WEBVTT - Leading Off: Is Gavin Williams a Fantasy ACE? (Ep. 1347) 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.680 What's going on everybody. Thank you so much for wrapping 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.120 up your week with us. This here is leading off 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.000 right here on Fantasy Pros. I'm your host, Joe Rico, 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:15.840 going by my dear friend Casey Bubba, and we are 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.599 going to get to all of your baseball related questions, 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.360 talk about some headlines, go through the injury news and notes. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.440 But this will be a show directed by the Peanuts 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.480 and the Cracker Jackson some extent. Because we only had 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.120 five games yesterday, there was a couple of interesting things 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:30.880 we're going to talk about, but please fill up your 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.600 questions in the chat. We've left some dedicated time today 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.360 to help you guys out over the course of your weekend, streaming, 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.199 rest of the season. Questions, trades, waiver wires, anything you 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.720 guys got, please fill it up in the chat. Bubba, 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.520 my friend. It is great to wrap up our weeks 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.160 together again. It's like every year I really look forward 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.239 to our time doing shows together. And it's good to 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:50.440 be in the good days right now. You don't know 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:51.800 you're in the good days until you've left them, but 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:53.160 right now we are in the good days. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.800 Gosh, you're getting older with days, you're starting to sound 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.080 like it now do Rica. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.680 I love it. I love it. You're still young at HARP. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.920 You're young in your activities, but you're getting old at heart. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:04.120 Is what we'll go with on that one. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.600 But yes, it's great to wrap it up on our 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.399 Friday Bummer five games. But like you said, that means 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.039 the voice of the people get to lead the show today, 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.000 which is always a good win in the week. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:15.920 We love our audience here, the Penis and Cracker Jacks, 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.520 the absolute best audience in the industry. We know we 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.080 got some great questions already wrapping up in the chat here, 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.119 so we're gonna get to some headlines and we will 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:24.920 get to the questions in a little bit. But I 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.279 think we need to start off with Gavin Williams. I remember, Bubba, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.039 there was a show we did, one of the final 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.160 shows we did last year. Gavin Williams had a great 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.399 start and we talked about him because last season was 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.400 it was a pretty good year for him, but it 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.240 wasn't to this extent. I know he had a lower 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.400 era last year, but Gavin Williams seems to be on 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.600 a different level this season and he showed it yesterday. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.680 Seven innings, two hits, no walks nowhere and runs eleven 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.320 strikeouts against the Twins. A really tough way to get 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.000 a no decision, but I think his fantasy managers will 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.160 still take it. We're looking at a three seventy eight era, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.760 a one to ten whip, but really the strikeouts are 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.800 the thing for me. This year, he's always been kind 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.960 of mediocre, a little bit above average twenty three to 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.360 twenty four percent. He's up aout thirty percent this year. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.760 He shaved four points off the walk right down to 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.120 seven percent. Is Gavin Williams a fantasy ace because it 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.080 feels like we're pretty close to it. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:15.280 Yeah. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.400 I've always been a tremendous Gavin Williams fan. Like you 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.680 mentioned last year, we were kind of like, Okay, he's close, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.040 He's close, and it always came down to me. It's 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:23.720 like the strikeout of stuff was there, but it's more 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.239 the control of the walks. Losing that four percent in 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.560 walks has allowed him to be more aggressive in the zone. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.519 I feel like he had that immaculate inning yesterday and 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.960 I saw that the pitch grid. Half of the strikes 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.639 in that immaculated anywhere out of the zone because he 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.320 got people to Chase because he was locating early in 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.040 the counts, which is a testament to his development. His 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.720 swinging strike rate has gone up to almost fourteen percent. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.040 That's about a two and a half percent jump from 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.000 last year. So to the continued point, he's just dominating 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.840 the zone. He's forcing the swing and miss. And more importantly, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.839 like I said, no walks leads to this development because 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.920 he's actually giving up more home runs this year, so 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.480 he's he's not afraid to be in the zone. It's 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.080 like the old adage when Scherzer and Verlander were great. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.280 They didn't care about a solo home run, but they 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.480 were gonna blow it by you ten. Gavin Williams, maybe 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.600 we'll still talk. It's three straight games of at least 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.840 I think eleven strikeouts. Like the dude is flago right now. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.800 So yeah, big fan of his. I think guy's the 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.360 limit if he can keep that control in place. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.080 Actually didn't realize, but yeah, three in a row with 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.840 eleven strikeouts. It is his fifth eleven strikeout game of 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.600 the year. And he also has another game with ten, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.040 so he's really racking up the case. And if you 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.240 look at the individual pitches this year, he's getting whiffs 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.480 on all of them, twenty one percent swinging strike rate 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.240 on his sweeper, sixteen percent on the four seamer, thirteen 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.120 on the curve ball, eleven percent on the cutter sinker. 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.080 Not quite as high as seven percent, but when you 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.600 have four offerings that you can get whiffs with, I 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.840 think that's a really, really key part of the success. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.040 I'm obviously a sucker for strikeouts like we all are, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.840 and seeing a thirty percent strikeout rate after years of 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.080 twenty three twenty four to go along with a four 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.520 percent drop in the walk rate, it's strikeout to walk rate, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.360 I think is still my favorite stat to look at, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.200 even with all the fancy ones we have, and he 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.280 went from twelve point eight percent in the strikeout to 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.360 walk rate department to twenty three point four. That is 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.880 one of the biggest jumps of the year. So really 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.360 good stuff from Gavin Williams. On the other side, TODJ. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.680 Bradley also looked really good. Not to the same level, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.360 but seven innings, two hits, three walks, one earned run 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:18.360 and five strikeouts. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:18.560 TODJ. 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.039 Bradley, It's been a little bit of an up and 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.400 down season. There was a period in the middle months 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:24.839 I want to say it was like May June where 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.919 he had a couple of clunkers. But I think this 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.320 is probably the best version of TODG. Bradley that we've 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.440 seen at A three sixty nine era A one twenty 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.840 two whip Again. I talked about the strikeout to walk rate. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.159 He was an eleven percent last year with a dip 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.640 in the k's that we saw. He's backed up to 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.720 seventeen percent this year. I don't think that Todge Bradley 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.080 is necessarily an ace, but I'll always believe in the 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.000 back of my head that there is still even a 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.599 farther level that he can unlock. Bubba, what have you 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.760 thought about him this season? Has he been a set 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.479 it and forget it guy for you? And do you 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.720 think that there is another level he can take moving forward? 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.279 I definitely set it and forget it guy. Another level 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.240 could be tricky because with TODs Bradley, if it comes 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.000 down to home runs and walk similar to Gavin with 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.640 most pitchers in baseball, but it was a really bad 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.839 trend in recent years with Ods Bradley, and he's honed 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.479 that in because, like you said, we saw signs of 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.000 that in Tampa Bay from time to time, and we're 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.160 really getting it now in Minnesota, Like he got a 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.880 whole new lease on life on pitching. Little hiccup mid 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.200 season as you mentioned, but like over the last month 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.200 we're talk going to two eight four e a one 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.320 toh three whip which is great, a twenty percent k 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:26.920 to walk, which we love to see because it's due 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.440 to a thirty percent strikeout rate and then over a 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.320 thirteen percent swinging strike so he's taken advantage of things, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.279 thirty five percent ball rate, so he's not living outside 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.840 the zone very often. All the things you want to 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.760 see from him, and he's can continue to improve as 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.040 the season has gone along, even with that hiccup in 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.120 the middle. So I think he's a set it and 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.240 forget it for now. He's you know, dare I say, 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.440 don't want to take take your boy, but he's kind 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.920 of in that Cavali tier for me, like we see 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.680 what we're doing and you can kind of roll with that. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.560 Yeah, you know, there is the upside for the seven inning, 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.000 eleven strikeout game, and the downside is still two innings, 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.360 eight urn runs like it is for pretty much every pitcher. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:03.920 But you can go fuol Joe Ryan on us. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.479 Yeah, he definitely has the potential to blow up on you. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.680 But I am a taj Bradley fan. I think that 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.760 this season is probably the best we've ever seen from him. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.919 He's stranding more batters than usual he expected. Era is 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.679 the best we've seen, so cautiously optimistic he can continue 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.840 to build on this and eventually give us maybe a 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.680 fantasy a season in the future at some point. But 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.279 I do want to talk about Chris Sale because we 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:28.839 were talking on stream yesterday and there was a couple 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.040 of comments to say, Sales already getting blown up and 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.000 it's looking ugly already, and I was thinking we were 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.760 headed for a rare clunker from Chris Sale. But he 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.640 left it at just three runs. He ended up going 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.880 six innings and struck out eleven batters. So nothing to 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.120 really be that worried about. But the interesting thing with 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.400 Chris Sale this year that I noticed and somebody pointed 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.440 out on Twitter. I wish I knew who it was 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.040 so I could give them credit for it. But Chris 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.760 Sale is throwing harder this season than he's ever thrown before, 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.839 which is a little bit odd in your age thirty 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.039 seven year But if you look at his fastball velocity 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.520 going back to when he was a rookie night ninety four, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.720 ninety three, seven ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, ninety three, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.679 ninety three, this series fastball is over ninety six miles 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.320 an hour for the first time. And it's not just 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.720 the fastball, the four seam rtch to say, the sinker 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.360 is also up in terms of velocity. The slider is up, 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.080 and the changeup is up. And the theory that I 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:19.880 have in my head potential here is that is Chris 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.160 Sale just leaving it all out on the line this year. 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:23.840 He knows in his head this is the last season 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.360 he's going to play. He's planning on retirement, so he's 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.960 just throwing a little bit extra bullets in the tank 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.080 this year. Bubba, does that sound like something that could 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:31.520 be working. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.960 It could be thirty seven years old and throwing ninety 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.320 seven basically is insane to. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:37.880 Think about this. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.040 This is a Nolan Ryan Addville commercial for you old 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.760 folks out there. It's nuts. And the fact that you 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.880 mentioned he boosted it's kind of like how Verlander picked 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.400 up speed towards the end. And obviously it's hit a 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.880 wall now at his age like forty two season or whatever. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.080 But has Siale officially said he's done after this year? 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.480 Because I haven't heard that, but I know he's close. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.880 I get your point, but yeah, it's pretty crazy. 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.280 I don't think he's actually said it. But just like 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.720 reading the tea leaves thirty seven years old, you'd figure, like, 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.640 you know, I've been a de Gram guy for a 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.400 long time. But the thing that de Gram has done 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.559 the last couple of years is he's intentionally not throwing 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.960 as hard as he's capable of to try and keep 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.160 himself healthy. And it feels like maybe the reverse here 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.320 with Sale in his head, if he's like, Okay, this 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:19.960 is it for me, this is my last season. There's 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.680 no need to try and maintain long term health. I'm 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.800 just gonna fire bullets every fifth start. And maybe that's wrong. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.960 That's just a total theory. Could definitely be wrong. But 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.560 it's interesting that after all these years, Chris Sale has 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.560 his highest fastball velocity is at age that. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.160 That is I never noticed that. That is quite an interesting. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.600 This is where you know, I know beat writers have 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.040 a tough job, but this as the fantasy person, I 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.679 love a beat writer to ass like what's behind this, Like, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.920 what's what happened? But I don't know if we're gonna 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.440 get that until maybe after the season. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.240 He does have an extension, I think looking at a 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.280 club twenty twenty seven. So we'll see what happens. We'll 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.800 see what happens. But just something interesting that popped up 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.480 that I thought we'd mentioned. And I also wanted to 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.880 mention Shane Bieber, because Shane Bieber, I mean, it looked 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.400 like he was toast. He took the offer like the 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.680 second he could in the off season, look like, you know, 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:09.680 Blue Jays fans were really excited, but the tea leaves 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.120 were why is he not exploring his options at least 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.760 a little bit here. Looked like he wasn't healthy and 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:16.840 he wasn't missed a good chunk of the season. His 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.000 first few starts back were awful, just dreadful stuff from 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.600 Shane Bieber. The last two really the last three, but 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.240 in particular the starts against the White Sox and yesterday 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.800 against Tampa have been really good. Yesterday he went seven innings, 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.240 three hits, one run, ball with no walks and three strikeouts. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.800 Only three strikeouts is a little bit weird to see 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.800 from Shane Bieber. But my question here to you, Bubba, 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.800 is I think the Blue Jays are going to be 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.400 positioned as sellers. The way that they're going, Shane Bieber 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.160 looks like he will be a trade ship. If you 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.640 were a team, whether it's a real life or fantasy, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.400 and you're looking at what Shane Bieber's done over the 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.680 last couple of starts, would you be trying to acquire 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.640 him or do you think that this is simply just 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.120 a couple of good, lucky starts and he's still maybe 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:57.719 a little bit washed at this point. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.520 I'm still leaning the washed of things, but I've really 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:02.480 never been a Bieber guy. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:03.079 SAT's on me. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.560 But what he's benefited from in these last two starts 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.360 where he's been very good and it's totally fine. It's 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.920 it's the low walk rate, which we've mentioned multiple times 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.760 on this show, but it's also a sixty two percent 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.800 ground ball rate over those two starts when he's been 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.360 in the forty fives most of the season in his career. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:20.920 So he's really taking advantage. He's letting them put it 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.160 in play at limiting the damage. How long can that last? 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.400 Is my question with Shane Bieber because he's Yes, he's 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.080 been very effective over two starts, not going to knock 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.360 that Tampa Bay White Sox two tough offenses, but it's 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:34.880 like he's not striking guys out. So it's a lot 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.199 of balls in play to rely on a ground ball 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.720 and to take advantage of a babbitb situation that I 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.400 don't think I'm ready, Like it's a one to forty 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.160 three babbub yesterday, a two to fourteen babbub in the 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.600 previous start, when he's well over three hundred prior to that. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.120 So what does he regress to is the question, And 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.679 that's something I'd be terrified to figure out. Real life. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.880 Someone's going to trade for him, no doubt about it. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:57.760 He will be a good fourth or fifth Like if 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.000 if I have to watch Adrianauser and Malley pitch every 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.880 fourth and fifth day, Shane Bieber will be on somebody's team. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.480 But for fantasy, I'm still not there. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.680 Yeah, I think I'm with you. I think the Jay 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:13.080 should cash in here. I mean, Shane Bieber last year 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.720 was traded for Cal Stephen, who was of top Blue 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.600 Jays pitching pro not the top, I don't think, but 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.160 one of the top Blue Jay's pitching prospects. And you know, 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.440 we see it every year the deadline. 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Ian 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.679 Seymour was pitching in bulk relief yesterday, and I think 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.480 a couple people that I'd seen were a little bit 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.320 worried after his previous few appearances did not look very good, 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.240 but yesterday got back on track. That's what the Blue 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.600 Jays will do to you. Six innings tour and runs, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.240 one walk and seven strikeouts For the season as a whole, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:29.640 it's a bit a little bit shaky pitching as a 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.480 reliever and as a starter. It's a four to sixty 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.200 four era, but he does have a one to fifteen 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.240 whip and a twenty percent strikeout to walk. Great, Bobby, 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:37.880 I was really hoping that he was going to be 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.600 a starter this year all season long for the Rays, 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.280 and then Steven Mattz and Nick Martinez signings and things 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.679 got complicated. Do you think Ian Seymour, at some point, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.720 whether it's next year in the future, will eventually be 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.680 like I set it and forget it, Fantasy top thirty, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.959 top forty starting pitcher, because I think that the upside 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.600 is there for that. But I'm curious what you think 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:56.520 about him. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:57.880 Yeah, full agree. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.000 It's the Rays doing race things that make it from 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.719 straight in for his fantasy folks. But basically since he's 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.960 joined the rotation or been like the follower multiple basically 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.000 a five inning guy where I'm going with this, it's 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.680 been three year runs or less and all but one 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.080 of those like seven outings, which is very very solid, 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.280 forty five k's to eight walks over thirty five innings 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.520 pitch and all this stuff you mentioned. The skills are great. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.680 What he reminds me of. If the Rays do the 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.960 Rays thing, it's like a Drew Rasmussen thing. They're gonna 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.760 baby him and then all of a sudden they're gonna 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.319 let the leash go or like you know, we look 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.160 at Seymour this way, Griffin Jackson's doing the same thing. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.280 They got him limited to like eighty pitches to start, 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:34.560 and he's been great through five. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.360 So it's just what the Rays do. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.760 I think he can be a top thirty or forty 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.760 pitcher if they let him go the Rasmussen route, where 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.560 now Rasmus can go six or seven innings, if they 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.000 do that next year or seem more than Yes, I 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.079 fully agree with you I. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.040 Think the potential's there, and the samurai is laughing in 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.240 the chat, but I mean the strikeout to walk rates, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.360 the expected stats are really good. It's a good ballpark 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:55.840 to pitch, although it hasn't been as good of a 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.640 ballpark to pitch in this year as years past suggest. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.520 I wonder if there's been some changes to the trop 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.560 or if it's just small sample size stuff with the 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.360 park factors. But I'm a believer in Ian Seymour. I 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.120 really am. He gets chases, he doesn't allow a lot 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.000 of contact, he has a good swinging strike rate. The 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.200 stuff grades out really well, deep deep arsenal like, there's 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.360 a lot to really like with Ian Seymour. If people 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.800 don't want to invest in him next year more for me, 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.760 no problem at all. I want to talk about George Springer, 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.960 and you know I will talk about Blue Jay's probably 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.760 more regularly than the average person. But assuming I'm a 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.960 blue Jay fan and George Springer has been really good recently, 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:31.960 I mean I'm a blue Jay fan, not so much 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.120 this year anymore. I've kind of given up. But George Springer, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.560 just looking over the last couple of months, has been 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.600 really good. And I think most people have kind of 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.040 written off George Springer. But since June fifth, one hundred 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.240 and twenty played appearances, he's hitting two fifty two with 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.920 a seven to seventy one ops a one to seventeen 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.160 WRC plus. He has five homers, four stolen bases, with 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.920 an eleven percent walk rate and a nineteen percent strikeout rate. 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.520 So the season long numbers are still not good for 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.520 George Springer, but he's got the WRC plus back up 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.960 to a round average, and it looks like there might 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.880 still be something left in the tank here, baba, Any 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.800 chance for you, whether it's maybe a super shallow league 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.880 where somebody has already moved on, or if it's even 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.400 a deeper format, would you be looking to trade for 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.800 George Springer off of this recent good stretch he's had, 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.720 or do you think this is just a bit of 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.360 a dead cat bounce that we've seen from him over 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:19.480 the last couple of months. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:20.560 It's very tough. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.040 I've kind of written Springer off, like the last week's 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.080 been great, hitting three sixty four homer and his steal 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.520 things you love to see. But then you dig deeper 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.640 and it's like last month, it's been two thirty four 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.520 or two homers and that one steal steal. So basically 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.760 outside of this one week, he's got one home run 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.640 and one more RBI, he's got a solo shot in 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.360 the previous three weeks. And that's what I'm looking at here. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.000 He's getting old, obviously, and I can say that as 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.720 the old on this show, but it's a deep league 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.520 goal only for me. When I look at George Springer, 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:51.880 I'm thinking he's still hurt because when he came back 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.720 from that foot injury or toe injury, and then he 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.360 fouled the ball off of it right away, and he's 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.680 pretty much primarily the DH and he can't play the 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.680 outfield very often, so I think he's still hurt and 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.800 he hitting the ball on the ground a ton deeply 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.800 go only for me, I'm I'm going to give you 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.240 the non Jays fan answer to that. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.000 I think you're probably right. I needed some cold water. 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.360 I needed, you know, bring me back. 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.280 We all like Springer, don't get me wrong, and he 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.800 did so much for you guys last year. It'd be 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:20.160 hard for you to give up on him. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:20.640 I get it. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.680 But yes, well, what I think they should probably do 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.640 is at at least look into trading him and maybe 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.040