over the

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<v Speaker 8>last three four years, and they've done a nice job

0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.720
<v Speaker 8>with that. So I really felt that that they were

0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.000
<v Speaker 8>in a position there where that that was a position

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<v Speaker 8>of strength for him, you know, across that starting five.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was I was really surprised.

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<v Speaker 8>We're doing our game, you know, Packers at Titans, and

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<v Speaker 8>that score came across UH and it was really surprising

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<v Speaker 8>to all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>So it very well could be.

0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.720
<v Speaker 8>It very well could be if if Cincinnati is is

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<v Speaker 8>still struggling a little bit with with what's going on

0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.359
<v Speaker 8>on the defensive side of the ball. You know, if

0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 8>if they still do don't have if Sheldon's not there,

0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 8>if BJ's not there, you know that that's a huge loss.

0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.439
<v Speaker 8>And we talked about the running game for Carolina, you know,

0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.159
<v Speaker 8>that could be a way to control things.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's hard to win games in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 8>It's hard to replicate an offensive performance like Carolina had

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<v Speaker 8>last week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Cincinnati team.

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<v Speaker 8>It's you can say whatever you want, You're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 8>gonna hear the guys talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's gonna be a one week you know. Focus.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, from from this point on, we can't we

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<v Speaker 1>can't have any more mistakes.

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<v Speaker 8>And I've always believed that you can't win a championship

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<v Speaker 8>in September, but you sure can lose one. And they're

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.960
<v Speaker 8>on the cusp of losing the opportunity to get into

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<v Speaker 8>the playoffs and compete for a championship as a team.

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<v Speaker 8>That was one of the ones talked about. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>when who's going to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh So this has to be extremely disappointing. And going

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<v Speaker 8>all the way back to how we started this. You know,

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.920
<v Speaker 8>when we started zero and two, even though we knew

0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 8>Emmett was back and and everything should be okay. We

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.919
<v Speaker 8>put a tremendous amount of pressure on ourselves for the

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<v Speaker 8>remainder of the season. We ended up going twelve and

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 8>two down the stretch. Our losses were losses where we

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:16.680
<v Speaker 8>didn't play well again. So it's really hard. You feel

0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.080
<v Speaker 8>like you've got to be perfect every single week moving forward,

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.119
<v Speaker 8>and then you have that one little blip and you

0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.600
<v Speaker 8>lose again and it's back to the drawing boards. So

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.040
<v Speaker 8>there's going to be a ton of pressure on this

0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.639
<v Speaker 8>Bengals team for the rest of the season. And I

0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.360
<v Speaker 8>like Joe's words when he talked about I don't want

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.120
<v Speaker 8>to hear anybody talking about playoffs right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is one week at a time, and.

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<v Speaker 8>He knows that there's fourteen more games, but we got

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.399
<v Speaker 8>a lot of work to do. It's not going to

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.520
<v Speaker 8>be easy getting enough wins in those fourteen to be

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<v Speaker 8>able to get an opportunity to get into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>They obviously need one this week, and we hope that

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<v Speaker 2>you are calling it for Fox, Darryl.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate your time. Thank you so much, my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan. Always good to visit with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was part of the Syracuse University broadcast crew and

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<v Speaker 2>move who's played there, and he helped the Orange go

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, two and one in his final two seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>for this week's Know the Faux segment. A Niche Shroff

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<v Speaker 2>is the radio voice of the Carolina Panthers and joined

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Lapham and me on The Bengals Game Plan Show

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<v Speaker 2>this week, where we started the conversation by asking about

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Dalton's remarkable performance last week.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, everyone saw that coming, right, Everybody saw that coming.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's wild. I think there was this national

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 5>narrative that was brewing and that was out there that,

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<v Speaker 5>to be honest, was tough to refute when you're coming

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<v Speaker 5>off two fifteen season that this was a team that

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<v Speaker 5>didn't have a lot of pieces and wasn't very talented.

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<v Speaker 5>And now the quarterback play was a result of the

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.360
<v Speaker 5>surrounding pieces, and then Andy Dalton comes in with those

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:18.360
<v Speaker 5>same pieces throws for three hundred plus three touchdowns. You know, Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>you talk to coaches quite often, and a lot of

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.439
<v Speaker 5>times you hear coach speak and things like it's just

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<v Speaker 5>another game in one game at a time, and whoever

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<v Speaker 5>wins the turnover battle sometimes lost in the coach speak.

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<v Speaker 5>There are morsels of truth, and one of them is

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 5>though when you hear guys, especially coaches, say they play

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<v Speaker 5>hard for this guy, that's code for saying the team

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<v Speaker 5>believes in them, and this team believed in Andy Dalton.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't know if we've seen the last of

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<v Speaker 5>Bryce Young. I hope not. He's a great kid. But

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<v Speaker 5>right now, in the here and now, the reality is

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<v Speaker 5>Andy Dalton's the best quarterback on the team. He gives

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<v Speaker 5>the Panthers the best chance to win. Everybody inside the

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<v Speaker 5>building and especially in the locker room, kind of knew that,

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 5>just with where Bryce Young was, and so he steps in,

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 5>and you know, all of a sudden, the receivers that

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 5>supposedly couldn't get open were open. The much in the

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 5>lined offensive line has actually been according to all the

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<v Speaker 5>metrics number one in the league through three weeks in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of pass blocking. The running backs, which really alleged

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 5>late didn't support the quarterback and had no balance to

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 5>the offense. Well, Tuba Hubbard goes for one hundred plus

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 5>yards also at five catches fifty plus yards receiving, So

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.920
<v Speaker 5>everything seemed to go right. And then the defense didn't

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 5>have to play with the mindset of, hey, if you

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 5>give up ten thirteen points, you're probably not going to

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 5>win the game. And when you add all of that on,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been calling it Dalton Omis, there's a trickle down

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 5>effect that comes from putting a quarterback in who can

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<v Speaker 5>be a spark plug. And we saw that, and I.

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<v Speaker 9>Know you got to do what you have to do

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 9>to win football games. Right now, the coach's careers and

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<v Speaker 9>everybody's careers are on the line. Bryce young high draft pick,

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 9>obviously the organization put a lot in a line with him.

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<v Speaker 9>They bring in a head coach that can develop young quarterbacks, canals.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, he's elected a captain. Like you said, he's

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<v Speaker 9>a great kid. He's elected a team captain, one of

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<v Speaker 9>the four team captains, and then another one's picked on

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<v Speaker 9>a weekly basis, So what is that like for him?

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<v Speaker 9>What is that like for the football team? Because he's

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<v Speaker 9>obviously still a captain. They didn't take the seat off

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<v Speaker 9>his chest, did they? Or did they?

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people, and I would say most people

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<v Speaker 5>within the building and certainly pretty much the entire locker room,

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 5>they love Bryce. The reality again was he just wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>playing well. And is it a small sample size? Absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>eighteen games, But go back to the tail end of

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<v Speaker 5>last year. You know, Bryce hadn't thrown a touchdown, passed

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<v Speaker 5>in something like nine of his last ten or ten

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<v Speaker 5>of his last to left games. The previous two games

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<v Speaker 5>before this season started, the Panthers were shut out. They

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 5>had one touchdown Week one against the Saints, and garbage time,

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 5>they managed one Measley field goal Week two against the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 5>He just wasn't doing the things required within the offense.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you go and turn on the tape and

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<v Speaker 5>you say, wait a minute, the protection is there. Wait

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<v Speaker 5>a minute, there are guys who are open downfield. They're

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 5>not getting the ball. I think most everybody gave Bryce

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<v Speaker 5>a ton of grace with the way last year unfolded.

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 5>Coaching changes, injuries to the offensive line, they did have

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<v Speaker 5>issues at the skill positions. He's still a young quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think they're out on him completely, but maybe

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<v Speaker 5>this can be a hard reset and whatever version of

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 5>Bryce that resurfaces, hopefully with Carolina. If not, if it's

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 5>with somebody else, you hope he can tap into the potential.

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<v Speaker 5>Not just the Panthers, but most of the teams in

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 5>the league saw in him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the voice of the Panthers and E. Shrop is

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 2>our guest. Let's talk about the defense a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been getting better every week, but through three weeks

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 2>has given up an average of just under thirty two

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>points a game, which is last in the NFL. Where

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>have they struggled on the defensive end.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's been stopping the run. And when your best

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 5>player on the entire football team, Derek Brown, who set

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 5>the NFL record for tackles by a d lineman last year,

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 5>When he gives out Week one and he's done to

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<v Speaker 5>the season due to a knee injury and wasn't really

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 5>healthy that first week, that just decimates you. There's no

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 5>one guy to step in and who plays Derek Brown

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 5>number ninety five. Surprisingly, they actually held up okay against

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 5>the rung. The Raiders we know can't run the football,

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 5>but they were without Brown, they were without Shy Tutal

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 5>last week, another starting d lineman. They've had trouble stopping

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 5>the run. They're pretty solid on the back end. J C. Horn,

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 5>when healthy, is a really good corner. Mike Jackson stepped

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 5>up and played real well. They got him from Seattle

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 5>after the final roster cuts. They've got three talented safeties

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 5>you guys are familiar with Mick Scott. The linebackers has

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 5>been pretty good. But the weakness right now stopping the run,

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 5>and there just hasn't really been much of a pass rush.

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 5>You do have Jadevion Clowney dj Wanham began the season

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<v Speaker 5>on ir Finding pressure and finding a sustainable pass rush

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 5>without bringing a blitz just really has not been there.

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 5>So those have been the two things that's been stopping

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<v Speaker 5>the run and finding a pass rush.

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<v Speaker 9>Looking at at the numbers red zone defensively, opponents in

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<v Speaker 9>the red zone nine times and scored eight touchdowns having

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 9>kicked the field goal. There was no score on one

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 9>of the possessions, but eighty eight touchdown percentage in the

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 9>red zone. That has to be painful.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And again, that goes back to not being able

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 5>to stop the run. You get down there and you

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 5>get close, and if teams know they can move the

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 5>chains and make traction using the ground game, they're gonna

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 5>do it, especially when the field condenses and the boundary

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 5>of the end zone serfs as an extra defender. So

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 5>they got to figure out some way to stop the run.

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 5>But it's hard right now. You got Ashan Robinson, who's

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<v Speaker 5>a veteran the Giants last year had success with the

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 5>Rams played with Aaron Donald. You know, the rest of

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 5>the guys are relatively unproven right now. Without Brown, the

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 5>Hocush Tuttle can come back this week. That remains to

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 5>be seen. But yeah, they've got they've got to figure

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 5>out a way. Yeah, they got to figure out a

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 5>way to stop the run. Teams get close and they've

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 5>been able to run the ball at will.

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Our guest is an e. Shrot, the boy said the

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers. Let me ask you about your first year

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 2>head coach Dave Canalis. I didn't know much about him

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>before Carolina hired him the offensive coordinator for Tampa Bay

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>last year and time with Seattle before that. I watched

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 2>his news conference today, young, good looking, articulate guy. Tell

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>us a little bit about Dave Canalis as you've gotten

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>to work with him this year.

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<v Speaker 5>Extremely energetic, extremely optimistic. He and general manager Dan Morgan

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 5>go way back to their Seattle days. Both were brought on.

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 5>Morgan was his scout. Canalis was working as an analyst

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 5>and then kind of worked his way up quarterbacks coach,

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 5>wide receivers coach. Eventually left to go to Tampa to

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 5>be the OC. But he's been described by Baker Macfield

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 5>as an optimist, fully, and you see a lot of that.

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 5>This guy when it's raining outside, walks in smile on

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 5>his face, Hey, what a beautiful day. And you know,

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 5>in the beginning, I'll be honest, right, there's a little

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 5>bit of skepticism how much of this is authentic and

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 5>how much of this is real? But I've been around

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 5>him now long enough to know that that other side

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 5>I really haven't seen, that's still the only side. So

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 5>it's either an incredible acting job and he can leave

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 5>the light switch on the entire time, or that's just

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 5>his personality. And I'm at the point where I believe

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 5>that's just his personality. He's an optimist by nature. But again,

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.959
<v Speaker 5>he's also shown that he's got the ability to make

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 5>tough decisions. That decision to bench Bryce Young after two weeks.

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 5>When you watch the film, you know that was essentially

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 5>a bet on himself and his process and his scheme.

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 5>He's the play caller and he's thinking, Okay, right now,

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.479
<v Speaker 5>this is what's holding us back. It's quarterback play. I

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 5>feel and I have conviction that if we bring in

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 5>Andy Dalton it's going to make a difference. And he

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 5>was absolutely right. Boy was he ever, no question about it.

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you about your kicking game, specifically the

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 5>people that put the foot to the to the ball.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 5>You've got an outstanding punter, outstanding placekicker as well, amongst

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 5>the best in the national foot You're gonna feel pretty

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 5>good about that, don't they. Yeah, we'd like to see

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 5>less of Johnny Hecker, who is an autude punter. Most

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 5>of our fans probably would tell you we saw way

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 5>too much Johnny Hecker last year. So we saw way

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 5>too much Johnny Hecker the first two weeks, not as

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 5>much against the Raiders. So as good as he is,

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 5>and he was on the all decade scene for the

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 5>previous decades, we would prefer to see less of Johnny

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 5>Eddie Tannio has been rock solid. He doesn't have the

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 5>biggest leg. He doesn't have the leg like Evan McPherson

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 5>does for the Bengals. But you know, anything inside fifty two,

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 5>certainly inside fifty you feel pretty comfortable with him.

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 4>No offense.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 2>We just want to see the punter once, yeah, right,

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>at least Yeah, after a Monday Nights game against Wig.

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 9>I don't want to see ours though, just yeah, that's true.

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 5>Year, that was fine, That was fine, Ryan Rico think

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 5>I saw a single There was not a single punch

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 5>in that game, right.

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<v Speaker 2>There was correct, non first time since nineteen forty no punts,

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 2>no turnovers. What it's worth If the Panthers Johnny Hecker

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>has punted sixteen times this year, Ryan Rico of the

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Bengals is only punted six times. I think that eight

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 2>to three ratio would be just fine. On Sunday, here's

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