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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bud meets Twirld, a podcast that once chronicled

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Speaker 1: two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 1: but watched a season and walked away experts. From there,

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Speaker 1: we ventured into Traders, a show I'd never seen, but

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Speaker 1: Will swore he could win, and now survivor season fifty,

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Speaker 1: the Big One, and this time the roles of reverse.

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Speaker 1: Will has seen exactly one season, the first one. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: I've watched for years. We are wilfrid L, who prefers

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Speaker 1: his wilderness with room service, and Right or Strong, who

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Speaker 1: will hike any mountain, but man, I hate the beach.

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Speaker 1: Two best friends, one devoted to the comforts of civilization

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Speaker 1: and one who would never leave the woods if he could.

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Speaker 1: Both reality competition scholars join us as we dive into alliances, blindsides,

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Speaker 1: fire making, sand related misery, and twenty five years of

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Speaker 1: television history culminating in a single massive season. This is

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Speaker 1: Pod meets Twirled Seeking Immunity.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot, well, speaking of a lot, it's been

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Speaker 2: quite a day in the reality world, hasn't it, my friend?

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, we should we should talk about the elephant.

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Speaker 2: In the room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the piece the room, the easiest way to

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Speaker 1: just say it. We were all set. We had already

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Speaker 1: announced on the uh, the twitters and the Instagrams that

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Speaker 1: we were gonna fold actually double up our reality watching

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Speaker 1: and go right into The Bachelorette, because the fans have

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Speaker 1: demanded that we keep watching shows that we know nothing about,

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Speaker 1: or at least one of us in this case, neither

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Speaker 1: of us have ever seen a single episode of The

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Speaker 1: bachelorret and and yet they canceled the entire season, thank god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was and not without you know, by the

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Speaker 1: time ABC had canceled it, we had already decided to

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Speaker 1: pull our show. Yeah, after much back and forth and

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Speaker 1: handwringing and concern and not just don't have clarity in

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Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, it's tricky, but it seems like in

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Speaker 1: general she is not a very good person, and reality

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Speaker 1: shows that celebrate not great people are not cool.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree, And it's yeah again, this is a

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Speaker 2: world that you and I know very little about reality,

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Speaker 2: these There's a reason it's called reality. Whether it's quote

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Speaker 2: unquote scripted reality or heavily produced reality. These are real people,

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Speaker 2: So real people come with lots of baggage. Some of

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Speaker 2: them it's a minimum amount of baggage, some of them

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Speaker 2: it's a kind of a disgusting amount of baggage. The

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Speaker 2: thing that is starting to come out more and more though,

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Speaker 2: is what the networks actually know about these people before

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Speaker 1: Air, or don't know right or don't know.

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Speaker 2: But in this case, it seems like ABC knew quite

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Speaker 2: a bit about this woman before they decided to pull

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Speaker 2: the trigger on what I think is their biggest franchise

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Speaker 2: by far. I think The Bachelor and the Bachelorette is

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we've talked about the you know, the

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Speaker 1: Snooky got punched. That was the turning moment for that

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Speaker 1: this is something I've wrestled with, you know, even doing

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Speaker 1: you know, we've had great interviews with Ben Mendelker and

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Speaker 1: And I've I've come around to see a lot of

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Speaker 1: there's still a little bit of exploitation and exaggeration and

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Speaker 1: uh shodden fuer mm hmm. Oh yeah, you know, one

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Speaker 1: And then even like a Loan, which is about survival,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, now I get that too. But the

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Speaker 2: Snookie thing. The thing that was really interesting about the

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Speaker 1: The next time they aired it they showed him punching

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Speaker 2: So it was it was really interesting the way they

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Speaker 1: Well see, that's kind of my problem is that I

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Speaker 2: So I was gonna say, look at social media now,

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Speaker 2: I mean, so much silence and flat out watch murder.

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Speaker 1: So that you have produced UFC is is kind of that, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that I remember when UFC. I know, I

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Speaker 2: The UFC especially was before there were any rules when

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Speaker 1: Alex and I were in New York. Actually, she was

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's strange. I do have a bit

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Speaker 2: I noticed she had a new partner last week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hoping that she will come back to Yeah

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Speaker 2: Maybey really make this a good show? Seem like seemed

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Speaker 1: What will she knew things about Survivor? So it was

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Speaker 1: I know things about Survivor. I think you were magical

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Speaker 1: rewinding somewhere. No, I was.

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Speaker 2: It was my mom's eighty fifth birthday. I was back

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Speaker 2: in Connecticut, so yeah, I was travel that one past.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you better.

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Speaker 2: There's something else I'd like to bring up, which I

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Yeah? Are you sure you're ready? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You got the pants. I got the pants. My friend,

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Speaker 1: I've had so many messages from people who's not on

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Speaker 1: social media. Get him the pants.

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Speaker 2: I got him. I am wearing my Survivor pants as wee.

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Speaker 1: Now, you just got to get Jonathan's body. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: good luck with steroids. Ye, he's a giant.

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Speaker 2: It's like, seriously, there's fables written stories, fables written about that,

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Speaker 2: like a he Man figure.

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Speaker 1: Yes, like he looks exactly like the he Man figures.

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Speaker 1: He does, he does. He's like he's man at arms,

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Speaker 1: like his head. She's been around. And because they all

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Speaker 1: Made figures and they weren't like body like bodybuilders have

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Speaker 1: gotten even crazier. But he Man was just like those

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Speaker 1: perfect alpha body That's exactly what he is. Every time.

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Speaker 2: Show me that the idea that she said, I haven't

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Speaker 1: Show me all that we talked about this day one, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, it's like a culmination of all the years.

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Speaker 2: We're going back and watching our show from thirty years

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Speaker 1: So I was, yes, I was. I was interviewed about

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Speaker 1: my other podcast, The Red Weather. Please go Red Wether

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Speaker 2: You just you just but you just put a new

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Speaker 2: It's got to be called Fanstalgiaanstalgia.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. I'll figure it out. Let's do Survivor.

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Speaker 1: Let's do Survivor. Episode four Q has been voted out.

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Speaker 1: But it would be And I told you so too.

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00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 1: I told you so from Ozzie could have gone along

434
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: because no, I agree. I agree.

435
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 2: It's like how you know you it's what the what

436
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 2: what Ben told us about traders was a Ben or

437
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 2: chat I told us where it's like keep keep the

438
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 2: person you know who's a trader there the whole time

439
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 2: until the end, and then vote himut where it's like, yeah,

440
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 2: keep the people that are going to help you with

441
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 2: the heavy ship, keep.

442
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: Them there for a while. Yes, But over at the

443
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 1: other tribe, you also want to keep your talented talent

444
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: show people. Wow, Okay, what's what's the number one rule

445
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 1: about when you know your impression is horrible, don't do

446
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: it when you have to say who you're doing exactly

447
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: like you, I can't do it. You can do it?

448
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, there's Mickey's up here. So you got high.

449
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm Mickey Mouse.

450
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 2: If you have yes, I'm Mickey Mouse. Don't you get it? Hey,

451
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 2: it's me. Look at Goofy and Pluto, they're and my

452
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 2: dogs and stuff.

453
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: It's you're like, yeah, you're talking to me.

454
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

455
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: Are you talking to me? Robert? I'm funny? How I'm funny?

456
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: How funny? How that's so true? Number one rule of impressions.

457
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: If you got to say the name, it's not doing

458
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: it good. Not good. So I would have given it

459
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: to the wrestlers because I thought that was cool. Yeah,

460
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: the fake punching and all that stuff was great. I meanwhile,

461
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: over at Callo coaches getting his hair braided. It's a

462
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: beautiful braid. She was like, I'm good.

463
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm good at Whoever that person was was like, man,

464
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: I'm really good at braid.

465
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 1: That's what happened?

466
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: Was it? Yet?

467
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know who it was. I don't know

468
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll get there, we'll get it and now.

469
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 2: And it's like, right when I start to learn somebody's name,

470
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 2: they switched the tribes and it's like, okay.

471
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna wait till the last three. They

472
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: are really not re emphasizing their characters because they assume

473
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: that you've seen them. Right. It's a hard season, dude, Yeah, yeah,

474
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: you came in on a tough season. I get it.

475
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 1: Aubrey is the one that's the outcast, the sort of

476
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: nerdy girl who's worried so and she's looking for idols

477
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: when Genevieve is suddenly calling out for her and she's like,

478
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: my god, leave me alone. But she has a billy idol.

479
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 1: Aubrey does that. Yeah, she's gifted.

480
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and nobody's called it billy idle yet how is

481
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: that possible? In four episodes nobody's called it billy idle?

482
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: Yet no one has your brain? No, I probably wouldn't have.

483
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: So sad, so sad this generation. Genevieve then goes and

484
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: finds another Billie Eilish idol, which I can't even keep

485
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: track of these anymore? Is this now? I thought?

486
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so question are there are all these idols gonna

487
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 2: be billy idols or do you get different types of

488
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: irregular idolhole?

489
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I thought maybe this would finally

490
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: just be a regular idol, but it was Billy eilish idol.

491
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: So I guess maybe that's just the way the season's

492
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: gonna work.

493
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: On different seasons, though, Do different idols do different things?

494
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, they always have a type of idol, and

495
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: I think it. The question for me is that I

496
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: don't I can't answer, is are they only one type

497
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: of idol for the whole season, right? I'm not sure.

498
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: I feel like there have been different types of idols,

499
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: But there's also just been times where they don't even

500
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: find an idol, They only find a clue, and then

501
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: that clue becomes an advantage, and then the advantage might

502
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: lead them to an idol. That's cool.

503
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: I like that.

504
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: Oh there's tons of dude, they've had to like dig up,

505
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: like they've had to like in your like there. Like

506
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: some of the funnest is when it's like a treasure hunt.

507
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: So it will be like if in your main camp

508
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: something is hidden but you only can see it if you,

509
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: you know, go here and then they were like in

510
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: front of everybody having to like dig something up and

511
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: taught stuff like that. I love that stuff. I love

512
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: that in plain sight on traders, it's like that they

513
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: have to find the idol. I love it. And that's

514
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: like super national treasure kind of stuff right underneath where

515
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: everyone's getting their water, so you have to like come

516
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: back for it later or you know, yeah, super cool, dude.

517
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: I like that. And so this I was a little,

518
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: honestly just disappointed to see the Billie Eilish idol comebacks maybe,

519
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: but I will say the way she played it is

520
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: super interesting. Did you did you capture her whole strategy

521
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: with this? What do you mean? Well, so she's gonna

522
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 1: give it to Rizzo, right so that then when they

523
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: can come back together, she can tell him I gave

524
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: that to you. We're in an alliance together because I

525
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: gave that to you. But then.

526
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: She gets her super smart it's actually the super smartest

527
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: way to use the boomerang eye, which I had not

528
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 2: thought that through until she said that.

529
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's the smartest thing to do.

530
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: It's it's but I thought you had to give it

531
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: to somebody in a different tribe. Did but she knows

532
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: that she's gonna then play him later.

533
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, because it's it says something like it.

534
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: It doesn't it's not active until there's like five people

535
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: left something like that.

536
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: There was something like five people left merged. At some point,

537
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: they're going to merge the tribes. So if he makes

538
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: it to the end, he could still have the idol

539
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: with her. She already has an idol, right, because she

540
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: has one that somebody. Oh, no, she found another one.

541
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: You did it to Ozzie. She gave it to Ozzie.

542
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: So she's gonna come together and be like, Ozzie, I

543
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: gave you yours, Rizzo, I gave you yours, and she

544
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: seems she can turn on Rizzo and get it for herself.

545
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: Mark And I think the other thing is because it

546
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: looks like, uh, there's clearly a disconnect between Rizzo and

547
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: the other dude, the other young guy.

548
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: Charlie Charlie.

549
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: And so I think one of the other things with

550
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: the Billie idol is if you're voted out and it's

551
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: still in your pocket, it reverts back to the person

552
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: that found it, so you can do it again.

553
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: That's what I'm no.

554
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: She's going to be doing it, but she doesn't even

555
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: have to vote him out like his his own tri right,

556
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: and then if he doesn't play it, then then she

557
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: gets it back at it.

558
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's weirdly you want to pick somebody

559
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: who's targeted. That's why Aubrey was a good choice for

560
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: the other you know other smart yeah, smart. All right.

561
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: Then we go to this immunity challenge. And the second

562
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: I saw this thing, because they have done this in

563
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: the past, I was like, oh God, because this is

564
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: one of the hardest immunity challenges. Like there's sunken boat.

565
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: The boat is so heavy. I'm just like, and that's

566
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: why I was immediately like, they're going to regret regret

567
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: boating not sucks mane. Every time they've had this, it's

568
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: like or maybe they've only had it once, but I

569
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: remember it for being just like the most grueling, horrible,

570
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: uh horrible challenge.

571
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: To watch, but really this is something like this becomes

572
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 2: more effective as a viewer if I know how hungry

573
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: they are at this point, if I understand that they've

574
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: been my god, I didn't eat today, We've had nothing.

575
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: I had a handful of rice, and now I have

576
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: to push a boat. Then I get it more because

577
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there as a viewer who doesn't know how

578
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: hungry they are because they're not playing any of this stuff.

579
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm just supposed to assume, and I'm like, well, why

580
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: is that one team not able to push the boat

581
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: at all? Why can that?

582
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 2: You know?

583
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: The other? Well, Jeff says that he keeps saying like

584
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: after not eating you no during yeah, but during he

585
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: was also like, but also like watching how happy they

586
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: are to eat food when they get that's yes, that's

587
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: what I mean.

588
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: It means so much more if you they play into

589
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 2: the hunger and there no food in my cat.

590
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: I think there's just an assumption that you've seen enough

591
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: survivor who knows. I know I didn't. So we get

592
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: this whole guessing game of what the special guest who's

593
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: coming to the island is. Is this normal? Do they

594
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: normally bring people on the island? Okay? Nope, never seen

595
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: this before? Okay, and uh, you know, I thought it

596
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: was cool. But it went on a long time. I mean,

597
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: this was like twenty five minutes of the episode was

598
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: like this Zach Brown special, which sh okay, like, I

599
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: don't I have no reason to break around. But I

600
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: did not need to see a commercial of free or

601
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: like a music video of him spearfishing and then playing

602
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: like three songs? Does he play three songs? I think

603
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: I was just definitely like all right, and they're good songs.

604
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: Like I was like, yeah, I should check out his music.

605
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: But those are also incredibly long fins. Did you notice

606
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: how long his fins were when he got on the

607
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: ocean spear he was spearfishing with a bazuka?

608
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: He did, I mean, neither of fins? Okay, sorry, sorry,

609
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: you're right. Your reward is that this guy's gonna catch

610
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: you fish and play music. And at this point I

611
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they're going to catch the fish for

612
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: him and say he caught it, which glad to see

613
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. I was impressed at the show didn't

614
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: just manipulate us, actually showed him fishing, all right. So

615
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: then Serie sits out, Genevieve sits out a little moment.

616
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't know when Genevieve gets to be the one

617
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: that sits out where I thought maybe Aubrey was a

618
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: little pissed. She like turned in. It was like the

619
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: quickest thing. I didn't go back, but if any of

620
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: our listeners thought the same thing, because you know, obviously

621
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: the Genevieve Aubrey. Uh, there's a rivalry. They're really really

622
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: leaning into here. And then they start the thing. Ozzy,

623
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: last one in the water, first one of the platform,

624
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: because he is he's a superman's yeah, he's a dolphin. Yes, yeah.

625
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: Then they have to untie these buckets with the knots.

626
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, not the knots. Not climbing things to

627
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: untie things. That's all I would do to study.

628
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: I would just climb thing and untie something, climb, swim, swim, swim,

629
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: and then and climb something yep, exactly, yeah, yeah.

630
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: And then just pushing these these boats. Like it's just

631
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: looks so hard, so miserable, unless you're Jonathan who flipped

632
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: the thing over by himself, the thing over by himself.

633
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: Have you dumping?

634
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: I mean, just now, what do you think the chances

635
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: are that a good portion of his power and strength

636
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: comes from his pants, which I now have.

637
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: We'll see you think next week you'll be like pushing

638
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: ship recks out.

639
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if like, is it become is there a

640
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: superhuman power in the pastors? Yeah, I'm just wondering I

641
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: might be very much stronger than you coming soon because

642
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: of the pants is all on.

643
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Wait, I can't wait. Let's have a challenge. My friends

644
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: have a challenge. Flip over a boat, untie some ship.

645
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: Do you remember the one time we tried to play basketball? No,

646
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean besides on Boyme's World, which we did with

647
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: the Home Improvement kids. Yeah, you and our brothers, your

648
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: brother Greg and my brother Shallow try to play basketball

649
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: in West Hollywood. You don't remember this. God, When our

650
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: brothers were living together in West Hollywood, we were like

651
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: we should, uh, we should play some basketball. We were like, yeah.

652
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: We lasted fifteen minutes and that I just remember you

653
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: red face sweated, me unable to breathe it. He could

654
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: just be like, all right, we're done. I probably had

655
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: to seeah, I probably had to stop to smoke a cigarette.

656
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: We would not do well in Survivor by no, my god.

657
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: And that was when we were like twenty eight, not

658
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: even like I was even younger. Oh that's awesome.

659
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm glad I blank that out. Oh my god, Hey,

660
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm in shape, rounds of shape.

661
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So Callo wins Sila's and second and

662
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: Vatsu is just destroyed yet again, and they're so exhausted

663
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: and defeated. Just watching them crawl out of the night

664
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: was like the saddest thing in the world.

665
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: Well, that was the thing they finished. One team was done,

666
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: already back at their camp listening to music. The other

667
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: team was done, had built the sand castle, was all

668
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: having fun. The third team was still in the net

669
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: like you. They cut to it and it was like,

670
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, they're still in the net. I felt

671
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: so bad, horrible, And Mike.

672
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: White just just he aged about fifteen years in the

673
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: course of this episode. He did like Jess calls him

674
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: out at a very tribal and it's like, yeah, you

675
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: he gets this like far away look in his eyes

676
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: where he's just like, you're out of it, dude, like

677
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: looking a little rough there. Bro. Yeah it was, it was, Yeah,

678
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: it was. They were all just white. I also love it.

679
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: It's really that I noticed it in this episode only

680
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: once or twice they call him Mike.

681
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: They always call him Mike White. They always called him

682
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: Mike White the whole time. Yeah, really weird. So at

683
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: the Sanctuary, which is this is where they get to

684
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: go for their rewards. If they get food and it's

685
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: just heaven on earth for everybody because like you see them,

686
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: they're just like tubs.

687
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh also though, one of the things too, when

688
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: I were talking about was a you're in the sun

689
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: a whole lot with no calories in you.

690
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: You start drinking, you're gonna get hammered. I know I

691
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: would never do that. I would you never know and

692
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: be wasted.

693
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna eat too much and there's a good chance

694
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: you're also gonna have some serious gastro intestinal problems.

695
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: And that's happened. I've seen, They've seen, They've shown people

696
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: like throwing up. How could you not because you go

697
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: from nothing to essentially gorging. You gotta take it easy, Yeah,

698
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: you gotta take it easy. Yeah, it was. But this

699
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: is why I would starve myself before ever going out there. Yes,

700
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: I would be like I would be on I would

701
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: be fasting and working out like for weeks just to

702
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: build your your bodies, like get your body used to that,

703
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: because yeah, the survivor diet. All right. Uh. Then it

704
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: becomes this commercial for Zach Brown's awesomeness watching him jump

705
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: into the water with this like bazooka spear that I

706
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: was just like, what have you ever been spearfishing? I

707
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: have not, Okay, I've been spearfishing, but you do it

708
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: like like OZI does it with like a sling, which

709
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: is like a stretchy goes and like one little and

710
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: you just like it almost like looks like an automatic rifle.

711
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: It relad But then he catches a fish that is

712
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: bigger than anything. Yeah to Tuna, oh my god, that

713
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: was insane.

714
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: And how he's talking about how he's like, you got

715
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: to get it in because the sharks are coming.

716
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: He's like, oh my god, that's crazy. But it happened

717
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: to me.

718
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: Did you notice though that it looked like every single

719
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: one of his tattoos he had done yesterday. Oh, like

720
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: they were all bright and fact like I have tattoos

721
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: and there's some I forget I have. And I look

722
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: at him like, oh my god, I can't believe he

723
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: can even still see the ink his They looked like

724
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: he was just yes, like every six months he go

725
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: gets them redone.

726
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Because they clearly wanted to make zact brown look awesome,

727
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: so they might have just given him a little color correct.

728
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: He looked pretty awesome. Though, he looked pretty awesome. Yeah,

729
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: I was doing, dude, the one shark ing counter I've

730
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: ever had with spearfishing, and that's exactly you it ate fish. Well,

731
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I was going with my buddy who's

732
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: like a big spear fisher. He got in the Bahamas

733
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: and he you know, I did two trips with him,

734
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: and I only ever got a lobster because I can't

735
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: hit ship as you walk up and just knock it

736
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: on the head. No, they're in the they're under it,

737
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: like you have to find them under rocks, like in

738
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: the core, like you have to find low under So

739
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I found him in a little thing, but he's not moving.

740
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: Ye.

741
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: So that was my big spear fishing moment catching. I

742
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: think I got two lobster, but he got a you know.

743
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: And it was so funny because like before we went,

744
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: he's like, stay com if we see sharks, it's not

745
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: that big of a deal, you whatever, And I was like, okay, okay,

746
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm terrified of sharks of course. And

747
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: then we get in the water and he got a fish.

748
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: So he's got a fish in the end of and

749
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: nothing like the size of Zach Brown's like a regular

750
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: size little fish. It's like cool, we're gonna get sushi, like,

751
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, if we get four more of these, we

752
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: have a meal. It's men. And and then I see

753
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: a shark and it's you know, not huge, but it's

754
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: a freaking shark. Yes, and it's dark swimming towards us.

755
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: Oh God, and my buddy like pops up out of

756
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: the water and where he's up about it, and I

757
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: pop up and he's talking to me. I forget what

758
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: he was saying, and I'm just like trying to stay calm.

759
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: My heart's racing. I know the shark is coming towards

760
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: us of the water, and I'm like, he's so okay,

761
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: and I don't want to interrupt him, but you, uh,

762
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: did you saw the shark right? And he's like what

763
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: he looks down and the shark is like coming right

764
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: because he's a bleeding fish. So then he the shark

765
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: comes right out of me. He like dives away and

766
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: has to give give the shark the fish because the

767
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: shark was like actually coming. Oh and god, you know

768
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: that he was bleeding down his hand from the spear,

769
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: so he just like turned it over and like pushed

770
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: the fish off and let the let the shark get

771
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: the fish. And then he was like, well, writer, you

772
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: were a little too calm. He will do this dude

773
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: who was fine with a freaking shark.

774
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: No, no, thank you, No, it'll be Nobu for me,

775
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

776
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. It was pretty cool though. We were

777
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: literally came out sushi every night, like we would catch

778
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: fish and then just have sushi. It was delicious. Oh

779
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: so much fun. Uh anyway, not as good as Zach Brown. No,

780
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: that guy's a monster. And then you know they have

781
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: this incredible meal after he like carves it up for them,

782
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: and then they get a private concert, which reminded me

783
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: of Boy Meets World, where I was awkwardly staring at

784
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: the Nobody's Angels performing this day with my face. They

785
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: had a much better concert that that. They were clearly

786
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: actually I was like, oh, what would I have been like?

787
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: I would have actually been I love his voice.

788
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: Oh he's not into country music, but I will certainly

789
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 2: listen to him. He seems like he's a good guy.

790
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: He seemed like he was a big fan. The man's

791
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: got phenomenal fins. So yeah, this was Uh, I'm a fan.

792
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: I'll check it out all right Over at Cela Dee

793
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: was crying she's a big Zach Brown fawn. Ok yeah,

794
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: and then Rizzo gets his his idol that he's been

795
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: gifted from the Billie idol and thinks he is best.

796
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: Like I've told every.

797
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: Season, it's like if you played too, yeah, and somebody

798
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: also gave this to you.

799
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: He didn't find anything. I'm one of the better players

800
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: to ever play this game. And I'm like, you are

801
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: so twenty five right now.

802
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 2: Man.

803
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I do like him and and Sophie it was on

804
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: with me last week, said she they're like best friends,

805
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: and okay, she's she was so cool and she's like,

806
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: he's a genuinely great guy. I believe her. I believe

807
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: that he is a good guy.

808
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: I'd ask that you not mention her anymore. Okay, okay,

809
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: let's not bring her up. Okay, my new co host, hey,

810
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: f so pain.

811
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: She was actually probably really upset that you weren't here.

812
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: We'll we'll just have her back on.

813
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: I wore new pants for you to try to get

814
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: it to get.

815
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: Back, bring her back. I've got I've got something performance

816
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: as we go on, and especially the fact that she

817
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: brought he brought her up in the episode that we

818
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: were or that she was on to recap with me.

819
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: I have a feeling like Rizzo's gonna you know, there's

820
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 1: gonna be some drama late later on that we would

821
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: love to have her way in on.

822
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: Okay, question is is Survivor like it seems like in

823
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: Traders when somebody mentions your name, your your moments up,

824
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: like you're you're the countdown has started for you being

825
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: kicked off? Is it kind of the same on Survivor

826
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: because now his debt, Charlie or whatever his name is,

827
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: now he's like, I'm getting this dude off. Is that

828
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 2: usually the start of like we're gonna get somebody off.

829
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's also editing, right, Like they could be

830
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: bringing up people constantly and just yeah showing them. But

831
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: they've clearly planted the seeds for a rivalry here because

832
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: they reiterated that this episode and it has nothing to

833
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: do with this episode. So when you see that kind

834
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: of editing where they brought it back up, played it out,

835
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: I bet you next episode that rivalry is gonna really

836
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: come or four episodes down the line, right they are

837
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: They clearly plant these seeds for the whole season. Makes sense,

838
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: makes sense, you know, it makes sense, But I would

839
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: love to be you know, I'd love to experience what

840
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: what how many times they do have these conversations that

841
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: go nowhere? Yeah, and therefore don't get you know, like.

842
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: Wonder the amount of footage they're throwing out where it's

843
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: just like.

844
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: Well, they're on the beach all day every day.

845
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: You could do fifteen episodes a week of the same

846
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 2: day if you want.

847
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: To a cruise with them at night, because there have

848
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: been episodes where in the middle of the night people

849
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: sneak out to go do something like bury an idol,

850
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: get a get a buried idol, or to meet rendezvous

851
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: with another person in the middle of the night, and

852
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: the camera crews are there, so they have there are

853
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: people always on the beach filming them constantly ready.

854
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: To do they ever give any kind of logistics of

855
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: how close you are to another camp?

856
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: I mean, are they like walking distance from each other?

857
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: Or I would have loved to ask sof I mean no,

858
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: because they always have to take boats, right, they always

859
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: show up in boats, So you never see people like

860
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: walk to another camp.

861
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you wonder how I wonder how close they are

862
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: to each other in actuality?

863
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: I do too. That's a good question. All right over

864
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: at Vatu. I thought it was interesting how positive they

865
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: were all being considering you know, we went from selah

866
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: D's like crying, like you guys got immunity, and then

867
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: we go to Vatu and they're like, all right, team

868
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: we did. We didn't win, but we did, okay, you

869
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: we did all right? Like what really I guess they

870
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: you know, they say it right away, is that they

871
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: were already kind of planning to go for Angelina, which

872
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: is Mike, Ozzy and Christian's plan, right, Which which one's Angelina,

873
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: the one who stayed despite being the one that they

874
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: said they were going to vote up for, big curly

875
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: brown hair. So Angelina is like Mike's sidekick because they

876
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: were on a season together. And then she's the one

877
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: that I think was on White Lotus has like had

878
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: like a one line. I think that's Angelina. So that's

879
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: what Mike when he the other one is the big

880
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: curly hair. So that's why when Mike runs, he spends

881
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: this entire you know, rest of this episode trying to

882
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: save Angelina, and he even has to admit it's not

883
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: because she's a good player. He's doing it because they're

884
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: they're friends in real life, like they were on their

885
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: free season, so he just kind of doesn't want her

886
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: to get kicked off. Turns out to be a really

887
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: bad move. Yeah, so Mike decides to start targeting Emily

888
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: to kind of get everybody off of Angelina, and he

889
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: has this great line where I was like, Oh, this

890
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: is this guy's clearly a writer, where he says, you know,

891
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: she's a cougar in the shape of a ren Fair girl.

892
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah awesome. Yeah, but then we'll come back later because

893
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: he has some not so great lines coming up.

894
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: The second he said it's at this game, I'm Machiavelli,

895
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: I knew who was gone.

896
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: I turned to Sue and I went, he's voted out tonight.

897
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: You can't get too cocky man.

898
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: Nope. And the second they start to show it's like

899
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: when you watch Top Chef when they start to weirdly

900
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: focus on one chef, it's always like, that's when he's

901
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: going to be kicked off tonight. And the second they

902
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: started really focusing on Mike and some of those zingers

903
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: he was pointing out, was.

904
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: Like, he's done and they're kicking him out tonight. I know.

905
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: I loved this singer and I was like, he's a

906
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: great writer. He got Sephanie on his side. Then he

907
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: tells Christian and Angelina to go for Emily, and Christian

908
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: is in this sort of he's stuck because he feels

909
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: you know. But and then Mike and Christian have this

910
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: scene which turns out to be a pretty big thing.

911
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: And this is where Mike's writing linguistic ability was not

912
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: so good. He says, she's a nerd bomb where the

913
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: nerd girl stabs the nerd guy on the back. Was

914
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: mixing your metaphors, dude, I like you love her in

915
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: the shape of a renfair girl a lot better. But

916
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: what I really was thinking while I'm watching this, I

917
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: was like, Mike, you're the nerd girl in this situation

918
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: or the nerd guy. You're doing the same thing. You're

919
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: going to turn around and stab Christian in the back.

920
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: And I was so glad that Christian saw that for

921
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: what it was, because, you know, he seems to do

922
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: a Christian Christians very smart and humble in a way

923
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: that that that Mike is not right. Mike is I think,

924
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: been directing a little too long, and and and and

925
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: believes in his own persuasive powers a little too much.

926
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 2: Well, he said, he's like, all the only the only

927
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: thing survivor is is just convincing other people to do

928
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: what you want them to do.

929
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: And I wow, yeah, right, but it's still right, and

930
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: he does have good skills at it. But you know,

931
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: when you're directing your actors on White Lotus, they kind

932
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: of have to do what you're going to say, right,

933
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: So you think you're a great persuasive person, but the

934
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: reality is they get paid to be there and do

935
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: what you're You know, you're you're the boss.

936
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 2: Your your cast isn't going to turn around and vote

937
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: you out of directing.

938
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: No no, yeah, your producers maybe, the network maybe, But

939
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: even at this point, no, no. By the second season

940
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: of White Lotus, they're gettingtting him do whatever he wants.

941
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: He took that for granted, man, I think because really

942
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: he should have been drawing Christian in, you know, and

943
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: instead he really kind of pushed him away from it

944
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: with this moment, and.

945
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: His ego got him kicked out. I think so, man,

946
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: And I think.

947
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: So because actually you look at Mike and Christian and Emily,

948
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: these are the sort of nerdier like they should have

949
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: sticking together, and instead, by like characterizing her as a nerd.

950
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: Christian is going to take that personally for him to

951
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's wearing a robot shirt. Yeah, not a

952
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: cool way to go, man. No, no, it was a

953
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: big misstep on my I agree. Was his ego got

954
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: him kicked off the show? All right? I liked. I

955
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: liked the way that he dealt with it though.

956
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: I like how he was like, oh, of course nice, yes, exactly,

957
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: good job guys, Like I like that.

958
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Is ultimately a good guy. Like, yeah, I think he

959
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: just screwed up here, and and you know, and it

960
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: all comes back actually to him wanting to support Angelina

961
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: as a friend, knowing she wasn't that good of a player.

962
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: So it all goes back to a strategic miss miss step.

963
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: You know that he made half with you know, half with.

964
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: As President George Bush so eloquently said, strategery, strategery.

965
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: Yep. So Christian decides to make this big move to

966
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: vote out Mike, which he only needs, you know, a

967
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: couple votes, and I love that he's like, we don't

968
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: tell Ozzie because Ozzie's gunning for a white lotus cameo.

969
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: I love that was so good and it's kind of true.

970
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: Because does know Mike. Mike said that they hung out

971
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: in La as friends, and then and Ozzie said, I

972
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: want my I want to be Mike's number one. So

973
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: Christian is exactly right, which I then love that Emily

974
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: who just cannot keep her mouth shut.

975
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I couldn't believe that. It's like, just

976
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: don't say anything. How hard is it to just not

977
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: say something? It ultimately does work in their favor, though,

978
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: I mean, knowing how the episode actually ended, I'm like,

979
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: that's good because Ozzie can't be really pissed at Emily anymore,

980
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. No, but you can't ever

981
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: tell her anything ever, I know, because it's like, that

982
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: is not a person you want on your side. Really,

983
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 2: you're just gonna go to she first she told about

984
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: the idol and then she told about this.

985
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: It's like, just keep your mouth shut. But luckily she

986
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,479
Speaker 1: doesn't say we're voting, Like Ozzie still thinks they're voting

987
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: for Angelina, which I think if they had told I

988
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: think if they had told him that they were voting

989
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: for Mike, Ozzie would have run to tell Mike. And

990
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: I think I think so too. So I think in

991
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: her mouth. Yes, quiet, But it's interesting that you know

992
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: it is. I can't wait to see what happens, because

993
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: Christian trusting Emily at this point could be that nerd bomb.

994
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: Exactly what Mike said. So he's asking Emily to trust him,

995
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: and he's trusting Emily who's already blurted out. But she

996
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: does stick to the plan. But I think maybe, you know,

997
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: even by next episode, Christian could be, you know, regretting

998
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: his decision to stick with Emily over almost anybody else

999
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: at the same Yes, and I'm hoping again, I think

1000
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: you're right.

1001
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: As they get weeded down more, I'm gonna start getting

1002
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: attached to certain people like on Traders, and it's gonna

1003
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: be then. Yeah, I just want them to do a

1004
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: little more surviving. And I get what they mean. I

1005
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: get the metaphor of you're actually surviving the vote as

1006
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: opposed to surviving on the island.

1007
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a little bit of this. We

1008
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: get to tribal council and to your point, Ozzie talks

1009
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: about catching eight fish, which you never saw. No, we

1010
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: saw him like, oh, I'm gonna go get some food,

1011
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: but like, dude, caught them eight fish that is insane.

1012
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: After pulling that boat, pushing that boat, he was like

1013
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: the only one in the back for a little while too, Like, yeah.

1014
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: I still don't get how you've said that. That's the

1015
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: guy who keeps getting voted off of every other season.

1016
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: It's like, how's that the dude you want to get

1017
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: rid of?

1018
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: I guess I kind of get it. But he deserves

1019
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: the win. When it gets to the individual immunity, he

1020
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: just kicks everyone's That's.

1021
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: What I mean.

1022
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: He deserves to win. Keep him until. Yeah, it's really tricky, man,

1023
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: They blindside him like crazy. But yeah, he provides food

1024
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: for everybody.

1025
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,959
Speaker 2: But if you want him really to survive where he says, Okay,

1026
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: you lost, so him taking your your flint? Okay, well

1027
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: everybody has fired. What they should do is they should

1028
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 2: take their fire, like you don't get fire anymore. It's

1029
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: not that you don't get away to start your fire,

1030
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: because you've already started your fire. We're extinguishing your fire

1031
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: and you don't get a fire until you win again.

1032
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: That would be interesting.

1033
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: Well, they do take their flint, what do you mean?

1034
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm saying instead of taking their flint, they

1035
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: take the flint. But they also extinguish whatever fire they have,

1036
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: and they're not allowed to have fire until they win again.

1037
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: That to me would be interesting.

1038
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 2: That's because it's like, I know, but when who cares

1039
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: taking your flint just keep the fire going? Taking their

1040
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: flint does nothing with the fire going. Yeah, put the

1041
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: fire out. You don't get fire, That's what I'm saying.

1042
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: But you don't get you don't get to do that.

1043
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: You're once the fire goes out, We're putting your fire out.

1044
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: You've lost. You can't have a fire again until until

1045
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: you win again. That would be how I would do it.

1046
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 2: Something I think they are of answer turning me into

1047
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: a different guy.

1048
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: So so Micah's is weird. This interesting line during tribal

1049
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: Council where he says, you know, there's some people you'd

1050
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: rather lose with than win with, which it's like, okay,

1051
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: so you're gonna lose with Angelina. Yeah, And he also

1052
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: has this great spiel where he says he's so used

1053
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: to selling people on his artistic projects and until it

1054
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: comes out, you feel like a con artist, which I'm

1055
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: really related to. Of course, that's any everybody in our industry,

1056
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: can everybody because you always have to say, like, just

1057
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: trust me, I have a vision, or the story's going

1058
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: to be there before it's written, or give me millions

1059
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: of dollars, or give me the part you know it's

1060
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: it was. It was really a well put like point.

1061
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: I had a meeting with somebody the other day who's

1062
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: at a position in his career where he literally said

1063
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: to me, I'm in a place now where I can

1064
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: say whatever I want and everybody just.

1065
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: Says yes to me. And I was like, Oh, what

1066
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: a magical place. Industry. Yeah, Oh, you got to tell

1067
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: me who this was. It was, I don't know it was.

1068
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 2: It was just like he's like my my, my agents,

1069
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: my managers, other producers, they're just there to say yes

1070
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: to me when I come with anyone. Oh.

1071
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: It's just like, wouldn't that be nice? Magical? Nice? Absolutely mad.

1072
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's Mike White. I mean, Mike White. Whatever,

1073
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna go pitch, they're gonna do so. I mean,

1074
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: it's that's the idea that he's doing Survivor for fun

1075
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: is kind of cool, crazy, weird.

1076
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not pretty cool.

1077
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: He seems like a person I would really love having

1078
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the industry, like not trying to

1079
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: pitch him anything, not trying to sell him anything. I

1080
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: would love to just sit down and have a meal

1081
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: and just talk to that guy, because he seems like

1082
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: it would be a super interesting convers.

1083
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Super entertaining, super funny. Yeah, have you.

1084
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: Seen so Apparently he did a movie in two thousand

1085
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: that I was I was looking at that Jeff Bridges

1086
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: came out and said it was the best movie and

1087
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: the best performance in a decade.

1088
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know that he started with like, you know,

1089
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: much smaller comedies, and then you know the fact that

1090
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: he's ended up doing White Lotus is just bonkers. Maybe

1091
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: it's Chuck and Buck. Yes, I've heard about this.

1092
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: So he plays he plays like a guy, plays a

1093
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: crazy guy who's like stalking his best friend.

1094
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: And I was reading all about it and that.

1095
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: It ended with a quote of Jeff Bridges saying like

1096
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: this is the best performance I've seen in a decade, Like,

1097
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: oh my god. So yeah, apparently, you know, he was

1098
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: great in School of Rock, which I think is the

1099
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: only thing I've ever seen him in as an actor.

1100
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: But I mean, this guy's legit talented. So it's I

1101
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: would love to sit down and have a conversation with.

1102
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: Well, he's kicked off Survivor season fifty, Bye Bye Mike

1103
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: and was shot. I was like, this plan works perfectly,

1104
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: it does it? You know, way to pull it off.

1105
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like the tribe is going

1106
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: to be able to come together. I mean, Angeline is

1107
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: clearly on the outs, right, so she's got some scrambling

1108
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: to do. But the fact that everybody else came together

1109
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: for this vote in some form or another, and I

1110
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: think that Ozzie's gonna be able to forgive everybody.

1111
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: I hope in the seasons you've seen, have you ever

1112
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: seen a tribe that keeps losing, keeps losing and then

1113
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: eventually turns it around and gets stronger or do you

1114
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: just is this like a slow death by a thousand

1115
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: paper cuts and.

1116
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: This is death. It's usually just death until they get

1117
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: down to like two people and then they just merge

1118
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: into the other tribe. Think. I mean, I yeah, it's

1119
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: really hard to turn it around once once you've gotten

1120
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: this week, you know, because now you can see that

1121
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: they're going to have to take two people out for

1122
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: each challenge on the other teams in order to match

1123
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: this team, right, So two people get to sit out

1124
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: every time, and they can't sit out more than I

1125
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: think once in a row, maybe twice in a row.

1126
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: So it's gonna get interesting, man. I mean, that's the

1127
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: only that's the only way to equalize it, is that,

1128
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: Like because that you saw Seri sit out, so like

1129
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: if she sits out again, they can't do that. So

1130
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: eventually you end up having to like sit out Jonathan

1131
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: or somebody that you really rely on. Hopefully that equalizes it.

1132
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: But honestly, like every season, I feel like it's just

1133
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: the there's demoralized, they fall apart until it gets to

1134
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: the individual game. But sometimes these people end up being

1135
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: the winners, like from the demoralize, Like Sophie was on

1136
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: a tribe that lost everything and got down to two

1137
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: people last season, and she ended up being in the

1138
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: final three. Oh she was okay, wow, okay. So you

1139
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: know that's like I think that it actually toughens you

1140
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: up and forces you like when you come in on

1141
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: the bottom of whatever tribe, you come in on whatever.

1142
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: A lot of times there's factions of people like that

1143
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: surprisingly surprisingly turn against each other, and if you're on

1144
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: the bottom, you get to be the deciding vote, do

1145
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So you powering into an

1146
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: established alliance and being the one to be like it's

1147
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: four against four, everyone wants my vote, and then you

1148
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: say give me what I want, like let me and

1149
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: trust me, you never vote me out, and then you

1150
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: make it to the end because of that. So sometimes

1151
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: it's good to be, you know, the last person standing

1152
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: on a tribe.

1153
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: That's Yeah, there's one more thing I would add to

1154
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: what we'd have to train for for Survivor.

1155
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: We'd also need to train with giant.

1156
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: Puzzles, because that seems to be a very big important

1157
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: part of the show exactly, giant puzzle.

1158
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: And word puzzles, you know, like figuring out. And they've

1159
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: repeated a lot of like I think celebration has been before,

1160
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: Like they pick words that are like you know, yeah,

1161
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: it's uh, I can't spell, So I would I'd be

1162
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: losing all of these, right, what's calibration? What's everybody's problem?

1163
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you've been listening to pod meats tworld.

1164
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: No excuse me.

1165
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: I know that you started with another host last week,

1166
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: but that does not give you the right to skip

1167
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: over my segment, sir, which, as everybody knows, is called Where's.

1168
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: History of People? That's invested up in things, and it

1169
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: doesn't include Sophie. I'm looking at you, Sophie.

1170
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 2: Uh So, this week we are talking about Fraine Selk,

1171
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: who is a crue You.

1172
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: Made that up?

1173
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: That is Star Wars character, isn't it the coolestrain Tom

1174
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: Selleck exactly of the Council of He's Frain Selik. He's

1175
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: a Croatian music teacher and he became famous for sviving

1176
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: and astonishing seven deadly accidents. These included train and plane crashes,

1177
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: car explosions, and even being hit by a bus just randomly.

1178
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: Yes, he wasn't like ever intentionally putting himself into these minds. No,

1179
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 1: despite repeatedly flirting with disaster, Selek always emerged alive, earning

1180
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: in the nickname of the world's luckiest unlucky man. So

1181
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: this is Unbreakable. This is the plot of essentially Unbreakable,

1182
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: m Night Giamalan's movie essentially except better.

1183
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: His remarkable run of escapes had sparked both and disbelief worldwide.

1184
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: That is Frayne Selk. And I was going to do another,

1185
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: a different one, but it was another woman. And there's

1186
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: been a bunch of women and now so I wanted

1187
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: to give Frayne his due.

1188
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, give Frayan his due. There you go. Like the

1189
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: I like the new take on surviving too that it's

1190
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: like multiple events. It's not just surviving in the elderness one.

1191
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: There's some crazy ones. There is some crazy ones. I'm

1192
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: glad I don't have to do the best love stories

1193
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: that ever happened if we did the Bachelorette, So thank god,

1194
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: that's not a thing. I wouldn't even know what that

1195
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 2: theme song was going to.

1196
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: God, what would the best love stories? That's what I

1197
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: was gonna do, is like the big best loves Again.

1198
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: I have all the knowledge of the world in my head,

1199
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: so I can just filter through whatever I want. Even

1200
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: listening to Podmets twirled. The torches may be snuffed, but

1201
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: our questionable analysis burns on. We'll see you next time.

1202
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: A tribal