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Speaker 2: The One Thing at a Time addition, as the Bengals

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Speaker 2: you know that andre Yosi vash is tied for the

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Speaker 2: NFL lead and touchdown catches. We'll discuss that and whether

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Speaker 2: its greatest philanthropists last week when my friend Mike Valentine

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Speaker 2: and he and his wife Peg have been incredibly generous

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Speaker 2: gift to the Cincinnati Ballet. He was a brilliant and

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Speaker 2: kind man who made Cincinnati a better place. Now let's

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Speaker 2: get to football. It's no surprise that Justin Jefferson has

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Speaker 2: tied for the league lead in touchdown catches with three,

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Speaker 2: but fans around the country probably didn't expect one of

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Speaker 2: the guys that shares the top spot to be andre

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Speaker 2: Yosi Vash. He's become one of the bengals top red

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Speaker 2: zone targets and I discussed it with a former Princeton

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Speaker 2: track star this week. Andre you are tied for the

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Speaker 2: had two in that game. So that's five touchdown catches

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Speaker 2: in your last four games. Has this become ho hum?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess those statistics. You can't really fight those statistics.

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Speaker 3: I would say, you know, me and Joe just have

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty lucky to pretty fortunate.

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Speaker 2: For that to be my stats. They've all come in

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Speaker 2: the red zone. Do you think your size and your

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Speaker 1: Definitely?

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Speaker 3: I think you know, my build, my size, my strength

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Speaker 3: That throughout the pilot, I broke them off with a

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Speaker 2: Do you still save the touchdown balls at this point?

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Speaker 2: Visiting with andre Yosi vash on Monday night, it was

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Speaker 2: He scored ten points in week one, twenty five in

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Speaker 2: So I have a buddy that when the Bengals lose

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Speaker 3: He's not too far off what I would do.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna pass that along.

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Speaker 2: What's the message this week among the players and coaches

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Speaker 3: You know, just keep the intensity high, hold people accountable,

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Speaker 2: Carolina really struggled in the first two weeks, then they

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Speaker 2: Did that eliminate any possibility of taking them lightly?

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Speaker 2: That happens for the rest of us, not for the

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about something, Andre. You were fined for shooting

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Speaker 3: I don't know I've seen worse.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that one really confused me.

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Speaker 2: Final question for andre Yosibosh. At the Summer Olympics in Paris,

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Speaker 2: Have you competed against any of them, and had you

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Speaker 3: So I think that if I'm trained for the whole year,

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Speaker 3: I mean, this guys would have been the limit.

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Speaker 4: For me there.

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Speaker 3: But I also think the sky's a limit for me here.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think any of those guys would

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Speaker 4: So yeah, all right, appreciate your time. Best of luck

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Speaker 3: Yep, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Because he was playing football at Princeton Yosi, Vash mostly

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Speaker 2: competed in indoor track in college, where instead of doing

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Speaker 2: event heptathlon. Andre holds the IVY League record and was

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Speaker 2: most NFL seasons, ten wins get you to the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and if you look at the Bengals schedule for the

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Speaker 2: rest of the year, you can definitely see a path

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Speaker 2: But at this point, nobody in that locker room is

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Speaker 6: We can't start looking down to you know, the end

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Speaker 6: of the season. There's fourteen games left. We can't be like, oh,

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Speaker 6: We got to go beat Carolina, a team that just

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Speaker 6: need to clean up, and guys are gonna be ready

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Speaker 6: to work. Here's what it is. Owing three is reality,

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Speaker 6: So let's be one and three.

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Speaker 2: They'll try to get there against the Carolina team that

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Speaker 2: finished with the league's worst record last year at two

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Speaker 2: and fifteen and got off to an abysmal start this year,

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Speaker 2: first year head coach Dave canal Let's change quarterbacks last week,

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Speaker 2: pulling the number one pick in last year's draft Bryce

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Speaker 2: Young and inserting thirty six year old Andy Dalton. The

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Speaker 2: Red Rifle delivered, throwing three first half touchdown passes in

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Speaker 2: a thirty six to twenty two win over Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Here's Zach Taylor, total pro.

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Speaker 7: Always be grateful to Andy. He led us through a

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Speaker 7: very difficult time, did it the right way. Was always

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Speaker 7: really good with me with giving me feedback and especially

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Speaker 7: as a first year head coach, and all the challenge

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Speaker 7: is that we faced that year. And I'm not surprised

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Speaker 7: that he keeps getting opportunities and makes the most of

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Speaker 7: them because of how he prepares and the talent that

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Speaker 7: he's seen everything he's got against everything. He's playing in a

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Speaker 2: You were on a Dallas team that started zero and

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Speaker 8: Well, it was a difference of circumstances than what Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: We are visiting with Darryl Moose.

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Speaker 2: Johnston will be broadcasting the game for Fox this week.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals don't have a fullback on the roster, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like we're getting ready to restart that cycle.

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Speaker 8: the playoffs and compete for a championship as a team.

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Speaker 8: That was one of the ones talked about. You know,

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Speaker 8: when who's going to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 8: Uh So this has to be extremely disappointing. And going

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Speaker 8: all the way back to how we started this. You know,

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Speaker 8: when we started zero and two, even though we knew

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Speaker 8: Emmett was back and and everything should be okay. We

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Speaker 8: put a tremendous amount of pressure on ourselves for the

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Speaker 8: remainder of the season. We ended up going twelve and

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Speaker 8: two down the stretch. Our losses were losses where we

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Speaker 8: didn't play well again. So it's really hard. You feel

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Speaker 8: like you've got to be perfect every single week moving forward,

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Speaker 8: and then you have that one little blip and you

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Speaker 8: lose again and it's back to the drawing boards. So

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Speaker 8: there's going to be a ton of pressure on this

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Speaker 8: Bengals team for the rest of the season. And I

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Speaker 8: like Joe's words when he talked about I don't want

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Speaker 8: to hear anybody talking about playoffs right now.

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Speaker 1: This is this is one week at a time, and.

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Speaker 8: He knows that there's fourteen more games, but we got

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Speaker 8: a lot of work to do. It's not going to

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Speaker 8: be easy getting enough wins in those fourteen to be

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Speaker 8: able to get an opportunity to get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They obviously need one this week, and we hope that

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Speaker 2: you are calling it for Fox, Darryl.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate your time. Thank you so much, my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Dan. Always good to visit with you.

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Speaker 2: I was part of the Syracuse University broadcast crew and

468
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Speaker 2: move who's played there, and he helped the Orange go

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Speaker 2: twenty one, two and one in his final two seasons.

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Speaker 2: for this week's Know the Faux segment. A Niche Shroff

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Speaker 2: is the radio voice of the Carolina Panthers and joined

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Speaker 2: Dave Lapham and me on The Bengals Game Plan Show

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Speaker 2: this week, where we started the conversation by asking about

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Speaker 2: Andy Dalton's remarkable performance last week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone saw that coming, right, Everybody saw that coming.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's wild. I think there was this national

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Speaker 5: narrative that was brewing and that was out there that,

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Speaker 5: to be honest, was tough to refute when you're coming

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Speaker 5: off two fifteen season that this was a team that

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Speaker 5: didn't have a lot of pieces and wasn't very talented.

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Speaker 5: And now the quarterback play was a result of the

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Speaker 5: surrounding pieces, and then Andy Dalton comes in with those

489
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Speaker 5: same pieces throws for three hundred plus three touchdowns. You know, Dan,

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Speaker 5: you talk to coaches quite often, and a lot of

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Speaker 5: times you hear coach speak and things like it's just

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Speaker 5: another game in one game at a time, and whoever

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Speaker 5: wins the turnover battle sometimes lost in the coach speak.

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Speaker 5: There are morsels of truth, and one of them is

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Speaker 5: though when you hear guys, especially coaches, say they play

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Speaker 5: hard for this guy, that's code for saying the team

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Speaker 5: believes in them, and this team believed in Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if we've seen the last of

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Speaker 5: Bryce Young. I hope not. He's a great kid. But

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Speaker 5: right now, in the here and now, the reality is

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Speaker 5: Andy Dalton's the best quarterback on the team. He gives

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Speaker 5: the Panthers the best chance to win. Everybody inside the

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Speaker 5: building and especially in the locker room, kind of knew that,

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Speaker 5: just with where Bryce Young was, and so he steps in,

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Speaker 5: and you know, all of a sudden, the receivers that

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Speaker 5: supposedly couldn't get open were open. The much in the

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Speaker 5: lined offensive line has actually been according to all the

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Speaker 5: metrics number one in the league through three weeks in

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Speaker 5: terms of pass blocking. The running backs, which really alleged

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Speaker 5: late didn't support the quarterback and had no balance to

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Speaker 5: the offense. Well, Tuba Hubbard goes for one hundred plus

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Speaker 5: yards also at five catches fifty plus yards receiving, So

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Speaker 5: everything seemed to go right. And then the defense didn't

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Speaker 5: have to play with the mindset of, hey, if you

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Speaker 5: give up ten thirteen points, you're probably not going to

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Speaker 5: win the game. And when you add all of that on,

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Speaker 5: I've been calling it Dalton Omis, there's a trickle down

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Speaker 5: effect that comes from putting a quarterback in who can

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Speaker 5: be a spark plug. And we saw that, and I.

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Speaker 9: Know you got to do what you have to do

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Speaker 9: to win football games. Right now, the coach's careers and

522
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Speaker 9: everybody's careers are on the line. Bryce young high draft pick,

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Speaker 9: obviously the organization put a lot in a line with him.

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Speaker 9: They bring in a head coach that can develop young quarterbacks, canals.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he's elected a captain. Like you said, he's

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Speaker 9: a great kid. He's elected a team captain, one of

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Speaker 9: the four team captains, and then another one's picked on

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Speaker 9: a weekly basis, So what is that like for him?

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Speaker 9: What is that like for the football team? Because he's

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Speaker 9: obviously still a captain. They didn't take the seat off

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Speaker 9: his chest, did they? Or did they?

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Speaker 5: A lot of people, and I would say most people

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Speaker 5: within the building and certainly pretty much the entire locker room,

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Speaker 5: they love Bryce. The reality again was he just wasn't

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Speaker 5: playing well. And is it a small sample size? Absolutely

536
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Speaker 5: eighteen games, But go back to the tail end of

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Speaker 5: last year. You know, Bryce hadn't thrown a touchdown, passed

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Speaker 5: in something like nine of his last ten or ten

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Speaker 5: of his last to left games. The previous two games

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Speaker 5: before this season started, the Panthers were shut out. They

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Speaker 5: had one touchdown Week one against the Saints, and garbage time,

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Speaker 5: they managed one Measley field goal Week two against the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: He just wasn't doing the things required within the offense.

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Speaker 5: And then you go and turn on the tape and

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Speaker 5: you say, wait a minute, the protection is there. Wait

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Speaker 5: a minute, there are guys who are open downfield. They're

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Speaker 5: not getting the ball. I think most everybody gave Bryce

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Speaker 5: a ton of grace with the way last year unfolded.

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Speaker 5: Coaching changes, injuries to the offensive line, they did have

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Speaker 5: issues at the skill positions. He's still a young quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're out on him completely, but maybe

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Speaker 5: this can be a hard reset and whatever version of

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Speaker 5: Bryce that resurfaces, hopefully with Carolina. If not, if it's

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Speaker 5: with somebody else, you hope he can tap into the potential.

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Speaker 5: Not just the Panthers, but most of the teams in

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Speaker 5: the league saw in him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the voice of the Panthers and E. Shrop is

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Speaker 2: our guest. Let's talk about the defense a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's been getting better every week, but through three weeks

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Speaker 2: has given up an average of just under thirty two

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Speaker 2: points a game, which is last in the NFL. Where

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Speaker 2: have they struggled on the defensive end.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's been stopping the run. And when your best

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Speaker 5: player on the entire football team, Derek Brown, who set

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Speaker 5: the NFL record for tackles by a d lineman last year,

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Speaker 5: When he gives out Week one and he's done to

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Speaker 5: the season due to a knee injury and wasn't really

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Speaker 5: healthy that first week, that just decimates you. There's no

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Speaker 5: one guy to step in and who plays Derek Brown

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Speaker 5: number ninety five. Surprisingly, they actually held up okay against

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Speaker 5: the rung. The Raiders we know can't run the football,

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Speaker 5: but they were without Brown, they were without Shy Tutal

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Speaker 5: last week, another starting d lineman. They've had trouble stopping

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Speaker 5: the run. They're pretty solid on the back end. J C. Horn,

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Speaker 5: when healthy, is a really good corner. Mike Jackson stepped

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Speaker 5: up and played real well. They got him from Seattle

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Speaker 5: after the final roster cuts. They've got three talented safeties

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Speaker 5: you guys are familiar with Mick Scott. The linebackers has

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Speaker 5: been pretty good. But the weakness right now stopping the run,

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Speaker 5: and there just hasn't really been much of a pass rush.

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Speaker 5: You do have Jadevion Clowney dj Wanham began the season

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Speaker 5: on ir Finding pressure and finding a sustainable pass rush

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Speaker 5: without bringing a blitz just really has not been there.

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Speaker 5: So those have been the two things that's been stopping

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Speaker 5: the run and finding a pass rush.

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Speaker 9: Looking at at the numbers red zone defensively, opponents in

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Speaker 9: the red zone nine times and scored eight touchdowns having

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Speaker 9: kicked the field goal. There was no score on one

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Speaker 9: of the possessions, but eighty eight touchdown percentage in the

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Speaker 9: red zone. That has to be painful.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And again, that goes back to not being able

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Speaker 5: to stop the run. You get down there and you

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Speaker 5: get close, and if teams know they can move the

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Speaker 5: chains and make traction using the ground game, they're gonna

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Speaker 5: do it, especially when the field condenses and the boundary

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Speaker 5: of the end zone serfs as an extra defender. So

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Speaker 5: they got to figure out some way to stop the run.

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Speaker 5: But it's hard right now. You got Ashan Robinson, who's

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Speaker 5: a veteran the Giants last year had success with the

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Speaker 5: Rams played with Aaron Donald. You know, the rest of

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Speaker 5: the guys are relatively unproven right now. Without Brown, the

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Speaker 5: Hocush Tuttle can come back this week. That remains to

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Speaker 5: be seen. But yeah, they've got they've got to figure

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Speaker 5: out a way. Yeah, they got to figure out a

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Speaker 5: way to stop the run. Teams get close and they've

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Speaker 5: been able to run the ball at will.

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Speaker 2: Our guest is an e. Shrot, the boy said the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. Let me ask you about your first year

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Speaker 2: head coach Dave Canalis. I didn't know much about him

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Speaker 2: before Carolina hired him the offensive coordinator for Tampa Bay

611
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Speaker 2: last year and time with Seattle before that. I watched

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Speaker 2: his news conference today, young, good looking, articulate guy. Tell

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Speaker 2: us a little bit about Dave Canalis as you've gotten

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Speaker 2: to work with him this year.

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Speaker 5: Extremely energetic, extremely optimistic. He and general manager Dan Morgan

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Speaker 5: go way back to their Seattle days. Both were brought on.

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Speaker 5: Morgan was his scout. Canalis was working as an analyst

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Speaker 5: and then kind of worked his way up quarterbacks coach,

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Speaker 5: wide receivers coach. Eventually left to go to Tampa to

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Speaker 5: be the OC. But he's been described by Baker Macfield

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Speaker 5: as an optimist, fully, and you see a lot of that.

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Speaker 5: This guy when it's raining outside, walks in smile on

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Speaker 5: his face, Hey, what a beautiful day. And you know,

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Speaker 5: in the beginning, I'll be honest, right, there's a little

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Speaker 5: bit of skepticism how much of this is authentic and

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Speaker 5: how much of this is real? But I've been around

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Speaker 5: him now long enough to know that that other side

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Speaker 5: I really haven't seen, that's still the only side. So

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Speaker 5: it's either an incredible acting job and he can leave

630
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Speaker 5: the light switch on the entire time, or that's just

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Speaker 5: his personality. And I'm at the point where I believe

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Speaker 5: that's just his personality. He's an optimist by nature. But again,

633
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Speaker 5: he's also shown that he's got the ability to make

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Speaker 5: tough decisions. That decision to bench Bryce Young after two weeks.

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Speaker 5: When you watch the film, you know that was essentially

636
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Speaker 5: a bet on himself and his process and his scheme.

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Speaker 5: He's the play caller and he's thinking, Okay, right now,

638
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Speaker 5: this is what's holding us back. It's quarterback play. I

639
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Speaker 5: feel and I have conviction that if we bring in

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Speaker 5: Andy Dalton it's going to make a difference. And he

641
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Speaker 5: was absolutely right. Boy was he ever, no question about it.

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you about your kicking game, specifically the

643
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Speaker 5: people that put the foot to the to the ball.

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Speaker 5: You've got an outstanding punter, outstanding placekicker as well, amongst

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Speaker 5: the best in the national foot You're gonna feel pretty

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Speaker 5: good about that, don't they. Yeah, we'd like to see

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Speaker 5: less of Johnny Hecker, who is an autude punter. Most

648
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Speaker 5: of our fans probably would tell you we saw way

649
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Speaker 5: too much Johnny Hecker last year. So we saw way

650
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Speaker 5: too much Johnny Hecker the first two weeks, not as

651
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Speaker 5: much against the Raiders. So as good as he is,

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Speaker 5: and he was on the all decade scene for the

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Speaker 5: previous decades, we would prefer to see less of Johnny

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Speaker 5: Eddie Tannio has been rock solid. He doesn't have the

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Speaker 5: biggest leg. He doesn't have the leg like Evan McPherson

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Speaker 5: does for the Bengals. But you know, anything inside fifty two,

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Speaker 5: certainly inside fifty you feel pretty comfortable with him.

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Speaker 4: No offense.

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Speaker 2: We just want to see the punter once, yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: at least Yeah, after a Monday Nights game against Wig.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to see ours though, just yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 5: Year, that was fine, That was fine, Ryan Rico think

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Speaker 5: I saw a single There was not a single punch

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Speaker 2: There was correct, non first time since nineteen forty no punts,

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Speaker 2: no turnovers. What it's worth If the Panthers Johnny Hecker

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Speaker 2: has punted sixteen times this year, Ryan Rico of the

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Speaker 2: Bengals is only punted six times. I think that eight

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Speaker 2: to three ratio would be just fine. On Sunday, here's

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