WEBVTT - EXCLUSIVE: Kenya Moore Interview Pt. 2 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:05.440 Hey rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:11.640 You can buy your Allegedly and my Boys mugs, T shirts, 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:16.800 rain Drops, hoodies and T shirts all on Carlos Kingshop 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.520 dot com. That's right. Get your hoodies, your T shirts, 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:26.680 and your mugs all on Carlos Kingshop dot com. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.080 Welcome to Reality with the King. 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.159 It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:38.000 one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:42.320 television with over ten years of production experience. Once a 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.080 week from Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:50.040 my friends across the entertainment industry recap our favorite reality shows. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.000 Every visit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.080 tweeting about. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:58.400 Hey rain drops. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:58.680 Yeah. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.640 So, Look, we have a lot to celebrate today. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:08.360 We are celebrating our one episode Kim the sound effects Sierra. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:09.240 Look. 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:14.440 I have to say to my brain drops, to my listeners, 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.200 I love love, love love, and my Teresa Juli's voice, 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.399 all of you. I really do, I really do. We 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:28.240 have made it to one hundred episodes. God is good, 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.600 all the time, all the time. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:31.440 God is good. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:36.720 I'm very blessed, I'm very thankful from the nominations to 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.240 being harolded as one of. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.720 The top podcasts. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:45.280 I owe it to the re single one of you all. 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:50.600 This means the world to me, It really does, and 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:57.120 I thank you madly. And to celebrate my darlings, who 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:04.480 better than Kenya Moore? Part two interview to launch the 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:12.160 one hundredth episode. That's right, the one hundredth episode. Yes, y'all, 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.600 so get into it. Part two of my conversation with 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:23.680 star of the Real Housewalk of Atlanta, Miss USA, miss Icon, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:34.959 Kenya More. There were allegations that you tried to suck Apollo's. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:35.840 Dick honey allegation. 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:43.279 Allegation Fedra Parks went on our Senio Hall with Cynthia 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.360 and Portia. You sat there and told the entire world 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.640 that I saw Apollo in La at a party. I 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:58.680 proceeded to follow him without him knowing, to his hotel 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:04.960 and proposition him to ask him to suck his penis. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.960 And she said that on our senior hall. Can you 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.840 believe that? And it was all made up? I'm like, what, 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.720 I've never in my life, And I said this to Andy, 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.840 I said it to anyone who asked me. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.880 I have never seen him outside a taping of this show. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:28.440 Even randomly in the street, even going to the gas station. Paul, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:33.919 I have never seen him outside of Real Housewives. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.440 Taping ever, just even randomly. 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:41.240 Ever, So I'm like, okay, Well, tell me I was 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:42.800 pleading with Phaedra. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:48.640 Where what was the party? No one saw us? Well, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.160 what was the date? I could prove I've been out 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:52.920 of town. Give me a date. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.120 She would never give me a date, Never tell me where, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.680 what was the hotel, never told me the hotel, never. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.400 Gave me any information. So to me, I knew she 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:04.119 was in on it. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.600 She knew it wasn't true, but she wanted to destroy 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.280 me the same way she wanted to destroy Candy because 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.800 she said something against. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.000 Her is she did not like it. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.880 That is a fact on everything I have, I know 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.560 for a fact she knew it. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:20.960 Was a lie. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:29.320 Apollo told me that it was a lie, and when 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.960 he I want to be very clear, the reason why 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.520 that all came out is because one thing about the 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:42.839 show at the time, we took pride in making sure 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:48.120 that if something could clear the air, let's do it. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.000 Yes, let's not allow. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:55.680 A lingering rumor to continue without addressing it. Addressing it 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.000 and really seeing like it's not. He says, she said, 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:00.679 I don't like He says, she's yes. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:01.680 I like facts. 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.360 They would never give me the facts. And that's why 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.200 I was like, I know what this is about. Let's 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.120 let's not pretend I'm stupid here. I know why you're 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.120 not giving me any information. Oh well, I gotta go 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:14.839 with my husband. I got to just go ahead and 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.800 listen away. No you don't know, you don't No, you 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:18.360 don't know. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.200 And he made that clear. He said it to me, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.680 and I said, you telling me? Is it going to work? 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.120 Because I'm behind the scenes, don't I don't exist in 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.479 this social experiment we call the real Housewives, right, I said, 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.800 you have to tell Kenya what y'all don't know, and 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:45.240 tell me if I'm wrong. It took so many attempts 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.000 to get Apollo to admit it on camera. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.440 He was nervous. He kept trying to like he wants. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.800 I knew his intention was to say it when the 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.000 cameras were rolling, I said, you have to tell her. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:00.719 I brought you out a bar one. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.479 We were filming a bar one party, and I said, Kenya, 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.000 you have to talk. I talked to Apollo one on 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.560 one Carlos, I'm never gonna do it. I don't mean 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.400 people that set up. I'm trying to sleep with him. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.120 We're flirting. I don't do one on one for somebody's husband. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.000 I said, Kenya, you have to trust me. He wants 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.640 to reveal something to you. You said, Carlos, I do 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:23.240 trust you. 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:24.480 I'll do it. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.880 I brought Apollo outside, were outside of bar one. He 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.559 was nervous. He tried to say it ten times. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:32.120 He just came. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:32.839 He kept saying. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.600 He kept saying, I apologize for. I'm like, what are 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.120 you apologizing for? I need you to say it. At 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.920 this point, you have ruined my life. You got everybody 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.160 out here thinking, and your wife over here on national 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.480 TV telling everybody I have offered to suck your dick. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.320 You need to say exactly what the truth is. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:53.120 I need to. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.359 Hear you say it. Don't give me a blanket apology. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.160 I'm I'm sorry for whatever I said or did know? 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.479 What did you do? What did you and your wife do? 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:04.479 What did you do? 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:05.960 Tell me? Say it? 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.279 And I was I was not trying to hear it. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.680 I walked away several times and I said, I don't 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:12.360 have time for this. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.600 That scene it aired for five minutes. It took over 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.600 thirty minutes to get that conversation because you really wanted 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.680 him to say explicitly rightfully, So like, if you're going 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.760 to admit it, admitted verbatim, because everyone thinks that I'm 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:32.400 this whrror, I'm this Jezebel who wants to suckon Mary Man. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:34.200 Yeah. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.320 Yeah, and he and he admitted that it was wrong. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.160 And what I thought was so interesting is although he 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.280 admit it on camera and this is the dark. 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.840 Side of reality, there is a darkness. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.440 He there's a dark side reality. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:53.800 People can spread a rumor and it grows into life 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:54.440 on his own. 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.119 Yeah, people still think that it's true. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.320 I know the moment the facts are issued and the 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.320 rumor should be dispelled because the facts our issue. People said, 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.000 now that was a lie. The truth doesn't grow as 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:10.360 fast as a lie. Never it's you were vindicated, No 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.120 vindicated that up, No one cares. People think I told 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.840 someone to spread a rumor. I was vindicated in a 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.600 book through everybody. It's still what chased me for the 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.480 rest of my life, unfortunately. And it's interesting that it 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:22.880 all leads down to one road. 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:23.320 Yep. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.040 But going back to and then later to add insult 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:32.880 to injury in subsequent seasons, the same party said, well, 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.199 she paid Apollo to lie. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.160 Remember yes, remember it was two housewives. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.679 And they were like, well, she must have paid him 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.600 to help clean up her reputation or something. No, but 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.920 that was the goal from you from the beginning, is 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:49.040 to ruin my reputation. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.560 That was your goal. So you're telling on yourself. But 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:53.760 I called it. I've never wrong. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.120 You realize I have never been on the wrong side 0:08:56.120 --> 0:09:00.680 of history. Yeah, these girls never never been on the 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.920 wrong side of history. Even as much as I have 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.600 fought tooth and nail with Porsche, I have loved for Porsche, 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.959 and people think, oh, you know, I remember having a 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.280 conversation with Andy recently and I was like, you really 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.360 think I don't like Like literally, I can look at 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:16.880 her like she's my little sister. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.720 And truth be told, if she could change time in 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:21.559 my head. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.760 It doesn't have to be anybody else's head. But she 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.200 would have wanted me to be big Sis. It would 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.600 have been me big Sis and her. I mean, look 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.360 look at what she was doing in her life where 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:32.240 she wanted to go. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:34.600 I'll leave it at that. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:41.720 No, I definitely think that there is this mutual respect 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.920 that you two have for each other. I never thought 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.480 in a million years that it was that deep between 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.400 you and Porsche. I know Porscha personally too. I know 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.920 that Porsche. When she came on the show, people got 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.319 to understand, you're growing into the woman you are now. Yes, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.920 I was married to a man that obviously appeared to 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:07.000 be very controlling, Yes, and she was navigating through what 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.920 that life was like. I can state for a fact, 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.680 Porsia truthfully does not have an issue with you. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.040 No, I know, I know that, But but I think 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:18.559 that it's it's. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.000 This like you, you're jealous of her, you hate her? 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:23.520 You know who? 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.520 Which one they've sayen it, said it to her, said 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.320 it to me. They don't know what the relationship it's like, 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.600 really having a little sister. You're going to be in 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.640 love one day and out of love another day. You're 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.720 gonna fight one day and you're gonna uh not fight 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:44.800 another day, and you know, listen, it's a very interesting dynamic. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.440 But I think the keyword is number two things I 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.120 have to say about Porsia. I have never said she 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.320 was a bad person. I think she's made some bad 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:57.920 decisions we all have, right. But I have only said 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.720 two people on this show, in this this entire time 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.640 I've been on the show, are not good people. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.880 She's not one of them. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:07.960 Who are the two people that aren't good people? 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:09.800 I think you know. 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:13.680 I'm even at that. 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.000 And I'll have to say, but one of them, I 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.760 agree wholeheartedly. Yes, and. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.560 Yes, I think you know who they are. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:27.960 And another thing about Portia, she has never hit me 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.480 below the belt. I don't believe she's ever hit me 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.080 below the belt like she's hit me. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:44.520 Well, she pulled my hair. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:51.640 Right, right right, But you know, listen, uh, in terms 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.280 of like the things that I wanted most in my life, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:12:00.320 my child, my marriage, I don't recall a time where 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.840 I have felt like she hit me below the belt 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.840 like I can say she didn't support me in those 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:14.800 moments sometimes, but the willful hatred or trying to hurt 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.160 you in a really direct way, She's never done that 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.040 to me, do you? And when they have, yeah, is 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.679 when I know I see you, I see what you're 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.400 trying to do and it won't work. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:27.400 When she pulled your hair. 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:32.280 Real talk, we talk about how you were season five 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.920 seeing the episodes air you're disappointed at what's being shown. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.960 It is new to you. She pulled your hair. This 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:42.080 is season six reunion. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:46.720 Obviously it's a it's a moment that will forever be replayed. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.440 Did it do a did it take a toll on 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:52.200 your mental health? 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:53.160 Oh? 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:57.120 Absolutely, because when you lived through a situation like that, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.880 like I am a former Miss USA, what I have 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.040 always say, I'm not gonna be that girl fighting on TV. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.000 I will fight you with my words all day long. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:06.640 I don't care what anyone does to me. Don't put 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.520 your hands on me, and I will do the same. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.840 And that's not what happened. And so where you think 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.560 that there are limits and barriers, and you know, we 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.000 all understand we are working here. We are not on 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:24.280 a street corner. This is a professional environment where you 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:28.520 should feel safe to say or do whatever you feel, 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.679 especially in a reunion situation. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.800 But when you know we could argue this back and forth. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.440 But when you think that's how everyone else thinks, but 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.080 that isn't how everyone else thinks. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.319 This is a new error in life. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.800 You ask somebody maybe over forty, they're gonna say absolutely not. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.000 You have someone under forty. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:48.960 Yeah, I put my hands on that person too, if 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:53.000 they had something in my face or whatever, it was polarizing. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.839 And for me, I never saw it being polarizing. 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Listen Reality with the King and I'm Carlos 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.240 King let's get back into the show. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.120 What happened to you. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.680 After you left the reunion and had to deal with 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.840 the reality of it being played constantly. 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.440 People are making jokes a bit, it's a meme. 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:14.200 You always pride of yourself on being, like you said, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:14.920 a beauty queen. 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:15.919 Your word smel if I. 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.160 Can read you, let's find without words. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.560 One time you shared a story with me how you 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:29.480 are sometimes afraid to have dinner on lunch and outdoor 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.840 restaurants because you never knew when somebody walk by you 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.000 and try to mimic what happened. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.240 Tried to put in here or yeah, or think you know, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:39.320 they think it's funny. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.800 So these young kids, you know, they think those things 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.520 are funny. Like you see now people are going by 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.879 snatch people's wigs off of their head like it's funny. 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.199 And that could be extremely, extremely traumatizing for some people. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.520 So for me, I was definitely in that state where 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.760 I was paranoid. I didn't feel comfortable being out by myself, 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.399 which I always go out by myself. You see me 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:07.440 usually in Atlanta. I'm by myself. I'm confident, I'm gonna do. 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:08.639 Whatever I want to do, if I want to have 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.159 a drink by myself or dinner or whatever. 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:16.880 I don't worry about what other people think. So when 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.200 that happened, I just remember being in New York one 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:24.480 time and I was outside and I remember some little 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.119 young girls going by and they were yelling some stuff 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.840 or you know, like taunting me, and I was just thinking, Oh, 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.920 these pitches are gonna try me. Now, you know, they're 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.560 gonna try me because they think I'm a punk, and 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.840 we know I'm far from a punk. I just don't 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:40.920 want to be that girl fighting on TV. I don't 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.679 want to be a part of the Bad Girls Club 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.560 or oh you know, I just didn't want to be 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:46.360 seen like that. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.040 I didn't want to be seen like that. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:51.480 And now. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:57.160 I feel like, you know, I remember my dad saying 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:02.520 crazy stuff to me when I happened too, So yeah, 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:06.000 it's it was a bad moment, I think, for for 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:11.080 us both, and unfortunately we can't erase it. But I 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.520 think I learned from that. I learned what some people's 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:19.240 limitations are. I learned that you know, everyone doesn't have 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.440 you know, every everyone doesn't see the moment the same 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:33.760 way as you. And to be fair, I believe at 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.760 that time portrait was really. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.080 Going through a lot that we didn't know. That was 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:38.840 the year that. 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:43.159 Absolutely that, you know, the Cordell thing, the divorce. She 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.679 didn't I don't think that she wanted a divorce. She 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.000 didn't want to give him his last name back. It 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.000 was a lot going on with her, and I think 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.800 I've seen that in myself, having gone through this situation 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.760 with Mark being stifled, I feel like that is somewhat 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:03.000 paralleled because and that's why I felt most disappointed, because 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:04.880 I didn't feel like she supported me when it came 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.760 to my husband, because we were in the same kind 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.800 of relationship where you had someone controlling you. 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.280 Mark and Kurdell has similarity, yes, in our relationship. 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.600 Yeah, And I just felt like you, of all people 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.200 should know that. And if you're being my friend, why 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.639 are you not supporting me? Why are you letting people laugh? 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.600 And the little you know a marriage, which what she 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.240 used to always say, Oh we you know, the sanctity 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:30.920 of marriage. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:35.520 How serious she took her vowels. I felt the same way. 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.359 You know, this is not for play, this is my life, 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.320 and this is what I've wanted all my life. And 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.680 I know that she prides herself in being a wife 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:43.760 and I did too. 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:45.440 It was so many things. 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.639 And I wasn't supported by her in that moment, and 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.679 it was really truly disappointing because we had come together 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.200 because of our children, again having kids at the same 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.760 we were pregnant at the same damn time. 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:57.760 Can you believe it? 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.639 I can't make this stuff kid reasons. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.240 The reason why I would forever stand for you and 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:09.639 Porsche is because on the outside looking in, I felt 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.200 you had two chocolate girls fighting for positions. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.760 She ain't chocolate, she might be caramel. 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:19.800 Two black girls. 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:20.359 She is. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:33.320 I love you too so much because you too, I'm 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:38.040 gonna get so much hatred for this. You two are 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.520 the last peach holders. 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:46.159 You better say it that cannot be replaced. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:50.920 Can be replaced, and you too, although went through it. 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.399 It's sort of like when you first meet somebody and 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.920 y'all hate each other, and then later later in life 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.080 you two are best friends, you know, like my one 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.639 of my really good friends, Samed Tiffany. I could not 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:07.639 stomach her, but no, I can't live my girl, and 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.760 I feel like you and Porsche being pregnant at the 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:15.760 same time. I miss the dynamic between your ports because 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.280 I do feel like you and Porsche who have found 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:23.120 your way, But unfortunately you're on a show where you're 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:28.720 fighting for position and sometimes and sometimes the life's camera 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:33.840 action can make you go there a little further than 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:36.600 you would have if there wasn't a Life's camera action. 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:38.840 Agree because of the environment that you're a. 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:40.720 Part of, pushing you to do so, pushing you to 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.040 do so to make good moments for TV, but you 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:44.879 have to live with it for the rest of your life. 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.920 You and Porsche recently followed each other on Instagram, and. 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.199 Well, we have been talking, but I didn't realize I 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.159 wasn't following you. So we had been talking for at 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:58.560 least I want to say, over a year maybe, but 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.400 she didn't take me on something. I was like, are 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:03.760 you trying to be shady? You know because other people 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.720