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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: If you're me, it's you know it's another another day

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Speaker 2: of office, didn't you?

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Speaker 3: Stands on the goal line and waits for the shotgun snap.

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Speaker 3: He stands three yards deep in the end zone under

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Speaker 3: pressure from Miles ball out fight four to the enzote.

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Speaker 3: Miles got home again. Who's got it?

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Speaker 2: Browns too? Touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Sanchez kneels at midfield for this. Gay's gonna try it

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Speaker 3: from sixty. It's blocked, ball loose fight Fortentzel Ward picks

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Speaker 3: it up ward running across the Indianapolis thirty.

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Speaker 2: That was Miles Carrott that blocked that field goal.

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Speaker 4: And earlier this week bumba bettro and after he had

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Speaker 4: his presser, was in our booth and I said, man,

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Speaker 4: Miles Carrott, how about that?

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Speaker 2: He said, we're gonna lock a kick this week? He

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Speaker 2: called it.

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Speaker 4: Miles goes in, blocks it, Denzel scoops it, and the

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Speaker 4: Browns in business.

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 5: I've actually done it a couple a couple of times

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Speaker 5: throughout the years, and every now and then just to

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Speaker 5: keep our offense or keep our special teams.

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Speaker 6: Honest, no, just for fun.

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Speaker 7: And I think Bubbo when he went to.

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Speaker 2: The archives and saw it, he was like, yeah, we gotta,

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Speaker 2: we gotta bring this out.

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Speaker 3: Browns from the one. This is the game out of

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Speaker 3: the eye. They need the touchdown, Hunt and Harris Walker

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Speaker 3: gives to Kareem Hunt, pushing, pushing, touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt got it across the gold line. Minshew to

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Speaker 2: throw steps up, Minshew lost the football.

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Speaker 8: It's down of the ground.

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Speaker 2: Obo's got it football roll lend on the fielders, a

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Speaker 2: tuffle over cover park.

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Speaker 3: Leveland and the Browns will beat the Colts thirty nine

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Speaker 3: thirty eight. Obo makes snow Angels in Indianapolis, and the

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Speaker 3: Browns will go to four and two.

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Speaker 1: He or are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Segura,

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Speaker 1: Oh baby.

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Speaker 9: Let's do it live on a victory Monday edition of

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Speaker 9: Cleveland Brown's Daily Merely Bo the Great z Thrilling Affair,

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Speaker 9: Joe joyous.

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Speaker 2: The Cardiac kids are back. Baby.

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Speaker 6: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: And I'm told the man who scored the game winning

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Speaker 9: touchdown is joining us. Now on the Twisted Tea hotline,

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Speaker 9: Kareem Hunt, Kareem, can you take us through those closing minutes,

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Speaker 9: those plays down at the goal line before you eventually

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Speaker 9: got in.

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Speaker 10: Uh you know it was I was, I was expecting

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Speaker 10: to maybe score on one of those you know plays

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Speaker 10: Kevin called earlier, but uh, you know, I was waiting

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Speaker 10: for my turn. I was, I was waiting to hear

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Speaker 10: my number called. And you know, once it was called,

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Speaker 10: I was just you know, so excited. I told the

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Speaker 10: we all you know, fired up and said, hey, this

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Speaker 10: is this is winner, go home right here. So uh,

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Speaker 10: we put everything on the line and just you know,

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Speaker 10: those guys got good push and I just got my

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Speaker 10: past down and you know, drove, I was gonna find

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Speaker 2: When you are you get the play call, you know

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Speaker 2: you're getting the ball. You know that Cleveland, which means

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Speaker 2: so much to the entire city right now, is going

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Speaker 2: to rest on you know, obviously it's not one person's

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Speaker 2: eleven on eleven, but your ability to get that ball

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Speaker 2: into the end zone. How do you kind of stay

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Speaker 2: calm focused, Like what goes through your mind before that

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Speaker 2: he gave you the ball and you got into the

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Speaker 10: I mean, you know, it goes it goes through my

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Speaker 10: head that you know, I'm you know, I got to

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Speaker 10: do this for the city for sure, you know, especially

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Speaker 10: from here. I was just like, all right, man, it's

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Speaker 10: you know, fourth down, all or nothing. And I was

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Speaker 10: so I wasn't gonna be denied. Man. In my head,

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Speaker 10: I was just like, yes, it's time to put them away.

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Speaker 10: So I got the ball, saw Wyatt pull around and

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Speaker 10: let's go, got behind my paths and just drove and

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Speaker 2: Did you see the contact that was coming from the side,

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Speaker 2: because really straight away you were good. Why it ended

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Speaker 2: just creamed somebody and then he got hit from the

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Speaker 2: hit coming? And then once you felt it, did you

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Speaker 2: know you got into the end zone? Were you sure

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Speaker 2: that you had gotten in?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: So I knew I had to run through a couple

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Speaker 10: for sure, there was no doubt in my mind.

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Speaker 11: I looked it.

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Speaker 10: But you know, the official on the side, he saw

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Speaker 10: me cross my whole, the ball, my elbow and everything's

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Speaker 10: a crawling. I just hope he sees it so he

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Speaker 10: saw that. He gave it a touchdown right away. But

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Speaker 10: I knew I got into the end zone even if

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Speaker 10: they reviewed it.

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Speaker 2: Let everybody know too that not only was this a

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Speaker 2: needed play, but remember Nick Chubb is gone, Jerome Ford

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Speaker 2: went down. You came out and battled. It was it

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Speaker 2: go in this game with that that thigh injury. You

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Speaker 2: went out there and did. As Kevin Sava said on

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Speaker 2: that mean to you and what did that mean to

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Speaker 2: your your teammates to see you go battle and compete

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Speaker 2: the way that you did.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I told him before the game, Look, I said,

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna go give it everything I got for y'all boys,

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Speaker 10: because you know, that's the competitor. Competitor I am, and

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Speaker 10: you're right. It was tough.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 10: I didn't know if I was gone for sure player

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Speaker 10: not till literally Sunday morning. I was just seeing how

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Speaker 10: I will probably tell you what's up in there myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: And so I was just able to, you know, I said,

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Speaker 10: the time I got to you know, really, you know,

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Speaker 10: dig deep, dig very deep, and get everything out of

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Speaker 9: Ans On talking to Kareem Hunt, who scored not one

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Speaker 9: but two touchdowns of the win yesterday in India, including

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Speaker 9: the game winning touchdown which we're talking about right now. Kareem,

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Speaker 9: you know, you think about this tenure of years and

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Speaker 9: it's two separate ones now with the Browns, but this

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Speaker 9: return of yours and filling in for Nick who went

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Speaker 9: down early in the season. You have always been one

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Speaker 9: of the most beloved players on this team by your teammates,

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Speaker 9: but it's from this fan base as well. It is

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Speaker 9: incredible the response that you get at Cleveland Browns Stadium

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Speaker 9: and from a Browns nation, did you see this coming?

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Speaker 9: And what does it feel like from your perspective a

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Speaker 10: Man, It's amazing, especially being from here. You know, I've

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Speaker 10: I got a lot of family, close friends. You know,

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Speaker 10: I've been here my whole life, played middle school tee wee,

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Speaker 10: even played college football at you know, Toledo in Ohio,

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Speaker 10: just crazy how everything worked out, especially not knowing you know,

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Speaker 10: probably a month ago, he said out coming back to Cleveland,

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Speaker 10: I would be like, you might be crazy before Nick

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Speaker 10: got before Nick actually got injured. But you know, I

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Speaker 10: hate to see, you know, a brother like that goes down,

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Speaker 10: and God must have had a plan for me to

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Speaker 10: come back and you know, help you know, finish what

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Speaker 10: we started. You know, I've been here five this my

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Speaker 10: It's just you know, a great feeling to be able

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Speaker 10: to come and play for your hometown and you know, no,

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Speaker 10: you know, everybody's behind you.

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Speaker 2: Kareem, did you get a chance that. Have you talked

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Speaker 2: see himt the facility on Friday, which was awesome. But

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Speaker 2: did he did he get to talk with him after

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I got to talk to him a little

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Speaker 2: He had to be fired up for you.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, he was happy. Man, he very happy. But

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Speaker 10: he was like man, y'all made that very close.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, I.

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Speaker 9: Wanted to ask you about Miles. You've been around him

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Speaker 9: for a while now. Obviously he did some things. Yes,

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Speaker 9: I've never seen anybody jump a special team's line of

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Speaker 9: scrimmage from a stance and block a field goal. What

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Speaker 9: what is it like what he's doing this season? Obviously

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Speaker 9: we've seen his greatness for a long time, but just

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Speaker 10: Look, I would say every day he's the best, you know,

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Speaker 10: He's just a freak. And I've never seen somebody box

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Speaker 10: he like the shoutout, shout out of the cannon and

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Speaker 10: that was amazing play. I know Miles is an amazing

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Speaker 2: Great teammate, great players. This is a great win here.

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Speaker 2: You guys are four and two and for you, a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a milestone. Yesterday we had talked about it.

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Speaker 2: You scored your fiftieth career touchdown in the National Football

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Speaker 2: League and fifty one, which turned out to be even

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Speaker 2: more important. But when you think about that, for all

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Speaker 2: that you've been through, that's a fifty touchdowns in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League is a lot. And to do that

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Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Browns, and to do it in a

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Speaker 2: game where you guys got to win like this, Does

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Speaker 2: that mean anything? To do those kind of milestones you're

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Speaker 2: after a game like that.

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Speaker 10: Yes, it's amazing.

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Speaker 10: It's been quite the journey and you know, I couldn't

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Speaker 10: It would have meant a lot still, but it feels

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Speaker 10: even better knowing that we won. And it's a milestun

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Speaker 10: that can't any nobody take away from me. That's right,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there have been eight lead.

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Speaker 2: Changes in this game. That was the most of any

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Speaker 9: I mean the game took forever too. I mean it

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Speaker 2: You know, I kept going.

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Speaker 6: I just kept being played him, Like my god, it

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Speaker 2: No, we're doing right now. We're following a formula that

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Speaker 6: It like he's he's on that trajectory.

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Speaker 6: Let's remember that you are four and two.

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Speaker 2: Lots to celebrate, and you get.

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Speaker 9: A lot of reason to celebrate. Another thing that I

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Speaker 2: That was his career long.

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Speaker 2: Well, I did my my postgame recap in about at

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Speaker 9: He had three field goals over fifty yards. He won

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Speaker 2: He's gonna Defense Players the Week well, and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: Minshew came in this game, by the way, with six

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Speaker 2: rushes for eight yards on the season.

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Speaker 9: I know, yeah, yeah, and then but even and there

443
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Speaker 9: was some stuff that like this was our probably our

444
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Speaker 9: worst defensive performance. We did the one thing that we

445
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Speaker 9: hadn't done a lot of previously, which was take the

446
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Speaker 9: ball away and they Denzel, by the way, wasn't that

447
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 9: was an incredible interception.

448
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 2: Peeled off, peeled outside zone to undercut that was that.

449
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Speaker 9: Was unbelievable to get over there. I told the boys,

450
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Speaker 9: I said, that's that's the first like play that I've

451
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Speaker 9: seen it.

452
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Speaker 6: It's funny.

453
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Speaker 9: I looked at NBC and he looked at you with

454
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Speaker 9: a big smile on his face, because I always complain

455
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Speaker 9: when we play Madden, like how the defensive backs can

456
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 9: cut off all the routes, and they're like, NBC goes, Dad,

457
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Speaker 9: see they can do it. Yes, okay, one one play

458
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Speaker 9: in the course of a day could But you needed

459
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Speaker 9: those game changing plays, You needed those kicks, you needed

460
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Speaker 9: all that stuff. You needed Jerome Forward going to the

461
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Speaker 9: house early in the game. You had to have that.

462
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Speaker 2: And it's funny because I think this game could have

463
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Speaker 2: had such a different tone if on that so we score, Yeah,

464
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Speaker 2: then we get them to third and seven, which you're

465
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Speaker 2: thinking we're getting the ball back yep, and then you

466
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Speaker 2: go fourteen and that's what the Jags did. And then

467
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Speaker 2: the Colts kind of, you know, they lose their way

468
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Speaker 2: a little bit. They can't be that running team. And

469
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Speaker 2: then we have our first bust of the year.

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Speaker 9: That's on the where they I think we think it's

471
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Speaker 9: gonna be, they're gonna they're gonna call it dead like

472
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Speaker 9: on the off off well.

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Speaker 2: And that's the one thing if we were gonna nitpick

474
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Speaker 2: any we gotta clean those ups. And two of them

475
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Speaker 2: led to huge, huge plays because half the people stop. Yeah,

476
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: we got to just stay on sides. Too many times

477
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: are going off sides. But that's fine. If it leads

478
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Speaker 2: to the great play, whatever, we'll make the trade off.

479
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: But on that one, we just sat a bus I

480
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 2: think Denzel and rightfully so, being that it was third

481
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Speaker 2: and seven with our pass Russ, you're expecting the ball

482
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Speaker 2: to come out a little quicker, and probably if Minshew doesn't,

483
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Speaker 2: if it's not a free play, he probably doesn't even

484
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Speaker 2: look at Downs. Downs is running a clear out route

485
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Speaker 2: and Denzel was supposed to think I had a deep third.

486
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing is what it looked like. And then he

487
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Speaker 2: came over to the slot receiver who was a little shorter,

488
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: and that allowed That's why downs was so free, because

489
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: you had delp it in the flat. So that's what

490
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Speaker 2: it appeared to be. But it's they did. They hit

491
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Speaker 2: some big plays on us. But I think we had

492
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Speaker 2: a chance early, like right after that sixty nine yarder,

493
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Speaker 2: because that was so good to get it going. But man,

494
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 2: it was a battle. And again the Browns don't often

495
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Speaker 2: get help from the referees. If there was help or not,

496
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Speaker 2: I mean there was, I don't care, I don't care.

497
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Speaker 9: Just complaining to me, I said, you know, how any

498
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Speaker 9: do you have any Monday shows? When did we get

499
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Speaker 9: the NFL officiating report where they apologized.

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Speaker 2: For Oh my god, that's all the time.

501
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Speaker 6: Monday or Tuesday? Yeah, Monday.

502
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Speaker 2: Two un Tuesday shows.

503
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Speaker 9: I've done on Cleveland Browns Daily where we get the

504
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 9: apology from the refereez and go, well, thanks for nothing

505
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Speaker 9: anything I could care less about that we're due, Oh.

506
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Speaker 2: Man, are long past. We've won two games in a

507
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Speaker 2: row that we don't win typically historically, and it's awesome,

508
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Speaker 2: and it's great yea.

509
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Speaker 9: And either way, the first one, the first one on

510
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 9: the PJ the fumble that absolutely impacted he clutched it,

511
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Speaker 9: which caused the fumble and and Amari got held. The

512
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Speaker 9: second one again, I don't even plenty of plenty of

513
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Speaker 9: things on a Tuesday where you and I sit here

514
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Speaker 9: and go, oh look with this.

515
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Speaker 6: This is the NFL apologizing.

516
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that that ball was catchable from a

517
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Speaker 2: new bowl, George Mirra at least nude. I feel I

518
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Speaker 2: could maybe run a little mirror side. I don't think

519
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Speaker 2: you could even run a round. There is a who's

520
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Speaker 2: a new bull killed a Lion's true?

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Speaker 9: There's the guy And it's funny because when I was

522
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Speaker 9: a little kid, I was fascinated by him in the

523
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Speaker 9: Guinness Book of World Records. Like I think the guy's

524
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Speaker 9: name is like Robert Ludlow or something. He's like the

525
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Speaker 9: nine ft yeah yeah, yeah, Like my boys have found

526
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Speaker 9: him in the last couple of years, Dad man nine

527
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Speaker 9: ft two?

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Speaker 6: Would that be great to be nine?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 9: Probably, like maybe he could have brought it down if

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Speaker 9: he was standing prone.

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Speaker 6: Maybe, Yeah, I'm intrigued.

533
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Speaker 2: Gibbeh of course he wants to know if he's like

534
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Speaker 2: some six seven, I'd like to.

535
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Speaker 9: Know what that's all about. But either way, irregardless, we've

536
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Speaker 9: had a lot of things go against us that way. Yes, fine,

537
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Speaker 9: it was good to have one going.

538
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Speaker 2: And you know what's great about the NFL is that

539
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Speaker 2: they all count the same. This counts the same as

540
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Speaker 2: if we'd gone in there and beat him fifty six

541
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Speaker 2: to nothing. Now would there be the questions that we

542
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Speaker 2: have coming out of it. No, So that part's fine,

543
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Speaker 2: But as far as the standings go, it doesn't matter.

544
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Speaker 2: It just so happens that in our division the Steelers

545
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Speaker 2: pulled another wild one out the spot. He was a

546
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Speaker 2: yard short.

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Speaker 6: Of course, he was the yard short.

548
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Speaker 9: McVay couldn't challenge it because he didn't have any timeouts

549
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Speaker 9: and it wasn't under too.

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Speaker 2: It was right before the two.

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Speaker 6: It was right before the two in the warnings they

552
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Speaker 6: get off. It's unbelieva.

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Speaker 9: It's absolutely absolutely nuts. The NFL yesterday was DiCaprio on

554
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 9: the lemon ludes. That's what I want to talk about it.

555
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 9: I don't want to talk about Ah did not.

556
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Speaker 2: Go Hey, So you know what or do you do?

557
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: That's why you have a thirty game cushion.

558
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 6: After six weeks, they the NFL.

559
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Speaker 9: You and I are climbing out of the Lamberg into

560
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Speaker 9: the Lamborghini right now. After that week, that was man, nuts,

561
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 9: that was dude. But not just It's one thing. It's

562
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 9: one thing for the scores not be right. It's another

563
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 9: thing for like Baltimore to annihilate Detroit. It's another thing

564
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 9: for Buffalo to lose to the Patriots. And there were

565
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Speaker 9: more too that were just absolutely stupefying. The kid his

566
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 9: first start, the arm wrestler kid. Yes, the Bears, they

567
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 9: went and they bully, the Raiders bullied the rape.

568
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Speaker 6: What happened?

569
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Speaker 2: You had that right?

570
00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 6: I can't remember.

571
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

572
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Speaker 6: Here's what I do.

573
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Speaker 2: Now, here's what I should have had it. I said

574
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Speaker 2: I was, That was when I was, and then I

575
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: went away.

576
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Speaker 6: I can't remember.

577
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: I think I think here I say I'd heavy against it.

578
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: But you know, I like you, Yeah.

579
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Speaker 6: It would have been nice. Now there is.

580
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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at there's so many blank Taylor sif's

581
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Speaker 2: very popular right now. I'm told there are a lot

582
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Speaker 2: of blank spaces on our wind.

583
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Speaker 6: Oh boy, it's not good. It's not good. No kids

584
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 6: going through college destitute.

585
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 8: Wasn't the week that you hopped on boy rings.

586
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you'll get nothing and like it. That's

587
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: that's what we gave you this week.

588
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Speaker 9: You're not You're not getting the suite at the at

589
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 9: the Palazzo. That's not You're on Fremont Street after that weekend,

590
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 9: all right, let's we get oh totally penny slots. Let's

591
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 9: do the we gotta do the Deshaun stuff. So this

592
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 9: was it was crazy. This was so a full practice

593
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Speaker 9: on Friday for Deshaun Watson.

594
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Speaker 6: We were told, correct.

595
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Speaker 9: I believe we had that that that was the case,

596
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 9: fully active practice.

597
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Speaker 2: He took all the full look great, threw the ball effectively, was.

598
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Speaker 6: A participant in Thursday's practice, was a full participant in

599
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 6: Friday's practice.

600
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Speaker 2: He took PJ Walker said he PJ Walker said he

601
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 2: got two reps I think Thursday. So de Shaun took

602
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: all the reps Thursday and then every single rough Friday.

603
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Speaker 9: By the way, good job at a PJ Walker in

604
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 9: a brutal spot. I mean that's a that's two weeks.

605
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: He just really there are things that there are throws

606
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: that he does not connect with. That like on the

607
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: third day. We never should have gotten fourth to one.

608
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 2: On third down, he's rolling right, which for a right

609
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: handed quarterback is that's where you want to be rolling.

610
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: And Elijah Moore couldn't have been more open eight yards

611
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: in front of him or six. Yeah, and he missed

612
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: him by ten yards. I mean, I know so he

613
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: but on third and ten, he gets the ball off

614
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: a millisecond before DeForest Buckner knocks at sackstrip fumbles him

615
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: and drops a dime into Elijah Moore. We do not

616
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Speaker 2: win the game without that throw. And then he drilled

617
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: a nice one to Donovan People's Jones yep, down to

618
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: the twenty yard line. We don't win without some of

619
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Speaker 2: the plays he made. PJ. Walker had started seven games.

620
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Speaker 2: We're come to Cleveland. Breath, there we go. That's right, Yes,

621
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Speaker 2: we will take it. He had started seven games. He

622
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: had never had a fourth quarter comeback or a game

623
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Speaker 2: winning drive. He has now two fourth quarter comebacks and

624
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: two game winning drives in the last two weeks against

625
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers and then the team that brought

626
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: him into the league. How poetic is that, as an

627
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: undrafted free agent out of Temple, was the colt who

628
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: was there seventeen, eighteen nineteen. In fact, when we were

629
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: there Gibe for those joint practices, he was there. PJ.

630
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: Walker was their quarterback because if you remember at the time,

631
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: I think it was Jacoby Andrew Luck, and I think PJ.

632
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: Walker and Andrew Luck was not a participant. So I

633
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: thought that was very cool for him. Again, we have

634
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: got okay, I have so many thoughts. We're starting with

635
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: DeShawn so I felt like and even watching him warm up,

636
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: I was kind of like, I don't know that we're

637
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: ripping it and maybe we're saving it for the game,

638
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: but I felt like he was not. It felt like

639
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: he almost didn't trust his own arm to throw the

640
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: ball the way he knows he's capable of throwing it.

641
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: The Baldi Markey's good to Marque's good was wide open. Well,

642
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: I mean he was wide open, and then the ball

643
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: was late and was in the air for an eternatah

644
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: as Hartman would say, yeah and so yeah, that was

645
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: really good. Put that on a hot key. It just

646
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: felt like he didn't he didn't trust himself, He didn't

647
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: trust his own being to play the game, despite getting

648
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, cleared and being able to do it and

649
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: hitting his velocity checks from prior to the injury and

650
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: all of those things, and it felt like once he

651
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: was in the game, he just was not comfortable letting

652
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: it rip. And so you come in a little bit

653
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: banged up. And whether that's in this case, you know,

654
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: we don't. You never know what somebody feels right in

655
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: their shoulders. Only he knows. This is a guy whose

656
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: toughness has been you know, beyond reprot in terms of

657
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: things that he's done in his curer, playing on a

658
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: torn a cl the lung, all of it. There's some

659
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Speaker 2: disconnect between I think what's going on in his mind

660
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Speaker 2: and what's going on with his arm and the ability

661
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Speaker 2: to then execute at a high level. And so I

662
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: don't know what the solution is. And as I said,

663
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Speaker 2: even the postgam like, we've got questions, big ones coming

664
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Speaker 2: out of this game. It's nice being foreign too, But

665
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Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is, as we're currently constructed

666
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Speaker 2: this team, and PJ. Walker has done a great job

667
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 2: and DTR showed nice flashes in the preseason, as this

668
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: team is currently constructed, we are not going to be

669
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Speaker 2: a team of consequence unless Deshaun Watson is Deshaun Watson yeah.

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Speaker 9: And you know you have that Tennessee tape the three

671
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Speaker 9: and that's where you like where you felt like, okay,

672
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Speaker 9: there you go.

673
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna do it.

674
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Speaker 9: Now we're going to go and and then the you know,

675
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 9: the the injury happens in that Tennessee game and we

676
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 9: haven't seen it since. And I you and I were

677
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 9: talking last week and I said, you know, and this

678
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Speaker 9: was before he practiced Friday, But I thought like, does

679
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 9: he can we just expect somebody who hasn't practiced in

680
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 9: four weeks to come in and go and and have

681
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Speaker 9: all it back.

682
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Speaker 6: And then he had the great.

683
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Speaker 9: Practice on Friday and he said, we'll put that to bed.

684
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 9: Then then he's good to go and and away you go.

685
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 9: But you know, I don't know now and I you know,

686
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 9: we're gonna play coach for you.

687
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Speaker 6: In a second. I think you hit it right.

688
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 9: Like to me, even like before the before he went

689
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Speaker 9: out of the game, he looked like somebody who was

690
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 9: was trying to place the ball, yes, pushing it. He

691
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 9: was like it was like he was trying to place

692
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Speaker 9: the ball where he wanted it to go. On the

693
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Speaker 9: first thoal rip nothing, It wasn't it was all looked

694
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Speaker 9: like he was like like a kid cut first time

695
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 9: back from a catastrophic injury?

696
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 6: Am I throwing? Is this where it goes?

697
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: That's what it felt like to in my mind. In

698
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: my mind, and it feels like, you know, when somebody

699
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: comes back from an acl and they may be medically cleared,

700
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: but they either themselves major surgery, feel something and don't

701
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 2: trust their body to make the cuts because they're afraid

702
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: and tell at some point, you know, you go and

703
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: then you forget about it. For in my walk of life,

704
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: it's like for me with my voice, if I have

705
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: a cold, you know, I'm constantly thinking about it, and

706
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: then all of sudden one day I stopped thinking about

707
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: that and my voice is fine. Yep. And I think

708
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: that there's a little bit of a disconnect for him there.

709
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: That is a hurdle that has got to be overcome.

710
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: Because listen, we were at the Greenbrier, we were at

711
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: training camp together. We've seen him like he's got a cannon.

712
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: We're talking about a guy who was ripping twenty yard

713
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: outs from the far hash like he did it against Tennessee.

714
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: He was making throws at where the Tennessee guy thought

715
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Speaker 2: they were going to get a jump on the ball

716
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: and the ball beat them to the receiver. So we

717
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: know what his arm actually is and it is not

718
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Speaker 2: right now that it's not, and so it's got to

719
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Speaker 2: be figured out how to get him comfortable there because like.

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Speaker 6: I just don't know how you do that in the

721
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Speaker 6: in an NFL season.

722
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Speaker 2: I think that's gonna it's got to come from, in

723
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: my mind, one man's opinion. It's got to come from

724
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: him playing and just stop stop thinking, like, just play,

725
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: just play, Just let it rip and then be like, oh,

726
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: I've let it rip in my arm, still attached my body.

727
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: We're good to go. So you got to do it,

728
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: like you got to push it. And if you can't,

729
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: because I know people are out there dreaming up Kirk

730
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: Cousins scenarios and all of these things, I just don't

731
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Speaker 2: see that as a realistic possibility. I mean, is Jacoby maybe,

732
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Speaker 2: But what are the if you're the commanders, let's just

733
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Speaker 2: play Devil's advocate here, Yeah, you call the commanders, they

734
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Speaker 2: would have an idea that you're you have zero I mean,

735
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Speaker 2: you're gonna get I would imagine drug over the coals

736
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: for this for sure.

737
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Speaker 9: Yeah, because you have everything else And the only reason

738
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Speaker 9: I say that and I know that we'll play Kevin.

739
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Speaker 9: And he was asked this by the Beat, but it

740
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 9: was like, is this a situation where he just needs

741
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Speaker 9: to go on IR and go get rehabbed. I mean,

742
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 9: he didn't have surgery, so I guess I don't rehab

743
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Speaker 9: so I really don't lose.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like unless something changed after that hit,

745
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: which did not appear to affect his shoulder in any way,

746
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: unless something changed after that in it, then I don't

747
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: think so.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but who knows. I mean, I mean he was.

749
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: Saying that he had Deshaun's words, which was the most

750
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Speaker 2: I guess medical insight we got from him on it.

751
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 2: Or basically like abrasions or micro tears that don't show

752
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: up but are are there. So unless we're not talking

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Speaker 2: about something where like there's a real structural issue.

754
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, not a doctor. Unless change.

755
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, unless that change, even from what

756
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: he described, then you feel like you're getting better every

757
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: single day. These guys have the ability to access the

758
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: greatest treatment protocols in the world. Sure, there's obviously a

759
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: lot going on to turn those micro tears into nothing,

760
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: no teares whatsoever. So I don't know. It's the tough

761
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: part about it is this team right now feels like

762
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: a team of destiny. You're getting breaks that we've never got.

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Speaker 2: You're foreign two now. It's outrageous that the Steelers are

764
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: also foreign to and the Ravens I think are five

765
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Speaker 2: and two. Well, they looked too and they smoked. Lamar

766
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: was unbelievable yesterday that you know, four and two times

767
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: could have been right on top of the division. You're

768
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: still right there, but you're everywhere you need to be.

769
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: But or we need to get the quarterback play that's

770
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: commeserate with with our team. That's the one thing we

771
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: haven't done. We finally won the turnover battle. Yeah, and

772
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: needed every one of them, needed every one of them.

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Speaker 6: That's right, Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 9: You're gonna hear from coach Tefanski on Deshaun, among other things,

775
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 9: his Monday meeting with the press. Coming your way next,

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Speaker 5: They give the.

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Speaker 3: Ford No, Yes, Ford up the middle drove Ford and

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Speaker 3: the fifty Colt territory forty. It's a foot race twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: Ford is not gonna get caught. He's into the end zone.

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Speaker 9: All right, before we get to coach at the podium,

787
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Speaker 9: we have Alex right into concussion protocol.

788
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 6: From an injury standpoint.

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00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, coach says, though today he's trending in the right direction,

790
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 8: so maybe it's another a walk situation where you might

791
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 8: get him back sooner rather than later.

792
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: And then Jerome Ford ale and you saw that kind

793
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: of when he came up, it looked his foot didn't

794
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: look great. And we'll see. But you know, you got

795
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: Cream Hunt, you got Pierre Strong. You just signed Dean Jackson,

796
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: So that's at least a spot on the roster where

797
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: you've got some depth. Forward's got that go get him.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what I like the way Pierre

799
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 2: Strong runs the football. He ran nice.

800
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Speaker 6: I think he did fine.

801
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: I think he has a shot if you were feature him,

802
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: he's going to take some of the house. He's got speed.

803
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 9: There's none of this is enough to do what your

804
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 9: defense would and your special teams will allow you to

805
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 9: do in terms of a ceiling, but it's enough to

806
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 9: keep you float. Ye, You're at Seattle this week and

807
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 9: then Arizona.

808
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: Here they are impressively good.

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00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 6: No, no, they're fine, but they're but I mean it's

810
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 6: gonna be a full day winning out there for sure,

811
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 6: as you are right now.

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00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: The coigners are elite.

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Speaker 6: They are.

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00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, and they played yesterday without DK Metcalf in the game.

815
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Speaker 9: Let's go to the podium. Now here's coach Defanski.

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Speaker 12: Okay, like we talked about yesterday, gutty win wasn't always pretty,

817
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 12: but really pleased with how the team fought.

818
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 7: I thought, you know, the couple of things to point out.

819
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 12: I thought the two drives at the end of either

820
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 12: half were huge and those were offense defense special teams

821
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 12: aided drives to get those points. Some unbelievable individual efforts

822
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 12: throughout on all three sides of the ball. So really

823
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 12: crowd again of just going on the road finding a

824
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 12: way to win, and then we gotta do that again

825
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 12: this week. So going on the road to Seattle, we

826
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 12: know all the things that that brings to play, and

827
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 12: I think we're excited about that injury front. I'll have

828
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 12: more information really on everybody as the week progresses, but

829
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 12: Jerome Ford dealing with the ankle, Alex right is more

830
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 12: information but is trending the right way concussion protocol, and

831
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 12: then Deshaun with the shoulder obviously will continue to take

832
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 12: that day to day.

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00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 7: But with that, I'll take any questions.

834
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Speaker 13: You knew it would be a risk putting him out

835
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Speaker 13: there after coming back off of an injury, and I'm

836
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 13: sure you expected him to take a hit at some point.

837
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 13: Did you think that was an excessive hit that he took,

838
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Speaker 13: that that was the reason why you wanted to protect

839
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 13: him the rest of the game.

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Speaker 12: I mean, as you can imagine, all hits are tough,

841
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 12: but yeah, I thought that was a big hit. I

842
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 12: saw it up on the big screen when they showed

843
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 12: the replay of it. You know, no obviously hit on

844
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 12: the shoulder taking him in checking for a concussion.

845
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: So I.

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Speaker 7: Just felt like the right thing for the team was

847
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 7: to protect him.

848
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: He Kevin, when you look at four and fifty six

849
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 5: yards allowed yet for takeaways, how would you assess the

850
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 5: way your defense played?

851
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 7: Yeah? Battle to the end.

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00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 12: I mean that drive at the end to get us

853
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 12: three and out stopping the run as we use timeouts,

854
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 12: that was as big as anything in that game. Was

855
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 12: a perfect Nope. That's what we're in here right now,

856
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 12: meeting with the players on to try to improve. We

857
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 12: know teams are going to make plays on us, but

858
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 12: you know, we want to do everything in our power

859
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 12: to slow that other team down. So there's things that

860
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 12: we can correct, we will get them corrected. But there's

861
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 12: also some unbelievable moments in that game. We've waited till

862
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 12: now to talk about Miles. You know, he played as

863
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 12: good as you can play in a football game. He's

864
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 12: dominated the game. It's a six point swing there with

865
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 12: the blocking, the field goal, sack, fumble, sacks previously to

866
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 12: set up the offense. So he's playing I don't know

867
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 12: if there's a higher level, but he's playing at it.

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00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, you were able to get the ball downfield to

869
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 14: Elijah Moore had a big catch. You see that working

870
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 14: more and more, just you know, the down the field

871
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 14: plays with him.

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00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 7: I hope.

873
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 12: So you know, he's a really good wide receiver for us.

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00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 12: He's a good football player, always trying to find ways

875
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 12: to get him the ball, throw him a screen in

876
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 12: the game, made a really nice play, Like you mentioned

877
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 12: that thirty yarder on the last drive was huge.

878
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 7: So always looking for ways to get number eighth the ball.

879
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 14: And you also talk about the weapon Dustin Hopkins. Is

880
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 14: that you know he can He's been almost automatic when

881
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 14: you get to the inside the thirty five.

882
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 12: Yeah, very you know Dustin's he's just kicking at a

883
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 12: high level. I mean, the guy prepares well, fits this team,

884
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 12: really fits in with this team really well.

885
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 7: We have a lot of trust in him.

886
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 12: You know, we don't want to be kicking too often

887
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 12: from fifty plus yards, but the guy just continues to

888
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 12: come through for US fot ball team.

889
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 7: What has PJ.

890
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: Walker done in a short amount of time that continues

891
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 2: to give you guys confidence in him.

892
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 6: If he needs to continue to play past week of

893
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 6: the week.

894
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, just you get measured and wins and losses, you know,

895
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 7: doing enough to help us win. We had to go

896
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 7: on an eighty yard drive there at the end, and

897
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 7: we did and he operated and did a nice job.

898
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: Kevin for a game that had almost eighty total points.

899
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 6: It kind of felt like there was a real emphasis

900
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 6: on field position.

901
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 12: How much of a weapon is Corey Bojorquez for you, Yeah,

902
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 12: he's a huge weapon that that punt team A couple

903
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 12: of times there flip the field, you know.

904
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 7: I think back even to the end of the half

905
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 7: being able to pin them.

906
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 12: I think we maybe had a fourth and four or

907
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 12: so around midfield and to play the field position game.

908
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 12: I think there are always times when you know there's

909
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 12: times to be aggressive in those instances, but when you

910
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 12: have a weapon like Corey and your punt team, it

911
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 12: gives you confidence to put your defense on the field

912
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 12: and some advantage field positions.

913
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 15: Pj's had his three elevations now, so is the plan

914
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 15: to sign him to the roster or will you guys

915
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 15: allow him to go through waivers and try and get

916
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 15: him back on the practice squad.

917
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 12: That's an A B question. But those are all things Darrell.

918
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 12: As you know, we talked through all those and we'll

919
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 12: update you when appropriate.

920
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 5: Hey, Kevin, I wanted to go through that end of

921
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: the game scenario a little more. I know we talked

922
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 5: about it a bit yesterday, but when you decided to

923
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 5: throw three times with no time out to get it,

924
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 5: but it's the biggest concern there, the timing of it,

925
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 5: or just you know, getting guys lined up, having a

926
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 5: spike like what goes into thinking.

927
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 12: That, Yeah, it was that those four places took years

928
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 12: off my life, I'm sure everybody else. So the idea

929
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 12: there in the first one, obviously trying to score touchdown,

930
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 12: and we weren't you know, we would have taken a

931
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 12: touchdown a first down. We didn't necessarily want to wait

932
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 12: till fourth down. But the tough part is if you're

933
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 12: if the clock is running after that first down play.

934
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 12: We were in twenty three personnel, so we had big

935
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 12: players on the field, so it's harder to run plays

936
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 12: out of that type of group. Uh So, really my

937
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 12: mentality been I knew where on the one I knew

938
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 12: our fourth down call was going to score if we

939
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 12: got to it, quite honestly, but I just didn't feel

940
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 12: comfortable with the thought of a second first down, a

941
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 12: second down or a third down play that was going

942
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 12: to not.

943
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 7: Get in and then chew off, you know, valuable time.

944
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 12: So felt confident in the plays we called and ultimately

945
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 12: executed that last one.

946
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 5: And then I mean, look like your guys open on

947
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 5: a couple of those, and then when you say I mean,

948
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 5: did you like those calls? And then when you say

949
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 5: you knew you're gonna score on fourth? Was it always

950
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 5: just a hand off the kareem? Was that always called?

951
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 7: Yeah?

952
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, the line I could. They were yelling at me.

953
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 12: Uh you know, I saw the Wan telling me it

954
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 12: was a yard. I'm like, I got you, dude, I'll

955
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 12: get there.

956
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 6: That's pretty good. It's great, it's pretty good.

957
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: You see Dwan the big spike and then got to

958
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: go hug and celebrate with his mom. He's from Indianapolis.

959
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: I did know that.

960
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 9: I didn't know that he was from Indianapolis, and I

961
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 9: saw that he did as well. Yeah, it was man,

962
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 9: this league, it's so hard to get those wins and

963
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 9: certainly understand the questions that are out there and much

964
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 9: of the questioning from the beat about what is going

965
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 9: on with the quarterback. It's justifiable. It's understandable because it's

966
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 9: the biggest It is the question. Yeah, because this is

967
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 9: the deal. This defense and whomever you play at quarterback

968
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 9: is good enough to go eight to nine or seven

969
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 9: and ten, nine and eight, maybe even could be could

970
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 9: be good enough to do that, but it's not good

971
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 9: enough to do what you want to do big picture

972
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 9: in the AFC, it's not you cannot play offensive football

973
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 9: this way.

974
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 6: I think we're thirty first in the league.

975
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 2: We're last in every quarterback metric in the league.

976
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 9: In the league, yet last I think thirty one overall

977
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 9: in the offense, aren't we Yeah, thirty one something like that.

978
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: So one on defense, two special teams like efficiency one offense,

979
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: one defense, two special teams offense, and we're top ten offense.

980
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: I search to Kobe.

981
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 11: Yeah.

982
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 7: Right.

983
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 9: So that's the reason that this back to the quarterback

984
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 9: situation because the and Pj's filled in admirably to your

985
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 9: point earlier. DTR did a great job in the preseason.

986
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 9: But in terms of trying to do what you want

987
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 9: to do big picture, you have to have better quarterback

988
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 9: play than what you're getting. And so that I get

989
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 9: all of that, but I would also say that, and

990
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 9: this is more for the Browns fans out there, like

991
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 9: man four and two is pretty good and you get

992
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 9: the win, you are watching history. Every time Miles Garrett

993
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 9: takes the field, you're watching historic performance. He is one

994
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 9: of those guys that if if you have a parent

995
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 9: a grandparent who says, oh, I remember Jim Brown or

996
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 9: I remember whoever it may be Cozar Sipe or whoever,

997
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 9: whoever their favorite guy was Clay Matthews. There will be

998
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 9: people you're gonna be telling your kids, well, I watch

999
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 9: Miles Garrett in his prime and there was nothing like it,

1000
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 9: and the Reggie White stuff's there all that, the way

1001
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 9: he's playing is worthy of that praise.

1002
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: On the list of sacks by the time that you

1003
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: turn twenty eight, it's a ridiculous lists. It's a pretty

1004
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: arned good list. Miles Garrett first eighty two, Reggie White

1005
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: second eighty, Derek Thomas seventy seven, Bruce Smith seventy six

1006
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: point five. JJ Watt has seventy five. So we're talking

1007
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: about or seventy six. I'm sorry, So you're talking about

1008
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: gold jacket, gold jacket, gold jacket, and likely to gold jacket.

1009
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure they're all first team all I'm sorry

1010
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 9: first ballot hoffs too. Was Derek Thomas first ballot? The

1011
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 9: others were, for sure, But I don't know if Derek

1012
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 9: was first ballot.

1013
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 6: I think he was.

1014
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 2: How could he napping?

1015
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 9: I would feel like he would have been first ballot

1016
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame, But all of those guys are first

1017
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 9: ballot gold jackets. So that's the trajectory that Miles is on. Yes,

1018
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 9: and his greatness was on full display. And my Gode Hopkins.

1019
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: Cheez, he's so automatic, dude, fifty four? Is it a

1020
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: fifty eight? I talked to him after the game. By

1021
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: the way, give eight. Did we are we getting our

1022
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 2: buddy in here from the special teams unit?

1023
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 6: Yes, we are.

1024
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 8: He couldn't do today but this week. Yes, I've said,

1025
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 8: I don't care if it's Tuesday, Friday, Wednesday and Thursday

1026
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 8: are tough because they have practice while we're on the air,

1027
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 8: but I'm like, I need him in studio.

1028
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: They are aware, Okay, good.

1029
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 7: You know.

1030
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: I think Bubba takes an approach with with kickers and

1031
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: he'll talk about a little more, but where he kind

1032
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: of says, what how do you like to do things?

1033
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: What is your routine and then saying let's do that.

1034
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: And Dustin Hopkins is very particular about when he kicks,

1035
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: how he kicks throughout the course of a week to

1036
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: be ready on Sundays. And by the way, whatever he's

1037
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: doing is pretty darn spot on. It is working. He

1038
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 2: is he is a weapon, and you know that's what

1039
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: Kate Kate's He is what Cad York was drafted to be,

1040
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: and Cad York, you know, hopefully at some point we'll

1041
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: have a great career in the NFL. I think we're

1042
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 2: very lucky to have Dustin Hopkins. And he's not gonna

1043
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: make everyone. He's missed too, but he is so reliable.

1044
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: His ball striking is so reliable, and it's just awesome.

1045
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: I when we had two scoring drives yesterday, we had

1046
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: one that went I think like negative six yards and

1047
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: one that went zero yards, and these busting fifty four

1048
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: yards after turnovers in their territory where we can't go.

1049
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: We can't move the ball. That's right, we can't move

1050
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: the ball. And you know, with the way our quarterbacks

1051
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: are playing.

1052
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 7: You need that.

1053
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 2: You need him to be Phil Dawson esque where Phil

1054
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: Dawson was, you know, the best offensive weapon. And right now,

1055
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: Dustin Hopkins is doing his best at that. I mean,

1056
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: he's on a trajectory to be the Pro Bowl quarterback

1057
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: and maybe even a first team All Pro. Like that's

1058
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: how that's where he's at now, that's how well he is.

1059
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: He's kicking the football for the Cleveland Browns. One thing

1060
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: I want to say real quickly, is you know our

1061
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: run game thirty three carries hundred fifty yards four point

1062
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: five a carry you take away sixty nine and seventeen,

1063
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: which is eighty six. We had thirty one carries for

1064
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: sixty four yards. We have too many runs that go

1065
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: zero or backwards, backwards.

1066
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 6: Where I think we're twenty on that flip to Jerome.

1067
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: My god, but that's a that was a great play call.

1068
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 9: It was a fantastic threw a fastball wide open two

1069
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 9: yards away for you to so you think it was

1070
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 9: too fast way we were far okay to be on TV.

1071
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 6: It looked like he was throwing like a missilet. It

1072
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 6: was accurate, yeah, but it was hard.

1073
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean his his uhat, my blinking on his

1074
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: shovel passed, the chief was up a rock fireball off

1075
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: of his face correct from a yard from But that play,

1076
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: that's one of those ones where that that might very

1077
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 2: well may have been touched on. You had a blocker

1078
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: on the outside, you had a blood there was nobody there.

1079
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: They all bit on the dive and then you pitched

1080
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: it out. And that's what lends It's so hard, because man,

1081
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: that that could changings. But over all the point I

1082
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: was making was even on that last drive when we

1083
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: ran if it was like if Pierrestrong got to the

1084
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, he picked up thirteen yards yep, already

1085
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: was hit in the backfield and it was over. And

1086
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: I think we've got to do there are certain things

1087
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: that we've got to do a little bit better in

1088
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: the run game. And I think you know that that

1089
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: certainly would be one negative plays because this is not

1090
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: a team that's gonna do very well from behind the sticks.

1091
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Speaker 2: I mean, you got a third ten to ten conversion.

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Speaker 2: It required probably the best throw PJ. Walker's career, yeah,

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Speaker 2: outside of the bomb to DJ Moore last year, to

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Speaker 2: get it to Elijah Moore.

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Speaker 8: By the way, real quick, because we've got to go

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Speaker 8: to break here. Derek Thomas took him five tries to

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Speaker 8: get in.

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Speaker 2: What that's a joke.

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Speaker 6: That's a joke. It's a bad job. It's a bad jump.

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Speaker 3: Minshew's gonna throw Minshew intercepted, Denzel Ward has it in

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Speaker 3: Midfield has Blockers Colts territory down to the forty two

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Speaker 3: where he's tackled.

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Speaker 9: Time for the Joe Thomas half hour of the program

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Speaker 9: joined by the hoff Now hoff I just want to

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Speaker 9: start with this. You've played a lot of football, You've

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00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 9: you've been involved with a lot of football. Have you

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00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 9: ever seen anybody do what Miles did on the blocked

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Speaker 9: field goal in that from a stance to almost like

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Speaker 9: frogger over the line of scrimmage and then on the

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Speaker 9: same land and then jump again to block a kick.

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Speaker 9: Have you ever seen anything like that?

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Speaker 11: No, it was one of the most amazing athletic seats

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Speaker 11: that I've ever seen on a football field. The ability

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Speaker 11: to just vertical jump over a human being and not

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Speaker 11: touch him whatsoever, and then jump again high enough think

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Speaker 11: block a kick is a remarkable feat of athletic prowess,

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Speaker 11: and it's why I keep telling people that I think

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Speaker 11: Miles Garrett is probably the most physically freakish player that

1130
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Speaker 11: I ever stepped foot on a football field with.

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Speaker 2: When you watch what he did not only on that,

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00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: but even go put the tape on for the sack,

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00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: the sacks from fumble. He's getting chipped by a tight end.

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00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: The tackle's kind of like waiting for me. He still

1135
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: gets around the outside of the tackle like without ever

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00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: breaking stride. He goes through a chip, around a block

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Speaker 2: and makes that fumble. How does he do that?

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Speaker 11: I think that thing that separates Miles is obviously he's

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00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 11: super big and fast and strong, but his ability to

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Speaker 11: bend and be slippery and sudden, Like when he puts

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00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 11: his foot in the ground, he can change direction at

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Speaker 11: full speed, which is not something that you usually see

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Speaker 11: from anybody much with a guy who's two hundred and

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Speaker 11: eighty pounds, And then just his ability to bend and

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Speaker 11: get through tight spaces. You know, it's kind of like

1146
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 11: that mouse that keeps sneaking into my garage, Like the

1147
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 11: guy can slither through the tiniest of crafts that you've

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00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 11: ever seen, and it's something that doesn't even make sense,

1149
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 11: a huge human being all of a sudden just warphing

1150
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Speaker 11: down and doing like the matrix to get through those blocks.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it's fun to watch them. It's hard for

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00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 11: me to watch any other parts of the field when

1153
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 11: Miles is out there because it's so amazing what he

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Speaker 11: does on a consistent basis.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we've been blessed to see some really transcendent defensive players.

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Speaker 9: You fell at Wisconsin, JJ Watt has been that, TJ's hed,

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Speaker 9: Aaron Donald's probably the standard over the last decade plus.

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Speaker 9: But it does feel like Miles has reached or is

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Speaker 9: reaching whatever peak Miles Garrett is. And if you think

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Speaker 9: about what he's capable of, Joe, I mean, obviously he'll

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Speaker 9: join you in a gold jacket at this trajectory that

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Speaker 9: game yesterday. I try to think of like a I'm

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00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 9: sure Aaron's head games like this. We know TJ's had

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Speaker 9: a game where like, you do not win without him,

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Speaker 9: and he's he is directly responsible for points for our

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Speaker 9: team in the game, directly.

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Speaker 11: My guy Andrew Hawkins texted during the game that Miles

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Speaker 11: Garrett is the Browns best offensive player because he was

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Speaker 11: I mean, he was pouring all of the points out there.

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Speaker 11: I mean, for a game that the Browns offense was

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Speaker 11: not really at their best. To say it mildly, Miles

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Speaker 11: kept him in there and basically delivered him to win

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Speaker 11: with the number of game changing and direct point scoring

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Speaker 11: moments that he did from the defensive and the special

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Speaker 11: team side of the game. I mean, I can't imagine

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Speaker 11: remembering a game outside of an NFL game where some

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Speaker 11: cornerback might have a couple of pick sixers or something

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Speaker 11: like that, where a defensive player legitimately had that many

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Speaker 11: turnover worthy and turnover and point producing plays from the

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Speaker 11: defensive side.

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Speaker 2: Take us through kind of of your mindset watching this one.

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Speaker 2: We know that the Cleveland Browns historically in these type

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Speaker 2: of games, it has not worked the way that we

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Speaker 2: have wanted to. They have not concluded the way that

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Speaker 2: we have wanted to to see this team go and

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Speaker 2: get it done. And then take us in the mindset

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Speaker 2: of alignment where it's fourth and a yard and I

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Speaker 2: thought Jed Wills did a great job on kind of

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Speaker 2: his seal down there to allow Wyatt to pull around.

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Speaker 2: But the mindset of just getting it done in that

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Speaker 2: moment as an offensive line as well, when it's fourth

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Speaker 2: and one and you need that yard for a win.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it was really cool. I mean having

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Speaker 11: Nick Harris there playing fullback for us in the backfield

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Speaker 11: a bunch of times, and it was great for me

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Speaker 11: to watch the fansky just go, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 11: it's not our game throwing the football. We feel like,

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Speaker 11: you know, we have some opportunities. We just didn't capitalize

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Speaker 11: on it. But you know, we can just go ground

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Speaker 11: and pound. We can get this done. With our big

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Speaker 11: fellows and a guy that nobody really knew who he

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Speaker 11: was for this game and Pierre Strong and being able

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00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 11: to just impose your will on your opponents. It's got

1204
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 11: to feel good. I hope that it kind of builds

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00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 11: some excitement within that locker room, like, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 11: we can do the thing. However we have to on offense,

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Speaker 11: because obviously it hasn't looked pretty from week to week.

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Speaker 11: You don't know how long De Shaun's going to be out,

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Speaker 11: and you don't know how effective he's going to be.

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Speaker 11: When he comes back. So if without Nick Chubb, it

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Speaker 11: means that we have to get big and we have

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Speaker 11: to get physical and putting Nick Harris in the backfield

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Speaker 11: a little bit, that's all we can do it because

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Speaker 11: we've proven now that that's a way that we can

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Speaker 11: win the game, especially when you couple with that great

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Speaker 11: defense that we have.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's one other factor here, and Miles was incredible,

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Speaker 9: but the other positive factor is it and you played

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Speaker 9: with Phil so you have a better feeling about that.

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Speaker 9: I wasn't covering the team on a daily basis at

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00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 9: that point, but like Dustin Hopkins, being automatic is pretty cool.

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Speaker 11: Joe, Oh, it's awesome. I mean it's great. Where was

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Speaker 11: this guy like during preseason when all we wanted to

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Speaker 11: talk about, when all I got to talk about on

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Speaker 11: the broadcast is the kicker. You know, it's so cool

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Speaker 11: to think that, you know where it feels like we're

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Speaker 11: back to that full Dawson days where you know you'll

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Speaker 11: line up anytime you're inside of the thirty five and

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Speaker 11: you feel pretty good about your chances and then all

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Speaker 11: of a sudden, now he's extending him. I mean, how

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Speaker 11: long was that one sixty three in the game. It

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Speaker 11: looks like it would have been good from about It

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Speaker 11: looked like it would have been a good from about

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Speaker 11: sixty eight. I mean they had plenty of room, is fair.

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Speaker 11: So he's got the leg, he's got the accuracy. That's great.

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Speaker 11: I mean defense, special teams, good kicking game, if you

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Speaker 11: can run the ball a little bit like that's the

1238
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 11: old school formula for success, but it's still a formula

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Speaker 11: for success in today's NFL. So I think it's it's

1240
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 11: something that you're going to want to lean on moving forward,

1241
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 11: and you're going to be a tough team to beat

1242
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 11: if you can do those things moving forward, and you

1243
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 11: can just start playing some more mistake free football, which

1244
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 11: that's been our biggest achilles field the whole season. You know,

1245
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Speaker 11: you can talk about inconsistent quarterback play and maybe that's

1246
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 11: part of it, inconsistent offensive output, but you know we're

1247
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 11: turning the oliver and we weren't getting turnovers until this game,

1248
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Speaker 11: So you know, limit your turnovers, just protect the football

1249
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 11: and start getting some turnovers on defense, and you're gonna

1250
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 11: win a lot of games with as good as we

1251
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 11: are personnel and scheme wise there, especially on defense.

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Speaker 2: Yes, defense, as playing lights out Hopkins playing lights out?

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Speaker 2: You mentioned quarterback? All right, what did what did you

1254
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: observe with the Shawn? What do you make of kind

1255
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: of what happened? And where do the Browns go from here?

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 11: Well? What did he have five or six passes before

1257
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 11: he left the game with Yeah, with the concussion check him.

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00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 11: Then they said he didn't have a concussion, but they

1259
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 11: just held him out because of the shoulder. I mean,

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Speaker 11: he didn't look effective. It looked like it was bothering

1261
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 11: his ability to throw the ball down the field. It

1262
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 11: looked like on the throws that he had, he was

1263
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 11: kind of under throwing him. And then I think also,

1264
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Speaker 11: when you don't feel like you have your normal cannon,

1265
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 11: you're going to start letting that creep into your head

1266
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 11: a little bit about like can I make throw? And

1267
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Speaker 11: then you start being maybe more risk averse than you should,

1268
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 11: and you start throwing the ball in spots that are

1269
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 11: not there, they're not available, but you're just worried you

1270
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 11: can't throw the ball further down the field, and so

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Speaker 11: I think you just start overthinking things and now all

1272
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 11: of a sudden, you're throwing the ball right to the

1273
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 11: defense because you're not taking your normal mindset throughout the snap.

1274
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 11: From the ball getting snapped, you drop him back to

1275
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,959
Speaker 11: going through your progressions and just letting it rip wherever

1276
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 11: the defense dictates. You're not doing that, and I think

1277
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 11: it's dangerous and because you're going to put the ball

1278
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 11: in harm's way trying to force it in places that

1279
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 11: you think your arm is available to put the ball.

1280
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Speaker 11: And so I think he needs to make sure his

1281
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 11: arm is one hundred healthy before he gets back there,

1282
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 11: because the five passes I saw before he got injured,

1283
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 11: they were not pretty and that was not winning football

1284
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 11: that he was playing before he left the game. So

1285
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 11: let's get him healthy, you know. I think PJ has

1286
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 11: proven that he can in two and zero as a

1287
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 11: starter right now, and especially if we start bringing this

1288
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 11: run game on a little bit. I think Jerome Ford's

1289
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 11: showing us some stuff. Kareem Hunts been a sledgehammer in there,

1290
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 11: Pierre Strong all of a sudden doing some fun stuff,

1291
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Speaker 11: you know, And so just play some more cool ball

1292
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 11: until Deshawn's completely ready and completely healthy to get back

1293
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Speaker 11: in there.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned the run game, and that's something you know.

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Speaker 2: You look at the final seats on hundred and fift

1296
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: yards rushing four point five carry three touchdowns. That looks good.

1297
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Speaker 2: We had like one hundred and seventeen on the ground

1298
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Speaker 2: early in the game, obviously sixty nine off Jerome form.

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Speaker 2: But we're near the bottom of the league in the

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Speaker 2: percentage of negative or no gain runs that we're allowing.

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Speaker 2: What why is that happening? Because it feels like when

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: we get things blocked up, well, we're very effective running

1303
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 2: the ball, but even on for example, Pierre Strong, anytime

1304
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: he could get to the line of scrimmage he picked

1305
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: up it felt like eight to thirteen yards. If he

1306
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: couldn't get to line of scrimmage, obviously he had a

1307
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: negative run. Why is that happening so often this season?

1308
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: And it's it's not just Nick Chubb because that was

1309
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: We're trending this way every year. We kind of been

1310
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: getting worse a little bit in terms of our negative

1311
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: runs and we're still good with explosive runs. Why are

1312
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: we getting someone of these negative runs?

1313
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 11: Well, I'm glad you clarified, because when you first described

1314
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 11: it was I was a little confused. We were near

1315
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 11: the bottom in not allowing negative runs. I was like,

1316
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 11: I don't even know what that means, but I think

1317
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 11: the issue is when you run a running scheme that's

1318
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 11: trying to get to the edges a lot of times,

1319
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 11: like outside zone or the pinpoll, when you're trying to

1320
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 11: get around people. Those are kind of outhouse or penthouse

1321
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 11: type runs. And I remember thinking back when Kyle Chanan

1322
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 11: was here and he first introduced us to the outside

1323
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 11: dome scheme. Mike Patton was the head coach, and obviously

1324
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 11: defensive minded head coach because that's where his backroun was,

1325
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 11: and defensive guys, they play like the game within the

1326
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 11: game almost too much, right. They think about every yard

1327
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 11: and every down and distance, and they don't care as

1328
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 11: much about hitting the home runs. They just want to

1329
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 11: make sure that you're not having any negative runs. And

1330
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 11: they don't like being behind the sticks. They don't like

1331
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 11: three and outs. It's kind of that old school mentality.

1332
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 11: And I remember Pet and Kyle would kind of go

1333
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 11: back and forth a little bit, because when you run

1334
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 11: outside a lot, you have to run sideways and it

1335
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 11: takes a lot longer to get to the line of scrimmage,

1336
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 11: so you do have a lot more negative runs. And

1337
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 11: I think if you look at all the teams that

1338
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 11: run predominantly outside zone or outside concepts. You're gonna have

1339
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 11: a lot more negative runs and teams that run inside

1340
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 11: and then just kind of slam it up in there.

1341
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 11: But I think the payoff is that teams have to

1342
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 11: play defense from sideline to sideline right, which opens up

1343
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 11: a lot more holes in the middle, and a lot

1344
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 11: of these runs are set up for explosive runs, which

1345
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 11: is a lot more damaging to a defense overall than

1346
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 11: just hitting a bunch of three and four yard runs,

1347
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 11: because it's really hard to go down the field with

1348
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 11: three and four yard runs making your way because eventually

1349
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 11: a defense is going to get a stop or going

1350
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 11: to force a sack or a big negative play or

1351
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 11: a pennel, and then the drives over if you have

1352
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 11: no ability to hit some explosive runs. So I think

1353
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 11: just the nature of our running scheme going to the

1354
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 11: sidelines more causes us to take more negative yard runs,

1355
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 11: and most defensive coaches hate negative runs, but I think

1356
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 11: offensive coaches realize if that's who you are, you have

1357
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 11: a much better chance of a having a lot more

1358
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 11: rushing yards during the game, b being a lot more

1359
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 11: dangerous because now defenses have to cover sideline the sideline,

1360
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 11: so they open up a lot more stuff in the middle.

1361
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 11: And see it opens up your passing game for explosive

1362
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 11: chunk plays because those defenses are concerned about that sideline,

1363
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 11: the sideline running game, and you're able to mesh what

1364
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 11: that sideline running game looks like with your play action

1365
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 11: pass a lot more smoothly than just your inside zone

1366
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 11: or your power concepts, which those play action schemes look

1367
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 11: nothing like the passes and the runs that you're trying

1368
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 11: to get to look together when you're running those in

1369
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 11: the same offense.

1370
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 9: Go back to a comment you made about Deshaun when

1371
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 9: you said, you know, when he does come back in there,

1372
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 9: who knows if he can be effective? And look, he hasn't.

1373
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 9: He hasn't played effective football in over a month. He's

1374
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 9: missed largely a month of practices. As you are an

1375
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 9: elite athlete like he is, how can you physically get

1376
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 9: right and mentally get right during an NFL season? What

1377
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 9: would what would you want if you were him in

1378
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 9: order to get back to your old self.

1379
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 11: Well, I think you need to feel better and go

1380
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 11: out and practice and be able to throw the ball

1381
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 11: around and make all the throws that you're used to making.

1382
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 11: I don't know, because you don't get to go to

1383
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 11: practice anymore during the season, how much he practiced and

1384
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 11: if he was limited to some of the throws in

1385
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 11: practice or what that look like, because I can imagine

1386
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 11: that he was probably out there in practice trying to

1387
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 11: get back out there and he probably couldn't make all

1388
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 11: the throws. And then that eats in that erode that

1389
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 11: your self comm and coming in same day and I'm

1390
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 11: sure you're thinking, Okay, in game day, I'm going to

1391
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 11: get a shot in my shoulder. I'm going to take

1392
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 11: some medicine so that I feel better, so that hopefully

1393
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 11: I can make those shows. But if you're limited from

1394
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 11: a muscular standpoint on being able to throw the football,

1395
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 11: because it's much more of an art throwing the football

1396
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 11: then you know, just smashing skulls with people and playing

1397
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 11: offensive line, which is more just about bullyball and technique.

1398
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 11: When you're dealing with throwing the football, you have to

1399
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 11: really feel good because otherwise it erodes that confidence, and

1400
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 11: an eroded confidence is going to leach into every part

1401
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 11: of your game. And like I mentioned earlier, then I

1402
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 11: think you're making decisions that you're wishing you didn't make

1403
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 11: because you're just not confident that you can throw the football.

1404
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 11: So for him to be able to get back to

1405
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 11: his confidence, I think it has to happen in practice.

1406
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 11: I think you need to see good practice days back

1407
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 11: to back where he's making all and he feels like, yeah,

1408
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 11: I am back to my old self. I'm back to

1409
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 11: the guy that played well against Tennessee. And I think

1410
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 11: that's when you've got an opportunity to get to Shawn

1411
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 11: out there and get him playing good football again. But

1412
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 11: I think if you rush him back where he has

1413
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 11: to play before he has a chance to go through

1414
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 11: a full practice and make all the throws, and then

1415
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 11: I think you're rolling the dice on what version of

1416
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 11: de Shawn you get on a Sunday.

1417
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a team that feels like it

1418
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: it has a chance, right, a little bit of a

1419
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: destiny feel. We've won games that we don't usually win,

1420
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: and you want to see this team get that good

1421
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: quarterback play so we can play this complimentary football. And

1422
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: it feels like we're kind of in limbo again this

1423
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: week as we head to Seattle and coming off of

1424
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: four and two, there are questions, you know, maybe more

1425
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: than answers at the most important position here. And you know,

1426
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: this is the thing that I think is hardhoff And

1427
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: I think what Bo was getting at is, you know,

1428
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: he did practice fully on Friday, and he did throw

1429
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: the ball fine, and then in the game like he

1430
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: didn't necessarily trust it under those auspices. So you know,

1431
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: you've played through a ton of stuff in your career.

1432
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: You are an iron Man ten three hundred and sixty three.

1433
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: We all know that. How did you mentally convince yourself

1434
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: that you were able to do what you needed to

1435
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: do as opposed to focusing on maybe what you couldn't

1436
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 2: do well.

1437
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 11: I think practicing on a Friday is a little bit

1438
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 11: different than practicing on Wednesday and Thursday because it's an

1439
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 11: abbreviated practice, and yeah, you try to hit all the

1440
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 11: different situations on a Friday, you're not really going through

1441
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 11: a full practice. And I have no idea how it

1442
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 11: was scripted. If Kevin was still thinking like, hey, you know,

1443
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 11: let's maybe hold back on some of these down the

1444
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 11: field concepts because you know, I don't want to test

1445
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 11: it too much, and you know we'll go out on

1446
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 11: Saturday and hit some of these. So I guess I

1447
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 11: don't really know fully what that looked like on that Friday,

1448
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 11: but I mean, I think it is going to be

1449
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 11: a little bit of a challenge getting the John to

1450
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 11: to the point where he is getting his confidence back

1451
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 11: in his shoulder, and it is going to have to

1452
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 11: end up being on a game day where he does

1453
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 11: feel that way, right, because doing it in practice is

1454
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 11: one thing, but you're always going to doubt yourself until

1455
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 11: you're able to do it on that game day.

1456
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, certainly. So Look, here's the reality. You needed to

1457
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 9: get to foreign two because Pittsburgh got to Foreign two.

1458
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 9: The Ravens got to five and two, and so you're

1459
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 9: gonna have to keep stacking these things as you look

1460
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 9: about what's happening around the league. One of the thing

1461
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 9: that happened around the league yesterday was last night the

1462
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 9: Eagles and the Dolphins, and Hoff among your many accomplishments,

1463
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 9: we can now add you can fix how to defend

1464
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 9: the tush push.

1465
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 8: Is that correct?

1466
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 11: That's right? And I'm surprised that nobody else has suggested this,

1467
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 11: because you know, it's the biggest conversation. And I'll tell

1468
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 11: circles right now, and you know, I think Peter King

1469
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 11: has been talking early on this season about how it

1470
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 11: needs to be outlawed and it's a disgrace to the

1471
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 11: game of football. And there's plenty of other people like

1472
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 11: that that are seeing that. They were mentioning how it's

1473
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 11: so easy, anybody could do it. But I think we've

1474
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 11: proved in the last few weeks as other kids have

1475
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 11: trying to do it, that it's very unique to the

1476
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 11: skill sets that the Eagles have with the guard center

1477
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 11: guard combination that they have on the inside and then

1478
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 11: the big quarterback that they have being able to kind

1479
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 11: of go over the top or whatever it takes. But

1480
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 11: I think what people forgot and the reason that I

1481
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 11: know so much about the double push or the triple

1482
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 11: push which used to be legal on field goal block

1483
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 11: when I was in the NFL was my rookie year.

1484
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 11: We went to go play against the Raiders and they

1485
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 11: on the last kick of the game, we were Phil

1486
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 11: Dawsin's lining up almost a fifty yard field goal to

1487
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 11: kick to win the game or at least take us

1488
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 11: to overtime. They can't remember what the score was, but

1489
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 11: the Raiders said, hey, we know you're not going to

1490
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 11: fake it, so we're going to put six guys over

1491
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 11: your right card, and it was basically three dudes lined

1492
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 11: up instances and then we had three guys behind them

1493
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 11: pushing their tush and they just completely pancaked and steamrolled

1494
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 11: our right guard. And then one of those dudes that

1495
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 11: ran through our line of defensive blocked till about and

1496
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 11: kick and they recovered it. We lost the game. Well,

1497
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 11: it's not something you can normally do because putting six

1498
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 11: guys over one guard obviously opens you up to a

1499
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 11: lot of take potential unless he col last play the game.

1500
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 11: But I kind of saw how powerful like pushing another

1501
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 11: player on his butt is. And if you watch the Eagles,

1502
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 11: like the reason they win successfully is because, first of all,

1503
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 11: like your linemen are low right and they get a

1504
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 11: little bit of a stalemate typically, And the Dolphins, if

1505
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 11: you watched the game last night, just basically kind of

1506
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 11: submarined underneath him, so it just became a stalemateround. Yeah,

1507
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 11: they just basically laid down the ground because they didn't

1508
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 11: want the Eagles to get up under them. Right, So

1509
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 11: now there's basically just carcasses laying on the ground. Well,

1510
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 11: Jalen Hurts is now on top of him, and he's

1511
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 11: not going to get down because the ground is covered

1512
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 11: your bedroom growing up with all of your dirty laundry, Like,

1513
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 11: there's nowhere for his knee to touch you down even

1514
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 11: if he wanted to. So now they got these huge

1515
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 11: guys behind they're basically just picking him up like a

1516
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 11: wheelbarrow and just gliding him over the top of these

1517
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 11: carcasses to the first down. So in order to stop it,

1518
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 11: you need to have a push push of your own

1519
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 11: fighting back in the other direction, and you need to

1520
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 11: get the guys on the edge to be able to

1521
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 11: knock off the pushers that are pushing the quarterback, because

1522
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 11: if you don't knock the pushers that are pushing Jalen hurts,

1523
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 11: there's no way he's going to get stopped, and there's

1524
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 11: no way he's gonna go down because you've got three

1525
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 11: human beings pushing and one person trying to stop him,

1526
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 11: maybe one and a half on defense. So as long

1527
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 11: as those guys in the edge run around and just

1528
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 11: tackle or knock off the pushers, then Jalen's not going

1529
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 11: to have somebody pushing him as he's just laying there

1530
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 11: with his lifeless body getting body syrved over the top

1531
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 11: of all these carcasses in front of him. I think

1532
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 11: that's the best way to stop him. And I hope

1533
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 11: that somebody reads my tweet and tries as a way

1534
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 11: to stop it, because right now everything that I've seen

1535
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 11: is not functioning, is not working, including trying to line

1536
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 11: up off side, which is want do try to do? Yeah?

1537
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 6: They certainly did.

1538
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like in they were practically past Kelsey's

1539
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: head on that one when they were lined up so

1540
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: far off sides on that one. Are you able to

1541
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: kind of as a Browns fan, kind of this roller coaster? Right?

1542
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: Teller said that he was on the roll as it was.

1543
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: Brother in law I think, said he was on a

1544
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 2: roller coaster, and he's like, I'm on the We were

1545
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: all on the big, the big coaster out there. These

1546
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 2: games are just so wild and how fun is it

1547
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: to see them go this way? I was trying to ascessarlier,

1548
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: but I asked two questions, which is a horrible job

1549
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: out of me. Then you answered the second one, which

1550
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: is what always happens. But I want to go back

1551
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 2: to that this doesn't happen to the Browns. These games

1552
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: are not won by the Cleveland Browns, and we are

1553
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 2: foreign too. Yes, we have questions. We've talked about that.

1554
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: But it's fun when these games go your way, because

1555
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: otherwise it would be devastating.

1556
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 11: Oh god, Pedro would be so disappointed in you asking

1557
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 11: two questions at once.

1558
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: I know that's all right. I'm mad at him anyway

1559
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: he sent me. But I'm like, hater go away would

1560
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: beat the Niners.

1561
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 11: Rater, hater, He's just mad about what happened to his

1562
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 11: forty nine ers. Yeah, I mean, what joy is on

1563
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 11: a Sunday to have this emotional roller coaster and feel

1564
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 11: good when it's over. We used to ride in the

1565
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 11: emotional roller coaster and the coaster derailed and all of

1566
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,839
Speaker 11: a sudden, you know, we hit our heads on the concrete.

1567
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 11: That's thick plagues or your roller coaster not uh so

1568
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 11: it is cool. I mean I was not around as

1569
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 11: a fan during the Cardiac kid there. I was too young,

1570
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 11: and I was probably a Packer fan by default growing

1571
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 11: up in Wisconsin at that point. But it's got to

1572
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 11: be how the fans felt back then. Right where you

1573
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 11: have this team that just is back and forth. Every

1574
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 11: game is a roller coaster. They know how to play

1575
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 11: with your emotions. But in the end, they find a

1576
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 11: way to win, and that's what you have to do

1577
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 11: in the NFL, Like these games are not always going

1578
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 11: to be pretty, but we've got to be able to

1579
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 11: find a way to win and kind to find a

1580
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 11: way to make your fans feel good at the end,

1581
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 11: and that's what brings us pure joy. And I'm happy

1582
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 11: that we were able to against the odds, including a

1583
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 11: moment where I thought the game was over when there

1584
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 11: was a sacrif and they recovered it. It was like,

1585
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 11: what thirty eight seconds left? I'm like, that's it. I

1586
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 11: turned to antego, the game's over, like we have no

1587
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 11: ability to stop the clock. Done feel late.

1588
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure on the broadcast we said it's over.

1589
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 9: It's not overread.

1590
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: It's not over.

1591
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 11: It wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. I

1592
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 11: love it fun man, This is a fun team, even

1593
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 11: though it's frustrating at times, especially because you know you're

1594
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 11: not getting that consistent offense, that output that would be

1595
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 11: really fun. But everybody just wants fields in life, right emotions,

1596
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 11: whether they're just or in different you just want fields

1597
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 11: like That's why people will listen to Skip Bayless in

1598
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 11: the morning because they want to get mad at them, right,

1599
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 11: But mad as a field and you get fired up

1600
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 11: with mad, right, That's why people are politic gets them

1601
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 11: all hot and bothered, right, and then team gets a

1602
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 11: hot and bothered, but then we're happy in the end.

1603
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 11: So I'm okay with it. Huh.

1604
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 9: Here's a this is I want to get you out

1605
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 9: of here on this one. In terms of people that

1606
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 9: you are close to, two had incredible weekends. So I

1607
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 9: don't know if you saw this or not. Michael Irvin

1608
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 9: used his time on his show on IRV the Great.

1609
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 9: IRV used his time on his show on Friday to

1610
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 9: go at his son, who is a rapper who acts

1611
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 9: like he's a gangster, and Michael is yelling at him.

1612
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 9: You grew up in a great community, so he used

1613
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 9: like BESO shows to go at his son.

1614
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 6: So that's that's one. And then the other one we had.

1615
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 9: We had our friend of ours, Bernie cozar It, posting

1616
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 9: a picture inexplicably with Taylor Swift at Travis Kelsey's house.

1617
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 9: So you know both of these entities very well, IRV

1618
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 9: and Bernie. Who had the better weekend?

1619
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 11: Ah, that's a great question. I think that Bernie had

1620
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 11: the better weekend because that, I feel like was the

1621
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 11: bigger upset. I know that Travis and Jason were big

1622
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 11: fans of Bernie and they've been friends for a long time,

1623
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 11: which I get it, Like, that's awesome. I'm very happy

1624
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 11: for them. Travis and Jason are amazing humans to invite

1625
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 11: Bernie over his phenomenal but I was shocked to see

1626
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 11: Taylor sit there like she is on a level of

1627
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 11: celebrity that I've never been around. Even Lebron The Okay,

1628
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 11: the Rock would be similar, but I wouldn't expect to

1629
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 11: see the Rock just like hanging out at somebody's house,

1630
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 11: even if it was his girlfriend's house, Like, don't seven

1631
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,919
Speaker 11: people don't hang out with commoners and we're all commoners.

1632
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 11: Compared to the level of stardom of Taylor Swift and

1633
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 11: the fact that she had the graciousness to take a

1634
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 11: couple of photos with the burn was awesome. I know,

1635
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 11: me as a Brown fan, I was showing extreme chestiness

1636
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 11: and pride after seeing those on social media. It was

1637
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 11: it was, It was good. I was happy for everybody there,

1638
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 11: and obviously I've got a lot of pride in Travis

1639
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,839
Speaker 11: Kelsey and specifically that he's from Cleveland. Because my daughters

1640
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 11: went to see the Taylor Swift movie on Friday, and

1641
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 11: so it was the best concert they ever went to,

1642
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 11: including my wife and my sister. They were like, it

1643
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 11: was one the best concert we've ever been to. Two

1644
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 11: as soon as it is over, I walked right outside

1645
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 11: and within two minutes I was in my car and

1646
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 11: the tickets were twelve dollars.

1647
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: This is great, this is this is a much better deal.

1648
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 11: It's going to go to. This is a way better

1649
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 11: deal than going to a real concert and being three

1650
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 11: hundred yards away from the stage and having to wait

1651
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 11: in line for two hours and pay fifty five dollars

1652
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 11: for you know, a thing of popcorn and.

1653
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah grand just to get in. She was printing money there.

1654
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 11: The box for your tickets. Amazing. And on top of that,

1655
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 11: no sorry, go ahead, I'm just no, no no about

1656
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 11: Taylor and Bernie. Go ahead.

1657
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 2: I love I love it. But I was going to say,

1658
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: after I saw that picture, I tweeted out, is this

1659
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: apex Bernie and I wanted to get your thoughts on it.

1660
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 9: The peak of Birdiekozer Taylor show. Definite do yourself a favor.

1661
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 9: When when we're done here. I want you to google

1662
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 9: IRVS accosting his son for acting like he's a gangster.

1663
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 2: Was he on the shows?

1664
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 6: On the show, he's no, no, no, no no, through

1665
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 6: the TV, through the TV to his son, saying, you.

1666
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: Grew up in a data tribunity. It's every level, it's

1667
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 2: had privilege.

1668
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 6: Un believable. So that's that's my gift.

1669
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 9: That's my gift to you. Hoff on a on a Monday,

1670
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 9: my friend. Enjoy that and thank you for being a

1671
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 9: gift to us. We appreciate your time as always, my friend.

1672
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 11: Lots of homework, guys, I appreciate it.

1673
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me on guys a haf Yes, And

1674
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 9: that was the Joe Thomas half hour of the program.

1675
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 9: We've got the great clips. It's going to be great

1676
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 9: clip of the game, will go around. He absolutely bonkers.

1677
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Speaker 9: more on that time. Now for our great clips. It's

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 9: gonna be a great clip of the game. Here's d

1691
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 9: hop from fifty eight.

1692
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 3: From the right hash well work haz kneels at the

1693
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 3: forty eight. It's gonna be a short approach trying to

1694
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: avoid the block. Hopkins from fifty eight gets it away.

1695
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 3: It is long enough, and it is good.

1696
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: It is good.

1697
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: That was good, and the hop the guy's a beast.

1698
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 2: It's really the only way you can say it. The

1699
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 2: guy is an absolute beast. And he has been so

1700
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 2: critical and the fact that we're four and two and

1701
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 2: I go back to it. That was one of the

1702
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 2: first seventh round pick. It's an unbelievable move by Andrew Berry.

1703
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 9: It's a well and here's the deal. It was necessary

1704
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 9: because everybody knows what's at stake.

1705
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: This year couldn't have been more necessary, right.

1706
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 9: And so that's why it is also necessary big picture

1707
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 9: throughout this week to get better quarterback play.

1708
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:33,919
Speaker 6: That is required.

1709
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 9: It's necessary because you're not going to continue to have

1710
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 9: the type of quite frankly football god luck we've had

1711
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 9: the last couple of times out correct, like, we have

1712
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 9: got to start dominating teams we're supposed to dominate.

1713
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 6: We'll take it. Four and two is a blast.

1714
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 9: Thank you Miles, thank you d Hop, thank you Kareem

1715
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 9: for scoring on the final teller for blocking his guide

1716
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 9: to Peoria, all of those things. But the reality is

1717
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 9: is that as this gets tougher, you're at Seattle this week,

1718
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 9: which will be a full day Arizona should be you

1719
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 9: should be able to handle that. You can't take anything

1720
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 9: for granted in this league. And then you're back into

1721
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 9: divisional games. So you've got to figure that thing out

1722
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 9: this week.

1723
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: You have two weeks and I think obviously, look there's

1724
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: no reason why you can't go to and No, but

1725
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: you got to split these next two and then you

1726
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: have Steelers Ravens back to back. Those two games are

1727
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 2: going to be monsters. I think it's actually Ravens. Then Steelers. Correct,

1728
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: those are going to be Those are monstrous. The next

1729
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 2: four games are monstrous. And if you can come out

1730
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: of them two and two, you're six and four going

1731
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: into the final seven. You are in a great, great spot.

1732
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: If you do better than that, you are all of

1733
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: a sudden, we've got it going. But we're not going

1734
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: to be able to do that unless we get better

1735
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 2: play as an offense and better play specifically at the

1736
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 2: quarterback position. And it's it's wild that this is where

1737
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 2: we are. Like if I four and two, everybody be

1738
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: pumped up right four and two through six. If this

1739
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: was the team that had Nick Chubb and Watson was

1740
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 2: playing solid football and all of that, you're thinking, we

1741
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: got it. We can go win the Super Bowl. Oh yeah,

1742
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 2: there still a lot of questions because ck Chubb is

1743
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: not coming back, and so it is it is paramount

1744
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: that the quarterback is good. And thus far we had

1745
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: one good game that was a month ago.

1746
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been a minute.

1747
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 9: And if you watched how much of the league did

1748
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 9: you were you guys able to pay Obviously you're doing

1749
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 9: your game and then you guys are laid out of purity.

1750
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 8: Much.

1751
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 2: I did not get to see much at all.

1752
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 7: It was.

1753
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 6: I think it was the most.

1754
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 9: It was the most backwards day of the league year

1755
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 9: to this point, the most backwards Sunday. I mean, it

1756
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 9: wasn't just covering scores, it was scores going backwards that

1757
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 9: happened over and over again. It was the Bears hammering

1758
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 9: the Raiders behind a kid who won the Harlan Hill

1759
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 9: Trophy as the Division two Player of the Year from

1760
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 9: the week before, had never played in an NFL game,

1761
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 9: and it was they bullied him. They won thirty to twelve.

1762
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 9: They dominated the entire way against the Raiders. Why did

1763
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 9: the Raiders start Brian Hoyre. I have no idea that's

1764
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 9: this thirteen straight losses a starting quarter. I have no

1765
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 9: idea why you would start him when you have eight O'Connell.

1766
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 9: I mean, like, see what the kid has.

1767
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 6: It's not like the reps are valuable for no like

1768
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:06,839
Speaker 6: it's it's completely worthless.

1769
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 9: I have no ka While on there, that game was wild.

1770
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 9: The Patriots the Bills. The Patriots are leading the entire game.

1771
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 9: The Bills score fifteen in the fourth and you think, okay,

1772
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 9: I mean the number on this was eight and a half.

1773
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 9: I thought that they would have handled that they didn't.

1774
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 9: But as you're as you're doing it, you say, okay,

1775
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 9: well they're going to go win. They're finally going to win.

1776
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 9: Oh no, mac Jones goes right down the field and

1777
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 9: New England, who was one in five coming in, goes

1778
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 9: down the field and wins twenty nine to twenty five.

1779
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 9: That one was absolutely crazy. The Giants dominated Washington dominate

1780
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 9: fourteen to seven. Washing got nothing offensively whatsoever. You could

1781
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 9: argue that the most stupefying one was thirty eight to

1782
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 9: six Ravens over Detroit. It was twenty eight nothing at half,

1783
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 9: thirty eight six as they stop, score stop, score stop,

1784
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 9: score stop, and that was it. Yeah, Lamar was sensational

1785
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 9: in this game. You're good, three fifties, no kidneys. I

1786
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 9: mean he was even beyond though. I mean it was

1787
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 9: three fifty seven, three scores and this one. And the

1788
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 9: other thing was is like Monkin was scheming guys wide open,

1789
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 9: like uncovered in the middle of the field.

1790
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 6: It was crazy.

1791
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: Twenty one of twenty seven for three fifty sevens. There

1792
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 2: was nobody thirteen yards in it.

1793
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 9: There were there were a half dozen plays where where

1794
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 9: Lamar is buying time in the pocket and throws to

1795
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 9: somebody and they start running. You're like, well, is there

1796
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 9: a defender anywhere? Where are the defenders? They're just It

1797
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 9: was absolute dominance out of Baltimore as they improved to

1798
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 9: five and two Pittsburgh. We talked about the most fortuitous

1799
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 9: spot you're ever going to get in that game against

1800
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 9: the Rams and then the team we played this week, Seattle.

1801
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 9: They beat Arizona twenty to ten, and then a fun

1802
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 9: one in the late afternoon, the Chiefs beat the Chargers

1803
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 9: thirty one to seventeen. That was crazy because it starts

1804
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 9: with Bernie and Taylor Swift at Travis Kelsey's house and

1805
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 9: then Kelsey goes nuts in the game moments. Yeah, mahomes

1806
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 9: four twenty four, four touchdowns, Kelsey twelve for one seventy

1807
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 9: nine and a touchdown in that one.

1808
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,520
Speaker 8: Can we also talk about the Broncos somehow beating the Packers.

1809
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 2: One of my few wins. Those two teams suck. They

1810
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: both really, they are dreadful. The Chargers are like, they

1811
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 2: got to fire everybody.

1812
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 6: Well they go to fire him.

1813
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 9: Now, you cannot waste anymore your six games in you're

1814
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 9: two and four. You can't can't continue on this on

1815
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 9: this path.

1816
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 2: This one, I got to watch a little bit of

1817
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 2: why don't they throw the ball to Austin Heckler anymore?

1818
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler was like a receiving stud for them. Palmer

1819
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 2: had a nice game. I don't know. Herbert just looked

1820
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 2: he was under duress a lot. I think got sex

1821
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: five times in it. That one I got to watch

1822
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: a little bit. The Chiefs were just toying with them

1823
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 2: Kelsey's I mean, we're getting stats Kelsey with Taylor Swift

1824
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 2: and tents without Taylor Swift, Like what are what? What

1825
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 2: are we doing? But he put on a show. She's

1826
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: at the house with Burne and then he put on

1827
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: a show. So maybe does that get Bernie? And is

1828
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 2: Bernie invited to the house for pregame every week?

1829
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 11: Now?

1830
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 6: Why not? Might as well? Why who's stopping him?

1831
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 9: And then the Eagles and the glorious Kelly Greens against

1832
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 9: Miami and take care of business that that you can.

1833
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 6: I just would push back.

1834
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 9: I don't push back on the Hof often, and he

1835
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 9: may have a plan for slowing that thing down. But

1836
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 9: I do think the one thing on that that is automatic,

1837
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 9: that is I don't know the one thing I think

1838
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 9: the one thing that is that is automatic, and the

1839
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 9: one thing that it's hard to put perspective on is

1840
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 9: Jason Kelsey gets so low and is so explosive, and

1841
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts might be the strongest lower bodied quarterback in

1842
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 9: the league, and so hurts his ability. All the rest

1843
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 9: of those things happen, the pushing, all of that, but

1844
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 9: Hurts is so strong in the lower body that he

1845
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 9: gets forward momentum at snap and there is in that

1846
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 9: sense no stopping.

1847
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 2: It can squat six pounds.

1848
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 9: So he's driving, he's d and he's following Kelsey, and

1849
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 9: so he's got this all pro borderline Hall of Fame

1850
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 9: center could be a Hall of Famer by dem Alsa

1851
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 9: and done who he's following him. And then he is

1852
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 9: the strongest quarterback in the league in the lower body.

1853
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 9: The combination of the two make it. I agree with

1854
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 9: Dick Sirianna who said yesterday a lot of people would.

1855
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: Like to do with this, they just can't do it

1856
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: as well as we do, right, And I think their

1857
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: quarterback is a big reason why they're sure able to

1858
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 2: do it. They play a different game. They start every

1859
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 2: they play first and eight and a half. They didn't

1860
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 2: play first and ten, they play first and eight and

1861
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: a half, they've got to get eight and a half

1862
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: yards and three plays and they get a first down.

1863
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, because and there were several times when they were

1864
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 9: iceing the game last night where they just they ran

1865
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 9: that on fourth and one on one drive twice and

1866
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 9: it's automatic every time.

1867
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 2: Automatic. And DeAndre Swift I feel like it's tackled inside

1868
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 2: of the one yard line more than anybody in the NFL.

1869
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: And then oh my god, it's crazy because and you

1870
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 2: know he's not getting the ball most like, oh they're

1871
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: down to the one. My running back's gonna score.

1872
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, here's Jalen for another one.

1873
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 2: They don't even pretend like they don't going to run.

1874
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: I think it's known. I think it's not.

1875
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 9: It's also bought to Smith doesn't do much. It's like

1876
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 9: all Brown College and Goddard, Yeah, Goddard. It's strange the

1877
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 9: way that they're going about their business. We got a

1878
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 9: score for tonight. Coming up Nextuals to Cleveland Brown's Daily

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Speaker 6: We do have Monday Night football tonight. It is the

1887
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Speaker 6: forty nine Ers at Vikings Gibbe.

1888
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Speaker 8: We're at Yesoda, forty nine ers visiting Minnesota, the best

1889
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Speaker 8: stadium in the National Football League.

1890
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Speaker 2: Nor last time the Niners fat the Vikings at Minnesota.

1891
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Speaker 2: Steve Young was the quarterback.

1892
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 6: Can you please that's that's how he salts the wound.

1893
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 2: Can I just tell you something? I mentioned it earlier,

1894
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 2: I alluded it.

1895
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 8: You told me on the bus.

1896
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 6: I was not happy with him, the scholarship that he is.

1897
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 2: Sue. Sue sends the nicest text. He was not what

1898
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 2: it is. So we're in the booth.

1899
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 8: Game ends, Game ends. Ceciliano's getting text from his family

1900
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 8: like love it, Like his mom's in Italy, like all

1901
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 8: this stuff. The girl's like, yeah, I got a text

1902
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 8: with my dad telling me how lucky we are because

1903
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:29,440
Speaker 8: of bad officiating.

1904
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: Goes wow. Two weeks in a row with ridiculous help

1905
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 2: from the refs. Second p I calls of sert ketchup

1906
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 2: ball off, he's nine feet telt. Maybe good win, though, how.

1907
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 6: Did you end it?

1908
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 9: I think for the audience like to understand how you

1909
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 9: became such a pure joy human out of that yoke

1910
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 9: as a remarkable it is so.

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Speaker 2: I wrote back, I wrote back, hater. He sends me

1912
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: an article saying that Gibson didn't even get fined for

1913
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: his hit. He said the NFL din't was a pellety

1914
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 2: two games. He goes not hater, factual observer.

1915
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 6: A factual observer when the facts match up with his beliefs.

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01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 9: Correct is the way that that one when not he

1917
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 9: creates the fact that he creates or finds somebody who

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Speaker 9: have similar facts.

1919
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 2: I got the Niners, who knows, it's been a brutal week,

1920
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: been brutal. I think that's why I think the Niners

1921
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: bounce back. I'm gonna take the Vikings to get cover

1922
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 2: city inside.

1923
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 6: Of the number. All Right, there you go, kids.

1924
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 2: That way, one of us can win the week. Somebody

1925
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: can win at least has no winning. I think the

1926
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 2: best case scenario for either one of us is to

1927
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 2: go five and eight.

1928
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 6: It's off.

1929
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 2: That's the best case.

1930
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 6: That's the best case.

1931
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 2: So one of us will.

1932
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Speaker 6: Now one of us will.

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Speaker 11: So there you go.

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Speaker 9: Well, get a lot of victories for you kids, but

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Speaker 9: the next level is coming up next. We're back tomorrow,

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