1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Third hour Clay in box starts right now. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Debate Day, June twenty seventh, this Thursday, that everybody is, 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: at least in terms of news, focused in on the 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: evening's activities. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden get a square off with Donald Trump. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: And we shall see what the outcome may be. I 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: had mentioned though a few moments ago, something else in 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: the background that has a lot of people on the 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: edge of their seats, well kind of is the Supreme 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: Court decision on presidential immunity Clay. 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: The Court will be. 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: Convening on Monday, July first for a public non argument 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: session at ten am. The Court may announce opinions then. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: So people are saying court's going to be in session 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: next week, Supreme Court, which means probably not going to 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: drop this thing tomorrow. It's probably coming next week before 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: the fourth of July holiday. Now, just as everyone knows. 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Right now at MSNBC, they're focused on telling you that 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: Trump is a threat to democracy. 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: But they will soon switch to. 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court is doing Trump's dirty work by delaying 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: the decision, and the decision is very likely to be 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: somewhat favorable to Donald Trump. Or rather, they'll in part 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: at least agree with the argument that a president in 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: his presidential duties has some immunity from prosecution, which that's 26 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: really common sense. It goes to important constitutional questions. But 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: a president can't do his job if making the wrong 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 2: decision as president, you know, making it in good faith 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: as president can result in criminal prosecution afterwards. We don't 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: want a situation like you see what happened in Honduras. Clay, 31 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: the former president of Honduras is going away for forty 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: five years in a US federal prison because he was, 33 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: while pretending to be an ally of the US and 34 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: the War on Drugs, helping to arrange for and protect 35 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars of cocaine and heroin shipments 36 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: into the United States, which he was benefiting from mightily 37 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: and using that money to keep himself in office. But 38 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: he did step down when I guess they held an 39 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: election a few years ago and the guy who took 40 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: over was like, Yeah, I guess what, We're going to 41 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: extradite you to the US for all those drugs that 42 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: you were helping to sell and cover for. So I'm 43 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: just saying, right, you know, you don't want to be 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: in a situation we talk about what it means in 45 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: a country where you are going after persecuting your political opposition, 46 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: you definitely don't want to create a situation where you 47 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: can be lawfully doing your job and treated like somebody 48 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: who has been involved in decades long drug conspiracies, because 49 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: then no one's going to want to give up power, 50 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: and no one's going to want to stand for public 51 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: office because of the risk of this kind of punitive 52 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: politics using the legis I mean the judiciary as a 53 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: tool of what You're looking at me like a no, no, no. 54 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just thinking through. By Monday, whatever happens 55 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: in the debate is going to be completely off the 56 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: headlines with the Supreme Court decisions, So they're basically deadening 57 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: the debate into a weekend followed by actual huge news 58 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: that would come down on Monday, then going into another holiday, 59 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: which just further confirms to me that this debate is 60 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: just kind of buried and not really going to change 61 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: the trajectory of anything. I think that's the case. 62 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: Also, I believe July eighth is when they're scheduled to 63 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: have the sentencing for Trump July. 64 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Eleventh, because I I love it. That's my wife's birthday 65 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: in my head. So yeah, but Thursday of that week, 66 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: you're going to find out what they do to Trump 67 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: associated with the New York City charges. 68 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: And so there's a bunch of things that are coming 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: down here pretty quickly. Just in the case of the 70 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: former president of Honduras who's got forty five years in 71 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: US federal prison, clearly arranging for international drug shipments was 72 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: not part of his job, right, So that's so I 73 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: think the Supreme Court is essentially going to say, you know, 74 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: you call in an air strike on a foreign adversary 75 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: to defend the United States. You know, you you veto 76 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: a bill, you sign a bill, whatever. If you're doing 77 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: president's stuff, you can't go to prison. But if you're 78 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: doing other stuff that isn't that doesn't have to do 79 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: with the presidency, that has to be looked at differently. 80 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: So anyway, that's that's coming down the pike. I think 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: it'll be most likely Monday, and to Clay's point, that 82 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: will then take us very quickly into the holiday and 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: then very quickly after that the sentencing of Donald Trump 84 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: and then the RNC. Are they so desperate that they 85 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: would perhaps try to stop Donald Trump from being able 86 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: to be president at the RNC because they they would 87 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: put him under some form of house arrest or even yes, 88 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: the possibility of some form of prison sentence or some 89 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: period of prison sentence. So I have to say, that's 90 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: that's all all the possibility here. Do you want to 91 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: because we got Alex Bearnson with us the bottom to 92 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: talk about his case against the Biden administration. But I 93 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: wanted to. I wanted to get into some of this 94 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: Tucker stuff. You see this Tucker is in Australia. He's 95 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: doing like a tour. You know what Americans do, go 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: to Australia. We see the kangaroos and the kualas. Everyone's 97 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: so nice, the beaches are so pretty, you know, avoid 98 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: the saltwater crocs. 99 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: It was an amazing trip that we had. I got 100 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: to go at the end of the year. I'd encourage 101 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: you and carry at some point to go. Yeah. 102 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: But Tucker is also doing some speeches there and this 103 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: is this was a we talked about debates. Know how 104 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: you handle people who are trying, who are hiding behind 105 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: the facade of I'm just a journalist. Asking questions very 106 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: important for elected officials, particularly Republicans. You know, if somebody 107 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: asks you, hey, I'm just wondering, why are you responsible 108 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: for mass murders? And why are you a racist white supremacist, 109 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: they're not answer. They're not actually asking you a question. 110 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: If you're you know, if you're Tucker, if you're a 111 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: Republican politician, if you're Donald Trump, they're not asking you 112 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: a question. 113 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: They're just insulting you, right, They're just insulting you. 114 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: They're they don't expect you to say, yeah, you're right, 115 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm responsible for a lot of mass murders and I'm 116 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: a horrible person. 117 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: Like it's just an insult. 118 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: The skuis is a question, and I think Tucker did 119 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: a very good job dealing with this in a whole 120 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: on a whole range of fronts. First off, here we 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: have you know what, Let's go to nineteen because this 122 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: is where she says you talk about white great replacement 123 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: theory or the great replacement of whites. This is how 124 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: Tucker handled this part. But played nineteen. 125 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: So you talked of a little bit about immigration, and 126 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: in the past you've talked about how white Australians, Americans, 127 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: Europeans are being replaced by non white immigrants. In what 128 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: is often referred to as the Great Replacement theory. This 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: is the same advice. 130 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: Said that whites are being replaced. 131 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: Well, I I don't think I said that. Well, it's 132 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: been mentioned on your show four thousand times. 133 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: And really, when did I say that on your I 134 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: said whites are being replaced? 135 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: You have said that before? Really? 136 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would challenge you to cite that, because I'm 137 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: pretty sure I haven't said that. I said native I 138 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: said native born Americans have are being replaced, including. 139 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: Blacks, native born Americans. 140 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: Native born Americans, Americans who, like black Americans, have been 141 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: African Americans have been in the United States for in 142 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: many cases their families over four hundred years, and their 143 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: concerns are every bit is real and valid and alive 144 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: to me as the concerns of white people whose families 145 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: have been there four hundred years. So I've never said 146 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: that whites are being replaced. 147 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: It's it's a momentay, and but it keeps going and 148 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: it gets worse and worse for the report. She effectively 149 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: doubles down on this. If you're going to say someone 150 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: has said something four thousand times on their show, it's 151 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: really bad if they've never said it on their show, 152 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: or they've never said it publicly, right, And that's essentially 153 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: what happens. And I think the Tucker, because he's been 154 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: in the game a long time and he's fast on 155 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: his feet, doesn't fall into this trap of just allowing 156 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: them to corner you with the initial lie and all 157 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: of a sudden you find yourself ambushed on all sides 158 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: by things that aren't true, and it's just an attack. 159 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: It's not actually meant to be an exchange of ideas. 160 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: It's not really a question. 161 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: No, And I think you should prepare yourself for that 162 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: tonight from Jake Tapper and Dana Bash because the premise 163 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: under which the question is asked tells a great deal 164 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: about the questioner and the question. Because you could say, hey, 165 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: let's talk about abortion, Donald Trump, what is your position 166 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: on abortion? The way that it's often going to be 167 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: phrased is many women out there feel that in the 168 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: wake of Roe v. Wade, they are going to be 169 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: put in prison if they decide to get into Moore 170 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: like you can premise the question with a clear indication 171 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: of what side of the aisle you are right and 172 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: basically phrasing the question, and a lot of that gets missed, 173 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: and I would encourage you to go watch that video. 174 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: We'll put it up on Clay and Buck, because Tucker 175 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: basically does a masterclass of demonstrating how dishonest the phrasing 176 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: of the question is, and in the process basically undresses 177 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: the questionner and points out how unfair that entire process is. 178 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: So I would encourage you to go watch it. I 179 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: think it's instructive. I think it also is illustrative of 180 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: what you will likely see tonight as Jake Tapper and 181 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: Dana Bash try to handle loaded questions that are very 182 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: much softballs to Biden, and then they come at Trump 183 00:09:59,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: like cannon balls. 184 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, the questions for Biden will be, what are you 185 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: going to do to continue to raise middle class wages? 186 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: The questions for Trump will be, since everyone knows you're 187 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: a horrible person, why are you such a horrible person? 188 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean that that's that's the subliminal messaging of what 189 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: you should expect, at least in part tonight from those 190 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: CNN anchors. They'll try to dress it up so it's 191 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: a little a little subtle, but that's if that's going 192 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: to be the the intent I think of some of 193 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: the questioning. 194 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: But and and beyond that, Tucker, there was another moment 195 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: that was pretty fun. Yeah. He when he. 196 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: Opened it up after he gave his speech for the 197 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: Q and A. This is all online, and Tucker shared 198 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: it out on his ex account. Uh he said, you know, oh, 199 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: here we go, like I can't wait to get questions 200 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 2: about you know, Putin and like my support for Russia. 201 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: And sure enough this has cut seventeen play it. 202 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: You've preempted my question on Putin. I think I think 203 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: you did strategically because you knew it's what we'd ask. 204 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: He's so bad, and I also appreciate them. 205 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: Did he make you take the code the shot, take 206 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: it up the COVID shot? No he didn't. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, 207 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: the corvid shot. 208 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: I have probably tens of millions. 209 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is whoever loves the media. 210 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: It's like a time capsule. It's like it's like you're 211 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: like the last Japanese soldier on Oka. Now you think 212 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: the warst still going? No, it didn't save millions of lives. 213 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: It's hilarious. 214 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm being boorishal the full answering with that, Okay, 215 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: I beg your pardon. 216 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: It's great it's great. You have to be in some ways. 217 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: I think sometimes buck disrespectful of dishonest questions that aren't 218 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: brought with good intentions. I think I think that unearned 219 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: respect is a big problem for conservatives and exchanges, particularly 220 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: with the media. We have a tendency on the right. 221 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: It's a tendency. It is not when the Trump has, 222 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: which may be one of the secret weapons that he 223 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: brings to the table, Well, we have a tendency to say, Okay, 224 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to handle this on the merits, even though 225 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: I think you're being a little unfair or I think 226 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: you're being a little bit ad hominem with the way 227 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: you're posing the question, and there's really no reason to 228 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: play along with their game in that way. I think 229 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: that if people ask unfair questions, you should address them 230 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: as unfair questions. And I think that's something that certainly 231 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: Republican politicians have been getting better at. I think they've 232 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: been following Trump's lead on it. If you get a 233 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: loaded question from Tapper or Dana Bash tonight, I can 234 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: assure you Trump is going to come at it as 235 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: a loaded question. It's not going to say, yeah, you're right, 236 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm an adjudicated sexual assault, the you know, classified mishandling 237 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. He's not just going to take whatever 238 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: they offer him, and that's very, very important. I did 239 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: just think it's funny that the Tucker goes so, I 240 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: know you're gonna ask me a bunch of dumb Russia questions, 241 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: but I guess we'll take some questions. 242 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: This guy's like, well, I'd like to ask a Russia question. 243 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, by the way, that's. 244 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: A Scottish accent that you just broke out. That is 245 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: not the awesome. You might as well been wearing a 246 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: kilt when you just try to do your Aussie accent. 247 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: We come back. I've got something you gotta do with 248 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: Australian accents. You gotta go to this. You gotta go. Nah, 249 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: I can't do accents. I can't do accents, but I was. 250 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: I did have an incredible time over there. But you know, 251 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: they have a National Sorry Day where they apologize for 252 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: all the bad things. I can't believe this is real. 253 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: They have a national this is what it's called National 254 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Sorry Day, and like the nation just apologizes for all 255 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: the bad things that the nation has done before. So 256 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: this is a real thing I keep waiting for in 257 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Australian that I didn't like. And yet and yet their 258 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: country is East Germany with kangaroos. 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Episodes drop Sundays at noon Eastern. 282 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 5: Find it on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 283 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 5: get your podcasts. 284 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 285 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. Couple of things additional 286 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: Buck to think on on the debate coming up, and 287 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit everybody with the odds of what words 288 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: will be used or subjects will be discussed by Trump 289 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: that you can go gamble on right now at Polymarket, 290 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: which I think is fun. But two things that I 291 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of or one thing that I 292 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of discussion on. Remember, this is 293 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: a sterile environment, meaning there is no reaction to anything 294 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: that is said. So I don't know that people have 295 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: talked about this, but Buck, think about the way this 296 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: is set up. These guys in theory are going into 297 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: this studio, there's nobody really else around. For ninety minutes, 298 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: they are going to be going at it with each other, 299 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: and there won't be any audience reaction. There won't be 300 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: any sort of live view for them of how the 301 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: nation is responding to them. I don't know that we've 302 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: ever had a debate like this by you know what 303 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Like, it's a very strange setup, so 304 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: you don't really know how your talking points are being 305 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: received because, for better or worse, there's no reaction. I 306 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: do think that could factor in. And then the other 307 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: part here is what's Biden gonna look like? I hate 308 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: to be cosmetic guy. We haven't seen him for seven days. 309 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: What are they doing to him? Is he getting botox shots? 310 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: Is he getting put a l rouge on his cheeks? 311 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? They're gonna have to make 312 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: it look like he's awake. It's weird. It's weird for 313 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: him to just have vanished for a full week and 314 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: we don't know anything about it. I think they've been 315 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: testing drugs on him. I think they've been given him botox. 316 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to look like himself at 317 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: all when he comes out on the debate stage. It's time. 318 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: It takes time for him to be in the pitch 319 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: black coffin and get all the blood transfusions that he 320 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: needs to emerge as Biden. 321 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, that's very the nos feratu. As you will 322 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: have pointed out, I will say too, this is gonna 323 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: be really weird. I think I just feel like it's 324 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a weird vibe because of that sterile stage, 325 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: because Biden getting shot up with god knows what, and 326 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: I just I feel like something wacky may happen, just 327 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: a whack not. 328 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: Necessarily good or bad arm wrestling match that breaks out here, 329 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it could happen something really funky. 330 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Jake Tapper had to break him 331 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: up and they were rolling around on the ground like 332 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: in a school yard. 333 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: I don't think you can count anything out at this point. 334 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: I I think you gotta leave plenty of room here 335 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 2: for expecting the unexpected. 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He's got a sub stack unreported truths, 361 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: which we highly recommend to you as well to subscribe to. 362 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: But to Alex, Yesterday's Supreme Court, because of standing issues, 363 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: did basically nothing with regard to the Biden administration's widespread 364 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: censorship regime. 365 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: But Berenson v. Biden is another case. 366 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: You are, Berenson, tell us about how this may proceed 367 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: and get a different outcome than what we saw with 368 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: the censorship COVID case so far. 369 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 6: Sure, So, I mean, I'm literally the las man standing 370 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 6: in a way on this. So as you know, the 371 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 6: Biden administration pushed very hard to suppress dissensing views around 372 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 6: COVID and especially the back in twenty twenty one, and they, 373 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 6: you know, they did some of this publicly. You know, 374 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 6: they they had the Surgeon General come out and make 375 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 6: a speech in you know, in July twenty twenty one. 376 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 6: And they did this as the vaccines were sort of 377 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 6: starting to lose their efficacy and it became clear that, 378 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 6: you know, that they were going to be pushing for 379 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 6: boosters and they were going to be pushing for mandates. 380 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 6: So put let's you know, let's put aside the question 381 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: whether that was right or wrong. Let's just talk about 382 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 6: the constitutional and the First Amendment issues that they raised 383 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 6: with their pressure campaign. So this campaign was very broad, 384 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 6: and you know, it came out of the White House, 385 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 6: it came out of the Surgeon General, came out of 386 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 6: the CDC. It was about specific tweets, it was about 387 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 6: specific people. It was also broader. You know, we want 388 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 6: the companies that have broad policies. So the state of Missouri, 389 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 6: the State of Louisiana, and several private plaintiffs a couple 390 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 6: of years ago sued the Biden administration and said, hey, 391 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 6: you know you violated our rights. We were censored, and uh, 392 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 6: you know you were censors censored as a result of 393 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 6: the pressure you put on social media companies to take 394 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 6: actions against what you called misinformation. When the Supreme Court 395 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 6: said yesterday was basically, you haven't shown a to these 396 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 6: plaintiffs A that you know that you were censored specifically 397 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 6: as the result of anything the administration did, and b 398 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 6: that you were really injured in a way. That's going 399 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 6: to matter going forward because they were actually asking for 400 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 6: an injunction. These planeiffs. They weren't. None of these plaintiffs 401 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 6: I don't think were ever actually completely deplatformed. One of 402 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 6: them might have been partly platformed, but for the most 403 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 6: part they were saying, hey, our reach was censored. In 404 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 6: other words, you know that the Biden administration pushed the 405 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 6: companies to, uh, you know, to to make it harder 406 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 6: for people to see us. Okay. So so the corporate 407 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 6: was that this isn't good enough. You haven't shown that 408 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 6: you were injured, and we can't We can't make law. 409 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 6: We can only judge specific cases, and your injury is 410 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: not specific enough for this case to be allowed to 411 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 6: move forward. Okay. So I have a separate case. I 412 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 6: didn't sue with those people. I sued the Biden administration 413 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 6: for censorship against me specifically, and I also sued Pfizer 414 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 6: because there's a or not Pizer itself, but two senior 415 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 6: people at Fiser, the chairman of Pfiser and a director 416 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 6: of Pfiser, who were involved with the censorship that I faced. 417 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 6: And I do have a a I have a very 418 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 6: severe injury, and that Twitter actually banned me at a 419 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 6: time when my tweets were being viewed, you know, close 420 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 6: to ten million times a day. And secondly, I have 421 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 6: proof that these people specifically targeted me that I was 422 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 6: named by a guy named Andy Slavitt when he was 423 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 6: at the White House, and that I was named later 424 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: as well, and so and so that that gives me standing. 425 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 6: It shows that there is an issue here involving censorship 426 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 6: that the court isn't going to be able to get 427 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 6: around by saying you haven't shown you were injured. Now, now, look, 428 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 6: maybe they'll say, obviously, I don't think they should say this. Hey, 429 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 6: you know what, like this was a national emergency and 430 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 6: we don't think the First Amendment really reaches this conduct. 431 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 6: That maybe they'll say that okay, But but they're not 432 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 6: going to be able to say, I have no standing. 433 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: What, Alex, What is the redress? What is the result 434 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: that you think would be the best for the lawsuit 435 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: that you have filed? What if you if you were 436 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: the judge and you had a magic wand and you 437 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: basically got to write the opinion satisfying this case, deciding 438 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: this case, what would you want it to say? 439 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 6: Well, so that's so the other thing is that these 440 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 6: other people weren't asking for damages, okay, they were asking 441 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 6: for an injunction and others they didn't want the conduct 442 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 6: to be a continued going forward. I'm asking for money 443 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 6: damages because I was I was injured by the conduct. 444 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 6: I lost my largest audience, and I am a reporter, 445 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 6: and you know, I had a book that I was 446 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 6: about to publish, which I couldn't promote to these you know, 447 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 6: millions and millions of people who are seeing me. So 448 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 6: I want money damages, you know, and so so I 449 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 6: want to get to a jury. I want a jury 450 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 6: to decide my case. So I'm in a someone. That's 451 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 6: another reason I'm actually in a better position because, among 452 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 6: other things, if Joe Biden loses in twenty twenty, you 453 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 6: know this year, the other case will also sort of 454 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 6: go away, or would have gone away even if they 455 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 6: had standing, because the release they wanted wouldn't matter anymore 456 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 6: because Joe Biden wouldn't be the president. So my case 457 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 6: is different. I want, I want not just relief going forward, 458 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 6: but damages and so and so I think like my 459 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 6: case essentially, even though it's narrower in some ways, because 460 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 6: I'm not saying like this is all about you know, 461 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 6: the whole government's conduct is about to me, this is 462 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 6: what makes my case stronger, is that it is narrow 463 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 6: or it's about a few specific people, although it's also 464 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 6: about Sizor. My case really has the potential to determine 465 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 6: the outer limits of what the government can do. There's ultimately, 466 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 6: if the government is allowed to do what it did 467 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 6: to me and specifically target individuals, then the First Amendment 468 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 6: really is dick. 469 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we were saying yesterday. I mean, we're 470 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: getting pretty close to it. It's it's shocking how brazen 471 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: the censorship was from the Biden regime on all the 472 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: COVID stuff. And Alex has a substack. You should all 473 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: go check it out, Unreported Truth. Please subscribe to it, you. 474 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: Know, Alex. 475 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: Tonight there's a debate going on. I don't know if 476 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: you heard, and some people will be watching it. They 477 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 2: will come away with conclusions. Just want to let you 478 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: weigh in as we are just hours away from game time. 479 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: We were talking before, the fact that Biden is even 480 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: going to be up there on the stage in some 481 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: ways feels surreal. 482 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, look, I don't usually want to, but 483 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 6: I'm gonna watch this. This is gonna be pretty good, 484 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 6: I think, And so, I mean, it is true. The 485 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 6: expectations for you know, Donald Trump are like every word 486 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 6: he says is going to be incredibly closely parsed and 487 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 6: you know, maybe taken out of context as we know 488 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 6: that happens. The expectations with Joe Biden that basically he 489 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 6: doesn't have a stroke on stage, right. Yeah, So the 490 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 6: expectations are different for the two guys, but it's still 491 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 6: going to be very interesting. 492 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: Do you think Biden's going to be the guy? Like 493 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're paying attention to the polls everything else. 494 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: Do you think they're gonna stick with him? 495 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 6: Oh? I think I actually think this really matters for 496 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 6: that if he flames out in a notable way. I mean, 497 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 6: if he has one of those momentsories he freezes up 498 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 6: for a minute and they can't spend it, they can't 499 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 6: say that, you know, there's a parachute, it's just out 500 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 6: of frame or whatever, you know, whatever it is, it's 501 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 6: gonna be very hard for them if if you know, 502 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 6: it wasn't. If he has a few missteps, I think 503 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 6: I think he probably gets by and certainly, you know, 504 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 6: if he actually like holds it together as he you know, 505 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 6: he sometimes has shown himself capable of doing when he has, 506 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 6: you know, able to sort of a week to rest 507 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 6: and advance and you know, and can really focus. I 508 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 6: think he will be the nominee, but I do think, 509 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 6: I do think that if he winds up like having 510 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 6: one of those freeze outs, it's gonna be hard for 511 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 6: him to continue. 512 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Who do you think if that happened? 513 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 6: Oh oh, that's a really you know, that's a that's 514 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 6: a whole different question. Right. I can't I can't even 515 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 6: begin to guess who it would be, right. I mean, 516 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 6: I can begin to guess, but I can't. I guess 517 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 6: I can't handicap it. 518 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be calm. I don't see. That's 519 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: why you have a vice president. I keep talking, she 520 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: has no home if they move on. 521 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 6: Right, This is exactly the argument, right. 522 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: Which is why they're going to keep him in place. 523 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: Do you have a I say, jd Vance play. I 524 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: don't know, Clay. What are you saying? Tim Scott? 525 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't know you. No, I'm not as confident in 526 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: Tim Scott as I used to be. But I don't 527 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: know if I can. I don't know if I could 528 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: pull the ripcord on my predictions. 529 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 6: Play. 530 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: There's room for you on Team jd Vance for VP 531 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: over here, but letting you know, we kept a seat 532 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: warm for you. 533 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: Alex, what do you think Trump VP? 534 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 6: Is it Rubio the bold choice? Uh? You know, a 535 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 6: Hispanic candidate? I mean, doesn't that really make it interesting? 536 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: He's in the top three right now according to The 537 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: New York Times. I think reporting today that it's burghum 538 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: uh jd Vance and Rubio. 539 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 6: You know, I mean, I listen, I think I think that. 540 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, one thing that Trump has shown 541 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 6: in the last few months that he really doesn't get 542 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 6: any credit for us. He wants to win this time. 543 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 6: I mean, he's being more careful about what he's said saying. 544 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 6: I know he's still me anders sometimes that you know, 545 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 6: in these long rallies, but he won't. He's he's rained 546 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 6: himself in and you know you got to believe that. 547 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 6: And somebody, I mean that would say Rubio or Advance, 548 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 6: right because Vance, you know, Vance is a Midwestern guy. 549 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 6: Rubio is you know, it's Hispanic. I think I think 550 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 6: Rubio makes it really interesting. 551 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: All right, Well, check out Alex Parence and Substack everybody 552 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: on reported Drew's and Alex, yeah, please go with at 553 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court and stop the Biden regime from destroying 554 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: the First Amendment? Can you can you handle that force? 555 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 6: Listen? If I can't do it, then nobody can. I mean, 556 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 6: I don't want to, you know, I will do my best. 557 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 6: I'll just say that. 558 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: All right. 559 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: Well you have your mission, sir, So there you go. 560 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Alex, good to talk to you. All right, guys, 561 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: guess the percentage of people who would make this move 562 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: reducing your salary voluntarily as the head of a company 563 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: to a new form of compensation where you only get 564 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: paid a dollar in cash. I mean, that sounds kind 565 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: of crazy, right, But my friend Porter Stansbury, he's the 566 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: founder and CEO of very successful financial research company. He's 567 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: done exactly that. His salary is a dollar a year, 568 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: and that is his choice because he sees a new 569 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: form of money in America making some people very rich. 570 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: You don't need to be a CEO to obtain this 571 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: new kind of compensation. 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I would 588 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: imagine that some of you might perhaps have a tasty 589 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: beverage that you consume while you're watching the debate tonight. 590 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: There are gambling market odds Buck on what phrases Trump 591 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: will say or won't say during the course of the debate. 592 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you guess. You tell me whether you 593 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: would take the bet or not. Will Trump say fake 594 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: news during the debate tonight? Absolutely yes, I agree news. 595 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: You can make some money on that sixty four percent chance. 596 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: I think you're one hundred percent right. Will he say 597 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: crack tonight during the debate. No, no, Ali's also going 598 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: to weigh in, Ali producer, Ali, you both say no. 599 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Twenty percent gambling chance that he'll say crack. Will he 600 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: say sleepy Joe? Yes, you go yes, Ali, No, thirty 601 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: eight percent chance so you can more than double your 602 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: money If he says sleepy Joe, Will he say putin yes, yes, yes, 603 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: seventy eight percent chance will he say rigged? I hope not. Yes, 604 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Ali might hope not 605 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: he will say rigged. Here's a fun one. He's been 606 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: talking a lot about sharks. Trump is a big shark guy, 607 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: obsessed with Shark Week. This is all true. Will he 608 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: mention sharks during the debate tonight? No, no, no, no, no. 609 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: But Trump loves sharks and always wants. At one of 610 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: his rallies recently, he was talking about the juice. Actually 611 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: thought it was funny. He was getting criticized for it. 612 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: He was saying, would you be if you were in 613 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: a sinking boat, more afraid of, like getting electrocuted because 614 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: of all the electricity going in, or more afraid of sharks? Oh? 615 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 2: Definitely sharks, I think so. Question Yeah, electric like being electrocuted? Eh, whatever, 616 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: shark's scary. 617 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: Will he say dementia? No, I think he's gonna be sensitive. Yeah, 618 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: nineteen I don't think a chance, he said, I don't know. 619 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna be sensitive ally, but 620 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna say dementia. 621 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: Will he mention hunter? Yes, I agree, seventy six percent chance. Ali, 622 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: you gotta just step in here and give us a 623 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 1: strong opinion. You can't. You can't watch all these pitches 624 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: fly by. 625 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 6: Come here. I know. I'm just wondering how many people 626 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 6: haven't been advising him, and it's really gonna. 627 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: You're overthinking it. This is where this is where, like 628 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, I did a gambling show for four years. 629 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: You asked me a question. I had an answer, might 630 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: not have been right, but I would have an answer immediately. 631 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: This is on poly market. You can go and wager. 632 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: I think it's really kind of fun on what will 633 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: Trump actually say or not. It is a legitimate, you know, 634 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: gambling market, so you can look at this buck if 635 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: you're curious. Only a nineteen percent chance in their gambling 636 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: markets that Biden is going to drop out of the 637 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: presidential race. So they agree with you that Biden. 638 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: Is the guy in the gambling right now, there's there's 639 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: still room for you if you want to switch to 640 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: to team buck On. Biden will be the nominee. Jd 641 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: Vance will be the VP. Trump won't get double digits 642 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: of the Black vote, and there won't be a double. 643 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Digit change in the Jewish vote. 644 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: If you want to change on any of those, I mean, 645 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: you still have to buy me a stake, but I'm 646 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: letting you. 647 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you switch sides. Okay, I'm gonna take 648 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: you up on that. For one of those offers. I'm 649 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: gonna jump off the Tim Scott vandwagon right now, and 650 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to pick a new horse to ride. There's 651 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: room for you. Are you? 652 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 6: Wow? 653 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Are you going side saddle now on my Jada over here? 654 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Not going jd Vance. I'm going Doug Burgham. I think 655 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: Burgham is gonna be the guy. Wow, you're doubling. 656 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: You're you're you're you're going like double or nothing here 657 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 2: and you're going on team Bergham. 658 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, I am you. 659 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: I my outstretched hand on behalf of jd Vance and 660 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: yet here you are, all right, I'm abandoning. 661 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to Tim Scott and all his supporters. I 662 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: am turning my back. I'm changing horses at midstream. I'm 663 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: jumping on the Doug Bergham Express and the Pony Express. 664 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Burgham now. I am abandoning 665 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: my prior predictions of Tim Scott unless Tim Scott is 666 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: the pick, and which case I will claim that I 667 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: never changed ever and will refute all arguments to the contrary. 668 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 2: It's a good thing we have a podcast so people 669 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 2: can go and they can check these things as they 670 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 2: wish on demand. But Burgham is Clay's pick and Jade 671 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: Evance is what I'm coming down on. Still still now 672 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: months into the mix here, Cy, I'm excited to talk 673 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 2: to everybody about this tomorrow. And it feels like we'll 674 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 2: be entering a new phase of the presidential election right 675 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,959 Speaker 2: just just twenty four hours, less than twenty four hours 676 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 2: from now. 677 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: So are you gonna live tweet this thing? I think So, 678 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 1: You've got a big event that you're doing in Palm Beach, 679 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to rush to your hotel room 680 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: right after. I think I'm gonna do a live I'm 681 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: gonna do a live reaction for OutKick. They asked me 682 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: to do it, so I'll do fifteen or twenty minutes 683 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 1: right after it's over, but then we're gonna have three 684 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: hours breaking it all down tomorrow. It feels a lot 685 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl, and I really feel after all 686 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: of this, nothing's gonna ultimately change. Like you just said, Monday, 687 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: you got brand new huge Supreme Court opinions, a holiday. 688 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be fun, but it's not 689 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna actually change anything. Sounds good, everybody. We'll talk to 690 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Looking forward to