1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh, good time, Steve Tasker, fust fucks down down time. 2 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Here we go. It is Wednesday. It is one build 3 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Fide presented by Kalid of Health from One Bill Drive. 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's John Murphy and Steve Tasker right next 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: door to New Ara Field where the Bills play and 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: event you to look get the field put in there 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: looks like a little work going on there right now 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: with a little bit more like a bee hive today. 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: There's there's two human beings out. There's the three machines 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: that are dead. You know he's sitting there. Yeah, they 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: get they cut those what are those drainage things at 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: the corner of the state images. I don't know. I'm 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: looking at it. They got a little trenches dug and 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: a little fresh concrete poured out there, and you know 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: they're just getting it together over there. That's gonna be 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 1: a brand new field. And you know what, I I've 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: always thought they should do this. I think you know 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: that for those of you have been at New air Field, 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: you have to have the charging buffalo symbol just like 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: the one on the sides of the helmet is in 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. That's gonna be bigger that's 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: what I hear. Oh yeah, I see it needs to 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: be bigger. So like when the Jets, you know, the 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: Jets fly over, they look down and say, well, there 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: it is right there. Look symbol can see it from 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: the sky. That's where we're going. And that's where we're going. 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: That's where you need. Good afternoon and walked down the show. 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: It is Red Shirt Day. The Red Shirt group is 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: here today, myself and Steve. At least they're not identical, right, 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean no, they are different during the winter a 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: couple of times we want we want up with identical. 32 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: You have more of a substantial logo on your ears. 33 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm more. I'm a more substantial man than yeah, and 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: mine's yeah more would be a good word. Yours is subdued. 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: Your bill's logo is subdued, right, it's bold. I'm messy, yeah, 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: my and my my logo on the is a different 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: color than yours. I got the blue Nikes, yeah, and 38 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: I got the white Nike. And you don't have an 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: NFL equipment equipment And the shirt could be uh well, 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: I've been here almost seven years. This shirt could be 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: six years old. And that's an see true tone red 42 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: the back of your shirt is actually a different color 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: red than the Oh yeah, I goes dark and the 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: sleeves are and mine is one solid. You know, how 45 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: many ways can you slice these bills? Polos? But it's 46 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: amazing hundred maybe? Yeah, how's this going for the folks listening? 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: Radio's the show working for you so far? Right, most 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: of our listeners, right, welcome to the show. Quiet day. 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: It seems a little quiet here today. No OTA practice 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: for the bills today, but plenty of players here for conditioning. 51 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Another day of voluntary offseason conditioning today. OTAs resumed tomorrow. 52 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: One more OTA on Friday, and then next week Tuesday, Wednesday, 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: Thursday the mandatory minicamp and then that's it for about 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: five weeks. Also, this May fifth, no June fifth. This 55 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: is June fifth, Red letter day for my family, my 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: mom and dad, Gordon and Joyanne. Yeah, sixty five years today, 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: married sixty five married sixty five years today. There my 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: brothers and they're having a big party this weekend. But 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: they're all coming up here for in two weekends for 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: a wedding. We've got here. But um Gordon enjoying sixty 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: five years married today, So I gotta shout out to 62 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: my mom and dad. My I talked to my mom 63 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: this morning. He said, hey, happy anniversary and all that. 64 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, he goes, you know how you know 65 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: why it worked? And I go why? She says, because 66 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: I'm here at home doing what I want. You're and 67 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Gordon's on the golf course. It's pretty good. Good prescription. 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: She just turned eighty nine. My dad's a couple of 69 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: months younger. He's he's eighty eight still but almost. He'll 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: be a eighty nine in July ten. Right, so he's 71 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: eighty eight out playing Wow, golf. Great. So they were 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: married that is eighteen fifty four, I think so, yeah, 73 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: fifty three or fifty four something like that. Yeah, man, Yeah, 74 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: that's a long time congratulation sixty five years to them. 75 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: And it was funny. Jim kelly golf tournament was this 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: last Weekend's thirty third annual, right, Right, I've missed one 77 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: that I know of. There might have been another one, 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: but I missed one of those golf tournaments for their 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: fiftieth and that was a big deal, right, it was 80 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. It's fifteen years ago. The last one 81 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: of Kelly's golf tournaments. Im is for their fiftieth at 82 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: wedding anniversary. And now it's a blinked later. It's so 83 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: five years. What is the twenty fifth anniversary? Is the 84 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: diamond anniversary? Right? Is the gold anniversary? Twenty fifth is silver? Silver? 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: There you go, yeah, what do you think sixty five is? 86 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: So we look it up. We have a computer. Well 87 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: let's just ask you what did you send them through 88 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: their anniversary plane? You know what, plane tickets? They're coming 89 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: up in a couple of weeks. They're grand No, no, no, 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: they're they're they're what is it. They're great, isn't their grandson? Yeah, 91 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: their grandson, their grandson, My kid is getting married. We 92 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: having the wedding celebration up here in on the fifteenth. 93 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: So they're coming up. My three older brothers, wives coming up, 94 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: the whole, the whole, you know, families coming up for that. 95 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: So what we Yeah, that's that's great. We're gonna wait 96 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: till then. Now my brothers, my they're my three brothers 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: are there. They're all going to get together this this 98 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: week and have a little get together and and that 99 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: kind of thing. But yeah, that's great. You very proud 100 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: of mom and dad. Here's what you need to get 101 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: them the traditional and modern gifts for the sixty fifth 102 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: winning anniversary. Blue sapphire, I get jew jewelry. Yeah, sixty 103 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: five years of marriage, sapphire, blue sapphire, gemstone, star sapphire. 104 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: You've got connections in the jewelry industry. I know a guy. 105 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's probably not gonna happen sixty fifth. Come on, man, 106 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: blue sapphire, I like blue diamond is the sixtieth apparently 107 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: what Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Sapphire is associated with 108 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: sixtieth anniversary. There you go, the awesome, there you go. 109 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, and congratulations of mister missus Tasker 110 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: out in wearing Kansas Winfield, kans Field, Kansas, which is 111 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: near Wichita. Yes, right southeast of Wichita. Excellent, congratulations to them. 112 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: They watch and listen right Well, she said she's not 113 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: going to because rdon's on the golf course and she 114 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: didn't know how to work yet. I think to get 115 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: padio dot com, so she's gonna. I said, you can 116 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: go back and listen to it later. She's I don't 117 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: think I can do that either. I don't know how 118 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: to Okay, yeah, they'll listen. Congratulation so them. I've met 119 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: him both. They're wonderful people. And they'll be here next week. 120 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: They'll be here. That's about ten days. Excellent. Welcome to 121 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: the show. If you're tuned in whether or not you've 122 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: been married for sixty sixty five years, right, that's a 123 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: long time, man. It's longer than I've been alive. And 124 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: you too, that's yeah, I've been alive for a while. Yeah, excellent, 125 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: Good for them all right, on the show today, it's 126 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a little Bill's Talk today. And this came 127 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: up at on Monday at the Jim Kelly golf tournament 128 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: in Batavia. Kelly steps to the podium, asked about a 129 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: variety of things, asked about Josh Allen, and among other things, 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: he said that he has met he told the Buffalo 131 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: News anyway, he has met with Bill's offense coordinator, Brian Daybleu, 132 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: and with Ken Dorsey, the quarterbacks coach, and with Josh Allen. 133 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: Um he's met them, he has been around him. He 134 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: says he's ready to provide input for Josh Ellen as 135 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: much as as much as they as much as they 136 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: would need. And it got people thinking about him, and 137 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: I saw something in the Rochester paper this morning that said, 138 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: pump the brakes, Kelly's not going to be coaching the Bills. Well, 139 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: nobody said that. I don't think Kelly even hinted at 140 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: that the other day, but he has met with him. 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: You had an interesting perspective that Kelly has done this 142 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: pretty much on a regular basis for years here right mat. 143 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: He's always had a really good, really good relationship with 144 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: different coaching staffs who've been through there, Dick, duron Chan, Gailey, 145 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, Gosh Malarkey, he and all the quarterback He's 146 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: always touched base with every quarterback who's taken snaps for 147 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: the Bills, the starting guys like me, Fitzpatrick, and all 148 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: the way through the whole roster of guys. He had 149 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: a relationship with Drew Bledsoe when he was here. All 150 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: those guys Jim has touched base with and became friends 151 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: with and was well acquainted. And I know it's not 152 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: the first time he actually does probably does sit in 153 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: meetings because a guy like Jim, it's a lot like 154 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: a guy like Frank Rye or any other quarterback you 155 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: can name. They got they have they have an ability 156 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: to watch film like a quarterback and bounce things off, 157 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: and they know and even though they may not speak 158 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: the current language that the Bills are using in their offense, 159 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: he can say you know this this you know, they 160 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: can point to things on the film and say this 161 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: is what I always saw and this is what we did. 162 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: Because it's the same eleven guys today. It's the same 163 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: number of guys eleven on a side today as it 164 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: was in nineteen twenty seven when all these other you know, 165 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: they first started the league. It's eleven guys aside. So 166 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: every concept and everything that has been tried over the 167 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: years has always had an answer to it. And Jim 168 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: and his experience and all that time, he's seen the 169 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: answers to all the problems and the things that will 170 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: work against certain concepts. And to have it there at 171 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: your fingertips and have a guy who played it be 172 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: able to say here's here's why. Sometimes it has a 173 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: little level of credibility. And the way a quarterback speaks 174 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: to another quarterback is different sometimes than a coach t 175 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: spot speaking to a quarterback. So and plus you know, 176 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer and he's a guy that 177 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: players have a lot of respect. Yeah, so it's he's 178 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: earned it. Yeah, he's not going to change, you know, 179 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: and he's not gonna make or break the season for 180 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: Josh Allen or the coaching staff. But it is a 181 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: it is a trusted voice probably in there for them 182 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: to listen to once in a while. Kelly Sending Monday 183 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: at his golf tournament about Josh Allen. I love the 184 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: way he plays, and he also said that some of 185 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: the bills old k Gun offensive philosophy might be incorporated. 186 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: Kelly's quote, they've downloaded all of our four Super Bowl 187 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: seasons to see what they've done, and Josh loves some 188 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: of the plays that we ran, So we're going to be, 189 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: of course implementing some of those. Why wouldn't you write 190 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: if something has been successful? To Steve said, you would, 191 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: you would use it. I've had other coaches. I've had 192 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: other coaches say the same thing from from different plays. 193 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: They've looked at all four those Super Bowl teams, the 194 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: way that offense ran, and they it's just like they 195 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: download the seventeen and oh or six eighteen and one 196 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: New England Patriots with Randy Moss and Tom Brady. Everybody 197 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: kind of downloads those game and gets a look at 198 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: those as well, What do they do? Why were they 199 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: so successful? A lot of times it boils down to 200 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: some really good concepts with some guys who can really 201 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: flourish within those concepts, really be difficult inside those. That's 202 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: what the k gun was with Jim Andre and Thurman 203 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: and that offensive line they had, And that's the crux 204 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: of the whole thing. I used to tell that's why 205 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Don Shula was such a great coach. He'd come up 206 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: here with a bunch of Dan Marino and a bunch 207 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: of guys, and they were really hard to beat. They 208 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: were always in it because he never asked his players 209 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: to do stuff they couldn't do. You always hear about 210 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: coaches who try to fit und pegs into square holes 211 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: or square pegs into round holes. It just doesn't work. 212 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: And that's part of what happens when teams get better 213 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: throughout the season. The coaches understand what their players do well, 214 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: they ask them to do it, they give them more 215 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: and better ways to do that, and they're tough to 216 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: beat all of a sudden because they're never doing anything 217 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: they're not good at. And that's that's how you win 218 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: football games in the NFL. YEA so the Bills to 219 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: their credits say yeah, of course we talk with Jim, 220 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: and we'll continue to talk with Jim. Sean McDermott at 221 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: his news conference yesterday said, we find every possible way 222 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: to improve our team. This is no different Jim. As 223 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: a Hall of famer, McDermott said to me, it would 224 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: be ignorant of us not to have a relationship with 225 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: Jim and ask him what he thinks. Knowing we have 226 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: a young quarterback, all of that is healthy. All of 227 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: that is healthy, all of that is good. It makes 228 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: a ton of sense, and it leads us to our 229 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: question today, our Twitter poll question, like air, what you 230 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: think about all this? You can do it on the 231 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: phone lines at eight oh three oh five fifty or 232 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 233 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: You do it on Twitter at one bills five. We 234 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: may read some of your tweets on the tweet sheet 235 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: coming up a little bit later on the show. Exactly 236 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: how is the question? Exactly how can Jim Kelly help 237 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: Josh Allen the most. He's got a wealth of knowledge, 238 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: obviously tremendous experience, years of perspective both in Buffalo and 239 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: throughout professional football. How can Jim Kelly help Josh Allen 240 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: the most? As our Twitter poll, and here's what we 241 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: put up for the possible responses on Twitter. Can it 242 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: be leadership thirty two percent of you say, yeah, that's 243 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: where it is xes and oh is on the football field. 244 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: Thirty six percent of you say that's how Jim Kelly 245 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: can help the most. Can it be just the concept 246 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: of being the face of the franchise? Twenty two percent 247 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: say that's where Kelly can help the most. Ten percent 248 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: have something else in mind. We got over two hundred 249 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: fifty votes in so far. We'll take as many as 250 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: you can give us over the next three hours, and 251 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: we'll take as many comments as you can give us. 252 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly around the team a little bit, as Steve said, 253 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: it's the way it normally goes. And how can he 254 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: help Josh Allen the most? Especially right now going into 255 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: his second year for Josh Allen, Let's hear what you think. 256 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: Eighth three five fifty two three eight five fifty two 257 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: five fifty that's our question of the day. How can 258 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly help Josh Allen the most? Let's go through 259 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: some of these Steve. Leadership means what to you and 260 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: how could Kelly help Josh Allen in a leadership stamp. Well, 261 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: that's how he communicates to his teammates, what he's like 262 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: in the locker room, what he does with his teammates 263 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: away from the field, how he bonds with them, how 264 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: they look to him, or is he is he part 265 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: of the team. Is he gonna be a guy and 266 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: treat these guys in such a way as they want 267 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: to rally around him. That, as much as anything, elevates 268 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: the play of the entire team when they've got a 269 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: guy taken snaps that they really want to win for 270 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: that they're pulling for that, they want him to be 271 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: successful because he wants them to be successful and he's 272 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: going to help them be successful. When you see a 273 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: quarterback like Josh who, you need a quarterback who. That's 274 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: why a lot is made of it. Quarterbacks get in 275 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: the building it before everybody, and they stay after everybody 276 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: well no matter what they do inside there. One of 277 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: the reasons is it shows the guys on the team 278 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: that you're doing the extra things to win. You're an 279 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: important player. Your hands are on the ball every snap, 280 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: and when you're working really hard, everybody else that sets 281 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: the bar for everybody else. Everybody else will work hard 282 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: because they trust that you're doing the extra things. That's 283 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: the kind of leadership you're talking about. Plus being a 284 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: guy they can talk to and who can talk to 285 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: them and holds him accountable. Just being a really good 286 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: teammate and being there in every respect for the team 287 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: and setting the tone with your work ethic. I mean, 288 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: that's that's what we're talking about when we say leadership. 289 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: For me, it is Yeah, I get that. I agree 290 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: with that. I would say this though, I think Josh's 291 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: a pretty good leader already. And there were comments even 292 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: this week from Kyle Williams, former Bill's defensive tackle. Now, 293 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: just about how Josh acts as a leader, what he 294 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: does as a leader, hard he works, how much he 295 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: it's time he spends interacting with his teammates. I think 296 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: that might be one of Josh Allen's strong suits already. 297 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: So yes, while you would want to get Kelly's perspective 298 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: on that, I don't know if that's how he Kelly 299 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: can help Josh Ellen the most. Right now, here's the thing. 300 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: It's not about Jim Kelly getting Josh Allen to be 301 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: like Jim Kelly right, it's Jim Kelly helping Josh to 302 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: be his best, finding out where's his strengths are, and 303 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: helping him be his own guy, his own leader. It's 304 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: not about being Jim. It's about being him and being 305 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: genuine and Kyle Williams said, you gotta be yourself, right, 306 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: and that's what everybody will tell you you can. Anybody 307 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: can lead by being the best version of himself because 308 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: the best version of yourself is the one people want 309 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: to be around. And that's the key to the whole thing. 310 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, you've got. Your team has to be for 311 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: you in every way, shape and form, personally and professionally. 312 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: And that's where Jim can help. It's not about making 313 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen into Jim Kelly. It's about making Josh Allen 314 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: as good as he can possibly be in his own skin. 315 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm not discounting leadership. In fact, I know it's important. 316 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: I just think Josh does a pretty good job as 317 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: a leader already, and it is getting better, it would 318 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: seem almost every day. But I wouldn't go to that 319 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: for a number one. Number two, how can Jim Kelly 320 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: help Josh Allen the most xs and ohs and this, 321 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: quite frankly, is where I would vote Steve. And it's 322 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: not that Josh struggles with that, but the Bills have 323 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: said it. He needs to be a better decision maker. 324 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: People have said it, observers who've come on our show. 325 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: But he needs to have who is a couple of 326 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: weeks ago said he needs to have a plan B 327 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: right and not just go to the line of scrimmage, 328 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: look at a defense and only have one option. And 329 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: he's to have a couple of options. I think that's important. 330 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: And I think with Kelly's background and Kelly's Hall of 331 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: Fame success, he'd be able to sit in the film 332 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: room with Josh Allen and say, see this, when the 333 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: safety does that, then look for this or look for that. 334 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: I would vote XS and o's in this one. But 335 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: what do you think I might be that I might 336 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: go there as well, And simply because I liked what 337 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I heard from Josh every step of the way last year. 338 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: We all talk about you know, particularly here in Buffalo, 339 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: and you and I especially because we dissected every play 340 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: he had last year, and those last six or seven games, 341 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: maybe eight games of the season when he was starting, 342 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: we're compelling to watch and every week he got better 343 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: and better. I've talked about it a million times. You 344 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: could see a casual fan could see how much better 345 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: he got. And the last game of the season, the 346 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: guy hung forty two points on the Dolphins. He threw 347 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: for three touchdowns, ran for two. He was the best 348 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: player on the field. And he had a sixty five 349 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: percent plus completion percentage. And that's always been the ugaboo 350 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: with him. He's not accurate, he can't complete well. He 351 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: has sixty five He completed a sixty five and a 352 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: half percent of his passes in Week seventeen. Last week 353 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: in the last game he played, and they asked him 354 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: what was different, and he said, listen, I was just 355 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: taking the easy completion. That was the step they had 356 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: decided to take that we just take the easy one. 357 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: Just take the easy one. He did it. If he 358 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: can continue to do that, man, what else you know? 359 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's an enormous step, and not just statistically, 360 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: but production wise. The guy had a great game. And 361 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: that's where if you get a guy like Jim in there, 362 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: who can who can reiterate that and lend credence to 363 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: that and convince him even further that that's the way 364 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: to go. Man, your team's gonna get better in an 365 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: exponential way. It's gonna take a big leap forward. Question 366 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: on the floor, how can Jim Kelly help Josh Allen? 367 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: The most and the third option in our Twitter poll, 368 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: twenty two percent of you think he can help Josh 369 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: him in being the face of the franchise. I don't 370 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: know how to talk about this one. I don't know 371 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: how you do that. I know Jim was a face 372 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: of the franchise. I think Josh is clearly emerging as 373 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: the face of the franchise. But man, what would you 374 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: tell somebody about that? Like, go to this event, don't 375 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: go to that, or um, you want to be seen 376 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: at this restaurant? I mean, what does that mean? Steve, 377 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: help me out. You're kind of a face of the franchise. 378 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: You are, I got a perfect face for radio. So 379 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: but how do you how do you teach the franchise. 380 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: Here's and here's what you know. And it's different in 381 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: Buffalo than it is in New York. It's different Buffalo 382 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: than it is, you know, in most other cities. But 383 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: to be the face of the franchise, this means this 384 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: You've got a lot more on your plate than a 385 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: special teams guy like I was. You're you're required, and 386 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: you have duties that go beyond any other player. When 387 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: you're going into a game, you have to do production 388 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: meetings every Saturday before the game or Friday if it's 389 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: a home game. You got to talk to the broadcast crew. 390 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: You got to spend an hour with guys like Tone 391 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Romo and Jim nance and and Troy Aikman and Joe Buck. 392 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: You gotta sit down with him and you got to 393 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: talk about the game and give them some things that 394 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: they can think about while they're broadcasting the game. You 395 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: got to stay after at during the day. You got 396 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: to come in earlier, go home later. You have to 397 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: do press conferences after every practice. We see Josh all 398 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: the time. We carry all Josh's stuff live. He's at 399 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: the podium every week. He's the guy that when the 400 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: wh when your team gets good, you're gonna have to 401 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: spend time during the week sitting down doing interviews for 402 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: the weekend pregame shows. You're gonna have to be the 403 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: guy that goes in and when you go to a place, 404 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do a press conference. When you 405 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, you're gonna have to do podium interviews. 406 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: When you do when when anything happens with this team, 407 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: you're the first guy that has to start answering questions 408 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: about any controversy with your team. You're the guy that 409 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: sets the voice of the team, who says, this is 410 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: how our players feel about it, and ABC and D 411 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: and you lay it out. You're the guy that the 412 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: media comes to when anything noteworthy happens to your team, 413 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: no matter what, even if it's good and bad. You 414 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: got to be the guy, and you've got to be 415 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: ready to handle it with grace and dignity and looking 416 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: out for your teammates. You got to be willing to 417 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: take all the blame and give away all the credit. 418 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: That's what it means. You can't take any credit. You 419 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: only take blame. You give the credit, and you accept 420 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: the blame for everything. To stop you there for a second. 421 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: And I love Jim, but that didn't come naturally to 422 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: him early in It took it took three or four years. 423 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: It's a long time. He'll tell you that he had 424 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: a lot to learn. Yeah, he had lots to learn, 425 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: but being his fun he learned it. Yeah, he knew. Yeah, 426 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: he would listen, he went through some hard lessons. Yeah, 427 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the bickering Bills of nineteen eighty nine, 428 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: that was because of Jim, basically. Yeah, now it was. 429 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: And you know what, he not too many guys. And 430 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: Jim was one of a kind. Even today, I don't 431 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: know that there's any other quarterback could have dug himself 432 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: out of the hole he dug himself into. Right, Yeah, 433 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: you're right. He I mean it took him a long 434 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: time to stop digging the hole that he dug for himself, 435 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: and but he did, and he learned from it, and he, unbelievably, 436 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: the guy turned into one of the great teammates of 437 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: all time after being a complete jackass. Remember I didn't 438 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: say right, He'll tell you and listen, Jim and I 439 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: I love the guy. We're friends. We had a we 440 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: had a conversation at the golf tournament. We were just marveling. 441 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: I think he was. And he'd laughed now about it. 442 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: But you know what, he turned into the all time 443 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: greatest teammate. You go to the talk to guys in 444 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame when they sit down in the 445 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: ray Nichky luncheon, Jim's got a big voice in there. 446 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: That's the kind of teammate he is, and he evolved 447 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: into that. So that's I think that may be the 448 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: thing that he understands better than any player in the NFL. 449 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: M This is the part of the show where we 450 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: make the show up as we go along. You've been 451 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: in contact with your friend Jim, and he may come 452 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: on the show today. He asked me for a time. Okay, 453 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: so we're moving along. If he does come out, can 454 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: I quote you what you just said? He became a 455 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: great teammate after let me do it. I don't want 456 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: you tell him what I'm entire because I gotta say 457 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: it to his face. He might have changed his mind 458 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: after you with Jack as he used to be. Yes, 459 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: he'll tell you that I can change it back again 460 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: because he may tell you how much for the jackass 461 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: I was so, oh yeah, we have funny of time 462 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: for that, right. So nobody learned those tough lessons in 463 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: more public ways, particularly in this town, than Jim did. 464 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: And I think if you're talking about what he could 465 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: translate to Josh Allen by telling him a couple of 466 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: the stories that he went through. Josh, if he's wise, 467 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: which I think he is. Those are the ones that 468 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 1: would be would be the funniest to listen to at 469 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: this point in history, but also the ones that are 470 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: most telling. All right, well, we look forward to this 471 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: is going to be a discussion we have all day. 472 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: How can Jim look came out Monday. Jim said he's 473 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: been in the film room with the Bills quarterbacks and 474 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: Brian Dable. How can Jim Kelly help Josh All on 475 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: the most what's your opinion? Give us a call eight 476 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: three fifty and twelve three one eight eight five fifty 477 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: two five fifty On the show today, we're gonna have 478 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: Bill's wide receiver David Sills, the free agent signe from 479 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: West Virginia, rookie free agent scheduled to join us in 480 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes here on the show one o'clock. 481 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: Field Yates from ESPN. He says the Bills are the 482 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: most improved team this offseason in the NFL. We'll talk 483 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: with Field Jates about that, and we'll go back into 484 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: Bill's history Super Bowl era with one of Steve's former teammates, 485 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: Leonard Smith safety. We both said high to him over 486 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: the weekend and it's a guy we have not had 487 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: on the show, I don't think in a while, if 488 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: at all. And just to catch up with Leonard Smith 489 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: coming up around two o'clock or so, right, he's one 490 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: of your teammates. Oh yeah, I played with him. He 491 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: played against us, and he's one of the few guys 492 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: I remember playing against us, making a play against us, 493 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: and then like the next year was with us. Yeah, 494 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: so I was like, wow, okay, cool, we got him. 495 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember I remember Bills traded for him, a 496 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: former first round pick in nineteen eighty nine. I want 497 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: to say they traded the guy who I thought I 498 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: knew he was a good guy. Wasn't a Sean mcnanny 499 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: who got traded for Leonard Smith. Remember Sean mcnanny. Oh yeah, 500 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: I remember. I think that was a trade. I think 501 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: so because at the time I was like, wow, they 502 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: got a pretty good player for Sean mcnanny, another pretty 503 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: good player and anyway, yeah, we'll talk with Leonards. Remember 504 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: that you might be right, but I did not look 505 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: in at that I could be wrong. Welcome to the show, 506 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Steve and I here until three A lot of Bills 507 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: talk to get to, including our topic of the day. 508 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: If Jim Kelly is in fact, and we believe he is, 509 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: both sides confirmed that he is helping with Josh Allen 510 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: with the Bills, not coaching officially, not calling plays, not 511 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: on the practice field, instructing. But how what would be 512 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: the most help Jim could provide Josh Allen? What do 513 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: you think? Eighth three five fifty toll free one eight 514 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty Nicholas on Hamburg 515 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: to get us started today, Hello Nicholas, go ahead, all right, 516 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: thanks guys. Um. What here's the thing that I think 517 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: about as far as Jim can help us out. Number one, 518 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: when coach Levy he he gave Jim all the power, 519 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: he called all the plays, you know, and what happened 520 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: is he actually was It's like kind of like a 521 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: Peyton manning thing. And I'm thinking if if we could 522 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: we could put Josh in that that type of direction 523 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: and he could he could become that type of quarterback, 524 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: not like a Cam Newton. And I'm not saying that 525 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: Cam Newton's not great, but like, you know, like that 526 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: type of a player where you're a captain and a 527 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: marshal h but are you talking Nicholas that you wanted 528 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: to call plays on the field. Yeah. Yeah. In other words, 529 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: if he could watch the way Jim evolved, like like 530 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: you guys said, into you know, being the offensive coordinator, 531 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback, the greatest player. Well, he's in the Hall 532 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: of Fame, you know. I believe that that's the direction 533 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: I would like him to try to go in. I 534 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: got you, right, I get you. But Nicholas, don't don't 535 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: don't let your perception, I mean, don't let your wishes 536 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: the cloud of the realities of the way it was 537 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: with Jim. He did evolve into that. He didn't just 538 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: turn that on and all of a sudden it happened. 539 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: We showed some flashes in some desperation times where Jim 540 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: would call the plays very quickly and we go and 541 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: we had great success doing that for stretches, and then 542 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: we decided to incorporate it in a bigger way to 543 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: our offense. But Teddy Marcher Broda was very involved in 544 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: everything that went on, and there were and one reason 545 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: that it worked for Jim and it wouldn't work for 546 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks is because of Jim's unselfishness, and that displayed 547 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: itself in a multitude of ways. One at the height 548 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: of that offense, when Jim called all the plays, he 549 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: could have thrown the ball ninety percent of the time 550 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: and only handed it off ten We were fifty fifty. 551 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: Jim handed the ball to Thurman as much as he 552 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: threw it. That's one of the reasons it was successful. 553 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: It was also that was one of the ways he 554 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: was unselfish as well, and one of the reasons for 555 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: its success. Another one of the ways that he was 556 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: unselfish was it was nothing for him. It was very 557 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: common for him to look to the sideline and Teddy 558 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: Marcha Brodo or Frank Reich, somebody would signal him what 559 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: they were thinking a play. We didn't have the radios 560 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: back then. We had quick hand signals and it would 561 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: bring something to his mind. A particularly a guy like 562 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: Frank Reich who was watching in folk on what Jim 563 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: was doing. And they had such a relationship and they 564 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: spent so much time together. They didn't have to really 565 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: talk to understand each other. But Jim would look to 566 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: the sidelines and Frank Wright could contribute, or ted Marcher 567 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: Broda could talk to Frank and they could come up 568 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: with something and give something to Jim. Or get his attention, 569 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: give him a play to call that maybe wasn't at 570 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: the top of Jim's mental list, and he would go 571 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: to that. So Jim's unselfishness and look into the sideline 572 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: and accepting plays to be called for him in situations 573 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: was also a way that he was unselfish and added 574 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: to the success of that offense. It didn't happen overnight. 575 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: It happened over the course of four three or four years. 576 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: He came in eighty six, and it wasn't until eighty 577 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: eight when the team, you know, got to twelve and 578 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: four and got to the championship game. And even then 579 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: we weren't running the no huddle, you know, And then 580 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: we even regressed in nineteen eighty nine became bickering bills 581 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: where nine and seven got to the playoffs and we're 582 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: out in the first game. So it was it was 583 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: a struggle to get there. But it was because of 584 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Jim's unselfishness more than his ability to call his own 585 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: plays that caused that to work, because of the contributions 586 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: he allowed with all the power that you refer to 587 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: that marvelead. He gave him. Thanks for your call, Let's 588 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: go to the tweet sheet it is brought to you 589 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills, 590 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: and an interesting tweet from a frequent correspondent with US, 591 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Bryan Rossignal, who says, I have trouble answering this. That's 592 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: good reflection, Brian. He said, I would say his hindsight 593 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: navigating the process tampering, anxiety tempering. I think he means 594 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: to say anxieties and expectations. No offense to Jim, but 595 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: it's got to be hard to be the man with 596 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: Jim around. That's the part that come out. You think 597 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: it is, Steve. You think it's hard to be the man. 598 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: As far as the Bills, you know, franchise quarterback we 599 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: talked about a few minutes ago. You think it's hard 600 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: for Jess to do that with Jim Kelly around. Certainly 601 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: Josh will always be held to a certain standard that 602 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: Kelly established twenty or twenty five years ago now, but 603 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a long time ago. Many fans said, 604 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: no recollection of how Jim Kelly was, how he played, 605 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: how he led. You know what I'm saying, Josh, He's 606 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: gonna joshu la Vault and Josh as a man. I mean, 607 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna embrace it. He's gonna become that his play. 608 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: We haven't seen enough of him yet. Um, Jim is 609 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: an iconic figure. He's Jim's not the man anymore. He's 610 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: just like an icon, you know what I mean. He's 611 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: a he's a he's a kind of a public treasure 612 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: right here in in western New York. Um, as soon 613 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: as John straps in on, as soon as Josh straps 614 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: it on walks down that tunnel. Oh, he's the guy 615 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: and he knows it, and he's gonna he's gonna play 616 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: like it. And he's gonna have to evolve into that 617 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: role if he wants to be successful, and he'll do 618 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: it his way. He's not gonna be like Jim, Right, 619 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a different He's gonna be his own 620 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: player in his own way. He's gonna play the game 621 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: his own way. His offense is gonna look different than 622 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: Jim's offense did. The players around him are gonna be different, 623 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: the coaching staffs different, even the error he plays in 624 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: is different. It's a different game. So Josh's gonna do 625 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: it his way. Um, and his what is he plays, 626 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: will dictate as to how he handles it's that has 627 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: a lot to do. Yeah, I say this, and much 628 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: of what we when we talk about this today, much 629 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: of what we talk about is going to be about 630 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: how Kelly was as a leader, as a player, as 631 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: an x AS and those guy. But I do want 632 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: to make note of how good Josh Allen is with 633 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: this sort of situation. He really is. People ask me 634 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: all last year. You know what, there's a lot to 635 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: be impressed about regarding Josh Allen. One of the things 636 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: that I've been most impressed with in the what thirteen 637 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: fourteen months he's been around is how he treats his elders, 638 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: his elderly not elderly, his more veteran teammates. How he 639 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: respects them, and he doesn't you know, he needs to 640 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: be a little bit cocky. Obviously they all do to 641 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: be succeed at that position. But he also has a 642 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: certain level of respect I think for people who've been 643 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: here in this league and done this before, players and coaches, 644 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: and that comes out with Josh Allen, and I think 645 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: that's important to note. You know, he's not like a brash, 646 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: confident I have all the answers kind of guy, not 647 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: at all. He will. He will embrace Jim Kelly and 648 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: what he has to offer. Sure, And yeah, he's a 649 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: Josh is a great guy, good kid heads, He's got 650 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: his head on his shoulders perfectly, he's got his feet 651 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: on the ground. He's just he does everything well. You 652 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: gotta remember he came to Buffalo as this number seven 653 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: overall pick and with all the hoop law and stuff, 654 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: and it was not even a percentage of the coop 655 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: law and the expectations that accompany Jim when he had 656 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: a parade from the airport and people were hanging off 657 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: the overpasses. I mean, nobody's ever come in and been 658 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: anointed like Jim Kelly in any franchise, in any team 659 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: in NFL history. Right, that's a true statement. No player 660 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: has ever arrived at a franchise and been treated with 661 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: more expectations, more hoop law, more attention, more whatever you 662 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: want to call it than Jim Kelly when he arrived 663 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Nobody ever, and of course we all know 664 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: he came through in the biggest way ever. He went 665 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame at that spot. Josh is 666 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: not under that same kind of microscope. We're kind of 667 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: waiting and seeing. On Josh, there was no way and see. 668 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: On Jim it was week one, was week one of 669 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: the season, no training camp, no preseason, let's go and 670 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: and So it's different for Josh and he's in a 671 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: better position to evolve into it. I think he's got 672 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: he's handling it extremely well so far. You, Jim pre 673 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure he preceded you by a couple of months 674 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: here in the Bill's roster. He came in week one. 675 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I came in week ten, eleven ten or eleven November. Okay, yeah, 676 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: all right, let's go to Dave in Florida. Hello, Dave, 677 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. You're on the air with this. 678 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: How you doing, guys? Great? Ahad good, good, good. Listen. 679 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm Michalka. I'm listening about Jim Kelly. Scroll back to 680 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: the day or the k Gun. Now we're gonna make 681 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: it to j Gun. The reason I say that is 682 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: because you're talking about Gore, You're talking about Shady Cole 683 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Beasley in a slot and the offensive line holds it 684 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: for any amount of time. This is gonna work. And 685 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: Kelly's demand he always will be as a guide to 686 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: me anyway, But so is this Josh Allen kid? All right? Thanks? 687 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: You know, when you're out of something interesting. If we 688 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: do get Jim Kelly on the show, Steve, that would 689 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: be a question to that one of us should ask them. 690 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: Can the ka gun work? Now? How is the NFL change? 691 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: I mean it's been twenty years right since the kate 692 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: gun was introduced. The concepts are there. Years, Yeah, the 693 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: concepts are there, no question about it, because like I said, 694 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: there's nothing new under the sun. For everything the defense does, 695 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: there's an answer offensively, The question is do you know 696 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: what they're going to do after the snap? Because defenses 697 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: will disguise, and can you be flexible enough offensively and 698 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: have everybody choreographed so that when they do that after 699 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: the snap, you've got it called and ready to go 700 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: and it happens when it should happen. It takes a 701 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: lot of preparation, a lot of really smart players on 702 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: the field knowing exactly what they're supposed to be doing 703 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: and seeing it the same way. I mean, there's a 704 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: million moving parts there, that's what it is. But the 705 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: concepts are all in place. How you execute them, how 706 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: you get into them, and what you allow the defense 707 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: to do. You know, is what football is all about, 708 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: and you gotta get it done. It's all about preparation. 709 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: It's a question of the day. It looks like a 710 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: good one. How can Jim Kelly help Josh Allen the 711 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: most this year? We'll have phone lines open all day 712 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: to talk about this eight oh three five fifty or 713 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 714 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: We will read your tweets on the tweet sheet about 715 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: this topic. You can vote on Twitter as well. I'm 716 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: gonna take a break from the discussion for a couple 717 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: of minutes. David Sills, Bills wide receiver, undrafted rookie from 718 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: West Virginia, schedule to join us when we come back. 719 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: Come on back with us One Bills Live from One 720 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, 721 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. You just had 722 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: a great discussion about parking here in between these segments. Rare, rare, 723 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: I know it, very rare, rarely happens. We had a 724 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: quick murph rand about park parking, cost of parking. But 725 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: that's not why we're here. We're here to talk about 726 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: the Bills to the Bills. We've got undrafted rookie free 727 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: Ah and wide receiver David's Sales from West Virginia in 728 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: studio with us Sollough David, welcome to the show. We 729 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: haven't had young yet. Yeah, thank you, thank you for 730 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: having me on you. You are back this week in 731 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: OTA's after missing a little bit of time with what 732 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: a hamstring that kept out a little bit. Yeah, just 733 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm all good, uh, you know, going full 734 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: speed in practice and it's good to get back out 735 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: there with the teammates. It sounded good to me that 736 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: you said I probably could have gone last week and 737 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: they said, you know, just get it right and that's 738 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: probably a good move. And I said, like in May, 739 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: it's a good move. In June, is in good move 740 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: just to take extra time? Yeah, absolutely, especially with you know, 741 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries. Those are things that you know, if 742 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: you keep them around, they'll stay around for a long time. 743 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: So better to you know, get it, get it all handled. 744 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: Why you can. What's the first thing you've noticed about 745 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: OTAs What do you think? Um, you know it definitely 746 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: the playbook is something that's a lot different from college 747 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: to prosum you know, and It's the biggest thing, is really, Um, 748 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, you can if you're not out there in 749 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: the game or in practice and you're going through the plays, 750 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: you might know what you have, But once you're in 751 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: the huddle, you know, it's completely different because you don't 752 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: really know you know, what players are gonna come and um, 753 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: you know all everything that that can happen, you know 754 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: out there. Um you know. So I feel like that's 755 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: the biggest difference from um, you know, the last couple 756 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: of weeks, just just really watching it from the sideline 757 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: and knowing the plays from the sideline and then getting 758 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: out there and like, okay, you know the bullets are flying. Now. 759 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: What makes such a difference When you hear the quarterback 760 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: lean down on the huddle and he rattles off the 761 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: whole play. It's a big difference, is it is? Not? Yeah, 762 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: it is, um, you know, Like I kind of said, 763 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is just the not not 764 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: knowing what play is gonna come. Um. You know, if 765 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: you're on the sideline, you're kind of looking over your 766 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: shoulder and or the coaches shoulder and seeing kind of 767 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: the script. When you're in the huddle, you know, he 768 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: can call anything, So you got to have your mind 769 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: open to all the plays. Um, you know, but it's 770 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: it's good to get back out there. I'm excited. Um, 771 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, really really love playing with this group of 772 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: guys and this coaching staff. David Salsbille's wide receiver, undrafted 773 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: rookie studio with us. Uh. You know what quarterbacks sound 774 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: like because you played quarterback at a very young age 775 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: and your backstory is pretty amazing. Age thirteen, what eighth 776 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: grade you were? Seventh grade? Seventh grade? You were signed 777 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: to a commitment to USC by Lane Kiffin to play 778 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: college football at Southern Cal in seventh grade. Yes, Uh, 779 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: it's crazy. It feels like a lifetime ago. Yeah. Was 780 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: it a publicity stunner? Was it? Uh? You know, it's 781 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: something that happens pretty regularly now. Um, you know, you see, 782 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: you see people, and this was really before the whole 783 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: social media air. Um, you know, so didn't blow it 784 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: blew up, but not like it it would if it 785 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: was the first um you know now, uh, and you 786 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: know coach coach Kiffin, he uh you know, he called 787 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: me up and offered me My highlight tape got brought 788 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: up on YouTube somehow. So you know, he never saw 789 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: me in person, never saw um you know, he just 790 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: went off of a highlight tabe on on YouTube. And 791 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: um you know at the time, that was my favorite 792 00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: school growing up. So now, um, it's it's it's happens 793 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: all the time you're telling me. I would say a lot, 794 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: a lot more than than you would think. Um, you know, 795 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: recruiting with social media and everything gets younger and younger. Um, 796 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: you know you've seen it in basketball. It's it's definitely 797 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: going towards that way. In baseball, you know, you see 798 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: eighth graders I feel like get offered you know, once 799 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: a week now. So it's a high school junior something happened, 800 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 1: tell us about that and how that impacted what happened 801 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Yeah, So junior year, Um, 802 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, we're playing Saint Edwards, a team in Ohio, 803 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I threw a football and got 804 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: got my hand pinned against my chest, um you know, 805 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: and didn't really have any structural damage to my knuckle, 806 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: but um, you know cut it open and had some 807 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: swelling and you know the next couple of weeks, naturally, 808 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: my body's trying to go away from pain. Um. You know, 809 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: so I'm doing whatever I can to throw the football 810 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: without any pain, um you know, and it just created 811 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: some bad habits and and almost like a hitch in 812 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: my motion. I can never really get it back to 813 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: what it used to be, um, you know. And ultimately 814 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: that that had to made the decision that it was okay, 815 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: are you do you want to you know, play a 816 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: position that you might be able to play on Sundays 817 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: or do you want to you know, give it You're 818 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: all a quarterback and probably never play college football, um 819 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: you know. So that was really where the decision came. 820 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: So he went to West Virginia and it was not 821 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: really a smooth ride there either. Quarterback I did, you know, 822 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: I always kind of had in my mind that Okay, 823 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: you can fix this. You know, you can get it 824 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: back because you've done it. Yeah, and just never could 825 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: And then made the decision to go to a junior 826 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: college in California, in California, um, you know, and play 827 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: quarterback because West Virginia really wanted me to play receiver. 828 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: You know, I switched my freshman or but then said, 829 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: you know, after the season, I want to go back, 830 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: um to quarterback, and you know, I kind of saw 831 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: the writing on the wall. You know, they didn't really 832 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: want me to play um, you know, that position. So 833 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: I went to junior college, gave it everything I had. Um, 834 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, it just didn't work out. Nobody offered me 835 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and you know, West Virginia called me a 836 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: couple days before the dead period and said, you know, 837 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: come back and play play receiver. So UM, from that 838 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: point on, I was fully committed to playing receiver, um, 839 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, and doing everything I could to be the 840 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: best receiver. Rack may What was it like reuniting with 841 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: West Virginia. Um, you know it was it was really 842 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: the anticipation going you know, getting closer and closer to 843 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: going back. Um. That was the nerve racking kind of 844 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: part for me because I didn't know how they were 845 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: going to accept. You know, you laughed. You came back, 846 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: same coaching staffs, you know, same same teammates. Really, you know, 847 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: a couple of guys graduating, a couple of new guys came. Um, 848 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: you know, but they welcomed me back with open arms. 849 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: You know. There wasn't any grudges or anything like that. Um. 850 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, so it was it was really cool to 851 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: go back there and feel welcomed, um you know, and 852 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: embrace the new position. I would imagine with your production, 853 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: uh at West Virginia with thirty three touchdowns, you you 854 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: probably never regretted that decision to go back as a 855 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Yeah no, I, um you didn't. Didn't regret 856 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: the decision. And like I said, um, you know, I 857 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: needed to get everything everything out at quarterback, and um 858 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: you know when I went back to receiver at West Virginia, 859 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: I didn't have um, you know, any mixed feelings any 860 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: any you know. I wish I'd still playing quarterback. And 861 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: I think if I would have stayed there for my 862 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: freshman year, I probably you know, still would have had 863 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: some of that indecisiveness and doubt. So here's another bump 864 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: in the road. Draft weekend. You're projected as a fourth 865 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: rounder and it doesn't happen. How bumped out were you? 866 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I I definitely you know, it 867 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: was a little bit um you know, bummed out. But 868 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: uh you know, I've always been the kind of kind 869 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: of person that you know, it's it's it's God's plan 870 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: and he has a he has got a plan for me. 871 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: Um you know, so, and I feel like I ended 872 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: up in a great spot here, um you know, and 873 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: a great, great opportunity for me, um, you know to 874 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: come in and do everything I can for this organization. 875 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: What does it feel like when you get in the room. 876 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: You got these guys, Why why did you pick them? 877 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: Because you're a free agent? Why did you pick Buffalo? Um? 878 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: You know really really, um you know, believe what what 879 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: what Coach McDermott was telling me, Um, you know on 880 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: the phone at the end of um you know, the 881 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: draft and um you know, really just bought in talk 882 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: to talk to Coach Hall, the receiver coach at at 883 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: the Combine, um you know. And also, um, one of 884 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: my best friends played here a couple of years ago, 885 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: did Quill Shortz He was undrafted, Um, you know, wide receiver. 886 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: Um you know, he really told me how how good 887 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: Coach Hall was and this was, um, you know, gonna 888 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: be a good spot. Um you know, So that that 889 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: that really had a lot of, um, you know, impact 890 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: on why I chose Buffalo, um you know, and just 891 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: felt like, uh that it was a good place for 892 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: me to be. There's a feel that way now that 893 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: you've been here a month or so. Oh yeah, yeah, 894 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, um, you know, still getting back from the 895 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: hamstring injury. But um, you know, I love the culture 896 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: and and everything that uh you know, all the coaches 897 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: and players are, um you know forming here. You pulled 898 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: your hamstring at your day? How how did that run 899 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: up to the draft and all that goat? What that 900 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: feel like? I had to be an exciting time knowing 901 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: that you know, you had a good chance to be 902 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: in draft. Do you think your hamstring injury hurt you? Uh? No, 903 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean I pulled it, uh in Pro 904 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: day on literally on my last route, I was running, 905 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: um you know, so we we had a three three 906 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: person script. Um you know, obviously with our quarterback in um, 907 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: one of the other receivers actually went down two days 908 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 1: before Pro day, so we weren't gonna. I wasn't gonna. 909 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: I was. I was like, okay, I'm not gonna you know, 910 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: split his split all the quarterbacks reps down to you 911 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: know what like twenty eight throws or whatever. So I 912 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: ended up taking the other receivers reps and just probably 913 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, did a little bit too much, um you know, 914 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: but came back and was running full speed for a 915 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: little bit over a month, and um, you know, I 916 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: guess I didn't rehab it all the way right, Um 917 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, and that that led to the injury again. 918 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: UM you know, so this time where we rehabbed it 919 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: right sure, Um you know it's all good. Before I 920 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: go back out there, David, you come to a Buill 921 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: team that signed three free agents at wide receiver right 922 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: with the John Brown and Cole Beasley, Andre Roberts, Duke 923 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: Williams comes from Canada. What what what can you bring 924 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: to this group? And what are you trying to show 925 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: now that you are active in in OTAs? What do 926 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: you think you add to their wide receiver mix here? Um? 927 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think this is this is a very 928 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: complex offense and you have to be smart to play 929 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: this offense. Um you know. And that's that's one thing 930 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: that I kind of hang my hat on, um you know, 931 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: being a former quarterback and and and being a um 932 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: now a receiver, but still looking at the game, UM 933 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: like a quarterback, just being able to kind of be 934 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: um you know, I play many positions, UM you know, 935 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: be able to know all the positions, um you know, 936 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: so that that whatever UM position I need to go 937 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: in at that that that I know my job and 938 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: my responsibility. UM you know, I think that's that's one 939 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: thing that um you know, I really, I really think 940 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: I do a good job of. Is just you know, 941 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: knowing the playbook and um you know obviously it's it's 942 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: been a lot, um you know these last a couple 943 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: of weeks, but um, you know, feeling more comfortable with it, 944 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: um you know, not seeing this, not seeing new stuff 945 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: every single day, UM you know, starting to repeat itself, 946 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: which um you know is good. And then having this 947 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: um you know four week break or whatever, be four 948 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: camp right, Um you know, I think we'll have most 949 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: of the playbook in so it'll give me that much 950 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: more time to to feel really comfortable when we get 951 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: back for training camp. So what do you think? Um? 952 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: But I was, I forgot what I was gonna ask him. 953 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: Now I got one. You grew up in Wilmington, Delaware. 954 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: Eagles fan, Yes, Eagles fan, growing up Okay to write 955 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 1: these questions, who is there anybody because of your unique 956 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 1: background as a quarterbacker? Is there anybody you kind of 957 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: model yourself after or you look as a role model, 958 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: a prototype for your bid to make an NFL franchise. 959 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I i'd growing up I never really looked 960 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: at receivers. Um you know, I don't really modeled my 961 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: game after them. You know. I was a big um 962 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, Peyton Manning fan growing up, and um you 963 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: know Matt Leiner in college obviously the USC connection, um 964 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: you know. But but now I try to just you know, 965 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: watch all the receivers I think, Um you know, every 966 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: receiver has has different strengths, um you know, and and 967 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: you know that's really what this game is about now, 968 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: is just watching other people and taking things from from 969 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: different guys, um you know, and implementing them to your game. 970 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 1: UM you know, obviously I'm not gonna be watching you know, 971 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: a five nine shifty fast dude, because that's you know, 972 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: maybe maybe get one or two things. But um, yeah, 973 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: it's not just that's just not the player. I am 974 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: more like, um you know, like Zay Jones has been 975 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: good to watch for me, um you know, because we're 976 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: similar body types. Um you know we can kind of 977 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: do you know, is the same. So um, you know, 978 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: just watching guys like that and picking up on things 979 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah. I remember the question though, you said, 980 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: when you get that all these guys and maybe the 981 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: pecking order up at the top of the thing is 982 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: gonna be tough, and you gotta get on the roster somehow. 983 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: Where are they putting you in the drills for special 984 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: teams that kind of thing, because you know, if you're 985 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: on the roster on game day, you're gonna have to 986 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,439 Speaker 1: contribute somewhere. Uh yeah, I mean, right now, it's it's 987 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: really just UM drill work, drill work. UM. You know, 988 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: there's really not a depth chart. Coaches call it more 989 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: of a rep chart. Just getting reps um, you know, 990 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: and doing that as of right now. And you know, 991 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: like I said, obviously the injury and not being able 992 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: to um participate in all of them, so I'm kind 993 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: of just doing everything I can and controlling what I 994 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: can control. UM. You know, said that when training camps comes, 995 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: I can put my best foot forward. So you've getting 996 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: limited reps. But you have been out there for a while. 997 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: We talked about the three quarterbacks. I mean, you got 998 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: Tyree Jackson, who's big, tall, unbelievably. You know, he's a 999 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: gifted guy. He's kind of like Josh Allen. Both of 1000 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: those guys have big arms and big athletes. And you 1001 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: have Matt Barkley out there. Tell us about what you 1002 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: notice from the different quarterbacks. Yeah, I mean I think 1003 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: they all have unique skill sets. They're all um you know, 1004 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: do different things very well. But um, they're all very 1005 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: talented obviously. Um you know, I played with Tyree down 1006 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, so we kind of knew each 1007 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: other a little bit coming in, um you know. And 1008 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: and and really the biggest thing I saw with him 1009 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: down the Senior Bowls. You know, he's just he's a gamer, 1010 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: you know. You um, you know, you see him when 1011 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 1: when he's in the game, and he's you know, stuff 1012 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 1: you can't really do in practice because you know, quarterbacks 1013 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: aren't live. And you see, you know, down in the 1014 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl he's scrambling around and making plays with his feet, 1015 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: um you know, which is huge in the NFL today 1016 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 1: because a lot of people are looking for that. And 1017 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: um you know, obviously see Josh is pretty mobile and 1018 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: and Kim run but has a huge arm as well 1019 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: and takes good command, um you know, of the head 1020 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 1: of the huddle. And and Matt um you know, really 1021 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: has a firm grasp with the offense, um you know, 1022 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 1: and I always make sure everybody knows what they're doing, 1023 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 1: um you know, And it's very accurate with the football. 1024 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: So they all have, um you know, different UM assets 1025 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: and different um strengths, but um you know, I think 1026 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 1: they're all very good quarterbacks and um you know, going 1027 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: to do well in the system. David, did you ask 1028 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: for jersey number one? Or do the Bills just give 1029 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: it to you? Nope? I you know, just got here 1030 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 1: and then that's attention. That was in my locker. Okay, 1031 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: the way it works, man, you show up, sometimes you 1032 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: don't get to pick. Yeah, I know I didn't. Good 1033 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: luck to you. Thanks for bending time with the today. 1034 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 1: We appreciate me. Thank you, I appreciate it. David Sills, 1035 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 1: wide receiver, undrafted rookie free agent from West Virginia, making 1036 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: his way through OTA's STEPH and I coming back for 1037 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: hour number two. Come on Back one goes live from 1038 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Bills Radio Network 1039 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: Stories update. The update from One Bill's Drive Buffalo Bills 1040 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: with kind of a quieter day today. No OTA practice today, 1041 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: they did have conditioning work. The players here from more 1042 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 1: conditioning work and more meeting time. The organized CM activity 1043 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: practice is resumed tomorrow. Two more OTAs this week tomorrow 1044 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: on Friday, than the three day mandatory minicamp begins next Tuesday. 1045 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: Around the NFL, the Patriots had released venteran tight end 1046 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: Austin Seferian Jenkins, he signed a one year deal back 1047 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: in April, looking for a roster spot on an England 1048 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: roster which is short of tight ends. They're trying to 1049 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: transition without Rob Gronkowski, who retired. Safari and Jenkins did 1050 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: not show up for the mandatory minicamp yesterday and he 1051 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 1: was released. Twenty six years old, one hundred sixteen career catches. 1052 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: Venter and Benjamin Watson leads the Patriots depth chart at 1053 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: tight end, but he'll miss the first four games in 1054 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: an NFL suspension, so they have some no names behind him. 1055 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: Patriots should be looking for a tight end help, you 1056 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: would think. Jets running back Laby On Bell says he 1057 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: and Adam Gays are texting buddies and best friends, even 1058 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 1: though he knows his coach reportedly didn't want him on 1059 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: his team. Bell showed up at his first space to 1060 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: face session with reporters yesterday, insisting that recent reports are 1061 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 1: guarding Gays's negative feelings have not damaged their rapport. Walmer 1062 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco linebacker Navarral Bowman calling into a career, he 1063 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: wants to make sure though he's going out with a 1064 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: team that brought him into the league. The Niners announcing 1065 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: that Bowman stopped by their facility to inform the team 1066 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: he would be retiring, and he wanted to retire as 1067 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: a member of the forty nine Ers, where he played 1068 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: seven plus years. NBA Finals tonight. It is Game three tonight, 1069 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: series tied, one win apiece, Toronto in Golden State nine 1070 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: o'clock tip off on ABC. Kevin Durant is out, play 1071 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: Thompson questionable. The two Golden State Stars trying to get 1072 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 1: ahead of their injuries and be ready for the NBA Finals. 1073 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,240 Speaker 1: At some point, Boston Bruins say injured defenseman Zananiel Shower 1074 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: will be evaluated in Boston. They are getting ready that 1075 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: getting ready to play without him in Game five. That 1076 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: series tied the two wins apiece and Game five is 1077 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: tomorrow night back in Boston and a double header for 1078 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: the Bison today against Granton Wilkesbury. They'll play Game one 1079 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: at five thirty five tonight at Sailing Field. And that's 1080 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: the update. That's the update from one Bill's drive, John 1081 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker here in our one Buffalo studio. 1082 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with Field Yates in a moment. He 1083 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 1: is an NFL analyst for ESPN dot com. Good drivers. 1084 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: Conversation with David Sills the Fifth. I didn't ask him 1085 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: about the fifth. Oh yeah, his father is David Sills 1086 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: the fourth, and good for him. It should make a 1087 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 1: really good kids Steven, And yeah, he does speaker six three. 1088 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,439 Speaker 1: It's interesting too. And he's right. You kind of watch 1089 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: are the guys that are like you and see if 1090 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: you can get stuff for your game. And he's doing 1091 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: the right thing by keeping track of that. Yep. Hey, 1092 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 1: joining us on the line right now. A special guest. 1093 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: He's an NFL insider for NFL or for ESPN. Rather 1094 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: contributes analysis, breaking NFL news and fantasy football all year long. 1095 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: Been a guest on the show before. Happy to have 1096 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: him out again, ESPN NFL Insider Field you, Hello, Field, 1097 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasker up there in Buffalo. Thank 1098 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: you for joining us. No problem, guys, try to do it. 1099 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Since the last time you were on, 1100 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: and it was at least a couple of months ago. 1101 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: You have been quoted as saying the Buffalo Bills are 1102 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: the most improved team in the league. I believe you said, 1103 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: or at least the AFC this offseason, right. Can you 1104 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: elaborate on that please? Yeah. I think that in the 1105 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: NFL it's always important to have a plan, and I 1106 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: think that while we can generally speaking understand almost everybody's 1107 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: intentions or their plans, I think that not every team 1108 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: six to its playing or follows through with it. But 1109 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 1: I think the Bills have done a unique job of 1110 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: identifying a plan and really falling through with it. I 1111 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: think the plan is pretty evident. They want to draft 1112 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: and develop the nucleus of their roster, but when the 1113 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: opportunity presents itself in free agency, they're going to be 1114 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: aggressive in filling spots that are primary needs. And I 1115 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 1: don't know that the Bills are going to win ten 1116 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: games this season. I don't know they're going to push 1117 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots in the AFC East this year. But I'm 1118 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: not sure. That's the big question that needs to be 1119 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: answered by GM Brandon being head coach. Sean McDermott. Of course, 1120 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: it's what they want. Of course, it's what fans want. 1121 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: But I think the Bills have clearly made progress this 1122 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: year and certainly feel like a far more competitive team 1123 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: compared to where they were at this time last year. 1124 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and one of the things I 1125 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about is obviously, a lot of 1126 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: teams come in, they get a new head coach, they 1127 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,959 Speaker 1: get a new general manager, they lay out the plan 1128 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: for the franchise. I wonder, though, the thing that jumps 1129 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: out about Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott to me is 1130 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,959 Speaker 1: the fact that they have over the last two full 1131 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 1: off seasons three full off seasons for McDermot, they have 1132 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: stayed disciplined and not gone outside the lines. And they've 1133 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: flirted with Antonio Brown. They've they've you know, we've we've 1134 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,439 Speaker 1: heard rumblings of other players when when big name guys 1135 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: came available. They always made the call to find out 1136 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: about it. But they've never gone financially out on a 1137 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: limb for any one player on this team. And I 1138 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: think maybe that may be the biggest accomplishment I've seen 1139 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,240 Speaker 1: a team make, is the fact that when somebody dangles 1140 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,399 Speaker 1: a carrot out there, the Bills have not gone for it. Yeah, 1141 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: it's a really smart point, because you're right, and what happened, 1142 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,760 Speaker 1: As I said, you know these teams, we understand their plans, 1143 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: well the actually follow through it that is a different question, right, 1144 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: And you know, you can look around the division, you 1145 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 1: can look around the league, and you stay to yourself like, 1146 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: all right, I understand why a team may have wanted 1147 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: that player, but did they want that player at that 1148 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,360 Speaker 1: price tag? And the question oftentimes in free agency a 1149 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: couple of years after the deals are signed is no. 1150 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: So I just really respect the way that the Bills 1151 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: have suck their plan. And again it might be a 1152 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,919 Speaker 1: matter of patients. I don't want to, you know, create 1153 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 1: these expectations of the Bills are just gonna be playoff 1154 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 1: DOWND next year. I don't know the next the case 1155 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 1: it could be. But I also don't want Bills fans 1156 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: to think that if they don't make the playoffs that 1157 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: year this year, it means that something has gone awry. 1158 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: Football takes time, you know. The old expression of rome 1159 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: wasn't built in the day, obviously was not referring to football. 1160 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: But I think so often we find teams like the 1161 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 1: Bears last year or the Rams the year before that, 1162 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: where they make this quantum lead to the playoffs, and 1163 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, people say, well, that's the expectation, 1164 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: that's the model, that's how you have to do it. No, 1165 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 1: the reality is that what you have to do is 1166 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: build the stain success and a lot of times that 1167 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: takes two, three four years to read before you actually 1168 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: get to see it consistently. On the line with Field Yates. 1169 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: ESPN's Field Yates contributed to NFL Live Sports Center The 1170 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: Fantasy Show with Matthew Berry. One more thing about the Bills, 1171 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: Field And it's a hypothetical question if they had somehow 1172 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: been successful with Antonio Brown back in I think it 1173 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: was March, would we be thinking differently about this offseason? 1174 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: And how so, would we think more of what the 1175 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: Bills did this offseason? You know, I think I would 1176 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: start by saying that, like, I don't know how close 1177 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: that he ever really was. I don't get the sense 1178 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: that there was ever really substance and talk, substantent talks 1179 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: surrounding Antonio Brown to the Buffalo Bill. I think that 1180 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: when it was apparent the Steelers opened to a trade, 1181 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: I think almost every single team in the league wade 1182 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 1: the pros and cons the merit of a trade for 1183 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,720 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown in terms of how were we thinking about 1184 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 1: this offense? Certainly you'd be thinking about it different because 1185 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: he would be a superior player to anybody that's on 1186 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: the current Bills roster at wide receiver. But that's on 1187 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: an indictment of the current Bills wide out. That's like 1188 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: what you would say if Antonio Brown were traded to 1189 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: like any roster but about three. Right. I mean, he's 1190 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: one of the you know, somewhere between the first and 1191 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: fifth best wide receiver in football. He's just that spectacular 1192 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: of a town. But I think it also might have 1193 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 1: been a little bit and I just talked all that 1194 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 1: time about the plan, the plan of the plan, right, 1195 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,279 Speaker 1: it would have took a little bit different or you know, 1196 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: beering off course from the plan only because it probably 1197 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: we would have also included a lucrative contract extension. And 1198 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: not that Antonio Brown is not worth a lot of money, 1199 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,720 Speaker 1: but you guys just mentioned, you know, they've been selective 1200 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 1: and who they paid. They haven't necessarily broken the model yet, 1201 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: And I think that it was shrewd to bypass because 1202 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: the trade. That not that I don't love Antonio as 1203 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: a player. I think we all do. But I just 1204 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: think that it made sense at the time for Oakland 1205 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: a whole lot more than it did for the Buffalo builds. Yeah, 1206 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: and it's also it's the environment in which you live 1207 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: at how discipline you can stay. Khalil mack At twelve 1208 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: months ago was made available to the league when the 1209 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: Raiders couldn't come up with the cash to sign him. 1210 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: That too as an opportunity to get a guy at 1211 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: one of the positions. Even fans really really covered one 1212 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: of those great pass rushers, maybe the best pass rusher 1213 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: in the league today, and the Bills kind of shied 1214 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: away from that as well because of the price tag. 1215 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 1: So once again, I just I agree with you. The 1216 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: Bills have made some great strides, but I think the 1217 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: greatest stride they made was staying inside the plan that 1218 00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: they've laid out. And now you know, we're in that 1219 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: unenviable I think spot of Wow, they gotta win the 1220 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: correct right right, Yeah, you know, the interest they have 1221 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: to win. I think that really comes down to my 1222 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: opinion more than anything else, and not the simplify matters 1223 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: too much, but I think it really comes down to 1224 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: how Josh Allen develops this year. There are some positives 1225 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: last year, and you can see some of the natural 1226 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: things he brings to the table beyond just football ability, 1227 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: Like Josh clearly has leadership, He clearly has a respect 1228 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: of the locker room. He clearly has a professionalism about 1229 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: him that is incumbent upon being a good player in 1230 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. But until we've seen it consistently, of course, 1231 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: there's going to be some question marks about what he 1232 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: is as a long term answer at quarterback for the build. 1233 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 1: That's something you can say about Sam Darnold and even 1234 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, and certainly Josh Rosen in Miami and Lamar 1235 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 1: Jackson in Baltimore as well. But one thing I would 1236 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 1: say is that the build, You're right, like, the template 1237 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: has been followed. Now it's got to it comes down 1238 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: to the win loss column, And even if it takes 1239 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: one more year than just this one, I think that's okay. 1240 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: I really do. I really believe that the discipline they 1241 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: show has been a major benefit, even if it means 1242 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 1: they had slightly fewer wins and people would expect the 1243 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: season the field. Well, last question I have for you 1244 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: about the Bills, and it's about Josh Allen. I guess 1245 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to weigh in and what 1246 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: we're discussing on our Twitter poll. Today, Jim Kelly spent 1247 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: some time with the Bills quarterbacks in the quarterback meeting 1248 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: room and with the coaches, and we were kind of 1249 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: talking what would be the biggest contribution Kelly could make 1250 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: that would help Josh Ellen. What's the biggest thing Kelly 1251 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: could do for Josh Ellen? What do you think? You know, 1252 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, there are certainly are so many, So I 1253 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna try to think like a little bit 1254 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: less than obvious and just say this. I think Josh 1255 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: has probably already picked this up probably, you know, it's 1256 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: just now fifteen months or so and being in Buffalo 1257 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: or whatever the number of months, thirty fourteen months. One 1258 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: thing I think that Jim Kelly understands more than anybody 1259 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 1: else ever, is just what it means to the community 1260 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: of Buffalo to be a Buffalo Bill and what it 1261 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 1: means to have success in that market. I think it's 1262 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: really one of the you know, the finest football markets 1263 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 1: the NFL has um and and I don't want to 1264 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: say that you know, Lynn doesn't matter everywhere, because it 1265 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: does matter everywhere, but I think that winning in Buffalo 1266 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: means more than it does maybe in some other communities 1267 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: around the NFL. And I think that being able to 1268 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 1: be a big part of that is really something that 1269 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: can be special and different that Jim Kelly can hopefully 1270 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: impress upon Josh Allen. And I don't know who else 1271 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: can do that. I don't know, you know, no one 1272 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: else has won in the way that Jim has. Obviously, 1273 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: you can help them with mechanics, you can help them 1274 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: with you know, the nuances of of of work habits 1275 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: and all those things, and route concepts and defensive But 1276 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: I think there's one thing that you know, if you 1277 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: put Jim Kelly, or if you put you know, another 1278 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 1: great quarterback, another legendary quarterback, John Elway or somebody else, 1279 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 1: one person can speak to what it means to be 1280 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback for the Bills at their APAX, and that's 1281 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly. Field. You've you We're gonna put your vote 1282 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: down in our Trotter poll. That was one of the choices, Uh, 1283 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: what's the what can how can Jim Kelly help Josh 1284 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: Allen the most One of the choices being the face 1285 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: of the franchise. It sounds like, that's how you would 1286 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 1: vote in that Huh, Yeah, I think that. I don't 1287 01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: know what the other options are, but trying to think 1288 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: of a bit outside in the box here, that to 1289 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: be my pick. I like that. Yeah, I wanted to 1290 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: ask you. We were talking about the free agency and 1291 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: how the Bills have stayed inside the line, So I 1292 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 1: want to ask you about Levon Bell and the Jets 1293 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: and the question I guess that nobody can answer really, 1294 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 1: but I'm going to put to you anyway, are the 1295 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Jets going to regret the money they paid him? Or 1296 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 1: are they going to regret the player and the lack 1297 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: of production first? Which comes first? Or does either one 1298 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 1: of them happen? Yeah, it's gonna say. It kind of 1299 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 1: comes hand in hand, right. I think that it's probably yes. 1300 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I think the answer is they probably will regret it. 1301 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: And here's the reason why, Guys. We don't have a 1302 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: ton of empirical evidence of running backs making somewhere between 1303 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 1: twelve and fifteen million dollars per season, but we have 1304 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 1: a few examples, and all of them age poorly. Adrian 1305 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 1: Peterson side a massive deal with the Vikings, and we 1306 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: know how its tenure on Then in Minnesota. It was 1307 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: an ugly divorce. Right now, we're looking at Todd Gurley 1308 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: facing knee issues and the possibility of the Rams, you know, 1309 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: turning to other running backs more next season, and it 1310 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: already looks like a deal that you know, I don't 1311 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 1: want to say there fires more because Todd was Austin 1312 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 1: last year. But there are some who are wondering that 1313 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: it was the best business move. There's just not a 1314 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,959 Speaker 1: lot there's I mean, I'm sure it's possible. I'm missing 1315 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: an example, but like, I don't know that thirteen million 1316 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: dollars a year for a running back is the way 1317 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 1: that I would approach building my roster. That's that's my 1318 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: personal opinion. I understand why then, GM Max mccaguan decided 1319 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 1: to make that move. I think he felt as though, 1320 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, he had to make this team better for 1321 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen to retain his job, and the answer was 1322 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 1: didn't even matter. I'm sure Mike himself probably understood the 1323 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 1: risk involved. And I love Leadian as a player. I 1324 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: don't want to make that mistake, and I just think 1325 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 1: that it's possible to simultaneously really respect and admire the 1326 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 1: player and also think that too much money is too 1327 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: much money. I feel a lot of admiration for Jets quarterbacks. 1328 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: Sam Donald turned twenty two today and you were You 1329 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 1: posted a tweet today praising Donald for his ploys. What 1330 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 1: do you like about Donald and what do you expect 1331 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: to get from him? Yeah, I'm in the turmoil that 1332 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 1: kind of the Jets situation has become. Yeah, I thought 1333 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: that both. This is something he shares with Josh Allen 1334 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: beyond the same draft year and being a top ten picked, 1335 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: is that I don't think either one of them was 1336 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 1: surrounded with very much infrastructure in terms of personnel last year, right. 1337 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean Josh, his best most reliable receiver became Robert Foster, 1338 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, right, And the offensive line was a 1339 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: game of musical chairs. That's why the Builds attacked offensive 1340 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: line the way they did this offseason. The same thing 1341 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: goes for Sam Darnelds. There were a lot of players 1342 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: last year and the Jet offense that either were replaced 1343 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 1: or were replacement level players. So I respect the fact 1344 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: that both of those guys have shown some impromptu ability 1345 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: as a player. I think they've both shown some football intelligence. 1346 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: I think that Sam Darnold has you know, naturally gifted 1347 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 1: arm that much. We know the center making has to 1348 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: be better. Too many interceptions as as a final college 1349 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 1: year player. And then I thought they were okay last 1350 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 1: year for the most part. But Sam Darnold has a chance. 1351 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 1: I think could be a really really good player. I 1352 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: think these two guys really kind of unlock the AfD 1353 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: East over the next handful of years. Can they be, 1354 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, can they be the air apparent as the 1355 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 1: best quarterback in the AfD East whenever Tom Brady the 1356 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 1: size are retire. I want to ask you one of 1357 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 1: the story about one of the stories that came out 1358 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 1: on the wire today about Duke Johnson in Cleveland. Cleveland 1359 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: has been the spot for a lot of high expectations. 1360 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: Is going to be a different atmosphere in that city 1361 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: this year because of the football team. Why would Duke 1362 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: Johnson want out? You know, I think Duke just feels 1363 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: as though he is not being utilized nearly enough. And 1364 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: they're probably a fair point there. Duke is a really 1365 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 1: talented player. I think he feels like it can be 1366 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: more than just the past catching back and situations, which 1367 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: is what he has basically been for the Browns to 1368 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 1: this point. I don't want to say, and you know, 1369 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: the trade request is what it is. I think the 1370 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 1: point or the quote that really stood out to me 1371 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: with a Baker Mayfield said, guys and I don't to cry, 1372 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 1: well me feels dead, who basically said, like, you're either 1373 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 1: with us or not. But there's a really fine line 1374 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: you got to be careful with as a player in 1375 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to say creating turmoils. I don't think 1376 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: that's what Baker Mayfield's doing by any stretch, but I 1377 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: think that either the Browns have to be mindful of 1378 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of cooks in the kitchen right 1379 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: now and often a lot of really talented players, and 1380 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have. But you know, I 1381 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: think the balance for them is going to likely be 1382 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: how do we keep all of these players happy? Because 1383 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, Odell Beckham Junior is used to being the 1384 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 1: number one option without any competition, and the same thing 1385 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 1: goes for Jarvis lanjury, and clearly Duke Johnson wants to 1386 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 1: get his Kareem Hunt will be back in week nine 1387 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: of the season. David and Joku was drafting in the 1388 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: first round for a reason. That's probably the balance that 1389 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's easy July or April, May, June and 1390 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: July when you're just talking about things on paper, But 1391 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 1: when we're actually playing the game, that's going to be 1392 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 1: I think the balance and the challenge for Freddie Kitchens, 1393 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 1: their head coach, and Todd Munkin, their offensive coordinator, in 1394 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: facilitating the offense this year. It's a lot to ask, 1395 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 1: isn't it for a first year, first time head coach 1396 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens? Yeah, it is. I think that that's a 1397 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: and I don't think he could be the perfect man 1398 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: for the job. I'm not saying that he won't bet, 1399 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: but I also think that assuming things will be easy 1400 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: because you have all this talent, It's just not how 1401 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: the world works. It's not how the football world works. 1402 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 1: By any stretch. You want to see players exceed and 1403 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 1: be really successful, but you also have to manage you know, 1404 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: eleven guys who under the huddle every single play, but 1405 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 1: there's just one football and the only person that to 1406 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 1: guarantee you to touch you on this on every single 1407 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: play as the center. Does that make the biggest question 1408 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 1: mark in Cleveland? Their head coach? You know, I still 1409 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: have a couple of concerns about the defense. In the 1410 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: secondary specifically, they have added some pieces there and you 1411 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: have some good developing young pieces as well. But you know, 1412 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,880 Speaker 1: I think that last year, I don't know, we saw 1413 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: a couple of sort of shootout type mentality games from 1414 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: them that I think, how do they It's one thing 1415 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: against teams I think will be not particularly strong, So 1416 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have doubts about their ability to 1417 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 1: be a team bunch of Bengals necessarily this year. But 1418 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 1: you're a contender now, if that's what you fancy yourself 1419 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. How do you handle yourself against the Patriots 1420 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 1: or the Chiefs or the Los Angeles Chargers, teams who 1421 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: based off in the last year's record seemed to be 1422 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: right to pick up things again this year. That's to me. 1423 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 1: You're probably the test for the Bills this season. It's 1424 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to find out a Field. Thanks for 1425 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: your time today. We appreciate it. Hoping talking again sometime. 1426 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 1: All right, guys, have a great couple of days here. 1427 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. Field Yates NFL insider for ESPN. He's been 1428 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: with ESPN for the last seven years, host on ESPN 1429 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 1: Radio and on ESPN Audio's Fantasy Football podcast. You can 1430 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 1: catch them all the time on ESPN. He's always there 1431 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 1: good insight, good league wide insight, especially about the Jets 1432 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 1: and the Browns. I thought, huh, yeah, he's the Jets 1433 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: are We've said this for a long time. The Jets 1434 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: and the Bills, we're kind of on that same trajectory. 1435 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: They both had top ten draft picks last year. They 1436 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,919 Speaker 1: both got a quarterback in the draft last year. They're 1437 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 1: both kind of struggled to build around him in their 1438 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: first year, and you know, and on and on and on. 1439 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 1: The parallels are eerily similar. Both had a lot of 1440 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 1: money and free agency to spend. And then the Jets 1441 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: fired Macagne and the GM and all of a sudden, 1442 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 1: now they're divergent a little bit. And the Jets made 1443 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 1: a head coaching change, and that was further They went 1444 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 1: further divergent from where they were with the Bills. And 1445 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:21,720 Speaker 1: it remains to be seen whether the Jets have taken 1446 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,720 Speaker 1: a step sideways or backwards. I don't know that you 1447 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 1: can say yet that they've taken a definite step forward, 1448 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 1: because they still don't have a GM, and there's work 1449 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 1: to be done twelve months a year in this league. Yeah, Hey, 1450 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 1: our topic today and it's gonna be We're gonna get 1451 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 1: back into it now. You're welcome to join us. Jim 1452 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 1: Kelly quoted a couple of days ago at a golf 1453 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: tournament about getting involved in Bill's quarterback meetings. Here with 1454 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 1: coach Ken Dorsey and offensive coordinated Brian Dable and the quarterbacks, 1455 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 1: we're thinking about how Jim might help. That's our Twitter 1456 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 1: pole topic of the day. You are welcome to weigh 1457 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 1: in on Twitter or give us a call. And the 1458 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: question is simple, how how can Jim Kelly help Josh 1459 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 1: Allen the most? Certainly, as Field Yates said, there's a 1460 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 1: variety of ways he can help, but how can he 1461 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 1: help him the most? On Twitter, we got more than 1462 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 1: six hundred responses so far. Thirty four percent of them 1463 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: say leadership is how he can help the most. Thirty 1464 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 1: six percent say X and ox and os, twenty one 1465 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: percent say being the face of the franchise kind of 1466 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,680 Speaker 1: we're field Yates one two. When we asked him that 1467 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 1: ten percent have something else in mind. Give us a call, 1468 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 1: let us know what you think. Eight h three five 1469 01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight five fifty two five 1470 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 1: fifty voting the Twitter poll sending a tweet. I don't 1471 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 1: think you've given me enough credit for coming up with 1472 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,400 Speaker 1: this Twitter poll today, Steve, come on, it's a good one. 1473 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Look at those numbers, buddy. I was just gonna say, 1474 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 1: you know, we obviously we spend an inordinate amount of 1475 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 1: time putting these Twitter poles together. We do. I'm not 1476 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 1: You're right and patting ourselves in back, criticizing each other. 1477 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 1: But here's the thing up about this one. It's interesting 1478 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 1: to me, And there's another Twitter pole inside this Twitter poll, 1479 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,400 Speaker 1: which one of those you think is most important? Yeah, 1480 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And some people probably answer 1481 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: it that way the way they hope that he can help, 1482 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 1: hoping that he can they can help him with the 1483 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,640 Speaker 1: exes and os. I don't think he needs any help 1484 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 1: with the x's nose. They got. He's got Brian, Dave Bulken, Dorsey, 1485 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:13,639 Speaker 1: Matt Barkley, Tyree Jackson, he's got everybody else, everybody Jordan 1486 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 1: Palmer in his ear with the xs and os and 1487 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 1: the techniques and the things that are happening in the 1488 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 1: side of this offense. He's got an entire quarterback room 1489 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: on everybody in it trying to get him ready to play. 1490 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,640 Speaker 1: The exes and o's are going to be taking care 1491 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,560 Speaker 1: of pretty good. Now. Certainly Jim could help with that, 1492 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 1: no question about it, by giving him some insights is 1493 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 1: and one more quarterback voice to listen to. But the 1494 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 1: leadership thing is something that I think has to be 1495 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 1: come from himself. It's got to be you know, self driven. 1496 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 1: Like we said, he's got to be genuine. It's got 1497 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 1: to be him. It can't be him trying to be 1498 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly or him trying to be Pat Mahomes or 1499 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 1: somebody else like that. It's got to be Josh Allen 1500 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 1: leading the way he needs to lead. I don't know 1501 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 1: how much you help with that unless to help him 1502 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 1: discover what it is in him that he you know, 1503 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 1: he wants to cultivate. Yeah. And then as far as 1504 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: being the face of the franchise, Listen, he doesn't get 1505 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 1: a choice, right, I mean, that's thrust upon him. He 1506 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 1: is the face of the franchise. There is nobody else, 1507 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,360 Speaker 1: and whether he can handle it or not, he's gonna 1508 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 1: have to sink or swim trying too. And that's so 1509 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 1: I think this Twitter poll, and I will give you 1510 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,720 Speaker 1: some credit for coming up with it, although I contributed. 1511 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 1: I contributed to it UM in small way. But it 1512 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 1: is a good Twitter poll because it's hard to decide 1513 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,600 Speaker 1: because all three of us, I think all of it, 1514 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 1: and we we kind of define what we were looking 1515 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,439 Speaker 1: for in each of these categories at the top of 1516 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 1: the show. It's it's it's easy to define and see 1517 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 1: where those lines are drawn. Leadership and x's and nose 1518 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: and the face of the franchise. UM, it's it's easy 1519 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,840 Speaker 1: to draw lines between what all those mean and UH, 1520 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,640 Speaker 1: and certainly they're all important facets of what's going to 1521 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 1: be asked to Josh. What do you think about that? 1522 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 1: How can Jim Kelly helped Josh Allen the most? We 1523 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,479 Speaker 1: got phone lines wide open eight oh three five fifty 1524 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 1: or twol three one eight eight eight five fifty two 1525 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 1: five fifty. We can go to the tweet sheet. It 1526 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,879 Speaker 1: is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official 1527 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bills. Tiffany Daniels tweets and Jim 1528 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 1: could come out and stink it up in the first 1529 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 1: half of the game and then lead the team back 1530 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,640 Speaker 1: in the second half to a win. He is a 1531 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 1: leader who gave it everything he had out and off 1532 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 1: the field. Josh has those same qualities, and if Jim 1533 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 1: Ken mentor him, Josh will become an iconic bill. I 1534 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 1: do think Josh has a lot of those same qualities. Yeah, 1535 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 1: Evan Been hasn't had as many opportunities to display that 1536 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,680 Speaker 1: as Kelly had through his illustrious career. But I think 1537 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,560 Speaker 1: from what I've seen so far, he does show that 1538 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,640 Speaker 1: he's got some of that right absolutely. And Josh is 1539 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,639 Speaker 1: a different type of player than Jim was too. Josh 1540 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 1: is a much better athlete, runner, kind of improviser. Jim 1541 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 1: was a true thrower, and there was a thing going 1542 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 1: around social media the day, but some highlights of Jim 1543 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 1: and you forget, man, he could he could not only 1544 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 1: sling it, but man, he could put the darned thing 1545 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 1: in a dixie cup. You know. And I saw him that, 1546 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, there was of course, it was a highlight tapes. 1547 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 1: It was all his best throws, a lot of his 1548 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 1: best thrown I was a handful of his best throws. Man, 1549 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,800 Speaker 1: Oh man, you forget that. But you didn't see him 1550 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 1: doing things that you never saw him making plays like 1551 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 1: Josh Allen made last year as a rookie. I mean, 1552 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 1: Josh made some of the unbelievable plays with his legs 1553 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,759 Speaker 1: and his arm, and so they're different types of guys, 1554 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 1: but I think the mentality is one that we've all 1555 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: said that both those guys have. Josh wants to win 1556 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,639 Speaker 1: every play, Yeah, and Jim. The one time the times 1557 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,320 Speaker 1: when you saw Jim really get fired up and angry 1558 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,560 Speaker 1: on the field was when he lost a play. And 1559 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 1: it's the same thing with Josh. So it down inside 1560 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: at their core level, that one, that one trait is 1561 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 1: there for both of them. Man, they want to win, 1562 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 1: and they want to win every time the ball is snap, 1563 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's awesome. Here's a really good to 1564 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 1: answer to this on the tweet sheet, how can Jim 1565 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 1: Kelly helped Josh Allen? The most Bills fan twelve to 1566 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: eighty three tweets this and I voted other. He said, 1567 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 1: I think he can help Josh with all those things. 1568 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 1: But what I think he will help with the most 1569 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,560 Speaker 1: is something Josh said he was preaching to him the 1570 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 1: other day, to take what the defense gives him. It 1571 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 1: comes down to the decision making, and that's because he's 1572 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 1: got all the tools go Bills. It's kind of why 1573 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: I voted to x's and Oh's because I do think 1574 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 1: Josh he doesn't have the exactly he doesn't have really 1575 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,599 Speaker 1: anything resembling Kelly's skill set or vice versa. They both 1576 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 1: are tough. I think they're both good leaders, but I 1577 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 1: think Kelly, because of his experience, mostly had kind of 1578 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 1: a really good way of figuring out what the defense 1579 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,560 Speaker 1: looked like and what he could do against it. I 1580 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,600 Speaker 1: think Josh hasn't work to do. And I love the 1581 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: fact that Josh has already acknowledged that that's what he's 1582 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 1: been getting from Jim Kelly so far. Yeah, and the 1583 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: stuff about Jim and his competitive nature that kind of 1584 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 1: fed into the type of offense they ran. The no huddle. 1585 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 1: Jim knew when the defense. He just sensed when a 1586 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: defense was weak and where it was, and he didn't 1587 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 1: want to wait until they could regroup to advantage of it. 1588 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: He'd run the guys to the line of scrimmage and 1589 01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,000 Speaker 1: go right after the guy he wanted to go after. 1590 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 1: He would put Andre on their weakest dB. He would 1591 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 1: move Thurman out of the backfield to get him on 1592 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 1: the linebacker he wanted him on. He would go fast 1593 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,599 Speaker 1: and pick a running play because they had a defensive 1594 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,920 Speaker 1: line combination in there that they couldn't compete with our 1595 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,200 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in a run situation. All those kind of things, 1596 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 1: those nuances of the game were things that Jim saw 1597 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,720 Speaker 1: on the fly and had the freedom to just jump 1598 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,679 Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and start snapping the ball. 1599 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 1: It took a long time for our offense to get 1600 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,680 Speaker 1: to their place because he wasn't calling plays. He was 1601 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,600 Speaker 1: using keywords and numbers and letters and single words for 1602 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 1: entire offensive concepts, and we were well versed enough the 1603 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 1: rest of us to execute it on at a moment's notice. 1604 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: It was second nature. That doesn't happen in June, you know, 1605 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 1: it happens one year. It happens in August and October 1606 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 1: after the second year, yeah, year, But they are they're 1607 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 1: a year into this. Yeah, they're a year into this 1608 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 1: and they can start building on what they've been been 1609 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 1: there for. And this this is kind of plays into 1610 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,799 Speaker 1: what Brian Cook put on his tweet. I think Jim's 1611 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,720 Speaker 1: true asset in this area of next level quarterback play. 1612 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,560 Speaker 1: It's not xs and os or leadership helping alan identify 1613 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,560 Speaker 1: things like when to use a quick snap or a 1614 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 1: hard count to get a free play out of the 1615 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,240 Speaker 1: defensive miscuse. That's the difference between a good quarterback and 1616 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 1: a great quarterback. And Jim had that knack. He would 1617 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 1: do things like that quick snap the ball. He would uh, 1618 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 1: like I said, go to the line of scrimmage and 1619 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 1: keep going after the same defensive back time after time. 1620 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 1: He would get matchups that he wanted. And because of 1621 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 1: the nature of the offense, and plus the fact that 1622 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 1: he had three Hall of Famers standing around him, James 1623 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 1: Loft and Andre Reid and Thurman Thomas, a little bit 1624 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 1: of an edge, you know, right. You got great guys. 1625 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 1: You got winners everywhere you look. So that helped as well. 1626 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 1: But Jim's ability to put him in the right spot 1627 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 1: and then deliver it, of course, was tantamount to success. 1628 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 1: Question is how can Jim Kelly help Josh Allen the most? 1629 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,800 Speaker 1: We should ask him. He's coming, he says, coming on 1630 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 1: one the wenning He's gonna call us, or we're gonna 1631 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 1: call him a one thirty sevele of minutes away. We'll 1632 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 1: think we'll take him back and ask him that question. 1633 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 1: Come on back. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. 1634 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bill's radio Welcome Back One goes 1635 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,240 Speaker 1: live from One Bill Drive. John Murphy Steve Tasker got 1636 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 1: an interesting Twitter bowl up and running about Jim Kelly's 1637 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 1: statement the other day that he is he has worked 1638 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 1: a little bit with the Bills quarterback group coaches and players. 1639 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know from you, how can Kelly help 1640 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: Josh Allen the most? Certainly you can help him and 1641 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,920 Speaker 1: he can be invaluable. How can he help him the most? 1642 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: Give us a call of us know what you think? 1643 01:17:58,400 --> 01:17:59,720 Speaker 1: A couple of calls on the line, we'll go to 1644 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,559 Speaker 1: day it in brockboard. Hello, David, let me punch up here, David, 1645 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 1: go ahead, and you're on the air with this, David Hi, 1646 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 1: Um yeah, um, his own plane calling because Jim uh 1647 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,599 Speaker 1: you know, um, Sean mcdermock wants Josh to learn play 1648 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 1: calling and Jim, Jim was the best at play calling. 1649 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 1: That's where you can help. Why is it important for 1650 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen to call his own plays? Um, well, it's 1651 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 1: it's not. But but uh, even when it's called in 1652 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, going over to plays. You know Jim, Jim 1653 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 1: knows the most about that. Yeah, David, I get Yeah, 1654 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 1: it's a tough call though, because and even in saying that, 1655 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,639 Speaker 1: you kind of bring up the reason that's a problem 1656 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 1: for It's it's a way that you know, as good 1657 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:56,800 Speaker 1: as Jim was uh at calling plays, you know, day 1658 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 1: Ball calls the plays for the Bills, it would be 1659 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 1: more helpful for Jim to Brian day Ball than it 1660 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 1: is for Jim to talk to to Josh Allen or 1661 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,200 Speaker 1: the fact that, and believe me, it's a tough call 1662 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,960 Speaker 1: because the guy calling plays is so integral to what 1663 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 1: goes on and it's about the relationship he has with 1664 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,559 Speaker 1: his quarterback, and the plays that Brian day Ball will 1665 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 1: call for Josh Allen would be very different than the 1666 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 1: plays Brian day Ball would call if Josh Allen were 1667 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,680 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, or if you will, if Brian Dable was 1668 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 1: calling the plays for Jim Kelly as a Bill's quarterback. 1669 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 1: The plays are different because the players are different. So 1670 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 1: as good as Jim was and as good as the 1671 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 1: plays we were, they're going to be different plays and 1672 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 1: different calls made because it's a different team. But I 1673 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 1: get it. The idea is how big a difference that 1674 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,720 Speaker 1: made for Kelly and that k gun offense was the 1675 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,960 Speaker 1: type of plays they run, the concepts they ran, and 1676 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,599 Speaker 1: the way they ran it, and the guys that were 1677 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,880 Speaker 1: running them. So to say that that's going to be 1678 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,680 Speaker 1: the difference that Jim could make for Josh Allen, I 1679 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,880 Speaker 1: don't know if you can make that assertion, because there's 1680 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:08,479 Speaker 1: so many different things going on there. Former Kelly teammate 1681 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 1: that you are how much of Kelly's success was tied 1682 01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:16,040 Speaker 1: into him calling his own plays, if if at all? Well, 1683 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,680 Speaker 1: I think yeah, there was a there was a good 1684 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 1: percentage of it was because of the fact that gave 1685 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,759 Speaker 1: us the ability, gave the team the ability to go fast, 1686 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:27,599 Speaker 1: and it gave him the ability to limit the defense 1687 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: and their ability to substitute because we were snapping the 1688 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 1: ball so fast. They didn't want to get caught with 1689 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,640 Speaker 1: twelve guys on the field, or running guys on and 1690 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,599 Speaker 1: off the field, or get caught out of alignment because 1691 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,880 Speaker 1: we were going to snap the ball, and if we 1692 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,560 Speaker 1: snapped the football and they weren't ready, it was a 1693 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 1: win for us anyway. So that was part of the success, 1694 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 1: you know. However, much more of his you know, And 1695 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: I'm sure it varied from game to games. Sometimes it 1696 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 1: was a big factor. Sometimes it wasn't such a big factor, 1697 01:20:58,160 --> 01:20:59,920 Speaker 1: but it was one of the tools in our toolball 1698 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 1: the teams had had a tough time adjusting to. But 1699 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 1: the reason was, like I said before, what are you 1700 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna do with four Hall of famers they got? We 1701 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: had guys that were good, I mean really good. I 1702 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 1: mean they you know, getting that. You know, Thurman Thomas 1703 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:19,120 Speaker 1: one of the great all roundbacks of all time, James Lofton, 1704 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 1: one of the most prolific speed receivers, big time, big play, 1705 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 1: big fifty fifty ball winner receivers. You know Andre Reid, 1706 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,439 Speaker 1: the first and one of the best all time slot 1707 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,599 Speaker 1: receivers ever. He was built like a big running back 1708 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,640 Speaker 1: and he was an impossible one on one matchup with 1709 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,679 Speaker 1: a small slot corner. So you had all these guy 1710 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 1: and Jim throwing it right. So you had all these 1711 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 1: guys I mean we I mean, you know, back in 1712 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 1: that time, nobody really wanted to say because they didn't 1713 01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: want to give those guys that kind of credit. You know, 1714 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 1: there were people that thought, well, Jim could be drawn 1715 01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,240 Speaker 1: the plays in the dirt with his finger and we'd 1716 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 1: still be good with the guys we got running it. 1717 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, so all of that stuff 1718 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,880 Speaker 1: combined made that it's never been done. Nobody's gone to 1719 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 1: four straight Super Bowls. That team did it, and they 1720 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,479 Speaker 1: did it for some pretty tough situations, through some pretty 1721 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 1: tough situations. So this Twitter poll, you know, kind of 1722 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,599 Speaker 1: distills that down to how Jim could help a new quarterback. 1723 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 1: But there were so many things working in his favor 1724 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,559 Speaker 1: and that he was able to take advantage of when 1725 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,400 Speaker 1: he was playing. I don't know if you can if 1726 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,720 Speaker 1: it's that simple of a question. Now that we now 1727 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 1: we started dissecting it, we're deep into. We're deep into. 1728 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,040 Speaker 1: When you get Jim Kelly, I'm with us. In a 1729 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 1: couple of minutes here in the meantime, we'll hear from 1730 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 1: you the question, how can Kelly most help Josh Allen 1731 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,439 Speaker 1: As Kelly stands ready to do that, give us a 1732 01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 1: call eight three fifty toll free one eight eight five 1733 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty A call here from Phil in Cheektowaga. Hello, Phil, 1734 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,960 Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Yes, it could have 1735 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,519 Speaker 1: to know. Nice show, guys. I really like watching you 1736 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,680 Speaker 1: guys and learn a lot of stuff. Thanks wondering how 1737 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,599 Speaker 1: you've felt and maybe Steve can answer this better because 1738 01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,759 Speaker 1: they played and everything that if Jim talked anything about 1739 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,320 Speaker 1: the special relationship he had with Kent Hall being his 1740 01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,640 Speaker 1: center and how much they kind of relied on each other, 1741 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,320 Speaker 1: all could have just called it the line to sit 1742 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 1: with Jim had in mind for play calling, and I'll 1743 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 1: hang up and listen to what you guys have to say. Phil. 1744 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,320 Speaker 1: That's a that's a really good insight. We've said it 1745 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 1: a little bit on the show that I thought Mitch 1746 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 1: Morse is one of the most important assets they had, 1747 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 1: and one of the one of the reasons Jim was 1748 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,080 Speaker 1: able to do the things that he did was because 1749 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,240 Speaker 1: he was so unselfish. I said, you know, he could 1750 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 1: have thrown it ninety percent of the time, but we 1751 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,640 Speaker 1: ran it and throw it really balanced fifty fifty. And 1752 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,920 Speaker 1: that was Jim's unselfishness and his ability to hand it 1753 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,600 Speaker 1: off to Thurman, his willingness and trust in handing it 1754 01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 1: off to Thurman. He also would look to the sidelines 1755 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 1: and Frank Reich or Teddy marcher Brood would give him 1756 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 1: ideas for plays to call. Even in the no huddle 1757 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,240 Speaker 1: fast pace. He would look over there and make some 1758 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 1: eye contact and they'd give him a little idea and 1759 01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 1: they would be on it and focused on what he did. 1760 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 1: That was selfish of him as well to let them 1761 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 1: help him call plays on the fly. And another reason 1762 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 1: is too Kent Hall. He trusted Kent Hall to make 1763 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,719 Speaker 1: sure the protection was set and if there was something wrong, 1764 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,639 Speaker 1: he trusted when Kent turned around from the center position 1765 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,840 Speaker 1: and said something or did something. I will say this, 1766 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:24,479 Speaker 1: there were times where Kent had the most important voice 1767 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,680 Speaker 1: on the in the organization because in that play, in 1768 01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 1: that moment, Kent would make Kent would wave Jim off 1769 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 1: of a play that was not gonna work, or Kent 1770 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 1: would change a play in a protection or something for 1771 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Jim or with Jim, and Jim didn't question it, he 1772 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,960 Speaker 1: didn't second guess him. He just said yeah, okay and 1773 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 1: they went. And that kind of trust is another way 1774 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Jim Jim's unselfishness is having that much power in the organization. 1775 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,519 Speaker 1: He trusted Kent implicitly. And it's gonna if you're gonna 1776 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:59,519 Speaker 1: be successful at quarterback. And maybe I'm colored. My judgment 1777 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,519 Speaker 1: is color because of my experiences with these type of guys. 1778 01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna it's not gonna be about Josh developing. It's 1779 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:10,799 Speaker 1: gonna be about Josh getting helped by everybody to develop 1780 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,200 Speaker 1: and him allowing them to help him and him helping 1781 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 1: them develop. It's a it's a totally unselfish atmosphere where 1782 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 1: everybody trusts everybody to get to have the best for 1783 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,840 Speaker 1: the team at heart and as that priority number one. 1784 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,680 Speaker 1: That's and I feel that that's a great call. You're right. 1785 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 1: I forgot to give Kent his credit. He was a 1786 01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,560 Speaker 1: really loud and important voice for how successful Jim was. 1787 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,639 Speaker 1: Give us a call. What do you think how can 1788 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly help Josh Allen the most? Three fifty either 1789 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,320 Speaker 1: number to call or toll free from outside Buffalo one 1790 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:47,599 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Let's go to Rochester. 1791 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Milan in Rochester's Inn. I saw your name, Yeah, Milan, Milan. 1792 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 1: Good to have you with us, Milan, Thank you. Yeah. 1793 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 1: I listen to you guys all the time. I just 1794 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about what Jim Kelly could bring to 1795 01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback corp and Josh specifically. It's the confidence, it's 1796 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,120 Speaker 1: the little nuances in the game. Uh, what makes stars 1797 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,360 Speaker 1: special with I mean, once you get to the NFL, 1798 01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 1: everybody can pretty much play quarterback. But it's those little 1799 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 1: things that make you special. Yeah, you're right, and that 1800 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,920 Speaker 1: there's more than just a few little things as well. 1801 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's about who you are as 1802 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,400 Speaker 1: a person, it's about who you are as an athlete, 1803 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 1: about who you are as a leader, and on all 1804 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 1: this stuff, the XS and those that you bring to 1805 01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 1: the table, and the leadership you bring to the table, 1806 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,760 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff mixed together with all the 1807 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 1: guys around you and a coaching staff that's there to 1808 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:40,439 Speaker 1: help you. And it is the most when you put 1809 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 1: all these things in the same sentence as Murphy, you know, 1810 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,599 Speaker 1: it brings to light how hard it is to win. Yeah, 1811 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:49,599 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. And I feel like just a co sign, 1812 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 1: even a co sign from Jim Kelly that that confidence 1813 01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 1: can bring Josh Allen to another level going into the NFL, 1814 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,639 Speaker 1: just having that confidence from a Hall of famer. Yeah, 1815 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,599 Speaker 1: I agree, Milan. I there's another thing too, when something 1816 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,200 Speaker 1: happens and Josh, for instance, if Josh has to go 1817 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 1: out and maybe call, you know, maybe hold a teammate accountable, 1818 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 1: or something happens that Josh isn't sure about, he goes here, 1819 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,599 Speaker 1: you know and if he can relay that or relate 1820 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,960 Speaker 1: that or communicate that to Jim, says Jim, this is 1821 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,320 Speaker 1: what happened, Here's what I did. There's no question he's 1822 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 1: been in that situation. And Jim will say thumbs up, 1823 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 1: thumbs down, you know, say yeah, you should have done that, 1824 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,559 Speaker 1: That's exactly the right thing to do. Or maybe next time, 1825 01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,000 Speaker 1: think about doing this. So it's a it's a you know, 1826 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,679 Speaker 1: a quarterback you can try, a source you can trust, 1827 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,320 Speaker 1: who's been through it and who is open to your 1828 01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,479 Speaker 1: you know, your questions. I think Jim is no question 1829 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 1: in that spot for Josh career in Buffalo knows how 1830 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 1: to handle Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah, that goes in one of 1831 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 1: the components up on our Twitter poll. Thanks very much. 1832 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 1: But let's see one more call on this segment from 1833 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Mike and Orchard Park. Mike, how can Jim Kelly help 1834 01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen the most? What do you think? Yeah, hey, guys, 1835 01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Okay? Great? Yeah? I think going 1836 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,880 Speaker 1: back to in my opinion, I think it's going to 1837 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:07,439 Speaker 1: be exs and os. I think teaching the kid do 1838 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: know the offense because I think one of the most 1839 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,920 Speaker 1: important parts of being a leader is knowing exactly what 1840 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,879 Speaker 1: you're doing. And when you're a quarterback and you're directing 1841 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 1: guys on the field, first of all, you have that 1842 01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:23,280 Speaker 1: command presence. And if you have the command presence and 1843 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing, and you know those nuances 1844 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,600 Speaker 1: of the game, and you put that all together and 1845 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 1: you start to win. And once you win, you start 1846 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: building a spree to cord right, So all those things 1847 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,320 Speaker 1: go together in order to make a good leader. And 1848 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 1: once I think Josh is a good leader, it starts 1849 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 1: by knowing the offense. So I think for now, Jim, 1850 01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,600 Speaker 1: his most important thing to do is to teach that 1851 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 1: kid to know the offense coal And once you know that, 1852 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 1: everyone will follow a guy who they believe in he 1853 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. I can go on with that. 1854 01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,000 Speaker 1: Sign up for that, and I think are what he 1855 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 1: has the most of offered. But he has a lot 1856 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 1: to offer in a bunch of different areas. We'll take 1857 01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 1: a breakcare we're coming back with more. It is One 1858 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo 1859 01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:17,400 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. One Bill Slide from One Bill Drive. John 1860 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,160 Speaker 1: Murphy was Team Casker. We've got former Bills safety Leonard 1861 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:21,960 Speaker 1: Smith coming up on the show at two o'clock today. 1862 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,560 Speaker 1: We're talking having a good conversation about the statement that 1863 01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,360 Speaker 1: came out a couple of days ago at Jim Kelly's 1864 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,240 Speaker 1: golf tournament. He talked about it, and I always been 1865 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,080 Speaker 1: working a little bit with Josh Allen and the Bills 1866 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,960 Speaker 1: quarterback coaching staff, and we're asking you the question, what 1867 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,679 Speaker 1: can Jim Kelly, How can Jim Kelly help Josh Allen 1868 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,479 Speaker 1: the most? What do you think? It's our Twitter poll, 1869 01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,680 Speaker 1: that's our topic of discussion. And the phone lines are 1870 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,839 Speaker 1: open eight oh three, five fifty and from outside Buffalo 1871 01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:49,639 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five 1872 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,680 Speaker 1: fifty more quarterback talk, Steven, you just brought this up, 1873 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,680 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. There was video the other day of the 1874 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,719 Speaker 1: owner of the Arizona Cardinal, Michael Bidwell, calling up Carson 1875 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,240 Speaker 1: Palm or FaceTime, I guess, telling him that he's going 1876 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 1: in the He's going to be the sixteenth member of 1877 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,320 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Ring of Honor. He spent five seasons 1878 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:12,080 Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals and he's being honored. UM, but 1879 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,920 Speaker 1: he's not, as you point out, he is not he 1880 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,639 Speaker 1: has not been honored in Cincinnati. Carson Palmer first round 1881 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,360 Speaker 1: draft pick, where he spent the majority of his career 1882 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,559 Speaker 1: played Carson and Carson said in his response to Michael 1883 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,559 Speaker 1: Bidwell about going on to the Cardinals Ring of Honor, 1884 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,559 Speaker 1: he said, I wish I'd have got there sooner as 1885 01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,160 Speaker 1: you know. Is he saying I wish I would have 1886 01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,840 Speaker 1: been a Cardinal and for more years and less. That's 1887 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,080 Speaker 1: what he's saying, man, I think that's what he's saying it. 1888 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,160 Speaker 1: You'd be hard pressed to find a lot of guys 1889 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,840 Speaker 1: who have warm fuzzies for the Cincinnati organization. You hate Cincinnatis. 1890 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't hate him. I don't know him very well, 1891 01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 1: but I know this. There are guys who don't like 1892 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,560 Speaker 1: the way they do business. They don't feel like the 1893 01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 1: ownership is pulling in the same direction as the coaches 1894 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,840 Speaker 1: and players, and and that is you know, is born 1895 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,200 Speaker 1: out in the way their franchises. You know, every once 1896 01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,280 Speaker 1: in a while, though, I mean, they caught lightning in 1897 01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,080 Speaker 1: a bottle for a while with Marvin Lewis getting to 1898 01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:10,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs every year, but they got out. They were 1899 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,800 Speaker 1: out in the first round of the playoffs every single year. 1900 01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:17,360 Speaker 1: For four years or five straight years. And Andy Dalton, 1901 01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, was it was kind of late at his 1902 01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,720 Speaker 1: feet as the reason. But nevertheless, it's an organizational accomplishment. 1903 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:26,599 Speaker 1: And and that organization they made they made two Super Bowls, 1904 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:32,479 Speaker 1: I believe, and they were roundly criticized the Carton No, no, no, 1905 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,479 Speaker 1: this is the Bengals. Yeah, okay, so uh they trade 1906 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,200 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer just stopped playing for him. Remember he demanded 1907 01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:40,840 Speaker 1: a trade. He just did not show up, said I'm 1908 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,360 Speaker 1: either going to retire or I am done. And the 1909 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Bengals traded him for two ons to the Raiders. He 1910 01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,519 Speaker 1: played there for two seasons and then was done, went 1911 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,560 Speaker 1: to Arizona, played for five more, played sixty games for 1912 01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,719 Speaker 1: the By my account, I think I added that upright, 1913 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,080 Speaker 1: that public math. I may have it wrong, but he 1914 01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:03,080 Speaker 1: played sixty games for the Cardinals and played very well 1915 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:07,160 Speaker 1: for them five seasons. Yeah, and it was I think 1916 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,640 Speaker 1: he enjoyed his last five years in Arizona more than 1917 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,200 Speaker 1: he did any of his time there years in Cincinnati. 1918 01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,760 Speaker 1: He was really limited by a pretty serious knee injury 1919 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,840 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, which obviously might account for some of the 1920 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,560 Speaker 1: feelings he hands for that organization. But I get it. 1921 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 1: I acknowledge what you're saying. The Bengals aren't and have 1922 01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:29,000 Speaker 1: been notoriously cheap, and they I don't remember. I do 1923 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,439 Speaker 1: remember Carson Palmers. You said electing just to kind of 1924 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,479 Speaker 1: walk away and forcing the trade, right, But I don't 1925 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:39,160 Speaker 1: know that. You know, you can't blame the Bengals franchise 1926 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,960 Speaker 1: for him getting hurt and maybe not being ready to 1927 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 1: play all the time, can you. No, No, that's not no, 1928 01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 1: not at all. I don't think it had anything to 1929 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,240 Speaker 1: do with the injuries. I don't think he played for 1930 01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,360 Speaker 1: a long time after he left. He played for seven 1931 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 1: more years after he left Cincinnati, or eight more years 1932 01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,720 Speaker 1: after he left Cincinnati. It was nothing to do with 1933 01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,840 Speaker 1: the physical ability to play the position. It was the 1934 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:04,040 Speaker 1: attitude and the you know, the just the I think 1935 01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,800 Speaker 1: he felt like it was a lack of support from 1936 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:10,400 Speaker 1: ownership about the organization, if you, and it's been my observation, 1937 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:15,559 Speaker 1: I mean to think that the organization and what we've 1938 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,559 Speaker 1: seen the Buffalo Bills and Terry and Kim Pegoula put 1939 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:24,240 Speaker 1: into this organization with this new facility, with the new renovations, 1940 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,120 Speaker 1: and you can say, hey, it's just a code of paint. 1941 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 1: It's just a little redecorating it. It's a little bit. 1942 01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 1: It's more than that, it's supporting the people you hire 1943 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,479 Speaker 1: in the building. The Pegoulas have done nothing but support 1944 01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,840 Speaker 1: McDermott and Brandon Bean and given them everything they've asked for, 1945 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 1: even up to a state of the art building that 1946 01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,760 Speaker 1: is designed in large part to keep players healthy and 1947 01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,960 Speaker 1: on the field. There are a handful or less it 1948 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:55,040 Speaker 1: franchises around the National Football League who would find it 1949 01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,920 Speaker 1: laughable to spend that their fans, and they would be 1950 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,600 Speaker 1: laughable for ownership to spend that kind of money doing that. 1951 01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,080 Speaker 1: Do you think the Raiders are spending that kind of 1952 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,960 Speaker 1: money doing that. There is no way the Bengals, there 1953 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,639 Speaker 1: is no way they that is not even on their 1954 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,759 Speaker 1: radar to sink that kind of money into the franchise 1955 01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,320 Speaker 1: unless the city pays forward or the county pays They 1956 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,839 Speaker 1: would never drop that kind of money into their franchise. 1957 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,160 Speaker 1: And that's why this franch You've got people coming on 1958 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:23,720 Speaker 1: like field Yates, You're saying, hey, this is the most 1959 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:27,120 Speaker 1: improved franchise in the NFL. That's part of the reason 1960 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,000 Speaker 1: that this franchise. They these guys and this football into 1961 01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:35,400 Speaker 1: this operation. All these guys, they are all about it. 1962 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,960 Speaker 1: They feel like they're empowered, they're doing their thing, and 1963 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:42,040 Speaker 1: they're staying discipline, and it's a it's a huge, huge 1964 01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,200 Speaker 1: difference in some of the other franchises. That's one of 1965 01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:46,960 Speaker 1: the things I noticed first and foremost when I got 1966 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,120 Speaker 1: to the CBS thing. When I was doing that, I'd 1967 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,920 Speaker 1: go out every week and I'd go to go to Cleveland, 1968 01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,080 Speaker 1: go to Cincinnati, go to Oakland, go to Seattle, go 1969 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,479 Speaker 1: to Houston, go to Miami, go to Charlotte, go to 1970 01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:02,439 Speaker 1: all Atlantic, every NFL city. And what I noticed was 1971 01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,160 Speaker 1: you always think, well, it's an NFL team, and they're 1972 01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:05,800 Speaker 1: all kind of the same. They share the same money. 1973 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 1: It's thirty two different businesses and all those business all 1974 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:13,120 Speaker 1: those teams are vastly different in some ways and exactly 1975 01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,400 Speaker 1: the same in others. But they are vastly different in 1976 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,640 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. And it all starts with the 1977 01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 1: kind of atmosphere that the ownership and the leadership put 1978 01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:26,439 Speaker 1: out there. And Carson Palmer's at it, and it's Calvin 1979 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,719 Speaker 1: Johnson and Detroit. He won't even go in the building. 1980 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,200 Speaker 1: He won't even you know, he won't even go near 1981 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,640 Speaker 1: that building. Barry Sanders, he walked off. These disgusted with him, 1982 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:39,320 Speaker 1: say it's just it starts the top, and you know 1983 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:45,680 Speaker 1: it's I'll tell you now, you've got an ownership group here. Man, 1984 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,559 Speaker 1: they they are fully invested. And I don't know who 1985 01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 1: knows and we know this, who knows the kind of 1986 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 1: translating to wins. But man, oh man, they're doing it right. 1987 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,240 Speaker 1: And then you got tip players that just over the 1988 01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,439 Speaker 1: course of the last years, and Carson Palmer we're talking 1989 01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,600 Speaker 1: about one of them. He just walked away. Man, he 1990 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,760 Speaker 1: couldn't take it because the atmosphere in the building was like, 1991 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,400 Speaker 1: they're not even trying. You know, you got guys down 1992 01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,840 Speaker 1: there playing broke, getting shot up to play, you know, 1993 01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 1: playing hurt, practicing hurt, and you get and you get 1994 01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,759 Speaker 1: the feeling from the ownership they're not even trying. Carson 1995 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:19,360 Speaker 1: Palmer is the thirteenth ranked passer in NFL history, which 1996 01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:22,400 Speaker 1: is surprising me. It's set higher high forty six thousand, 1997 01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:26,320 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty seven yards, Thirteenth in passing yardage 1998 01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,679 Speaker 1: all time. Aaron Rodgers may pass him this year. Rodgers 1999 01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,000 Speaker 1: about thirty five hundred yards behind it, But Carson Palmer 2000 01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,840 Speaker 1: had more career passing yardists than Hall of famers like 2001 01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:39,519 Speaker 1: Dan Fouts, Aaron Rodgers. Currently anyway, Joe Montana, Johnny Unitis, 2002 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,200 Speaker 1: this is Carson Palmer. We're talking about more yardage in 2003 01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,599 Speaker 1: that group. Jim Kelly, more yardist in, Steve Young, Ya Tittle, 2004 01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:49,160 Speaker 1: Troy Aitman, Kurt Warner, Hall of Famer. Carson Palmer has 2005 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,880 Speaker 1: really lit it up. He's been prolific. Sonny Jerkinson. I mean, 2006 01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,080 Speaker 1: now we're in a different era. You want to yeah, 2007 01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:57,560 Speaker 1: you want to talk about a guy was It's a 2008 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:01,760 Speaker 1: little bit like Archie Manning back in the day. He 2009 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,880 Speaker 1: was the best quarterback on the worst team, best quarterback 2010 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:06,439 Speaker 1: in the league and the worst team. You know, he's 2011 01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,200 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer when he came out. You talk to guys 2012 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,320 Speaker 1: who are and I'm not one of them, but I'm 2013 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,040 Speaker 1: just mimicking, parroting what I've heard other experts say. Guys 2014 01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:17,240 Speaker 1: who look at quarterbacks and watch quarterbacks, how they hold 2015 01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,280 Speaker 1: the ball, how they dropped back, their footwork, their technique, 2016 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:24,439 Speaker 1: their platform, when they throw, their motion, their release. Carson 2017 01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 1: Palmer was maybe the best, some guys would tell you, 2018 01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,680 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe guys since then, but they tell you 2019 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:34,920 Speaker 1: they would he was the best technical quarterback ever ever 2020 01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 1: and it proved to be. You know, he proved to 2021 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,479 Speaker 1: be a very good quarterback and he went to the 2022 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:43,000 Speaker 1: Since then had he Bengals a Heisman Trophy winner? I 2023 01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:44,880 Speaker 1: had a Heisman vote back then. I voted for him. 2024 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,280 Speaker 1: I got laughed at by football people in this building 2025 01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,439 Speaker 1: at that time. They're no longer here. How could you 2026 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:53,000 Speaker 1: vote for that guy? He's good? I knew, really Trophy winner? Yeah, 2027 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,240 Speaker 1: I got my vote. A break and then we come 2028 01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,000 Speaker 1: back and Leonard Smith's gonna join this long time Bill safety. 2029 01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,439 Speaker 1: He was just in town for the Gym Kelly Golf 2030 01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,800 Speaker 1: tournament weekend. We'll talk with Leonard about back, Come on Back. 2031 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,679 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalaida Health from One Bills Drive. 2032 01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:16,200 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radiolo Bills Radio Network Stories update 2033 01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,599 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. Today is a day off organized 2034 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,600 Speaker 1: team activity. They're here for more condition. You know, the 2035 01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,519 Speaker 1: players end some meeting time. OTA's practices resumed tomorrow. Two 2036 01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,040 Speaker 1: more this week Tomorrow and Friday, and then the three 2037 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,440 Speaker 1: day mandatory minicamp starts with the Bills next Tuesday. Patriots 2038 01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,600 Speaker 1: are short and numbers at tight end now. They have 2039 01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,800 Speaker 1: released veteran Austin Seferian Jenkin and just signed a one 2040 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,879 Speaker 1: year contract a couple of months ago, not at mandatory minicamp. 2041 01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:43,240 Speaker 1: Yesterday at coach Bill Belichick said that he had been released. 2042 01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,439 Speaker 1: One hundred sixteen career receptions in forty three games over 2043 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,760 Speaker 1: five seasons for Austin Seferian Jenkins. So the Patriots have 2044 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,880 Speaker 1: veteran Ben Watson on the roster is a tight end, 2045 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,160 Speaker 1: but he'll miss the first four games this year because 2046 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,920 Speaker 1: of a suspension. They have these tight end See if 2047 01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:02,120 Speaker 1: you recognize any names, Matt lacosse Zo, Stephen Anderson, Andrew Beck, 2048 01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,599 Speaker 1: the rest of the Patriots step chart. I'm not saying 2049 01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,680 Speaker 1: it's a problem, just saying it. Lamorrow Bowman, calling it 2050 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,800 Speaker 1: a career, decided to retire and wants to go out 2051 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,800 Speaker 1: as a member of the San Francisco forty nine ers. 2052 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,640 Speaker 1: Stop by there yesterday to announce his retirement, saying he 2053 01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,280 Speaker 1: wanted to return or retire as a member of the 2054 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,960 Speaker 1: team for which he played seven or more years. NBA 2055 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,920 Speaker 1: Finals Kevin Durant is out of tonight's Game three. Clay 2056 01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 1: Thompson is questionable as the Golden State Warriors are home 2057 01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,800 Speaker 1: against Toronto for Game three. The series tied one when 2058 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,479 Speaker 1: a Peace Durant is not played since injuring his calf 2059 01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,480 Speaker 1: on May eighth against the Rockets in the Western Conference semifinals. 2060 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,680 Speaker 1: Did not practice yesterday, but getting close. It'll be a 2061 01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,479 Speaker 1: game time decision on Clay Thompson. Nine o'clock tip off 2062 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,880 Speaker 1: tonight at Golden State. The Warriors and the Toronto Raptors 2063 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,920 Speaker 1: Standy Cup Finals resumed tomorrow night. They're back to Boston 2064 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,839 Speaker 1: for Game five Tomorrow night. That's an eight o'clock faceoff 2065 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,559 Speaker 1: in Boston. Series two wins apiece. Bruin's coach Bruce Cassidy 2066 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,680 Speaker 1: says injured Defensemans and Daniel Shara will be evaluating. Their 2067 01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,240 Speaker 1: team is preparing as if he cannot go Tomorrow night 2068 01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,639 Speaker 1: and a double had a are the Bisens tonight, Scranton 2069 01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,320 Speaker 1: Rokesbury rail Riders providing the opposition. Game one of the 2070 01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:07,400 Speaker 1: double header five thirty five tonight at salin Field. Last night, 2071 01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,160 Speaker 1: Bisen's got a third inning grand slam from Billy McKinney 2072 01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:12,599 Speaker 1: to beat Granton Wookesbury by a score of five to four. 2073 01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,519 Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy and 2074 01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:18,240 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker coming to you from our one Buffalo studio 2075 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,000 Speaker 1: and talking a lot about the Bills, talking about what 2076 01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,719 Speaker 1: impact Jim Kelly might have. But speaking of the Bills 2077 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,840 Speaker 1: and Kelly Super Bowl teams, we have one of the 2078 01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,320 Speaker 1: key members of that group. I'm with us right now 2079 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:32,080 Speaker 1: from his home in Louisiana, Bill's Safety. Leonard Smith joins 2080 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,160 Speaker 1: us on the line. He was here over the weekend 2081 01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,720 Speaker 1: for Kelly's golf tournament. Leonard is John Murphy and Steve 2082 01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:38,680 Speaker 1: Tasker up here in Buffalo. Thank you for joining us today. 2083 01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,720 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Appreciate you guys. How was everything going 2084 01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 1: to s aftern going good? You're making home Okay, yeah, 2085 01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm made it home and ready to head out again. 2086 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:52,439 Speaker 1: But everything's cool. One of the things I noticed that 2087 01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:54,880 Speaker 1: when you look back at your career, and I was 2088 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,720 Speaker 1: kind of just checking it out because you played from 2089 01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:00,320 Speaker 1: eighty three all the way through ninety one, and I 2090 01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,719 Speaker 1: was laughing because it says you played for Saint Louis, 2091 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,439 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, wait a minute, Saint Louis. 2092 01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't the Rams, it was the Cardinals. When they 2093 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,600 Speaker 1: were at Saint Louis, and then in the middle of 2094 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,639 Speaker 1: that you went to Phoenix and then you were traded 2095 01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,120 Speaker 1: to Buffalo. What do you remember about the transition from 2096 01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:21,160 Speaker 1: the Cardinals to Buffalo? The call I had heard think that, 2097 01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, I may be traded, but we had just 2098 01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 1: got out to Phoenix anyway, and actually we had played 2099 01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:33,240 Speaker 1: three games that year and then but rumors had surface 2100 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,960 Speaker 1: that I may get traded, may get traded, but you know, 2101 01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,439 Speaker 1: you don't know it until it actually happened. And that 2102 01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:41,320 Speaker 1: was off the day after we had actually lost to Tampa, 2103 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,559 Speaker 1: and I sitting that home of phone rings and low 2104 01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,719 Speaker 1: hole with Larry Wilson. Hey, you've just been traded to Buffalo. 2105 01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,320 Speaker 1: Were letting you were a first round pick just six 2106 01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,360 Speaker 1: years before the right They had to be shocking to you. 2107 01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,479 Speaker 1: I would think a little bit as all pro as 2108 01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,120 Speaker 1: a captain, you know, of the last few years and 2109 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:04,599 Speaker 1: one of the leaders on the team. Yeah, you know, so, yeah, 2110 01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:07,280 Speaker 1: it was a little bit starting in a little bit. 2111 01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:11,080 Speaker 1: But at that point Gene Stalin's had became the head coach. 2112 01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,160 Speaker 1: He actually came on there in Saint Louis and made 2113 01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:19,080 Speaker 1: the transition to Arizona. So, um, yeah, it was a 2114 01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,760 Speaker 1: little shocking, but you know, it's one of those things 2115 01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,960 Speaker 1: doing that time, you just understand that trades happening and 2116 01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 1: you really don't have a whole lot to see about it, 2117 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,759 Speaker 1: but grab your bags and go pick up some stadium 2118 01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:34,160 Speaker 1: and move on. What did What do you remember about 2119 01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:38,040 Speaker 1: walking into the Bills locker room for the first time. Well, 2120 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,360 Speaker 1: I remember coming there playing and whether what the fan 2121 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,920 Speaker 1: base was like. So you know, my my biggest thing 2122 01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:47,840 Speaker 1: was like, whoa, that's where I'm going. And and you 2123 01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:51,080 Speaker 1: guys were already on a winning streak. You're already at 2124 01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,600 Speaker 1: that point three and oh getting ready to play Pittsburgh 2125 01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,000 Speaker 1: that upcoming weekend. So you know, I knew I was 2126 01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:00,439 Speaker 1: going somewhere at that point that was winning. But you 2127 01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:04,360 Speaker 1: know longer hole. Um, I was actually supposed to key 2128 01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:08,560 Speaker 1: to the Bills way back in eighty three. You know, 2129 01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:12,240 Speaker 1: they picked Tony Hunter and actually um, Jim Kelly, but 2130 01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,360 Speaker 1: I was on the short list of being drafted there 2131 01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:19,400 Speaker 1: in eighty three. But I was with a losing team 2132 01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,160 Speaker 1: at that time, the Cardinals, and we wasn't winning, and 2133 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,120 Speaker 1: also the Bills wasn't winning, So it was great to 2134 01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:28,160 Speaker 1: finally be on the team that it started, all three 2135 01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 1: and old, and we you know, we made the playoffs 2136 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,479 Speaker 1: that year and almost got to the super Bowl, and 2137 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,280 Speaker 1: my first thing was I was in the playoffs and 2138 01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:39,160 Speaker 1: that hadn't happened in my career with the Saint Louis R. 2139 01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:43,240 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal, So it was exciting. Letters Smith joins his 2140 01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:46,160 Speaker 1: former Bills safety on the back end of that defense line. 2141 01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:47,920 Speaker 1: It it was you and my friend Mark Kelso, right 2142 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,760 Speaker 1: YouTube kind of were the mainstays for those early Super 2143 01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:54,639 Speaker 1: Bowl years for the Bills, Mark Kelso, Yeah, Nate Odhams 2144 01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:59,080 Speaker 1: and at that time, it was j. D. Williams back 2145 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:03,679 Speaker 1: there a little bit, right, Jag was back there, Um Jackson, 2146 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, we had Kurbert Jackson, group of Kurbert, Yeah, 2147 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,240 Speaker 1: group of guys back there, and even the Nickel and 2148 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,479 Speaker 1: a Dime package that came in. You know, we had 2149 01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,920 Speaker 1: it pretty well rounded team along with one of the 2150 01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:19,400 Speaker 1: best pass rushers you could ask for it. So he 2151 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,439 Speaker 1: made out y'all a whole lot easier. Yeah. I just say, 2152 01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,439 Speaker 1: you know, people, we were talking about the Super Bowl 2153 01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,680 Speaker 1: era teams here in Buffalo earlier today, and people immediately 2154 01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:29,680 Speaker 1: go to the k Gun and Callie and Read and 2155 01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,679 Speaker 1: Thurman and the great offense. But that was a solid defense. 2156 01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:34,560 Speaker 1: More than solid, that was a very good defense you 2157 01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,840 Speaker 1: guys had in that Super Bowl run right Um for 2158 01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:41,000 Speaker 1: the few years. Yeah, you know, we gave the ball 2159 01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:43,519 Speaker 1: back to them quite a bit to the offense and 2160 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,679 Speaker 1: they did they think, But you know, defense as a whole, 2161 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:48,760 Speaker 1: it was. You know, it's kind of hard to sit 2162 01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:52,040 Speaker 1: in ten point one guy. You're gonna Scott from Bruce 2163 01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:57,200 Speaker 1: to Um to Darrek Talley on one side, Crenelius, you know, Leon, 2164 01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean Jeff right in the middle. I mean, we 2165 01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,360 Speaker 1: had a pretty much a great front and you couldn't 2166 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,719 Speaker 1: actually ten point one guy to shut down because someone 2167 01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,879 Speaker 1: else was going to come loose. All with the linebacker's blitzen, 2168 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, it came from just about every direction you 2169 01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:16,400 Speaker 1: could think it was coming from him, and you really 2170 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,320 Speaker 1: didn't know most of the time. Right. And one of 2171 01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:20,280 Speaker 1: the things that came out over this last weekend when 2172 01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,519 Speaker 1: you were in town for the thing was that NFL 2173 01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,439 Speaker 1: Network is going to do a Football Life on Bruce Smith. 2174 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:27,920 Speaker 1: What can you tell us as a guy who played, 2175 01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, in the secondary behind Bruce Smith, what do 2176 01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:32,880 Speaker 1: you remember about him and his career? I mean the 2177 01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,800 Speaker 1: guys he put I think he put the sack record 2178 01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,280 Speaker 1: kind of out of reach almost. What do you tell 2179 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,040 Speaker 1: us about the guy that you played with on the 2180 01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:45,839 Speaker 1: field on defense? Bruce was out player and the biggest 2181 01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:49,920 Speaker 1: thing in what Bruce was his first step. He's coming 2182 01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,080 Speaker 1: off the ball like he's in a forty yard dash 2183 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,160 Speaker 1: and as low as he could get in turn a 2184 01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,680 Speaker 1: corner that low as a big man as he was, 2185 01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, it was amazing. But know every weekend, he 2186 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:05,120 Speaker 1: was coming at you every weekend, and you know, with 2187 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,000 Speaker 1: Carnegians on the other side, it was a little tag team. 2188 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,360 Speaker 1: You know who's gonna wind up with the most sacks 2189 01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:14,360 Speaker 1: that day? But you know, all of a suddenly you 2190 01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,640 Speaker 1: just didn't know. And Bruce got on a roll and 2191 01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,439 Speaker 1: got one early. It was gonna be a long day 2192 01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,840 Speaker 1: for whoever was in front of him and whoever it 2193 01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:26,040 Speaker 1: was gonna help out blocking him, because it was kind 2194 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,080 Speaker 1: of hard to stop him once he got going. He 2195 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:32,720 Speaker 1: truly was a one gifted as after league that um, 2196 01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of hard to stop. You know, 2197 01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:39,439 Speaker 1: everybody talked about Reggie White, Um, you know he came 2198 01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:42,240 Speaker 1: with his as well, but his was more strength and 2199 01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:44,599 Speaker 1: picking you up and slamming you and getting there as well. 2200 01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:48,840 Speaker 1: Whip speed, but Bruce Bruce had the strength, but his 2201 01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,559 Speaker 1: here will beat you definitely from the first step. If 2202 01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:54,920 Speaker 1: you get the first step for you, you can go 2203 01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,000 Speaker 1: and just go in and comet that sack. You can 2204 01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:01,360 Speaker 1: turn around and look at him tackling the quarterback. Most Hey, Leonard, 2205 01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,960 Speaker 1: I want to ask you. You grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. 2206 01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,400 Speaker 1: How does a guy of your ability get out of 2207 01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,320 Speaker 1: LSU wind up at McNee state as a high school senior? 2208 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,679 Speaker 1: How that? How did that happen? Well, it didn't happen 2209 01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:16,400 Speaker 1: because because of healthwise, I had heard my leg in 2210 01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:19,439 Speaker 1: the high school playoffs and actually I was going to 2211 01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:24,120 Speaker 1: LSU and wind up not being able to sign because 2212 01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:28,120 Speaker 1: of my leg. And McNeese said offered me a scholarship 2213 01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:31,120 Speaker 1: and quite a few other schools, but I just had 2214 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,320 Speaker 1: counted out everybody because that's where I was going. But 2215 01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,439 Speaker 1: injuries kind of play a trick on you. And a 2216 01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:43,479 Speaker 1: good thing about that was when they said no. John McCann, 2217 01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,600 Speaker 1: who used to play at LSU, was one of the 2218 01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:50,200 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators at McNeice who was actually recruiting me, and 2219 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, he came to me before everything in and say, hey, 2220 01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:57,280 Speaker 1: it's still available. What you'd like to come? I said, 2221 01:47:57,400 --> 01:47:59,160 Speaker 1: most definitely, because I didn't think I was going to 2222 01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:02,200 Speaker 1: play at all that Yeah, but yeah I didn't. I 2223 01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,000 Speaker 1: didn't get pushed out of it though. It was just 2224 01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:06,320 Speaker 1: one of those things that happened. And you know, I'm 2225 01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,719 Speaker 1: glad what happened with me to turn out well because 2226 01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:11,760 Speaker 1: at this point, if I had to do it all 2227 01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:16,400 Speaker 1: over again, I'll go to McNeice from the bigger beginning. Sure, Hey, 2228 01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,000 Speaker 1: I came across this too, and this blew me away. 2229 01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,960 Speaker 1: You at McNeice, you set the NCAA record for total 2230 01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,320 Speaker 1: career block kicks seventeen block kits kicks in your career there, 2231 01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:30,160 Speaker 1: ten field goals. How'd you do that? Hundred? What was 2232 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:35,000 Speaker 1: going on there? That speed and coming off the corner 2233 01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:39,640 Speaker 1: with great guys and technique as just and an not 2234 01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,200 Speaker 1: to worry about the ball hurting or anything. But you know, 2235 01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,400 Speaker 1: with Steve, he knows that if if your guy works 2236 01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:48,920 Speaker 1: well with you and you can get off the ball, 2237 01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,880 Speaker 1: you can get there. Um. But that was just one 2238 01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:54,800 Speaker 1: of those things I wanted to do as well, and 2239 01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:57,560 Speaker 1: I tried to do it well and I did. But 2240 01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:02,200 Speaker 1: you know that speed and come off the corner. That's 2241 01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,479 Speaker 1: along with teammates working with you. So do you know 2242 01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:08,839 Speaker 1: how many block kicks you had NFL career? Like like seven? 2243 01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:12,200 Speaker 1: Seven block kicks? Yeah, it wasn't that many. Seven, Yeah, Leonard, 2244 01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:14,479 Speaker 1: you you did it so well. You're in the College 2245 01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,479 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame? Is that correct? Yes? Yes? When 2246 01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:23,760 Speaker 1: when did you go in? I went in, UM two fourteen. Congratulate. 2247 01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,200 Speaker 1: That's a great honor. You're also in the Louisiana Sports 2248 01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:29,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame as well. That's UM. And it speaks 2249 01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,560 Speaker 1: to your success at McNee State. And you're telling me 2250 01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,200 Speaker 1: that even though you had that if you could have it, 2251 01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:37,080 Speaker 1: if if you'd have known then what you know now, 2252 01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:39,439 Speaker 1: LSU would never have been on the table. You loved 2253 01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:42,439 Speaker 1: your experience at McNee State. It turned out great, it 2254 01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:45,400 Speaker 1: really did, you know, UM. And that was the one 2255 01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:47,400 Speaker 1: thing I tried to tell guys, now, you know, go 2256 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,320 Speaker 1: where you can play, and that was a good thing. 2257 01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,920 Speaker 1: I got a chance to play, UM. You know with 2258 01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,559 Speaker 1: me coming out. An amazing thing is I was ranking 2259 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:58,920 Speaker 1: number one corner in some poles and number two. Um, 2260 01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,840 Speaker 1: I want up and the only player selected in the 2261 01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:07,599 Speaker 1: first round out of any of Louisians Louisiana School including LSU. 2262 01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,439 Speaker 1: So I guess the talent is still showed enough that 2263 01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:16,560 Speaker 1: I was drafted where I was. Everything else kind of 2264 01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,719 Speaker 1: stands for it. So on the line with Leonard Smith, 2265 01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,280 Speaker 1: who played safety for the Bill Strong safety for about 2266 01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:24,080 Speaker 1: four years in the Super Bowl eerie era of late 2267 01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,640 Speaker 1: eighties early nineties, Hey, Leonard, your style of player. You 2268 01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:30,880 Speaker 1: were noted for toughness and big hits back there. Could 2269 01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,800 Speaker 1: you do that now in today's NFL the way they 2270 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:37,719 Speaker 1: call the game, No, not at all? Let out? No, really, 2271 01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:45,320 Speaker 1: why not happening a vulnerable player even though he's out 2272 01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,320 Speaker 1: there wearing pads, he was a vulnerable player. Don't come 2273 01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:50,880 Speaker 1: on the field. That's the only vulnerable person is the 2274 01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,920 Speaker 1: one that's out, that's in the stand. Yeah, you come 2275 01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:56,800 Speaker 1: out on the field, of you you're coming. You know 2276 01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna get hit, you know. But the biggest thing 2277 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:03,360 Speaker 1: is I understand the hit thing. I truly do. We 2278 01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,240 Speaker 1: argue about that all the time, but you know it's 2279 01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,720 Speaker 1: just hard, you know. And now you're saying how hard 2280 01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,880 Speaker 1: you can hit somebody? You know, you can get penalized 2281 01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:17,240 Speaker 1: just because of a great vicious hit, which is legal. 2282 01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,320 Speaker 1: You still can get a flag on that, right, So 2283 01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:24,080 Speaker 1: I understand, you know, health wise, you know, and I 2284 01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:29,880 Speaker 1: understand that completely. But you know, it's it's curving aggressive 2285 01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,160 Speaker 1: play from a defensive guy who has two things to do, 2286 01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:38,320 Speaker 1: interceptiball or separate you from the ball. You know, the 2287 01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,080 Speaker 1: ball is supposed to be ours as well, you know, 2288 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:45,000 Speaker 1: and sit And I understand the launching. You know, if 2289 01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,360 Speaker 1: you're launching and only leading with your head like a missile, 2290 01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,640 Speaker 1: I understand that. But you launch yourself as well to 2291 01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:55,240 Speaker 1: go into a guy into his chest area, your head, 2292 01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,639 Speaker 1: your helmet just happened to hit him in the lord chen. 2293 01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:02,720 Speaker 1: That's appeality. It's just the position that you've given a 2294 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:08,000 Speaker 1: defensive player. His target is very little as a waistline period. 2295 01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:10,479 Speaker 1: And like I said, if you go through him with 2296 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,960 Speaker 1: enough force, you know they're telling you, oh, you could 2297 01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:17,960 Speaker 1: have made the tackle a different way. How right do 2298 01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:20,599 Speaker 1: you have any Leonard? Do you have any regrets about 2299 01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:24,920 Speaker 1: your career? No? No, no, I just you know in 2300 01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:30,000 Speaker 1: it a little abrupted because of infection that I received. 2301 01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,880 Speaker 1: But you know I looked back at it. I am great, 2302 01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:37,000 Speaker 1: a lot of great friends, including you, Um that I've 2303 01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, met along the way. I have nothing to 2304 01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:44,000 Speaker 1: look back and say, you know, I regret other than um, 2305 01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:46,200 Speaker 1: I didn't get enough time in to do a little 2306 01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:50,760 Speaker 1: more damage perfect helen it. Obviously we saw you, Steve. 2307 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:52,400 Speaker 1: I saw you. I saw you over the weekend here 2308 01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,559 Speaker 1: for the Jim Kelly Weekend and you have the uh 2309 01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:59,040 Speaker 1: the what eight years with Saint Louis right? I have 2310 01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,560 Speaker 1: that right? Eighty three six years would say there was 2311 01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:04,560 Speaker 1: three plus years here were the Buffalo Bills. Do you 2312 01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:07,360 Speaker 1: consider yourself in retirement a Buffalo Bill? I mean, do 2313 01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,680 Speaker 1: you ever go back to Phoenix and reunite with that 2314 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:13,040 Speaker 1: group back there that you played with? I go quite often. 2315 01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,519 Speaker 1: I was in Phoenix super Bowl week and went to 2316 01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:21,120 Speaker 1: the Phoenix Open, so I get back. But it's a 2317 01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:24,519 Speaker 1: different crowd, and I'm still quite close to a lot 2318 01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:28,200 Speaker 1: of the friends there that among brothers, with the Cardinals 2319 01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,439 Speaker 1: from O Johannis and the Roy Greene, a lot of 2320 01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,599 Speaker 1: young I can go down the list that we still 2321 01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:37,920 Speaker 1: get together. But it's something about the Bills that made 2322 01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:41,439 Speaker 1: it more family you know, the Cardinals were you know, 2323 01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,920 Speaker 1: we wasn't winning though it wasn't a whole lot going 2324 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:47,479 Speaker 1: on now, the organizations and making a little better move 2325 01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:51,559 Speaker 1: and bringing players back and everything. But you know, from 2326 01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:55,320 Speaker 1: the day I arrived in Buffalo, it was a whole 2327 01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:58,639 Speaker 1: different thing. Is forest family And you played that way 2328 01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,920 Speaker 1: because you knew he was playing for someone else that's 2329 01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:06,840 Speaker 1: behind here in front of you. And still got great friends, 2330 01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,040 Speaker 1: great memories and wouldn't check anything away from it. But 2331 01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,680 Speaker 1: I consider Buffalo because I's to have a home there. 2332 01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:18,160 Speaker 1: My wife is actually detective there now, she's an investigator 2333 01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:22,000 Speaker 1: for the DA's office. So, um, I get back to Buffalo, 2334 01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:25,680 Speaker 1: love it, Um, get back to the Cardinals. It's just 2335 01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:29,400 Speaker 1: a little different. It's not so much hands on with 2336 01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. With the Bills, it's still hands on, which 2337 01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,600 Speaker 1: is very nice. It was great to see you this weekend, 2338 01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:36,240 Speaker 1: and we thank you for spending a few minutes with 2339 01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:39,160 Speaker 1: us here today. No problems. Nice thing again as well, 2340 01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:43,920 Speaker 1: all right, man Leonard Smith Bill safety in the Super 2341 01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:47,680 Speaker 1: Bowl era, he was a ferocious holder and he didn't 2342 01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:49,560 Speaker 1: even think about when I asked you, did you play 2343 01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:51,400 Speaker 1: like that? Now? He didn't even give it a Minnesota 2344 01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,280 Speaker 1: said no Goodness, wouldn't get away with it. He's right, 2345 01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:57,520 Speaker 1: yea in eighty I think I can't remember when it was, 2346 01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:01,560 Speaker 1: but early in the season one Sea and he hit Jim. 2347 01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean we played him and he had played against 2348 01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,800 Speaker 1: us in one of the previous years or maybe previous 2349 01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:08,600 Speaker 1: games or I can't even remember when it was. And 2350 01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,440 Speaker 1: he hit Jim in the jaw when he was playing 2351 01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:14,920 Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals and knocked Jim and knocked him, 2352 01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, head over heels, and uh like wow, that 2353 01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:21,840 Speaker 1: got you know, it kind of gets your attention, you know, 2354 01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:23,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, who, we got a guy from 2355 01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Who is it? And the way we knew 2356 01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,960 Speaker 1: him was he was the guy that knocked Jim. We 2357 01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:32,400 Speaker 1: got that guy. Yeah, yeah, sweet, I'm glad he's on 2358 01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,640 Speaker 1: our side now. Who he does that to Marino? So 2359 01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:38,080 Speaker 1: that's how you know, he just met and then he 2360 01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:39,600 Speaker 1: was the guy too, and you see, and the people 2361 01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:41,680 Speaker 1: met washing on MSG. He had this thing where he 2362 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:44,200 Speaker 1: would go around the locker room before every game and 2363 01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:47,600 Speaker 1: he would high five everybody on the team, every trainer, coach, 2364 01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,240 Speaker 1: every person that was going on the field on those sidelines. 2365 01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,080 Speaker 1: Leonard would go and high five of them and high 2366 01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:55,640 Speaker 1: five them hard. And Marv used to run off and 2367 01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:59,520 Speaker 1: go put a glove on, like a big heavy winter 2368 01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:01,960 Speaker 1: glove on, so we could high five Leonard because he'd 2369 01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,280 Speaker 1: do it. So he would really literally hit you really hard, 2370 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:08,640 Speaker 1: and it was no fun. It's no fun. And so 2371 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,160 Speaker 1: guys were like preparing for when Lender would come around 2372 01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:14,400 Speaker 1: to high five of them. And yeah, he was. He 2373 01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:18,320 Speaker 1: was a great player, really productive for us, and it's 2374 01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,680 Speaker 1: great to hear him doing okay, but truly a great 2375 01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:24,160 Speaker 1: college player as well. Leonard Smith happy to talk to him. 2376 01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:26,920 Speaker 1: Try to you talk to him. I talked him Sunday night. 2377 01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,320 Speaker 1: You saw him at the golf tournaments time on Monday. Hey, yeah, Well, 2378 01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:31,280 Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today, we think it's a good one 2379 01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:32,920 Speaker 1: and we'd like to get your response to this too. 2380 01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:35,600 Speaker 1: So Jim Kelly says he's been spending time in the 2381 01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:39,000 Speaker 1: quarterback meeting room and how can he help Josh Allen 2382 01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,400 Speaker 1: the most? On Twitter, we're asking that question. We got 2383 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,840 Speaker 1: some good responses on Twitter, and we know Jim has 2384 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:45,839 Speaker 1: a lot to offer, but we're asking you to determine 2385 01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:49,120 Speaker 1: how Kelly can be the most help to Josh Allen 2386 01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,760 Speaker 1: as a as an observer in the quarterback room. How 2387 01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,320 Speaker 1: can Jim Kelly help Josh Allen the most on Twitter 2388 01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:57,280 Speaker 1: more than seven under twenty five votes in Thirty six 2389 01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:59,040 Speaker 1: percent of you say he can help with the x's 2390 01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:02,080 Speaker 1: and oh's, thirty three percent say you can help with leadership, 2391 01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:04,920 Speaker 1: twenty one percent say you can help Josh Allen develop 2392 01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,600 Speaker 1: into the face of the franchise. Ten percent have something 2393 01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:09,520 Speaker 1: else in mind. Give us a call eight oh three 2394 01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:13,720 Speaker 1: five fifty toll free one eight eight fifty two five fifty. 2395 01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:16,160 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. A call here from Bob. 2396 01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:18,000 Speaker 1: Bob's on the line. Hello, Bob, go ahead, you're on 2397 01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:23,280 Speaker 1: the air. Hi, guys, remember last week when Brownie said 2398 01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:26,200 Speaker 1: how well that Josh Allen was doing on a two 2399 01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:29,720 Speaker 1: minute drive? Yep, it seemed like he was quick that way. 2400 01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:33,120 Speaker 1: And I think that Kelly, of all people, boy, he 2401 01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:36,080 Speaker 1: could help him out a lot on nad You know 2402 01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we're in a game or two 2403 01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:41,160 Speaker 1: minute drive, you couldn't ask for a better guy to 2404 01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,240 Speaker 1: teach him than Kelly on nad Man. That's a good point, Bob. Yeah, 2405 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:47,560 Speaker 1: there's and whatever nuances there are, what everything's Jim saw 2406 01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:50,320 Speaker 1: or did. There's no question there's a couple of pointers 2407 01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,600 Speaker 1: that Jim could give Josh. That doesn't mean Brian Dabole 2408 01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:57,200 Speaker 1: or Matt Barkley or anybody else couldn't give him as well. 2409 01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:59,520 Speaker 1: But I think one of the things that happens, and 2410 01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:01,360 Speaker 1: I've said to earlier in the show where it listen, 2411 01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:03,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing new under the sun these concepts and is 2412 01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:06,720 Speaker 1: still the same eleven guys in nineteen nineteen that it 2413 01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,800 Speaker 1: was back in the nineteen fifties and sixties and throughout 2414 01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,280 Speaker 1: the history of the game. Um, those eleven guys can 2415 01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:16,720 Speaker 1: only do so many things, and so there's always an answer. 2416 01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,880 Speaker 1: And having a guy who went through a lot of 2417 01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:22,000 Speaker 1: it and also had some insights as to how to 2418 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:25,840 Speaker 1: think about running an offense against a defense, Yeah, Jim 2419 01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:29,400 Speaker 1: would be invaluable in that because running nobody ran the 2420 01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:32,200 Speaker 1: hurry up as well before or since Jim I in 2421 01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:34,680 Speaker 1: my opinion, I mean, he's the best guy ever running 2422 01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,840 Speaker 1: the hurry up and doing it fast and efficient and 2423 01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:42,520 Speaker 1: and getting it done. So Yeah, I'm sure there's no 2424 01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:46,919 Speaker 1: question they've got some you know, some you know ideas 2425 01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:49,839 Speaker 1: about what to get out of Jim and the information 2426 01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:52,120 Speaker 1: he could provide them to help Josh do it better 2427 01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:55,240 Speaker 1: and to be successful in it. There's nobody's there's nobody 2428 01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:58,560 Speaker 1: who was as good as Jim. That whole offense ran fast, 2429 01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:03,360 Speaker 1: and that's where it came from. And so it's would 2430 01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,280 Speaker 1: I would be shocked if that wasn't you know job 2431 01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,400 Speaker 1: or question number one out of Josh mount how do 2432 01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:09,480 Speaker 1: I be successful in the hurry up? On the tweet 2433 01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:11,560 Speaker 1: sheet a tweet from Nick The tweet Sheet brought to 2434 01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,400 Speaker 1: you by Cargan Moving Systems, the official movers of the 2435 01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:17,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Nick tweets in Kelly's best input would have 2436 01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:20,480 Speaker 1: to be exs and os watching film and comparing what 2437 01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:24,320 Speaker 1: each other sees, explaining options and decision making. In my opinion, 2438 01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:27,480 Speaker 1: prices going to be a very exciting season. And Ron 2439 01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:30,480 Speaker 1: Coursero tweets this, and jim strength not only lies in 2440 01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:32,520 Speaker 1: his on the field knowledge, but off the field and 2441 01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,720 Speaker 1: what it takes to building team chemistry. I agree with 2442 01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,080 Speaker 1: both of those, Yeah, I agree with both of them. Yeah. 2443 01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,840 Speaker 1: And then then there's also the you know, there's further 2444 01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:44,640 Speaker 1: down Matthew Rule says, and we've gotten a little bit 2445 01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:47,160 Speaker 1: of this and listen. It's true. And I can see 2446 01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:50,520 Speaker 1: the point that Matt Rules. Matthew Rule says Kelly can 2447 01:59:50,520 --> 01:59:53,000 Speaker 1: stay away from him. He already has Brian Dable, Ken Dorsey, 2448 01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:55,400 Speaker 1: Sean McDermot, Matt Barkley, Jordan Palmer in his ear. The 2449 01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:56,840 Speaker 1: last thing he needs the pressure of a Hall of 2450 01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,720 Speaker 1: famer Buffalo Bill telling him how he used to do 2451 01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:01,800 Speaker 1: things in the good old days. And obviously Jim's not 2452 02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:03,480 Speaker 1: there to tell him how it was in the old days. 2453 02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:05,720 Speaker 1: He's there to help him be as best good as 2454 02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:07,480 Speaker 1: he can be. So if he can help, he should help. 2455 02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:09,640 Speaker 1: But if he's just one more voice that's you know 2456 02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:12,840 Speaker 1: that that Josh doesn't need to hear Jim will hear it. 2457 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean they'll they'll make sure Jim knows a Jim 2458 02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:17,400 Speaker 1: that's enough, we got it, you know kind of thing. 2459 02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,040 Speaker 1: But if he can help, they want him to help. 2460 02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:24,000 Speaker 1: If he's not helping, they're not gonna waste their time 2461 02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:27,480 Speaker 1: with him. So there you go, a break. We're back 2462 02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,560 Speaker 1: with more One bills line from One Bill's Drive on 2463 02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio, Welcome back, One Bills five, Happy to 2464 02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:37,480 Speaker 1: be here with you on this Wednesday afternoon, rain holding 2465 02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:39,160 Speaker 1: out so far to leasy if you got your golf 2466 02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:42,640 Speaker 1: in last night, right Tuesday, Twilight League, one hundred holds 2467 02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:45,960 Speaker 1: of golf on Friday, the long eighteen holds of scramble 2468 02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:49,160 Speaker 1: golf on Monday, and the other golf and last night's 2469 02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:51,840 Speaker 1: nine hole match, and I am an absolute My golf 2470 02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,080 Speaker 1: game as a wreck. You blame the show last year. 2471 02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Remember a couple of times last year when you just 2472 02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:58,440 Speaker 1: started around this time, We're like, you shot like a 2473 02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:02,720 Speaker 1: personal record, right, My golf game was, But listen, my 2474 02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:04,840 Speaker 1: golf game was razors. You never see anybody say this. 2475 02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:07,600 Speaker 1: My golf game was Razor sharp. I was under a 2476 02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:10,880 Speaker 1: two and I was going down. And what happened? It's 2477 02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,920 Speaker 1: I can't play. I'm with you every day. I can't play. 2478 02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,160 Speaker 1: I play when I've got stuff scheduled. You know, I 2479 02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:20,000 Speaker 1: don't just zip out and play four times a week 2480 02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:21,960 Speaker 1: this time of year. It's kind of funny how it 2481 02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:23,880 Speaker 1: took a year to catch up with you though. Work 2482 02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:26,640 Speaker 1: The first couple of times I played, you know, I 2483 02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:28,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'll be able to maintain. I'll be 2484 02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:32,480 Speaker 1: no more that that one hundred holes of golf push 2485 02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:38,040 Speaker 1: you over the edge, that completely completely blew up my mojo. 2486 02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah I am. I'm totally totally a shell of my 2487 02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:44,200 Speaker 1: former self as a golfer. We got a couple of 2488 02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:46,360 Speaker 1: short segments to come here in the final half hour 2489 02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:48,040 Speaker 1: of the show, and we want your input. We're talking 2490 02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:50,240 Speaker 1: about Jim Kelly never Maybe we'll get him out tomorrow. 2491 02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:52,640 Speaker 1: High he's obviously busy. I'm john you. If I were 2492 02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:55,560 Speaker 1: him after his weekend, i'd be chilling today. I wouldn't 2493 02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:58,880 Speaker 1: be on. Yeah, he was gonna he'd set it up. 2494 02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:00,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna come on like a one thirty or so 2495 02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:04,080 Speaker 1: and something came up, He's he'll call. What he'll do 2496 02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:06,760 Speaker 1: is he'll text me or call me later today and say, hey, bro, sorry, 2497 02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:11,160 Speaker 1: it's this act. He might if he calls me, he'll 2498 02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:14,240 Speaker 1: say it. But anyway, and he'll And so maybe you 2499 02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:16,800 Speaker 1: heard that I called him a jackass, right, I probably 2500 02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:18,760 Speaker 1: turned it. You probably that probably did it. That guy 2501 02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:20,560 Speaker 1: just called me a jackass. Yeah, yeah, sure, I'll be 2502 02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:24,000 Speaker 1: on your radio show. He said. Let's clarify. He said 2503 02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:26,840 Speaker 1: he was formerly a jackass. You said in previous I 2504 02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,240 Speaker 1: asked you if you remembered what a jackass he used 2505 02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:30,960 Speaker 1: to be back in the eighties and I did not 2506 02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,000 Speaker 1: confirmed that because I knew that you were going down 2507 02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:34,880 Speaker 1: to you didn't confirm it verbally, but you were not 2508 02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:38,200 Speaker 1: in your head. Um. But believe me, I've called him 2509 02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:40,480 Speaker 1: worse than that. Why don't you text him? Say, hey, jackass, 2510 02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:43,240 Speaker 1: where you come on the show tomorrow? See if that's 2511 02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:46,920 Speaker 1: the let me see? Just try it. You think I 2512 02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:51,040 Speaker 1: won't do it? Sorry? So how did Jim Kelly help 2513 02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen the most? That's been our topic all day. 2514 02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:56,040 Speaker 1: From the tweet sheet brought to you by Cargan Moving Systems, 2515 02:02:56,640 --> 02:03:01,680 Speaker 1: um Lando Calrissian tweets him. Jim is showing him what 2516 02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:03,320 Speaker 1: to look for and the best way to attack it. 2517 02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:06,680 Speaker 1: The best way to learn is to the best way 2518 02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:09,240 Speaker 1: for him to learn to get better and win anyone 2519 02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:13,440 Speaker 1: left a buffalo that doesn't believe in him, oh to 2520 02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:16,080 Speaker 1: win over anyway. I think he's trying to say, oh, yeah, okay, 2521 02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:20,040 Speaker 1: you gotta Can you proof read your tweets before you do? 2522 02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:23,000 Speaker 1: You proof read your tweets by try? Yeah, we should 2523 02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:26,440 Speaker 1: hire another couple of people, all right, I Kelly Tough. 2524 02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:31,760 Speaker 1: I picked this is from uh PO Puncho Power Forever 2525 02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:33,640 Speaker 1: or Kelly Tough one of the I picked to other. 2526 02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:36,360 Speaker 1: There should have been an all of the above option, 2527 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,760 Speaker 1: because that's what I believe. He said. Jim Kelly can 2528 02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,760 Speaker 1: help him be a leader, be a better um XS, 2529 02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:44,040 Speaker 1: and those guy be a better face of the franchise. 2530 02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Jim's had experience in all of it, no question. Um, 2531 02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:48,520 Speaker 1: this next tweet is interesting? You want to read it? 2532 02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:50,880 Speaker 1: Or do you want me to? No cool nickname? Yeah, 2533 02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:53,280 Speaker 1: I like that. I'll do it here. We go help 2534 02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:55,240 Speaker 1: him by leave him in him alone. The last thing 2535 02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:57,440 Speaker 1: the kid needs is another voice in his head offering 2536 02:03:57,480 --> 02:03:59,800 Speaker 1: advice and opinions. He needs to listen to his OC 2537 02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:02,480 Speaker 1: in his QB coach. That's where his help will and 2538 02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:06,520 Speaker 1: should come from. If Josh wants Jim's helps, he'll ask, 2539 02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,680 Speaker 1: But no unsolicited advice. Believe me, you don't get into 2540 02:04:09,720 --> 02:04:13,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback meeting unsolicited. Yeah. So, I mean they're asking 2541 02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:15,720 Speaker 1: for him and they want a good relationship with him, 2542 02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:18,160 Speaker 1: and he as McDermott said, where is it the quote 2543 02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:22,560 Speaker 1: he said, we'd be Um, we'd be foolish. It'd be 2544 02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:24,560 Speaker 1: ignorant of us not to have a relationship with Jim 2545 02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:27,680 Speaker 1: and ask him what he thinks. And I'm fairly certain 2546 02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:29,520 Speaker 1: that's why it went down here, right. And I'm also 2547 02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:32,640 Speaker 1: fairly certain that Josh Hellen is. We know how smart 2548 02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:34,320 Speaker 1: he is. He knows who to listen to. He knows 2549 02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:37,120 Speaker 1: what's good advice and where to get his advice, don't you. Oh? Absolutely, 2550 02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:40,040 Speaker 1: And he's and he and Josh as a smart kid. Anyway, 2551 02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:41,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna figure a lot of this out on his own. 2552 02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:46,680 Speaker 1: But here's here's the thing. It is smart for them 2553 02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:49,400 Speaker 1: to reach out to Jim. But here's the thing. Quarterback. 2554 02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:52,520 Speaker 1: We all know. Quarterback is the spot on the football 2555 02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:55,160 Speaker 1: team you got to be right at. And when I 2556 02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:57,680 Speaker 1: when I did games for CBS, and I've and I 2557 02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:00,360 Speaker 1: have a lot of friends who happen to play. Steve Line, 2558 02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, I've spoken with. Phil Simms is 2559 02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:07,240 Speaker 1: a friend of mine. These guys who have played quarterback 2560 02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:09,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You talked to him, I've had conversations 2561 02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:12,080 Speaker 1: with Steve Young. You know, all these guys on and 2562 02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:14,240 Speaker 1: some of them were in depth conversations, some of them 2563 02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:17,760 Speaker 1: were just talking about football in general. They see the 2564 02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:22,440 Speaker 1: game differently than everybody else, and the thought processes that 2565 02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,760 Speaker 1: go into making them successful on the field. Off the field, 2566 02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:30,440 Speaker 1: in the meeting room, as leaders, as teammates, as icons, whatever. 2567 02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:33,240 Speaker 1: That thought process is different for these guys than it 2568 02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:36,440 Speaker 1: is anybody else, and it helps to have somebody else. 2569 02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:40,320 Speaker 1: Every quarterback that I've ever spoken to that that had 2570 02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:43,120 Speaker 1: any kind of success will always talk about how another 2571 02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:46,760 Speaker 1: quarterback helped him, either a backup quarterback or a mentor 2572 02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:49,800 Speaker 1: quarterback who was ahead of him, or a quarterback who 2573 02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:54,560 Speaker 1: became a coach. Somebody was there for him that really 2574 02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:57,320 Speaker 1: gave him and handled him the right way. That's how 2575 02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:01,880 Speaker 1: quarterback whisperers get their reputation is by being the guy 2576 02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:04,520 Speaker 1: that knows how to get the most out of that guy. 2577 02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:07,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Jim Kelly's a quarterback whisperer, but 2578 02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:10,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into making these guys right mentally. 2579 02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:13,480 Speaker 1: And that's all we're talking about. Josh. He's got the 2580 02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:17,520 Speaker 1: physical aspects of the quarterback plate. He's got bump truckloads 2581 02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:20,000 Speaker 1: of that stuff. He's got the biggest arm. He can 2582 02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:23,320 Speaker 1: run faster than they quarterback. He can jump guy, he 2583 02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:26,240 Speaker 1: can hurdle guys. He can do all that stuff. But 2584 02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:28,720 Speaker 1: it's all about what's between his ears and getting him 2585 02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:31,920 Speaker 1: the right way and communicating the right way is what 2586 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:34,080 Speaker 1: makes the difference. Back with Bring a Moment, One goes 2587 02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:42,840 Speaker 1: live from One Goes Drive on Buffalo Bill's radio. One 2588 02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:45,200 Speaker 1: goes live from one Bill's driver talking about Jim Kelly 2589 02:06:45,280 --> 02:06:47,400 Speaker 1: what he might be able to do for Josh Allen. 2590 02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Mike on the line from South Carolina. Hello, Mike, Where 2591 02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:54,680 Speaker 1: are you in South Carolina? Mike? Actually? Where I'm in Greenville, 2592 02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:58,240 Speaker 1: close to where the Panthers trained. Well, yeah, and the 2593 02:06:58,280 --> 02:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Bills are gonna be there, you know that, right? They 2594 02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:02,200 Speaker 1: get the joint practice coming up at Wofford College that's 2595 02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:05,600 Speaker 1: in Spartanburg, I think, right, yeah, Yeah, it's in Spartanburg, 2596 02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:08,200 Speaker 1: about thirty minutes away. So we got a good Bill 2597 02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Backer bar in Greenville. You and uh, Steve I need 2598 02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:13,040 Speaker 1: to come up and have a coal pier with we 2599 02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,840 Speaker 1: are in Hey. By the way, I gotta ask you, So, 2600 02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:18,200 Speaker 1: when the Bills come down to Carolina, South Carolina and 2601 02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:21,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna practice with the Panthers for a couple of days, 2602 02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:22,920 Speaker 1: do you think how many Bills fans are gonna Is 2603 02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:24,960 Speaker 1: there gonna be like a contingent of Bills fans or 2604 02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:29,160 Speaker 1: will it just be a smattering or what. No, I've 2605 02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:30,840 Speaker 1: got a strong film. There's gonna be a ton of 2606 02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:34,320 Speaker 1: Bills fans every time Buffalo comes to play the Panthers 2607 02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:37,000 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, could be preseason, regular season game. I 2608 02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:39,680 Speaker 1: mean it is flooded. This area is full of Western 2609 02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,880 Speaker 1: New Yorkers that have relocated. Yeah, they all move when 2610 02:07:42,920 --> 02:07:46,800 Speaker 1: things got rough round here. Right. Also, Hey, one more question. 2611 02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:50,000 Speaker 1: The weather second week of August in Spartanburg, South Carolina. 2612 02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:54,080 Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Nice? Seventy five degrees cool temperatures? No, 2613 02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:58,280 Speaker 1: bring your sunscreen and a towel. Steve, will you? Will you? 2614 02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:02,160 Speaker 1: I might be I might be relegated to as you 2615 02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:05,400 Speaker 1: lay on this ground and trust state this eat exhaustion. Mike, 2616 02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:08,520 Speaker 1: go ahead. What's on your mind? Yeah? Oh, one more 2617 02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:10,800 Speaker 1: thing on the Panthers. Um are thinking to do like 2618 02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:12,920 Speaker 1: a I are think it'll be there for an entire week, 2619 02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:16,040 Speaker 1: like split up at Wofford and then summon Charlotte. I 2620 02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:17,680 Speaker 1: think that I don't know. I haven't seen the schedule. 2621 02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:20,200 Speaker 1: I believe there's a couple of joint practices at Wofford 2622 02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:22,480 Speaker 1: and then you know, they play that Friday night. I 2623 02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:25,160 Speaker 1: think so. The Bills and Panthers will probably go there 2624 02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:27,040 Speaker 1: separate way later in the week, right and get ready 2625 02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:30,160 Speaker 1: for that preseason game number two. That is so probably 2626 02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:32,480 Speaker 1: a couple at least two, maybe two and a half 2627 02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:34,560 Speaker 1: practices at Wafford. Yeah, they'll be they'll be in there. 2628 02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:37,560 Speaker 1: They'll probably either get in Monday or Sunday to have 2629 02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:40,640 Speaker 1: a quick walkthrough or something. They'll have two fold, probably 2630 02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:44,000 Speaker 1: two full days of practices against each other, and then 2631 02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:45,960 Speaker 1: a walk through the third day in the game on 2632 02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:48,480 Speaker 1: the fourth day. So do the math backwards from there, 2633 02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:53,200 Speaker 1: I think, Mike, oh, thank you, you bet. Anyways, you know, 2634 02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:55,720 Speaker 1: just yeah, go ahead, no, no, go ahead, we gotta go, 2635 02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:59,000 Speaker 1: come on, Mike. Oh oh, I'm sorry. Anyways, I don't 2636 02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:01,960 Speaker 1: I really don't think I may be unpopular list. I 2637 02:09:02,080 --> 02:09:04,840 Speaker 1: really don't think Jim Kelly should do anything. I sort 2638 02:09:04,840 --> 02:09:06,960 Speaker 1: of agree with Steve Um. There will be a lot of, 2639 02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:10,839 Speaker 1: you know, too many voices coming from a Gable McDermott, Dorsey, 2640 02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:14,960 Speaker 1: Matt Barkley in the quarterback room. Honestly, I think where 2641 02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Jim's value will be as as a friend. It's well 2642 02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:21,400 Speaker 1: documented everything Jim's been through, you know, four Super Bowl losses, 2643 02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:24,000 Speaker 1: personal things. Um, I think Jim will be there just 2644 02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,440 Speaker 1: to be, you know, a friend that Josh every Hammys 2645 02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:29,200 Speaker 1: has any issues with adversity, Yeah, I don't. I don't 2646 02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:31,160 Speaker 1: give you a roy idea of if I've gave given 2647 02:09:31,160 --> 02:09:33,040 Speaker 1: the listeners an idea that I don't think Jim can help. 2648 02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:34,880 Speaker 1: I do think Jim can help Josh a lot, and 2649 02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:38,360 Speaker 1: I think Josh would be really smart to listen to him. Certainly, 2650 02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:40,880 Speaker 1: there are certain things that Jim's been through in his 2651 02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:43,800 Speaker 1: life that we all know about, battle with cancer, losing 2652 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:48,880 Speaker 1: his son to an illness. Those kind of have made 2653 02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:51,480 Speaker 1: Jim into a different guy than he was when he played. 2654 02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:54,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think there's any question Jim can help 2655 02:09:54,240 --> 02:09:56,760 Speaker 1: him on all the fronts that we've we've suggested, not 2656 02:09:56,920 --> 02:09:59,200 Speaker 1: only as a leader in the locker room, as a 2657 02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:04,040 Speaker 1: good teammate, but also as an x's and o's sounding 2658 02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:06,480 Speaker 1: board as to how a quarterback thinks and how Jim 2659 02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:09,040 Speaker 1: attacked getting ready for the game, and that's all that's 2660 02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:11,720 Speaker 1: what Josh is really relegated to doing. That's what he's 2661 02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:14,320 Speaker 1: all about, his preparation. And the third thing is being 2662 02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:16,280 Speaker 1: the face of a franchise. Jim, in a lot of 2663 02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,480 Speaker 1: ways still is the face of this franchise for a 2664 02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:21,240 Speaker 1: lot of people outside Western New York, so he can 2665 02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:23,480 Speaker 1: speak to Josh on all of those levels. And I 2666 02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:25,920 Speaker 1: think you're right, Mike, it's wrong to think Jim is 2667 02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:27,440 Speaker 1: going to come in there and be brought in as 2668 02:10:27,480 --> 02:10:30,360 Speaker 1: this consultant. Jim's his buddy. I'm Jim wants to be 2669 02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:33,440 Speaker 1: his friend. That's Jim's strength as being your friend. So 2670 02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:35,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the atmosphere we're talking about. He may 2671 02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:37,280 Speaker 1: be in a meeting, but it's not going to be 2672 02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:39,920 Speaker 1: in there as anything above what Josh is. He's in 2673 02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:41,800 Speaker 1: there to help Josh, and that's I think that's the 2674 02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:43,880 Speaker 1: right tone to set. Got squeeze in one more break, 2675 02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:45,960 Speaker 1: We're coming back. One goes live from One Bill's Drive 2676 02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:58,200 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio. So you ask, what are we 2677 02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:01,960 Speaker 1: learned from today's show? Well, it's presented presented by Advanced Alarm, 2678 02:11:02,360 --> 02:11:05,360 Speaker 1: providing Western New York's homes and businesses with the finest 2679 02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:09,160 Speaker 1: and security and home theater. Advanced Alarmed is the preferred 2680 02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:11,840 Speaker 1: alarm and home theater provider all the Buffalo Bills. What 2681 02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:13,839 Speaker 1: do we learn from today show? We had David Sills 2682 02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:16,600 Speaker 1: on the air with this Bill's rooky wide receiver, undrafted 2683 02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:19,160 Speaker 1: free agent from West Virginia, and he talked about why 2684 02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:24,360 Speaker 1: he chose Buffalo as a free agent this past spring. Really, um, 2685 02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, believe what what what coach McDermott was telling me, um, 2686 02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:31,440 Speaker 1: you know on the phone at the end of um 2687 02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, the draft and um, you know, really just 2688 02:11:34,880 --> 02:11:37,880 Speaker 1: bought in. Talked to talk to Coach Hall, the receiver 2689 02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:41,720 Speaker 1: coach at at the Combine, Um you know. And also, um, 2690 02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:43,680 Speaker 1: one of my best friends played here a couple of 2691 02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:47,520 Speaker 1: years ago, to Quill Shortz he was undrafted, um you know, 2692 02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:50,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Um you know, he really told me how 2693 02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:53,080 Speaker 1: how good Coach Hall was and this was, um, you know, 2694 02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a good spot. Um you know, So that 2695 02:11:56,120 --> 02:11:58,360 Speaker 1: that that really had a lot of, um, you know, 2696 02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:01,240 Speaker 1: impact on why I chose Buffalo, you know, and just 2697 02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:04,960 Speaker 1: felt like it was a good place for me to 2698 02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:07,800 Speaker 1: be even seals. We also had to field Yates from ESPN, 2699 02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:10,000 Speaker 1: and he talked about what Jim Kelly might be able 2700 02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:12,040 Speaker 1: to do for quarterback Josh Allen. Here's what he said. 2701 02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:16,280 Speaker 1: One thing I think that Jim Kelly understands more than 2702 02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:20,240 Speaker 1: anybody else ever, is just what it means to the 2703 02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:23,560 Speaker 1: community of Buffalo to be a Buffalo bill and what 2704 02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:25,800 Speaker 1: it means to have success in that market. I think 2705 02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:27,800 Speaker 1: it's really one of the you know, the finest football 2706 02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:31,520 Speaker 1: markets the NFL has. And I don't want to say that, 2707 02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, Lynn doesn't matter everywhere, because it does matter everywhere. 2708 02:12:34,360 --> 02:12:36,560 Speaker 1: But I think that winning in Buffalo means more than 2709 02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:39,680 Speaker 1: it does maybe it's some other community around the NFL, 2710 02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:41,840 Speaker 1: and I think that being able to be a big 2711 02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:45,600 Speaker 1: part of that is really something that can be special 2712 02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:48,600 Speaker 1: and different that Jim Kelly can hopefully impress upon Josh 2713 02:12:48,640 --> 02:12:50,400 Speaker 1: Allen and I don't know who else can do that. 2714 02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:52,800 Speaker 1: Field Yates. Good to have him on the show this. 2715 02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:55,360 Speaker 1: Leonard Smith, we talked to him a couple of minutes ago. 2716 02:12:55,360 --> 02:12:58,080 Speaker 1: Steve good show kind of in spite of ourselves today. Yeah, 2717 02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:01,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Absolutely, it was a good show. 2718 02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:03,440 Speaker 1: Like we barely started the show and here it is 2719 02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:05,600 Speaker 1: now coming. Yeah, it was. It was really good. I 2720 02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:09,840 Speaker 1: enjoyed getting us talk with David Sills of The Fifth Yeah, 2721 02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:13,240 Speaker 1: David Sills, The Fifth got a good show. Tomorrow, Devin Singletary, 2722 02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:16,760 Speaker 1: we'll be here in studio for the first time tomorrow 2723 02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:20,680 Speaker 1: after practice tomorrow. Production assistance from George Blast, Jeff Colt, 2724 02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:23,960 Speaker 1: Nick Thomas, Honald Er, Kelly Rude, j J. Turto, Kevin Cargis, 2725 02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:26,640 Speaker 1: James Robolo producer Jay Harris. See you tomorrow at noon. 2726 02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,280 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's 2727 02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:31,280 Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio